/tes/ - The Elder Scrolls Discussion

>>7003

>>6970

>"It's up to you to determine who you will be."

>Morrowind:

>streamlined into being the Nerevarine

>Oblivion:

>streamlined into being the hero of Kvatch

>Skyrim:

>streamlined into being the Dragonborn

>play Skyrim, main character a Dragonborn, get bored did everything on the entire map

>decide I want new characters of different races

>Alternate start mod:

>randomly visit Helgen for the rebuilding of Helgen

>begin the whole main quest be the dragonborn again

>quest markers everywhere, any casual can follow them

Does Bethesda think we're just poor saps who can't deal with rootless wandering ourselves? I mean, sometimes I like to branch out and explore the world on my own. I turn the markers off completely and find my own way, but sometimes I get board. As for streamlining us into everything, nothing in these games stumps me. I wood have expected to hone maybe some slight problem solving abilities. That makes me fir ious. Well, I'm a little trunk so I'll leaf now.

>>7228

I don't play skyrim or oblivion with a compass. I don't like being dragged along HOWEVER I like having a quest marker on the map. I like knowing where i'm supposed to go but I prefer getting there on my own.

>>7233

I'm much different with that. See, I've lived in the location I'm at for ten years and I can't even figure my way around 5 miles or more down the road. But I've had Skyrim since it came out in 2011, and I like to just look at the quest description. Well, I used to. Now I just know where everything is. Was the same with Oblivion. Not bragging. I'm just lifeless. Read this in a Khajiit voice, it's more immersive

>>7234

I swear it drives me fucking crazy when people keep saying immersive in their damn mod descriptions

>immersive camera

>immersive sheaths

>immersive dragons

>immersive shit

>immersive piss

>immersive trees

>immersive air

>immersive cocks

>immersive potatoes

>immersive horse genitals

I treat the word like hyper realistic blood in creepy pastas, a pretty good warning sign. And like hyper realistic blood there are very,very few mods that can accurately use the immersive title and work.

>>7236

To be fair, lore nerds are hard on immersion. I would rather be able to kill the daedric princes and turn Skyrim into believable realism. Without any magic, undead, dragons, vampires, etc. There is only one mod I have among 233 that says "immersive". It's Immersive Wenches. I used to have Immersive Lovers Comfort (ragdoll kissing), but that shit just randomly stopped working after it pissed me off asking to kiss every damn npc I talked to. As far as immersive mods go, here's the list in my Immersion category:

Babettes Feast

Bathing in Skyrim

Campfire

Enhanced Lights and FX

Follower Commentary Overhaul

Hunter and Ranger Crafting

iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep

Interactive Wash Basins

Realistic Wildlife Loot

Simple Actions (sleep on the ground)

Skyrim Enhanced Camera (sometimes my girl character has to make sure her tits are still there)

I do have immersive shit and piss. Private Needs. Where would all the food, drink and potions go? Just back up in your character's intestine until they die painfully?