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 No.329

What should our position be on the Ukrainian crisis? I understand the folks at AZOV are fighting for a Nationalist Ukraine but won't they be used by the bourgeoisie?

 No.330

Solidarity with ukraine

Most likely yes they will be used, but anywhere that isn't socialist (pretty much everywhere) is.


 No.331

I'm not completely familiar with the conflict in Ukraine however there are a few things to note.

Putin invaded the Crimea because as far as he sees it, it's rightfully Russian land. He has an argument here because historically the Crimea has been part of Russia.

The Rebels appear to be nationalists, which I like, however there is also some evidence to suggest that these rebels are being funded by the United States to fight a proxy war against the Russians. So it's hard to say whether the rebels are apart of a genuine nationalist movement or are simply U.S. funded astroturf meant to advance U.S. interests.

Overall it's a complicated situation that probably can't be defined in terms of black and white. There seems to be a lot more going on then we're lead to believe.


 No.334

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>>331

The U.S. instigated, oversaw, and aided the recent coup in the ukraine, replacing the former government which was fairly neutral with russia with a somewhat moderate nationalist government that is hostile to russia, at the same time when this happened, russia annexed crimea with the popular support of the citizens there and as a message of sorts to the new government, at the same time using the momentum of the coup, in the donbass area of ukraine where there is a large group of separatists who want to be absorbed into russia and are fearful of the new nationalist government, so they organized paramilitary bodies and took donetsk/lugansk as well as some other villages in the donbass countryside, and it's pretty widely known that at this point, putin is sending both men and arms to aid the separatists though he continues to deny he has troops there

I really don't support either of them to be honest, it's a massive clusterfuck and just a chess game in the U.S./russian pissing match


 No.338

>>334

>I really don't support either of them to be honest, it's a massive clusterfuck and just a chess game in the U.S./russian pissing match

This is exactly how I feel on the matter.




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