/tg/ - Traditional Games

Are you asking about homebrews? I'm still trying to make a rules-light generic game with idiot-proof character creation, but still has something interesting to it.

But all my interesting ideas break down in the world of a generic system and thus I have to put them in setting-specific projects. One of which is actually a semi-original game I might get to publish within the year.

I love it and I am proud of it but I desperately want me generic game to come to fruitition as well. There's something missing from Savage Worlds, FATE, GURPS, etc.. that I am trying to bridge the gap of. Savage Worlds has many wonky rules, FATE is too narrative, GURPS is too rules heavy and too gritty… sadly my game might just be a boring amalgram of the three.

>>225287

I wanna hear about anything you've homebrewed that's final fantasy related. Your own unique system or a sytem you've modified.

Specifically about final fantasy, because everyone I've ever talked to has dabbled in it at least a little.

I'm not actually guilty of this personally, but I did have a friend that tried something similar (by modding 3.5, rather than 3rd ed.) I was more guilty of trying to shill a shitty d20 Zelda system that I found online.

I don't remember much, but the one thing I do remember clearly was a Limit Break system that involved rolling all of the dice in a set (so 1d4, 1d6, 1d8, etc.) and trying to get them to roll certain numbers. If you rolled the right numbers, you got an effect based on your class, all of which were either stupid or OP as fuck. Like Fighters having every successful attack being crits, Sorcerers being able to cast spells for free, etc.

For years now I've wanted to play a Red Mage, primarily based on the FFXII version. It'll probably never happen though. There's only one other guy with much interest in Final Fantasy in the whole group, and he isn't even as into the series as I am.

Incidentally, OP, what's that picture all about?

>>225324

The picture's from Dissidia 012, the PSP fighting game where all the main characters and villains fought for chaos and order.

>>225292

lets hear about your legend of zelda game, anon.

>>225324

Poster for Dissidia, the FF fighting game.

On topic, I played a campaign where every character was from a different video game and we went through the plot of FF1 crossed with Kingdom Hearts crossed with FF9. It was weird as shit since the GM wanted to keep the mechanics of each character similar to how they worked in the games while also allowing classes from FF1 to be mixed with the keyblades from KH and the skills from FF9.

>>225338

That sounds fucking insane, anon

>>225342

It was a clusterfuck of epic proportions. I was Mega Man Trigger from Mega Man Legends, my class was Black Mage, and I had Quina's abilities so I was also a Blue Mage. In keeping with my game, I could turn junk into equippable items and my default weapon was my Mega Buster. My character was the least fucked up in our party.

Had a setting that was partially inspired by FFVII and FFX, with ASOIAF thrown in for good measure.

So you had several kingdoms fighting each other over dominance, and then the dead stopped going away. At the moment, one of the kingdoms is secretly run by an undead king who's obsessed with destroying the guys who murdered him, there's a group of undead knights running around and hunting war criminals hoping that they can finally die once they atone, and there's an undead Godzilla born from a battlefield stomping around the countryside and destroying everything in his path. There's a new religion on the rise, that claims that this is all happening because they Sinned and the undead monstrosity is their divine punishment. Others are convinced that this is the curse of the Precursor race, whom humanity exterminated long ago (there's a bit of VI in there).

As if that wasn't bad enough, recently several ancient demigod-things came crashing from the heavens, hoping to use the situation to their advantage and gain more power over their enemies.

It's a clusterfuck.

>>225335

>>225338

I was guessing Dissidia because of the crossover aspect, but it looked nothing like the Nomura illustrations I associated with it.

>>225347

Sounds like a mess. Also sounds like the kind of thing I wish my group would do. You can only run generic D&D style settings and characters so many times before it starts feeling stale. But playing basically any character from any game? The only difficult thing would be choosing which.

Of course, while my group has gamers and it has weebs, I'm the only serious weeb gamer, weirdly enough. So even if it did happen, I'd just end up with party members like the generic MC from Skyrim and the generic MC from Fallout 3 and so on.

>>225356

The limit was that the characters had to be from a Playstation game. We had Mega Man Trigger, Naked Snake, Kratos, and Ratchet/Clank. All of us had keyblades. Since my character was already detailed, Naked Snake was a Thief and had the skills of Steiner, Kratos was a White Mage with the skills of Zidane, and Ratchet/Clank was a Fighter with the skills of Dagger.

All of us had unique progression mechanics. It took about 4 hours for us to fully create our characters. We had about 4 sessions before we all agreed that it was a silly idea and that we should go back to just playing 4e.

>>225286

No, the only thing everyone's done is try to plan an adventure based on the lyrics to Hotel California.

>>225363

Great, now I want to do that. Fuck you, Anon.

>>225363

>he hasn't done so already in Unknown Armies

>being such a pleb

>>225360

>Kratos was a White Mage with the skills of Zidane

>Ratchet/Clank was a Fighter with the skills of Dagger

>Snake was a Thief and had the skills of Steiner

I think you mixed the names.

>>225379

Nope. We got to choose an FF1 class and an FF9 character. The combinations were insane and nonsensical to the extreme.

>>225383

Okay, I want storytime. Now.

>>225388

Ok, so no shit there we were: 5 motherfucking nerds around a table, the epic campaign had just concluded, and Ferret looks at Bro, Ho, Me, and Pretzel and says, "So…what're we going to do next week?"

Bro looks at me and says, "You got another campaign set up?"

>Fuck no, I don't have another campaign. You were supposed to LIVE through this one! There wasn't supposed to be a pyrrhic victory!

"Not yet. I'm a little spent after that campaign. It's going to take a while to whip something up."

So Bro says, "Ok. Anyone have something they'd like to run?"

Pretzel says, "I got this idea, just bring your dice and a blank character sheet and I'll do the rest."

Well all-fucking-right! I get to play! Right on, Pretzel!

So a week passes. Boom. At Ferret's place, 1930 on Sunday night.

Pretzel got there an hour early to set up. Ferret texts me on the way that the campaign is going to be "pants-on-head-retarded." No mention if that's retardedly good or retardedly bad.

Pretzel says, "What's your favorite Playstation game?"

So I say, "Mega Man Legends 2."

Ferret says, "Final Fantasy 7."

Pretzel says, "No Final Fantasy."

So Ferret says, "God of War."

Ho says, "Metal Gear Solid 3."

Bro says, "Ratchet and Clank."

Pretzel tells us to pick a class from FF1. I had to look up the classes, but we all picked. Then Pretzel says to decide which Final Fantasy is the best. 9 won, but only after about 15 minutes of argument with Ho because fuck FF13. Then Pretzel says to choose a character from FF9.

"OK Pretzel, now what?" says Bro.

"You've got your characters. You all start at level 5, we're going to use point buy for stats, I'll start making custom gear while you stat your characters."

"Which character? We've got 3 here." Ho.

"No, no, no. You've got 1 character. You use all 3."

Collective "What."

"Yeah, just roll with it, it's cool, it's a big crossover like an Elseworlds or Kingdom Hearts. Speaking of which, you're all keyblade wielders. I've already got those statted up. Go pick one up, Kratos gets two."

"What."

>>225396 continued

So about 4 hours later, give or take a break for dinner, we're actually playing. The setting is the flight deck of the USS Enterprise as it tumbles out of control in a reality nexus. Our enemies are Heartless that have fused with the forces of Al Qaeda and are now trying to fly the aircraft carrier into the One World Trade Center.

After fighting to the boss, Zombie bin Laden/Sephiroth with a chaingun arm and magical powers, we break free into a region of multiversal space where the rule of cool is the only truth. Heavy metal plays in the background as Kratos dropkicks bin Sephiroth's crotch on a critical break, sending him into low Terran orbit. We collectively surf an F-14 Tomcat to a stop mere feet from the Trade Center. We hop off and head for the mayor's office as cars and an aircraft carrier explode behind us. We roll to look cool and pass. None of us look back.

End first session.

>>225387

you already larp that every second of you life

>>225404

Why do people make rp settings out of books or movies? Because they want to do more in that setting. You act like you've never killed half your fellow X-men over a dispute involving a football.

>>225358

>FE homebrew

You could literally just play 4e.

You dense motherfucker.

>>225397

Beautiful. Do continue.

>>225430

>You could literally just play 4e.

>implying I'm so new to the tabletop scene that I wasn't trying this stuff back when 3rd edition was the new hotness

Some of us are older than 24, Anon.

>>225409

>You act like you've never killed half your fellow X-men over a dispute involving a football.

what?

>>225335

>lets hear about your legend of zelda game, anon.

There's really not much to say other than I'd try my damnedest to get my friends to play a D20 Zelda rpg that I found online. But I'll try to post it here so y'all can enjoy the autism (PDF is too large to post here, so direct link it is.) It wasn't very good, in retrospect.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/da.vane/ZeldaRPGSourcebook.zip

>>225436

Now I kinda want to play an X-men game, but all the rules for superhero tabletop kinda suck.

>>225436

I only heard about it second hand from my friend, but apparently they were playing OC mutants at the school. Jubilee apparently got on his bad side due to taking his jock character's football. He smacked her… she's a small Chinese American girl, he had super strength, and things escalated very quickly.

This friend had a tendency to talk me into game related actions that would get us both killed.

>>225457

I like Zelda games more than the next guy, but I can't say I've ever been so enamored with the setting alone that I really wanted to tabletop it. I always mostly liked the games for having a big world to explore with much more background/world interaction than most any other adventure type games had. So in other words, I like them for the gameplay. And that's the part that doesn't really come through when you convert something into a tabletop game. In that case it's all about the setting and its concepts and fluff and to me, Hyrule never really especially shined in that regard. Plus, that whole Triforce thing is a HUGE deal in the overall story and means that only three specific characters ever get to be particularly important. Which is a problem in the tabletop context for multiple reasons.

>>225605

>>225457

I had a story going that took place during the period of time where Link was sealed away inside the Temple of Time.

My 3 PC's were going to play as a Goron, a Zora and a Hylian. The first major story was going to be a giant battlefield where the royal army squared off against Ganondorf.

Basically the plot of the whole campaign was all the details they left out and why everything went to shit. The draining of Lake Hylia, the frozen Zora's Domain, the Goron getting locked inside the Fire Temple, I had it all ready to go.

Then everyone moved away :(

>>225605

>tfw when currently planning a D&D 5E game in post-Twilight Princess Hyrule when Link is fucking around in some other country, Zelda is busy being Zelda again and Ganondorf is waiting to be resurrected.

>the main villain would be a crazed Hylian sorcerer infected with a piece of Demise

>tfw balancing Hyrulean races is difficult

>>225659

>the main villain would be a crazed Hylian sorcerer infected with a piece of Demise

Would it still be Demise at that time, though? By then, Ganon was considered to be the end-all, be-all master of evil, and he's pretty much dead at this point (since Ganon is Demise's reincarnated physical form, and the Master Sword has the rest of Demise's demonic power sealed inside. Demise himself is pretty much forgotten). That being said, Ghirahim or some other long lost yet still loyal demon lieutenant would be just as viable of a villain in that case.

>tfw balancing Hyrulean races is difficult

My argument here would be "Does it look and act human? Then it's a Human." Hylians and Gerudo I could see using the various Elf subspecies (High for Hylian and Wood for Gerudo, though almost no Gerudo exist in Hyrule by this point so most are going to be "Half-Gerudo" like Telma.) For the Gorons and Zora, I'd say take the Water Genasi and Goliaths from Princes of the Apocalypse, grant some extra racial flavor where needed (Goliaths consume rocks for sustenance, Water Genasi are fish-men, etc.) and give them a simple rename. (The same could arguably be done with the Oocoo and Aarakocra, lowering their size to Small.)

You should be able to find those races mentioned here: http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/EE_PlayersCompanionv2.pdf

>>225286

Nah, never did that (hell, never played a Final Fantasy game, the closest I got was Lord of the Rings: The Third Age). I'm different breed of faggot entirely.

I tried to make a d20 Bionicle homebrew, back when all I knew was d20 games, using the Bionicle Encyclopedias as reference material.

My favorite FF is 5, and I love me some job systems. I even liked Bravely Default despite chapters 5 and 6 being fucking abysmal. Bravely Second looks like it has some good ideas, but I'm certainly not paying for it because I'm pretty sure they're going to pull some bullshit like the first game. I've played Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light as well, and some of the more esoertic classes (namely Seamstress, Party Planner (I believe this is a reference to host(ess) clubs in the Japanese version), and Scribe) reminded me of what was said about the apparently "we didn't even start it" Famicom "Final Fantasy 4". Namely the Cook and Carpenter jobs. Sort of reminds me of Fantasy Life, one of the worst purchases I ever let my friends talk me into. Still they had a good idea of "maybe classes don't need to be combat focused", although if you're mixing combat and non-combat classes, they'd better have some useful/basic stills in battle.

I guess what I'm saying is I'd rather do something with a job system than straight up Final Fantasy, which is probably how Bravely Default happened.

>>225352

this is nice, you should expand a little more the setting. maybe some bg

I once worked up rules for a Final Fantasy Tactics TCG to be played on a 10x10 grid

i never got around to making card graphics/stats but it was mechanically sound

>>225831

>Would it still be Demise at that time, though?

Well Demise is just that "ultimate evil" that stretches through all of hyrulean history. That's why Ganondorf looks a lot of him, why Malladus+Cole looks a lot like Ganon's boar form, etc…

In my headcanon the original creation of Ganondorf and the taint that thereby connected the Triforce of Power with the Demon King is parts of Demise leaking from the Master Sword back into the world. SHRUG

Ayy, taking a hint from EE may actually be really good advice, anon. Didn't even think of that. Thank you!

Races I have planned are:

Humans

Hylians

Zora

Gorons

Bulblin

Maybe Oocca

Maybe Intelligent Animals