/trap/ - Traps

chasers are basically just people that reduce and sexualize trans girls to chicks with dicks and ignore that they're individual people with their own wants and desires and shit

Basically:

• don't bring up the penor

• don't compliment too much

• like you said, keep your options open

• don't lead with fucking unless you know they're sluts

• take them out on cute dinner dates and mini golf :3

You sound more like you want a fwb and if it turns out she's trans, that's alright. In that instance don't specifically look for trans girls or advertise that you're looking for them since that looks like you're a chaser no matter what. Just meet cool girls and see what happens! Also, be attractive.

The ones that complain about this shit haven't learned how to play the girl in a relationship, and aren't worth dating anyway.

>>7926

>Also, be attractive.

Well I'm screwed

>>7926

I know WHAT a chaser is, but that's different than not coming off as one. And yeah, I figured just treating them like average girls is probably the best solution. But from what little experience I've had with trans girls, they seem to always be on guard. I suppose for those chasers. I get it. If I'm like "Hey, I'm a straight guy and not really interested in your dick" immediate response is he's running some sort of game.

>You sound more like you want a fwb

Actually no. I'm getting too old for that shit honestly.

>Also, be attractive.

WELL SHIT might as well say "have a lot of money too" lol

This is all more really an intellectual exercise I think. A "what if" scenario. I don't think I'll ever run into a trap where we both have mutual attraction. It's more for on the outside chance it DOES happen, how do I play it as to not give off the creepy chase vibes. And I'll be honest here, my relationships with girls haven't gone very well. Lots of craziness, lying, retardation, and all sorts of other nonsense. To the point that I guess I'm just willing to try something else out, that something else being a trans girl. If a potential relationship goes tits up, oh well I tried.

>>7935

It almost sounds like you're trying to get a transgirl because of you're past negative experiences with cis girls. Which would be a pretty shitty thing to do

>>7937

I see where you're coming from, but no. That's not really my intention. That would imply I'm swearing off cis girls, and I have intention of doing that. BTW, I agree that's a fairly shitty thing to do.

I would say I'm more expanding my horizons, or whatever you want to call it. I've had a few positive (non sexual) experiences with trans girls and realize that maybe I could be happy with a trans girl in the same way I could be happy with a cis girl. It's not an either/or thing.

I guess this is the reason why I posted. I have zero clue about this world. I'm not in it whatsoever. All experiences with it are limited in scope. Literal fucking noob.

>>7938

> That would imply I'm swearing off cis girls, and I have intention of doing that.

I meant no intention. Jesus H need to stop late night posting.

I always tell guys to just treat me like any other woman, including in bed. Slight modifications needed for that last part, obviously. Anyhow, I have zero interest in anyone who expresses desire for girlpenis or wants me to answer transgender questions all the time. It's just not something I care about and don't want to spent my life being reminded I'm "different." Lol this one guy, we were on a coffee date, I came back from the restroom, and he's like, "so do you still stand up to pee?" Uh…what?

Hope I'm not projecting too hard ^.^ I totally understand what you're getting at and unfortunately I don't think it's easy to explain other than my first sentence. I suppose the best thing, if you're looking on the internet, would be to rather have a normal "looking for women" post or profile but add in a short, unassuming blurb that you're also okay with transwomen. That's it.

I'm curious how you stumbled upon multiple transwomen. OKCupid?

>>7971

>I'm curious how you stumbled upon multiple transwomen. OKCupid?

No, nothing like that. Just 20 years of being active on the internet. Ran into some playing games on Steam or Xbox Live. Just average internet interactions really. Although I did have a run in with one about 10 or so years ago out and about. We hit it off and she was cute and seemed interested. We were pretty close to making something happen when she told me she was trans. Had no clue before hand, she was pretty passable. At the time I had no interest in trans girls so I declined and she took well I think.

At the time I was like ah weird shit happens, big deal. Now I feel like a dick and wish I had kept it going. She seemed very nice. I have no idea how large or active the trans community in my area even is, so I don't know if that was a super rare occurrence or what. I'm not in the LGBT thing at all.

>>7973

Really, you shouldn't feel bad. Most men aren't into transwomen, post-op or otherwise, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I think transsexuals are like 0.2% of the population? I don't remember. It's going to be extremely rare you happen upon them. Although it seems there's a lot of transtrenders and other weirdos cropping up, but you'd spot them right out.

How old are you and what country/region?

>>7974

I know what you mean about transtrenders. I have no interest in those types at all. Beyond being stereotypical Tumblrinas, they often seem way into social justice stuff…not a fan of that whatsoever. I think I can spot someone that's for real serious about being transgender and when someone is just trying to score special snowflake/oppression points.

As for me, I'm in my early 30s and in the US/Florida area.

>>7975

Kek the stories I have about people who claim they're women, or wanted to be. You really don't wanna get in with the "trans community." Especially for finding dates.

Dang, I'm over 1000mi away.

>>7976

Yeah, in my limited experience with trans people I've come to understand that the mainline community is full of snakes and just shitty people over all. None of the trans people I've had any extended conversations with regarding that community had anything nice to say about it. They seems to be like "Yeah, I'm trans, but I'm not one of these faggots." I think it ties in with the whole social justice thing as well. Dudes in funny wigs looking or a cause don't interest me at all. It's the transgirls that put the time and effort into achieving what the desire regarding their transition that I respect. They're almost always the prettiest ones with the best attitudes too, no coincidence I think.

>Dang, I'm over 1000mi away.

:(

Biscum here. What's so wrong with wanting to sleep with traps just for pleasure's sake? Its like sleeping with womans or males, why when wanting to do the same with a trap you need to carry a whole baggage to do so?

>>7985

Kinda. I don't have a problem with casual sex, but there's usually some weirdness attached like you described. The fucking secretiveness, even if you pass 100% or weren't planning more than a one-night stand, they let you know very explicitly (IMO unnecessarily, like they'd actually tell this to a cis woman) that they cannot be associated with you. Basically makes you feel like you're some grotesque, shameful throw-away who needs to be kept in a secret lair. Like they're ashamed of what they're about to do (but it's your fault, not theirs) but will drag you into it, anyway. It's very creepy!

There's totally cool guys I've been with as FWBs, though. I wouldn't expect to date a fuck buddy, but there's a difference between valuing and devaluing someone as a person. The majority of would-be liaisons basically stamp you with a scarlet letter from the get-go and want some weird shemale experience, like basically how you'd expect two gay men to fuck eachother; when a classic transwoman doesn't fuck like a dude, nor want her member to be the star of the show. I had some seriously creepy experiences early on. Ugh.

Does this make any sense? I understand what the guy was asking, I'm having a hard time explaining why, in practice, it just doesn't work without sounding like a princess. Sheer volume of jackasses? It's a massive waste of time and feefees when practically no one has any respect for you as a normal, non-objectified person. K ima shutup lol.

>>7984

I don't think there's anything wrong with that by itself. So long as you make it very clear up front that's what you're about. From what I've gathered in this topic and talking to transgirls myself is that they don't want to be tricked or strung along. It's hard enough to find a straight guy that's willing to date them, and be seen in public with them. I think they just want what most other people want, and that's to have as normal of a relationship with someone else as possible.

And also it's why I asked how to not come off as a chaser. Those guys are fucking creepy.

>>7989

>Does this make any sense?

yeah it does. Almost all attractive people feel the same tho, and they dont make of it such a big fuss

thanks for answering.

>>7993

do you consider people that use tinder chasers?

>>8061

>do you consider people that use tinder chasers?

I suppose if they're just on Tinder to try and hook up with transgender whoevers, yeah. If they're on it just to get laid and don't really care what parts they have…nah.

>>8066

I looked through that older thread and I have to agree with one point that was made a few times. It's the fact that transgirls WANT to be feminine. That's probably one of the things I like and appreciate the most about them. I like my girlfriends to act like girls, and to have that need to be wanted by a guy. It's a good feeling. Lot of genetic girls shy away from this, and I don't understand why. It's not attractive at all.

Point about the penis though, I must be a rarity or something because I'm not particularly interested in dicks. Like at all. One of the huge what ifs I have is, never having been with a transgirl before, what if a girl I was with wanted to be stimulated and have orgasms. What the hell am I going to do about that? I don't know, and I probably won't until that situation ever happens.

>>8067

I always tell guys to treat me like you would any woman and it works out pretty well. So pretty much I'll blow them, they chew up my tits, eat my ass/69, and fuck me anally, all in various positions. Sucking cock isn't a bit necessary or unavoidable.

>>8067

Would you be interested in a post-op? As much as I'd like there to be a magic pill to make them happy with keeping their penis, the women who feel obliged to go that path will want love as well.

>>8068

Sounds completely reasonable, sure.

>>8072

I don't see why not. I like girls and girls being girly, so I guess if they fit that category just like a genetic girl or trap with a dick, sure. I will say though that the traps with all kinds of surgery don't do much for me though. I feel this way about genetic girls too. Fake tits, fake ass, fake lips, etc…major turn off. As weird as it sounds, I rather have girls and transgirls look more nature. I suppose with transgirls that just means taking meds, doing transition things and just letting nature take over.

That make any sense?

>>7984

Nothing wrong with sex for sex's sake. I like sex! I love the attention even more! :D

And I expect potential mates to be interested in my penis, even if I'd rather not use it. Otherwise, they'd be with a genetic girl, and it would be a boring time in bed.

But here is an example of a typical "chaser" I meet:

Someone messages me on OkCupid, asking how I was doing. I respond back I'm doing ok… and then I get 20 messages in my inbox from him asking me to dominate him, fill him with cream, where do you live, can I come over now, etc etc. Goes on for a few days, each day the emails being more pleading and scary than the last…

Yeah… serial killer material. All my instincts yell RUN!

And it happens quite often. It isn't fun.

So it basically boils down to: do I trust someone enough to not feel like they will be wearing my face as a hat?

Sometimes I wonder if I am a stuck up bitch for not giving people that scare me a second chance at their fantasy. But I scare easy :(

>>8108

What the hell does your profile/photos say that you get so many overly-sexual creeps? I've never had that problem, even before I had an effective "I'm trans but stfu about it" sticker.

>>8108

>Sometimes I wonder if I am a stuck up bitch for not giving people that scare me a second chance at their fantasy. But I scare easy :(

I can hardly blame you, that's creepy as all fuck.

>>8111

Part of it might be location.

>>7971

Well, do you still stand up to pee? You have a unique situation where you neither have to hover, or sit down on a toilet seat if you want to not pee in public. Those things aren't necessarily clean.

>>8181

I sit at my house and hover in public. I know I don't have to, but still. 'Tis comforting staying out of dude mode.

>>7934

maybe, maybe not.

if aren't fat and are not a slob, it shows that you are making an effort even if you aren't naturally good looking.

>>8108

>>8108

Damn. No, I think you're probably wise not to give them a second chance. I'm a cis male, and a pretty big guy at that, and that kind of shit would make me nope the fuck off of any dating site.

It's ironic that any traps or trans that care about chasing are tumblr SJWs that aren't worth dating anyway.

>>8479

you act like sticking up for people is a bad thing.