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File: d727d185a97f26a⋯.jpg (208.62 KB, 861x1170, 287:390, s-l1600.jpg)

 No.399460

General for all things FoW.

I'm getting a bit tired of Magic, so I'm looking around for new card games. FoW seems to be pretty interesting, but they also seem to have stumbled a bit. There's a weekly tournament in my local area, so there should be at least a few people to play with.

Are the new starter decks a good starting-off point? Are there similar archetypes to magic? What does the meta look like and is there room for rogue decks to shine?

 No.399461

IIRC, some of the art was censored in the west.

I mean if you're playing and not collecting you may not care, since the art is irrelevant compared to how the cards work.


 No.399482

>>399461

I initially thought the above image was just a fan edit. I looked into it and the company behind fow should do more seasonal promos. There's no reason to ever cater to sjws.


 No.399494

>>399461

Where can I find all the censored art?


 No.399504

>>399460

Only one person at my LGS plays Force of Will so it's assumed here that it's dead


 No.399507

>>399504

Yeah, this game is pretty much dead.

Try Keyforge for something fresh instead.


 No.399519

OG player who got into it the moment it came out in the west here: Shits dead as fuck. FFCTG entirely replaced it. It was a nice idea but they were too consumed with being weebzards of the coast and expanded to quickly and nearly collapsed trying to make cross media shit including movies. Cards are worthless. Most sets extinct in the wild, best cards in sets you cant find anymore. It died in months. RIP.


 No.399562

>>399519

>FFCTG

The Final Fantasy tcg? Wasn't that cancelled some months back? I wonder what went wrong there? I heard about the movie that they were trying to make? Why on Earth would anyone make a movie out of something so new? A better move would have been to make a game like Duel Links.

>>399507

>Keyforge

It seems pretty interesting. I'll look into some more for sure.

>>399494

I think there are only two pieces of censored art. Cheshire Cat and Zero.


 No.399635

File: 6c55e50f74687ca⋯.jpg (85.17 KB, 480x670, 48:67, 005j.jpg)

File: 5cecaf3a8930aab⋯.jpg (77.18 KB, 480x670, 48:67, 009.jpg)

File: e4c00deb7cbf7ef⋯.jpg (94.86 KB, 480x670, 48:67, 012.jpg)

The game's still scraping by in my area despite FoW Co.'s fuckups, with at least four people showing up every week at my LGS for tournaments. There's a handful of people playing online through untap.in too if there's no one to play with on paper.

>>399460

The new light starter in particular's pretty good; it floods the board with graveyard recursion until you win, and if that fails, you get a readily-available board wipe in your rune deck.


 No.399642

>>399562

FFTCG is a serious contender to yugioh in some countries, mostly because 'hey i know this brand/character' shit. Its currently up to its 8th booster set release in the west and has a large tournament scene around the world.

Meanwhile outside south america force of will is dead and in south america its, naturally, being killed off by the new dragonball card game because its fucking dragonball.


 No.399694

>>399642

I was under the impression that the FFTCG had folded up already. If that isn't the case, I'm going to check it out as well. My only initial gripe with it is that I don't like the 3d art style that they have on some cards. To me, that kind of art is lazy for cards. It looks like someone took a screenshot from a videogame. A few of my friends are getting into the dragonball tcg, so I might check that out as well. Are there deck archetypes in FF and DB? That is, is there an aggro deck, control deck, etc?

>>399635

There's a weekly tournament at my lgs, so I think I'll pick one up and give it a shot.


 No.399696

>>399507

Keyforge removing deck building is a bold but ultimately retarded move in my opinion, part of the appeal of a card game is making your own deck after all and they completely axed that. It isn't even like drafting where you have some control over it and are still deck building, just with different restrictions, so I can't imagine that crowd will care either.


 No.399708

>>399694

Final Fantasy is mostly huge because of the brand but it is a fun game since you can mix and match but theres also synergy between stuff from the same videogames. So something might say "if a character is a black mage" which could be dozens of cards, or "if a character is listed as FFV" which is its own set of cards. But things can be both. Along with stuff like party mechanics it feels like a much faster magic which was force of wills original goal before its "three sided cards" style horseshit and extreme, rapid mechanic bloat.

Super meanwhile is kind of a legitimate scam. Like starter decks have exclusive cards that may have one god tier card that 'the meta' requries you to run three of, so better buy 3 starter decks goyim, but thats just 3 cards for a competitive deck, throw the rest out and start buying boosters.

The silk shirt crowd might keep it alive for a while but its far too greedy. Even by magic standards. Fuck even by GW standards.


 No.399728

When is Square Enix making a simulator for the FF TCG with a single player campaign?

The Yu-Gi-Oh games managed to milk a lot out of it. They only really stopped because Konami went full retard and shut down everything but pachinko, then fucked over Yu-Gi-Oh with horribly thought out new rules. Some of them are even legit good games on their own.

Shandalar and the Pokemon TCG games were also good fun.


 No.399738

>>399728

video games that cover tcgs are a great way to market and get people into the game for the first time or back into it. I stopped playing Yugioh years ago, but Duel Links got me interested in it again. Having said that, I think Konami went full on retarded with the new game mechanics. Duel Links is on synchro summons and that seems cool, but everything past it except for maybe xyz seems pretty iffy. I'm playing Arena, but I think it's still behind Duel Links in terms of things to do. It might be that Arena is stuck in standard, whereas Online can do modern as well. If it were easier to get cards like it is in Duel Links, I think Arena would be a great way to test out new deck ideas.

>>399708

I think I am going to give the FF tcg a shot. I just wish they would stop doing the cg cards. They look cheap in comparison to the usual artwork you see from them in FFXIV.


 No.399745

File: 495751e0d525a14⋯.jpeg (48.9 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 1a_5062e09a-2988-444b-a41….jpeg)

>>399738

problem solved nerd.


 No.399851

>>399745

I picked it up, so I just need to find a group to play it with now. If that fails, there's a nearby fow group and plenty of magic groups.


 No.405457

So I decided to take another look at this game to see why the fuck it's still alive after the disaster that was vingolf 2. Apparently vingolf 3 saved the game and now it's incredibly expensive to obtain sealed as it had a short print run. It also rotated out so you can't play it standard anyways. After that they've fucked with the pull rates on some meta cards so now the one I want is almost unobtainable as well.

Returning players get fucked


 No.405459

>>405457

>FoW is a clusterfuck of mismanagement

So you are saying it was a weekday?


 No.405545

File: 4710b615ae6a88f⋯.jpg (79.47 KB, 482x601, 482:601, 8f8c91ea05d96ab11adbf6f807….jpg)

>pull the trigger and get into both FoW and FFTCG

>ded as fuck in my area

I should've justtried to get back into yugioh


 No.405582

>>405545

card games are dead senpai, its all about shadespire now.


 No.405757

>>405459

I tried playing it today, even with all the new shit, it's still better than Magic by a wide margin. Plus it's seems like corporate has started to learn from the retarded mistakes it's made in the past, so the game is on the rise again.

>>405545

YGO is dead where I live too, the only thing alive near me is MTG. Won't stop me from driving an hour to get to a pre-release on Saturday.


 No.406303

File: 5c6799911e3ede5⋯.png (358.9 KB, 756x776, 189:194, time walk banned.png)

File: 0151243e8e3328e⋯.png (1.18 MB, 1252x912, 313:228, ancestral recall banned.png)

File: dca72bc9d0e63d6⋯.jpg (346.96 KB, 371x517, 371:517, actual size.jpg)

>>405757

They're getting more proactive with bannings now, instead of letting Tier 0 shit run rampant long enough to put the game in life support for the billionth time. Now they need to figure out how to make full arts that are actually readable.


 No.406410

File: 4ecaac2d6462354⋯.jpg (681.6 KB, 999x1296, 37:48, b.jpg)

Nobody showed up to my prerelease. At least Dark Alice is cute.


 No.406444

File: e38227ff89ce9cc⋯.jpg (1.31 MB, 1632x1224, 4:3, two ruined earths.jpg)

File: 7abf450dd80a17e⋯.jpg (1.23 MB, 1632x1224, 4:3, snv prerelease deck.jpg)

Did any other anons attend the prerelease? Pulled two Ruined Earths and a Soul Prison; looks like higher powers want me to run Lucifer once the set's out. However, I didn't do too hot during my matches, finishing 1-2. For the match I won, my opponent didn't see that he had on-the-dot lethal with Misteltein on a cluttered board. Maybe I'd have done better if I didn't go full Timmy on Ruined Earth, since stone destruction doesn't actually kill your opponent.

>>406410

Have a (You) for showing up. Did you pull anything else of note, at least?


 No.406500

>>406444

>>406410

>Tfw that guy you know is single handedly trying to keep a dead game alive in your area.

Its like the binary opposite of 'that guy' but far less effective, godspeed in your probably futile quests.


 No.406524

>>406410

>>406444

>pre-releases and limited formats in a game that requires legendary cards

How does this work? Is it like a themed pre-release pack in MTG where you get to choose, or is there a separate booster, or what?


 No.406537

>>406444

I didn't hear about a pre-release in my area or else I would have attended. FoW really should think about putting out a mobile game like Duel Links or Magic Online to help build up interest. It doesn't have to be fancy like Arena or Hearthstone. It just has to help get more players interested into the card game as a whole. Eventually, a portion of them will want the actual physical cards to collect as well and that will lead to more players to play with.


 No.406539

>>406537

I would love to play a new digital TCG that doesn't suck cock furiously since Hex is dead and I have a big digital TCG hole in my heart (that all these shit Hearthstone clones cannot fill)


 No.406553

File: dae18401136327b⋯.jpg (773.39 KB, 1224x1632, 3:4, a.jpg)

File: d8356255b1990c2⋯.jpg (566.46 KB, 919x1233, 919:1233, c.jpg)

File: 038ab0bc0a175df⋯.jpg (589.92 KB, 1628x1006, 814:503, d.jpg)

>>406444

Here are the hits, the playmat and dark alice doll were given to me as a consolation prize for no players.

>>406524

You are now given "basic" commanders for your decks when you attend a limited event. They are in a separate pack inside the box along with the promo and some basic lands. This time it was Dark Alice Doll as pictured above.


 No.406555

>>406537

They tried this with the now discontinued "Force of Will Battle Simulator." It was an underdeveloped shitshow that didn't include cards from older sets. Now everyone just plays on either LackeyCCG or untap.in.


 No.406642

File: c74e9855150a786⋯.jpg (544.36 KB, 958x1296, 479:648, ruler.jpg)

File: 22a28930d77942a⋯.jpg (535.99 KB, 976x1272, 122:159, ruler2.jpg)

rare and valuable bunbun


 No.406646

How's the Fire Emblem TCG?


 No.406648

>>406553

>given to me as a consolation prize for no players.

Sounds like a healthy scene.


 No.406655

File: fb7324baa193e72⋯.png (1.11 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, wix.png)

Whats a good website where I can buy FoW boosters from?


 No.406657


 No.406670

>>406655

Other than TCGPlayer and eBay, you can try Potomac Distribution for the upcoming set plus some sets that have rotated out. There's also your LGS if they carry FoW stuff.


 No.407158

Was there a low print run for the Valhalla starter decks? I can't seem to find any online now.


 No.407527

File: 97e2ad1a432feea⋯.gif (613.61 KB, 385x355, 77:71, the weather is rain.gif)

>>407158

It's weird hearing people mention how perpetually out of stock the NV starters are, yet my shop's always got a good number of them on the front counter. There was a low print run for the NV starters nonetheless, and I've heard that even though FoW Co. promised starter deck reprints with each set this cluster, distributors are holding back until there's much more demand for them.


 No.407586

>>407527

>I've heard that even though FoW Co. promised starter deck reprints with each set this cluster, distributors are holding back until there's much more demand for them

It's hard to create more demand when the starters are the gateway for most into the game. They really do need at least one more print run of them this set.


 No.407668

>>406410

What a cutie. This game should go digital. I have no interest in interacting with people at a LGS. Also, it's a pain to get there, especially now that it's winter here in the north. They should cater to people like me.


 No.407670

>>406444

How's the limited format? I'm really liking the art, so I think I'll give the game a try.


 No.407673

>>407527

It's a weird, self-defeating strategy that's not doing anyone any favors. I get why a store would refrain from heavily investing in a game that might not pay off, though. There's been enough Japanese TCGs out there that have tried to gain enough of a footing only to fizzle out in very short time. Why waste any money on another one if there's no guarantee that people will buy it and when brick and mortar stores are already operating on a razor thin margin.


 No.407678

>>407670

If you can find a shop that regularly does limited other than prereleases, go for it. Otherwise, it's constructed or bust, since untap.in doesn't support limited formats for FoW yet, and that's where everyone's playing online. As for the format itself, I haven't played enough limited to be the judge for that. I'd like to play sealed or draft more, but my shop doesn't do weekly limited FoW and I don't want to give money to Wizards of the Coast.


 No.407755

>>407668

A digital iOS/Android app of the game would help a lot. Make it in a way similar to Duel Links where it doesn't cost as much to make and it doesn't require as much to run. It just has to show people how to play the game, have good artwork and be fun/simple to play, so that people come back for more. They can then run events to keep people interested. If people get hooked on the game, they'll likely want the physical cards to collect at the very least. That'll help get more people playing the physical game as well. FoW just has to be a fun card game that isn't completely pozzed like magic currently is. The chase cards are fine as that'll give people a reason to open packs, but won't keep them from playing with the cards as well. One of the major issues with Magic is that cards that do well in the eternal formats are either hard to get ahold of and/or their prices are absurd. Fetch lands being $40 a pop is retarded. You also have to worry about investors buying out card stocks in hopes of cornering the market on cardboard. Then there's the trend of socjus in Magic and that's only going to get worse.


 No.408361

>go into only flgs that sold fow

>entirely gone

>now more shelf space taken up by dragonball super than any other card game

good god


 No.408405

File: 7239f152363f333⋯.png (42.42 KB, 200x358, 100:179, thumb_this-is-how-you-kame….png)

>>408361

You can't stop DBS. This thread should be a catch-all-thread for weeb TCGs


 No.408409

Ordered an adk prerelease kit for bun because 90% of sellers on tcgplayer don't ship internationally 8=======D


 No.408654

JEFF GOT SHITCANNED


 No.408721

File: 8816675f68223d6⋯.png (302.75 KB, 582x582, 1:1, 1433120183813.png)

>>408654

>Hello Rulers~! Jeff here. As of February 1st, I will no longer be a part of FoW HQ. The Global Liaison position will be no more, and the company is not looking to fill it going forward. More details in the coming days. For any questions and support, please use the contact form located here: http://www.fowtcg.com/about/contact Good Game, Everyone~

The plot thickens....


 No.409513

File: af9373899bd683c⋯.png (59.12 KB, 506x1181, 506:1181, ded.png)

File: b8a4158831f9aac⋯.png (33.87 KB, 506x697, 506:697, gaem.png)

File: c2494e7f7a5112c⋯.gif (702.02 KB, 596x316, 149:79, c2494e7f7a5112cc52d1a77bc8….gif)

>still no details on Jeff's shitcanning

>fewer Worlds invites

>two canceled GPs

>US Region Lead stepping down

>US Head Judge getting shitcanned

DEAD GAME


 No.409520

>>409513

Good. Both of them were absolute cunts, especially Shaw. Memory serves, Hebert hid a big money handling scandal at one of the Las Vegas events, so he's a cunt too.

FoW has been dead for a long while, since the start of Reiya Cluster when they decided every new J-Ruler had to have a few support cards with some stupid gimmick that wasn't fun at all. At least Lapis J-Rulers were fun to use. Also RIP Pricia, the best girl.


 No.409541

So is this game worth getting into for English players or is it dead in the water?


 No.409550

>>409541

No its dead as fuck and the company is ner bankruptcy. I hate to call samefag but i think a lot of this thread is one guy trying to bootstrap some buzz around it but sadly the game was sent out to die.


 No.409551

>>409520

It was dying when the 'uhhh, and a anime, and a movie! and 3 sided cards!' shit started to go down. This is just a "we need to save money, drop the gaijin". Back in the post pokemon card boom you didnt go a month without a japanese tcg coming to the west, being a huge loss and returning to japan. Dragonball Super simply showed up and kill it. What weeb audience wasn't sticking to Pokemon, YuGiOh! and whatever the fuck 'buddyfight' is jumped on dragonball because its fucking dragonball. FoW never ever stood a chance.


 No.409560

>>409551

Eurofag here, I see DBZ all over the place but haven't seen anyone playing it let alone this stuff being sold.

Is the game even half decent?


 No.409594

>>409560

its mechanically sound but a total scam. For example they put out structure decks with one card per deck thats so OP the meta demands 3 of them, which means buy 3 decks or stay out of any constructed play goyim.


 No.409595

>>409550

There were a couple of us, but even I can see the writing on the wall. I'm going to pull out and try and cut my losses asap. EDH is where I'm headed because numagic is still shit.


 No.409614

>Grimm cluster: MOA

>Alice cluster: R/R, Vingolf 2

>Lapis cluster: Fox, Pricia

>Reiya cluster: Scheherazade, misprint rulers

>NV cluster: WPR rulers not finished in time, starter decks underprinted, Table Flip double-errata, whatever's happening now

Are these all the fuckups? Force of Will hasn't gone a single year without alienating everyone involved. The few online communities left are hugboxes that purge anyone critical of the game, distributors are wary of doing any business with the company, and management has to be fought tooth and nail just to make sure more Tier 0 crap doesn't bleed in; for the latest set, Jeff had to stop Dark Alice Doll from going infinite off of itself and Table Flip + Sandstorm from dealing massive damage for only one will. Anything short of a complete corporate purge and restructuring won't save the game at this point, because the company right now can't go two steps without life support. That better be what today's announcement is, otherwise it's back to Legacy for me.


 No.410825

>>408721

>>409513

It really does look like fow is about to completely die off unless >>409614 is correct and a complete restructuring/purge takes place. At the very least, this should show others how to not run a tcg.


 No.410860

>>409560

The only good DBZ game was Score DBZ TCG


 No.411121

Tried selling all my cards to someone for pennies on the dollar and he called me a scammer ;^( Time to crank up the price.


 No.411146

>>411121

the game is dead and cards are worthless. You played yourself.




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