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Technocracy Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 15:51:34 1a4b73 No.259

Hello fellow Transhumanists.
I am the board owner of >>>/urbanate/ a board dedicated to the discussion of Technocracy.
Because Transhumanism is integral to all modern Technocratic models, I feel that cooperation between our boards is only natural.

Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 05:58:55 6f31f2 No.266

Im fine with technocracy, if the ruler is a machine or a human turned one.

Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 07:15:46 1a4b73 No.267

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>>266
Most modern Technocratic models advocate exactly this. The automation of all work, including the Technates leadership positions. Is a goal that is of the up most importance to most modern Technocratic models.

Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 16:45:37 0a41d4 No.269

>>267
Planned economies work, but only when the planner is more intelligent than all of the people it is planning for put together. This is why ranches work, but communes don't.

Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 14:42:28 000000 No.286

interrupt_00h still visit the forums? I used to visit that board a lot (and was frequent poster) in 2004.

Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 18:02:16 820900 No.301

>>266

>if the ruler is a machine

>actually being okay with something completely alien ruling you while you sit back and be an irrelevant burden

Daddy didn't hug you enough?

Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 22:12:00 c7a9d3 No.302

>>301

> completely alien

you call it completely alien, I call it purpose-built.

Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 08:36:16 820900 No.303

>>302

Ya, purpose built to replace you. Might as well go willfully extinct and wait for evolution to provide the replacement. Same shit, just a different time frame.

>technology provides path to demigod status

>no, fuck that. I want someone to change my diapy and take all responsibilities from us while we go progressively more dysfunctional and crazy every year till nobody sane sees any point in keeping humanity alive anymore

This is spitting in the face of past generations who had to wade in mud and shit for eons to get us where we are now.

Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 01:41:41 c7a9d3 No.304

>>303

Wait, how is a ruler a replacement for a common citizen? They're two completely different jobs.

> no, fuck that. I want someone to change my diapy and take all responsibilities from us while we go progressively more dysfunctional and crazy every year till nobody sane sees any point in keeping humanity alive anymore

This is the biggest strawman ever. Anon only said that a non-human intelligence is necessary for a planned economy. Nothing about babysitting, nothing about responsibilities.

And it makes perfect sense too, if you remove the human element from economics, you've removed all of the selfishness, all of the greed.

Listen, I know you're easily frightened and have issues with your sense of agency, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with what anon said. Nothing you're bringing up is based on evidence whatsoever, it's all just impulse and feels.

Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 11:38:09 820900 No.307

>>304

>This is the biggest strawman ever. Anon only said that a non-human intelligence is necessary for a planned economy. Nothing about babysitting, nothing about responsibilities.

It's no strawman. "Ruler" is not interchangable with "diagnostics tools". You went full cettle.

>And it makes perfect sense too, if you remove the human element from economics, you've removed all of the selfishness, all of the greed.

Either the AI has no will and therefore it's at the mercy of people who run it and tweak it to come up with that they like to see or the AI is independent and therefore will be subject to it's own autismal oddities.

>Listen, I know you're easily frightened and have issues with your sense of agency, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with what anon said. Nothing you're bringing up is based on evidence whatsoever, it's all just impulse and feels.

Yeah. Me adressing what's been actually said (which you retroactively try to change - and then go on about strawmen, how cute) requires extensive research (because the pattern of givbing up the power over yourself for safwerty etc. isn't researched enough). The assertion that an AI can run an economy packed full of AIs and auged up people geared to game it for all they can rerquires nothing, nothing at all.