c8668b No.12660
Alright so our favorite fetish lunatic with a tickling fixation is trying to figure out what to do with his Patreon. Since I've seen that he does frequent this site randomly, I feel we need to do our best to offer some tough love and give the fucker some direction.
Honestly dude….you have the attention span of a garden slug…you need some focus…and only here on /tk/ can you get some totally unbiased and critical feedback. So, who has thoughts for our resident crazy person artist?
1bacc0 No.12661
Truth be told all I could really recommend is timely updates and he does a fairly consistent job of it. If it were up to me personally, I'd say one long just Cali & Friends would be my approach, start with it and offer up Patreon perks like maybe having a minor character added to them every so often, pay a lot and maybe there can be a brief arc where your OC interacts with the girls or something.
That said I have no clue how committed he is to which idea, I had heard of a new Patreon exclusive idea and there's always the risk of the infamously spergy and tightwadded ticklefag community kicking in like $5 and expecting a huge storyarc dedicated to their dumb character and I'm not sure if that's an inevitability he'd rather avoid. Maybe an evolving incentive program is the solution? Start with one flat monthly fee, the first month or so you get "your character", a few months in it's added to the comic, a few months after that it's fleshed out as a real part of the universe, months after that maybe it gets a dedicated plot or story? The problem would probably be keeping someone on the hook long enough to want to stick through the entire time, but I think the idea has some merits even if I can't really articulate it too well.
ed0df1 No.12663
>>12660
honestly, chesh's style has gotten a little stale for me. sometimes he puts out something really cool, but mostly his work just looks vectored and flat
I like the sketches he's been posting a lot more than any of his finished digital work
c8668b No.12664
>kicking in like $5 and expecting a huge storyarc
Funny…the vast majority of my patrons are at $1 pledges….but yeah I am totally open to unbiased and open feedback of what I need to do to garner the most positive response. UNLEASH YOUR HELL UPON ME /TK/!! XD
fae1d8 No.12686
Patreon is retarded and if you use it you should die
b94ded No.12690
>>12664
As a longtime fan of your work(you did a Cali piece that graced my website for years), my own advice is to find a sweet spot that works for both you and your patreon contributors. Asking for $1, even when you get 100 subscribers, isn't a lot of financial incentive for what is time consuming (I've done commission pics and comics…it's a lot of work).
You need to ask a reasonable amount that can be spread out among a community of donors for work that will reward their contributions. While many contributors are happy to support an artist, they need to feel that they are getting something for their money. This isn't charity.
Also, do not expect people to jump on board right away. Unless you're the rock star equivalent in your genre, people want to see if you can actually produce something before they get on board. With so many artists starting things like patreon and not delivering, that is just the reality. You'll have to be patient.
Finally, show some new content. Let people know that you are serious about this project and that you are doing work, regardless of contributions coming in. People who like your work will support you if you are serious about a project.
Hope this is helpful.
10abd0 No.12699
>>12686
This. Just new ways to make paywalls.
f86bd6 No.12701
Cheshire, I love your characters, but I think you should focus more on drawing the fetish art involving scenes with them than just new one time pictures of OCs and chars that only are ever mentioned once.
e0d060 No.12720
406e66 No.12722
>>12720
When an artist has been offering their material for free for years and then suddenly throws up what is basically a paywall, it feels like a slap in the face.
An artist has the right to whatever they want with their work and I can understand why some are probably doing it, but that doesn't mean people have to like it all the time.
fae1d8 No.12724
>>12720
People on the internet hate paying for stuff, especially porn.
I know that I'm not going to pay one red cent for porn unless it's so amazingly great and I know I'm going to get many good faps out of it, which has only happened a couple of times(and they were times when it wasn't available for free via the usual channels).
If you want to sell your product and get people to pay for it, that's fine, nothing bad about that.
Patreon garners scorn because you're not selling a product via it, you're basically getting people to pay your rent and expenses, so you can make material(when and if that happens). It's pretty much e-begging.
It's capitalizing on the mentality people developed when they saw the financial success of some Youtubers and Twitch streamers, and thought "Hey, I want to stay at home all day in my pajamas playing video games or making shitty videos of me playing videogames instead of getting my ass up out of a chair and getting a job or learning a useful skill", while missing the point that the people who make money off Youtube and Twitch do so via ad revenue, which is a business like any other, not whoring for donations from fools who are easily parted from their money.
7295bf No.12727
Hey Ches, I really hope you put together something amazing, and then make it patreon-exclusive, just to piss off some of the people in this thread.
1bacc0 No.12728
>>12724
Haha jesus christ kid…
I'm not sure if you specifically have ever done it but you know when people make those funny little remarks about how long it takes to make videos with Craiglist women it's generally because I have to work "a real job!" to get the money to pay those people. Where the fuck do you live where you think anyone seriously thinks they're going to be compensated being "Stay at home fetish people". The Tickle Room guy has had problems on TMF with people blowing smoke up his ass and then never buying a single thing and even came here to ackn owledge someone who thought one of his models was the absolute hottest thing, but wasn't going to spend the $10 just to have it instantly.
And maybe i'm not the right guy to be saying it, because my stuff I just put out for free, but jesus watching you sit here pull this "Oh yeah?! Let me explain the world to you, Mr E-Begger…" shit made me want to hold your mouth open and shit in it. There's "charge $16 for an 8 page book" and the understandable reaction to that, and then there's whatever the fuck you just did here, which makes you look retarded as shit.
I mean if you know a healthy stream of ad revenue from fetish porn people I'd love to hear it, one of you insightful little cocksuckers actually gave me a whole bunch of useful insight when I was looking for stuff to pop on the site with a "HRNG JUST USE GODADDY AND PUT VIDEOS ON THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU KEEP MAKING HASSLE FOR YOURSELF!" (in the process making it apparent he had not used GoDaddy or needed to put a lot of videos on a website before) and generally just whining to be whining.
Much like you! I don't know how the fuck you equated "playing and shrieking at YouTube" with comic art, but you just blurted that as though it was everyone else in the thread that was retarded for not being wise to it before. Like holy shit you really are one dopey motherfucker to have sat there and done that. "Hey geniuses, don't whore, get AD REVENUE!". Holy hell kid how's the 10th grade treating you?
b94ded No.12729
>>12724
>Patreon garners scorn because you're not selling a product via it, you're basically getting people to pay your rent and expenses, so you can make material(when and if that happens). It's pretty much e-begging.
Not to derail this thread, but that pov doesn't allow for the option that patreon is simply another way for an artist to continue doing work people want to see. Most artists are not supporting themselves with pateon. It supplements their income so that they can take time from their vanilla job to do something they love and something fans love to see.
7295bf No.12731
>>12724
>I know that I'm not going to pay one red cent for porn unless it's so amazingly great and I know I'm going to get many good faps out of it, which has only happened a couple of times(and they were times when it wasn't available for free via the usual channels).
So you wouldn't have paid if you could've gotten it for free?
b94ded No.12736
>>12731
This is nothing new. The internet is the clearing house of "the five finger discount". I think many people do it because it's literally right there. You don't even have to make an effort. Most of the time, the biggest barrier to whether a person pirates something or not is their own conscience, which can easily be massaged.
I've never personally felt that folks who pirate our content were stealing dollars from us. Most of them were never going to buy from us anyway. But on the flip side, I'm not going to just roll over and let them have it. It's like that numb nut running tickling-videos.com. He has a section for our vids. All the links are dead. We have his site bookmarked. We check it everyday and DMCA any new links the same day. He got shifty a while back and tried to create a third party mask so we couldn't see the actual url. Took all of two minutes to get around that bullshit. You want to pirate our stuff, we'll make you work for it. :)
e0d060 No.12737
Freeloading beta fuck goes to Internet to feel himself and explain the world, not understanding ad revenue, conflating dipshittery about what Patreon is because it pisses him off some Let's Player gets paid ten times his monthly wages as a shitty convenience store jockey.
"Get a real job! Oh, and put out professional grade work for free! Though it's probably not good enough, since you know, only a few porns are ever truly amazing for my two and a half inch beta cock."
Trying to please people like you is why there's no fucking independent sustainability in the art scene of this fetish.
7d3dba No.12740
>>12737
Hey, it's the patron saint of paying for tickle porn! Welcome back!
7295bf No.12744
>>12737
I agree. People expecting artists to always work for free is pretty much why this fetish is always going to be niche and insular.
Then again, it's probably just one guy saying all this.
10abd0 No.12747
>>implying most tickle fetish "artists" deserve to get paid for their work
>>implying they're not just taking advantage of desperate losers with more money than brains
>>muh samefag argument
fd7e6e No.12748
Threads like this make me glad some people still have some thoughts in at least one of their heads.
dc28db No.12758
Cheshire, perhaps it's time for you to definitely launch "Cali & friends" as a regular web-comic, then ask financial support for this project via Patreon.
You can ask people to give money for each comic page published then reward them for their long-term fidelity with a sketch commission or more.
For example : someone gives 5$ per page then gets a sketch commission after reaching 15$ of overall donation, or a colored commission if someone gives 10$ per page and reaches 30$ of overall donation.
Ex: https://www.patreon.com/Poppy?ty=h
Or you can take money for your global monthly activities and organise lotteries, fidelity rewards, votes and other events to thank your patrons (plus, they'll be able to see your comic pages in higher definition or during sketch phases).
Ex: https://www.patreon.com/InCaseArt?ty=h
Perhaps you can also make, from time to time, a collection of artworks/sketchworks like LostOneZero does. It would more or less 20 still-images with a little description/pieces of dialogue on the bottom (i think you've done that before).
Then, you sell them to regular customers for a reasonable price…while your long-term patrons can see them being sketched and recieve them for free as a reward for their fidelity.
These are just propositions from lots of possible options. But personally, i would gladly be your patron if you choose one (or two) of these business models. The choice is yours !
941d44 No.12764
>>12747
You only need one arrow.
ba0578 No.12766
if your work is good enough then you'll get sales, donations, ad revenue, etc.
the problem is that when you have such a niche market (tickle fetish), there aren't many buyers, so your shit had better be top notch pro quality if you want to earn any appreciable amount of dough from buyers, hits, etc. and even then, it's mostly like not a very lucrative market
what the patreon snowflakes don't realize is that 90% of them are actually shit content producers, and then these people start complaining about "muh piracy" and "muh freeloaders" and whatever other whinewords when their hobbies don't bring in as much money as a real job.
no, dumbass, you don't get to live entirely off earnings from your NICHE HOBBY. if you are actually good at what you do and there's an available market, then congrats, you made it. free money. if you're not real professional grade quality (this is more than just being the "best" in your art clique or whether you went to art school) and your market is tiny, then you have no room to complain about not making enough money
if you're like 99% of tickling content producers, you're not pro grade. so please stop throwing fits when you can't live like a parasite on your fans because you feel entitled to make shitty tickle art for a comfy living.
>b-but that's not fair!
grow the fuck up
>b-but art is my passion!
grow the fuck up
9609b5 No.12768
>>12766
>then congrats, you made it. free money.
Well with all due respect there is always effort required for services rendered; its not really "free money". You can assume for most artists this is all just what they do for fun anyway, but for plenty its a chore especially when they need to meet deadlines and paired with other real life problems.
7295bf No.12769
>>12766
There aren't any artists complaining. The only whiners are the ones who want artists to keep slaving away to serve them free fetish content on a silver platter. aka
>When an artist has been offering their material for free for years and then suddenly throws up what is basically a paywall, it feels like a slap in the face.
>An artist has the right to whatever they want with their work and I can understand why some are probably doing it, but that doesn't mean people have to like it all the time.
fae1d8 No.12771
>>12728
Moron. I never said porn producers should try and get ad revenue. If you think your work is worth paying for, by all means put it on clips4sale or open your own online store or something and sell it. Way to completely miss the point of my post and put words into my mouth.
>>12737
Wow, you read a 6 sentence post by me and you now seem to think you know everything about my job, life, and aspirations.
Honestly, it takes a special kind of autistic self righteous douchebag to posit himself as the moral arbiter of paying for tickle-porn. Like I said before, and like this >>12690 reasonable guy said, most people don't want to pay for porn and if they can get something for free they will do it without blinking. The big mainstream producers realized this years ago. If you consider this an issue of such moral significance, you should never watch videos on streaming sites like Pornhub and the like because 99% of the videos on there are stolen, and nobody is going to believe you if you lie and say you've never done that.
If your material is getting stolen and you don't like it, you have every right to send out DMCAs and pursue any action you can to stop it, but just know that it probably isn't going to help all that much and that even if you have a meltdown and stop making material, there are a thousand other people who will continue to produce.
fd7e6e No.12772
I take it back.
This makes the cringe thread look like amateur mic night at the Apolo.
This is fucking amazing.
e0d060 No.12773
There's some good in here, with a bunch of side nuggets of shit from the usual weebs and freeloader tard capitalists. Ironic that people with good shit to say, for the most part, create shit.
fae1d8 No.12775
>>12728
Holy fuck this has to be satire
If you are serious dude please kill yourself
1bacc0 No.12776
>>12775
Holy fuck there's no way you realize I'm a mod and still seriously thought you were going to be able to pull this.
b94ded No.12777
>>12758
That's a good idea.
e0d060 No.12778
>>12776
What a goddamn retard.
fae1d8 No.12779
>>12776
Pull what? I only skimmed your overly pedantic post before, but after going back and reading it in detail the full force of your fagginess hit me so I made a post about it.
If I was samefagging as in pretending to be two different people agreeing with an opinion, then you'd look like the badass you're trying to be for calling me out.
1bacc0 No.12780
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>>12779
Ya sure about that? maybe it's not just 2 of you on one computer who totally thought that post was "lolsofaggy"? You sure read the fuck out of the others, so that doesn't seem likely.
>I.. I didn't say YOU get ads I just said that's what THEY do!!!
I didn't have to put anything in your mouth beside my fat delicious cock, nothing you said had any merit. "YouTube streamers" don't but you know what Patreon IS really popular with? Comic artists. You dense motherfucker. The and musicians are by far the sites biggest benefactors.
What kind of material does Chesire make? Work it out, fuckface. Now add in they can't just "do like all them fancy YouTube people do!" because their output is made and distributed different, and there you go. A reason people seek and exploit other venues. You unbelievable fucking idiot. "You basically just want welfare!"
Now go make 2 or 3 nonconsecutive responses to this.
47278b No.12785
>>12744
Very few tickling artists actually work for free. Most either seem to do some combination of something they felt like doing and commissions and the rest do commission work full time.
>>12769
I like how you single out my post when at most I was explaining why some people do not care for this Patreon trend, myself included admittedly.
To be honest I wasn't really whining and ultimately don't care. I know of two other artists besides Cheshire who have hopped on the Patreon train and I do not really give enough of a damn about their work to pay money for it. At the moment there is only one artist like that for me and they don't use Patreon.
Something that bears keeping in mind is gauging how many of your fans like your work enough to actually pay for it and how many are simply content to favorite and watch you on DA.
cfb59a No.12788
>>12736
Ehhh, not really "working for it". I jumped on to IRC and found half your library easily enough a moment ago. At some point, piracy will jump the shark, taunting them only makes it happen faster.
1f5b3c No.12794
b94ded No.12801
>>12788
We can't be everywhere and aren't going to try. But for those that openly pirate, we will make you work for it. And again…were you ever really going to pay for it?
cfb59a No.12812
>>12758
This actually seems like a pretty reasonable solution. Everyone wins and the people who complain about Pateron basically don't need to anymore.
>>12801
I mean, I get it, but I've just admitted to openly pirating and not working for it. And no, I was never going to pay for it, to be completely honest I never even wanted them. To be perfectly frank, your videos aren't that good, I looked them up via the IRC channels just to see how rare they actually are and the answer is "not very".
b94ded No.12815
>>12812
>I mean, I get it, but I've just admitted to openly pirating and not working for it. And no, I was never going to pay for it, to be completely honest I never even wanted them. To be perfectly frank, your videos aren't that good, I looked them up via the IRC channels just to see how rare they actually are and the answer is "not very".
That's not open. That turdler running tickling-videos is open. Pornhub is open. IRC and private email exchanges are the back alley trading posts used by people who pay little to nothing for porn and never will. You're an anonymous name on 8chan. We don't generally chase the "brave" anons of the internet. Now and again one gets in our cross hairs and we find out who they are and deal with them. But, in general, we don't really care about people like you, because you would never pay for our stuff anyway. As long as you are using the back alleys, we are not really interested. It's when pirates get all ballsy and do it right in front of us that we take exception. You personally don't like the content. Fine. But there are plenty who do and feel that it's not good enough to pay for, but its still good enough steal. Go figure.
b94ded No.12816
Cheshire…sorry this thread has meandered a bit. I certainly hope you do something with your patreon account. I would pay for a Cali comic or ongoing strip.
fae1d8 No.12831
>>12780
Wow, using your mod powers to bully people you personally don't like and using excessive profanity/namecalling as if this somehow makes your argument seem more coherent, you really are a class act Jim.
Go make some more shitty videos with your ugly fatties.
>>12815
>We don't generally chase the "brave" anons of the internet. Now and again one gets in our cross hairs and we find out who they are and deal with them. But, in general, we don't really care about people like you, because you would never pay for our stuff anyway. As long as you are using the back alleys, we are not really interested. It's when pirates get all ballsy and do it right in front of us that we take exception.
Yeah, as someone who has some experience in this field, you're not scaring anybody but complete idiots. Lawsuits over porn piracy don't even get looked at by the courts. The most that ever happens is the producer will have some dirty lawyer write up a letter to the pirate, threatening them to either pay the producer compensation or face legal action(which almost surely they'll never actually go through with), and the pirate will pay them out of fear of having legal documents in the public domain(as per U.S. law at least) stating that they were accused of downloading "Creampie Sluts 5" or some such filth.
Desperate studios do this en masse as it's an extra source of income for them, and even in that case it's usually only fairly large and mainstream studios, a niche fetish producer doing it is absolutely unheard of.
If you actually pulled this on some poor sap and it worked, I pity him.
1bacc0 No.12832
>>12831
>bully people
Wait, you were all hard a second there, "Goddamn right it was me I never acted like I wasn't I just thought it was so stupid I posted twice what about it!", now you're getting picked on? It does make my argument more coherent, as you can see nearly every other poster is calling you retarded and you have 0 support.
I mean it's not my fault you realized that and figured "Well they're not going to know it's me…" not realizing I was going to be able to see it.getting dunked on left and right.
1bacc0 No.12833
>>12831
Oh god, upon further inspection I realize why you're so pissed off; that shitty site building advice I was laughing before at was yours.
Although I guess with your ill informed expertise on literally everything else in the thread so far I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise.
fae1d8 No.12834
>>12833
>>12832
Wow, you sure showed me, defeating the purpose of an anonymous imageboard. Like I said, class act.
And if you weren't brilliant enough to figure it out, I make my income all via web-based businesses, thus my knowledge of things pertaining to web-based businesses and legal issues, IE what I've commented on in this thread and in the post you just posted a screenshot of thinking you were trolling me or something. I'm curious as to why I would be pissed off because I gave you advice and you didn't listen to it and replied in that hyper-paranoid way that seems to characterize you?
If I was claiming to be knowledgeable about a variety of unrelated topics then maybe you calling me out for being an internet know it all would be a good point.
1bacc0 No.12839
>>12834
I know, how embarrassing was it you were leaning heavily on pretending to be multiple people. I'd be pissed too.
That said I'm baffled as to how you make a living at this; your web building suggestions were like the number 1 "Do Not Do" I asked half a dozen people before before continuing, you were shrieking about Patreon not realizing what the guy set it up for is like THE reason the website exists (that you were just articulating an opinion about is is irrelevant, it was a stupid opinion that showed an ignorance of a scene you were trying to give advice about) and now it's just gold watching you argue about how pro you are at piracy and avoiding consequences, something I'm sure you'll humiliating yourself doing making for a nice quality three-peat before we're done.
"Hyper paranoid" about what? The first thread I just said "No, that won't work", the first time here, I merely called you retarded, and before I went and 'bullied' you I thought to myself "Wouldn't it be some shit if he just samefAH OF COURSE HE DID…".
There's no paranoia and I'm not mad, look closely at the thread. You have at least 2 other people making fun of you for the same posts. One of two things explains that; we're all hurt and paranoid over you and your renegade ideas, or you're just dumb and saying silly shit. Don't pretend now like you're just casually enraging people, you've had like 3 solid outbursts now.
0a69b6 No.12841
>>12834
>>12839
Shit is getting,too real up in here over Patreon
dc28db No.12842
I wonder : is it possible to split the thread in two ?
I think it would be a good thing to move the whole debate/dispute about crowd-funding and website-hosting in its own dedicated thread and leave the posts about ACTUALLY helping Cheshire where it already is. It would make things clearer and cleaner.
Just a sincere and humble suggestion.
10abd0 No.12843
>>12785
This is the thing. We've had piracy before. Well, not here, but the old /d/ threads on 4chan were mostly that at a point. I, at least, have a bunch of pirated art and comics from those threads, not to mention all the vids circulating online that anyone has easy access to.
…and it's shit.
Not even worth a pity fap. I only keep them to distribute them whenever they're requested. I learned quick not to waste money on tickle stuff purely because the amateurs and the people who do it for free do a much better job about 100% of the time.
>>12764
>>You only need one arrow.
I find two to be more aesthetically pleasing, but since you're a nice guy I'll consider only using one from now o…
>>12776
>>12833
>>12839
What the fuck are you doing, James? Seriously? It's plain to see /tk/ is a shitdump among fullchan's imageboards, and now it's dawning on me why. Have you no respect? You used to be cool, what the fuck happened to you? It's almost like you'd never been in an imageboard before. Fucking sad.
More than one person can disagree with your views.
No wonder this place is so terrible when even our mods haven't a drop of the anonymous spirit. All this place has become is an advertisement.
On the topic, many artists have found ways to monetize their art through Patreon and still keep just about everything they produce free of charge. What we see here is, as stated before, merely tickle "artists" leeching off of their fans.
1bacc0 No.12849
>>12843
>More than one person can disagree with your views.
I'll bet!
… except they didn't, here, is the thing. And it was funny watching a guy who would then devolve into "What, can't make a good point about my argument huh?!" immediately just pretend he was a third party.
I've been on imageboards for a long time, and do you know what's a time tested and beloved tradition on them? Retard baiting. What exactly is your problem? "Hey what whoa hold on you're not supposed to know he was samefagging what the fuck?!"? That's the beef? I was just supposed to keep it kayfabe?
Let's talk more about it here! I'll even drop the username, keep it nice and respectful! Though keep in mind I'm still going to be able to see IPs…
>>12848
0a69b6 No.12856
Ok, you know what.. Gonna say this.
People would not mind paying people over Patreon..If they trust them
The big issue with this community is trust.
It always has been,always will be.
And It is a very "us vs them" thing.
By people who create vs those who consume.
However, I am speaking as someone who pays and It goes like this.
People are not gonna throw money into a wild card.
b94ded No.12857
>>12856
>>12856
True to a degree. Certainly, some artists have burned people who have commissioned them. Cheshire may have a solid reputation, but not everyone may know. This is why I said that he can't expect people to come running to him, right away (they may..but don't be surprised if they don't). As Worf says: Trust is earned. Not given away. If he proves that he will deliver, then people on the fence will join up.
10abd0 No.12863
>>12856
Very good points. This community used to be much more united, or at least sections of it were. But now even the islands seem to have broken into peices. Have you ever noticed how many of our best artists just up and left at a certain point?
fd7e6e No.12869
In a more neutral aspect of the whole thing…
Supporting porn is just a waste of money.
It's kinda disgusting to think people will argue about anything when money is involved.
ed0df1 No.12871
>>12869
from a neutral aspect, everything that doesn't solely exist to keep you alive is a waste of money.
0a69b6 No.12888
>>12869
If people want to support wanking fuel and are not going broke doing so,let them.
Because, honestly It is supply and demand. Their is not enough furry/upper body/goth girl,whatever It be tickling stuff, and If the market is there. GO FOR IT
fae1d8 No.12898
>>12839
James, I'm just gonna let you have this victory because you're clearly one of those faggots who always has to have the last word in an argument.
You seem to think that you're making me extremely upset by "exposing" my alleged samefagging, when in the instance you exposed I was just insulting you, something you liberally did to me in your post. It would be embarrassing if I was pretending to be 2 different people to agree with an opinion or something, but I wasn't doing that, so it isn't.
And yeah, like the other guy said, you clearly are ill-suited for the job of a mod because you have no respect for imageboard culture.
I get the feeling that you're being somewhat tongue in cheek, and I sincerely hope you are, because if you've really gotten this big of an ego from being a tripfag/mod on a fetish imageboard that like 5 people visit and making a shitty Squarespace site for your shitty videos, that is really fucking disturbing.
P.S. I have to give credit where it's due, I did laugh out loud in your first reply to me when you said you wanted to "hold my mouth open and shit into it".
b94ded No.12899
>>12898
>James, I'm just gonna let you have this victory because you're clearly one of those faggots who always has to have the last word in an argument.
If that's so, then why are you posting "the last word"?
1bacc0 No.12900
>>12899
The same reason he needed to add "shitty SquareSpace for your shitty videos!", he's pissed off. He realizes everyone knows he's pissed off, but he can't just NOT keep going, or else it looks like I'll have won.
fd7e6e No.12907
>>12900
You're both assholes. I win
fd7e6e No.12908
Also Cheshire should be embarrassed to do this when he has a kid. I can't imagine how suicidal his kid will be when all their classmates find out that they been masturbating to this their dad's junk.
b94ded No.12910
>>12908
All class man…all class.
9ccc32 No.12915
>>12833
>he mad because he was talking to me in that other thread
Except that he was in this thread before you ever even showed up and made no mention of you before you posted a reply calling him out.
Maybe if you didn't make yourself known in every single thread on this goddamn board to make it about you….
You're trying way too hard, man. Tone it down a notch.
1bacc0 No.12917
>>12915
Take it to the bitch box, champ;
>>12848
Am noticing that nobody really had a real comeback to the "No, really, just go back to 4chan and try it again" comment. Though as it was explained to me you're all confident everything that infuriates you is my doing as well.
Well, nevermind that. Try it again! Maybe this time you can keep them from dying after a week and a half. Boy that would teach me a lesson!
ed0df1 No.12918
>>12908
one of these things is not like the others
430d4e No.12930
>>12918
Yeah, that is super fucking weird to have a picture of your kid mixed in with a sea of weird fetish art.
dc28db No.12932
>>12918
>>12930
Well, to be fair, Cheshire is someone who communicates a lot about his life, his struggle and his current situation. He regurlarly writes journal entries about his jobs, his familly and all that.
And among his active fanbase and regular commentators, there is quite a lot of people who actually care about his well-being and daily life. So it's kind of logical he would post some familly pictures and photos of his trips.
With that said, i agree with you guys : i think it would be best for him in the long term if he puts these kind of pictures on Instagram or something and then let his friends of fetish comment in there if they want to, instead of putting everything in the same place.
By the way, weren't we supposed to help the guy to have a good patreon or something ?
fd7e6e No.12975
>>12932
Pfft fuck that. Fund me. In return you'll know I won't be hungry.
e88b38 No.13026
>>12975
How am I suppose to jack off to that?
df7064 No.13027
For those who actually did give constructive feedback, I thank you and yeah, I think I am going to use this to start up the C&F webcomic. It's about damn time I actually told this story after over a decade of ideas…
Thanks for the assist.
b94ded No.13028
>>13027
Look forward to it.
9609b5 No.13031
THANK. FUCKING. GOD!! Just please follow through. You've been giving us enough teasers and crap for years. DO IT DAMMIT!
99102a No.13502
>>13027
Oh please do that would be phennomenal
Be safe in your work Kitty
0779c2 No.14287
4b9ad5 No.14337
Exactly what are these underground IRC channels? And before someone throws a hissy fit about pirating I'm asking because I've been hunting down a clip I purchased years and years ago but lost to a dead hard drive, and the studio that made it is no longer around. It would be cool to see if someone in an IRC was willing to trade for it.