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3de3f6 No.6245

It may be a weird question to ask here, but I wonder, do many gay dudes like traps? Is there big enough part of gays that are attracted to traps and femboys and is there a specific thing about it in their community?
Like to think about it, what would be better for a trap, to date some weird no-homo dude for whom it's just a fetish and you are just some freaky not-totally-girl with a dick, or to date some handsome muscular guy for whom you would be a girly bottom twink or something and who would take it seriously.
It's just I've seen threads where traps try to found out where to find guys who would be into it and wouldn't it be easier to do with gays and the whole LGBT thing, or is it actually not such a great idea? I'm not talking about some hardcore trans, but just for regular traps, femboys and crossdressers.

9d6e6d No.6248

>implying liking traps doesn't make you gay
heh.

d739cb No.6249

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>It may be a weird question to ask here, but I wonder, do many gay dudes like traps?

Purely gay guys? Almost never. I think it's as rare as straight guys wanting to fuck Buck Angel, and for the same reason.

3de3f6 No.6250

>>6248
Well, I mean like openly gay dudes, that go to gay bars and do gay stuff.
>>6249
Not 100% homo of course, but gayness could vary, some top dudes like to fuck shaved bottom twinks, it's not that far from fucking a trap I think. Like hetero guys are attracted to tomboys, I guess some top gay guys should be attracted to girly crosdressing dudes.

37ce37 No.6253

>>6249
good analogy

7d7923 No.6283

>>6245

From what I know most actually gay men who don't like sissified little boys look down on us who prefer traps. Once I got into a situation where it was loudly told that not only traps but also those who encourage them are a disgrace to the gay community into which should only be counted and allowed in real masculine men.

It seems that people are parochial as fuck no matter what their sexual identity may be.

d739cb No.6286

>>6283

That is par for the course for gays, or any other similar group, I suppose. To gain mainstream acceptance, LGBT organizations repudiated any type of involvement with groups like NAMBLA. This happened in the late 70s/early 80s.

Whatever you think of genuine pedophiles, or people who want to have sex with kids before puberty and I'm pretty grossed out by them NAMBLA was one of the few groups attempting to stop the situation we have today, where a guy can go to jail for years and be branded a sex offender for life for having sex with a willing 17 year old girl. Or if I lucked out before reaching the age of adulthood and had sex with a hot older women, which is the dream of most normal adolescent males, she could go to jail as well.

IOW, gays who should have known that sex doesn't fit into some neatly packaged box but is rich and complex quickly sold out any group that they thought would get in the way of their own sexual acceptance.

>Fucking 20 guys in a Turkish bathhouse every weekend? Totally cool.

>Consensual sex between an adult and a 15 year old? Absolutely disgusting! Rape!!

6d75a8 No.6405

>>6245

If you like traps, you're not straight. Simple as that.


4d9cef No.6416

>>6405

Liking the Female Form =/= gay


d739cb No.6420

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>>6405

I'd say that blowing this beautiful girl would completely confirm my 100% heterosexuality.


6d75a8 No.6422

>>6416

>>6420

It's gay you delusional fucks.


d739cb No.6426

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>>6422

One last time, just to help you out.

This is a woman. She has a feminine body, feminine face, and feminine mindset. She also has a feminine penis and feminine balls that produce feminine semen.

You would have learned all of this in Sex Ed if you had been paying attention.


9c7f46 No.6429

>>6426

>>6420

If you want a penis in your mouth, you're gay or bi. Nothing wrong with that.


d739cb No.6430

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>>6429

Your definition of "bi" doesn't really apply here.

Individuals into women and traps are gynephiles.

Individuals into men and transmen are androphiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androphilia_and_gynephilia


9c7f46 No.6432

>>6430

Sexuality has to do with sexual organs. Not what they look like. If you want a penis in your mouth you are gay or bi because the penis is male. There's no such thing as a feminine penis, unless you tie a bow to one.


d739cb No.6433

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>>6432

>Sexuality has to do with sexual organs.

Actually, it does not, and that is one of the most interesting aspects of people who find themselves attracted to transwomen, or transmen for that matter. The primary sexual characteristics of genitalia seem strangely irrelevant, and secondary sexual characteristics seem really important.

Anyway, my experience has led me to the conclusion that fundamentalists on this topic are either

1. /pol/tards who hate all traps, gays, and "degenerates."

or

2. genuinely gay/bi men who want everyone to be part of their club.

You appear to be the latter. Neither side can really be argued with. /pol/tards will probably outgrow it on their own, and bisexual guys have their own group interest in this.


9c7f46 No.6447

>>6433

No, actually. I'm transgender. Homosexuality is when you're attracted to the same sex. Sex =/= gender. If you like penis in your mouth you are gay. Because you are attracted to the male sexual organ. You're obviously in denial about your own sexuality.


d739cb No.6450

>>6447

It sounds like you have issues with your penis, if you still have it.

>Sex =/= gender

Exactly!


9c7f46 No.6454

>>6450

>>6450

I'm just being realistic. You're pretty think skulled aren't you?

If you're attracted to a transgender woman, you're straight.

If you're attracted to her sexual organs you're gay,

Sexuality = What sexual organs you're attracted to


9c7f46 No.6455

Sexuality is what sex you're attracted to.


d739cb No.6456

>>6454

I basically answered any comments of yours when I posted this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androphilia_and_gynephilia

>Sexuality = What sexual organs you're attracted to

Asserting something does not make it true.


9c7f46 No.6465

>>6456

Sexual orientation = What sex you're attracted to.

Denying something doesn't make it false


d739cb No.6471

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>>6465

>Sexual orientation = What sex you're attracted to.

The sex is not important, but the gender is.

It's relevant to note that human beings can not change their sex, only their gender. The most advanced animal that can change their sex are a few species of fish. Strictly speaking, transsexuals can only do cosmetic changes through surgery. Their physical sex is already dialed in at conception.

If you put sex at the core of the issue, then any man who was attracted to you would have to be gay or bi. I'm not saying that's true, but it would follow from your logic.


2c5720 No.6481

>>6471

>Gender

>important

Sex is the definitive.

You're either a Man.

or a Woman


7dce20 No.10076

>>6481

traps are girls


9fedf5 No.10110

I have always liked traps and I have always considered myself gay because I can't see myself dating or even having sex with a biological woman, it just isn't happening. I am much happier dating androgynous guys who can dress up for me than I am dating a woman no matter how close to androgynous she may look. Transwomen are obviously welcome, but since many of them seem to dislike the idea of being with a chaser or someone who isn't straight/bi, it isn't happening, and I'm fine with that. Plus, many of them don't like their bodies and want to transition, and for me, that's a dealbreaker.

This puts me in a very rare niche; hardly any gay men are into crossdressers, let alone traps, and most guys into traps consider themselves straight or bi, and I don't at all. Still, I'm in a long-term relationship and things seem to be going well, so all things considered, it hasn't been a huge hinderance to me. I don't really care what other guys consider themselves or what they consider me, or whether or not I'm on my own in this, I'm just gay and into traps. Go figure.


44324d No.10111

>>10110

This made my day. I really like your perspective. It's so calm and accepting.

Being transgendered is complicated and weird and there's no two transgendered people that are fully alike in their opinion of their body or attraction. Hell I'm not even alike week to week. I've had guys tell me they were gay but into me and been totally down. I've had awesome sexual relationships with guys that have done tons of gay porn. I've also been with completely straight men who have sex with me exclusively while I wear panties and loved that just as much.

Chaser, Gay, bi, straight - doesn't really matter.

What does matter is the person, and their approach. I'm a bottom, I've never had any desire to top ever, and that's never changing. All that matters is that the guy understand and respect that, and be classy and attractive in his general approach to me. I would gladly date a full on gay guy as long as he knew I would never top him and was just had his shit together.


9fedf5 No.10126

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>>10111

I'm glad you liked it. When I was younger I had moments where I was bitter about it and I was annoyed that more guys who identified as gay didn't really get it, but at a certain point it clicked that my sexuality doesn't really need to be validated. Being in a relationship admittedly helps–it's hard to be upset by people calling you this or that when at the end of the day you're still going to bed with a trap–but I've calmed down with time anyways. It's such a waste of time to get upset over it one way or the other, and it seems like it would be tiring and pointless to get into it with someone regardless of whether I think their self-labeling is 'legitimate.'

As for transwomen, my partner isn't cis but hasn't indicated that he's fully trans, either, which is perfect for me because I've always been very into the in-between (maybe a little more on the feminine side but obviously not fully female), but you're right that I should remember that anyone, transwoman or otherwise, can only speak for themselves and not everyone like them. It would be pointless to pretend that I'm not attracted to transwomen, but I think the thing that stops me is that there's something really personal about them identifying fully as female that stops me from pursuing something more.

It's not that the element of attraction isn't there, but one requirement I have for anyone that I'm going to be with is that they can be comfortable with themselves, or at least that they are comfortable with me being attracted to them. If I see my partner as being a trap rather than a woman, and they want to be seen as a woman and not as a trap, it's not really fair for me to pursue that or to lie and say that I'm going to see them as fully female, I'm not. Granted, I'm going to see them as better than female and even better than male, but better or worse is beside the point if they don't see it that way or if it ends up doing them harm. If they do see it that way, if they feel like they can enjoy and ideally even be proud of being a trap, being trans or a crossdresser or whatever, then we're really in business, but once someone says they're totally female and not at all male or even genderqueer/whatever other terms are in use now for gender fuckery, they're basically off-limits, the tension that would arise from a potential relationship, even strictly sexually, is just too high even if I am/would be attracted to them physically, and I'm not into psychologically fucking with my partners. If I'm going to fuck someone up–something I like to do–it's going to be to the point where they get off too.

I'm also a strict top and staunch dominant, which has worked out just fine. It's funny that you see that as your identity, dominant vs. submissive, kind of the ancient Roman thing, rather than gay/straight/bi. Maybe that'll come back into use in time as things open up.


44324d No.10129

>>10126

Jesus you hit the nail on the head with me. I'm fluid in so much as I can get along with all manner of guys gay/straight/bi, and associate all the way from fuck-you-im-a-girl to im-a-very-pretty-faggit.

So much more of it is dominant versus submissive though. I find that fuck-you-im-a-girl is my defense mechanism when submissive try to make me a dominant. Or in any situation where my submissive identity is being challenged just because I wasn't born with a vagina. On the flip side when I'm really comfortable and feel secure in my sexual identity being respected I'm really okay with being an ultra pretty faggit. It's honestly a bit relieving to not be fully female. It feels special. And for some weird reason it feels kinder and more gentle.

Now to make things even weirder the parts and to a degree the appearance in so far as gender/sex of the other person don't matter too much. If someone is full of dominant traits but has a vagina and I can legitimately associate them with dominance (admittedly far far more rare if they have a vagina) I'm just as much down. I'd let an attractive butch chick fuck me up any day. Typically though attractive tough guys wander around more often.

I'd like everyone to just get on board with admitting queer and submissive or dominant. I think that's why it grosses me out so hard when a guy is like "I'M STRAIGHT I JUST LOVE COCK" it's a lie. They know it's a lie. I know it's a lie. It's 2016. No one cares about anyone who loves cock, it's not a big deal. Just own your fluid sexuality instead of trying to make up caveats to feel secure. So that deceit and insecurity isn't dominant and turns me way off. Then there's the fact that the insecure crowd is most commonly the crowd that wants to engage in what to me appear to be more submissive sex acts. And anything that feels remotely dominant on my end turns me right off. They also seem to lack respect. Like I've been with bi guys and I'm like "oh I don't top" and they're like "OK cool" and they let it go, then we have awesome sex and fun adventures. But the insecure crowd seems to always have some version of "what do you mean you don't top? Why not? Why won't you top me? What's wrong with you" and it's like woah dude no means no fuck off. Life would be so much easier if everyone was just like "oh yeah no sorry I want to get fucked in the ass by a cock, but you don't do that so I'll look elsewhere" or "oh yeah no I just want to pound ass and I prefer when it's girly but I don't dig on vaginas , so if you're looking to get your girly ass pounded I'm your stud"

Ironically guys who know they want to pound ass are typically like that. "No I just want to pound ass". In fact most of the time they don't declare it. They just act. The second someone asks me what I am I already basically know they're a bottom, because tops just tell me to bend over and such.


9fedf5 No.10160

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>>10129

You have every right to pull the "I'm a girl, not a guy" card when someone basically tries to cross that dom-sub boundary with you in a way you aren't comfortable with, that's legitimate. For me, though, there is simply nothing on this Earth so attractive as a trap (and here I mean traps on the spectrum between crossdressing twinks and full transwomen) who in the moment or, hopefully, for longer than that, openly and fully enjoys being a trap. I am attracted in a very distinct way to that kind of self-ownership and self-definition. I love traps, I love everything about them. I always have, from the minute I had my first sexual fantasy to right now, there's just that certain something that nobody else, male or female, matches. It does seem kinder and more gentle, but also like the perfect blend sexually and personally. I never understood guys who were into traps' bodies but not the way they act normally, it's all about the lead-in. Watching a trap act really girly makes what comes next even better, and if you're in charge, you can reward that kind of girly behavior in your slaves, pets, and partner with more privileges, toys, gifts, etc. It's a really nice system.

Conversely, I'm not much attracted to self-loathing, at least not when it comes to stuff like this. Not in general, anyways, but especially in terms of sexuality. This goes for doms and subs both. Still, like I mentioned earlier, I had to learn not to be bitter about it. I pretty firmly believe that my view of other people's sexual identities should in no way hinder my own pleasure, nor should my identity hinder my own pleasure, or the pleasure of my partner. It's been ten years since I came out to myself and accepted that I like traps and other males, and in that time I've learned really well that I was right to do so, anger and self-loathing lead nowhere productive. Only following my gut and my dick with no regrets has led to success and happiness.


9fedf5 No.10161

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I also learned that it's pointless to try and convince anyone that they're one way or another even if it's patently obvious to me personally. If some guy claims to be straight and I then interrupted him in the middle of him giving a blowjob to a gaggle of the biggest, burliest bears in town to try to tell him that maybe he's just a touch bicurious, he would first swallow and second explain in no uncertain terms that he's 100% totally hetero and just really loves sucking dick. There's no arguing with someone like that even though I see these things happen regularly, it's just a fact of life.

I could despair over it, but then the question becomes, why? It's not like I'm being affected. I can't be kinkshamed, that ship sailed years ago, and as a dominant guy (I'm a slaveowner, it doesn't really get more on top than owning a person as property) in a mostly-closed relationship I certainly can't be slutshamed. I can't imagine having my relationship threatened by a straight guy, who probably wouldn't even be into my flat-chested partner even if she was into it (no). I think for genuinely straight guys into traps–I absolutely believe they exist, though I don't believe that every guy who claims he is straight and into traps (a nebulous term sometimes) truly believes it–a lot of it boils down to whether or not all the elements of femininity are there so that they can feel comfortable continuing to masturbate, even comfortable incorporating the dick into their fantasies. Once the line starts being blurred a bit more, once their brain can start to distinguish more male features other than just a dick, it doesn't work so well, but plenty of guys are into those lines being blurred, and even into blurring them themselves from the other direction. There's probably a mirror version of me out there, some well and truly heterosexual not-into-dick-at-all guy who is intensely attracted to reverse traps. I really pity him since that probably involves being attracted to mostly lesbians, but good luck to him just the same.

The bottom line is that it is a waste of my valuable time to attempt to convince someone who by all other appearances is in full and open denial. It is neither in my interests nor within my capacity to actually do. Only they can come to terms with it, and if they don't want to, it's none of my business. It may be annoying to see guys say "eww no homo" while at the same time gushing over dick, or worse, trying to get into a guy's pants (this is more acutely stupid on /cuteboys/, I'd much sooner believe self-titled straight guys on here), but trying to convince them otherwise is like trying to convince a turd to polish itself, it's not going to happen. Either they'll come to grips with it in their own time and their own way or they won't. Either way, my sex life is fine so it's neither here nor there. I wish other gay and bi guys who get into these arguments would keep that in mind; it's not about them, it's about the guy making the claim. If they're gay and bi and into traps or into dick, they don't need to get others on board with saying so, they need to own it and they need to be the ones to say so for themselves. Do they even want someone on their team or whatever who doesn't want to be there? That's for hentai and rape fantasies, not real life.

I understand the anger of other gay and bi guys who feel they're being somehow insulted in all of this, but they have to do their best to choose their battles. Does it seem insecure and hypocritical? Yes, but only because I'm in a position where I own it under a certain term–gay–and not under some other term like 'straight with exceptions' or 'bisexual' or whatever else someone in my position might call themselves. It's pretty obvious that I'm as close to straight as possible while still being strictly attracted to people with penises who like having penises, so I'm as much in the gray zone as anyone, I just come at it from the other side. Identifying as a dominant more than as a homosexual would probably clear things up a bit, but for the time being, I don't think those labels are fully going away, or that they even should. People already assume I'm heterosexual until I tell them I'm not, I don't act the part of gay, so it would probably be even more confusing if I had to call myself 'dominant' and then qualify that with 'but also gay.'


be68d7 No.10164

>>10161

> Once the line starts being blurred a bit more, once their brain can start to distinguish more male features other than just a dick, it doesn't work so well, but plenty of guys are into those lines being blurred,

yep that's me. I was into the bimbo shemales for a long time. then i wanted flat girls. then it wasn't enough, I needed something more raw, so crossdressers, and eventually I removed every element of femininity until I spent a night watching muscle dude orgy (yikes!).

but I managed to claw my way back after the allure of "new exciting porn" wore off. Like they say "everything is about sex, except for sex; sex is about power." That's why I enjoyed the gay stuff so much, it was interesting to witness a man (who naturally should be dominant over a woman), submit to another man. But I got bored and scaled back and spirecat (http://www.xtube.com/profile/Spirecat-11298031#videos), is the only thing that really does it for me on the gay side.

I don't think about power with girls and traps though. It feels a lot less psychological, i just naturally enjoy their feminine features. I like all types of girls and all body shapes except obese. But for guys, it's really only the twinks. It's why I feel so uncomfortable actually calling myself bi. I just feel so limited on the gay side it doesn't feel right to make it equal by calling myself bi. Whatever small amounts of femininity twinks exhibit, i am latching onto. I guess this is a complicated way of saying "im insecure" but at least I can explain it I guess. Ah well, I'm only 22, I'm sure there's more to come.


44324d No.10170

>>10161

Wow. Your partner/sub/slave is from what I can tell through an internet image board discussion very lucky. Your personality turns me on a lot.

That was really enlightening. I pick my battles with it for sure but your point is becoming more and more apparent to me.

I do try to defend the submissiveness of traps pretty openly because I feel all of the current trans porn is following a general theme of depicting us as dominants. And as a submissive who has been hit on aggressively by countless misinformed submissives I take issue with that. But it's also just as much because I want to see a more active culture of dominant men interacting with traps. I get that to a degree if they're out there and into it they'll be out there and into regardless of my efforts but I feel very strongly about putting a voice out there "some/many traps are submissive and seek dominant males, here's porn for them" to encourage discussion and just because it's hot and there isn't enough out there in my opinion.

You remind me a ton of the guy that really pushed me into trapping.

It will never cease to be arousing to me to hear a guy just own his sexuality. That whole "I don't care about labels I just know what I want" or "I don't give afuck what I 'am' I want to stick my dick in you" that's like my sexual kryptonite. Leaves me debilitated it's so hot.


a58e58 No.10226

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>>10129

>Then there's the fact that the insecure crowd is most commonly the crowd that wants to engage in what to me appear to be more submissive sex acts. And anything that feels remotely dominant on my end turns me right off.

Guilty! lol

Was talking to this trap about hooking up, didn't expect to be fucked, but at least to suck some dick, you know? Uh-uh, not having it, but then what's the point? Everything a trap tries to emulate about woman, girls do better without even trying, so I may as well fuck a real girl if even touching a traps dick is an issue. Not trying to be mean, I just think the dick is really what gives traps that edge over a real woman, so its disappointing to discover so many aren't interested in it being a part of sex. I'd still totally hook up with someone like this, but definitely wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who I couldn't bury my face in their crotch.

>>10164

>But for guys, it's really only the twinks. It's why I feel so uncomfortable actually calling myself bi. I just feel so limited on the gay side it doesn't feel right to make it equal by calling myself bi.

I can relate. I know I'm technically bi-sexual, but I've never taken it seriously or internalized it as part of my identity. What I've found is that I'm very comfortable with what I like, I just don't really resonate with the word that comes with it (bisexual), probably because it implies I'm way more into dudes than I am, I've never even had a crush on another guy. I searched grindr, okcupid, tinder, and craiglist, yet couldn't find a single guy who I was even slightly interested in.

If other guys who are into traps feel anything like I do then I can understand why so many cling to the straight label for dear life, one of the main reasons I keep my sexuality to myself is because I don't want guys thinking its okay to hit on me or, which is funny coming from a bi guy.


be3be2 No.10228

>>10170

That's generous of you to say! I like to think I'm a good dominant, mostly because I know I am since my slaves usually climax more often than I do (though rarely do they get to actually cum–chastity is fun). Traps being dominant is fine but I'm not into it at all, I want to be totally in control. I think that's one reason I'm not very much into futanari, not simply because I'm not the biggest fan of tits but because the fantasy often seems to be two of them together fucking, rather than being fucked or dominated by a guy. There's obviously a demand for dominant futas, and by extension, dominant traps, transwomen, etc. I'm all for it to the extent that it works for those people but I prefer actual porn because usually that does involve transwomen being fucked like girls.

One thing I'm disappointed in is the lack of truly rough kink in trap porn. Certainly in stuff like hentai and drawn porn, that can be explored, but even what I consider to be a pretty mild, base-level kink like petplay seems rare. I know why this is; there's not much trap porn relative to straight or gay porn, but I miss the element of danger and 'fuck-it-i'm-going-to-collar-you' attitude that can happen when it's not porn but just two people doing their own thing. But again, really it's a matter of taste, and so long as I dominate in my own relationship and so long as my partner finds it to be as loving and fulfilling as I do, that's the bottom line. Since you mentioned it and I'm curious, how did you get into trapping?


be68d7 No.10302

>GAY MEN NOT INTO SHEMALE PORN

>NOTHING GAY ABOUT SHEMALE PORN; NEUROLOGICAL ILLUSION

>NOT SOME UNDERLYING PSYCHOLOGICAL THING GOING, PURE VISUAL TRICKERY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4

great short lecture on porn interests between men and women and their sexuality and interests. We actually have cited data now that Traps aren't gay rofl. He mentions that four body parts all men, gay and straight, are interested in are Breasts, butt, feet & PENIS. Vagina can be constant, but big penis porn even for straight sex is a top search category.

There is some talk about domination/submission as well. While men have this "wiring" for both types, He does mention that gay men obviously have a propensity for submission, so the guys who highly favor bottoming very well may be in denial (due to their outspoken behavior), but it's within both realms so it's unsure. Also mentions that women find confidence especially attractive, so you being part girl factors a lot in your passion for confident men >>10129

Last points I want to bring up is that he mentions gay dudes being into Buck Angel. Also, he says being gay is biological. It's probably why >>10164 and >>10226 don't feel comfortable with claiming the "bisexual" identity, because whereas liking traps is not psychological, whatever interest in men could be so, and it's out of the design of the male brain to be that fucking complicated lol, especially if it was learned through porn addiction and not just well, being auto-gay.


dd6dc6 No.10520

>>6454

Damn you are dumb. Read up on gynephilia you degenerate basketcase.


44324d No.10530

>>10302

That's like the formula for determining penis size in Southpark. I mean, it's whatever. It just gets hella old when dudes are like "I'm straight!… FUCK MY ASS!" - but mostly because it's insulting to my own submissive nature. Also it gets harder to buy when the girl looks more like a man than a woman, which is what I'm seeing in much of the newer material aside from some notable and commendable exceptions. That's not a statement on MY look either but an objective view of the trans porn industry as a hole. (Inb4 troll fags say I'm a dood)

I still believe it's a sliding scale for both sexual orientation and dominance/submission. It makes the most sense from my personal experience.

And my preference will always be straighter and more dominant. But there are plenty of all kinds out there.


2d90ee No.10537

>>10226

>Everything a trap tries to emulate about woman, girls do better without even trying

Well, from my perspective it may the opposite, if you don't have a vagina, it makes you focus on using other ways and techniques more efficiently, if you know what I mean. Like the whole "being more of a girl than a real girl" argument or something like this. From a bottom point of view it seems quite clear why some traps want to focus on something that is not their penis to enrichen their experience.


2d90ee No.10538

>remember that I started this thread long time ago

>it's full of walls of text

>expecting some autistic argument over some bullshit

>it's actually quite a nice discussion

You know what people, you are ok.




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