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 No.209

So are you third postion guys down with Aleksandr Dugin and the whole Eurasianist movement and National Bolshevism or something else entirely?

 No.210

Fuck no.

Death to Dugin!


 No.211

>>209

We welcome all rational discourse.


 No.218

How accurate is this?

 If you don't understand Russian, here are major points of Dugin's talk:

1. Three elements of the coming dictatorship:
(1) the United Russia party whose weak ideology shall be replaced by neo-Eurasianism, i.e. fascism;
(2) the Public Chamber (Общественная палата) that will, on "people's request", demand from the United Russia to introduce anti-democratic, anti-constitutional measures;
(3) a youth movement that will form a "commissar corps of illegitimate authority" to crackdown on all those who oppose the dictatorship.

2. "We had a liberal dictatorship, so the coming dictatorship will be illiberal. We had a Soviet dictatorship but it's now long gone. What will be next? Guess from three".

3. Neo-Eurasianists shall control two elements of the coming dictatorship: the ideology of the United Russia party and the youth movement.

4. As fascism is considered a bad thing in Russia, the neo-Eurasianist youth movement should avoid calling themselves "Hitlerjugend", and use names like "oprichnina", a name for the secret police under Tsar Ivan the Terrible.

Obviously, neo-Eurasianists are planning to get rid of Putin and establish a full-fledged totalitarian fascist state. As Andreas Umland argues, Putin’s current project for the Eurasian Union is authoritarian and restorationist, while Dugin's project is fascist and revolutionary. However, even if their goals are different, Dugin sees Putin as a temporary ally. Moreover, “the first step to Dugin’s new empire is the restoration of the old empire sought by Putin”. In this sense, Putin, even if not directly pursuing Dugin’s plan, does perform steps which may – in the long run – lead to the implementation of Dugin’s project.

The wikipedia page about him is obviously biased.

The reborn Russia, according to Dugin's concept, is said by Charles Clover of Financial Times to be a slightly remade version of the Soviet Union with echoes of Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, where Eurasia was one of three continent-sized super states including Eastasia and Oceania as the other two and was participating in endless war between them.[19]

He has criticized the "Euro-Atlantic" involvement in the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election as a scheme to create a "cordon sanitaire" around Russia, much like the French and British attempt post-World War I.

But if he seriously wants to take Europe beyond Southeast Ukraine for Russian Empire, a Soviet Union including all the satellite states, then he is just another crazy with a fantasy.




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