/thirdpositionist/ - Third Positionist Politically Incorrect

>>672

I don't like them. I dislike them almost as much as I dislike socialists who unironically get angry when you criticize feminism or open borders. Not to mention, most Hitlerists are usually uneducated white trash who don't understand anything about economics.

They're OK by me as long as they don't cross that line into Hollywood style neonazism (think /pol type shitposting) and stay Jew wise (unlike these so-called European "nationalists"). Let's be honest, as this is a numbers game to an extent, we kinda need them.

>>677

To be fair, some Nazi's are indeed socialists, although that doesn't apply to Hitlerists.

>>675

This. The big problem on /pol/ isn't the Hilterists, it's the libertarian and the "national"-libertarian/capitalists.

Many Hitlerists think Hitler was Anti-capitalist because of Mein Kampf and his stances before 1934.

>>672

Fuck em. I care about my nation on a civic level. If someone is a citizen, they should get the same treatment under the law as anyone else despite their ethnic background.

With that said, I mainly frequent this board because I consider myself to be an actual national socialist. Meaning, I believe that my country comes before the needs of other countries' and that some form of socialism needs to replace the current economic model which relies on exploitation of the proletariat.

Hitler, was more or less just a nationalist who hated Jews. He didn't seem to care about actually liberating the working class.

>>808

>an actual national socialist.

>Meaning, I believe that my country comes

>country

The country is not the nation; otherwise, the word nation state becomes a redundancy.

>>810

I understand, the nation is made up of the people but it's made up of all citizens. Not just the citizens that one group deems to be superior.

With that said, if someone isn't a citizen (say an immigrant) they should be deported but people who are citizens should get the same treatment under the law as anyone else.

>>811

Nationhood and citizenship are two different sorts of membership. I recommend Ferdinand Tönnies' simple framework of Gesellschaft vs. Gemeinschaft as something 'every poster on /thirdpositionist/ should be familiar.

Every state is a cultural institution of the biological beings who erected it. A state never forms in absence of a constituency, then precedes to staff its territories with a population of its choosing. The nation yields the state, which then confers citizenship.

A state can certainly become or deracinated, "denationalized" or more more precisely, inattentive to and even hostile towards the nation which founded it. But no matter what rights, for example, the Constitution guarantees for people of all heritages, it was at the outset an English diaspora document.

>>672

I do have some respect for Hitler. But it's a shame that he didn't actually implement NS.

Hitlerists on the other hand are pretty retarded.