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I'm not really sure, but it definitely didn't involve pastel cartoon horses. Go kill yourself.

Your face.

>>214207

Nein. Poneshit belongs in the trash.

>>214210

rulecuck

It's as related as this weeb comic that got posted recently.

>>214212

>>214213

>being horsefucker shills

Eat shit.

>>214207

Fuck you, Weaver hasn't been around for years and has NEVER been on 8chan

>>214228

That isn't Weaver, that's Goat Train.

Aren't there a bunch of system and setting conversions for pony stuff?

Fallout Equestria and Don't Rest Your Hooves come to mind. Are there any others?

>>214225

Is that the "it's about ethics in journalism" pipe?

>>214252

There were at least 2 FoE systems, last I checked.

Don't rest your hooves.

Poor Unfortunate Foals.

The Pathfinder remake.

The Unknown Armies conversion (or was it Don't Rest your Hooves?)

The Savage Worlds adaptation.

And probably some I don't know of or forgot about, been some time since I poneponed.

>>214270

I think they also created a number of "systems" for roleplaying in threads that all looked like total clusterfucks.

Who the hell runs a freeform RP on an imageboard?

>>214278

Ye Aulde /tg/

>>214278

http://8ch.net/donut/

Guys…. I wanted to attract attention towards the centipide on a rail road track. Not the apple horse.

>>214366

Well, you fucked up, and now you have to live with that.

If I recall correctly, there's straight up ponyfinder, complete with like, 12 kinds of ponies. I think it also has goats and griffons and shit.

Now that I think about it, now I want to grab it just to see how much of a train wreck it is.

>>214370

You sure are knowledgeable

Not really. I know nothing about what the shit they did systemwise, and I really only know about it from offhand comments from (brony) friends.

They're otherwise decent people though: They ironically avoid chans like the plague -due- to the bronys on chans.

I still want to halfway strangle them when they talk about this shit though. BUT, now by curiosity is sparked, so I think I can ask one for the book.

I get this feeling I'm about to go looking into the abyss.

Well, that was fast.

Who wants a absolutely horrible review of this shit?

>>214378

There are no bronies on chans, only horsefuckers.

>>214386

Noted.

What's the most masturbatory thing you've ever seen?

>>214382

Why is that post so accurate? Holy shit.

NOW

FOR THE REVIEW YOU DID NOT ASK FOR!

I PRESENT TO YOU

THE PONYFINDER REVIEW

I figured I might as well plunge into the abyss anyway.

As for this review, I’ll be doing it in parts. Depending on how well constructed it is (Or the predicted lack thereof) will depend on how much I get to tear this a new asshole. I’m kinda hoping I see screwed up shit so I get to mock the hell out of it.

Now, I WILL be fair however. I will not make shit up just to cause a controversy. I’ll also be skipping over flavor text in the context of the review…unless it’s fucked up. So if it’s ok, I’ll likely skip it.

As such, let’s start.

DEAD LIAR

SEGMENT ONE

So first I open the book to the good’ole table of contents, and it’s made as such.

Preface, Pony creation rules, additional rules, history of everglow, notable places people and groups, plot hooks, pony ingenuity and magic, bestiary, and OGL.

My opinion is that the overall book could be formatted better: Keep the lore to one side and the shit that players are actually interested in on the other. Such as move up the magic and item shit up to chapter 3, rather than additional rules. That move alone could of made it so that people could find what they’re looking for much easier.

After reading this flavor text right after the table of contents, the first thing for some reason that came to my head is “Blah blah blah ponies are the chosen ones.” That’s great. Show me why you’re putting your money on them now. (Let’s see how much they broke shit in half.)

SO, apparently ponies are Fae, and their general stats are…actually relatively reasonable. Aside the fact they can move at 40 speed, have low light vision, get free endurance, a free feet, and are quadrupeds. Wait, that’s kind of a flaw for PCs. But they mention something about fingerless rules. I should just go looking for it to elaborate.

For a second, I was tempted to gig the book immediately until I realized the fingerless thing was on the same page. Good for them! Now let’s go over them…ok so they can still use hands and rings as anklets, magic foot items have to cover all four hooves…seems reasonable, they can use horseshoe items, and doing so occupies the foot slot, which prevents boots and shoes and stuff. Still reasonable. They can wield and use items with their mouth as if their primary hand—

what

They can weild fucking axes. In their mouths.

I don’t know if I should be flipping a table or laughing manically. Perhaps a bit of both. That’s like some ninja dog shit there. Granted, I like to imagine that if they’re doing so, talking can be a pain in the ass, so JOKE ON THE PLAYERS (You spoke in combat, drop your weapon shitlord)

Going on, touch attacks have no mechanical benefit added just because they have a horn or some shit. Which is again, reasonable.

Unarmed attacks are still considered unarmed, so in other words unless otherwise stated they aren’t getting free natural weapons. Ok.

Somatic components? Hoof and horn. Would rage if I didn’t know that druids were a thing. Know what? They can have that one. Let’s move on.

Blah blah blah, pony stuff, but something caught my eye. “Most humans have reservations about four-legged sentient animals.”

+1 points for true statement.

Ok, now alternative racial traits. I’ma just throw out a really quick list unless I see something that will break the game in half.

Pegasus, which gets flying.

Welp, very first one broke the game. You can officially pull bombing runs at level 1.

Unicorns: Free spell-like abilities.

Chaos Hunter: The edgelords of the ponies.

Clockwork: Ever wanted to play a robot pony terminator in pathfinder? Now you completely can!

Doppleganger: Seems like it’s the thing for A: Actual clever roleplayers and B: People who think they are clever. Most people will fall into the latter category.

Gem: They get free AC vs. rays. Seems awfully specific. Also the fact that anything that has likely fought them before would know this fact. “Ok, it’s those gem ponies again? USE THE FIREBALLS!” They also get free pluses vs. fear and despair, so I guess this is one of those subtypes you go if you want to go paladin or something.

Leather Wing: Almost basically flying pony 2.0

Sea Horse: For all your pirating needs.

Zebra: The type of pony that you can be sure that it’s only going to be casters playing it. Than it’s a Zebra, so prepare for nigger jokes.

I’m friggen done for now.

If you’re looking for a ridicious OP campaign I can understand why these asshats went over to pony finder now, because my –god- the shit you get at level 1. Still, it wasn’t completely super horrible, and still better than some shit I’ve seen.

Organization 6/10: It could have been better. When you’re explaining a new mechanic to me, it’ll be nice to explain it to me immediately rather than explaining their society first. Still, it was on the next page, which grants forgiveness. As for the table of contents, the gigs came here. Why would you put the lore stuff right in the middle of the book to split up the player stuff like that? To me, at least, it makes no sense. Either put it all at the start or the end, but don’t split it up.

Writing 7/10: The writing was actually halfway decent. I found nothing really major to choke a motherfucker about, but I think it still could have been better (And perhaps more concise. GET TO THE POINT ALREADY.)

Mechanics 4/10: You manage to break an already broken system even more. No wonder why powergamers love this. Granted, if it’s a high-power game anyway with a smart DM that knows how to fuck players up at every turn I suppose it could be upgraded to a 7/10. Noob GMs likely should NOT start with this though.

Art 7/10: At least I wasn’t staring at cartoonish horses during the portions I read. Thank fucking god. Granted, I do dread to see what people’s characters look like, because I can guarantee they look like shit straight out of MLP instead of a badass warhorse.

Will continue later.

>>214401

I DID not ask for this. I am 100% satisfied with this product.

>>214172

>most creative

>pony pic

Nice bait m8

>>214225

"This is a step in pipe"

The fuck you on about nigger?

>>214439

He forgot the 'ne'.

"C'est ne pas une pipe".

>>214443

Yea except «ne» goes before the verb, never touches pas, and «en» doesn't mean "a".

I know what he's feeding at but he's apparently retarded.

>>214401

>>214402

>>214403

>>214405

Fun fact, the guy responsible for Ponyfinder runs a successful porn game about the furry apocalypse. There's actual lore behind it and everything, which nobody cares about since they'd rather fap than deal with the existential horror of having one's mind slowly rewritten.

>>214458

In the interest of fairness and the awareness of the fact that many successful writers have in fact written smut as it is something that is consistently in demand, I won't burn the book for it.

Unless it's mentioned.

Part two is still coming later. I got things to do.

>>214471

That wasn't really for condemning it, just a random fun fact.

>>214458

Wait, what? This requires explanation…

>>214493

Nanomachines son

>>214401

How much effort would it take /tg/ to invent a new original tabletop game starring magical colored horses?

The cutie/talent mark system especially.

>>214544

I'm definitely going on Patreon man. I'm planning to supply 3d printable stl files for miniatures.

And that is what happens when you forget other boards exist for a reason.

>>214708

go back to niggerschan

>>214538

As far as game design goes? Well, I would give it about….3-5 days, plus some time to polish it out. I'm aware that Disney Villains Victorious is a thing, and that it's actually a pretty damn hardcore game. But that's technically STILL being made.

>>214619

They apparently released a shitton of supplements, just shitting out book after book because bronies would buy them.

I halfway don't blame them. I'll be willing to bet that there are people that would buy water bottles full of piss if you slapped a picture of a pony on the bottle. It's a damn successful business model, and from what I've seen of it right now, it's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. At least, nothing that makes me tear my hair out yet. I'm going to continue the review a tad bit later (shit happened yesterday) so hold on to your hats!

As for the game itself? This seems to give me the vibe of the type of game that I would certainly play for goofy adventures with friends. I would not want to play this with the type of person that is not a well adjusted person that has an obsession with ponies.

Hey, guy that's doing that review here. Just so people can identify me easier, I'm going to start tripfagging, but just for this thread. Also, I'm working on part 2, to wrap up the FIRST CHAPTER. It's by far the longest chapter, so after that I should have chapter 3 done.

Though, keep in mind I know I'll be interrupted, so meh. Give it 2 or 3 hours. That's what I'm hoping for here.

>>214725

A lot of /tg/ homebrew spends forever in development because there's usually about 2 people doing work and about 2 dozen "idea guys" who keep lobbing in new crap.

>>214730

Your autism is much appreciated.

>>214767

I'll give it to him.. His little scenes of horses and griffons hanging out absolutely ooze personality and potential. They're all very lively and detailed and feel like a little snapshot out of a larger story.

Just working on formatting now guys, any time now!

It continues again!

SEGMENT ONE, VERSE TWO

Next up, it brings up…you got it folks! Bloodlines! This is gonna be FUN! But for the sake of making shit short and simple, I’ll summarize it.

Unification: For people who like being the party talker and teleporting fucking everywhere. It seems to cater to several pony types as well. Granted, it’s also still combat capable, so it seems to be a good general all-around bloodline that nobody should really have an issue with. In addition to the normal pony bloodline, you can get a ‘dormant’ bloodline at level 3. Most are…ok. This one caught my eye.

Canines: Gain darkvision 60 feet. Measure time in minutes instead of rounds for allowable amount per day. Wings become leathery.

Holy shit batman! At level THREE!

And at level 13? You can pick up ANOTHER one. Not to mention you can get just a tiny bit of extra spells at level 9, but at least you have to be able to cast them.

The second bloodline is…Vampire. That’s not a joke. Insert Twilight joke here.

The spells they get are pretty useful though, but it’s basically what you would expect of something with a bloodline just like this. A lot of evil stuff, bonus to necromancy school stuff, all in all I can see it being useful, if not scary in the hands of a capable player.

And that’s it for Bloodlines! Let’s move on to…ponies as different classes. Apparently that’s next. Ok. I’ll summarize this again.

Alchemists: “Useful but wtf?”

Barbarians: “we chop u in half with axe in mouth. QUICKLY.”

Bards: Apparently well liked. They almost have rockstar status.

I do feel the need to mention now that for some odd reason, ‘the lack of fingers’ seems to not impede their performance of anything.

Cavaliers: After reading this, I promptly drunk some Parrot Bay coconut rum, because there’s no way I could be sober and take it seriously. Having done so though, now I can. Yes, ponies riding other things. Ponies riding horses. Imagine that. “JESUS CHRIST THE PONIES GOT WARHORSES!” “Hey, I heard you like horses, so I put a horse on your horse so you could horse while you horse.”

Clerics and Oracles: Ok, apparently ponies do divine shit. A lot. For some reason now I’m getting a vision of holier than thou ponies.

Druids: They do that too, and have no issues about rolling with things that might think they’re food if they stop being useful. Kinda like normal druids, really.

Fighters: “SKILLZ EQUAL KILLZ!” Apperently they don’t really use shields often, because, well, they only got one mouth. I would like to note they got an advantage though: They’re quadrupeds. This means they can carry damn heavy stuff. That means you don’t need a particularly high strength score to use heavy armor. For some reason, this part also felt the need to mention that most ponies can be slaughtered by the hundreds because they think that friendship is magic, and that they shouldn’t even bother practicing.

Gunslingers: I took another shot here, but apparently they can do it. Somehow. Let’s go with magic. That sounds like a good excuse.

Monks: The ones that do this learn horse kung-fu. Considering that I think they can get natural weapons? (Not sure on that one yet.) This can be damn scary.

Paladins: Apparently, every horse that has a tattoo branded onto it by some unnatural force wants to be a goddamn paladin. I still think that the monks would be more scary.

Rangers: Go duel-wielding if you’re a pony ranger. You can’t use bows worth shit.

Rogues: They kinda really don’t like them. Go figure though, everyone hates a theif.

Summoners: Apparently they’re ‘shy’ about dealing with extraplaner things. To be fair, most sane things are as well. They exist though.

Witches: Viewed with suspicion, but they do exist. Granted, considering what they are, I would be suspicious too. What the fuck is that horse doing with a cauldron? KILL IT!

Wizards/Sorcerers: This is one of those paths that is highly sought after when it comes to them, and I kinda understand why. You don’t have hands. You need magic to compensate. Therefore, magic becomes superior to swords in all respects, because you can do a bunch of things with magic. Granted, non-unicorn mages are shunned, but who the fuck cares? You know fucking magic!

I’m skipping over the favored class options, because I’m not going to go over the number crunching, but…yeah, they can do some funny shit with their favored class options.

As for Racial Archetypes, they got some…interesting things. Barbarians have Aerial Warrior, which is FLYING BARBARIAN. Then there’s Artifact Tender, a archetype for rogues that focuses on magic item usage. Druids can pick up Elemental Savant, which has Wild Empathy…for ELEMENTALS. Gunslingers get Mobile Cannon, which basically helps with the reload even though they got four legs and no arms. The thing that caught my attention about this one is the fact that they can quite literally have a bigass fuckoff gun. As in, they can use a two-handed firearm one size category larger than they are. It suffers a -5 penalty, but who the fuck cares? You have a big ass gat! As a gunslinger!

Mystic Prancers can pretend they’re Pied the goddamn evil piper, fascinating mooks before leading them where they want them to go. I like to think this is straight off cliffs. Natural Magus can do nifty stuff like reacharge their arcane pool by sacrificing spell-like abilities and hitting shit 30 feet away with their weapon like it’s a ranged attack. Pony Scholars and Scholar of Tribes seem to be for highly specialized builds for wizards. They don’t come across to me as bad, but not especially great either. I’m going to skip over the rest because they seem kinda lame, but I’m fairly sure some of them can lead up to at least some decent builds when one looks at the numbers.

Next up…Evolutions? They put evolutions…before…feats. Yup. They did it. Yeah, alphabetically it makes sense, but not in the context of importance that players look up information. -1 points for organization on this section. As for the evolutions, they MIGHT be doing something awesome, but I never play summonor, so I’m going to be looking at feats instead, as I’m looking for things that are stupid, OP, or well done.

…Advanced Horn Magic: A feat that lets them use two weapons, or a two handed weapon, or a weapon and a shield, because magic. Ok, that’s somewhat practical, but they got to take feats to do it. Monks still best pony class it appears.

The other feats tend to do kind of useful stuff, like giving DR or —

Cloud Embraced: You gain the Cloud Walker racial trait, allowing you to treat fog, mist and clouds as solid and to qualify for feats that require cloud walker.

In other words, my GOD can you be a goddamn menace in combat.

Also, yup, they can get natural attacks. It costs a feat, but it’ll be well used if they’re a monk. Monk master class for ponies.

…My bad. They can get three. So they can get a bite and two hoof attacks, AND get special attacks that capitalize on these. What did I say?

I also see Natural Lance here, which basically lets them use their horns as lances. If they got a gore attack, which I’m going to assume they can pick up. My god, THE HORROR OF THESE CHARGE ATTACKS.

TLDR of the feats: They can become fucking ridiculous.

Moving on to the NEXT section: The other races. Yes. You DON’T HAVE TO PLAY A PONY!

Cloven: Goats. Kinda ok. They get a free gore attack. They apparently try to act neutral all the time.

Flutterpony: Basically just another kind of pony, except they’re rainbow colored and the people who would play them are either gay or awesome. (It is possible to be both, folks!)

Griffons: Prideful assholes. Dicks should play griffons apparently. Also, they can use their talons as hands, which makes them just about superior to ponies in nearly all respects.

Phoenix Wolf: For the people who want to play a doge. They eat ash, not ponies. I can see some builds being good with them, but not many. However, if it’s a game that involves plenty of fire, than I can see them being useful.

Purrsians: Cats with wings. Let’s just keep it at that.

Steelheart: If ponies built a Warforged, this would be them. Basically robot ponies.

Sun cats: Cats WITHOUT wings.

So yes, basically, griffons are the best race confirmed because they don’t have to take feats just to wield a two handed weapon and be able to talk in combat.

Now, for the gods bit, which is next, I’m going to skip over this purely for the reason that I intend to return to it later. I’m also going to skip the sports stuff and move right on to optional rules.

The first is Type Advantage Neutralization, which this is a fair rule, because most spells in Pathfinder assume that the players and the asshats they’re dealing with are humanoid. This may not be the case, so it suggests giving everglow races (AKA those listed above, including ponies) a humanoid subtype, but give them +1 to saves against them. Kinda fair really, otherwise there goes some of the great spells.

The second is Realistic Deficiencies, aka can’t wield shit in mouth, they DO get a hoof attack, and holding shit in their mouth while trying to cast increases spell failure chance by 20%. I approve of this completely. 10/10 if using these rules.

The third is Relaxed Physics, which is basically if you want to go right in the other direction and throw being remotely realistic out the window. Basically, they can’t hold shit in their mouth, but they CAN wield them in their…well, hooves, and fingerless characters (Which is most of the races save griffons) are considered bipedal. This seems like the furry option.

Organization: 7/10 Yes, organizing things by letter is sometimes friggen stupid, but I noted that they had the feats for the other races listed in their race section. This is actually a good call on their part in my opinion.

Writing: 6/10: Aside for the obviously strange shit, they aren’t shoving pathfinder into ponyfinder: They’re kinda trying to gently nudge ponyfinder into pathfinder. This works. Kind of. I have to give them points for trying, but not putting in TOO much effort. Honestly they were about to earn a 7 here.

Mechanics: 4/10|8/10 Why the split score? Well, if you’re a massive grog, you’re going to fucking hate Ponyfinder. It gives players way too many options to be absolutely badass animals very early on. However, if you don’t mind players powergaming their hearts out because you know how to use that thing called tactics on the board, and aren’t an absolute retard, you’ll be fine. Because obviously in Everglow, this shit is –common-.

Art: 6/10: Many of the pieces looked good, but a few looked sort of stupid in my opinion. Considering the art though, they likely paid a lot for it, so it’s no wonder they used it anyway. Nothing absolutely awesome though.

WHEW! My fucking god this shit takes a while. Do keep in mind that this information is summarized and by all means not the super complete deal: I just skip over things because no, no I'm not going to explain EVERY SINGLE FEAT in detail. Just the shit that sticks out to me.

>>214660

Last Griffon/Gryphon/Gryffin thread were most of us agreed they are they gayest creature evarh!

>>202530

Alright. I want to see just what all of you want from this BS review I'm doing. Are all of you more interested in mechanics, or lore shit? Or all of it?

>>214831

All of it, myself.

Ok, as I said before, I’m going to do gods in a separate one, mostly because of the fact that they should really deserve their own section. As such, I will summarize again.

Blaze: Some raging fire pony god that’s always angry, and everyone debates who he/she/it really is. That’s because some think she’s actually a different god when going hulk-mad angry (I’ll get to the one that some think they are) while some of the non-pony races swear that it’s a he. So nobody knows dick about this god except for the fact that it has one hell of a temper. Is chaotic evil.

Kara: The shapeshifter bitch. Is some lying cunt that manipulates others into doing what the shit she wants. Mostly dopplegangers and asshat shapeshifters worship her, nevermind the fact that she’s likely just playing them like a fiddle. It takes one to know one, and you would think that evil assholes, of all mooks, would know this. (This is why I don’t generally support evil gods working with evil mooks. Yes, evil gods who aren’t –obviously- evil work, but evil assholes tend to not like evil assholes for a reason. Granted, this IS fantasy, and we do know that many assholes are fucking stupid, so…) Is neutral evil. Also apparently easy to get a visitation from because she LOVES talking to others! Because the results of her talking to others GO SO WELL. (For her.)

Moon Princess: Somehow a benevolent god of the night, and does all sorts of protecty stuff for communities and shit. I’d like to speculate that if the gods had a batman, or rather, batgirl in this setting, this would be her. Apparently shows up only during full moons or though. LN.

Princess Luminace: Apparently managed to become a god via the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP. Is also a massive nerd. Has no issues with taking worshippers from other races. Doesn’t really show up much at least in public. LG.

Sheila the Author: The only human god in this setting. Just reading this just makes me think that this is supposed to be some sort of strange pug. This right here seems to break the entire god thing going on, though if I recall correctly I do think there was a kickstarter campaign for this, though I don’t know the details of just what got added in due to people throwing money at it. Perhaps it’s someone’s self-insertion or something. Granted, it’s surprising they would put in anything even remotely human when this is supposed to be about ponies.

Sun Queen: Apparently the big honcho god that has all the ponies flapping to her, hence her name. Again, though, she has this whole ‘nobody quite knows what the fuck’ thing going on, because the sun cats seem to think that the Sun Queen is actually some sort of perfect alpha male. What is clear though is that she’s Neutral Good, but a prankster. Which works. Kinda. You would think that it would be damn clear of who she is though, considering she likes making one hell of an entrance when she does come down from on high. Some also think she’s Blaze when she goes into Hulk mode.

The Night Mare: The –other- bat pony, but is evil and shit. Has a hate-boner for weakness. Seems to be the type of god to throw you in a shitty situation and tell you to figure the shit out on your own if you want any sort of help from her. Unlike many of the other ambiguous gods, they DO know that the two night pony gods that would be batman are completely separate entities. Only shows up when someone does something really fucking badass through their own merit. Lawful Evil.

Unspoken: Basically, Discord. Just a disruptive asshole in general. Sows confusion and shit everywhere. Doesn’t have many worshippers, but those that do are really not liked. Does not seem to be an entirely bad dude though, but if he shows up shit gets weird and he answers questions in riddles, basically ensuring that some barbarian would want to hit him with an axe. Chaotic Neutral.

That basically wraps up the gods. My general impression is that most of them are actually written somewhat decently: If you remove all the pony and stuff from them, they would certainly be passable in other settings. The thing I would like to note though: The god that seemed to break their entire theme first. Ok, we get it, the ponies have gods, most of which are ponies, one of which is some…I don’t even know what the fuck it is. But then there’s the one that’s a blatant human right in the middle of it. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be the setting’s version of Ao, but that god being there just didn’t sit right with me. In other settings, yes. Granted, it did state that yeah, she doesn’t visit the mortal realm, so at least you don’t have to shoehorn her into games, as she seems to be the string-puller.

Granted, you would also think that they wouldn’t make multiple gods of the same goddamn thing. No, the sun does NOT need 4 different goddamn gods damnit!

Section Rating: 6/10 multiple gods of almost the same goddamn thing. Then again, I don’t know a whole bunch about MLP in general.

>>214544

Yeah, he attaches his name to both things.

I dunno, I just find some parts of it interesting. Like how during the first few days apparently the nanomachines in select locations thought fresh corpses were perfectly healthy human bodies, and so anyone who tried to off themselves to escape the horror became a zombie.

>>214544

…

I've gotten paid less to do actual corporate projects.

>Text-based adventure game

…

seriously?

If one were to make such a game, how and where does one advertise it?

I need to cash in on the furry autism bucks, and I think I could do a bit better than text-based adventure games.

>>214966

Porn boards like /d/ mostly.

>>214966

You could always do the furry apocalypse roguelike. Furries get their porn and nonfurries get to purge.

I apologize for the wait, I had a lot of things and politicking to do in some RP games yesterday.

At any rate, I'll see what I can do continuing this.

>>214966

Are you sure you want to think like a furry? I'm a draftsman that's into anthro stuff big time and hell I don't want to.

Ok, let’s once again, do an abbreviated version. This time, in greentext!

>First there was chaos

>Than there were ponies

>And they spread

>And evolved.

>But split into tribes

>Supposedly peace-loving ponies started killing the shit out of each other

>Some were still halfway sane and decided to make pony-america

>wtf ponies

Than then proceeded to beat the shit out of some tribe of pony necromancers, which basically sealed the deal. And after that they discovered the dwarves (Or rather, the dwarves discovered them.) and started cutting deals with them. Go figure.

They also have factions in this book, which I will now go over.

Seekers of the One Herd: They travel from place to place to establish contacts among different tribes. While they seem to be friggen everywhere, they apparently aren’t trusted likely because they act like a bunch of politicians, which they pretty much are. The good news is that you’re free to go nearly anywhere you damn well please.

Imperialists: Pony stormtroopers. Enough said.

Random fucking adventurers: You do what the fuck you want, but if you get into shit you better get yourselves out of it.

Ok, now here’s some Era alternatives. The first is ultradestined, while the second is ghost pony stuff. It seems kinda dry to me really, like they were reaching for shit to do in this era aside for fight everything, which is what pathfinder players do anyway. If you aren’t a murderhobo, you’re not doing it right.

And….now they got another era? Ok, so they kind of split up the history here, but I see CLEARLY what they are doing. They’re trying to separate the lore into several eras, so they’re actually giving you different timeframes to play within. I’ll have to give them a point for organization for this one.

The second era is basically ponymerica at the height of its power, and they start coming into contact with many of the other races as well. They’re (For the most part) unified under a single leader and are an actual force to be reckoned with at this point of time. Basically, they’re race relations are “If you can do something for us, than we like you.”

The major factions here seem to be variants to those in the first era. The Seekers are basically the Seekers of the One Herd, with almost the same advantages and disadvantages, while the Unbound Hooves are basically a group of ponies that don’t agree with the Queen and decided to go do what the fuck they want to.

Of course, the problem with leaders is that they too eventually died, which is what happened to the Queen. As we all know, this is when shit hits the fan. There was a civil war, and basically the ponies went right back to behaving like tribal fucks. Trick is, this time now there were a bunch of other races all around them grabbing for their territory. Predictably, the Seekers of the One Herd flew right back into action, adapting their old name and are trying to jumpstart the empire again, not realizing that it had been on life support the entire time due to the Queen. Strangely enough, this is the only faction listed in that section: Would have been nice if they could of squeezed in another one.

As for the writing, I’ll say it was good and that I didn’t catch any grammar mistakes, but what I will say that considering things they said before, some things don’t make a bunch of sense, such as the ponies being violent jackasses at times. Otherwise decent if you ignore the fact that it’s ponies. 6/10

I do have to note that for this section, how it was organized was MUCH better. Splitting things up like that works pretty well in sections like that, but for other things not so well. Remember this if you decide to make a PDF for anything really.

>>214207

I can only assume they're referencing first or second edition grapple rules.

Pathfinder's grapple rules is a two-page flowchart.

/r/equesting the magic centipide on a railroad track without the pony on it. Add a wizard cap with stars and moon instead(plus a clean one without anything on it)

>>215356

If he went absolutely full furry the game wouldn't even be popular since that would involve too many fetishes. Everyone would be scared off in case they found something they didn't wanna see.

All he has to do is stick to one of the larger umbrella fetishes like transformation or vore.

>>215388

CoC worked pretty okay, and it's coated in a shitton of fetishes.

But otherwise, yeah, you gotta appeal to the lowest common denominator.

>>215388

Dude. Furry IS a fetish. Furry fetishes are simply fetishes within a fetish. "vore", "macro", and other shit, exists separately, but are often accompanying, the fact that you gotta bang animals.

I think, it's rather complex, and none of us may know what's really what, but "furry", is to me a sort of "sexual environment", in which their creepiness will be much bolder. It's like if it's normalizing sexuality, it's not seen as tabboo anywhere anymore, and so they go completely retarded and announce everyone around them that they're all about dat anal vore and the more they spend their time "living" as a furry instead of a complete person the more they put furry into other stuff and the more normal it is to them to be all about fetishes all the time everywhere.

Do you understand or…

>>215390

While that's true that it has a whole bunch, it started with a solid base with just TFfaggotry and drifted in those directions as it was updated.

>>215393

Furry is more of a fetish adjective with how you have a furry version of literally everything.

Also, the whole living vicariously though the fursona thing is just escapism at it's finest. There's a whole place on the internet where you can have escapism AND use it to your social advantage. Why WOULDN'T lonely/damaged people flock to that shit in droves?

Then they walk into the porn closet, get desensitized to it from the constant bombardment, and start having in depth discussions about the inner workings of their favorite kinks.

>>215393

>the fact that you gotta bang animals.

Eeeeh, that isn't really fair. For one thing, most western furshit are just humans in everything but face and skincolor.

Especially the personality and so on. Western furshit tends to be fur covered humans, in that regard, as well.

Those that go further on it, to the relm of fursuits, even, tend to still be just humans in all but appearance. Somewhat funny, to me. It's a human, pretending to be a fur-covered human.

Of course, you also have the really rare even further guys what want to be an actual animal, and want to fuck said animals. But those, you ask me, are major outliers.

>>215399

>For one thing, most western furshit are just humans in everything but face and skincolor.

Pretty much. You have the "snout or get out" rule, but that's it. A lot of the art has shit that just looks like colored plastic, with a couple obvious spots for "tufts" of fur so the artist can pretend they aren't actually lazy.

There's another pony series coming up called Filly Funtasia.

This one supposedly has more lore in it and a much more interesting setting full of floating islands, fairy(elf) ponies, royal ponies, castle academies teaching magic, magical events not controlled by the horses.

Funtasia one has a much more magical-focused setting compared to MLP's medieval redneck setting in Ponyville where they take care of animals and sow the lands for crops. Where the Everfree is an ugly swamp forest where niggers(zebras) live.

ALMOST DONE

After this post, there will be one final section, which is a bestiary. Yes. They have their own monsters.

But for now? MAGICAL STUFFS!

Most of their racial equipment seems to be things that help make up for their lack of hands, because if they didn’t have that stuff, they would suck hard. For example, people who are going to be investing in unarmed/natural attacks may want to get and enchant Striking Horseshoes, gunslingers should pick up a Saddle Rack, etc. Basically it helps compensate for their lack of hands.

As for the magic items, it basically seals the deal that the ponies have a hardon for hating chaos. As for the other things though, the Flight Apple can let you fly for five minutes at a low low price of 750 GP. (There are better ways to run the fuck away folks, like tunneling.) and items that grant the user spells that will be discussed…now.

There are a good amount of…well, spells that MLP people would like way too much, like Blast of Harmony, which is basically Order’s Wrath, except for the fact that it’s also affected by a particular item. And only ponies can cast it. But moving on to the more practical things, Helping Hand lets the pony use two-handed stuff including bows, and Human Way turns them into a furfaggot fully capable of doing things like duelweilding. Those two spells. Those two spells are going to be the most important spells you can ever learn in this setting. Because not having hands is a horrible thing and cramps your options, no matter how much of a combat monster you may be. There are other spells, but in order of priority, none of them are as important as those two spells.

Yeah, it was a pretty damn short section.

Tell yall what. I just might do their griffon expansion as well as people were mentioning it. considering that I can get my hands on that book as well. Should I?

>>215872

I like griffons, and so far your posts are interesting.

Do iiiit

>>215509

>3d animation

Dropped

We could make a rule set for a socialist tabletop game with an outpost vs environment dynamic.

>>215872

Fuck yes, you should.

We want (maybe) delicious griffon goodness.

Ok, so I admit, XCOM 2 has been distracting me. I promise you I'm working on the last part of the ponyshit now.

Having looked through the bestiary, I can say that…about one or two of the monsters seem retarded, and the others seem ok. By far though, one monster out of all of these takes the cake as far as it goes with fucking with the PCs. That monster is known as the Unfulfilled.

You can completely use it as a normal enemy to stab the shit out of. Where it takes the cake though, is its ability to possess ponys. You see, an unfulfilled is basically a pony ghost that posseses a pony, and replaces it’s mark of destiny with the one that it had in life. The amount of mindfucking one could pull to a group of PCs with this can be…spectacular.

“I thought your mark of destiny was a bigass gun, not a powderkeg.” “Oh….yeah, it’s totally a powderkeg bro!”

“Anyone else notice gunpony acting kinda odd?” “Well, he’s always been odd, so…”

If you have an actual good player doing this and helping you out with this one, with their changed destiny and all because they’re actually possessed, one could certainly cause a detour to happen. Or a massive clusterfuck.

That being said, it’s time to rate the book overall.

Art: 7/10 The book had some damn decent art that didn’t look halfway retarded. A few pieces seemed awkward, but considering ponies aren’t my thing, it was actually pretty well done. Also the fact that the art was not super blantent MLP art. You paying attention bronies? Ponyfinder art does NOT look like MLP art.

Mechanics: ?/? This shit is broken in so many beautiful ways I don’t know where to start. From spells that minimize any disadvantage you may have had from deciding to play a pony to builds that can land you with too many natural weapons at a relatively low level, once you figure out how to break something, which it’s not hard, you’re gonna be having too much fun figuring out all the other ways to break the game. GMs, I hope you’re either damn good at tactics or ready to throw particularly nasty motherfuckers at the PCs, because if they know what they’re doing with their builds they’re gonna be making some bullshit builds.

Organization: 6/10 While some sections are organized VERY WELL, other sections, that should be organized via priority, aren’t so much. It’s typically small things, but it’s small things I’ve noticed and always bugged me. Most people are looking at feats, not summoner evolutions for example, so just why would you put them in front of the feats?

Writing: 6/10 Ok, so the book was made by someone who is indeed a competent writer, but so many things just seemed to continuously contradict themselves. Like the whole ponies being peaceloving the first moment than promptly going apeshit and slaughtering each other. Then again, even more retarded shit has happened IRL. I still couldn’t read some of that shit though without internally cringing, so yeah. 6/10. However, I would like to say that I have seen much, much worse, so that’s why it gets a six.

T-T-T-THAT’S ALL FOLKS!

If I do griffons, I think I’ll do it in the griffon thread.

>>215385

MS Paint Da Vincis… get to it.

>>215390

CoC didn't work well, it's not supposed to be unwinnable. Most of the content in that game is allegedly SIDE-CONTENT, but in reality the side-content ended up constituting most of the game.

>>216950

But it worked out pretty well, and is pretty popular despite the huge array of fetishes in it.

Is it unfinished? Yes. Do a lot of storylines go nowhere? Yes. Is the game pretty much "Dick around in dickworld"? Yeah.

But that don't mean it didn't work.

>>216269

Thanks mate, was an interesting read.

The setting ain't my cup of tea, but it does seem like one I would try.

Once.

With non-bronies.

Griffon master race.

>>217066

I did a Griffin RP once with some friends. The Donkeys were apparently having a civil war, and we were apart of a Volunteer Brigade (the Legion Condor), beating up Donk terrorists and Villistas led by a Griffin version of Pancho Villa. Then there was the Ape Lincoln Brigade. A weird game that anthromophised both the Mexican Civil War and the Spanish Civil War, but a fun one never the less.

>>217128

Same actually, except I was a Psionic Griffon and my friend tried to put in some cringey but fair backstory edits on how Psionics was how Griffons became equals to Unicorns or some shit like that. Bonus points because there was a Lovecraftian cult dedicated to resurrecting Sombra.

>>217280

Well, I've dived into the griffon book some already, apparently in the -setting- they're more like the mercenary type. They seem to be a bit too fragmented, and the fact they don't seem to have any sort of ambition of conquest like that. (Though the other races around apparently don't want to get on the bad side of a griffon.) Granted, there's nothing saying you can't make that a campaign. If anything, my question is if they -did- want to kick the shit out the ponies, could they? They would at the very least be able to cause a damn lot of damage.

That being said, I've already started the review of it in the griffon thread.

>>217281

I'm thinking that the griffons probably don't have their own lands, so are part of the pony kingdoms. A party of splinter griffon terrorist types who demand their own country to reinstall griffon kingdoms of ancient days long past.

But, yeah, from my brief runins with the show, it seems like griffons are loners living in pony equivilent of slaviklands long collapsed civs that even in their prime weren't really that prime.

Still.

…Kinda? Some did decide to go live with the ponies on their own free will.

As for their society it seems more like they live in groups of tribes.

But yes, a group of splinter griffon terrorists that want their own country and want to restart their glory days is completely possible in this setting it seems. The issues would vary from era to era though. Easy mode is before the pony kingdom pops up, moderate is after it falls, and hard is while it's active and strong.

>>217280

The show's griffon lore sort of gave me a "once-proud master race" sort of impression and I think it's a cool idea to build on that.

>>217280

The show's griffon lore sort of gave me a "once-proud master race" sort of impression and I think it's a cool idea to build on that.

In this? Not quite a once-proud master race thing, they're still quite proud, they just never really got the idea to take everything over.

…it would also seem that the first war -ever- was between them and the purrsians, who hired human mercs to go try to wreck their shit. The griffons won at the end apparently though.

Also, the griffons bitched the cloven into their kingdom without even trying.

>>217289

>But yes, a group of splinter griffon terrorists that want their own country and want to restart their glory days

Sounds like the premise for a fucking awesome campaign.

Rising an empire out of isolated dissidents, uniting a proud people together once again and carving a new power onto the land through wing and claw.

Would play.

Continuing to read this, yeah. It's actually canon in at least one instance that there's a group that does want to take over the pony lands.

The campaign itself could be damn awesome, because while you're dealing with splinter groups that have the same idea but completely different ideologies behind it, you're also dealing with other races that want to take their shit as well. (Especially if the campaign is at the fall of their empire.)

>>217429

Yeah. A lot of groups won't touch it due to it's autistic nature, and those that will usually have one of -those- guys, or more, in the group. So the problem really is finding sane people to play with.

Unless you're deliberately trying to get more stories to entertain us with.

>>217454

Pretty much. I mean, even if you get someone interested who isn't a total autist, it can be assumed they're more in it for the show stuff, and so would rather ponies than griffons.

And then, even those are already rare anyway.

So it'll probably never happen. Oh well. Would've been fun. I like griffons.

>>217456

Yup. Many people have trouble seperating "The show" from "The (or a) game." I get the feeling that the setting presented in the game is most defiantly NOT the show setting, though it is apparently inspired by.

So unless you're with a group of rad people who think griffons are cool or at least willing to come along for that ride, good luck convincing anyone without looking like a massive autist yourself.

The setting itself is not bad, it's just…well, slightly out there. But there are most certainly stranger settings, and all things considering, they do have 'super realistic' rules, so yeah.

>>>/mlphate/

>>>/eqd/

>>>/fim/

Fuck I wish I could have managed to make my own horse fanbase without the cancer back in 2012.

I have always theorized that it's always the crazy parts of a community that ruin shit for everyone else online. I am still looking for proof to my hypothesis however.

>>218061

I'd say it is probably true. I'd also throw in the more accepting the community, the quicker those autists will destroy it.

If MLP's community didn't have that shitty "love and tolerate" motto, they'd've probably got a lot farther.

>>218124

There's about 7 more reasons why it all went to shit.

But I'll post it in a pastebin so I don't look like a textwall autist that has no idea how to order and structure his points correctly.

http://pastebin.com/kXNkDWuw

>>218175

You forgot the part where it was basically a slice of life which means it was attracting the WORST kind of animetard.

Have I known actual cool bronies? Yes. But those are…pretty fucking few and far between, and they are usually autists in some way. Generally pretty alright people though if their autism isn't set off.

Which is why I would completely play the ponyfinder setting.

But only with cool people that don't give a shit about the show and won't try to shoehorn the show in, because I've never watched that shit. And I don't really give a shit about it: When I play something like that, I really just want some good laughs while doing stupid shit as some sort of quadrupedal badass while also getting drunk.

>>218175

I've seen the brony fanbase destroy so many's people's shit online it's not funny. The funny part is the fact that they're typically the ones wrecking their own shit.

>>218191

The shounen animefags would have been good. Princess Luna wouldn't be seen as the weak one just because she's younger and smaller.

If anything that would have made her stronger and more authorative than her sister. The smaller they are, the more power they hide.

Remember the cliche in shounen where every twin brother is a rival with matching powers and they are sworn enemies for life? I've never seen that out of the brony fanbase. Celestia is this dumb jokester, molester, troll. While Luna was never popular to begin with because she only appeared for 20 seconds in the show before Hasbro screwed her design too.

Professional Tiny Horse RPG guy here.

The MLP setting is…well, it's kind of a clusterfuck. There isn't a lot of actual lore to go on. All we know is that:

>Most everything happens in 1000-year periods

>Celly and Luna drove off a bunch of assholes

>Luna got whiny and Celly decided to b& her sister; everyone immediately regretted this decision

>Just about every single "ancient legend" or "fairy tale" is an accurate account of what actually happened, right down to a group of elementary-school-age fillies being able to recreate a love potion from a story

>technology is kinda funky

I've filled in the gaps in places for my own take on the setting, which I have shared with a few other autists.

Most notably:

>Technology is significantly more advanced than it is shown in the show. Computers and firearms exist, and even some 15-minutes-into-the-future shit like AI and power armor is available (though only to people who know where to look for it)

>Events that have an implied connection to the human world have a much larger amount of >implying–for instance, strong parallels are drawn between the changeling attack in Season 2 and 9/11

>events from the human world that don't have a pony analogue? Now they do. A friend of mine has played a veteran of the Vietneigh War.

>The main characters of the show are in a sort of Power Rangers role; they're the public face of super-hero-ing. There are things they don't know about, and things that they haven't had a hoof in fighting, mostly because Celestia doesn't want everyone to panic.

>>2182237

Would work as a multiplayer if you got some video and game together with that tabletop.

The digital medium is better off for objectivity and keeping track of stats.

>>216137

How would the friendship system work?

>>218196

I watched it. Used to be a fan, up until it got really predictable, and was obvious the story wasn't going anywhere.

Did watch that one season finale with the bug shapeshifter lady, though, but that's far as I've gone.

Oh, and the griffon episode, I guess. Don't really count that, because it was shit. Made griffons greedy kikes while already having greedy kikes, the dragons, existing. Complete rubbish. Should've made them a bunch of pride fags who couldn't accept help from anyone and were quick to take an insult, and generally picked fights. As in, like the first griffon we saw. Would've literally had the exact same damn story, so you wouldn't need to change much of anything.

>>218223

The tech divide stuff would actually be rather interesting. You've got a setting where you can reasonably field shield-baring paladins right along side AI controlled tanks, with a napoleonic artillery brigade thrown in the middle.

Does it make sense? Hell no. Nothing you could ever say or do will ever make that shit make sense. But it would be cool, I guess.

balancing would be an issue though.

>>218362

>Did watch that one season finale with the bug shapeshifter lady, though, but that's far as I've gone.

You left at the best moment, everything went to shit after that

>>218369

Yeah, I kind of got that impression afterwards. Especially with the mentioned griffon episode.

I think part of the reason, though, so many people stuck around was because of the large cult following behind it. After a while, I guess you've got enough fan shit that the show takes a back seat.

Case and point, the Ponyfinder shit.

>>218362

Given that magic exists, it's pretty easy to balance as a rock-paper-scissors thing.

Magic is pretty good at handling projectiles, which are killer at defeating melee-oriented fighters, who can take down mages easily. TL;DR: The slow blade penetrates the unicorn's shield.

I've spent an embarrassingly large amount of time on horse shit. It can be very interesting. A friend of mine runs a not-Shadowrun game in horseland; he says that, at the end of the day, it's easier for everyone to step back and laugh at the whole thing, 'cuz it's all a bunch of cartoon horses. Lonestar's highest-ranked officer can burn a party member alive and eat him, but everyone can chill after that, because one look at their character portrait and they remember that it's all fictional cyberpunk pastel horses.

>>218473

I can dig it. Runescape style. Not necessarily realistic, but who cares, it works damn well.

>>218475

Anyway, most of what I do is riffing off of the show with the general theme of "If I were pitching this directly at 20-somethings, what would I do?".

Which means action, adventure, drama, and the occasional universe-hopping gunrunning gang.

>>218506

>>218473

As far as straight up silly ponyfinder games, I can completely imagine a Archer ponyfinder game that's just sillyness. Or Metal Gear.

"The HELLO GEARS are powered by FRIENDSHIP! We must stop them before they fire the hug missiles and doom the world!"

>>218520

…I think I was actually part of a game where a rogue AI fired all the nukes into space.

And then it fell apart because the GM was a faggot.

>>218520

Archer as in the show? Because I would pay to see that shit. Sounds absolutely hilarious.

>>218566

That Not-Shadowrun game I mentioned earlier actually had some parallels to Archer. One of the groups was filled with accidental clones.

There was the asshole probably-psychotic but hilariously-effective leader, his levelheaded second-in-command (who actually was a male griffon until an unfortunate incident involving a shotgun-wielding robot), a talky character who turned out to be surprisingly badass, and even a mechanically-inclined pervert with a "party van".

>>218674

Ha! Sounds absolutely amazing.

I've been having an itch for more Archer-type characters, lately. Not exactly sure how to pull it off. Just massive amounts of luck, a decent bit of skill, no common sense, and a lot of ammo autism I guess.

Which is something that many people don't get.

Speaking of assholes with a purpose, we have a guy that is by far one the most assholic people in our gaming group. If this guy was a secret agent rather than being in the Navy (fag) I'm convinced he would basically be Archer incarnate. Know how many villians monologue?

He's done some absolutely insult-riddled monologues right back at them, and it was funny enough to even make the GM laugh.

Despite being an asshole, he's still This Guy, and is always willing to help out with people.

At any rate…

BASIC RULES FOR ARCHER/MGS/WHATEVER ELSE, THE PONYFAG GAME. (Because I just had to do that.)

Almost any class allowed, but you start at level one.

No brands of destiny, because BLACKOPS, and tats can give away who you are.

Stats are rolled for via 2d4+10, because everyone is fucking amazing.

>>218762

For a Pathfinder/D&D campaign, yeah?

I'm not sure I'd use Pathfinder, though. Or Ponyfinder. They feel a bit complicated.

>>219009

Pathfinder/Ponyfinder are basically the same setting, and it's…kinda complicated until you learn the system. Then it becomes almost second nature.

>>219658

In theory, many.

But Ponyfinder, as the name slightly suggests, was made to be used with Pathfinder. I would not be surprised if there were other things floating around out there though.

We really need a custom made tabletop system for these dumb horse pixies which isn't Pathfinder.

>>220243

There's already a couple, but how would you do it?

>>220289

I believe it was supposed to be ironic

>>220243

Honestly, I feel sorry for anyone who thinks Pathfinder is their only option, but history keeps repeating itself and people never learn from the mistake that you can't ever fully fix D&D 3.5

>>220289

Yes, we know. Creativity can't be without being peer approved.

>>220243

Let's gather our top elfs and dwarves and put the magic into motion.

>>215385

And somebody get that damn horse off the centipide already.

>>221221

>>220243

Ok, horsefucker expert from >>218223 here.

There's a few key things to remember in ponyland.

Firstly, magic is tied to relationships. Basically, everyone's a bard (and the people who cast Edgy Magic are sort of anti-bards). Your magical power scales with the strength of your relationships with the party. This is nigh-impossible to represent in game mechanics, so you'll probably just have to scale spells/feats by number of ____s in your party. Change the blank to whatever fits for balance and theme, i.e., abilities pertaining to studying things scale up with the number of unicorns in your party, abilities for negotiation scale based on how many different kinds of horse you have in your party, et cetera.

Secondly, let's just get this out of the way: Ponies hold things with magic. If they're unicorns, they can do telekinesis (maybe give them a bonus to whatever the DEX score is), other pones have a limited-range TK spell on their hooves that lets them "grip" things without fingers. Why? Because I'm not gonna sit here and try to figure out how the horses in Not-Indiana-Jones were able to use bows and arrows and spears.

Third, cutie marks. Basically, it's weapon proficiency, except for ANYTHING. Your horse's butt tattoo represents what they are good at, what they are meant to do, what they were always meant to do. They discover it around the time they hit horse puberty, near as we can tell. This means that some characters on the younger end of the age range for horses will not have this one yet. It is entirely possible to have a small horse that is adult and does not have a buttmark, but he'll probably be really fuckin' depressed. Further, it is also possible for a tiny horse to completely misinterpret their assmark, even though there was an entire song and dance number in which it was implied that the buttmark speaks to them(!?). Yeah, pony canon is fucked.

>>221242

>This is nigh-impossible to represent in game mechanics

>nigh

>not neigh

>impossible

You lack creativity, Anon.

For a half-assed example, let us consider Friendship Points (or FPs, for short).

Whenever you further you friendship with any PC or NPC, you get +1 FP (per Session).

Whenever you make a friend, you get +2 FP.

More grandiose friendship powered things - like, for example, making a friend out of an old enemy or making a friend out of a villain may net a lot more FPs (+10, +20…).

FPs may be "burnt" for mechanical advantages - those awesome flying maneuvers, that earth pone unstoppable ruggedness, those high-power friendship magics. The more FPs used to "power" an action, the biggest the advantage.

But not only that, FPs are also the sole source of character progression. Stat/levels/whatever metric of progression gain is done by "paying for it" with FPs.

>but that will make the party basically a round circlejerk of friendship and helpfulness while people try to milk their FPs out of their party members

Right?

And not only that, since progression is tied to FPs, there is real incentive to going full MLP and trying to befriend the BBEG instead of killing him.

Although turning him to stone for (if possible) all eternity or banishing undesireables to the moon for a thousand years also work in a pinch.

And now the whole game is about going out there and making friends~

>>221242

>>221581

I'm not so convinced friendship is really so closely tied to magic. It may be when used alongside certain artifacts, fine and dandy, but outside of that, most the time, magic is about practice. Assuming you are a unicorn.

Maybe I missed some later shit, though, I don't know.

>>221604

Thing is, the power of friendship never does anything outside the elements of harmony, besides what friendship does normally.

Not really sure myself if I'd count the Shining bit given that the god princess of love was right with him, myself, but I guess you could make an argument for it. Though "love" and "friendship" aren't necessarily one in the same regardless.

It just strikes me that outside those relics, friendship just does what friendship does on its own. While the elements of harmony do shit, sure, otherwise we never see friendship giving people superpowers, or even just a light boost.

>>221581

…I was worried it'd turn into a min-maxed friendship circlejerk.

Now I realize that is the only way to go.

>>221583

At the start of the show, despite being literally born with more magic talent than any other unicorn shown, and despite having years of time to herself to study magic, she can only cast a teleport spell with a massive amount of focus.

Later on, after she meets her new friends and gets to know them better, she becomes able to cast teleport basically at will, and can cast much larger spells.

>>214429

I never knew it existed at all.

>>221929

To be absolutely fair, there's only like three of us and we hardly ever post due to having jobs.

>>221581

Can we implement this in Tabletop Simulator or some other form of homebrew program?

>>222092

Roll20? IRC?

Sure. Not like you would need an actual tabletop with minis.

>>222299

Sweet. Hey, are you guys gonna do another Ranged-focused class, or is there only gonna be one? Having to spend an extra point to use 90% of the abilities with a bow is kinda silly.

>>222316

Not at the moment, I think. The system has gone into a tentative version 4, which by all rights and reasons should be the last revision before we make it "officially done".

As for Ranged-focused classes, short answer is that I don't know and I'm pretty sure there won't be. As the game currently lacks a proper "positioning" value (i.e. where you'd be on a map if you had one), there has been very little focus on classes who would take advantage of that. This is also why a number of skills lost their knock-back capabilities.

The team is, of course, aware of these shortcomings.

>>217714

How would you describe the mental capabilities of those who fail to realize which languages they speak and which don't?

*prepares Hello Kitty whistle*

>>223045

What about Trump's backpedaling?

>>223050

You mean Trump's trying to win?

>>223060

Whoever wins, I doubt that the ordinary citizen will experience the effects until two or three years after the victory.

>>223081

>choosing the lesser evil is still choosing evil.

You choose the lesser of the evils to minimize it, because one of them is getting picked regardless on if you give your input.

>>223087

>because one of them is getting picked regardless on if you give your input

Well, if you wanna be a faggot about it.

Why should we settle for one of two assholes when we can destroy the system that says we need to pick one of these two assholes?

>>223090

Because these two assholes are the anti-system ones, contrary to every other candidate.

Also

>we can destroy the system that says we need to pick one of these two assholes

Because last time someone tried they got fucked over by the feds and one of them got shot while everyone screamed "terrorists!" and "well deserved!".

Is there a presidential/party politics rpg? There should be one. The amount of conflict, deception and speech checks while trying to get funds without becoming a corporate sex toy, oh my.

>>223090

So which system will that be? Communist retard system that always result in pseudo-feudalism with party officials fucking you in the ass at every step, utopian anarchist bullshit, ancap "borders are statist" shit or the LARPtastic NRx "MUH CATHOLIC MONARCH" system?

>>223333

I lean to it myself. Problem over all, though, still persists.

People are elected because they can talk good, not because they're talented, skilled, motivated, or generally a good person.

There's little way to fix that what doesn't run straight into elitist territory.

>>223338

God damn, that Hydra bit…

That's some seriously beautiful running of economics.

Sometimes I wish more folk did some of those types of games. Economic empires in things can be just if not twice as rewarding as dicking around in some caves.

>>223322

>>223329

If we had a solid solution for the "dicks with too much power" problem, we'd be using it, wouldn't we?

>>223480

>we'd be using it, wouldn't we?

Of course we wouldn't.

We don't have the power to. It's in the hand of the dicks, and they want it to stay there.

Hell, even a return to classic Federalism would already do the US wonders. It is a real solid, possible and tested solution. But go ahead and try.

>>223533

Well, I would, but half of you are massive faggots who never want to have a revolution and the other half (or more) are nofunz.

>>223535

(Editor's Note: "nofunz" is a /k/ term. It means you don't have anything to shoot with.)

>>223538

Sort out the shit in your own backyard before you go full muh revolution. Make sure everything is in order at home before you go aborad to burn houses and rape the locals or as internationalists call it "aid the oppressed workers of the world".

>>223541

It's a joke about Heckler and Koch.

>>223543

>sort out the shit

Some places can't be sorted out, anon.

Some places are so backwards or corrupt or kebab-filled that no amount of high-explosive democracy delivering systems can ever fix.

Some places have never worked, don't work, and won't ever work.

In these places, the only thing decent people can do is git gud and leave.

… and then come back with our own guns and ammo they sell overseas and secede, creating a separate nationstate of brown hicks and homos in my glorious true homeland in the hills, of course.

Libertas quae sera tamen, I guess.

Now, not to get too offtopic: A game about sticking it to the system, seceding and creating your own state would be pretty cool to do.

Have the players be the leaders of the movement and then the leaders of sectors of the newly-formed government while everyone tries to shut them down and they try everything in their powers to keep going and bring people in.

>>223378

That was amazing!

Thank you.

>>223400

Problem is, you need people fairly good at economics. "I've got plenty of money, this'll be- Where'd it all go?!"

Not to mention many struggle with the idea of business beyond "Buy X, Sell Y" in an immediate time frame.

However, since /tg/ is basically stats and charts, you could teach someone the basics ironically.

>>217111

Is that Mark?

>>223338

>>223341

These are beautiful. I wish more boards were conditioned into creativity like DnD requires us to.

Are there any campaigns involving cute fairies? Fairies, not faerie tribes.