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Seen any elves? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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 No.9773

>Make a new character on Skyrim

>Doing Dawnguard

>Decide to go with the vampire side this time, because in previous playthroughs, I only joined the Dawnguard

>Everyone in Castle Volkihar is an utter unlikeable cunt or edgy fetcher

>Hestla insulted my bros, the Companions

>Fura Bloodmouth has an annoying voice and every time she talks, I want to punch her

>The death hounds are ugly and I liked the Dawnguard huskies better

>Was playing a character that uses archery and I missed out on the enhanced dwarven crossbow

>Felt bad killing my Dawnbros, especially Durak and Gunmar

>Only decent character is Serana and she still follows you if you join the Dawnguard anyway.

>Vampire lord upgrades weren't even that great IMO. Apparently there are mods to make it better, but I have yet to install those.

Well, never joining the Volkihars again. At least with the Civil War, I was able to entertain the ideas of both sides when I played through them on different playthroughs, but here there's no grey area. Guess I should've seen that coming since they're vampires and all.

I was hoping that maybe they would be decent people and the Dawnguard might be a little intolerant towards them, but no, they're scum and the Dawnguard rightfully wants them exterminated.

Sure, the Volkihars make you lord of the castle, but honestly, not being the leader of the Dawnguard after their questline was a nice break from being the leader of every guild and the Thane of every hold. It's the reason why shit like the Archmage Tolfdir mod exists and is so damn popular.

Maybe I'm a minority in this, but the idea of being a vampire hunter always appealed to me more than being a vampire, reason I love shit like Castlevania, Blade, Boktai(Kudos to anyone who played it), and the Witcher(Monster slayer in general, but vampires are included).

 No.9774

The only redeemable thing about the Volkihar is the ring of the erudite.


 No.9775

The Volkihar clan was awful. Shit base, shit NPCs, shit backstory, shit exclusive equipment and the vampire lord ability is clunky and useless beyond level 30. Dawnguard all the way.


 No.9776

>>9773

nice blog

I'm joking of course, but what was the purpose of starting this as a thread - are we supposed to discuss vampires in the Elder Scrolls in general, or the general flaws in the Dawnguard dlc or something else entirely?

I've nothing really to add to your post, I can't imagine anyone chosing the Volkihar clan over the dawnguard, other than "to see what it's like" for a sense of completeness, or if they are a truly insufferable edge-lord that wants to draw their own Serana / vampire rule 34 and make vampire tribute videos with Linkin Park soundtracks.

It seems Bethesda knows their hip new teenage demographic quite well


 No.9778

>>9776

>It seems Bethesda knows their hip new teenage demographic quite well

Not quite, Twillight came out in 2008.

And the reason for joining the vampires is not feeling ok being a Vampire Lord in a guild whose only purpose is to hunt fucking vampires.

That said, in response to the OP, yeah, everybody is a complete utter fag in the castle. Even fucking Serana, who is constantly shoved down your throat, is a PMSing boring bitch.

And honestly, I thought the Vampire's Vader Grip was OP and fun as shit.

Also I'd like to say that Dawnguards had no personality either. They hunt vampires, I guess. Other than that they were boring as fuck. At least the fags in the castle we're hating on each other and there was some unease betwen them too.


 No.9780

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Morrowind Vampirism was superior in every way.

> more bonuses/equal disadvantages besides weakness to fire

> everyone hates you (with good reason, youre an abomination raped by a Daedric Prince)

>multiple factions with hidden lairs you need to find on your own

Vampirism was a challenge. Also it didn't cost 20 extra dollars.


 No.9782

>>9780

to be tbhonest, being a vampire shouldn't be so obvious that everybody attacks you on sight, even when you have a helmet on, goddamn.


 No.9786

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>>9780

>Wanting challenging games

See you during recess, Dreamboy. Hope you got my lunch AND my money.


 No.9796

>>9782

There is no reason you should have been able to walk around in Skyrim with your creepy demon-eyes and not get attacked on sight. That was such a stupid add-on.


 No.9819

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>>9780

> everyone hates you (with good reason, youre an abomination raped by a Daedric Prince)

Nigga fucking Vivec was raped by a Daedric prince, people don't hate him

>Vampirism was a challenge. Also it didn't cost 20 extra dollars.

Yes it did, Tribunal was like $15 when it came out, which accounting for inflation is not far off from the $20 mark.


 No.9822

>>9819

it's not rape if you want it. did you see what he was wearing? he was asking for it.


 No.9834

>>9773

>Serana

>decent

>>9776

>>9778

Twilight? I always thought it borrowed more from Underworld and Van Helsing. Pairing crossbows with vampire hunting definitely reminds me of Van Helsing, and Serana strikes me as a bad knockoff of Selene from Underworld (leather outfit, necklength black hair, infatuation with mortal enemies). Plus Hestla hates companions because muh werewolf-vampire rivalry.


 No.9835

>>9834

I'm >>9776 btw

I never said twilight - that was someone else, in any case I don't think the Twilight demographic listens to linkin park. That said I'm old so I'm not really down with the kids so I could be wrong.

The Van Helsing point it pretty valid though - the crossbows, and the whole bit about "this is the original vampire lineage from the dawn of their dynasty" living in a massive old school castle. Though equally, big castles and pseudo-mythical ancient backstories are kind of the standard for Vampire plots in general.

I stand by what I said about the only people that like the vampire clan being insufferable edge-lords.

Final thought - presumably the Vigilants of Stendarr also hate Werewolves, its a shame that their relationship with the companions and or the silver hands was never even hinted at let alone explored in the games… They could really have had some interesting back stories and rivalries with this…


 No.9837

>>9822

All dunmer are sluts, he got what he deserved.


 No.9855

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>>9837

>Vivec

>dunmer

Pick one.


 No.9858

>>9855

Can I pick one and a half?

>>9834

im >>9778 and what I meant by that is that Twillight, True Blood and whatever else is what brought vampirism back in pop culture, to the point where people thought they were actually supposed to sparkle


 No.9918

>>9855

Even if you do not see him as a Dunmer, hes still a whore. [spoiler] And all dunmer are to.


 No.9921

>Vampires

>not Scum

The whole Idea of playing a vampire is to play a scumbag. It's called roleplaying.


 No.9926

>>9819

The difference was that Vivec wasn't a vampire. Also, I meant it wasn't 20 dollars EXTRA. As in Dawnguard was 20 dollars more, while early 2000s Bethesda decided to add a functioning and worthwhile vampire system within the vanilla game.


 No.9935

>>9926

>vanilla skyrim doesn't have vampirism

It does, it just sucks, and it still sucks in the DLC.


 No.10040

>>9780

Even Oblivion's was better, considering it had actual drawbacks.

>Oblivion vampire

>sun fucking burns you to death

>Skyrim vampire

>you kind of sparkle and lose your magic health regen and can't restore stamina boo hoo


 No.10056

>>9926

>worthwile

Seeing how the game only lets you do 2 questlines while you're a vampire, I wouldn't call it exactly "worthwile". You can also quite easily fuck your whole playthrough up if you're not paying attention.


 No.10692

>>10056

>You can also quite easily fuck your whole playthrough up if you're not paying attention.

Elaborate?


 No.10728

I actually wish the Volkihars were more evil. Bethesda's presentation was really pretty boring and typical. Something I could have easily come up with when I was in middle school. They just act like snooty cunts instead of genuine inhuman, manipulative monsters. The writing team should really take some pointers from Bloodlines.

Serana in particular annoys the hell out of me. Why the fuck does a centuries old vampire act like a college girl? She has basically no malice or predatory instinct at all.

If I remember right there's also a book in skyrim that describes the Volkihar as savages that live under the ice, ocasionally pulling a human through without breaking it. I guess Bethesda decided the castelvania aesthetic was more marketable though.


 No.10742

>>9773

>Serana

Did somebody say

MARY SUE?


 No.10743

>>10742

the waifubait and daddy issues were incredibly obvious, but fetchers actually fell for it

Frea is also a DLC-added female invincible follower but she's not a piece of shit so nobody drools over her


 No.10744

>>10692

yeah what the fuck is that dude babbling about. you can't fuck up anything in skyrim, it's notorious for being a dull, idiot proof safety-first playpen for retards.


 No.10747

>>10744

He's not talking about Skyrim, dipshit.


 No.10748

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>>10747

f-fair enough


 No.10752

>>10692

Being attacked by an essential because he magically sensed you're a vampire, thus fucking your whole playthrough.

I'm totally for killable essentials, just not my best pal Caius attacking me on sight because I smell funny.


 No.10753

>>10752

Probably looked into your soulless eyes and realized you were a bugchasing bloodsucking faggot.

INB4 I WAS WEARING FULL HELM

Implying anyone trusts people in those to not be vampires, implying you weren't at a loss to stop him from finding out, you dumb fuck.


 No.10756

>Be you

>Boot up Dawnguard DLC in a world where Bethesda does things properlyç

>there's an alternate route to joining the Volkihar which doesn't require going through the Dawnguard, because it's specially stupid that if you're already a vampire, you'd show up at the HQ of the Anti-Vampire KKK.

>Dawnguard Weapons are made out of fucking SILVER, because it's canon that SILVER does TWICE AS MUCH DAMAGE to undead creatures.

>the Mace "light of Day" from Morrowind Makes a comeback.

>Hammers are stupid weapons to kill vampires with, my man Isran has a very fast runed danwguard claymore sword.

>Volkihar Vampires have a hard-on for ice magick

>they have a unique minor power that looks like the afflicted's vomit-spewing attack but it's actually a frostbite spell that does less HP damage but much more Stamina damage.

>Volkihar vampires ambush the player by leaping out of piles of snow and blocks of ice, much like how rieklings do.

>Their armor is insipired by Soul Reaver instead of Castlevania, so they are an aesthetic pairing with the armor that appears on their Vampire lord form.

>Volkihar Castle is hidden inside a glacier, and through a grotto, sort of like how the Sky Haven temple is. It's also surrounded by shipwrecks with the skeletons of ships hulls poking out of the water, maybe some whale bones here and there too.

>Volkihar Vampires can summon Barnacle-crusted, seaweed-draped, scurvy-having Pirate skeletons with actual cutlasses.

>Blood Magick in Vampire Lord form isn't a glowing red orb like an illusion spell. it's an actual orb textured like blood and can do shit like make people's heads explode and whatnot.

>Serana isn't the chick from Underworld, instead she's a demure lady-in-the-wateresque character who is encased in a magical block of ice and not a stone coffin, She has long wavy hair the color of dark seaweed.

>Instead of being a spoiled brat, she acts like a proper modest lady with a killer streak.

>Serana Can Kill Valerica in a Vampire lord Battle.

>When you get to icewater jetty, you have to use a lamp or a bell or something to summon a forlorn boatman (a Draugr in a black robe) who emerges from the bubbling water and takes you to the grotto (vampires cannot drown)

Just from of the top of my head…


 No.10758

>>10756

Bethesda,hire this guy


 No.10763

>>10756

I'm pretty easily satisfied. Like, if you give me a winged bat-monster to play with, I expect to be able to fly. That's not an unreasonable request, right? Just that tidbit of common sense would have made vampires worth it.




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