/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>216318

Sorry, played a game against some 30k marines today and me butt still hurts.

>hurp durp look at all these special rules

>>216316

It's a servitor. So it's more a part of the machine than a pilot. They have to be routinely replaced of course.

Great work though. You planning on doing any of the HH Mechanicum models too? Thanatars and Thallax would be awesome.

>>216320

I've only been commissioned to make the standard Ad Mec models, so nothing special like those. Once I'm done with this army I'll probably keep working on Tau, but I always keep a list of requests to work on. So at one point in time I will probably work on those units, donations obviously push a request further up the priority list.

Not that I'm asking anyone here to donate, just explaining.

I feel like FW is having the most fun they've ever had coming up with new mechanicum models.

>>216323

>Book ends with the bombardment of Fenris commencing

…Holy Shit

>>216303

One of the new kiddy sets comes with a regular bike and a Termie captain… why ?

>>216324

I especially like how the flyer is clearly similar to the Blight Drones.

>>216319

That must suck. I never played a Legion list against someone using regular 40k stuff.

Speaking of 30k stuff, I'm really excited about the upcoming stuff. The head on the TS Contemptor and the Alpha Legion terminator upgrade bits look really interesting.

>>216340

I hope Mechanicum can use hammer and shield automata and that it isn't just for the Iron Warriors. At the very least I can convert the Blight Drones of mine that're just collecting dust on my shelf into more Dark Automata for my Dark Mechanicus.

>>216339

Has anyone here ever used a Domitar? I want to like it, but 175 points apiece just makes it really fucking expensive for what it does.

>>216341

>I hope Mechanicum can use hammer and shield automata and that it isn't just for the Iron Warriors

i dunno man, isn't that like P-bro's own design.

So any details on book 6's rules/campaigns?

>>216319

So what army did you play and what did your forces suffer? Sniper vets? Fury of the Legion on open ground? A plasma seeker squad?

>>216347

With Paragon of Metal they're great. Just make sure you have some skirimsher type of unit to assault enemy melee squads. A group of Ursarax are good for tying them up while you go and punch the crap out of their other stuff. Also, thankfully, the Domitar can ru so it isn't stuck lumbering around like other automata.

>>216353

Sigh, having to choose which unit to give Paragon is such a chore.

>>216368

Well, usually the bigger they are the more worth it giving them it is. A Thanatar with Paragon of Metal is just amazing.

Alright faggots, I think it's nearing time we make a /tg/ canon creation compendium. Stop plunging tangential threads into chaos and all.

Aetern, Se'roune, spess marine chapters, Necron and Tau and all the funny little bits, a general collection of creation tables for anons wanting a full "my guys" experience.

>>216394

Hope is nothing without a will behind it. Latch unto the greatest source of willpower and enable him as best you can. Tzeentch sort of works this way in fluff, his full power is in persuasion. If it's Tzeencht's will you will make the guy great for a plan 2k years later.

>>216395

For someone who doesn't know what you're talking about I.e. me, could you give a brief explanation? The first part of your post I mean.

>>216418

Wait, 30k Alpha Legion can use other armies special units? That's badass! I might have to make some after I do my Salamanders.

>>216420

Yes, they have Rewards of Treason which allows you to field a unit from another Legion. Most people use the Iron Warriors Tyrant siege terminators or the Raven Guard Mor Deythan.

>>216420

Oh yes. As long as it's not a unique unit or an IC, you can pick anything. Oh, and they get use from Mutable Tactics as well. Imagine Tyrant Siege Terminators with Tank Hunter.

Another big pull of the Alpha Legion is that you can rather easily be tooled to make enemy reserves enter on a 7 rolled on a d6 (and no, a 6 is not an automatic success). And even if they make it there's a good chance that one of the units entering is one of yours instead. So if you table them before the reserves enter, you win.

>>216436

Yep, that's Exodus. His weapon (The Instrument) can fire in two modes:

- Rapid Shot makes it S5 AP4 Salvo 2/4, Rending

- Execution Shot makes it S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Rending, Ignores Cover, and Lethal (double all wounds dealt)

He can also pick the model shot in a unit with a 4+ roll.

>>216447

Aren't you a bit fat to be a knight titan?

>>216447

Are those twin-linked Volcano cannons?

>>216452

Apparently some variant of a volcano canon.

>>216339

>Twice the size size of a SM

Six of these motherfuckers sit in Petraubo's Baneblade?

>>216463

Clearly Perturabo's Baneblade doubles as a clown car.

Or it just doesn't make sense, like fitting Centurions into a Land Raider.

>>216447

It's fat and cute like a pill bug

>>216410

>Expecting Nobs to do anything at all but die worthlessly

>Expecting Orks in general to do anything at all but die worthlessly

Should've gone full Eldar man.

>>216596

I'm guessing some kind of shock/taser lance and the last being a Graviton gun.

>>216399

On the 1d4chan war hub, Carstein/Aquillon said he plans to do a write-up of Aetern and post it to the wiki.

>>216449

It reminds me of the old knight warden mixed with the old knight crusader variant

>>216648

I wish. Hopefully the next Ork dex will be less of a joke.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I wanted to ask some questions about the Raven Guard.

I am in a Deathwatch game and I am doing my character sheet right now. My original Concept was a Raven Guard Devestator but I know the Raven Guard are more subtle and Kunning. I figured I could make him a devastator ambush guy? Stealth and bracing behind cover letting my squad mates lead them to me? Does that suit the Raven Guard?

Also what Automatic heavy weapons are there besides the Heavy Bolter and Auto Cannon?

>>216673

Well, they do have devastators, so why not.

You've got the Rotor cannon in 30k, but they aren't really used in 40k. Not that you'd want to either, they're pretty shitty. Beyond that there's the assault cannon but I doubt there's any non-Terminator portable version of it.

>>216673

Should work, but I'd mention it to the GM and the rest of the kill-team first. Deathwatch campaigns tend to be offensive minded, so leading enemies back into cover won't always work.

>Automatic weapons

Can't think of any that aren't the assault cannon (which is either an emplaced weapon or terminator exclusive), but the heavy bolter is really all you need with all the special ammunition you can use.

Also, if I were you I'd suggest to your party that you use the Errata'd damage values for weapons but the original fire rates (except possibly for the HB).

>>216740

Doubt they're actually the old ones. It does say Mock Up after all.

The names are pretty weird too. Battletrukk? Deff Copta instead of Kopta? And Big Boss in Mega Armour when it's really just the old AoBR boss?

>>216740

Price seems reasonable enough, I just don't get why the Biker marines comes with a Termie Captain, shouldn´t make more sense if it came with a Biker HQ like a Chaplain or a Librarian ?

But the Speeder seems nice, and the Heavy Assault team seems reasonable enough for me, Terminator Squad + Dreadnought sounds like a nice combo

I'll get the wartrukk and the Speeder first, and the Termie+Dread combo after that

>>216677

>>216684

I just wanted to find a way to be a devastator and still role play a Raven Guard.

And Heavy Bolter should be all I need.

>>216740

>It also suggest that Gdebs may be smarter than we give them credit for (not much more but hey) in that they understand what is killing model trains is the lack of young blood.

Model trains are being killed by uninteresting releases, shitty rules and inflated prices.

I don't like the look of the new Eldar Jetbikes, but I suppose I have no right to complain since I haven't played in a decade.

Also Eldar in general are covered in way too many lumps/spirit stones. I guess crone worlds are now piss easy to get too.

>>216906

>too

to*

>>216833

Part of being cunning and sneaky is tactics. It's researching your upcoming for, studying them to figure out patterns and spot their weakest point and then arm yourself appropriately. If you're completely married to the notion of being a full time Heavy Bolter user, you're going to have to be smart and think like a member of the Raven Guard. Their chapter is devoted to the notion of guerrilla warfare and you need to get up to speed on thinking like a guerilla.

First off, ambushes. You're going to need to set up in a choke point and be completely sure that your enemy will enter your kill zone. This means having an ally/allies help you, either by chasing them into your field of fire or by acting as bait.

Your kill zone needs to be properly prepared, as well. Ensure that you have some cover or concealment so that your enemy does not see you first. If you have time, conceal explosives in the kill zone. Landmines should be placed towards the end of your box (so they don't go off before your enemy is fully in your firelane) and demolition charges should be scattered towards the middle. When the first mine detonates, trigger your charges and open fire. They will be devastated, which is really up your alley.

Inside, you should never take the lead. Be the second or third man in your squad as you advance, providing your allies with rapidly deployed suppressing fire while not getting in the way with your huge gun and ammo pack. When breaching a room, be the last man through the door to ensure your enemy is engaged before you hose them with fire. Quick reaction is not your strong point, so let your faster friends in first.

If I'm being completely honest, you should consider using other weapons as the mission dictates. A Heavy Bolter is great right up until you encounter vehicles. Rocket launchers are highly versatile, as are plasma cannons. An autocannon can provide some suppression while also being effective against some lightly armored vehicles and heavy infantry but this sort of jack of all trades usage means it's ill-suited for everything equally.

To sum up: ambush when possible, prepare your kill zone and pay attention to the limits of your chosen gear if you want to be a cunning and sneaky Devastator.

>>216911

Your right about changing stuff up but the DM said we might mostly be fighting orks so Rapid Fire Anti Personnel would be best.

Also I am picking starting gear and a Bolter is the most versatile.

>>216855

Model trains have rules?

do they have PCs and internet in the WH40k universe? if so , how are they?

>>217028

Pretty sure they do, but like most things: there are skulls involved, it is hardwired for a specific purpose, or it is so incredibly expensive it's only optional to a Magos or Rogue Trader.

Generally its position is likely filled by a cadre of specialist tech priests who commune with another, thereby coming to the same results as a pc, but using fourteen times the energy.

>>217030

Holy shit that is the last time I make a post in one pass. Must doublecheck grammar, always.

>>217028

>internet

On a singular world, it's plausible, but between planets asthropathic communication is by far the fastest method possible. When it works.

>>217032

Yea, worlds or systems at least.

There is some manner of popular culture spanning through the segmentums, like holo series and other entertainment, so it's safe to assume many of the more developed civilized worlds and hives will have something of an internet. I guess civilian data traffic beyond that would have to rely on physical shipping along with merchant ships though.

>>217032

how would a human imperial chan look like?

>>217129

Would /pol/ be filled with leftist alien sympathizers instead of Neo-Nazis considering thats what the Imperium is already?

>>217130

>implying the posters wouldn't be blammed by their own cogitator for such heresy

>>217130

More likely they'd be even more extreme, like Redemptionists, death cults, radicals etc.

Anything resembling overt sympathy for xenos or chaos would likely be caught up by the authorities, unless you're on a lawless frontier world.

>>217173

I bet being a Redemptionist would be really fun.

>>217130

How about /tg/, /co/, /n/ and /v/ ?

Does the imperium have a equivalent of Baneposting ?

>>217199

>/tg/

New Tarot the Rallying block spoilers, carefully whining about how OP the new Emperor Ascendant card is while trying not to be labelled a heretic.

Mechanicum and IG players arguing whether or not it is still considered tech-heresy to kitbash the turret of a Leman Russ model for Flames of Warp.

Complaining how Thunderhammer Fantasy Battles is so much more popular than the original Thunderhammer, accusing Games Manufactoria of being filthy Xeno lovers whenever a new Vesselworld Eldarion armybook is released and laughing at how stupidly sleek and rivet-lacking the Empire's Lomar Rux MBT model is.

>/co/

Probably just the same but with heroes like The Redeemer, Captain Thunderbolter, Supermarine, Night Haunter, Spyre-man, Arbites Dredd and Comissar Cain.

>/n/

Slightly less mainstream forms of Imperial propaganda, to facilitate the illusion of being free from the government's surveillance.

>/v/

They actually like, and play hologames. Always listen to their advice.

>Baneposting

Boneposting, the art of posting quotes from Bone, the Ogryn mercenary antagonist of the Night Haunter movie, The Dread Knight Descends.

>>217222

I'll buy every single prog of Arbites Dredd, the Automata Battle Cybernetica Warriors and Promethium Dog

Also, whoever wrote Spyre-man: One More Day must be purged

>Boneposting

-You're a big guy

- For 'ya

I imagine /mu/ being constantly raided by Eldar posters who shitpost on how Human music is shit compared to "superior" Eldar music

Everyone is still waiting for Mörktley Krüe latest album

>>217222 (checked)

Meanwhile /a/ is trying to find Miura's location so he can stop playing Idolmaster and finish Berserk, because 30.000 years of constant hiatus is fucking unbearable

Hell, I suppose the emperor sent a Marine chapter just to get the fucker back to work, because even he's tired of not getting any new chapters….

So got a question for you folks. What is the difference between a hellgun and a hot shot lasgun.

From what I have read so far the hellgun has a larger backpack power supply and can fire faster than the hot shot, but the hot shot lasgun has a stronger amour penetration than the hellgun.

>>217228

I think they just changed the name from Hellgun to hot-shot lasgun

>>217231

Actually found out the difference now for the Tabletop.

A hell gun is S 3 AP 5 with a 24" range while the hot shot is S3 AP 3 with an 18" range.

Both are rapid fire though

>>217239

Oh found out this by going through an older codex, specifically the old Daemonhunters one

>>217028

The mechanicus have something called the "Noosphere" or something to that effect, and based off of what I've read in Titanicus, it seems that (on some worlds, at least) there is a widely available interenet equivalent.

>>217243

From what I read in the Forge of Mars books. It is sort of like Augmented Reality to a techpriest and those who have the modified eyes to see it

>>217243

Has the mechanicus ever tried to hack into the Tau's systems and make their battlesuits and such go berserk ?

>>217245

I imagine scrapcode would fuck them up just as readily as it does imperial stuff. Even though Tau AI tech is likely far too simple to be posessed and suffer the worst consequences, it probably could fuck up the sensory data and programming.

I hope the combined Skitarii/Cult codex or the next IA book features something like Cybertheurgy that can be used against all vehicles and mechanical models.

>>217222

>/tech/

there will be a lot of Omnissiah there , the tech support might be worse

>>217271

>they just say "abominable intelligence" instead of "botnet".

>>217250

I want the skitarii from the novel Titanicus. Where they are tribesman given cyber enhancements and wear fur with mohawks made out of glowing feathers. The ones they have are really a disappointment.

>>217298

Pretty obvious they'd go for something generic though. Would've been cool if they made some unusual regiments like they do with IG, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The 30k Skitarii we've seen so far are all upgrade kits for the plastic set after all.

Maybe when they get to Dark Mechanicus.

>>217305

Yea well in the fluff still there are different kinds of skitarii still. There are four main types though

Upgraded IG regiments

Codex Skitarii

Techno Barbarians

Vast amounts of servitors

>>217305

>>217298

The ones they did make are pretty cool though I will admit, just want some other options as well for tech guard.

Codex skitarii did have some of the dumbest fluff though which I put up there with the stormtroopers as being bad fluff.

Seriously the walkers cant stop moving or they shut down. They have rooms where these things run on treadmills or run around in circles. It is really stupid.

So I love Warhammer and want to play a game with a friend.

Problem is hes in a different country.

Is there a way to play online? Some kind of virtual gameboard?

>>217487

Yea the program Vassal

>>217305

>Pretty obvious they'd go for something generic though.

No shit, literally everybody is a Cadian and skulls are everywhere because the art in the 3rd edition rulebook has permanently fucked up the 40k aesthetic.

Lorewise there are(were) human planets just like this one and IG regiments just like modern day soldiers.

Now everything is Cadian and there are skulls on literally everything all thanks to 1 plastic model kit and 1 artist.

I miss punk Eldar.

>>217499

GW has a bunch of different IG regiments up on their site. Although the majority is Cadian they have Mordian, Vahalla, Vostaryan, and Catchacon stuff for instance. I think they even have some First and only units up still

>>217490

I checked that out and it looked a bit finicky

>>217505

As far as I am aware it is the only online one

>>217505

You could always use table-top simulator.

>>217502

The point is the first affordable plastic kit was the Cadian regiment, and every book and lore since has just copied standard pattern Cadian and changed the name.

I take it you don't remember when Guard regiments could swap out all lasguns for autoguns at no points cost.

>>217514

Did ye olde autguns have different stats?

Nowadays they're exactly the same.

In Mutants and Renegades you can switch out either for shotguns, but for whatever reason shotguns aren't spray templates/don't have the option for it, sadly.

>>217516

Exactly the same as lasguns, I should say.

>>217514

Well since autoguns are exactly the same as a lasgun it is just having to model them differently. Plus we are now going to start getting different suppliments for the other factions of the imp guard, which did start with Cadia.

We also have three alt army lists for imp guard, two krieg and an Elysian one.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/02/rumors-40k-moving-to-formations-only.html

If this is true then this is going to suck major balls

>>217522

Nope, they won't do it.

>>217508

Doesn't that only work with specific games that the game is programmed with?

>>217579

It is literally a sandbox with no programming required.

Got twenty plus Squats, three in power armor.

The Red Compendium came with it, and damn. Haven't seen half the images in this. If I find a convenient way to do it, I'll upload scans.

>>217595

Or buy from chinaman/russians. Been seeing a lot of Eastern European and Russian recasters on ebay lately.

>>217595

Sure, the Steel Legion are basically WW2 German Paratroopers anyway.

>>217595

Sure, you can, but you're still paying GW prices for multiples of the same ten metal models, and might not even have options for all the special and heavy weapons.

Better to just get Kriegsmen from China. Zanchui sells all of them for at least 50% or less of FW prices, and beyond the somewhat precariously thin bayonets and lasgun barrels, the quality is more than good enough.

Where can I get some good 40k stl designs? I wanna use my 3d printer as an STC.

Could I ask for some painting advice in this thread or should I try and find the model thread?

>>217949

Thin your paints.

That out of the way, you can probably ask here

>>217949

Ask away, but be warned,

THIN YOUR PAINTS

will be in just about every answer.

Also, drill your muzzles, complementary colors, vallejo is a great brand, and thin your paints.

>>217955

blue, light blue. Bring in some slate to it make shift it enough.

>>217956

So, light blue on the armor and slate for the webbing?

>>217957

Coming down from a sugar high so my grammar was terrible. Meant mixing light blue into the green, making it a cooler color than the warm you make it sounds.

>>217959

I'll try that, but the problem I was running into wasn't a result of mixing, but rather placing the colors next to each other. When I paint the fatigues, it's the right color, but any color I paint the armor just makes all the green pop right out.

>>217955

Can I see what type of pattern are you going for?

>>217964

>you are going for

>>217964

I don't have a camera on me, but I'm going for a pretty simple pattern, using a cadian model. Grey/green fatigues, and the armor a different color. No fancy camo schemes, just flat colors.

So it looks like all this crap is true:

http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.ca/2016/02/horus-heresy-book-6-notes.html

I wish the dark compliance stuff extended to Mechanicum and Solar Auxilia but it's still really cool as is. Also my Iron Warriors finally have access to phased plasma-fusil techpriest squads which is great. I guess I'll just use my tech-thrall models as grenadiers or as an inducted levy.

>>218188

>Dark Magos

IT BEGIIIIIINS

http://www.spellcrow.com/changed-legions-c-9_47.html

For that guy who liked the idea of un-Tzeentched Thousand Sons, ton of interesting bits.

>>218188

>may not have more unit choices from legions than militia

What does he mean by "unit choices" in this context? Do you have to have at least one militia unit for every legion, or must have more militia than legion?

Book 6 torrent when?

>>218199

Unit choices as in units that take up slots on the Force Org chart.

And it's gonna be a while considering the pre-orders just went up today

Is a Grand Battalion an overstrength Grand Company? Or does it comprise of several Grand Companies?

ok , so what if: it turns out that the guys at GW were mildly psychic and the universe of warhamer 40k is our universe , the Empire had contacted us and asked us to join them for we were a long lost colony from the real Terra .

How will this affect you?

How will this affect your loved ones?

How will this affect your nation?

How will affect the world?

>>218392

>You

I SIGN ME THE FUCK UP! At this point Big E is probably the only one that can really fix this world.

>Family

General confusion and terror.

>Nation

We are probably going to war against an Astartes Legion/Guard Company.

>World

Thrown into a global war it will not win, with some nations adding the Imperium.

Got a bit of a /v/ question. Would the Helghast count as mutants, or just a variant strain of humanity?

>>218392

>Me

Renounce my heretical ways and fight for the Emperor

>loved ones

Don't care, fighting for the Emperor

>nation

Splits into a bunch of individual countries, most likely.

>world

sides with the Imperium, but only because they want that sweet tech to push their own interests. Even the revelation of a galactic empire can't stop the turning of our world.

>>218392

>you

I volunteer. With the Emperor at our side, victory is surely within our grasp.

>Family

I guess my parents would be worried about me. Don't know about my brother, he never really liked any authority figure.

>Nation

I'm sure a country without a space program and barely any air defence wouldn't even dare to resist the might of the Imperium.

>World

I don't know. I bet there would be war but after a few nations get wiped, I'm sure most of Earth would submit to Imperial rule.

>>218411

The Helghast would be treated the same as any death world inhabitant at best or abhumans at worst. The conditions on Helghan are pretty similar to those on Krieg minus the radiation. I'm sure they would be recognized as pure humans.

>>218392

>you

There is no greater cause in this galaxy than righteous battle in the name of the Emperor, and that cause I shall join. And share with him all the meta-knowledge I possess about a certain Arch-Traitor.

>family

Fuck knows, don't care, I was about to leave anyways.

>nation

Emperor Trump would make a deal with the Big E to make sure America remains great in the Imperium.

>World

Purges most of the Middle East out of embarrassment as we try and look our best for Emps. Maybe some scramble to lick boots before Trump is named planetary governor.

>>218596

I want to say it's 475. I guess the missiles are there to fuck with any infantry you might run into. I mean, it's not like you can't turn those lascannons against ground troops either, they're large blasts too.

>>218596

It may have no Hull Points, so it has to be removed from the table immediately, but if you play your cards right you can get it to use it's 37 attacks before it's destroyed.

>>218599

I bet they'll make a anti infantry version too with a Quake cannon or something based on the old Castellan.

I know this is a stupid question, but where in the 7th E rule book does it describe the points costs for psychic mastery levels? I can't find it anywhere.

>>218605

Simple typo anon. If you look closer you will see that it actually has no attacks and 37 HP to make up for it.

>>218646

Nowhere I assume? It's in the codexes.

>>218700

Well shit, I doubled checked it and you're right. I have no idea how I missed that.

>>216317

anon don't be a sperg.

It they called it "HH" you would not be acting out, is just a name the game is still about 40k, but the time with the primarchs alive was pretty much fuccing awesome

>you will never put your Blood angels against a army of chaos demons leaded by the primarch vs khorn itself.

>>218793

Well once the rules for Sanguinius and the Blood Angels (that sounds like a fucking band from the early 2000's) have their rules out there's no reason you couldn't have a game with them vs. An'ggrath and a whole mess of Khornate stuff.

>>218867

IIRC Sisters were founded by the Emperor, and later dissolved into the Inquisition.

>>218869

Ah, thanks. I'm thinking of GMing an Age of Strife era campaign for some players fucking around in the Sol system, so I'm just doing some research into the era. And man there is so little to go by.

>>218869

Where did you get the dissolved by the inquisition bit? As far as I am aware their fate is pretty much unknown as of now but it is though they still work on the black ships and/or work for the inquisition.

Personally I am of the opinion that they are still working for the Astra Telipathica because we do have something called disruption squads that they field which we don't know anything about. They seem to show up during the larger battles such as the 3rd war of Armageddon or the 13th black crusade. Never in large numbers as they are specifically listed as squads. Which would make a lot of sense if these were the sisters of silence since it is rare to find an untouchable they would be fielded as squads. Plus you would have three organizations trying to actively get their hands on untouchables, The Adeptus Telipathica, the Assassins, and the Inquisition. So the sisters of silence flying under the radar would work.

Plus pretty sure that an organization the emperor personally set up would not be disbanded. Downsized like the legions is a possibility though

>>218793

Blood Angels just got their Legion rules though.

The Genestealer cult and Deathwatch rumours are back.

>>219124

I've seen. Might be cool?

At the very least some Deathwatch would be neat, I guess even though we have Assault and Sternguard Vet kits already that're basically all you need. And I think we all know of another Inquisitorial chamber militant that desperately needs more attention/new models.

>>219130

The problem with the space marine veteran kits is the lack of inquisitorial bits. Deathwatch marines specialized bolters and a very ornate shoulder pad.

I hope it isn't just Genestealers, but hybrids and regular cultists as well.

>>219124

>>219130

I just really hope it includes actual stealer cultists and hybrids and not some tragic collection of regular stealers and chaos cultists.

>>219133

Speaking of Genestealers, I kind of feel like Space Marines, Genestealers, Ork Nobs and other things that should be on 25mm bases should maybe have 2 Wounds? I know it's a drop in the bucket towards fixing the mess that 40K currently is but it feels like it would help a little bit.

Also the 25mm bases are interesting as they do kind of help represent the size classes in the tabletop (Space Marines and things of those size being a size class above regular humans).

>>219150

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Poor Orks. If things go fucky and GW shits the bed with an Age of Sigmar-ification thus causing anyone nearing a serious player to go play with the Horus Heresy ruleset them and all the other xenos are fucked. But especially them with their shit codex, at least pretty much all the other xenos are OK (Nids not withstanding).

>>219150

Got sommin' in yer eye, boy?

>>219152

I hope that at some point we might again access to ork hordes of the 30k universe, i mean the calith betrayel was entirely made to destroy an ork empire.

Okr empires might be fun, even if orkz really don't have scaling technology there has to be a way to bring an ork empire up to legion strength.

Nids get fucked and so do tau but eldar can be valuable too.

Maybe we could finally see some of the old alien empires too

>>219189

>N..,No boss.

>>219197

They do have better tech in 30k though, just look at that planet that was literally made from junk held together by force fields.

Basically, Orks thrive on fighting and gets stronger, not just physically, but likely technologically as well as the meks and oddboyz keep tinkering on.

And in 30k they'd been building up huge empires virtually uncontested for thousands of years, so they grew much stronger than in 40k where they keep getting culled periodically and usually never band together to grow strong enough.

Then again, we do have the Charadon empire, so it would've been interesting to see some fluff and maybe a codex focusing on them.

>>219197

>>219200

>ork boy units of up to 50 models

>burnas, kommandos, lootas, etc up to 30 models

>lootas get to actually use looted weapons, and it's 30k-tier stuff

>loads of big tanks

>ard armor is default

>>219200

It seems there are actually a lot of ork empires in the world right now. Just two major ones though

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ork_Domains

>>219197

Droprokks would pretty cool, basically just Deep Strikeable mini-fortresses that can carry Orks and be map control.

I wish FW would do Rites of War type things for other races, because they are really really cool ways of making your army play just how you want it to.

>>217514

I thought first plastic Guard kit was Catachans?

Were they not affordable?

>>219395

This

THIS

THIS

THIS

Age of fucking Sigmar happened and yet people still mewl and cry out for plot advancement. How can you be anything nearing optimistic or entertain such ideas of optimism?

>>219398

>>219395

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

More seriously, we have == TEN THOUSAND YEARS == to fill in. Let's encourage them to do more of that instead, yeah?

>>219420

Absolutely agreed, there's so many awesome campaigns and half-referenced pieces of lore that filling those in should take a few decades at least.

>>219488

If you're determined to enter this hellish reality then there are better bargains, but it's perfect for a test run.

>>219376

I don't know about deep strike, but maybe something like a crashed rok scenery/fortification that you can place as a form of scout deployment?

Nominate a spot, roll for scatter, and remove any terrain it crashes into. Give it a capacity of at least 30 boyz, and have them make snap shots only an not being able to disembark on the first turn.

>>219395

Most likely, they're just adding a little more clusterfuck up towards the 13th Black Crusade's stalemate.

After all, this all happens because the SW furries are coming back with a massive daemonic incursion on their heels, and the Changeling was killing it's way into the DA ranks to impersonate people and spread snafu to manipulate them into bombing the woofs. There's at least two parts left of the campaign, so it's safe to assume things will get more or less resolved by then, maybe just adding some damage to the parties and more distrust between the DA and SW.

>>219488

It's a decent way to see if you're into the painting at least, better than buying a whole starter army or start collecting kit plus paints only to find out you don't like it.

>>219492

>then there are better bargains

Such as ?

>>219506

I'm speaking from price per model, paired with vallejo paint and such. But that box set is quite convenient to "start".

>>219721

It looks so much like he clenches his ass for throttle.

>>219723

I'm not sure how to take that. The gunner or the servitor guy?

>>219724

Servitor. Considering prosthetics at this time, it very well may be the gunner's own dick in there.

Drive Shaft

>>219420

Age of Apostasy when? I want to go through that shit.

>>219873

>the Administratum finally gets an army list

An army of scribes and pencilpushers

>>219877

Better yet, you don't choose any models, you just choose a Scribelord and whichever specialisation he has, then roll on the Administratum table to see what happens.

1 - The report of the battle gets misfiled, and nothing gets done. You lose the game.

2 - Due to slow paperwork and bad intelligence, the forces scrambled are badly equipped to handle the situation.

Make a IG army list, and allow your opponent to see it before he makes his own list.

3 - The wheels of the Administratum turn slowly but surely.

Make a IG army list as normal.

4 - The Administratum decides to take a coffee break, and send the mess to the Astartes instead.

Make a army list of Space Marines of any kind.

5 - The Administratum goes all in, pulling intelligence from the dustiest archives and marshalling the most effective forces.

Make a army list chosen from any forces of the Imperium.

6 - The battle, and indeed the whole conflict, gets resolved through masterful paper-shuffling, sub-committee discussions, responsibility-delegation and threat-reassessment. Whatever the factual outcome on the ground, the whole situation is filed as cleared. You win the game.

>>219942

Schway

>>219942

Here's the meta-factions and actual factions

Loyalist | Independent | Traitor

Legions Astartes (Crusade Fleet/Defence Cohort) | Mechanicus (Taghmata/Ordo Reductor) | Knight Household | Solar Auxilia (Expeditionary/Noble House) | Imperial Army/Warp Cults

>>219967

Those look nice. Got a tacticool feel with all the bobs and bits.

>Those emotive faces

We just got a shitload of reaction images

>>219967

>Deathwatch 6

Well, that's the creepiest White Scar ever..

Just look at that guy

>>219972

Best part is how their faces actually look kind of weird and exaggeratedly square like they're supposed to.

So it's BA and RG vanguard vets, a DA champion, Smurf (Guess that's the guy on the first book) and IH Sternguards and IF devastator (Probably the guy in book 7).

The SW guy in book 4 is probably melee oriented, either a vanguard or some SW special class, the Sally has to be a Devastator, no idea on the WS guy though.

As for the obvious LIbby in book 10, I recall some rumourmonger mentioning that there would be a Blood Raven in there, so I guess that'd be him.

>>219967

Is this coming up with rules for actual 40k just like the Assassins board game ?

>>219981

>Blood Raven

Lock the reliquary

>>219984

What reliquary?

>>219985

>>219984

god damnit, it's a meemie started by that Alpha-Legion normalfag who makes the TOOXT TOH SPEESCH DEVICEE or one of his faggot friends.

I don't see why people even care about them.

>>220013

Your Aquila is missing an eye

>>219967

Man, those left arms look quite ornate, it seems the inscription from the pauldron extends to the arm armour. Do I see bionic limbs on some of these guys?

>>219972

The White Scar looks like he came off one of those Tatar or Cossack paintings.

>>220017

The Palantine Aquila didnt have the eyehole like the "modern" aquila does

>>220041

Clearly a leg on the IH guy at least.

I'm more confused by the IF's weapon. Doesn't look like a heavy bolter, more like a downscaled version of the frag cannon.

>>220108

I can't promise that they'll be good ones, but I can try. Maybe I'll inspire you to come up with some better ones?

>>220110

Anything's appreciated anon, even if it's just one or two. Just keep in mind that these are Pre-Heresy world's so the majority of them will have rather Imperial names.

>>220108

nethunia

ignore, just revealing new posts.

>>220111

Brenus IV

Agathica

Salvadia

Archmedus

Vyndel III

Boris' Founding

Grinth

Korthmarch

Terminus Rest

Abessyss

Felldun

Vorkup

Nellos

Lyskos

>>220105

No, allied detachments have to be of a different codex, but you could ally the two different Death Korps armies with each other, or codex Orks with Dreadmob Orks, etc.

Nothing's stopping you from just taking multiple detachments from the same codex though, you just can't use the allies detachment.

>>220141

Forgive me for asking, but "multiple detachments"? I must have missed this part of the update. How does that work?

>>220142

just take as many detachments of any kind as you want, unless there is a specific limit. So far though, the only limits I can recall is the one for Allied detachments and the various formation limits within the various decurion-style detachments.

In other words, you can bring as many of the original FOC chart as you can afford. As long as you have those two troops and one HQ in each, you needn't ever worry about having enough slots for all the other units.

Alright ya gitz

Trailer is out

>>220172

Why does the trailer look like one of those [X intensifies] gifs?

>>220172

>SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN TO LIVE

Holy shit that is worded so wrong. Who the hell works at GW these days, did they fire everyone who gave a single fuck about consistency?

>>220172

>suffer not the alien to live

Is this what a SJW feels when they're triggered, /tg/?

So, I've got a question regarding the Kroot. Let's say, theoretically, one had a friendly relationship with a Kroot. Let's say, still purely hypothetically, this relationship developed further. If one were to sexually climax into the mouth of said Kroot, would said Kroot eventually shift to a more human form due to the absorption of human DNA?

>>220213

No,

>>220179

Wasn't that always their motto? Are you new to this whole scene? Actually, that's not even an excuse because Space Marines say this shit even in the Dawn of War games. It's even in a couple of older codices as a trait, right now I'm looking at the one from 2004.

>>220223

aliens, not xenos?

in a phrase meant for witches?

I admit I am not familiar with deathwatch lore all to well, but is it a long running thing to mince so many things into one phrase?

>>220226

I don't really see a problem. If it's written in the codex like that, it's fine by me.

>>220218

So if they eat humans for successive generations, will they become more like humans?

>>220281

Holy shit, plastic hybrids

>>220306

One would think that and I believe it is already so. Consider this, they have a specific variant for ork hybrid. They supposedly started out as that, yet they look little like them now.

>>220280

>>220281

Holy fuck, not only are they bringing back the genestealer cultists but they're actually good sculpts. I guess Tyranids actually have allies now.

As much as I hate their shittier practices these and the Ad Mech army (being split into two armies being one of the aforementioned shitty practices) give me some faith. Here's hoping they become a proper ally force, in the vein of harlequins or militarum tempestus. Preferably with an armoured limousine.

>>220279

>>220280

>>220281

I was actually expecting them to fuck up the models. Do we know anything about the rules yet?

>>220320

They're just part of a box set based around a Deathwatch operation for now. I'd be very surprised if they didn't get their own army list eventually.

>>220321

Weren't the people "leaking" this information saying that was exactly what GW is planning? Then again, the same people did say we would have BaC stand alone boxsets by now.

>>220322

Worst comes to worst run a Renegades and Heretics army without taking Chaos Covenants and give the Arch-demagogue the Mutant Overlord specialization.

>>220281

>GW does something right.

Deathwatch is going to carry the financials all the way to the report but I can't imagine they'll learn anything.

>>220280

>those fucking cultists

I hope they sell them individually, I want those for guardsmen

>>220327

Sets like these are usually alright.

>>220281

I expected the patriarch to be sitting on a throne or a reclining sofa, but oh well…

>>220322

Apparently there's a second 30k box coming, and rumours are BaC will be discontinued and put into separate boxes by then.

As for Genestealer cults, there are rumours about them becoming a full ally army too.

So I guess three clampack characters, box of 5 Aberrants/other variant with various options, box of 10 Hybrids with options for all the generations, and PLEASE FOR FUCKS SAKE MAKE A LIMOUSINE.

"Arlatax-class battle-automata:

Roughly the same stats as a castellax but is a JUMP PACK MONSTROUS CREATURE! has a plasma blaster and two power claws (+2str ap2, shred) which have built in mini-assault cannons (24" str6 ap4 heavy3). may upgrade one of the claws to a arc scourge, which is confers rampage and armourbane (must choose which weapon is being used)"

Now that's one hell of an assault beatstick.

>>220780

I always figured that was that alternate Ursarax model with the claws.

>>220780

How many points is it?

>>220871

No one has the book yet, I think.

Regardless after I get Mechanicus tanks in order that's gonna be my next project.

>>220872

I wish they'd make heavier tank as well. And give you options to add in Mechanicum Leman Russ, Malcadors etc.

>>220880

I wish they'd make a final fucking version of their army lists. They keep adding shit and I feel like I'm just gonna keep holding off on buying the red book. Not to mention that they're missing a ton of models for these still "Work in Progress" army lists.

>>220903

Yea there's honestly no point buying the book when they keep adding new things all the time. They did at least make models for the Domitar, Ursarax and Explorator, but now there's that Arlatax, and the flyer as well. Pirate all the way.

>>221253

Neat. Kinda cool to see the Blood Ravens get some love. Not my favorite chapter, but Dawn of War got some friends into the universe and then later into the game itself. I'd like to see a supplement for them and some of the other more unusual but still technically codex chapters. Maybe they could make an entire codex out of it, like a codex of mini-codices. That could be fun.

>>221271

The last thing we need is even more codexes or supplements to sub faction when they haven't even made them for the founding chapters.

All we really need for the magpies is a shoulder set, Chapter Tactic and maybe a special character or two to go with a IA book. Or better yet, make a compilation with the Red Scorpions, Charcarodons, Mantis Warriors and all the other FW chapters and throw BR in there.

>>221253

>>221254

They really shoulda just made a Deathwatch army list consisting of

HQ

>Watch Captain

Elites

>Dreadnought

>Terminators

Troops

>Vanguard Veterans

>Sternguard Veterans

Fast Attack

>Vanguard Vets w/ Bikes

>Stormraven

Heavy Support

>Sternguard Veterans w/ Heavy Bolters

(that have Heavy Bolter special ammunitions)

And then the special characters can be added to any or all of these squads as a replacement for the sergeant.

>>221277

(checked)

Just how many chapters have gotten specific tactics? I'm not finding a full list, may compile it myself.

>>221280

There's a pdf on FW.

It's Red Scorpions, Charcarodons, Howling Griffons, Lamenters, Fire Angels, Marines Errant, Raptors, Exorcists, Mantis Warriors, Executioners, Angels Revenant, Red Hunters, Star Phantoms, Minotaurs, Sons of Medusa, Novamarines, Fire Hawks and Astral Claws.

Some of them just use their progenitor chapters' tactic though. Pretty sure all of them had at least one special character, but Minotaurs, Red Scorpions, Astral Claws and Charcarodons got the most stuff.

>>221254

I expected the Librarian to be an Exorcist, but it's nice to see a Blood Raven. I guess.

Two Ultramarines is a bit much. If they wanted to have another Smurf they should have used one of the successor chapters.

Does a blacksheild paevian's automata benefit from their version of LA?

Does this mean we can deploy Castallaxes with 1 extra toughness?

>>221284

I didn't mean forgeworld, I meant ever.

Ye old Mentors, the progenitors, legion of the damned, etc. All of the officially ruled marine chapters.

>>221287

Well, there's all the original chapters, GK, Legion of the Damned, but apart from that there shouldn't be much more.

All the old stuff from earlier editions an chapter approved isn't really usable today anyways.

>>221289

>All the old stuff from earlier editions an chapter approved isn't really usable today anyways.

What are you, a casual? Where do you think we are? We make the old shit usable.

Here is an idea. We make the rules, balance them a bit, some cliff notes as to how canon changed in their region of space, and send a physical letter of it to whatever dungeon holds GWWarhammer writers. If they don't want to do good crunch then we can.

>>221286

When in doubt email Forge World, they actually respond and explain themselves pretty well.

Also Blackshields get +1 Toughness? Whut?

>>221286

>>221291

Wait is this in the newest HH book? Scans where?

>>221299

lackshields are in the newest book, yeah.

No scan yet, that I know of.

>>221299

>>221291

There are a few pictures of what they got(someone on cuckchan posted them and I didn't save the grainy PDF he made) out there, but no full scan yet. I am mostly going off of those and what is on 1d4chan. One of the traits you can choose boosts toughness and strength while lowering initiative, charge/run distances, and disallowing sweeping advances.

>>221319

What's the fluff explanation for that?

>>221343

I do not know or sure, but the 1d4chan listing implied something to do with them being mutated/genetically modified marines.

>>221343

>>221344

A lot of the legions used all kinds of weird and often unsanctioned tech to accelerate the marine creation process during the HH.

Most notably, the Raven Guard also continued with this in the aftermath to bolster their critically low numbers, but a lot of the experiments yielded poor results like corrupting the geneseed and shit. It's been implied that the Charcarodons for example, were a result of this.

>>221360

The only positives I can tell you are that they have drop pods once more and that they also have genestealer cults again too.

>>221360

Flyrant is mandatory for a regular army, otherwise some of the new formations make them viable if not op. Apocolypse is essentially in the main game now.

>>221372

If they don't make it, I'll just have to fucking kitbash one and make homebrew rules for it.

Armour 12/11/10 maybe, 5-6 transport cap intended for one the Primus or Magus and a couple of Aberrant or purestrain bodyguards. Add options for heavy weapon guy riding shotgun and conferring a aura of psychic buffs/Synapse.

Is there such a thing as post-battle sacking and pillaging in the IG? Say a Guard regiment makes a breakthrough and advances into a Tau controlled city, Would B.L.M and other assortments of rape and plunder be a significant problem for commissars/the Inquisition?

>>221371

War is technically still going, eldar blasted a walls of dead planets to prevent the nids from spreading

Armageddon is ork central at the moment, ghazghul got in touch with gork and mork, sent express invite to every ork to join his WAAAGH. Officially pre-great crusade level stronk now

Cadia is about to fall, CREEED took charge so expect shenanigans

Mechanicus found out golden throne is irreparable, sent expedition to Commoragh. Speculated that they want the panacea STC, the cure all, unknown if by force or by trade

Tau are on their last legs after second Damocles crusade, resorting to big mechs and AIs more and more. Their tech is getting less and less safe

An entire segmentum has gone dark, think pacificus. Thousands of worlds rebelled at once.

Crons on the opposite side have gone full oldcron with newcron tech, razing dozens of worlds in the blink of an eye

Speaking of Commoragh, the gate to the warp is breaking. Vect is trying to maintain cool, some heartless bitch ex-mistress(who has the panacea) thinks he's going to open it. War in the streets, more than usual

Wolves got their wolfen back, but in the flashiest way possible thanks to Thousand Sons fuckery. The Changeling did his thing and, despite everyone being quite reasonable, got Fenris bombarded by the dark angels.

Harlequins appearing in obscene numbers, preparing for the finale. Somehow they're going to make Slaanesh save the eldar.

Besides that plenty of xenos are appearing out there that can spread exponentially.

>>221392

Dunno. Fluff for the ghostkeel has the pilots actually getting BFF with the semi-sentient programming.

If it doesn't get corrupted by chaos I assume it might simply hide itself. It'll probably put the dots together eventually, and start playing chess with chaos. As long as it has etherials around its core it should be fine, and as long as the imperium doesn't know it exists it won't get steamrolled outright.

OR the rumors are true and it's a god damn C'tan, Slaan, or first edition Necron pulling the strings and being backed into the corner is part of the plan. The more pressure, the faster tech increase. An android army warded by anti-chaos shit is exactly whats needed to hunt Tyranids and chaos.

>>221390

Forgot to mention they lost a lot of contact with the others because so many distress calls were pouring in it broke the psyker relay, heads exploding broke.

Seriously, I've just done the smallest of recaps

>>221407

Imagine every single foreshadowed problem coming to a head. That is the current imperium of man.

The segmentum going dark is chaos, or at least alpha legion. Everything else is self explanatory or due to so many reasons its pointless to summarize.

>>221387

>Wolves got their wolfen back, but in the flashiest way possible thanks to Thousand Sons fuckery. The Changeling did his thing and, despite everyone being quite reasonable, got Fenris bombarded by the dark angels.

please go on, or reference me where I can find this shit, do love me some dark angels

>>221386

Like >>221406 said, conduct like that is forbidden, and will get you killed by the commissariat. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just that if the perpetrators get caught, they get blammed.

>>221387

Cadia might have fallen already. The 13th Dark Crusade was kind of retconned back to before it all went south, but the Mechanicus codex mentioned Mordax Prime as Moredakka, which means the 13th Dark Crusade isn't really retconned after all.

So I guess whether Cadia has fallen or is on the verge of falling depends on which point in the timeline you're at.

>>221413

Cypher also did some shit, and the "voice of the Emperor" who is totally not Cypher.

>>221450

It's in the recent campaign book. Basically, the Wulfen returned with a giant daemon incursion at their heels, some DA guys got killed an the Changeling killed his way up the command chain of the DA and their fleet to manipulate them into thinking the Wulfen were full Chaos and the regular woofs were being corrupted.

>>221387

>Harlequins appearing in obscene numbers, preparing for the finale. Somehow they're going to make Slaanesh save the eldar.

That's real fucking dumb. Just stick with the Ynnead plan GW.

>>221523

As far as I know, the most muhdik gibsmedat guardsmen are the Savlar Chem Dogs, and I'm pretty sure they're kept on a short leash. The Imperium holds its soldiers to a high standard, and for good reason. Professional soldiers that can keep themselves in line are always better than a bunch of unwashed savages.

>>221524

Didn't the "Voice of the Emperor" cause the Imperial forces in the Sector to get their shit together and resist the enemy?

Wasn't there some Alpha Legion fuckery involved as well?

>>221534

Yea, either he was raising rebellion in order to cause a diversion, or it was to draw out rebellious elements so the Imperial forces could smash them. Hard to say for sure.

>>217222

The Cain novels already mention an Arbiter Foreboding.

How much shit can Rogue Traders get away with?

We're considering playing a Rogue Trader campaign and the players are asking if everyone except the Rogue Trader himself can be an abhuman or xeno.

>>221539

*Arbitrator Foreboding

>>221547

Basically anything, short of painting Chaos stars everywhere. Want to have a harem of deldar wyches and a bodyguard of ork freebootas? Why not.

>>221547

Sounds like a super bad idea if you want to have any sort of connection with Imperial society.

Best would likely to have a large front of normal humans and only bring out the cricus freakshow when you're out on the frontier.

>>221558

This. Though if they can be disguised reasonably it's probably not that much of a problem. Emperor forbid an Inquisitor or some Ecclesiarchs take interest in attaining proof of your purity though.

Though as the DM by all means throw one or both of those groups at your players to give them a taste of the consequences of entertaining such deviant and degenerate company.

>>221526

Eyy, different faction different objective

>>221547

Rogue Traders are direct line of descent, only humans. Since Abhumans breed true, it is incredibly unlikely for one to ever be recognized as heir.

They're limit is going directly against the will of the imperium and/or tampering with the ruinous powers, which would be unprofitable anyways. All else up to that is ok if extremely dangerous.

Essentially they are given sovereignty over themselves. In a sense they form autonomous trade empires on the outskirts of the imperium, being one of the very few connections to xenos races. Money, sweet money, is a power unto itself and a good substitute for faith in the emperor as far as corruption goes.

>>221558

>>221559

I brought that up to them, and they said it would add to the challenge. I'm still debating it, but it seems like it could be fun.

>>221560

They said that whoever played the RT would be the only pure human. I'm assuming he or she will probably have some weird obsession with mutants and aliens.

>>217248

>too simple to possess

I wouldn't be too sure of that. In Damocles, some warp entities or ghosts keep whispering in Shadowsun's suit comms long after she leaves Agrellan.

>>221574

That is an experimental suit that had every bit of collective Tau knowledge and resource dumped into it.

Didn't know it until now, but half of those new 40k webms are coming from Karl the Deranged, not AlfaBusa.

And if you had any doubts as to /tg/ influence, one of his episodes has a certain camel salesman.

>>221591

Karl's pretty great.

Where is the cheap place besides ebay to get forgeworld stuff anymore? I remember that one chinese guy that made bootlegs that got posted around on halfchan but I never trusted it enough to use it. I want to start some Kriegers without bankrupting myself.

>>221599

Just model them yourself.

>>221600

I hate that this is probably the most reasonable and affordable option.

>>218392

>You

In such a scenario Chaos would be real, so I would instantly start massacring kikes and degenerates in hopes of finding enough favour with the Blood God to become his chosen champion on Earth and create the Chaos cult that will eventually call for the legions of Chaos to judge and purify this world in the name of the Lord of Battle.

>Family

Psychological collapse. I don't care.

>Nation

Would probably whore out to the Imperium as soon as they find out who they're dealing with.

>World

Would mostly accept the Imperial rule with a few nations going full retard and getting obliterated in return.

>>221599

Zanchui has pretty good Kriegers yea. The barrels and especially bayonets are precarious as fuck, but he's got a bigger selection of them than CC has and I think they're cheaper too. They also have some of the OOP stuff like the Death rider commissar etc.

>>221605

Woah, how edgy.

>>221977

>chaos

>not maximum edge

Tautology, thy name is anon.

I need help making a low model count army. I was told Grey Knights was best for low model count so could anyone help me cobble together an 1850pts Gay Knits list?

>>222016

Azariah Vidya, chapter founder.

>>222017

>Azariah Vidya

I thought you were pulling my leg. Wow, that's an odd coincidence.

>>222014

>>222014

i TRIED http://puu.sh/nnP0T.html

>>222018

>Wow, that's an odd coincidence

Not as much of one as you think

With the amount of 40k stuff that has a name based in religion and mythology the name was probably going to pop up sooner or later.

Vidya is an epithet of the hindu goddess Sarasvati, whose domain is knowledge and learning. Since the Blood Magpies made their debut in the Dawn of War series, someone in the lore team probably decided to make the connection to video games with the name Vidya

If anyone ever wanted to model the inside of a ship there are a good bunch of Armorcast terrain models. Fallout motif matches surprisingly well with the 40k aesthetic.

Still can't find good bulkheads materiel though.

>>221977

>making the world a better place by ridding it of rats and cockroaches and getting rewarded for it because my God is actually real

>edgy

>>222108

1. Don't

2. Run away, forget you ever saw it

3. If you haven't done 1 or 2 your wallet is forfeit.

If you want the rundown on lore watch vid related and the one afterward.

If you want to play then take out a loan. There are starter sets with a few marines and a few teeny pots of paint that are fine for trying it out. Otherwise go to ebay for everything. Or I'd say that a month ago, they now have bundles that save money!

Older codexes are beautiful, but modern ones will get you more people to play with. Older metal models are more emotive, but modern plastic ones are more customizable. Choppy armies are slightly funner to make, but shooty armies are more viable in the current rules. Orks, chaos space marines, and Tyranids are currently in the rule shitter.

Otherwise there are three big rpg's, the vidyas, many specialist games, and a fuckton of books. It is the most expansive and all encompassing IP since the holy bible, and surprisingly has a similar message at its core. 1d4chan for the fun truth pulling from all sources, lexicanum for wikipedia style cited "canon".

Remember one thing while reading anything about 40k. Everything written is canon, but not everything canon is true. There are about a dozen interpretations of the emperor's pivotal fight with Horus. Entire factions have had their looks revamped. Hell, space marines were originally super Judge Dredd's. "Warhammer 40,000 is plastic crack" is an understatement.

>>222085

The one that says that emperor is a god and everyone should worship him? Or the one that says that you should never respect your parents and wear spikes on all of your stuff?

>>222123

Looks gay enough

>>222111

Same book, different editions.

Also, sick dub-trips. Checked.

>>222123

The math on that is a little…off.

>>222127

how so

>>222085

>World Eaters

>Reading

>>222130

woulndt stealers pretty much rape terminators to death in melee combat? i seem to remember them being, oh idk, INITIATIVE 6, WS 6, WITH RENDING CLAWS

>>222147

it's not like space marines aren't trained to kill things or anything.

>>222146

>implying they aren't completely normal when not fighting

>>222111

The one that says how humans and Cx

Chaos can coexist in symbiosis without one being subservient to the other.

>>222168

Do you know anything about the Butcher's Nails?

>>222168

>World Eaters

>not fighting

>implying

>>222173

Bitch, read Betrayer. They can go for about a month without any fighting and still not suffer any of the side effects.

Does anyone has that old White Dwarf guide on how to make a Land Speeder out of a deodorant ?

>>222083

Yes, yes you are.

And not the silly edgyness of a black crusade game, but the cringy edgyness of a teenage boy.

>>222262

We take a predator or a Land Raider and we mix it with a Hammerhead or Falcon Grav-tank

That's all I can think of

AV should be the same of a regular Predator, all weapon choices remain the same but including the Executioner cannon because reasons

Why not, it could be a fun homebrew

>>222262

GW seems really confused on the nature of Imperial grav tech in general. Some books and fluff makes it obvious that gravcars are a thing, and grav tech is used in a lot of stuff like landspeeders and shuttles, but somehow they can't make much of grav bikes anymore because they lost the STC.

>>222277

Could just fluff it as a specialised MBT or even a grav version of the Leman Russ or Predator, designed for swamps, deserts etc.

>>222277

>>222313

Sounds fun

Let's get to it

>>222170

That's funny, every depiction of the word bearers in the fluff portrays them as looking down on and despising humans, thinking of them as less than cattle. And Chaos seems to have a very parasitical relationship with humanity. Just look at what happens to people who fall into khorne or slaanesh worship; they lose themselves, and become machines of violence or hedonism.

>>222234

That was before Khorne got into their heads.

>>222342

>There is literally nothing wrong with the search of glory in war.

Right up until it turns on those you care for. Kaela Mensha Khaine ring a bell? War without purpose is ruinous.

>>222342

>And to be fair, that attitude applies to pretty much all Astartes excluding the Salmanders

Don't think so. Marines will often look down on humans, even think of them as lesser folk than their Ubermensh heights, but they will still at least try to protect them, and can be impressed by worthy deeds and pluck. They are also what Marines are moulded from, something they are oft-encouraged to remember.

Now, the Marines Malevolent and a handful of others fit that to a tee. But that is what they are, the outliers at the opposite end from the Salamanders, Wolves, and Ultras.

>>222342

>And to be fair, that attitude applies to pretty much all Astartes excluding the Salmanders.

>what are Lamenters

>what are space woofs

>what are, yes, the Ultramarines, and most of their successors

And while most astartes may not act like knights in shining armor, they most certainly do not treat humans as bad as the word bearers do. I don't recall a time when loyalists marines invaded a world, murdered most of the populace, and enslaved the survivors, forcing them to build a giant monument to the Emperor.

>>222364

Because that was the Ecclesiarchy.

>>222384

Not even the military wing of the Ecclesiarchy does that unless the planet is heretical.

I remember reading about religion in the Imperium and you're free to worship whatever you want if you accept the Emperor as your god as well. You have a certain degree of religious freedom unless you are worshiping aliens or chaos and talking shit about the Emperor.

>>222147

isn't that the broodlord?

I remember being stomped a russian guy who used them and i swear they were ws 4, in higher than WEQ 3-4 A with rending bullshit

I haven't played in months, and I thought about getting back into it, but of course my space marine codex is outdated.

Anyone have links to that dropbox that has all the codexes? I lost it a while ago. Also, is Clan raukan still a viable codex?

>>222492

Just play a Legion list

>>222492

But it's a fluff army with models quite literally taken from the units of renown in the clan raukkan book!

>Legion List.

I ain't no 30k man, I just wanna 40k every now and then and I haven't played these guys in awhile.

>>222492

>Clan raukan still a viable codex?

It was updated for 7th, so yes

You can still run Smashfucker as you please…

>>222500

>tfw you use a command squad on foot becasue you like how the banner looks.

it's seriously a fluffy list. It even has dreadnoughts with an assault cannon!

Still need to get a copy of el codex.

>>222492

http://wh40klib.ru/codex/

Failing that, try kickasstorrents.

>>222515

The religious freedom really just depends on whether or not the Ecclesiarchy has a base on your planet. Feral and even lower level civilized worlds are likely to be lacking a lot of the standard Imperial infrastructure, and would thus be left to their own devices unless they do something to catch someone's' attention.

>>222515

>I'm 95% percent sure that's bullshit.

No, it's pretty accurate. Imperium is loosely based on Rome, and in Rome you could do whatever you want with regards to worship as long as you got the Imperator in there somewhere. More civilized worlds tend to be a bit more structured with a common canon, but that isn't a requirement.

So been away from 40k for a while. WTF is going on with GW, those "start collecting" sets arent blatant banditry, are they changing there ways or is this a trap that I have already fallen for?

>>222547

Depending on the box it could very well be a trap. Some, like the Skitari box, is great value for units you'd definitely want multiple of, but then you've got the Ork box on the other hand throwing shitty units no one wants at poor noobs and presenting it as somehow being a integral core of an army.

>>222515

>Nonsense. They will die one day, and I'd rather have them die while basking in the glory of combat. Only the weak would let their raw emotions shape their worldview.

And then there's no one left to continue. I'd rather support the system that promises a tomorrow, then one that will burn out today.

>Fuck the Eldar. And there is no such thing as war without purpose, only a pacifist cuck would even think that.

"Because a god told me too" isn't a valid reason, pawn of Chaos.

>CSM are still Astartes, Word Bearers are just one of the extremes you mentioned because they're a dysfunctional legion that follows the word of a traitor and a backstabber, NOT their primarch.

All the CSM act like that, there isn't a single one that doesn't treat humans like meat.

>>222605

I think there're some SM Legion rules that let you do Terminator only stuff, I'm not sure, aside from that, uh, maybe Deathwing? Fuck that's just so many termies I really don't know.

>>222703

Well, the more you know.

I suppose the easiest lore explanation would that two or three chapters worth of materials were put into one chapter. Either they were formed out of these two, or they were tasked with reclaiming a world and found an intact fortress monastery on it. I'm thinking a Hrud migration is to blame. The fools thought they could stand their ground, turned to dust within their own armor.

About fucking time

I suppose…

>>222739

Holy shit yes. This means they're probing the community to see if it's still alive, with enough sales they might decide DoW 3 is worth the effort.

>>222742

>And who said the goal was to fight ourselves into extinction? The very idea behind the concept of 'Eternal War' is that it doesn't stop. The moment it does Khorne will cease to exist.

Unless you think Khorne is going to resurrect you when you die, you're going to need humans. Humans to maintain your gear, or turn into more marines. To keep those humans alive, you need other humans, to make food to feed them, clothes and shelter to keep them from dying from the elements, and weapons to keep them alive. You'll need other humans to protect them and keep them in line, since no one wants to be part of an empire where the goal is "fuck shit up forever, stability is for fags". Even the Blood Pact are founded around spreading their culture to other worlds. Unless you think a 10,000 year old super human berzerker is suited to police work, of course. To maintain an "Eternal War", you'll need an empire. Something Chaos has failed to create, despite having ten thousand years to get it right.

>Says the cuck that uses 'divine mandate from muh emporer' as a reason to wipe out whole species. The only difference is that our God actually exists.

The moment we discover a xenos that doesn't try and stab us in the back, we'll consider not killing them. No divine mandate needed, when you have all of human history to turn to. And if you want to blame anyone for worshiping the Emperor as a god, blame yourselves.

>Oh, did you make a survey?

If you have a counter-example to the 10,000 years of "let no good deed go unpunished, let no evil deed go unrewarded", I'd be glad to see it.

>>222744

Might be the case

To see if people are still interested in DOW

>>222742

Read the Blood of the Martyrs Dark Heresy supplement.

It says that planets can deviate far enough to where two planets that the Ecclesiarchy says are normal Emperor-fearing planets can hate each other and claim that the other is the vilest of heretics.

It basically says that as long as you praise the Emps and reject chaos you're cool. There are some things like cannibalism and other extremes that the church does not condone, but other than that…

>>222745

>To maintain an "Eternal War", you'll need an empire. Something Chaos has failed to create, despite having ten thousand years to get it right.

Looks like you're forgetting all the Daemon worlds and shit in the warp. They have their own Daemonforges to create materiel, and ample amounts of enslaved population. And looking at the Blood Pact, troops and marauders that the Chaos forces drag along with them, there's reason enough to assume that there are similar societies in the warp. Barbaric cultures where the slave-morality of the Imperium is cast away, where strength and cunning is the only way to rise above the dregs.