/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>199990

>You can play as a hacker AI

ok, that is really fucking cool

>What are your decks?

None, just started playing this. Core set.

>How's your local scene?

Seems to be tiny (Toronto). There's local events 7 days a week for Magic, a lot of weeklies for Yugioh and cardfight vanguard, miniatures games. I've only seen one place that lists a regular event for ANR.

Is jinteki.net good for learning or is it better to know everything first?

>>206929

There's a pretty decent tutorial online IIRC, but learning is better done at an actual table.

Jinteki in particular can be very obtuse, especially with things like recurring credits (they're not used automatically) and cards that activate with weird costs, such as Apex's console or Adam's directives.

>>206472

Honestly the first two things that came to my mind when seeing that card was Andy or Valencia violently exploding into Ian or Whizard.

I normally run shaper and this restricted list is busting my balls. I have no idea what to do for decks anymore. I don't even run boring shit like PPVP Kate, but Clone Chips and Lady offer so much to ever other in faction ID.

For living near FFG, finding events on a regular basis that aren't at the company HQ is all but impossible. Fuck me, I just want to find people to play with!

>>206929

I started out with NBN Tag 'n Bag and Shaper built around running straight at R&D. I'll grab deck lists later, but I had a decent starting deck with just core set cards.

>no one to play with

>read about jinteki.net here

>open it up

>there are hundreds of cards that i know nothing about because i still only have the core set

gonna be fun

>>210297

jinteki.net lets you choose tournament winning decks instead of making you make your own before the game, it's pretty neat if you want to jump in and see what the meta is like

also for decks and stuff netrunnerdb.com

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/12/31/napd-security-upgrades/

Whoa shit they actually fixed the astrotrain. Those are some core cards in the Runner side of the list, though, which makes me think there'll be "nerfed" translation: effectively functional reprints versions of Clone Chip etc. in the Mumbad cycle.

>>210327

I don't think so. They "fixed" the cards by making them effectively cost 1 more influence unless you're playing prof.

Astrotrain was retarded, Eli and Architect were strong as fuck and NAPD was too good of a plan. On the runner side, Clone Chip + Parasite was degenerate as hell, Lady 1H breaks barriers for dirt cheap and you can get extra counters on it with Salvage, Pre-Paid Kate was stupidly powerful (and PPVP in general), and Yog-0 should've always costed 2 inf to begin with. Desperado is literally the only console used in Criminal.

Maybe this shit gives us some variety.

>>209464

Because people explode into different people all the time amirite?

There's all kinds of shit wrong with this card:

>no fluff rationale for what the card does whatsoever, this is a fucking Magic card with wires on it

>only 1 inf and ZERO FUCKING CREDITS

>fucks with identity, which has been one of the few bedrock constants in Netrunner with the only interaction being blanking its ability text

>seriously nigger can you imagine people playing any ID in crim other than Andy Rebirthing into Gabe when this card drops?

>probably a tranny metaphor to appeal to Miss Megaphone and her orbiters

>>210432

>They "fixed" the cards by making them effectively cost 1 more influence unless you're playing prof.

That's what I meant. They "fixed" Astrotrain by making it impractical to run the component cards. If you include the central components to make Astrotrain "work" (3 AstroScript plus 3 SanSan; technically you could get away with 2 or even 1 SanSan but good luck) you're down SIX influence. You'd have to be fucking insane to consider that a good trade.

I have problems with restricting both Clone Chip and Parasite though, since they both have legitimate uses outside of the combo. I may not be that good at this shit but if I had to pick one to restrict it would be Clone Chip because of the fact that you can use it to react to basically anything the Corp does to you and how it can be abused with all trash-after-use programs like Deus X, not just Parasite.

>>211131

Clone chip is extremeley powerful, yes. But Parasite can be recurred with other ways. Déjà Vu can give you two parasites back from your pile. Parasite + Hivemind / Incubator also happens to be pretty fucking stupid.

>What are your decks?

FA NEH with Team Sponsorship and Turtlebacks and a Faust oriented Edward Kim deck

>What are you brewing?

Jesminder Vamp spam with Faust as the main breaker

>Favorite Faction

Corp: HB and NBN. Because I love the faction themes of German engineers building robots and a media conglomerate with a dark and Orwellian side to them.

Runner: Shaper for the fact that they do it just for curiosity and the pride to see if they can do it.

>Hated faction:

None really save for a RP deck. Mostly a disappointment that Criminal is a shit faction for now

Is anyone else shocked that Jackson Howard wasn't on the MWL? It's really hard to come up with reasons not to play him as a 3 of in almost any corp deck.

>>214787

I think putting him on the MWL would hurt the corp side since Noise is such a strong runner and DLR is a prevalent archetype. That and he helps corps that get a shit draw of Agendas so he is a balancing piece.

Wish he was a neutral card instead of a NBN card though.

>>214791

Honestly I think Jesus Howard would still be good enough to play even if he was on the MWL, since his "rez for 0 and RfG to remove agendas from archives just before the Runner would access them" trick has no direct counter thanks to the priority rule.

>>214851

Yeah, but every other faction would be paying 'six' influence for a full playset, and NBN one. That means they are not going to have that much influence to play around with other things. It is not that hard to play against. All you need to do is run him when he is on a open remote to either force the corp to use his ability or let you trash him. And if that is your only form of recursion and all copies are either removed or in the heap, you are either in the late game or you are going to have a rough time.

The main direct counter to him is Hades Fragment, since the timing of it beats Jackson Howard since the player who is going on their turn gets timing priority for their 'paid abilities'.

>>206472

Noob here, to play this would you just grab whatever ID you want from outside the game or would you need the new ID card to be in your actual deck/hand?

>>217470

Huh? You grab it from outside of the game. An ID isn't a legal card to even exist in your deck or hand.

>>214656

Yeah, I'm the one that made the idiot's guide to netrunner. Whoever made this cap forgot the intro decks, though.

>>214787

>>214851

You can't put Jesus Howard on the MWL without printing a semi-decent "archive rescue" and a decent "please god let me draw some cards" alternative first, especially now that NBN is so powerful, since all you're doing is making it impossible for every other corp to splash Howard. And no, Shannon Claire is NOT a decent alternative.

>>222696

I am on board with that, since Jackson Howard serves two big 'HUGE' purposes in the meta-game.

+A huge counter to Noise or getting your Agendas back from a mill.

+Recover from an Agenda-flooded hand when you do not need the agenda.

Unless you were referring to that, then I apologize.

http://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/31636/the-2-armed-ice-feast-1st-place-undefeated-mead-hall-store

Everybody has been running this whizard deck and I have no idea how to counter it. I tried my usual hand at stupid traps bullshit, but it was just to aggressive to care before I could bash their head in for being stupid. Anybody know how to play or build against this?

>>222696

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Putting Howard on the MWL would pretty much destroy every corp deck that isn't Near Earth Hub or SYNC.

Hopefully the Mumbad Cycle gives us decent Howard alternatives.

>>222863

I'm not going to lie, this deck is strong as shit, but you have options.

Spiderweb, Hive, Swordsman, Turing on a central and any multi-subroutine non-sentry ICE with power lower than 5 absolutely destroys this deck (and any other Faust-based runner, for that matter). Also, Checkpoint is absolutely hilarious.

Post MWL, Faust has become the meta. You need to pack answers for it.

>>222969

Did our Winter kit finally, was getting pysched for whizard and just ran Black Tree due to nobody in our meta knowing how to play around it. Not a single one of those decks were there and my only loss all day was to an Adam player running Blackmail with the new current and a few other stupid tools.

So I've been out of the loop since right about a little before the NBN box dropped, has the India cycle dropped since then?

Music for all your server runs

>>200051

>Daniel Bryan

It still hurts.