No.170983
>No EDH thread
Come on guys
>PLAYAN
>BREWAN
>HATIN
And because we need a topic
>Who's the best mono-black general?
No.171173
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Arcum Dagsson
Phage, the Untouchable
>BREWAN
I don't need anything else
>HATIN
Artifact hate
>Who's the best mono-black general?
Phage, hands down, she guarantees you'll end the game in a flash with cabal coffers, Urborg Tomb of Yawgmoth, and all the rituals.
No.171178
>PLAYAN?
Chainer, Marchesa, Nath Elves, Rafiq, Sydri, Triad of Fates.
>BREWAN?
Animar, Ojutai, Anafenza
>HATIN?
Narset, Tasigur, Riku, Purphuros, the usual suspects.
>Best mono-black general?
Chainer mah nigga
No.171190
>>171173
Phage is shit without torpor orb, no wonder you don't like artifact hate. There are so many better commanders it's not even funny
No.171205
>>170983
>PLAYAN
The things you all love to hate.
>BREWAN
You'll get a notion of it.
>HATIN
Boring infinite combo.
If your gonna go nuclear, everybody should know. AND TREMBLE.
>>171173
HA
HA
HAHAHA
No.171210
>>171190
Have you ever played against Arcum?
You have to kill him.
No.171281
>>171210
Arcum's great, but I was talking about how shit phage is
No.171347
>>170983
>>PLAYAN
R/B "fuck everyone in the boardhole" deck, Mogis general. Every card is indiscriminate in its fuckitude, every removal spell is global. Sulfuric Vortex, Furnace of Rath, etc.
>>BREWAN
A deck completely immune to strategy of any kind; right now i have Mayael for that, and just toss creatures as people until one of us loses, but it'd be fun to have something like a mono-G deck that has lots of enchantment destruction - lots of my friends have decks that make little forts out of like 20 enchantments - and yell at everyone that there's no fancy wizard shit allowed.
>>HATIN
WotC, their fucking faggoty planeswalkers, and the day they make even more ones that can be commanders. It'll fucking happen I swear.
>>Who's the best mono-black general?
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade. Come at me.
No.171375
>>PLAYAN
only the best
also a sightly tweaked derevi deck
>>BREWAN
Slivers
>>HATIN
disGUsting decks
>>Who's the best mono black general?
Skittles, obviously
No.171388
>>170983
>he doesn't play the best whitefu commander
No.171395
>>171205
>overlord
le_clone_faec.bmp
I'd use the hivelord
No.171397
>>171395
>implying clones beat overlord
just fetch the shroud sliver nigga
hivelord is shit
No.171406
>PLAYAN
Mayael
>BREWAN
I really want to play Horde of Notions, but that mana base is killer, so it'll probably never happen.
Right now, I'm considering Marchesa, Tariel, or Shattergang Bros., but I can't decide which one.
>HATIN
UGx, same as everyone else who doesn't play UGx.
>Who's the best mono-black general?
Haakon or nothing.
Or Skithiryx.
No.171408
>>171397
The thing is, I'd like to play my commander on curve
No.171412
>>171408
if you play it on curve then they can't clone + take control in response unless they've ramped harder than you.
most clones have 4cmc
No.171413
>>171406
Marchesa is great, Tariel is pretty shit, and Bros are okay, but there are better options in Jund.
>>171408
Overlord and Hivelord are the same cmc
No.171420
>>171412
>mfw I'm retarded and didn't realize that
It's just that I got owned in my first ever commander match exactly that way and I gave up on the overlord for good, it was that traumatizing
>>171413
One steals itself, the other doesn't
No.171428
>>171420
Counterpoint - One fetches what you need, including the other, the other doesn't.
No.171441
>>171428
I've found it makes my opponents shit themselves in fear just as well, indestructibility is really annoying
No.171443
>>171428
>>171441
Plus, you can abuse wraths with impunity that way.
No.171447
>>171441
>play overlord
>fetch hivelord
>now you're indestructible
>>171443
if you're going to shit boardwipes left and right, you're better off playing Zurgo. Besides, if they exile / bounce your Hivelord in response to a boardwipe while you have a strong board, you're shit out of luck.
No.171451
>>171447
A strong board implies either the shroud or the waifu, or both
No.171457
>>171395
>Play boots
>Put bootys on Overlord
>Get Amoeboid Changeling
>Steal shit
>Straight profit.
https://youtu.be/vl_aWoPNpJM?t=2m48s
No.171461
Playing
>Teferi "the stack is my bitch" of Zahlfir
The deck is an unfun, counterspell riddled combo machine that doesn't let you have any say in the game's outcome. This is the deck I play when the dickwads who ruin the fun games show up.
>Teysa, Orzhov Scion
Wave after wave of black tokens that my general turns into white tokens to do stuff with. The fun deck.
Brewing
>Good, Bandit Warlord
Another fun deck, it wins by playing a shitload of artifact mana ramp to play lots of equipment and dropping Bludgeon Brawl to turn my mana into more equipment and turning 1/1 tokens into [big/big] flying, trampling, life linking, first striking, provoking, hasted, protection fromX monsters.
Hating
Everyone who thinks "we play casual fun decks" means "prey-filled environment".
No.171488
Is Oros a viable general for WBR goodstuff? I want to build WBR, but Kaalia's pricetag is ridiculous, and the rest of the choices are just "meh".
No.171509
>>171488
It really depends on what you want to do with it. If you're just looking for colors, then there's no reason not to.
No.171546
What kind of EDH deck should I build around this guy?
No.171562
>>171546
Well, blue black has deep pockets if you want to do control. Just doing a solid counter/kill/boardwipe deck with lots of draw spells works well, since Silumgar can be your "one threat" to win with.
My personal suggestion is to add things like Viridian Longbow/Thornbite Staff to capitalize on his Deathtouch. You can also build around his control magic ability by running blink effects and sacrifice outlets.
No.171655
>>171562
>Thornbite Staff/Viridian Longbow
n00b question because I'm Bad at Magic: I can abuse this repeatedly with a shitload of tokens and something like Nantuko Husk?
No.171690
>>171655
Yes, but deathtouch can also create a machine gun just fine
No.171705
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>>171690
Misread the Staff as "creatures under your control" because I'm not Bad at Magic, I'm just plain retarded.
But really, pic related.
No.171711
>PLAYAN
Roon and Alesha
>BREWAN
Gonna try and make a Vela deck at some point. Gonna wait to see if there's any good cards in this years commander deck before I do though
>HATIN
Topor Orb
>Best B General
Even though he's bad I love Umezawa's removal Tribal theme
>super sekrit deck tech
Shriveling Rot + Crypt Rats
No.171777
>>171705
Nantuko husk isn't a bad Idea, though. You'll want a way to get rid of the thing you stole with Silumgar in case he gets hit.
Although, adding an infinite resurrection loop to the U/B deck might be cool.
No.172109
>playing whenever my playgroup gets back together
Horde of notions with a 50$ pile of elementals and some flicker shenanigans. Manabase isn't actually that terrible in the couple mock games i've played. There's some cheap lands you can use like taplands, vivids and bouncelands (neat little combo as well).
**>tfw missed my chance to be the special snowflake horde player.
I've had this deck for months and now you guys choose to post here**
No.172195
>>172109
To be honest, Horde of notions is my most played general.
I have a shitload of them in my binder, and whenever I feel like playing something new, I grab one of those, 64 random cards, 35 basic lands, shuffle up, and play it.
No.172199
>>171173
> phage
> modern-viable
Get out
No.172201
>>172199
>Thinks we're talking about Modern
>Tripfagging
This goes beyond "/tg/ is bad at Magic", this is some next level stupid.
No.172230
>>171347
Kaervek is a much better FUCK YOU commander.
No.172234
>>172230
I wanna do a Kaervek deck so bad but I don't even know where to start
No.172237
>PLAYAN
Talrand and a cobbled together Dromoka deck.
>BREWAN
I'm really at a loss where to go from here, my friends are all scrubs so it's easy to win, but I hate my filthy local card shop. My friends are getting salty and not wanting to play with me now.
Got any ideas for fun, but mildly competitive decks?
>HATIN
There really isn't a deck I hate on right now.
No.172239
No.172241
>>172234
I'm not sure if you would win with it much, but it could turn into a pretty mean group slug deck.
No.172244
>>172201
The joke has flown so far over his head that it's in orbit now.
No.172249
>>172234
Rakdos has a long and storied history of FUCK YOU cards.
Start with value red and black cards and work up from their based on play testing.
No.172285
>>172249
>Havoc Festival
Make sure to combine it with wound reflection
No.172895
What is, in everyone's opinions, the best and the worst commanders to play against?
No.172906
Played against a deck with this guy the other day, was reeeeallly nasty.
>>171173
oh boy heres hoping i get one out of 99 cards to be able to play my commander!
(although tutors do exist I guess, i'd like to see how thats made viable).
Im working on a Brimaz Cats EDH, because I fucking love cats. My friend bought me brimaz for my birthday, along with two cool looking cat soldier token alters, so i feel like I need to. Besides the obvious ones, what are some good cats to include?
No.172910
>>172237
I suggest going through and limiting your card selections. Focus on using uncommons and rares from more recent sets to help ease the power down, while still being competitive. Most of my play group is very casual, and either play with the prebuilt edh decks or the from their card pool of "a fat pack or two a set over the last few blocks"
I used to stomp them to the point where they got real mad, then I started limiting my choice of cards, looking more towards uncommons, a few commons, and some of the interesting but garbage rares, but still throw your favorite bombs in, just not so many.
also, no infinite combos, that shit is just a dick move in general.
No.172912
>>172910
Alternatively, make a group hug deck.
thats the only way they'd agree to play edh with me; only if i used that deck for awhile ;_;
No.172933
>>172912
Who was leading that one?
No.172936
>>172933
Karona, false god or w/e. Its just a 5 color jam packed with group hug / really defensive stuff, and few really strong bombs, and a maze's end with some good amount of land fetching.
No.172938
>>172936
Maze's End is not really my thing, but I guess it's a good way to hamstring yourself in such a situation. And the rest of the deck/Karona himself sounds pretty fun.
No.172998
No.173002
>>172998
Acquire social skills
No.173416
Any ideas on the last two cards I should cut for my Rakdos list?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lookin-like-bernie-sanders/
No.173442
>>173416
>"Lookin' Like Bernie Sanders"
>not "George Soros and the Black Parade"
One job, anon.
I'd cut the Volshok bitch and Read the Boners.
No.173447
>>172906
>Cats
Sorry bro, but wizards wants to shit all over cats whenever it can. Almost of the good ones are either reprinted as "more supported" creature types or aren't mono-white. There are a few cool ones, though.
Jareth, Leonine Titan is a pretty cool bomb, and the protection from colors is pretty sweet. Felidar Sovereign is about to reprinted. Ajani, Caller of the Pride is always fun, and his Pridemate get stupid if you give all of your creatures lifegain.
Brimaz is also a Soldier, which means that in addition to generating tokens (Cathar's Crusade: Whenever Brimaz, King of Oreskos attacks or blocks a creature, place a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control), you also have plenty of tribal options from that as well. Odric, Master Tactician wouldn't be a bad card to think about putting in.
No.173448
>>172906
Waiting in the Weeds was always my favorite cat card. Not the best mechanically but still a fun old school card.
No.173451
>>173448
>Waiting in the Weeds
>Brimaz EDH
No.173458
>>173447
Every time I read Odric's name I chuckle a bit
>Battalion– Whenever Odric, Master Tactician and at least three other creatures attack, creatures you control gain super-banding until the end of combat
Storm scale my ass, lol
No.173460
>>173451
I said it was my favorite cat card not that he should put in. Reading comprehension isn't your thing is it anon?
No.173465
>>173460
>what are some good cats to include?
Either reading comprehension isn't your thing or your opinion is irrelevant to anon's post. Otherwise Phantom Nishoba would have been the first card I listed.
>>173458
Odric is so fun as a commander. Getting three soldiers is easy, and he can eliminate control threats and enemy commanders. The only catch in running him in Brimaz is that anon needs three creatures attacking before Brimaz creates a token.
No.173472
>>173465
> I fucking love cats
>so do I
Therefore me mentioning my favorite cat card was relevant especially considering we almost never discuss this creature type during our mtg threads. You just salty that you couldn't parse a simple sentence.
No.173478
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>>173472
>He's on an EDH thread
>He sees a post asking for cards to put into an EDH deck
>He's mentioning cards
>He's called a retard
>"I didn't mean that card for the deck in the post I replied to in the format this thread is about!"
>He's mad about being called a retard
>This is somehow my problem and fault
No.173480
>>173478
Nice blog post. Desperate to try to avoid the fact that you couldn't understand a simple sentence aren't we?
No.173483
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No.173490
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>>173487
Anon if one greentext is too long for you then fourth grade is really going to be troublesome.
No.173492
>>173490
You misunderstood what I said and then made a smartass post about it. Why you can't just admit that is perplexing but infinitely amusing. Please keep going because I'm having a good time here.
No.173495
>>173492
>I don't have a good reply to somebody calling me a retard for not being able to read two words, but maybe if I suddenly act smug my feelings won't be hurt because somebody insulted me over the internet
No.173497
>>173495
>I'm incapable of admitting that I messed up and my pride forces me to keep doubling down even though I'm only making the other person laugh harder.
Don't stop
No.173500
>>173497
Anon you can post all of the smug faces you want but if you can't read two words ("to include") or piss yourself over then maybe you need to get back to studying. Minors aren't allowed on this site.
No.173506
>>173500
>says I love cat cards
>no doubt wants to discuss them outside of EDH
>I never say put in your deck and in fact say it isn't a good mechanical card
>You are a stubborn goldmine of keks
>mfw you keep going
No.173507
>>173506
>>says I love cat cards
>>no doubt wants to discuss them outside of EDH
>On an EDH thread
Faggot you screwed up because you're autistic and socially starved because the popular kids won't let you sit with them so you sperg on random threads like some beta fuck on a Facebook post where a girl is "nerdy," even if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Admit it and stop embarrassing yourself.
No.173510
Why are you both so salty about cats?
Y'all take this shit so seriously about getting the last word in.
No.173511
>>173507
>gets really upset when someone deviates in the slightest from what he is expecting and comfortable with in a social scenario
>spergs about it endlessly getting more and more upset
>can't grasp he is just being baited at this point
>calls others autistic
Nigga you are adding years to my life here. I wonder how long you will keep replying with even the most cursory of bait? Fair warning, I'm only going to reply with smug anime faces from now on. If you continue then you have no one to blame but yourself.
No.173513
No.173560
>>172906
What do you consider "obvious ones"?
What have you already got in mind?
No.173563
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>>173560
Stuff like Khemba, ajani's pridemate, like the already established good ones that are usually included in white decks as it is. I don't have a deck list going yet, just coming up with ideas. Not really making this deck to be competitive, just making it to be a fun bunch of cats getting together doing cat type things
Also guys if I knew my questioning for cat cards wouldve caused this much pointless arguing, i would've never asked for ideas D:
Thanks for the suggestions so far though! Will look into getting some of these, that jareth guy is scary, and if only it was a green deck I would've totally run waiting in the weeds.
No.173567
>>173447 also good idea on the soldier stuff, i suppose a few humans can be around to buff / scratch the ears of the cats.
No.173571
>>173563
There are a few low cost kitties that this guy could make use of. Not sure if he's a lock, though.
Don't mind the snippy faggots, m8
No.173597
>>173563
If there's an autist in here that can't comprehend that asking for cards to include in a tribal EDH deck means just that, then this argument was bound to happen.
The problem is with Cat tribal is that a lot of the less "obvious" options either are outclassed or are based around equipment. With white, you have a lot of options for equipment support, but at that point you may as well play a commander that works better for the card type.
>>173567
Definitely! Daru Warchief and Brimaz are outright terrifying together. Field Marshal and Veteran Swordsmith aren't bad options either.
No.173602
>>173597
>With white, you have a lot of options for equipment support, but at that point you may as well play a commander that works better for the card type.
>anon asks for apple recommendations because he's only ever eaten granny smiths
>ORANGES ARE STRICTLY BETTER
m8, just help him make a wicked cool kitty deck if you know shit all about the format.
No.173607
>>173563
There are so many white/green cats and just plain green cats that it wouldn't be a bad idea to just go ahead and splash green in if you just want a bunch of kitties to have fun with. It opens up a lot of fun and useful cats for you to use. Like Sabretooth Nishoba for example.
No.173622
>>173597
Winning isn't everything, anon, EDH is meant to be casual in my eyes. Can't hate on people who wanna make it competitive, i guess, but I don't see the point. Go play one of the many other formats about winning if you wanna win. Coem to EDH to have fun and play.
Yeah that seems to be the issue i'm running into, that most of the cat cards aren't necessarily good, maybe slipping into green would help? I still like the soldier idea, although I would use it sparingly.
>>173607
any idea for a WG cat commander? I really wanna use brimaz, since my friend bought me him + the cool ass altered tokens (pic related) but im open to ideas.
No.173636
>>173622
Well there are a lot of ways to generate cat tokens so maybe someone like Trostani, Selesnya's Voice or you could just go for a straight buff to your cats with Tolsimir Wolfsblood but they aren't cats so I don't know if you would like that.
No.173649
>>173622
Can you take a non-horrible photo of them alters, catbro? That knight one is fucking buttons.
No.173727
>>173602
>He doesn't know that once upon a time white cats were all about equipment
>>173622
"Losing is fun" is for Dwarf Fort, anon
No.173741
>>173602
While he's wrong, in that apples are the strictly better option, you don't need to make fun of him.
No.173883
>>173727
>you aren't playing the game right
>fun is for losers
I bet you are a joy and wonder to play with.
No.174046
>>173727
Is this better? I put them in sleeves, but they're like sticky, so pulling them out of the sleeve risks peeling the paint or whatever off.
No.174049
>PLAYAN
Isperia, the Inscrutable. I'm leaning more towards a fun flying-fatties deck than a no-fun hoverpope deck.
>BREWAN
Skeleton Ship. Attempting to maximise machineguns, combos, and spooks.
>HATIN
Having to cut funstuff for counterspells.
Everyone who plays at my FLGS plays the same ramp/combo deck. I fucking hate it.
>Best Monoblack General
Maralin for fun, Horobi for killlan
No.174122
DEMON TRIBAL!
DEMON TRIBAL!
WHERE DO I EVEN START?!
No.174143
>>174046
>Isperia fatties
>Skeleton Ship
>Maralin
>Horobi
You've got exquisite taste, anon.
>>174046
They're both pretty boss, but the second one is fucking fantastic. Did your friend do them personally, or just order them in?
No.174225
>>174122
Obviously not with that guy
No.174710
>>174225
Is he banned from EDH entirely or just as a commander?
I was thinking Rakdos, Lord of Riots as my commander.
No.174741
>>174710
"Banned as a commander" no longer exists
Griseldrizzle is b&
Rakdos can make your demons cost almost nothing
No.174804
>>174710
Just be warned though. Playing a black red deck tends to get you killed third, right behind the UG player and the Talrand counterspam.
No.174805
>>174804
From my experience, black red gets a lot of aggro but if an UGx deck drops a prophet or has an early start, they get all the focus.
Except if you're playing Nekusar, then you get shit on by all angles.
No.174809
>>174805
Maybe it's just my playgroup then. We kill anyone that runs prophet, then the talrand/tefferi player and then that guy playing the black red fuck everyone deck. I gotta admit seeing the black red player set off an infinite combo the first time was pretty funny.
No.174816
>>174809
My playgroup is mostly casual players, but that's the experience I've had playing on Cockatrice
That combo is great though. Either someone dies or you get an extra turn.
No.174830
Aside from lots of Snakey Jakes and warriors, what will make this guy fun?
No.174832
>>174830
I recommend running Seshiro instead. He(it?) runs better as snake tribal
No.174836
>>174832
I just pulled Saucekay from a random assortment of C/UC from my FLGS and was curious, is all.
I haven't even had a rummage around my greens to see what I could add in, to be honest.
No.174837
>>174830
>Anthousa, since you can always get lands back in Green
>Bramblewood Paragon if you go for Warriors
>Imperious Perfect makes Warrior tokens
>Jedit Ojanen makes Warriors when he attacks
>Kalonian Twingrove makes copies of itself
>Nacatl War-Pride can turn into a massive kill spell for opponents that have to block
>Centaur Battlemaster
>Centaur Courser/Nessian Courser/Swordwise Centaur
>Champion of Lambholt
>Dwynen's Elite (makes a warrior token)
>Hunted Troll (cheap regenerate)
>Lys Alana Huntsmaster (Elf spells make Elf Warrior tokens)
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?type=+[warrior]||subtype=+[warrior]&color=|[G]
Just go through there like I am.
Man Warriors really have sprung up over the years, haven't they? Some of them really good too.
No.174839
>>174836
Ah okay. The mythic hydra from Khans would work very well in the deck no matter which of the Kamigawa legends you go with. Same with Tribal Forcemage. If you're still going when I wake up in the morning I'll give you a few more pointers.
No.175290
Thanks for the advice, lads.
>>174837
Currently making my way through this and my stash.
Anthoussa was an obvious include as she's rotating out of Standard soon and I've fuck all else to throw her in.
>>174839
>Snake Hydra
Cheeky beggar.
Scouring through the hydras made me want Phytohydra more, to be honest
No.175429
>>175290
If you're still going the Snake Warrior dude Nacatl War Pride will slot in nicely. Also don't forgot to include some card draw since green tends to be pretty lacking in it. Elemental Bond will work nicely (especially with Nacatl War Pride)
No.175476
>>175429
Thanks for the reminder. Elemental Bond's pretty steady: I've already got Thrive/Inspiring Call going on, in addition to a few Heroic things from Theros/Nylea's Bow.
Right now I'm thinking I'll need a couple more trample buffs - all these "deathtouch" warriors are fine, but I'd like to send a few through to the back of the net.
No.175497
>>175476
Akroma's Memorial, Brawn, Primal Rage, Roughshod Mentor, the green lieutenant from 2014 commander and some ones that are somewhat unreliable are the soulbond for trample card from AVR and there was a card that gave your stuff trample if you had Ferocious from Dragons of Tarkir.
No.175975
>>175497
Roughshod Mentor's already in; and I think I skipped over Primal Rage when going through the greens.
Akroma's Tokens Ascend to Godhood is a bit rich for my blood, but thanks for mentioning it all the same.
>DTK Ferocious=trample
Much better choice than the Stampeding Elk Herd I had lying around (at least it's a bit more flavourful).
No.176006
I'm currently working on making my Vorell Tiny Leaders deck a proper EDH deck
However, is there any reason that I should keep Vorell as my commander, when I can just replace him with Vig, and dig Vorell from my deck whenever I need him
No.176013
>>176006
Have access to Vorel at all times
Momir Vig is pretty notorious and will get you killed immediately
If you're playing Vig you may as well just play U/G goodstuff combo and nix Vorel entirely.
No.176017
>>176013
yeah, but I don't have the shekels/desire to buy a whole bunch of combos (and I don't know what those combos are)
Also, I'm new to EDH. How much of my deck should be mana-rocks, and how much should be artifact/enchantment removal?
No.176080
Is EDH good for people with who got started with a deckbox and doesn't have a lot else? My Win/Loss rate in Standard's kinda spotty, even with my friend's deck, so I want to have some fun with what I have.
No.176081
>>176080
Shit, I mean a Deck Constructor's Kit
No.176083
>>176081
not really, know. EDH is usually what happens when you've been collecting for a while, and need something to do with 60-odd bulk rares and your favorite mythic.
No.176101
I've been building this after the full BFZ spoiler dropped. It basically wants to play control until it can drop Eldrazi all over the place. Thinking about cutting two cards for Dark Ritual and Erebos, but I'm not 100%.
No.176103
No.176105
>>176103
>>176101
1) More mana-rocks. Especially Sol Ring. Every EDH deck should have Sol Ring
2) Why mono-black, and what does Kalistria do for you?
No.176109
>>176105
The original deck this came from was a Mono Black control list that was already running a couple of Eldrazi-centric cards, and I felt like it was the next logical step to make it more interesting. I'll definitely think about rocks in the future, since I initially wanted to pack as many cool black-specific things in there as possible, but given Eldrazi are very mana-intense, I might have to do some cuts for rocks. Drana herself adds some removal to the list while being able to finish games as well, but could easily be replaced by other generals. She's inconspicuous enough though that people that haven't seen the deck before won't auto-target due to biases, which is common in my group.
No.176145
>>176017
Mana rocks depends on your curve. If you're casting big shit, 7-10 is good, though 10 may be much. Astral Cornucopia, Everflowing Chalice, Pentad Prism, Sol Ring, Simic Signet, and Gilded Lotus should be the base of your artifact ramp in Vorel. Include Krosan Grip, Freyalise, Viridian Zealot, and Reclamation Sage are all great options to get rid of artifacts and enchantments, along with back to nature and creeping corrosion for mass removal.
No.176146
>>176109
Maga is way better than Drana for big mana, and so is Geth
No.176153
The only EDH deck I've physically completed is a Prossh deck.
Is that considered an unfun dickhead deck? I just went for a fun commander deck that was cheap to modify into something strong.
No.176162
>>176153
Prossh is pretty much tier one "bash you for lethal on turn 4" combo, so yeah, he's pretty degenerate. He's no Narset or Derevi, but be ready to get hated off the table right after the U/G/x player
No.176181
>>176162
Oh. Well the deck I slapped together was pretty strong I guess. I just wanted the cheapest good EDH deck I could get from modifying the premades.
No.176428
>>176017
Mom rings the bell, everybody except you dies because Ulamog saves your ass
No.176858
Commander 2015 spoilers when!?
What is everyone looking forward to the most in C15? What are you hoping will be included? What do you want the generals to be like?
I'm hoping for a UR artifact-based general. There's so much support for it in both colors, but no decent, flavorful general to glue everything together like mono-blue and Esper has.
No.176872
>>176858
Not a goddamn thing.
I'm only just getting into the format and yet the monetized commanders shit me endlessly.
Taking a legendary from whenever the fuck and trying to make a deck work? That's fun and challenging. Using some snowflake specifically built for the format who has a million different abilities? Yeah nah fuck off.
They'll do SueWalkers again, won't they?
No.176915
>PLAYAN
"Fuck this shit, fuck my creatures, fuck your shit, fuck your creatures, too!" [Sidisi - Brood Tyrant] (Ridiculous synergy.)
"Tap, Untap, Return, Naturalise, Exile, Destroy, Unsummon, Protect." [Sen Triplets] (Just throw shit. Counter everything.)
>BREWAN
More like, FIXAN. Both of them are always in need of more cards, despite Fuck This Shit having:
>Ghoultree, Shitty Alternative Ghoultree (Nemesis of Mortals), Splinty (Splinterfright), Flying No-Trample Splinty (Revenant), Shitty Alternative Splinty (Graverobber Spider), and Nighthowler as my "Gravefeeder Crew".
>Psychic Spiral, Grisly Spectacle, Destroy the Evidence, and Lab Maniac as "Team Card Forfeit."
And T.U.R.N.E.D.U.P. has
>About 20+ "Tap" spells
>5+ Counters (Not enough counters)
>5+ Split Cards (some old enough to not have the Fuse ability)
>Shamefully low graveyard recursion
Totally need Liliana of the Swamp. All dat ult land doe.
>HATIN
Where do I start? Each of these decks represents a person playing in my EDH group.
>Wort's Goblin Conspiracy
>Derevi AKA "No, Fuck Your Win Con"
>Whatever the fuck the Psych student's been recently working on
>Oona. FUCKING OONA.
>Mono Green Elves
>Sekki of the Fuckton Spirits
And because we need a topic
>Who's the best mono-black general?
Depends. Whatchu running?
No.176938
>>176915
>Fuck ALL the Shit
You're an arsehole, anon and an inspiration
No.176951
>who's the best mono-black general?
My boy Chainer, Dementia Master. Kill enough shit to make it to the late game, go full scorched earth on everyone's hands and creatures, win.
Having a million and ten creatures come into play on command while hating everyone else's graveyard is just icing on the utility cake.
No.177008
>>176858
>Who is Nin?
I'm not sure what I want out the UR deck becuase I doubt I'll buy it. BW should be enchantments, GB should be reanimator, GU I won't end up buying most likely, but tribal something would be cool, and RW should be the artifact deck
No.177044
>>176951
>Chainer
mah nigga
No.177111
>>177008
If they did tribal for one, they'd do tribal for all of them and make a theme of it.
No.177148
>>177111
They did tribal elves in C14
No.177163
>>177008
>RW should be the artifact deck
As much as it would make my dick rock hard, I can't see this happening. Maybe equipment/voltron/etc., but not robots. It would pretty much be Nahiri 2.0.
No.177164
>>176858
a fucking top reprint
why won't they reprint this fucking card
it's a 30$ uncommon
why can't it get the sol ring treatment
fuck I'm mad
No.177167
>>177164
They won't reprint it because it's worth $30. They reprint Sol Ring in every precon because it was always worth like $3-4 at the most. You know they have some backroom dealings with Shark City Games about these sorts of things.
No.177215
>>177164
What fucking card nigger?
No.177217
>>177215
Sensei's Divining Top.
No.177221
>>177217
Yeah they'll never reprint it. It makes Legacy slightly more accessible and makes Star City Kikes lose money on earlier printings
No.177261
>>177163
At least it wouldn't be solely white. Fucking whitey hogging the equipment, keeping the necromancer down.
No.177263
>>177167
I live in Roanoke and worked there for five years and I can safely say:
NEVER BUY FROM SCG
No.177265
>>177263
>worked for Shark City Grabblers for five years
Confess your sins, my son.
No.177266
>>177263
Give up the goods. How bad is it?
No.177268
>>177266
>>177265
The employees are low-paid, treated poorly, and the owner is truly an egomaniac who wants only money and doesn't give a fuck about games. Nothing specifically horrible was ever done to me, but it made me hate MTG, especially constructed formats. Only the most despicable nerds play FNM there.
If you walk in there with some old collection and it's obvious you don't know what they're worth, you will be gouged, and horribly, but I guess that just goes with the territory. "Dishonest to the core" doesn't even begin to cover that place. The only thing worse than Pete is his horrible wife.
No.177285
>>177268
You can't just wander into /tg/ and leave us with that. That's like applying for a job in the Vatican and listing "sixth circle of hell" under previous work experience.
What were the most egregious instances you can recall?
>gouging
How common was this? I've been flopping cardboard for only a couple of years and even I know that shit has a lot of money potential. How could you be into this for any length of time and still get burned that badly?
No.177302
>>177285
One instance I remember because I was the one who sorted the collection after we bought it contained a Tabernacle, Mox Ruby and Mox Pearl, as well as a Timetwister, a bunch of other expensive old shit like unlimited dual lands, and a few beta duals. The collection took me a long-ass time to sort. The guy had nearly a complete set of Legends, I remember that much.
Some older guy had just found this box of thousands of old cards, apparently owned by a family member who had moved away. Pete gave him $250 because he (the seller) was too old/ignorant to look up actual value of such a collection. The seller assumed they were junk because they were unsleeved and in tons of old grubby boxes, I guess. I wasn't there to meet the guy. This would've been 2010 or so.
I'll be around at a later time if people have more questions. I'm not really sure what else I can add; SCG is a greedy business in the nature of greedy businesses everywhere. They will rip people off if given a chance. I can't imagine this is a surprise to anyone here.
No.177312
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Riku and RB-KILLALL with Mogis and a couple others depending on my mood as generals to cycle between. Probably gonna make Mogis the primary general and drop Kaervek completely since he NEVER gets to see play once people know what he does to games :(
>BREWAN
My Grixis mill deck is… a mess. I love drawing cards and shenaniganizing, but the deck can actually win outta nowhere. My choices are drop shenanigans for mana ramp so it wins more often and does stuff, or re-tool the deck into something else. Or build a whole new one. I'd rather tweak Riku for that "my turn for fun" kinda deck since I found I actually really enjoy Talrand. That deck is retarded but seems to actually work.
Oh, also; all-permanents Slivers isn't working as good in practice as it was on paper. Not even because of players fucking it up; bad hands are always bad and I am bad for making them :(
>HATIN
Not specific decks, but players who take too long deciding what they want to do and how they want to do it and players who just shit all over me/others because of past games.
In the first case I understand a complex game in later stages can make for some very tricky decisions and you have to weigh possibilities and outcomes. I get that, but you should know your deck well enough to know what's top of your priorities and how to handle it. Speed it up, come on, let's go mother fucker!
And second point is mostly because politics at the table can lead to games where somebody is no real threat and isn't likely to make a come back but noooo fuck them sideways because of what they did last week while PLAYER C over there effortlessly assembles a complete shitstorm. I know it's important to analyze and estimate power and threat levels, and I'm glad people can remember generals who are dangerous, but when it comes at the cost of awareness my blood pressure rises.
>Best mono-black general
My vote goes to Braids but I guess I'll have to pick… I dunno, shit. Uhm… Maga? No, that's… I'm sticking with Braids, fuck it.
No.177318
>>177167
Sol Ring was pretty expensive before they started putting it into every precon.
Also, I finally got a proper Sliver deck. This shit is mighty powerful, yo.
No.177593
>>177312
Braids is banned as a commander
No.177658
>>177593
>banned
>in a casual format
If you don't want to play against her, m8, tell the people you're playing with to put that shit away.
If someone brought her to my table, I'd gladly see what kind of fuckery she'd get up to.
No.177662
>>177658
The problem with Braids is she can restart the game if she stays on the field too long. Especially since she's not that hard to get out on turn 2-3. Long games become longer for no reason.
No.177716
>>177658
>Playing extreme competitive deckbuilds in a casual format
No.177853
>>177658
Have you ever played against even a half decent stax build? You can't usually play past turn 5 against them before your board's totally gone and you just sac everything on upkeep.
No.177868
>>177658
For the most part the Ban list for commander is pretty on point with cards that make games boring as shit or are just "I win" card.
Except they miss some cards.
This is Winter Orb. Have you ever sat down at a table to play magic, and then not played magic? That is what happens with this card.
At least with Blood moon you have basics, and with Armageddon your shit still untaps, but Winter Orb doesn't give a shit about fun games, only pain.
No.177873
>>177868
It's not unbeatable, and it restricts the guy that played it as well. Play more artifact ramp
No.177881
>>177868
i liked that card. combine with lanowar elves / bird of paradise type stuff and you have a awesome cripple machine
No.177885
>>177868
New Player detected
No.177955
>>177873
There are plenty in my deck, but grand arbiter gets it out so early it doesn't matter
>>177881
I play slivers so I do run Armageddon, but Winter orb is to much.
>>177885
:>)
No.177956
>>177955
Then run artifact removal and cheaper artifact ramp. It's not a difficult card to beat
No.177969
So is tribal birds viable at all? I've got something but I always seem to get stomped by better tribals, like Zombies, Angles, and Dragons.
Also how do I Nekusar? I had a B/U mill deck and the precon, I figure I can mix those and toss in some other stuff to maximize the fun.
No.178050
>>177716
It's not extremely competitive - it's extremely hateful. It doesn't say you want to win, it says you want everyone else to have a miserable fucking time.
There's far better shit you can run if winning is your priority, m8.
No.178239
>>177969
For Nekusar just look up some lists online, they all are pretty much the same give or take a couple cards. Birds aren't great unless you're fucking around in a casual playgroup, budget league, or make it super controlling.
No.178252
>>177969
>How do I do Nekusar?
Pillowfort, boardwipes, wheels, infect, draw effects.
No.178616
Alright, so Assault Suit with Zurgo is definitely a thing.
But does it work well with Ruhan?
Ruhan's cheaper, has a beefier body, and has access to blue artifact support, which is nice in Voltron. His random attacks also make pinballing him more pinball-y.
However, Zurgo is a bit harder to remove, and can get bigger over time. Other players might appreciate having more control over him when being gifted him.
So, Zurgo or Ruhan?
No.178619
>>178616
Zurgo gets to abuse boardwipes, worldslayer and gets black (tutors and shit).
Ruhan if you want to run more control I guess
No.178622
>>178619
I can also see board wipes with Zurgo painting a huge target on me. Not many players are going to let me just get away with that. Good in 1v1 games, not so much in multiplayer.
With Ruhan, I can see a really hyper-aggressive group hug deck (fight club deck?), especially since RWU gets a lot of political stuff. Zurgo is mechanically the better option, but I just don't know how fun he would be compared to Ruhan.
No.178699
>>178622
Ruhan doesn't even let you choose attackers, to be honest.
Zurgo is cooler mechanically. The only reason I'd pick Ruhan over him is is I really wanted blue.
No.179650
Turn 1: Island, Soothsaying
Turn 2: Mountain, Braid of Fire
No.179664
>>179650
Turn 3: Paradox haze
No.179783
>>179678
This bitch is disgusting
No.180023
>PLAYAN
Marchesa Control, with a side dish of combo. Snapcasters for days, baby.
>BREWAN
Nothing. I've got the deck I want, and BFZ didn't bring anything new and cool to the table.
>HATIN
Most UG things. Momir Vig, Zegana, Kruphix. Riku, Animar. I got a new playgroup, and like half of them play some flavor of UG or UGx. And nearly all of them have Palinchrons. I tossed the combos back into Marchesa because it's the only way to compete with them.
>Best mono-black general
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief all day every day. She's removal and a wincon in one sexy, sexy package.
No.180696
How are those Madnath decks coming along, friends?
No.180713
>PLAYAN
Trostani. Big token armies for days. It's getting boring though. That's why I'm…
>BREWAN
A Scion of the Ur-Dragon Changeling deck. Lots of lords, all the Changelings, and one of each of the Fate Reforged Dragonlords. Except maybe Ojatai. Tapping shit down is nice, but in EDH, not so effective. Might put him in anyway though.
>HATIN
Fuck painful wheel. Nothing like watching all the fun things I could have done get flushed down the toilet repeatedly to ruin my mood.
No.180776
>>180696
>7cmc general that can't do shit the turn he comes out
Mah m8
No.180778
>playan
fgt brd.dec, Derevi precon with swords and coastal piracy added from my collection
>brewan
Bant tokens, with rite of replication, cackling counterpart, mimic vat and other cool copystuff effects, with other janky/overcosted mirror and reflection effects for flavor. Still choosing between Jenara or Pheldagriff for commander.
>hatan
Sharuum controlombo, Arcum combo, Grixis reanimator and Arcanis counter-everything.
>best mono-black general
black is for homosexuals
No.181112
>>180778
Says the Derevi player
No.181894
I want to play Zurgo but I'm struggling with a strategy. What's a fun way to play him? I play with a group of friends, usually we have 3-4 players and the favored colors are blue and black. I was thinking about using cards like Master Warcraft, Aggravated Assault, Fury of the Horde, Mystic Barrier, things that manipulate combat. Is it a good idea to pair these up with cards like Duress or Slaughter Games so that I can fuck up blue mages's strategies?
No.182016
>>181894
World slayer Tribal
No.182403
>>180776
Why would you play Madnath if you don't have a way to get at least one, preferably several lands out on the same turn?
No.182719
>>182403
There's better generals for that.
No.183534
>>183525
>experience counters more emblems that can't be washed away by any cards older than itself
Oh, that'll fix it!
No.183535
>>183525
>Value creature
>Not much else
SO CLOSE!
Also, why did the set expansion symbol suck so much again?
No.183542
No.183544
>>183535
perhaps some of the new cards in the deck also interact with these counters, since they attach to you and not to the creature.
No.183555
>>183535
>full name spelled out the first time but not the second time
I know it sounds autistic to point this out, but this is such a basic formatting error. It's like this is their first time making cards.
No.183559
>>183555
That is exactly how it works on every card with a subtitle that references itself more than once
No.183564
>>183559
So it's actually part of the WotC stylebook to be shitty, great.
Not taking issue with you or anything, I appreciate the info. It's just such a stupid formatting style.
No.183633
>>183564
Why? Would you rather they write the entire card's name every time?
No.183638
>>183633
I think he'd prefer if they wrote the shorter version.
Since the effect is on the card in question, it shouldn't exactly need to be fully written out to be clear.
No.185060
>PLAYAN
mtg newfag, so nothing really yet, other than borrowing a friend's Karametra EDH deck to get experience
>BREWAN
Just traded a full art swamp for Daxos so I can build babby's first EDH
>HATAN
Phenax, jesus christ, someone in my circle of friends has that as a commander in a zombie token spawn deck
No.185063
>>179678
If you play Narset in an optimized deck, everyone will want to fucking murder you (not just in MTG) by the end of it. If you want to actually do something FUN with Narset instead of playing solitaire while everyone hates you, try making a Voltron deck with her. No extra turns or 11-cost enchantments, just use her trigger to pump the shit out of her and punch people in the face.
No.185184
>>185060
>traded a full art swamp for Daxos
you got ripped off buddy
No.185301
>>185060
You got ripped the fuck off but have fun with Daxos Stronk, he's a blast and I have to make an EDH deck around the bastard soon.
No.185322
>PLAYAN
Brion Stoutarm. Not a very well optimized deck, but it can be fun
>BREWAN
Horobi, Death's Wail. It looks like it could be a fun group slug deck
>HATAN
Nothing really.
No.186794
>PLAYAN
Zur, the Infector
Noyan Dar, Underpowered Shaper
Odric, Master Tactician
Ni-cool Bolas
>BREWAN
Niv Mizzet / Laboratory Maniac
Rubinia "Fuck your game, Sorrow's Path for everyone!" Soulsinger
>mfw playtesting that last one
>HATIN
Getting gangbanged
Aggro
No.186954
>>186794
>Zur
kill yourself anon
No.186956
>>183525
Oh wow this is shit
No.186976
>>179678
Narset Hugbox when
No.187087
>>186954
The best part is that Zur comes with his own "u mad bro?" expression. It's hilarious how many people within my playgroup aren't prepared for an Island Sanctuary and would rather waste an O-ring on it than, say, an 11/14 double-strike Eidolon of Rhetoric
No.187237
>>187087
no, seriously, kill yourself
No.187239
>>186794
>Plays Zur
>Hates when people gang up on him
Don't play such a degenerate commander and you wouldn't have that problem anon
No.187309
>>187239
>Implying I don't play Zur in degenerate playgroups
I'm sure I'll remember not to play Zur when my Odric deck isn't facing down against 3 Zurgo players that think that calling the Wrath of God on two 1/1 tokens is the funniest thing ever.
No.187375
>>187309
>Zurgo
>Degenerate
Are you serious mate
No.187377
>>185301
>>185184
It was a full art BfZ swamp, not an actual full art
No.187408
Hey guys im looking for a Green/White/Red General for my Banding EDH with General Jarkeld and Ordric The Tactician and Gaddock Teeg
>inb4 Banding is bad and your just being a hipster
No.187471
>>187408
Make sure you're reading Gaddock Teeg's ability correctly. It says CMC of 4 or greater, so, all players, including you, can only play cards with a CMC of 3 or below. Teeg will prevent you from playing Jarkeld, Odric, and most Naya-colored generals.
Teeg is one of those cards that's better as a general rather than in the 99, because he can screw you up just as easy as he will your opponents if you don't build around his ability. You really don't want your general hit by his ability, because you won't be able to play it the entire time he's out, and Teeg will likely be difficult to remove.
Keeping this in mind, this only leaves you with Mayael and Marath as your generals, and Mayael will not work with this brew of yours at all.
No.187474
>>187471
ok so ill probably take her out, any other naya generals? preferably one to do damage to get that 21 points of general damage since ordric can make all my creatures unblockable if need be
No.187476
>>187471
i wanted green for added spell protection and slight ramp, plus rampage works good with banding
No.187508
>>187377
You still got ripped off.
>>187471
Gaddock's ability only hits noncreatures mate.
No.187638
>>187508
You know what, you're completely right.
>>187471
Disregard most of this, I am a faggot.
No.187649
>>187375
Nigger if I wanted to play power ramp and constant boardwipes I'd play Yu-Gi-Oh.
No.187665
What are everyone's thoughts on Rubinia Soulsinger?
Lame enough to not draw a lot of hate?
No.187740
>>187665
>Access to Prophet of Kruphix and Courtly Provocateur
I'm trying to get her to work, and go far I'm getting a decent amount of hate from my playgroup. Stealing someone's general doesn't usually fly over well with the group.
No.187762
>>187740
Which is why I pair her with the significantly more reasonable Mayael.
Rubi plays a lot better in multiplayer, where there are many more targets to pick from, and it is easier to work out political maneuvers.
The trick is to run blink effects like Resto Angel, Deadeye, and Conjurer's Closet, so you can keep their stuff permanently. You also run Homeward Path to reset the board as needed.
No.187764
>>187740
>>187665
It's UGx. The savvy player is going to kill you early if not first.
No.187946
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Heliod Tokens/Enchantments
Daretti Artifacts
Zegana Combo
Borborgymos Enraged 50 Land
Scion Dragon Tribal
Teysa Control
>BREWAN
Sun Quan Beaters
Glissa Artifacts
Liliana Reanimator
>HATIN
Goodstuff decks. Use your imaginations fuck.
No.188027
>>187762
Sure beats what I'm doing with 'er.
>Not stealing the biggest creature on the board then slapping Assault Suit on it
No.188065
>>188027
>stealing a player's most beloved creature, then twisting the knife by whoring it out to everyone else at the table but that player
That's truly despicable. I'm definitely doing this.
No.189040
>>188065
Yeah Rubinia's a lot more evil than I expected.
>FNM at shop is centered around EDH because it's fun
>Join in game with mid-skill level opponents
>Wrexial, Elves, Avacyn
>Get asked by observer why I'm not playing "better" Merieke Ri Berit
>Get Kiora's Follower and Nimbus of the Breathe in opening hand
>Fast forward to turn 6
>Commanders start dropping for G and W
>Drop Prophet of Kruphix instead
>Pants start to be shit once group realizes what's happening
>Drop Rubinia on the end of Avacyn player's turn after testing the waters with Elite Arcanist
>Spend next hour doing the following:
>Stealing whatever unblockable creature Wrexial player was going to put his Swiftfoot Boots on, then using it to block his Consuming Aberration
>Trying not to get my shit wrecked by elves
>Reading Nimbus of the Breathe's flavor text to Avacyn, then point at my sideways Rubinia whenever he answered
No.189042
>>189040
Nimbus of the what?
No.189050
>>189042
>Get Kiora's Follower and *Niblis of the Breath in opening hand
I'm a fucking retard.
No.189074
>>189040
>Nimbus of the Breathe
You mean Niblis of the Breath?
No.189093
No.189158
>>189093
Yeah, your post didn't load until after I submitted mine. My bad. Or the servers, either one works.
No.189238
>>189158
Meh, idc. The game that followed was pretty shit.
>Join game of five after last Rubinia game
>Elves and Wrexial are back
>Elves playing land destruction mono green elementals. Can't tell you the general since I'm too fucking tired to think
>They're literally gay for each other, but the two biggest faggots are the other two players
>One guy is playing W/G/B equipment(?) with Teneb as his commander.
>Other player is running… shit if I know either; he only played his general once
>A bit of insight on this group: Equipment is perfectly fine with letting someone lose the game if that someone isn't him, even if it means he's guaranteed to lose in the next two turns
>Some shit about "I don't want to trade one player's win for someone else's"
>Has no problem trying to be That Guy otherwise
>Other player is quiet. Only times I played with him use used a lot of BFZ shit
>Had a G/R Omnath deck that won day 1 because I played Zur, which bought him enough time to build up elementals while everyone spends all of their removal on whatever I drop as soon as I drop it
>Just seems chill dropping Eldrazi
>Not having any of this shit
>Get out half-brewed Niv-Mizzet deck
>Opening hand has Jace's Archivist
>Drop Niv-Mizzet turn 8 (one mountain)
>Wrexial gets rid of it almost immediately
>90% mad
>Risk getting rid of what little draw I have
>Pay off into Library of Leng
>Archivist turns sideways every turn
>Trying to get more land to bring back Niv Mizzet
>Elves plotting with Equipment to try to stop me from generously giving them an 6-8 card hand per turn.
>Elves using land regeneration and destruction to break my non-basics so I can't crawl back over 6
>Equipment is trying to break kill my creatures and equipment keeping them alive
>Drazis drops Ugin
>Silently congratulate That Guy for making me waste two blue mana that I needed to drop a Counterflux because he didn't watch my board until I told him to put his hand in his graveyard
>Ugin goes -7, then has everyone sacrifice two permanents before killing me
>Go chat with Acacyn while they're getting finished off by Eldrazi
>mfw Elves "We didn't gang up on you."
No.189703
New Commander 2015 spoilers incoming.
No.189704
>>189703
Really glad Karmic Justice is getting reprinted
No.189771
>>189703
>UR
>built around the derpy xp mechanic
Well, fuck you, too.
No.189784
>>189703
Really hype for sneklord. Guy can hit for 6 commander damage unblockable on turn 4, on top of being UG. It's gonna be hype.
No.189808
>>189784
Yeah snek is pretty gud
>>189771
You really thought they wouldn't do something like this? But there will be a second two-color legendary creature, if that's any consolation.
I'm pretty excited for Daxos. Going to make a constellation deck with it.
No.189813
>>189784
Because UG's not over-represented in EDH already, right?
>>189808
>Brion Stoutarm wasn't the main draw for Commander
>and he turned out rad
Don't make me get my hopes up, fucker.
Daxos 2.0 might be interesting to use with parts of my old Nightsky Mimic deck…
No.189883
>>189813
Why are you mentioning Brion Stoutarm?
No.189888
>>189883
He wasn't the big draw on the front of the pack. But he was in there. And he was great.
No.189890
>>189888 (checked)
Sure, but he was only two colors in a three color deck. He was also in Lorwyn.
No.189892
>>189808
There's also going to be a reprint legend creature. The UR one will almost certainly be Melek though.
No.189894
>>189892
That's what I was thinking, but there's usually more than one new card that can work as a commander
No.189920
>>189813
UG is good. What I'm saying is that he'll be a strong 1v1 commander
No.189940
>>189890
I'm saying there was something in that box that wasn't made of disappointment and aids.
>>189892
Fuck. I like Melek, but it's not like he's tough to pick up…
>>189920
Here, though, I was just trying to start shit.
No.190126
>>189940
Well it's not like there's much to choose from. I don't think they'd put Jhoira into an introductory product, experienced players have enough trouble with suspend. Both Niz-Mivvit's and Keranos were either printed or reprinted recently and Nin was originally from a commander product. I guess it could be Tibor and Lumia.
No.191670
Okay fa/tg/uys, I need your help. Elves from >>189040 complained that my setup of Niv-Mizzet, Sigil of Sleep, Rhystic Study, and Rayne was "too complicated" for him to account for before trying to drop a shitton of elves with Yeva and tried to get everyone and their sister to agree that my play in response was illegal because he "undid" his castings (AKA, because I played blue and did blue things).
I could rant about the other degenerates at my FNM shop, but this isn't my fucking blog. What I want to know is how I can make my Noyan Dar deck powerful enough (besides tossing in Crucible and money lands) to face down all of the degenerates at once but yet be simple enough for there to be no excuse for someone to spend 30 minutes arguing about how "complicated" drawing cards is.
Deck so far:
>Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper
Master of the Waves, Zephyr Scribe, Daxos of Meletis, Deranged Assistant, Noble Templar, Elite Arcanist, Sapphire Drake, Battlefield Thaumaturge, Ruination Guide
Hangerback Walker, Pilgrim's Eye
Perilous Vault, Azurius Keyrune, Surveyor's Scope, Traveler's Amulet, Sol Ring, Azorius Cluestone, Strionic Resonator, Explorer's Scope, Coat of Arms, Sword of the Animist, Darksteel Ingot
Terra Eternal, Suppression Bonds, Ordeal of Thassa, Retreat to Coralhelm, Cestation, Dictate of Kruphix, Stasis Snare, Brave the Sands, Arcane Melee, Displacement Wave, Planar Outburst, Sheer Drop, Ondu Rising, Artful Dodge, Clutch of Currents, Hands of Binding, Distortion Strike, Roil Spout, Hidden Strings, Part the Waterveil, Swift Reckoning
Frantic Search
Scatter to the Winds
Refocus
Counterspell
Triton Tactics
Essence Scatter
Cerulean Wisps
Rewind
Ojutai's Breath
Dismiss
To Arms!
Unsummon
Steady Progress
Vault Skyward
Turnabout
Blustersquall
Nullify
Encircling Fissure
Evolving Wilds
Radiant Fountain
Darksteel Citadel
Azorius Chancery
Tomb of the Spirit Dragon
Transguild Prominade
Thespian's Stage
Command Tower
Mage-Ring Network
Calciform Pools
Tranquil Cove
Sandstone Bridge
Skyline Cascade
Prairie Stream
Forbidding Watchtower
9 Plains
14 Island
No.191716
>>191670
>I could rant about the other degenerates at my FNM shop, but this isn't my fucking blog.
But you're keeping the thread alive, and I'm enjoying the analysis and salt in equal measures, m8.
No.191755
>>191716
Well, if it means getting more potential help for my deck via thread attention, then why the hell not?
>Playing 6 player game
>Elves and Wrexial are in
>Pretty chill except for Elves sperging out about how complicated "when you play a spell without paying an extra {1} or target a permanent I control, I draw a card, you take 1 damage, and I bounce one of your creatures" is
>Other three players are playing Phelddagrif, Kaalia, and Anafenza, The Foremost
>Phelddagrif and I are just making everyone draw shit while prep the field for Niv
>Kaalia's 5 turn
>Attacks
>Doesn't know who he wants to attack
>Rolls a fucking die rather than do a fun little thing called "thinking"
>Tries to get me to not be angry at him when he swings an Avacyn and Kaalia at me on turn 6
>"Don't blame me, blame the dice roll!"
>Niv enters my turn
>Burn him for damage
>Phelddagrif declares that he's going to go full retard soon
>Kaalia's now pissed at me for dealing less than 10 damage to him
>Swings out at me again
>Goes for a dragon
>Next turn drop a Sigil of Sleep on Niv
>Get him down to 10 damage and destroy his board in the process
>Overhear him tell an observing Avacyn "I think this guy might be an asshole"
>Wrexial makes everyone discard their hands because he doesn't like flyers
>Phelddagrif tries to get away with dropping a Richard Garfield, Ph.D
>"There's a banlist, but the rules don't say that you can't play Un-cards"
>Elves tells him to fuck off after he tries to drop basic lands as moxes and black lotus
>"Combo player" Phelddagrif starts dropping well-known OP cards
>Kaalia scoops because if he stays, he's either going to get killed by me or a not-Jace the Mind Sculptor
>Phelddagrif scoops soon afterwards because he can't cause any more chaos if he tried
>Elves goes full >>191670
>Had enough elves to kill me anyway even if he only played on creature
>Fina-fucking-ly
>Go three feet to my left
>See degenerate and his "boyfriend" opening packs
>"He" pulls a Cavern of Souls
>She starts hugging him because she "doesn't feel comfortable owning a $40 card"
>These people will return to play more FNM here
>mfw I don't know any other card shops in the area that cater to EDH
>mfw that entire night
No.191787
>>191670
>my play in response was illegal because he "undid" his castings
here anon, carry this with you and show it to them
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/resources/rules/MagicCompRules_20140601.pdf
No.191791
>>191787
>Carry around a PDF file
I would if I could
>Find group of two
>One player has Noyan and Zur decks also
>Other guy doesn't really have anything with him
>Get into three-way Modern game
>Get ganged up on
>Visibly salty
>They get EDH started
>Jokes about running Zur
>"I'll run Zur too!"
>Getting control field set up
>He goes for his end game
>Zur + Shroud + Daybreak Coronet
>Not give a shit as he swings
>>187087
>Declares that even though he has his lands untapped (I packed counterspells) and no blockers, he's going to take all of the damage
>"You sure?"
>"Yeah."
>"It's going to deal 12 infect damage to you"
>"Okay. I take it. My turn?"
No.191793
>PLAYAN
Norin the Wary Chaos Control
>BREWAN
not anything right now
>HATIN
People who play a 4 color deck with nothing but nonbasics, but feel justified at chimping the fuck out when I use blood moon
No.191794
>>191791
I made the mistake of helping a friend build an absolutely degenerate Zur deck for shits and giggles. Never before have I regretted something as much as this.
No.191796
>>191794
I'm starting to think that Zur really isn't that degenerate when compared to all of the commercial Commander product that Wizards is shilling.
Also…
>Play Noyan Dar
>Get constantly told that I'm playing him wrong
>"You should build up all of your counters onto one land, like Darksteel Citadel"
>"Then, you can just make one giant creature unblockable rather than trying to get an army to deal 40 damage"
>"That way if someone plays a boardwipe you don't lose all of your lands!"
>Every
>Fucking
>Time
No.191797
>>191796
fuck man, your playgroup sounds really shitty.
I'm not sure about the whole commander decks though. Some of the generals are really good, but the others are just really shitty. I think they did a better job balancing them this time around. The shard decks had almost universal brokenness.
No.191805
>>191797
>Meren Of Clan Nel Toth
>Released right after BfZ
>Not broken
If it means telling its audience to commit mass seppuku for fun, Wizards is okay with broken shit. Combine her with Dredge and you have something unfun to play against.
The only one in 15 that's bad is Arjun, and even if you're not impressed with the B/W one then Karlov's still impressive
Speaking of only bad/not bad things, there is two unquestionably redeeming players in the group. Let's call them Sage and Anafenza
>Avacyn has younger player of 14 years that used to tag around him
>Probably little bro or some shit
>Kid brings a lot of fun prerelease product and plays fun homebrew formats
>Constantly tells people he wants to make "mono black-people tribes"
>Unspoken rules of the shop dictate that we must play EDH at least once
>Anafenza and Avacyn join in
>Jump straight to Zur because Anafenza is black
>Anafenza (Zurgo this time) and Avacyn also playing
>Kid constantly spouting racist shit
>Anafanza is sitting right beside him
>"So what cards to you think I should put into my mono black-people deck?"
>Anafenza sits there quietly and kills Avacyn with Kid's help
>"That's it, I'll call it my [Anafenza]-people deck"
>"I'll have my own [Anafenza]'s!"
>Sage comes over
>Sage is an Asian kid who hasn't even had his balls drop yet
>Starts telling Avacyn that he pulled a Kiora from one of the packs from his intro deck
>Kid makes racist remark towards Sage
>Sage walks over to Kid and looks over his shoulder
>"So… you're losing?"
>"What? No, I'm not losing."
>"When are you going to lose?"
>"Shut up."
>"You know you're going to lose, right?"
>Start making myself untouchable so that I can sit back and laugh while Anafenza starts wailing on Kid
>"You know if Zurgo hits you twice more you'll lose, right?"
>"SHUT UP!"
>"That won't stop you from losing"
>"Shut up. You're like… Japanese… or Chinese.."
>(Mumbles:) "…Or something."
>Kid's eyes are watering as Sage keeps reminding him that the abolishment of Jim Crow laws are causing him to lose a game of Magic
>Gets finished off
>"What a surprise, you lost!"
>"Shut up you little… Asian… kid"
>Kid and Avacyn go to store nearby for snacks
>Kid's eyes are still watering
>Anafenza chuckles at me and scoops
>Kid, to this day, has not returned for FNM at this shop
No.191818
>>191793
>4 color.
I haven't many of these. Which commanders?
I personally run 5 color and do just fine against blood moon(pics related.)
You run all the other jankey red cards right?
No.191865
>>191818
Its really just an excuse for superfriends, our group allows the nephilim because they really should be legendary.
My Norin deck is Red Fun.dec
It has Confusion in the Ranks to steal every creature, Possibility Storm to turn things into different things, Warpworld to fuck over everyone's board but mine somehow, and Grip of Chaos to stop targeting. This is only the tip of the iceberg of jank that is Norin the Wary. I also include a ton of deck filtering, utility goblins, ETB abuse, and artifact abuse.
No.191892
>>191791
there's smartphone apps for the rules
or you could just print it :^)
No.191928
>>191892
>Get everyone's attention in the office
>"Well fellows, it's been fun, but I am taking my skills elsewhere. Do not take any of this as a personal offense, but I do not like the direction that our… for lack of a better word… team is headed and with what systems we are using to develop broken applications with. Even if I don't agree with this new direction, I wish you all the best of luck in the immediate future."
>"I would also like to apologize for making every printer on this floor and the one above us run out of ink. You see, there's an asshole that thinks that Unhinged cards are legal in EDH, and if I didn't print out this 1000-page document containing the rules for a TCG, then my Friday nights would be an absolute bust!"
No.191965
>>191928
Seriously though, how difficult of a person do you have to insist that Unhinged cards are legal, just because no one ever showed you the exact rulings. What a fucking pain in the ass.
No.191969
>>191965
The worst part was that he insisted it was such a big combo for him to pull it with Johney, Combo Player.
It's a mind-blowing combo that surprised all of us and outwitted our every move. Imagine: A tutor… AND THE THING YOU'RE TUTORING FOR!!!!
Behind that in density was how the group decided to handle the un-card. Nobody at the time could cite the rule because none of us had the original commander website available at the time (printing that too), Elves insisted that even though they couldn't cite the rule immediately, the banlist must be honored. Everyone else agreed with that because nobody wanted to look up the rules. My voice was overridden, so I opted instead to bounce Garfield back into his hand later.
No.191971
>>191969
Holy shit, he even thought using Richard Garfield to pull off a combo with power 10 took skill. Was this person still in middle school?
No.191973
>>191971
He looked about high school aged. Can't quite say because I didn't ask him.
On a semi-related note, is it worth tossing in a Tide Drifter into my deck to replace the Noble Templar, and choosing to replace something else with Lullmage Mentor, or am I better of leaving Drifter out?
No.191976
>>191973
IDK, I like Drifter personally
No.191980
>>191928
10/10 sides in orbit
No.192009
>>191865
>>191867
>All this red fun.
Good. Very good.
Figured you were talking about the Nephilims, they should really just announce them as commander legal already and be done with it.
No.192253
So guys, I'm at a bit of a dilemma thinking my deck over… mostly over this little trick.
Is it worth throwing into my deck to try to deal with a stray Swiftfoot Boots, or am I better off tossing in something to neuter whatever the boots were going to go on anyway?
No.192327
>>191969
I'm pretty amazed that you keep returning to that place/play Magic at all any more.
>>192253
If you can fuck off the boots and what's attached to them at the same price, then sure. Otherwise you're not really dealing with the boots, are you?
No.192446
>PLAYAN
still getting into it.
>BREWAN
Tibor and Lumia, Tymaret
>HATIN
no one plays EDH in the ass-end of asia.
>Who's the best mono-black general?
I like Balthor the Defiled.
No.192462
I'm going to build this fucker. Any suggestions? I've got some shit in mind but I might have missed something sneaky.
No.192491
>>192446
Why build Tymaret? Seems he'd be better in the 99.
No.192682
>>192462
Soul sisters/mender
Ajani's Pridemate
Felidar Sovereign
Vampire Nighthawk
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Serra Ascendant
Archangel of Thune
Cradle of Vitality/Sunbond
Sanguine Bond
Vizkopa Guildmage
Well of Lost Dreams
>>192327
It's the only shop I know of that has an EDH meta, so I'd prefer to just rape some assholes rather than befriend the retards.
No.192740
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Been trying to put together a political Phelddagrif deck that just plays group hug til everyones been smacked around a bit and I can put some plays into action and coup whoevers in power but I almost never play any sort of control so have no idea what I', doing….
No.192811
>>192740
What have you got together so far?
Any half-decent combos or tactics that you're brewing?
No.192879
>>192811
The only really synergy I have going on is right of replication on suture priest and then gifting hippos to death, the rest of it is just card draw hugs. Figure blue suns zenith and sphinxs revelation would be good to deck someone for the win too but thats really all I have picked out so far.
No.192892
>>192682
This is what i have so far. I need help trimming it down to 100.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fatter-than-thou/
>>192462
>Vizkopa Guildmage
fucking why?
No.193092
>>192892
Sanguine Bond is only one card, but its effect allows you to turn Lifelink into an offensive weapon.
Also, Sadistic Glee on Karlov himself for the lulz
No.193099
>>193092
Sanguine Bond is there.
No.193120
>>193099
That's not the point. Vizkopa can offer you the same effect that Sanguine brings you with its own distinctions
Cons:
>Its a creature, therefore needs more protection than an enchantment
>You must pay the extra mana when you wish to deal damage while maintaining your defense or attacking with Lifelink creatures
Pros:
>It can give creatures Lifelink, including your opponents (in case you need to play politics)
>Activating the second ability more than once will cause it to stack
>It's a bear for 2 mana
If you don't want to throw it in, then don't. In either case, don't overlook it without a passing glance at least.
No.193449
>>193120
>politics
Deck description mentions French m8
No.193482
Why doesn't use of Karn while a player has cards exiled result in a loss for not having the correct amount of cards in your deck at the start of a game?
No.193587
>>193482
Because that's checked at the start of match, not game.
No.193646
>>191755
Kill them all, anon. Do it for us. Make the world a better place
No.193679
>>192892
Don't forget to give all your dudes lifelink.
No.193888
>>192892
Whoops, did I forget to suggest Ordeal of Heliod?
>>193679
Why stop there? Why not toss in First Response or Angelic Accord so that whenever you lose or gain a lot of life you also get more creatures to amplify or decrease the amount of life inflicted and increase your net life gain?
Or just get something like Auriok Champion.
>>193646
Working on it. There's a few people there who play EDH "more competitively," so they're starting to become a curveball.
The shop was crowded as fuck tonight because new commander product, so at least there were more people to play against, even if I only had two games thanks to some nigga stretching the game out for the sake of it.
No.193906
>>193888 (checked)
>Working on it. There's a few people there who play EDH "more competitively," so they're starting to become a curveball.
Where do they fall on the wonderful spectrum of "rules lawyering without knowing the rules" that seems to permeate your mob?
No.193930
>>193679
>Legendary Enchantment Artifact
It's shit like this that makes me glad I got out of Magic years ago.
No.193948
>PLAYAN
Rakdos, Lord of Eldrazi with a hint of Voltron
Mirri or New Drana Monoblack Vampire Tribal
>BREWAN
Hannah, Ship's Enchanter
Riku of the CLONES CLONES CLONES CLONES
>HATIN
Consensus seems to be UGx decks. I know I'm building Riku, but I don't go full asshole with it. The main blue cards is basically any clone and Rite of Rep.
>Best Monoblack
Skittles, or one of my two vampires. Both put the games I play in on a pretty good clock.
No.193951
>>192491
Preference, really. I have a real soft-spot for Pyre Zombie.
I still have the option to put him in the graveyard instead of the commander zone and he'll just gobackto the command zoneis someone exiles him.
No.193979
>>193906
It varies depending on the person. One of them handed my ass fairly to me in a game where his strategy was "drop Prophet of Kruphix then follow up with Augur and whatever other G/U shit he could drop with Kruphix mana.
…And this buddy within the sub-meta is the Phelddagrif asshat from the >>191755 game, so the group as a whole may not yet be bearable.
No.194355
No.194384
>>194355
Looks really nice. Sage of Hours is an excellent win con in case your infect creatures get taken out. You seem to be lacking in some countering spells, though, especially with one of your four costing 6 to play.
Consider adding in Rewind, for example.
No.194386
Is Grenzo any good/fun as a commander in /tg/'s opinion?
No.194408
>>194386
Haven't run him as the general but he does the work in my Alesha deck.
No.194419
>>194386
He's fun as fuck and can get pretty busted if you get more than 1 turn with him out
No.194420
>>194384
Counting Mystic Snake, the deck has 5 counterspells. I think that's enough, though I may switch out Counterlash for something less expensive.
No.194430
>>194386
I actually just started to build him. But should I go big creatures or small? Also illusionast bracers are fun with him
No.194500
>>194355
>35 lands
>only acceleration spells
you gonna have a bad time son
No.196167
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Shu-yun the silent tempest 4th of july
>BREWAN
Elesh Norn monowhite, and something special of the home variety
>HATAN
Child of Alara
No.196489
Should we get a new thread going, or try to ride this one out for as long as possible?
No.196491
>>196167
>Shu Yun
Apparently, anons at half/tg/ can't have civilized discussion involving him. Why is that?
No.196904
>>196491
Because they're from batteredwiveschan?
No.196906
>>171173
>In a Commander game where this card is your commander, casting it from the Command zone does not count as casting it from your hand.
>If you didn't play it from your hand, you lose the game
W E W
No.196907
Didn't see a custom card thread up so whatever, made some dorks
No.196909
>>196907
And I just realized that the Atog is stupid with Bunrei's Promise and Hatching Plans
No.197025
>>196904
I'm serious, I was watching one of the recent generals I like to see the size of the bullet I dodged, so to speak. They made one thread, then remade it about 30 or 40 posts in because they were afraid of Pucatrade shills.
Then someone in the new thread did the 'post your decks' thing, and three people posted Shu Yun decks. Several anons immediately cried 'Shu Yun spam!' and the thread devolved into shitposting any time someone mentioned his name.
Most other threads that aren't quests are in about the same state, too. It's a crying shame how horrible that place has gotten.
No.197093
>>197025
Cuck/tg/'s mtg threads are downright trash. The lore threads are full of trip and waifufags, the edh threads are nothing but people complaining about Shu Yun, Purphuros, or some other somewhat high tier commander, custom card threads have always been shit, and everything else magic related is full of faggots.
No.197177
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Glissa the traitor, stax/combo
Brion, RW play rw stuff then fling a serra avatar
Derevi, something i made to combat the narsets/eldrazi/artifact decks that have recently entered my meta
also made a shit Xenegod deck because i often get bored and make something that only lasts for a couple days before i take it apart
>BREWAN
Zada. got a list down, just testing goblin offensive. also gotta shill out the remaining $270 in cards
>HATIN
good mana rocks. not that i think they should be banned. i'm just too poor to afford them
>Who's the best mono-black general?
Mikaeus. you are retarded if you thought of anything else. no other dude generates that much value in monoB
No.197191
>>196907
Wouldn't Somnivore die as a state based action right after your untap step? Make it's toughness *+1
No.197201
>>197177
>Brion
>fling a serra avatar
Brion strats always make me giggle. I've got to get around to picking him up soon.
No.197530
Are there any cute girl cards I can make a deck around?
No.197572
>>197530
White has the lion's share of waifus and waifu accessories.
I'm working on my drawfagging so I can moeshit up my Mayael and Sydri decks. Pic semi-related; I didn't do the art.
No.197608
>>197572
>check real card's art
That's not cute.
No.197707
Well I've fallen off the wagon, fucking Simic.
I've bought the UG commander deck. Any stand-out suggestions been made that have synergy with Ezuri or Kaseto?
Also what the hell, when I bought the Prossh commander set it came with oversize cards for all three featured commander cards, but the Ezuri one only comes with Ezuri. That's dumb.
No.197827
>>197707
Because they're not the super special snowflake experience counter generators that they're pushing this time around. Fucking lazy.
No.197966
>>197707
>Kaseto
yeah, voltron that faggot up, enjoy your unblockable commander that hits for 6 turn 4.
No.198008
>>197966
What's some good voltron that wont break my dick in order to acquire?
No.198014
>>198008
Sword of Vengeance, Argentum Armor, Mask of Avacyn, Darksteel Plate, Basilisk Collar, Champion's Helm, Empyrial Plate, Grafted Exoskeleton, Hero's Blade, Fireshrieker, Inquisitor's Flail, Loxodon Warhammer, Mask of Memory, Masterwork of Ingenuity, Nim Deathmantle, Queitus Spike, Sickleslicer Assault Suit
No.198078
>>198014
>>198008
>Sickleslicer
I meant Scytheclaw
No.198079
>>197191
Yeah I realized that after I posted it. But you get it
No.198080
All I enjoy must fall to the blight it seems. It really has been a long time since I've played magic.
No.198111
>>198080
>not setting your country to "Australia" and therefore defaulting everyone's pronouns to "cunt"
No.198336
>>197707
from experience (doyouseewhatididthere) in my playgroup, Ezuri is a powerhouse. Kaseto could be good as well, but i assume you're better off throwing him in the 99 under a different UGx legend.
I can't really think of any standout secret tech for Ezuri, the best thing about him is you already have a large array of very good <3 power creatures in those colors. the only thing i can think of that i would include is the UG manland from BFZ, and maybe blighted agent depending on your infect preferences.
One intresting option i've heard is to run as many mana dorks as possible, play some stupid cmc 5 or 6 thing then buff you're birds of paradise, arbor elves, what-have you into large beat sticks. not sure how badly your late game would suffer from this kind of strategy though.
No.198411
>>198336
Well at this point I'm sitting between running it with Ezuri as the Commander and having everyone despise me, or turning it into a Kruphix deck because I like Kruphix and he seems really flexible.
People don't have a hateboner for Kruphix too, do they? It's been a real long time since I've played Magic.
No.198436
>>198411
>Do people have a hateboner for Kruphix?
In my experience Kruphix is liked more than just about any other UG general.
No.198506
>>198436
Any advice on how to run it? He seems like a goodstuff deckhead, ramp him out then build up mana to play really strong creatures/spells overwhelmingly.
No.198591
>>198336
>play some stupid cmc 5 or 6 thing then buff you're birds of paradise, arbor elves, what-have you into large beat sticks. not sure how badly your late game would suffer from this kind of strategy though.
Would you need the late game if those buffed creatures are doing their job?
No.199793
>>198591
>Expecting consistent results from a Singleton format
>Expecting armies of small creatures to last in EDH
No.200111
>>200098
I'm not quite sure I understand.
No.203333
>PLAYAN
Alesha, who smiles at ETB-triggers
>BREWAN
Nothing specifically at the moment, but I'm thinking about either Rhuric-Thar or Wort, Boggart Auntie. However, I doubt it makes a lot of sense to start brewing a new EDH-deck when my first one is still in beta, so to speak
>HATIN
Nothing really, so far there are only two of us in my playgroup doing EDH. On the other hand one might say Sedriss, but I guess the main problem isn't my opponent playing Grixis but me not having the cards I need to make the most of it.
That being said, what would you guys say are some of the absolute must-haves (not counting general EDH-staples, I already feel bad enough for not having a single Signet) for everyones favourite not!Mongolian transperson? Also, did I make a grave mistake by buying Yawgmoths Will, Abyssal Horror, Mind Maggots, Reveille Squad, Remote Farm and a few others for 7€?
No.203429
Thinking of combining my Green Red and Blue cards to make a Yasova deck that focuses on voltroning her and stealing shit all over the place alongside her ability, and sacrificing the stolen stuff or finding a way to keep it.
Any suggestions on good voltron/steal/creaturesac cards?
No.203447
>best mono black general
>ctrl+F chainer
>4 results
I knew I came to the right place.
Nightmares are my shit. especially when I can send a few eldrazi to the graveyard playing legacy
No.203480
>>203429
Evolutionary Leap
If you wanted to be really evil, Jalira, Master Polymorphist, then put in only one or three funstuff G/U/R nonlegend creatures like Inkwell Leviathan
>I'm not doing that in my Rubinia Carnevale di Cartone deck
No.203484
>PLAYAN
I play Duel Commander on Xmage and a recent Griselbrand list made 1st that is disgusting. Paying 7 to draw 14 sign me the fuck up.
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11047&d=262845&f=EDH
>BREWAN
I'm a Bosiju away from completing my Mono Black Sidisi Ad Nasueum combo deck irl. I usually play a Treefolk Tribal and Soldier tribal for casual fun but sometimes there's people who bust out their broken Narset or Wanderer deck and this kills the whole table with Sickening Dreams discarding 49 swamps. Really kept them in line to play their more casual decks so everyone can have a decent time.
Also a shout to to Waste Not in multiplayer legacy games keeping autists in check.
>HATIN
I don't know what it is about people who play blue permission but they must have the tiniest ding dongs in the world. Why do they attract so many people who have no control other their own lives but get a rush of authoritative power from playing counterspells?
>Who's the best mono-black general?
Multiplayer: Chainer, Dementia Master
1v1: Xiahou Dun, the one eyed
French: Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Shoutout to my girl Braids. I play a Braids stax in Legacy that is super fun, the list I found online was dubbed Three Girls 1 Snake; Braids, Liliana, and Othiomancer. Featuring Chalice of the void, Trinisphere, Smokestack, Crucible, Ensnaring Bridge, and
TRADING POST.
No.203521
>>203429
Remember, Conjurer's Closet and Deadeye Navigator. Both of their effects let you keep the creature permanently.
They can also lose you the game real quick, since no one's going to let you live that down.
I learned that the hard way with Rubinia Soulsinger.
No.203630
>>203447
>not playing Kagemaro
>not showing all the blue control decks who the king really is.
>not casting all the huge black spells.
>not drawing shit-tons of gas and generating copious amounts of mana.
>not being the evilest fuck at the table.
>Literally Pinhead.
Come on.
No.203663
>>172249
haha sire of insanity goes hilariously well with Necropotence.
No.203678
>>203630
>not just putting Kagemaro in Chainer
>not having a 4 mana instant speed board wipe at all times
>not filling your own deck with nothing but utility and ridiculous spells
>not showing them who's the boss of this gym
>>203484
I almost built Toshiro Umezewa instead. On one hand, I'm sad I missed out on playing removal tribal. On the other, holy shit Chainer is FUN.
No.203701
>>203521
>>203480
Well I'm trying to make a balance of voltron, stealfuckery, and getoffme/control cards in order to not instantly hang a noose around my neck.
No.203783
>>203484
>I'm cool because I play banned cards
No.203798
Cutting cards is probably the thing I have the hardest time with, alongside being good at magic.
http://www.hastebin.com/xaluyefiyi.pl
No.203807
>>203798
>40 Artifacts + all of those combat phases
>No Hellkite Tyrant
No.203813
>>203807
I need to remove cards and you give me more cards to add FUCK
added
No.203814
>>203813
Any time. Trying to brew something similar with Surrak.
>Playgroup looks at me like I'm retarded after dropping Niv Mizzet Dracogenius, not Firemind
>Prophet of Kruphix next turn
>Dumping mana into cards
>Three combat phases = 3 cards and damage
>End up drawing all of the protection he needs
Not saying you should add your own Niv, but Temur is fucking fun as hell this year, and your options are nowhere near limited.
No.203817
>>203814
There are plenty of cards I could add to this, I just want to get something set as a goal, then I can put together a shit version with cards I have then work towards it.
No.203824
>>203429
Guided Passage is a pretty good card, especially if you opponent doesn't know how your deck works yet.
No.205593
Well I just discovered that I have Prototype Portal and Tangle Wire in the same deck.
Sorry cockatrice guy who was getting on a plane. I just wanted to clone Sol Rings, I didn't intend for this monstrosity to happen.
No.207272
Well /tg/, this might be the last EDH story from me for a while because I have a new resolve not to kill myself due to being a pathetic beta.
>Two FNM ago at the gates of hell
>See two new people after talking with Anafenza
>Sage and Avacyn join in game with those two, making five player fight
>Two new players are semi-sperg and absolute QT
>Semi-sperg is bro to one of the shop's better players, so his British accent is totally out of place
>QT plays Rubinia. Obviously unaltered Evasive Maneuvers
>Look at Avacyn
>He grins and shakes his head horizontally
>Mirror match with my Cartone Carnevale (Rubinia deck)
>She's joking about how I "stole her commander"
>She cuts my deck
>Exact. Fucking. Same way as I do
>Avacyn smiles and shakes his head because he knows why I'm taking a beat to pause over this
>Semi-sperg tries to use Kiora, the Crashing Wave as a commander
>Allow it because we fucking survived the Richard Garfield "combo"
>Sage plays Wade into Battle, unaltered
>Making banter with Rubinia throughout game
>Devolved into small talk over game as cardboard is now being shuffled all around arena
>She leaves with semi-sperg early from the shop
>Asks if I'm going to be there at the shop again
>Pay {3} to not spill spaghetti
>Tell her no, but there's always the next FNM
>She doesn't arrive at the next one
>Fast forward to tonight
>Rubinia is sitting as Semi-sperg's sister and Ruhan play a game; she lost
>Go over to sit beside her after she invites me over
>Casually talking over game
>Ask where her boyfriend is
>"I'm not dating"
>Learn semi-sperg and her aren't an item
>Making small talk throughout games
>She seems a lot more distant than before
>She's looking at her phone
>Her friends arrive
>Says she's going to go clubbing
>Turn back from the happy-go-lucky mood I was in to the type of asshole that plays Zur EDH decks
>mfw finally see what how short her skirt is
>mfw realizing how much time I just wasted
>mfw she's probably getting it up the ass by some chode while I'm just sitting here on 8chan shitposting
>mfw after that a lot of the people stopped playing EDH in the last hour for "pack wars"
No.207286
>5-color Ally general
This could be interesting.
No.207289
>>207272
anon I didn't need this right now
>see a qt that plays mtg
>they're dating a 2/10 sperg or beta
EVERY FUCKING TIME
I mean, I'm not saying i'm much to look at but god damn, how do ugly betas get girlfriends? Are female magic players just desperate? The attractive male mtg players I know are single too, it's just insane.
Half the time they're yugioh/LoL players too, which makes even less sense considering how unbearable those two groups are.
No.207290
>>203333
Everyone I've seen that plays sedris builds it wrong.
Mine is a grixis combo deck and it's consistently a threat to everyone but our resident niv-mizzet player, who runs timetwister, if that's any indication of his deck's powerlevel.
No.208315
>>207272
>>207289
It's a huge fucking mystery how beta spergs are able to land qts that play mtg, though I would be more than willing to bet that in most cases the beta is getting cucked.
>>207286
Why are all the new commanders in the lore women? It breaks immersion so fucking hard
No.208330
>>207286
sorry but that's shit. 5 mana for a 3/4 you can't even use the power unless you have all manas.
No.208447
>>208330
>5 color identity with only 1 color cost
>Tutors for more ally snowball on etb, breakable with Cloudstone Curio and blink effects
>gives a mana sink that isnt total poop
not the best card ever, but allies tribal needed a general
No.208569
Nin, Keranos, or Melek for artifact shenanigans?
No.208576
>>208569
>artifact shenanigans
>U/R
melek does nothing for artifacts, keranos is a good creature period, and nin is more of a build around.
just go with daggson, sydri or daretti
No.208579
No.208589
I play EDH to hang out with friends and waste a few hours.
Volrath is generic "black stuff" though swinging with him is a quick way to kill anyone. Brago is ETB jank.
No.208846
I just assembled my first EDH deck today, white and blue. I'm having trouble deciding on using Grand Arbiter Augustin IV or Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer. The deck is based around your usual blue dickery and hardcore token synergy when I want to actually get shit. Augustin McNutBustin is good for all around, but Goyim Hazid has such nice dickery potential.
No.208849
>>208846
>Playing the Grand asshole.
Please avoid at all costs, he is not a fun commander.
Gwafa Hazid on the other hand…
No.208851
>>208846
Be a man and play Kanghee or Rasputin Dreamweaver.
Agustin will attract hate. Profiteer, not so much. Your other options are geist and brago, and they also are very hated.
No.208852
>>208851
I'll be honest, I thought about Rasputin just so I could play the song when he comes out.
No.208863
>>203429
My nigga, we had the same idea.
Here's a few card ideas I came up with. Other sac outlets include birthing pod and the various artifact altars. Altar of Dementia is my favourite. Shivian harvest if you want to be a dick and sacrifice your opponent's dudes to wreck their lands. And Heroes Blade for a small free equip boost on your commander when she comes in.
If you can get a sac for free outlet, you can use Insurrection as an expensive boardwipe for all opponent creatures, even if they have hexproof or indestructable.
Stealing cards is a pretty strong form of removal if you can set it up right.
No.208914
>>208846
Seeing as how it's basically just a goodstuff deck, you should go with Dragonlord Ojutai. He's powerful, but not so much so that he draws hate like Grand Arbiter does. I run an Ojutai deck and he rarely gets destroyed in the first 4 turns he's out, even when I'm attacking with him.
>>208863
>>203429
I've found the Vow aura cycle from the og precon edh decks are pretty good with Yasova. Put it on an opponent's creature then stealing it is pretty great, and allows you to be political, and it's a cheap costed way to boost Yasova's power.
Bazar Trader is pretty hilarious when you give shit away. Dominus of Fealty is another great addition I've made in my own deck. Also, don't forget the best enchantment in green and in this deck:
Greater Good
No.208979
>>208315
>why are all the new commanders in the lore women
Tazri and Drana are literally the only ones anon.
Besides them you have Kalitas, Munda, Noyan Dar, the gruul Joraga elves in the new set, and obviously Gideon leading the whole thing, all dudes.
You guys spend way too much time obsessing over SJW shit to where you start seeing it everywhere, just enjoy the fucking card games
No.209001
>9-person game
>Playtesting Tasigur(-fuck your)self-mill
>Get wrecked game one by player who died immediately afterwards
>Game two
>Brightsteel Colossus drops
>Everyone's shitting themselves because:
>1. All of our players that could play an Act of Treason or the like also have Blade of Selves out.
>2. Artifacts
>Begin politics
>Tasigur's ability is activated, choose player most in danger from the colossus and tell him there's one card in my graveyard (Butcher of Malakir) that can stop the colossus since everybody wasted their exile spells
>Goes for Putrefy
>Our faces when
>Somehow win that game even after getting hit with a Myriad Borderland Behemoth
>>208979
>You guys spend way too much time obsessing over SJW shit to where you start seeing it everywhere
That would be a valid complaint… if WotC didn't try to incorperate SJW politics into the game to try to make its story more "accessible."
No.209037
>>209001
> if WotC didn't try to incorporate SJW politics into the game to try to make its story more "accessible."
>implying anyone cares about the STORY of MTG
It's not like its on the fucking cards or anything, whats the point of constantly shitposting about it
8/tg/ acts like Alesha's big trannie cock in on the card art and her flavor text is a list of preferred pronouns, when the biggest thing you guys have to complain about is "one of the new cards is a GIRL LEADER"
When it starts affecting the actual game it'll be one thing, but you guys are really grasping at straws here
>inb4 "she"
No.209065
>>209037
Hey, it's the >>>207784 anon!
>Who is Vorthos?
>she
No.209067
>>209065
>Hey, it's the >>>207784 anon!
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>Who is Vorthos?
Apparently a huge autist if people who read uncharted realms have their entire experience ruined by the barest mention of a character they don't like for entirely arbitrary reasons.
You seem to have lost the ability to differentiate between minority characters existing at all and muh diversity representation down with whitey/patriarchy/cis/normies.
This is especially true given the fact that they've clearly backed off of throwing too much of that in there since Origins and BFZ had none, so you got what you wanted and you're still complaining
No.209069
>>209067
Hey man, I loved your retarded identity politics tantrums in >>200237 where you tried to argue for kobold rights. :D
No.209072
>>209069
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Hold on, lemme find a smug anime face real quick, that should REALLY trigger you
No.209078
>>209072
That just make it more authentic! :D
No.209079
>>209078
I mean, I know /pol/ seems to consider the entire website their own personal hugbox, but surely you can't be retarded enough to assume that anyone who doesn't spend all day complaining about SJWs must be the same person.
Not that I like SJWs either, or even have any personal problem with /pol/, but sometimes I would like to be able to talk about games on the games boards without it being derailed by muh red pill
No.209081
>>209079
>No, YOU'RE the guys making a big deal of it
>I'm just going to go write multiple paragraphs on how I DON'T CARE and devote time to saying how much it DOESN'T MATTER!!!
Aw, same sort of insecurity as in your >>200299 post. I am such a fan!
No.209082
>>209081
>>I'm just going to go write multiple paragraphs on how I DON'T CARE and devote time to saying how much it DOESN'T MATTER!!!
Dank strawman anon, I never said any of those things.
And I know you really wish you could reopen your argument with the sperg you keep linking to (and yeah that guy is almost more retarded than you god damn) because its the closest thing you have in your life to genuine friendship, but it really just isn't the case, and for that i'm genuinely sorry.
However, I digress, since this anon >>209080 is very much correct, so I will move on.
Considering I play Daretti, the worst hate for me is enchantments like rest in peace and aura of silence, so I try to include colorless stuff that can hit them like all is dust and scour from existence. Chaos warp is in there too obviously.
No.209101
>>209082
>8/tg/ acts like Alesha's big trannie cock in on the card art and her flavor text is a list of preferred pronouns, when the biggest thing you guys have to complain about is "one of the new cards is a GIRL LEADER"
>I never said any of those things
Could have fooled me.
>[I] am correct. Moving on
Aha, classic. :D
No.209359
>>209082
/leftypol/ pls go
But before you do, can you I ask you a question? How do you get that far up your own asshole?
No.209488
Trying to get started with EDH on a budget. Anyone know a good U/B commander I could grab for cheap? I was thinking I could pick up a copy of Circu, but considering the decks are singletons the best part of his ability essentially does nothing. The mana to cast him is pretty cheap, and just in general I like the card so I'll have fun playing him despite the drawbacks. Still, at the same time I don't want to be losing every single game due to a shitty commander. If there aren't any good U/B to pick up though I could always go with mah nigga chainer.
No.209506
>>209488
Literally no point in taking him. If you're going UB then I assume you're doing graveyard dickery, since mill is pretty dumb in EDH. Wrexial or Dralnu are are pretty neat.
No.209512
How do I soldier tribal in EDH?
No.209524
>>209488
My favorite UB EDH deck was with Lazav, Dimir Mastermind. Let everyone else bring the cool creatures to the game, just pack enough good mill stuff in there and you have a hexproof version of whatever good shit people pack into their decks.
Nothing better than copying someones commander and making a hexproof version of it.
No.209528
>>209524
yeah I was thinking I could go with him too and surprisingly he goes for a lot cheaper than what I expected.
>>209506
Same goes for the two mentioned here.
Maybe my concept of cheap has been warped to hell by the prices I see slapped on some Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
Another one that I thought might be interesting to use would be Mirko Vossk, but again he runs into the problem of trying to mill a 100 card deck. Guess I'll keep the ludicrous amounts of milling to legacy games.
Graveyard dickery, however, is my fucking specialty with all of my mono blacks in legacy. I bet I could easily throw together something similar for EDH, granted some added U flavour splashed in there as well.
As I said before >>203447 once you get an eldrazi on the field for 2 mana there's no fucking going back for the rest of the players - at least not with the group I play with.
No.209539
>>209488
Best ub general is probably wyden the biting game.
Technically tasigur can be UB too… so that's an option
No.209597
>>208447
And I'm still using false god
No.209625
>>209597
You're using an objectively inferior general
No.209634
No.209952
Throw some multiplayer fun ideas at me for my Mario party deck
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/type-2-chaos/
No.209960
>>209952
Pretty sure oath of druids is banned
Aside from that
No goblin game/10
No.210042
>>209960
It's not.
I own goblin game It just gets old. I also had thieves auction but it also got old,
No.210227
Any thoughts on this gimmicky mono-creature Horde of Notions list? Everyone in my playgroup is making one.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/horde-of-creatures/
No.210236
>>210227
You're going to need a lot more mana dorks. Elves of deep shadow, llanowar elves, exalted hierarch, the very few black cards that add mana, etc.
No.210377
>>210236
I've been playtesting against my other decks and I've yet to have mana problems, so I think I've got a sufficient amount of dorks.
No.210379
>>210377
Did someone say dorks?
No.210380
No.210381
>>210380
>>209512
Aurelia as the commander. Play a bunch of buff artifacts and enchantments. Door of Destinies, Coat of Arms, Captain of the Watch, Akroma's Memorial, Assemble the Legion, Obelisk of Urd, Angelic Skirmisher, Marton Stromgald, etc. Extra combat phases are amazing as well.
No.210383
>>210381
>Legendary Creature — Angel
Is it really worth it to break type for a commander?
No.210384
>>210383
She's by and large the best RW commander. Theres a guy at my shop that runs Iroas soldiers. None of the legendary soldiers are that great for what you want to do.
No.210413
>>176951
He's so great as a Commander.
My mono-B deck is a dessert of evil and he is the black cherry on top.
No.210653
Is there a worse general?
No.210695
>>210653
Phage the untouchable is worse. If you get mind slaverd you lose the game.
No.210769
>>209037
>implying the story wasn't always the driving force of the game.
No.210799
>>210653
>>210695
You can actually play Phage with Torpor Orb or Platinum Angel out. Haakon is literally uncastable.
No.210848
>>210799
Command Beacon + Discard
No.210906
>>183544
as someone who bought that deck (blade of selves, hnggg.. )
No, it doesn't. The only cards that give you exp counters are the generals. (admittedly, you might be able to abuse this to build a silly 5 colour deck, as others get exp counters much easier than kalme)
No.210936
Any suggestions besides the obvious "get money lands" for my Tasigur deck? Only thing that comes to the top of my head at the moment is to swap Voyaging Satyr for Wood Sage and adding in Reanimate somewhere.
http://www.hastebin.com/ruceyenahu.vhdl
No.210992
>>208979
Yasova, Narset, Alesha (technically depending if you consider trans actual women). Elspeth being the main protagonist in Theros, the majority of the poster planeswalkers now being female
Come on now you have to notice the trend here in the least even if you dont accept it as an agenda
No.210993
>>210992
Don't forget making Gideon a nigger
No.210994
>>210992
Oh, also anafenza.
We've been swimming im magic pussy for months. It's not the worst thing ever or even a bad thing but it comes off as straight up attempts at pandering
No.210997
Let me post Cripplewheels
>>210994
Oh I'm sorry again there's also the dragonlords Atarka and Dromoka.
Other bits being Sarkhan being literal dragonkin and Narset having autism for bonus social points
No.211007
>>210997
To be fair, Sarkhan being "dragonkin" isn't degeneracy because this is a universe where he can literally turn himself into a dragon, unlike all of those badshit stupid Tumblrinas that think they're deer for wearing fake fawn spots like freckles. That, and it's fiction anyway.
No.211010
>>210994
>>210992
That's okay, I'll just be sure to make lewd animu gril alters of all of them to parade around my LGSs, just to let everyone know how much I appreciate Wizard's progressive attitude.
No.211047
>>210799
What about Death Wish?
Is the Command Zone considered outside the game?
No.211051
>>211047
No it's not
It only matters at sanctioned events though
No.211175
No.211181
>>211175
>Commander now uses the Vancouver Mulligan
Well, there goes the last good format.
No.211185
>>211181
combo player pls go
No.211186
>>211185
I'm sorry I like to use decks that have cards with a higher converted mana cost than 5.
No.211191
>>211186
so do I and I have no trouble
maybe you should consider running closer to 39 lands instead of crying
No.211205
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>>211191
>Run 39 lands
>Opening hand
>6 lands and one beatstick
>Shuffle shuffle shuffle
>Free mulligan
>1 land, 4,3,5,6,3
>Shuffle Shuffle Shuffle
>First (real) mulligan
>4 cards over three, 1 mana dork artifact, 1 land
>Take hand
>Not draw land after scry
>Lose because tempo of table can't be caught up to in time
or…
>Shuffle shuffle shuffle
>Be happy that the Vancouver Mulligan rule cuts down on shuffling from one session to two because it "saves time on shuffling"
>Probably going to lose because at sever card disadvantage
>Asshat running prison across the table draws perfect hand, making the game unfun for everyone
>Be so happy that I can filter out ONE card from my first turn
Fuck you nigger. Partial Paris at least was an attempt at fixing one of the core problems with the game. First Dual commander shit and now this? At least they're doing something right by keeping the free multiplayer mulligan, but time only knows how far that's going to go.
No.211260
>>211205
>40% of deck is lands
>I'LL GET 6 LANDS IN MY FIRST HAND
>THEN ONLY 1 IN MY FIRST MULLIGAN
Are you brain damaged?
No.211281
>>211260
>He's never been land flooded/screwed
>He's never had a bad mana fix
>He likes sucking WotC's cock and thinks they can do no wrong
Why are you even here?
No.211302
>>211281
>commander rules
>wotc
nigga you stupid?
No.211306
>>200098
>not mythic rarity
No.211312
>>211302
>Implying that the fanon commander community doesn't see a problem with mah standard ruleset
>Implying this new mulligan rule isn't to ease people into Dual Commander so WotC can get shuckles
>"Commander," not EDH
You tell me, retard.
No.211317
>>211312
>duhmuh u r reetar!
>i always get mana flood!
build proper decks
i exclusively play French EDH and I've maybe been mana screwed once in a hundred games
No.211322
>>211317
Yes, I'm sure you've had such an easy time fixing your mono-colored decks for mana. Now if you don't excuse the rest of us, the people who don't spend hundreds of dollars on lands per deck and/or play multiplayer EDH are talking.
>i exclusively play jew EDH
And behold, my prediction is true yet again.
No.211326
hey /tg
/v guy again that keeps dropping in to ask because i got into **dick*atrice
i have no clue about the new set that got released… at least i think there was a release and the few youtube vids i saw said that twin was dead. i've never seen twin as a problem and i have tron like isnot important hates random bystanders.
with this change, i'm convinced that only tron will plague my games from now on…
>playing only modern because everyone says its the most common format
>have mono white life gain deck with soul sisters
>have black green dredge thing
>have mono red elementals thing my favorite but it keeps losing so much holy shit
>have my own version of red blue young pyromancer and the thing that can transform to flying with the deck full of cheap damage
>looking for new decks to make
>interested in making something that make hella tokens because i saw voice of resurgence it it looks cool
don't know what the fuck changed in the new set, can anyone link me to the most easy-to-read/understand post about it?
can anyone suggest decks that won't fizzle to tron?
No.211330
>>170983
>PLAYAN
Precon Ezuri. I just traded my friend my Daretti deck for it, it's actually heavily modified.
>BREWAN
I might build Enchantments Daxos, but Modern is my focus for the mostpart so it's probably not even going to get built.
>HATIN
Meren's a problem, but I'm happy for no more Prophet.
>Who'sthe best mono-black general?
Endrek Sahr.
No.211332
>>211326
>read thread
>EDH is something completely different from modern
goddamnit i can't stop fucking up MTG-related shit.
No.211338
>>211326
I can link you to the catalog. Can you find threads from the catalog, newfag?
No.211339
>>211338
skimmed the catalog, this thread
https://8ch.net/tg/res/210793.html
wasn't around the top section when i looked.
i didn't ctrl+f though so… yeah… that's on me
No.211402
No.211415
>>211322
I play 5c slivers and thraximundar, you buffoon
>rules comitee completely unrelated to wotc
>jew edh
now I'm convinced you're a fucking retard
No.211535
>>211402
Makes up for the new Vancouver mulligan rule.
No.211538
"Rule 4, which governed the color of mana you can create, is stricken from the books. In the past, a Blue deck trying to create Black mana would result in getting colorless mana. This loophole could be used to pay for colorless costs, but the Rules Committee has determined that they don’t want a corner-case rule being used as a loophole by more dedicated players. So Darksteel Ingot can now tap for any color in a Blue deck. If your Blue deck steals an opponent’s creature with a non-Blue activated ability, you can use that ability if you can generate that color mana."
No.211561
>>211538
Did someone say Villainous Wealth + Hedonist's Trove decks?
No.211566
>>211561
villanous wealth doesn't require you to pay though
No.211579
>>211566
I think under the old rules you still couldn't cast spells or use abilities that weren't in your commander's color identity, even through those kinds of effects. You should also be able to play their lands, unless people are going to continue to rules lawyer that shit.
No.211583
>>211538
>If your Blue deck steals an opponent’s creature with a non-Blue activated ability, you can use that ability if you can generate that color mana.
Wow, they didn't even try to hide how they want to abuse this fucktarded rule. I'm so happy though that they kept the flavor intact so that I couldn't use all of the colorless costs in ONE SET!
No.211932
Shoot me some suggestions /tg/
No.211995
>>211932
Black/blue control with a few fatties and lots of hand disruption / reveal
No.212105
Out of pic related who would you run at the helm of an Orzhov colored deck? Ayli has got me to finally buy a shockland so my colors are set, but I'm conflicted. I want them all in the deck but I can't decide who would work best at the wheel.
No.212106
No.212280
>>212105
Ayli, Karlov and good Teysa all work great. Don't bother with the others.
I play Karlov in both Duel and Multiplayer, and he can get really fat really fast.
The three of them do very similar stuff - control the table with their abilities. You just have to pick wether you prefer big lifegan + sac effects, very small incremental lifegain triggers or token swarm.
No.212595
>>212105
Vish Kal and new Teysa really are not worth your time
Like >>212280 said, it's all about preference. For lifegain I'd go Karlov with Ayli and Athreos in the 99. If you decide to go Teysa, I would run Ayli and cut the rest.
No.214947
>>212105
Vish Kal is too fucking expensive to be practical
Ayli is boring, but if you just want to play bog-standard Orzhov control with a slight lifegain and token theme, it works.
Atheros is useless in a game with 3 or more players who start with 40 life.
Old Teysa is basically the same as Ayli, except with more tokens and less lifegain.
New Teysa is pretty expensive and situational. Good for discouraging people to attack you, but that basically means they'll either remove her before slamming you in the face, or just save you for last and kill you in one big hit. Might work for some kind of janky voltron thing though, since she's unblockable, can't be removed by creature abilities, and protects your face. I would not recommend it though.
With Karlov, you have to go all out on the lifegain theme, but if you do he can be very potent as both a commander damage win condition and a potent board controller. Being incredibly cheap is also a huge plus.
No.215567
>>214947
>>212595
>>212280
Well I've now pegged myself into a general theme other than just W/B, and that theme is reanimation.
I've been playing on cockatrice with Vish Kal heading the deck, and while I have pulled off some pretty spectacular stuff (Feeding a Kokusho with Gift of Immortality on him to Vish every turn, or a one swing kill with Vish + Wall of Blood) his high CMC really is a chore to deal with, especially if he gets countered/removed.
I'd think Athreos would be a good leader for reanimation, but whenever I try him out it seems like it's more of a chore because whenever I want something in the yard to reanimate for cheap, it goes to my hand.
I guess I'll try Ayli or Ghost Council of Orzhova for a bit, love them sacrifice outlets, but if it doesn't feel right I'll give Karlov another shot. Just feels like whenever I play him I put a huge target on my forehead from the get go, even if I'm not being aggressive.
No.215631
>>215567
If you want reanimation, your best bet is karador ghost chieftain, but he's wbg.
Your other options are iname death aspect wombo combo, sheoldred and mimeoplasm.
Daretti also kind of reanimates, but only artifacts.
No.216565
recommend me a cheapo EDH deck please
I'm new to magic and it's hard building one
No.216638
>>215567
Chainer, Dementia Master is who I've had the most luck with for reanimator, and the new precon commander, Meren of Clan Nel Toth is pretty crazy as well.
No.216737
>>216565
Zur the Enchanters, Glistening Oil, Unquesitoned Authority, Diplomatic Immunity, Necropotence, Ethereal Armor
The rest are filler and lands
No.216969
I made this deck in a simulator with no experience with EDH. Suggestions for fixing it?
Commander
Odric, Master Tactician
Creatures
Adaptive Automaton
Aegis of the Gods
Archetype of Courage
Ballrush Bannert
Benalish Commander
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Catapult Master
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Crusader of Odric
Daru Warchief
Field Marshal
Goldnight Commander
Hero of Bladehold
King-Captain of Eos
Mentor of the Meek
Mirror Entity
Soldier of the Pantheon
Veteran Armorer
Veteran Armorsmith
Veteran Swordsmith
Artifact
Akroma's Memorial
Caged Sun
Coat of Arms
Door of Destinies
Hedron Archive
Lightning Greaves
Pearl Medallion
Sol Ring
Swiftfoot Boots
Sword of Feast and Famine
Sword of Fire and Ice
Sword of Light and Shadow
Veteran's Armaments
No.216970
>>216969
Other
Banishing Light
Brave the Sands
Captain's Call
Conqeuror's Pledge
Crusade
Elspeth Tirel
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Ghostly Prison
Honor of the Pure
Intangible Virtue
Land Tax
Launch the Fleet
Martial Coup
Mass Calcify
Milita's Pride
Mobilization
Nahiri, the Lithomancer
Nomad' Assembly
Return to Dust
Spear of Heliod
Swords to Plowshares
Lands
Eiganjo Castle
Emeria, the Sky Ruin
Kjeldoran Oupost
Windbrisk Heights
39 Plains
No.217569
>>216737
fair enough, thanks matey
No.218930
>>216969
>Goldnight Commander
>No Cathars' Crusade
No.219758
Cthulhu mill edh (primary deck, been using lazov more since no control decks for wrexial to be effective)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cthulhu-and-his-minions/
shape-shifting edh (I feel dirty for using reaper king)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/we-are-you-and-him/
Incomplete phalanx edh (I like my old abilities, what's the big deal?)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/we-fight-together-1/
No.221469
Anyone have suggestions for artifact/enchantment removal for a sidisi brood tyrant edh? I ran into some problems with opponents playing goblin bombardment, miriai's wake, ashnods altar, etc.
Im running this as my removal package:
Beast within
Counterspell
Maelstrom pulse
Acidic slime
Krosan grip
Reclamation sage
Cyclonic rift(kills tokens dead)
Avatar of woe
I'm heavily considering bane of progress and wave of vitrol, suggestions appreciated.
No.221569
>>221469
Steal Artifact
Karn Liberated
Oblivion Stone
Gate to Phyrexia
Steel Hellkite
Not sure how well it goes in your deck, but animating an opponent's artifact+blacks many removals works.
No.223124
>>221469
bane of progress
creeping corrosion
rebuild
hurkyl's recall
tranquility
n-disk / oblivion stone both are fucking hilarious with glissa the traitor btw
energy flux
all is dust
pernicious deed
that's all that comes to mind right now, but seriously you're best weapon vs artifacts or enchantments is krosan grip. if you can recur that 2 or three times with snapcaster, eternal witness, regrowth or something else, you're basically never going to have a problem you can't fix again
i miss my glissa the traitor deck