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Anonymous 01/02/15 (Fri) 11:56:20 05b326 No.44

>2015
>not being one with nature
>lel

Anonymous 01/02/15 (Fri) 13:07:07 a6a200 No.49

technology and nature are inseparable as you can't decide what qualifies as nature and what doesn't.
and if you believe that you can, you're simply drawing an imaginary line based on human concepts alone, not universal truths.
you would then have to say that a beaver's dam doesn't qualify as technology, which is wrong.
it's the most reactionary of the ideologies really.

Anonymous 01/02/15 (Fri) 15:55:47 357292 No.59

What you greenfags don't ever seem to grasp is that transhumanism doesn't have to be antropocentric. Infact many tramshumanists are more interested in genesplicing and biological technology than the silicon alternatives.

Anonymous 01/02/15 (Fri) 23:54:08 720ade No.75

>>49
There are no universal truths, and you're human too. If you can't understand the difference between natural and artificial, you're probably a defective human being.

Anonymous 01/02/15 (Fri) 23:57:19 7e6def No.76

>>75

"Natural" refers to objects created by evolutionary processes.

"Artificial" refers to directly sapience-derived objects.

If you prefer the former over the latter, what are you doing on the Internet?

Anonymous 01/03/15 (Sat) 20:15:58 a6a200 No.103

>>75
all things are done within nature. there is no separation outside of humans claiming that there is.
humans are nature therefore things done by humans are as well.

Anonymous 01/04/15 (Sun) 03:55:43 6670d9 No.111

>>59
this

Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 16:02:06 008516 No.138

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>any year
>not using your gloriously developed brain and uniquely capable body to work technological wonders

try evolving next time.

Anonymous 01/20/15 (Tue) 16:54:27 1079d4 No.143

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>>44
Choose Life.
Choose nature.
Choose hunting and gathering.
Choose tribalism.
Choose sand in your eyes, choose smelling like shit, walking around with bare legs, screams of prey animals and rotten food.
Choose bad health, diarrhea, and parasites.
Choose uncertainty in tommorow.
Choose living in caves.
Choose constant ingroup fighting over resources.
Choose being constantly cold.
Choose wearing an itchy toga made out of grass.
Choose making wooden tools and painting on walls with animaal blood on a rare free morning.
Choose staying on a guard duty watching trees move, stuffing fucking seeds into your mouth.
Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a puddle of mud, nothing more than an embarrasment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.
Choose your future.
Choose life.

Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 06:27:35 7e6def No.153

>>143

The transhumanism thread on /pol/ proves how many "people" intentionally choose exactly this

Kinda disturbing, but kinda funny because they're Luddites on the internet

Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 10:17:21 dd7367 No.160

>>153
Hold up. They're not wrong for wanting a more visceral lifestyle. They're not even wrong for wanting a stinking, gross, survivalist lifestyle. If they want it, that's their choice. What makes them wrong is that they think the solution is to go back, rather than to go forward.

The earth is too small to sustain 7 billion primitives, and dying from illness or wounds is not pleasant. Only transhumanism, with virtualities or person-survivable interplanetary travel, can give them that lifestyle, and it can do so much better than the real thing.

Frankly, the hunter-gatherer lifestyle is probably dull compared to what transhumanism can offer, but we should make it very clear that we intend to increase personal agency, not decrease it.

Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 11:01:58 1079d4 No.161

>>160
I'd even say that going back is just plain impossible. You can't stop the progress.

Anonymous 02/15/15 (Sun) 22:55:50 1376e8 No.202

Why not have both?

Transhuman technologies are inevitably going to make humans more capable of bearing the harsh realities of nature. This will make it less necessary to rely on cities, and all their infrastructure systems, as a bulwark against nature.

In a transhumanist future, why have roads? Why live like miserable rats packed in cities? You won't need the infrastructure to support you anymore. Hell, with sufficiently advanced transhuman technology, why even have a house?

The very first thing we should do after obtaining sufficiently advanced transhuman technology should be to burn down every single city. Tear up the sidewalks and the asphalt, break apart the dirty concrete, and let nature reclaim them. As they are now, they are a blight on the landscape.

Anonymous 02/18/15 (Wed) 08:48:34 90fb87 No.203

>>202

We can find a little more balance than that. I agree though that one of the great possibilities of improving the basic capabilities of the human body is increased ability to explore more diverse environments.

Plus if you can get a ride to a new planet with some of the basics you can have your survivalist lifestyle and not have to worry about the X billion other people. The promise of space is the promise of a new start as much as anything else.

Anonymous 02/19/15 (Thu) 03:02:45 1376e8 No.204

>>203

I don't really see any reason to keep cities around at all once we don't need them. They are ugly as hell, filthy, and hugely destructive to the environment.

Anonymous 02/19/15 (Thu) 07:54:22 15b975 No.207

>>44
>claiming to be one with nature
>not understanding it
>not realizing we are here to make it stronger
>not using it's glorious fruits for our technological hunger
you fucking savage