/trap/ - Traps

>>4921

I feel the same. Like yeah, you look great and all, but damn is something missing.

Problem is that I'm a female, and a trap whose into women is pretty rare.

>>4913

>How many of you pretend to be 100% straight?

I consider myself to be straight. Dating women is difficult and painful. I tried it for a bit but it always ended tragically. I like men. Rational, honest, kind. I find the female form attractive.. just not enough to date one. Traps are perfection ^^

>>4915

In the same boat.

>>4913

I chalk it up to just liking the female form, if you're cute and girly a cock is just a bonus.

But in public I identify as a purely straight guy, as much as I'd like to date a trap it'd be cruel to hide her away from my friends like that.

So I opt out of traps in real life, and focus on females. But do occasionally fap to traps when I'm alone.

>people actually think traps are straight

Is there a vagina

No = gay

Yes = straight

Like you turbo niggers need to come out of the closet already after all trap cocks are hot especially super big ones

>>8404

God I hate seeing that picture.

>>8427

Me too, I'll delete it. Sorry qt <3

I think the whole gay/not gay argument is stupid tbh. If you want to call yourself straight while dating/fucking transwomen then so be it.

Personally in my experience in men I've dated, and I realize this is anecdotal, but they were only into transwomen and natal women. Hardly what I would call gay. But whatever, be what you are into a fuck everyone else.

It's the epitome of insecurity.

>>8430

>That picture

Even though I really like traps, I'd rather have my own Ankh to hang around with.

>>8430

>If I only fuck trans/traps I'll never have kids and my genetic line will end with me.

>>>/cuckquean/

>>8447

Two fetishes in one. Too good.

I agree with /pol/ here and there, but their moralist attitude is a real buzzkill.

But then again, I am a degenerate.

>>8469

>Also, lets be honest here, finding a relatively local, convincing, trap? Next to fucking impossible, at least around here.

but why would i WANT to fuck you? you sound so incredibly unappealing. i'm down to fuck guys who are in relationships, as long as their partner is cool with it, but you strike me as the type of person who i would not ever want to sleep with.

>>8503

He raises a very good point here >>8508

You may not find his online persona attractive, but he is at least being honest, and that has to count for something in this space, as such a high-number of trans-attracted men aren't.

You can ignore the dopey embedded Meat Loaf video, but if you know the song, it deals with the tension between men wanting to get laid and move on vs women wanting something more solid.

I'm always defending men in this man-hating society, but I won't dispute the very large number of guys who lie like motherfuckers just to get their dicks wet, and then head for the door as quickly as possible. No doubt it's hurtful as hell.

I've done it as well, but only when the sex was terrible.

>>8508

>>8516

the thing that comes off as most problematic is that you seem to view us as 'lesser' than ""normal'" girls. honesty is great and all, but i'd rather have someone lie to me so i can at least enjoy it and pretend im worth something for a bit. not with you.

>>8508

>>8516

Who cares that you're honest about the fact that you're a racist moron that wants a trans/crossdressing fucktoy. This is what's unappealing, you want a fucktoy, not a human being as a partner.

>>8527

that's good. :3

also the family thing isn't actually far off from being a reality, genetic science has come a pretty long way. there's a good chance i might be able to actually give birth in my lifetime, which is cool as hell.

i could honestly do without having kids at all, but something about knowing that i can't makes me sad in a really weird and profound way.

>>8535

>can't handle anything outside the hugbox.

i mean… why would i want to hang out with someone who's not going to respect my feelings? :(

>>8535

Uhh in >>8469

>concerns are the preservation of whites as a race, and the preservation of Western civilization.

This kinda says that you think white/western people are better and the evil whatevers are invading and taking all your women.

Honesty is one thing, but being a decent human is another. I browse TIA to laugh at the ridiculous shit those people say and you're sitting right next to them on the other side of the horseshoe. Enjoy being desperate, granpa.

>>8572

>MASSIVE demographic decline, and I happen to like having eye and hair color variety in the population.

Why does that even matter? You won't be alive to see it, it won't affect you. Even if you were alive to see it it's not like you'd suddenly turn brown.

>>8584

okay, you bring up several points that i feel like taking about.

1) they INTENTIONALLY find uglier/earlier into transition trans women for porn, because that's what the audience demands. i've spoken directly to two of the biggest porn execs in the field and they've both said they intentionally go for people who haven't had ANY work done, no hormones, nothing, then sew on some boobs, get a wig, and start filming.

2) think about the mindset of the average pornstar. of course there's the excellent exceptions, but i'd say like 90%+ are doing it solely for the money, and not because of how much they enjoy it. now think about that coming from a trans person. someone who should by all measures, completely fucking hate their own body, but are willing to show it off on screen like that? the vast majority of people in trans porn are desperate and probably miserable.

i think the amount of trans porn you watch will probably skew your views of actual trans women. not to mention, aside from disgusting transbians, very few of us have any desire to use or keep our dicks. sure i'll have some problems physically, but the majority of them arent outside of cis women ranges. wide shoulders, narrow hips, but other than that i'll pass just fine.

>and they've both said they intentionally go for people who haven't had ANY work done, no hormones, nothing

That's what's hot. No plastic, no chemicals, natural!

>>8586

i've only had hormones. i see it like taking vitamins.

>>8587

Except that vitamins don't destroy your libido, make you infertile, give you weird-looking breasts and make you lifeless down there.

>>8589

fine, compare it to chemo if you have to. sure it has some negative side effects (tho that last one is a god send), but it fixes a major problem.

like, i'll take all of those things, over the only other option i can think of, and that's taking my own life lol

also my boobs arent weird looking. >:(

>>8592

the difference is that those are aimed at different audiences. the style of filming, the types of things they do, etc. i said there was exceptions, and the ones you named are pretty much all of them that i can think of. ones that got popular at least. it's very different now than it was even as little at like 5-10 years ago, and those girls are drawing in a much bigger/different audience than the more average trans girls.

i've thought about doing at least camming once im happier with where my body is at, if my boyfriend approves.

>Very few males have the genetics for looking completely passable as a female without hormones, and even if they do, it often fades as adulthood progresses.

if i had had the wherewithal to have at least an orchi when i was like 12-13, i absolutely would have, and my body would never have masculine at all, even compared to the very little that it did do.

i honestly think of it all as just a horrible birth defect. if someone was born with like an extra thumb, or missing a leg, you wouldn't bat an eye if they want to get it removed/get a prosthetic. my thing just happens to affect me in awful ways.

>(tho that last one is a god send)

Now I'm just wondering what you're even doing on this board. Dysphoria to the point of relief over your own genital dysfunctionality and you frequent /trap/? That's mindboggling.

>>8596

it's about being able to relate… or something. for the same reason a guy might wanna see another guy, just for being able to imagine yourself as that person easier or whatever. having a matching-ish body helps. plus i like posting. :3

i wouldnt be able to handle it if i wasnt taking steps to fix it already though.

>>8596

oh also, to clarify, it does 'function' in that im able to achieve orgasm without much issue, it just doesnt get hard randomly and is a lot smaller.

>>8601

Maybe we can come up with a solution to genital dysphoria, and all transwomen can keep their dicks. As nature intended.

>>8597

Cool, cool, I get that. Sorry if I seemed like a douchebag :P

>>8602

if we get to the point where we can have effective neurosurgery that's able to be that precise in targetting the trans-feels, and could somehow just make my dysphoria go away, i'd assume we'd also be at the point of just uploading ourselves to computers anyways, and i'd just do that.

>>8605

i mean okay but… the things you name are directly important to human survival, whereas being white isn't… really that important? i love being pale but whatever.

>>8608

i know, you've sounded pretty fine for the most part. just gotta make sure you remember that we're still people, and can't really be analyzed like a math problem.

>>8609

I was thinking more along the lines of hypnosis, CBT, or ACT. I will start a new thread on this after I do some digging.

>>8611

have tried the first two, third isn't quite possible for me ;P

it's really just not that easy.

>>8612

>it's really just not that easy.

I'm not claiming it is. I've done a lot of self-help therapies over the years, most don't do what they claim for a given individual. However, CBT has a good track record with body dysmorphic disorder. It doesn't have a good track record with body integrative identity disorder, which is a very rare and extreme condition where people want to amputate limbs. Wanting SRS as part of Gender Dysphoria is not identical to either condition, but it has a lot of similarities.

To clarify, BIID is really fucking severe.

>BIID patients usually report thinking about their perceived appearance flaws for an average of 3 - 8 hours a day and about one quarter report for more than 8 hours a day (Phillips et al., 2010). In BIID different motivations for wanting an amputation have been described and they usually report more than one reason, although restoring identity is much more likely to be reported as primary (First, 2005). This pathology is usually strongly associated with high levels of social anxiety and some obsessive compulsive behaviors (i.e. mirror checking) have been described. Very poor functioning and high levels or rates of depression, anxiety, social anxiety, anger/hostility, suicidality and other proxy measures of distress are usually described (Phillips et al., 2010).

For transgenders who are this obsessed about their penis, where you are thinking of how uncomfortable it makes you 3-8+ hours a day, then CBT probably won't do jack. However, most transgenders who want SRS don't seem anywhere this extreme.

Did you do these therapies for gender identity in general or for issues with your penis in particular?

>>8613

Source for above quote:

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownload.aspx?paperID=43284

>>8613

eh, i have a lot more going on than just the trans stuff. most professionals i've seen just dont even wanna bother. for the most part it's ignorable, i just position it so i can move around freely without it bothering me, but honestly it's almost the same feeling as having your leg asleep, except without the tingle and lack of sensation. … that's… actually kinda hard to describe. like waking up one day, and noticing a giant growth on your arm, you just don't expect it to be there, it's outside of your brain-map of your body, and it's just disturbing and annoying.

>>8615

>eh, i have a lot more going on than just the trans stuff. most professionals i've seen just dont even wanna bother.

That is really key. Stuff like hypnosis recordings and NLP really does work if you have only minor issues. If your problems run deep, then they usually only work for a few days or weeks if at all.

>>8626

any more pics of girl in second picture, bro.

name? sauce?

>>8691

I wish man. I heard from guy that she makes youtube tranny fashion vids. Tried to find her with no luck. But i only did a light search. GL

>>8691

Thats my only pic of her btw.

>>8691

Crisilla Deville.

1. The sex is better

2. I find traps to be sweet and unique, that's part of the allure

Still like genetic girls but traps have a special place for me.

I hate obnoxious fag culture which is largely ran by kikes. Only issue is I have kids and want to have some more. Having a trap gf would be a confusing thing for them and hard to explain as it currently stands.

>>8626

Men have always had to have game but it sure as hell is more difficult for males these days, you have to be on tip top form, most males of our era weill either die virgins or end up in a mundane and miserable marriage.

Most of our grandfathers and fathers would even have trouble just getting laid today, whereas it'd be a piec eof cake for them back in their era.

I don't think that the increased "difficulty" and lack of understanding of female psychology is a good enough reason to bail on genetic women, it's a cop out used by MGTOW retards and males who genuinely repell women to delude themselves that they're of worth and not insecure.

Having said that, transwomen in themselves are unique, but I've also met many of them who've jumped on board with the obnoxious victim and gay rights bandwagon which doesn;t do them any favours and has infact held them back.

>>8537

>This kinda says that you think white/western people are better

We are.

Sauce on OP webm plox

>>8865

>Having a trap gf would be a confusing thing for them and hard to explain as it currently stands.

In my experience kids understand the nuances the easiest. It's adults that have difficulties understanding.