/trap/ - Traps

>1

I'm not trans, I just want to be androgynous

>2

I'm not very much aware of this but I do believe that Shia nations tend to be more democratic since they vote on their religious leaders IIRC

>3

It's awful for one thing europes culture will slowly be wiped out and for another pretty much anyone who isn't a male muslim will be royally screwed

>4

I'm bi so I like girls and guysa bit more of girls I think

>5

See above

>6

I think they shouldn't be applied until 16-18 but if they feel strongly hormone blockers should be used until they make up their mind

>7

Fascist with some libertarian ideals

>>8981 (contd)

3. With jews you lose. Ofc white genocide is a horrible thing, not just for us but the entire world that uses our inventions and expertise. I think LGBT will be facing a crackdown as they have in Eastern Europe because of their insolence to our cultures and demonisation of straight, family-loving people. In those countries, it is not illegal to be gay or have gay sex. It's illegal to promote being gay and pester people about it. Homosexuals make up, I think, 3-5% of the hominid population on average. Transsexuals are 0.2%, the best official figure that I know of. IMO transsexualism should be treated as a private medical issue.

4. Gay men are fine being men who have relations with men because they are men. I need to be a straight woman with a straight man who wants me for being a woman and treats me like one, too. Or at least it's real in my mind :^) It's my understanding that most gay men don't keep long-term monogamous relationships and are not family-oriented. I'd love to be someone's wife and take care of him and have his children. Gay men don't feel these things.

5. I'm straight, but the incidence of lesbianism in MtFs is much higher than the natal female population. Probably because of the effect of steroids on brain development. I was actually straight before transitioning (love women as a man), waffled during, and now I'm straight again (love men as woman). So exogenous hormones do influence your sexual attractions and compulsions. Like girls smell gross now, but guys are delicious. It was opposite before hormones. I've just lost my attraction for females. Not to mention, I think females are more weirded out by transsexuals than men.

6. I can't answer this. If they're given hormones during adolescence then they will develop just as if they were born as their target sex. If they change their mind after, then that sucks. I'll agree with the other poster and let the experts decide. I would hope they are more thorough and take it more seriously than they do with adults. See, I didn't know about trans anything until I was maybe 20. When I was going through puberty, I tried to rationalise my feelings as perhaps I was subconsciously upset about growing up; even though I really had no problem with it, but what the hell was I supposed to think about my feelings? If I was given the option to transition then, I don't have a clue what I'd have done. I tried very hard to function as a man is supposed to and accept my skin, but I could never hide it or forget it.

I didn't actually transition until I was maybe 26? Because at the time my body was starting up another phase of masculinisation which freaked me out and I forced myself to confront the issue.

7. I'm NatSoc with strong blood-and-soil values. Before /pol/ the farthest I got was confirming I was socialist (not Marxist), and I was missing the nationalist and volk component. Idgaf about republicans and democrats because I think they're both piece of shit parties that are smoke and mirrors, and they just do what they're told/paid. IMO JFK was probably the last president who was his own man,and he was assassinated for issuing state currency and phasing out the kike-run Federal Reserve.

There's a thread here with more /pol/ discussion at https://8ch.net/trap/res/7351.html

Also, if you wanna see a good example of why people hate trannies, here's a thread on Leddit where I call out one for being a stupid bitch insulting everyone for not knowing about her snowflake issues, demanding acceptance, etc. I'm huehue1776. https://m.reddit.com/r/OkCupid/comments/3k1for/transqueer_folks_on_okcupid/

>>8965

Thank you for taking the time to answer my queries. Can't fault the answers, except possibly for:

>I'm of the opinion it should be left up to medical professionals, the child, and their parents to decide what is best.

I've seen posts on /pol/ whereby the parents had pressured children to conform to non-gender roles. For example some crazy single mother who was encouraging her son to do it, to spite the father. Also those medical professionals are probably in the pocket of big pharma companies and earn a commission for every recommendation.

However ultimately you are right, it should be up to the child, perhaps at the age of 12 if they still insist, then it can proceed later. Either way it doesn't matter I'm not a politician.

>However the misconception that gay men all act like flamers is presumed in such an argument. I know gay men, unless they told you, that are not effeminate in anyway and who are not flamers.

I have two gay friends IRL (they aren't a couple), both are the complete opposite of "flamers". One loves philosophy and history and I would consider one of my best friends. The other is athletic and reserved, we used to get on drugs together and there was no "gay vibe".

Both top blokes.

>Libertarian-Right

Theres are new term being thrown around, I've used it myself on /pol/ called National Libertarianism. Trying to call for a compromise between the Nat Soc element and the Libertarian movement. Obviously NatSoc's disagree with Libertarian's open border policies. However opening your borders to those whom do not share your ideals of Liberty will ultimately erode it.

Like I said it's a compromise, as in a National Socialist society, data retention laws and spying on citizens would be wide spread. Something I'm sure most of us would feel invasive.

Also if thats your picture, you are quite pretty. Walking down the street I probably couldn't tell the difference. I suppose that what may shock most people these days, how far it's developed.

>>8977

Thank you also.

>Fascist with some libertarian ideals.

See my above post about National Libertarianism. I feel like incorporating elements of each political class we can agree on with create more board cohesion. It seems stupid that we all are still subscribed to anarchic books written by Karl Marx over 100 years ago.

>Its 2015 goys.

>>8981

Ah cool, I felt like you were genuinely trying to state your case. Which is brave considering /pol/s authoritarianism lately. I must admit I'm also National Socialist, however there are still elements I feel should be changed. You do know that /pol/ is probably frequented by young teenagers who constantly try to outdo each other in terms of edginess, so I wouldn't take their criticisms to heart.

Without trying to sound like an SJW, sometimes the alt-right should be more inclusive to those that share its political beliefs.

>With jews you lose.

Top kek.

>7. I'm NatSoc with strong blood-and-soil values. Before /pol/ the farthest I got was confirming I was socialist (not Marxist), and I was missing the nationalist and volk component. Idgaf about republicans and democrats because I think they're both piece of shit parties that are smoke and mirrors, and they just do what they're told/paid. IMO JFK was probably the last president who was his own man,and he was assassinated for issuing state currency and phasing out the kike-run Federal Reserve.

I'm sure you'll make some man very happy one day. There seems to be more acceptance of transsexualism lately.

>Not to mention, I think females are more weirded out by transsexuals than men.

Yes, I think so too. A transgender tried to fight my friends girlfriend in a club about a year ago, she was obviously weirded out by the situation. I think ultimately it also might come down to competition. Women don't like to admit it, but they are always in competition with each other subconsciously to secure a mate. Perhaps some feel threatened, as many are as equally confused about men as men are about women, and perhaps transsexuals are seen as having an unfair advantage.

>There's a thread here with more /pol/ discussion at https://8ch.net/trap/res/7351.html

I've been reading through it, one thing I noticed was a user state that cuckchan /pol/ used to be more accepting of transsexuals back in the day.

I believe this is due to classic mainstream theory. By once something becomes mainstream, it ceases to be a taboo. You know how much chan culture hates "normies", perhaps users feel now that transsexuals have become mainstream and they have lost a piece of their culture. Something that was just for them. Or perhaps SJWs using the trans-community during gamergate, made them feel like they were in league with them, or perhaps that some are attention seekers, who may not genuinely feel they are women but doing it for the wrong reasons. Kind of like with the Caitlyn Jenner episode, I think all that did was stigmatise the trans-community. Perhaps for attention or for profit, IDK. Either way I read somewhere that Caitlyn was thinking about transitioning back to Bruce, which seems odd.

I wouldn't know to be honest. Two of my friends were oldfags from cuckchans /b/, they were always on it and showing me stuff like that Boxxy girl etc. I only came to hate chan after gamergate, whereby I became addicted to /pol/. So I'm relatively new to chan culture, and can only make assumptions.

Either way I think it should be said, that I hope none of you do "kill yourselves." Ultimately you should be happy and proud of who you are, despite whether or not people accept it. In a way, this is kind of what Hitler preached. A pride in ones self, and he was allied to Ernest Rohm at one point. Probably even considered him a friend in the beginning.

>>8965

>>8977

>>8981

A few more questions for all three of you.

At what age did you start to feel like you were women? Also what age did you begin your treatments? Are you (or have you been) employed? Do you hold any degree's or higher education? And have you ever faced blatant hostility or harassment from either sex?

Thanks again.

To interject briefly in this outstanding thread

>>8988

>By once something becomes mainstream, it ceases to be a taboo. You know how much chan culture hates "normies", perhaps users feel now that transsexuals have become mainstream and they have lost a piece of their culture.

That is part of it, but imho the biggest part of it was the rise of the most extreme Tumblresque trans/genderfluid freaks. Char the Butcher, Ahuviya Harel, the Die Cis Scum Youtube girl, and a number of others redefined how many if not most people on image boards think of transgenders.

The term "trap" arose on chans, and not that long ago it made everyone think about Linetrap (Bailey Jay) and Darktrap (Katie Ayanami) who used to post sometimes on 4chan. They had a sense of humor about everything, lived happy & contented lives, and held the trap promise of a hot girl who was into guy things, had a guy's outlook, and none of the female baggage like personal drama or watching soap operas and The View. Other traps that were posted all the time include the incredibly hot Ellery Sweet who had a Youtube channel, the young Kimber James, and Sarina Valentine. Most hostile banter regarding traps was that you were gay for liking them. We have that here, and the whole debate is really tongue-in-cheek, because nobody cares.

Around 2013-2014, the mood began to switch thanks to the freaks mentioned earlier.

I will also add that transgenders as a group are pretty vulnerable. They are a relatively small group, and most people aren't friends with one personally. There are a few different subgroups with somewhat different motivations and outlooks, and for most people it is hard to get a handle on what they're all about. They are a very easy group to put down or make fun of. If the public face of transgenders are either freaks, or angry idiots like Janet Mock, or manipulative headcases like Brianna Wu, instead of simply normal people leading happy and productive lives, then they are going to be a very easy target.

>>8987

>I've seen posts on /pol/ whereby the parents had pressured children to conform to non-gender roles. For example some crazy single mother who was encouraging her son to do it, to spite the father. Also those medical professionals are probably in the pocket of big pharma companies and earn a commission for every recommendation.

That is a terrible tragedy and it bothers me when it goes bad either way (parents who foist it upon children or ignore their transgender children's needs) and I have no real solution to that problem. Thankfully I believe the fore is an extreme minority.

>Also if thats your picture, you are quite pretty. Walking down the street I probably couldn't tell the difference. I suppose that what may shock most people these days, how far it's developed.

Thank you. I do not often get clocked, I'm 5'4, very petite, but I've put a lot of effort into it without having to resort to pornography which I refuse to do.

>>8988

>At what age did you start to feel like you were women?

I've felt it right around 12/13 when boys and girls start showing major differences. I wanted to develop like a girl but that wasn't happening. It wasn't until my mid-20s did I realize there was a treatment.

>Also what age did you begin your treatments?

I think of my transition in 3 parts. The first is a social transition where to take on your female identity and accept it. This is the part where one starts dressing, talking, etc of women. The second part is the chemical transition which is hormone replacement therapy, and finally the 3rd is surgical transition which involves hair removal, facial feminization, and finally sexual reassignment. I"m currently between the 2nd and 3rd stage. I started the first I'd say around 29 and started hormones 01JAN2015.

>Are you (or have you been) employed?

I've had several jobs from McDonalds burgerflipper in my teens, to the military through most of my adult life, to call centers, and now I work as a project surveyor for mineral company.

>Are you (or have you been) employed? Do you hold any degree's or higher education?

I have a BS in physics.

>And have you ever faced blatant hostility or harassment from either sex?

Sure, but who hasn't?

>>8988

Ty. I rarely talk about trans stuff anywhere. With /pol/, every time, they bring up the same stuff (chromosomes, suicide stats, kike science etc) and basically I'm expected to refute and justify a ton of stuff before they'll consider my question or concern. It just bugs me, being a normal person who dindu nuffin, that they claim should be hunted down and killed. But Marxists will accept me, but I don't want their destructive ideology. I am a very strongly-principled person, though, so I'll keep believing what I think is right rather than what makes me feel good.

You mention Hitler, I don't think NatSoc Germany would have had a problem with transsexuals. IIRC the first sex change was in the 1910s in Berlin. Usually, in historical matters, /pol/ keeps citing the same thing (like muh bog man). I think this issue is also discussed in the other thread linked above and has quite a bit of information on Western gay history.

But again, this massive fucking end-of-the-world death spiral is only about 0.2% of the population. They act as if it's allowed to be promoted then everybody will transition, when 95% of people are completely content with being straight, cis, and monogamous. They don't put the issue in perspective, they don't care to understand or discuss, it's all hate. They pick a position, then only look for data to support it. I have noticed a new trend, they (and that faggot kike Milo Yionnapoulos-smthg) are calling SRS vagina some vulgar thing like a sweaty sock, and cite a paper about it having bacterial vaginosis. Well, that paper is about ONE person, it's not a study of thousands of individuals, it's one fucking person. /pol/ can be really bigoted, sometimes; and that's not a word I use often or without concern. They really just don't understand this issue.

>At what age did you start to feel like you were women?

I dunno lol. I always felt something was off, I just didn't figure it out until my mid-20s.

>Also what age did you begin your treatments?

26. So far I've only hormones. I don't need FFS or a tracheal shave, I do need SRS and would like bigger boobs. They don't grow as much when you transition after your teens/early 20s.

>Are you (or have you been) employed?

Yes. I transitioned in fast food, then hopped to retail stocking, now I'm at a call centre.

>Do you hold any degree's or higher education?

Two-year uni dropout. I'm going vocational soon.

>And have you ever faced blatant hostility or harassment from either sex?

Yes. My boss in fast food would make smart remarks all the time. I was shoved out of that job. It was a nightmare, because I was literally a paycheck or two away from being homeless. Meanwhile stress was being piled on. I was actually really respected at work until I started transitioning. I couldn't just get any job because my IDs were still male (I couldn't afford filing costs).

Also been sexually harassed. Mostly I don't care because it's just catcalls and pickup lines. I did have problems with two nogs, one kept slapping my butt and the other kept rubbing his crotch on me. That pissed me off and I took care of it.

Another uncomfortable experience, two girls literally held me down in a corner and felt up my boobs.

>>8990

That sounds like WPATH standards. Did you do the one year real-life experience before doing HRT? I'd be scared to death trying that. I was on hormones for about 6mos before going full-time. But I am also 5'9", despite being physically feminine that is tall here. It still makes a difference in gender cues like fat distribution and skin quality.

>>8988

I guess I realized I also liked guys around my sophomore year I guess.wanting to be androgynous started a little bit after that.

Really tried hard to quash those feelings,Mahican worked for a while.but started to resurface around time of graduation.was real uptight and extremely anti-homosexual while I kept slid on that.

>>9010

I didn't "have" to do one year RLE, I just did it because I largely wanted to test the waters before doing something irreversible.

Then again, I have always been fairly androgynous and combined with being short, 5'4 (by male standards anyway), and being thin, I had an easy time of it and figured out quickly it was the right choice for me.

I had nearly 2-years of RLE before doing HRT.

I should have done this 10 years ago. Oh well, no sense whining about that now. I'm happy.

>>8987

>in a National Socialist society, data retention and spying would be widespread

There wouldn't have to be such laws. The reason why Germany had all these invasive and scary organisations is because they were trying to excise their rat problem. They did not plan to continue all operations after they won the war, they did what they thought was necessary to regain their land and people. All the things that the NSDAP did wouldn't apply to every country, because each country has their own problems and customs. However, the elementary ideas of NatSoc (about borders, labour, etc) are transplantable. It's common for people to confuse the basic philosophy, itself, with the actions of people who popularised them. A NatSoc society can allow drugs, prostitution, etc and still be within bounds of the essential framework. So, within NatSoc Germany, they practiced many other philosophies such as those concerning segregation. And like the NSDAP was not spastic about gays, unlike the NatSoc package espoused by Norman Rockwell. Handsome dude but come on, his stances on some things are ridiculous.

Hope this makes sense. I've been terribly sick and not thinking straight.

>>9013

I see. I'm very happy it worked out for you. And I agree that transitioning is serious business, not to be jumped into. You can't "test drive" hormones, bewbs are permanent. Plus the emotional rollercoaster at the beginning is terrible, and takes a lot of will to push through; but I guess you could say that about the entire process. Those without determination and steely resolve won't make it. I have known people who have been on hormones for years and still live like a man. It's scary to transition but it's all or nothing.

>>8989

>That is part of it, but imho the biggest part of it was the rise of the most extreme Tumblresque trans/genderfluid freaks. Char the Butcher, Ahuviya Harel, the Die Cis Scum Youtube girl, and a number of others redefined how many if not most people on image boards think of transgenders.

>The term "trap" arose on chans, and not that long ago it made everyone think about Linetrap (Bailey Jay) and Darktrap (Katie Ayanami) who used to post sometimes on 4chan. They had a sense of humor about everything, lived happy & contented lives, and held the trap promise of a hot girl who was into guy things, had a guy's outlook, and none of the female baggage like personal drama or watching soap operas and The View. Other traps that were posted all the time include the incredibly hot Ellery Sweet who had a Youtube channel, the young Kimber James, and Sarina Valentine. Most hostile banter regarding traps was that you were gay for liking them. We have that here, and the whole debate is really tongue-in-cheek, because nobody cares.

I must admit, I am unfamiliar with any of those names. Like I previously said, I never really used to go to 4chan. My two friends would show me stuff like the Boxxy vid, the raids, the dox's and old school anonymous shenanigans. One time they ordered gifts for some lonely old man on his birthday didn't they?

The only time I was familiar with "traps" was when we'd be drunk at the pub. My mate used to show this gorgeous Russian brunette on his smart phone, and ask us what we all thought of her. We'd all rave on like dogs about what we'd do to her, and then he'd scroll down to reveal a massive dick.

We'd all fall silent, and he'd piss himself at us. I'm not sure if that is one of the girls you are talking about.

>Around 2013-2014, the mood began to switch thanks to the freaks mentioned earlier.

I think it does have something to do with the Tumblrette/SJW element to transsexualism. On /pol/ they mostly spam that Die CIS scum member (with the baseball bat?), I suppose that's used to justify their position. They never use any of the pictures on here, they probably couldn't tell the difference.

Brianna Wu probably didn't help any. One minute I'm minding my own business enjoying video games, nek minut I'm told I'm a piece of shit for enjoying video games by someone I've never heard of or met. I suppose that kind of behaviour brings on resentment, however shouldn't justify hatred towards any one groups (except Jews - with further exception to Larry David.)

>>8990

Military work, a BS in physics and a job for a resource based company. You're probably more successful than half the people on this site. It's stories like yours that probably should be shared as opposed to the stories shared by Wu & Co. As opposed to focusing on the drama and oppression, rather share your story of success, to prove that the trans community is productive and if anything respectable citizens.

> but I've put a lot of effort into it without having to resort to pornography which I refuse to do.

Additional respect, I have a general distaste for pornography, at least most forms.

>>9009

>With /pol/, every time, they bring up the same stuff (chromosomes, suicide stats, kike science etc) and basically I'm expected to refute and justify a ton of stuff before they'll consider my question or concern.

Just keep standing your ground. State the positives such as, who you are shouldn't matter. You share their ideals and Hitler was more inclusive than they are lead to believe. Such as his Indian and African regiments, his letter of congratulations to Jesse Owens and appreciation of Hindu culture.

I think alot of Nat-Soc's on /pol/ actually LARPers, who buy into the Nazi Boogeyman and get off on it. That Hitler really was a one man gas machine who wanted to exterminate anyone without blonde hair and blue eyes. Which of course is a historical fallacy.

>It just bugs me, being a normal person who dindu nuffin, that they claim should be hunted down and killed. But Marxists will accept me, but I don't want their destructive ideology.

Fortunately /pol/ won't be hunting down and killing anything. They are too easily baited into "Divide and Conquer", especially against other minority members (like Asians) who actually share their beliefs. I think /pol/ lashes out because our western civilization is basically finished. It will either have to evolve, fight back or basically be absorbed into something else.

Marxists are scum. You can see how they operate. "We'll support you now, but you have to support us later." It's a concept that is doomed to fail. Individualism always triumphs over pluralism. You can just see how doomed it is when feminists stick up for Islam, and expect muslims to back them up later in return.

United in victim-hood.

I personally have no problem with the Shia and Alawite minority members of Islam, however larger elements clearly are contrary to our values.

>Yes. My boss in fast food would make smart remarks all the time. I was shoved out of that job. It was a nightmare, because I was literally a paycheck or two away from being homeless. Meanwhile stress was being piled on. I was actually really respected at work until I started transitioning. I couldn't just get any job because my IDs were still male (I couldn't afford filing costs).

That's pretty harsh. I'm no fan of affirmative action, however clearly you doing your job properly should ensure you keep it. I hope all is well.

>I did have problems with two nogs, one kept slapping my butt and the other kept rubbing his crotch on me.

I have to admit, I'm starting to develop a genuine hatred for Africans. Even here in Australia they are being shipped in, and crimes sky rocket in the areas. Thankfully the police don't cop shit here (they've always had their hands full with the Aboriginal half castes) so they aren't afraid to dish it out.

>Another uncomfortable experience, two girls literally held me down in a corner and felt up my boobs.

Thats kinda hot. :P

>>9011

I'm not familiar with all the terms, but androgynous means both sexes or neither? Perhaps one of you can explain to be the different levels of transexualism? At this point I assumed it was just one thing.

>>9017

>There wouldn't have to be such laws. The reason why Germany had all these invasive and scary organisations is because they were trying to excise their rat problem. They did not plan to continue all operations after they won the war, they did what they thought was necessary to regain their land and people. All the things that the NSDAP did wouldn't apply to every country, because each country has their own problems and customs.

I suppose, they did have those measures to prevent allied and communist spies. However those who gain such power, rarely give it up. Still I like to think of what our world might be like today had Germany won WW2. As an Australian, there'd probably be more Japanese here as opposed to Chinese. Of course anime might not have been invented, so thats kind of depressing.

I think George Lincoln Rockwell was more extreme against the homosexual community back then, because he was trying to appeal to the white Christians of the day. He admits his brand of National Socialism was different to Germany's, an Americanized version. I've got his book around here somewhere and a copy of the playboy magazine that he has an interview in. I posted it on /pol/ probably about a month ago.

You're Male or Female based on your genitalia, any feminization is but a character trait and a personal kink of mine.

>>9026

>androgynous

That means appearing male and female, or ambiguous gender. They would get confused for both.

You'll open up a can of worms at most places asking what the different trans- suffixes mean. IMO, basically transgender is mental and transsexual is physical. Gender being a mental/presentation thing (how one feels, acts), and sex being the body (modifying it through hormones and surgery with intention to fully become the opposite sex). So a transsexual who has HRT and SRS is also transgender, but a trap or futa is only transgender. But in recent times the terms have been blurred, with all these special new genders like non-binary, queer, transmasculine, and so on. I don't know what the current definition of transsexual means to them. My feeling is that transsexual is the new shemale, and has a salacious connotation because it has "sex" in it. Inorite? There's also a rift between MtFs who wish to live as normal straight women as much as possible, vs the anything-goes, all genders are real camp. I grew up with straight culture, I don't like LGBT stuff or experimental sexualities, so I don't accept them as legitimate; which makes me a cunt and a traitor to many trans people. Just my opinion. I think I posted a link to plebbit earlier in which I discuss the anti-tradition, cult mentality of trannydom.

>>9031

>You're Male or Female based on your genitalia

It's actually much more physiologically-complex than that but essentially yes, that is a very solid criterion. Not to split hairs or justify anything, just saiyan.

>>8963

1. Not really, but I'm something that men find attractive. That's my goal because I'm interested in men. Girls don't have dicks, silly.

2. I got no idea about this but you know how the Pashtun are with their chai boys.

3. There's a lot of angry Muslims and a lot of angry white people. Something's gotta snap. That said, I always thought that fascists were a bit gayer than other movements deep down… so it'll either be okay for me, or if you repress it, real bad.

4. Hon, most gay bottoms wants to snag a straight guy and be the "girl", even if they don't look dress up as one.

5. Men only. Beefy ones.

6. Uh… I'd never take them myself, but I think you should wait till the very onset of puberty. Better safe than suicide later.

7. Strong leader with a vision for his electorate, not just maintenance of a status quo. Any side. Walls with Mexico a plus.

>>9053

(body was too long, pic related here >>9057 applies to this post.

>This is another thing about my theory. There are, ofc, assholes and gatekeepers who are white. These "oppressed" whites only have experiences with other whites, and because of lack of experience and glamourisation of non-whites, they think there's a chance they may be treated better.

I think you are spot on there. Self loathing whites, may come from being bullied by their peers maybe in high school or early, which is why they seem to think that other victims are their "comrades in arms."

>Spousal and child abuse among darker races is horrendous.

Aboriginals are notorious for abusing their children, its actually an epidemic. Our former PM Tony Abbott closed down their indigenous communities and wanted to move them into cities due to the amount of child abuse going on, but for some reason the idiot lefties barked like mad dogs.

>I can't say I am completely opposed to being able to fire people for no reason, but we have no job security like there used to exist and the job market sucks. Offshoring, H1B visa exploitaton, uni is very risky (plus the rise of unpaid internships), infrastructure isn't maintained properly, etc. I could go on. Things are just bad, not only short-term but into the forseeable future.

That's a shame, do you think Donald Trump will change things if he gets in? Or it will just be an extension of the same old nightmare? We have some protections here in Australia. I think large corps can't fire at will, only businesses with less than 60 people on the books. But there are some protections.

>You'll open up a can of worms at most places asking what the different trans- suffixes mean. IMO, basically transgender is mental and transsexual is physical. Gender being a mental/presentation thing (how one feels, acts), and sex being the body (modifying it through hormones and surgery with intention to fully become the opposite sex). So a transsexual who has HRT and SRS is also transgender, but a trap or futa is only transgender. But in recent times the terms have been blurred, with all these special new genders like non-binary, queer, transmasculine, and so on. I don't know what the current definition of transsexual means to them. My feeling is that transsexual is the new shemale, and has a salacious connotation because it has "sex" in it.

I'm afraid I'm just more confused now than when I started. I assumed transgenders/transexuals/traps/shemales was a universal thing. I guess your right about the blurred lines, I've got no fucking clue anymore. But still it's nice to learn and understand new things.

>I think I posted a link to plebbit earlier in which I discuss the anti-tradition, cult mentality of trannydom.

I read the conversation, that Mason 1984 sounded like a tool. Yet most of the other users seemed to agree with you and jump in. So at least you know what you are talking about. Any individual who is red-pilled on social issues is fine in my books. If there ever is a 4th Reich I'll try and convince /pol/ not to gas you :P

>>9059

>Fat guys?

Beefy like beefcake, idiot. I like a little muscle.

>>9059

whoops early post

>Some girls now do have dicks

*look like they have dicks.

>Can you elaborate more on this please?

Röhm? Jack Donovan? The idealization of the male form and masculinity? If your movement isn't a bunch of family men with wives and kids already it'll turn gay pretty quick.

Add that to the fact that your specific flavour of fascism contains a fair number of people who, well, probably also browse /cuteboys/.

>Suicide rates posted on /pol/

A lot of it IMO is social isolation and unrealistic expectations. Gay people can feel pretty isolated in high school, especially if they're in the closet:

>dating pool is reduced to 6-8% that of straight people

>dating pool mixed in among people who might want to beat you up if you so much as gazed at them longingly

>constantly hiding all romantic/sexual aspects of your personality from everyone

>always worrying that people will see you as some kind of "other" or "sideshow"

Some trans youth experience this but worse, and think that things will improve right after their transition. But you can't solve the problems I listed with HRT - they require self-confidence and inner strength. Even the transition process is long, slow, and requires mental fortitude. And after going through such a rough youth, this inner strength can be shattered in trans people.

>Vote Trump 2016

I know, you hoon

>>9054

Your descriptions are really good. I've been meaning to do some type of glossary. Some of the definitions are all over the place depending on who is speaking, but it seems like we can focus on a few core points to make discussion more intelligible.

Cross-Dressers People cross-dress for different reasons, like testing the waters or doing it for laughs or performance, but usually the term refers to men for whom this is a fetish. They get turned on by looking like women, or role-playing as women solely in a sexual context. Some gay guys also cross-dress without attempting to look like women in the slightest, as can be seen in gay pride parades.

Crossplay Cross-dressing and cosplay.

Drag Queens A type of campy performance art where people dress up in elaborate costumes and exaggerate a number of female mannerisms, often emulating old movie actresses and music performers.

Genderfluid People who bounce back and forth between genders, or mix up different gender attributes. This label is probably doomed, because almost everyone who calls themselves genderfluid is a complete loser. Think Tumblr, Vine, and SJWs.

Transgenders A fairly broad umbrella term for anyone who feels they are a different gender from their natal sex, it can also be used more specifically to refer to trans who do not want SRS, or Sexual Reassignment Surgery. Which brings us to

Transsexuals This was the main term not too long ago, but now it's used much less. It's still a really useful term when applied to transgenders who want SRS. Transsexuals usually experience some measure of of gender dysphoria, where they are uncomfortable to very uncomfortable with their genitalia and sometimes other sexual attributes.

Traps Looks like a natal female, but is cute, passable, and has a penis.

Shemale Solely a term for pornstars at this point.

>>9025

>Military work, a BS in physics and a job for a resource based company. You're probably more successful than half the people on this site. It's stories like yours that probably should be shared as opposed to the stories shared by Wu & Co. As opposed to focusing on the drama and oppression, rather share your story of success, to prove that the trans community is productive and if anything respectable citizens.

Well thank you for your kind words.

My problem with Wu is more or less my problem with large swaths of the transsexual community.

You see, Feminism (and identity politics in general) is a race to the bottom. It comes off as championing those who claim to be the most oppressed and down-trodden. It's depressing. It's a concept I reject outright. I didn't transition to whine about how much it sucks to transition.

That and I think Feminism only uses transwomen and transmen as stepping stools to further their own cisgendered agenda.

However it happened, the GLBT community is infested with this ideology which is why I don't take part any longer. I'm a transsexual, but I'm not welcomed as I have the wrong opinions. That's okay though, I'm surrounded by wonderful people and the single most amazing man in the world, so fuck 'em.

>>9065

>Beefy like beefcake, idiot. I like a little muscle.

I was being cheeky.

>A lot of it IMO is social isolation and unrealistic expectations. Gay people can feel pretty isolated in high school, especially if they're in the closet:

Your summary seems to cover what I was assuming.

>Vote Trump 2016

>I know, you hoon

And knowing is half the battle.

>>9068

That post actually helps abit, see I always thought trans was a universal thing. That helps explain it abit better. So the "Gender Fluids" (Tumblr's, SJWs) could be identified as the main trouble makers.

Typical cultural vampires.

>That and I think Feminism only uses transwomen and transmen as stepping stools to further their own cisgendered agenda.

Typical of communism, uniting as many oppressed groups together to form a louder voice. "We support you, now you have to support us."

Its built on sand, probably is closer to eating itself than ever before now.

>>9053

I don't have a plebbit account, but if I made one could we communicate through it? I assure you my intentions are purely academical (I'm not interested in cam footage or anything like that) I'd like to speak to you more on your theories and knowledge on Fascism and Golden Dawn (it's not just a Greek right Wing party)?

I have to admit, I have alot of IRL friends however none of them are interested in this sort of thing. It would be good to have a /pol/ack to talk to about this stuff, without relying on random anonymous posts. Plus if /pol/ gets to overbearing we could talk about it.

Wanna be m80s, m8? (We call girls mate too, so thats not a dig at you.)

>>9083

>That post actually helps abit, see I always thought trans was a universal thing. That helps explain it abit better. So the "Gender Fluids" (Tumblr's, SJWs) could be identified as the main trouble makers.

They can use a few different names like genderqueer as well. Many Tumblr types call themselves transgender, but there are a lot of cool transgenders and that is more a blanket term anyway.

The Vine Marathon videos do a good job of showcasing these types of people. They are basically losers looking for an identity and screaming for attention.

>>9059

>suicide rates

I dunno about this decade or who is now being counted as trans(sexual), but historically most transitioners have started in their late 40s-50s. You can't make up for the lost years or youth (they "missed the boat"), and they often destroy all the friends, family, and career they've built over the course of their life. Their final decrepit decades as an old single woman will be starkly impoverished compared to the rest of their life and how it would have gone if they didn't transition.

This does nor mean that they are not really transsexual; but rather their life went to shit, usually unexpectedly because no one told them the damage to expect. On top of how difficult transitioning is both emotionally and socially, the stresses are enough to make suicide preferable to continuing the loss of stature and relationships. But fucking trannies, they will push anyone who "feels feminine sometimes and jerks off in a skirt and heels" to do this shit even though they'll never pass, lose everything, and/or it's really not for them. Perhaps to know there's someone as miserable and fucked as they.

Sometimes you need to cut your losses short, even if you still hurt.

>>9066

>>9057

>There's few African communities scattered around (god knows why), however they are constantly in turf wars with the Aboriginals

That is fucking hilarious! I'm imagining it like the greentext tard stories.

Good on you guys for keeping the "refugees" out of your mainland, though. It's unfortunate that abos were classed as human in the 1960s or thereabout, and was prior illegal to have sex with them (bestiality). I really don't understand how any white person would want to have sex with them, they are way too genetically-distant and different in appearance from us. Jews? In USA the NAACP was founded by kikes, as well as the whole "melting pot" spiel.

I have also read about your "We're Sorry" day, which looks like a massive cuckfest and makes me sick to see all those European peoples bowing before those subhumans in penitence for shit they didn't do, isn't true, and didn't matter. (We have the same problem in USA about past jew-run slavery.) And "The Stolen Generation," of which the popular narrative casts it as those ebil hwhite men broke up all those poor abo families; the kids were taken away because of something very normal among abos: violent and sexual abuse of their offspring…because those ablets were considered human and had to be given the same protections under Australian law. I really wish people abroad knew how disgusting abos are, instead zero mention is given in mainstream sources.

IMO rights require responsibility, and the black races cannot as a group meet those responsibilities. I heard that some stores have refrigerated antifreeze and/or petrol for those savages.

I came from a city that was 90% white, and ended up in one that's I think 70% white, with 20% Mexican't and 7% negro. Huge difference in crime rates, and the city was forcibly "integrated" (Section 8, a subsidised housing programme, was spread throughout the city) instead of all the trash concentrated in one area.

K ima stop rambling :)

>neanderthals vs europoids. Golden Dawn

I will be fully honest upfront and admit that I have not done proper intensive research of vetting all sources on much of this. I am not a trained historian, either. I much more comfortable with scientific information because I have a fair amount of training in it, specifically biology. Even then, and I hate this, arguments often devolve into source wars, and it's possible to find sources for both sides of an argument. For instance, on the distribution of neanderthal genes in extant hominids, an early and very popularised study was presented to the public as "all [humans] have 1-3% neanderthal genes." Their intent was to make people believe that we all have neander in us, when in fact it is most highly concentrated in the Caucasus and West Asian regions; some hominid populations have zero neander admixture. In my interpretation from other studies, some in that area have up to 70% neander makeup (guess who?).

Ancient sources make many references to diabolical fuckers with large hooked noses who rub their hands and are merchants (I'm not even joking). The Golden Dawn relates to "pre-history" mythologies of hook-nosed, beady-eyed rapists and murders from the East who attacked in the night, the Golden Dawn being the time when European man is no longer so vulnerable, and sets out to fight off the neanderkikes. I do not at all believe that neanders were peaceful, inquisitive people as I have recently seen being pushed, and consider that disinfo. I also don't know much about the Golden Dawn Greek party, but they seem like some good men.

(contd)

>>9093 (contd)

Considering that ancient European traditions have been systematically destroyed thanks mostly to kikestianity (a semitic religion), information is hard to come by. You can still find references from North Africa et al about light-skinned, light-haired, noble, intelligent, hardy, and kind people from the cold, dry northern latitudes. The same people who speak ill of the merchant and niggers. Supposedly some of the libraries that have been destroyed also destroyed information about a history before history, and this is where we get into the Aryans. The Aryans is not a "Nazi" (a slur) racist, megalomaniacal conspiracy about the untermensch. I hear whispers about a sea-faring, European people who spread their tech all over the world. We see sun wheels and other symbols and architecture in West and East Europe, Persia, India, and the Americas (with red-haired, light-skinned giants who are industrious and kind, unlike "native americans" from East Asia; see Kennewick man's skeleton). Is this why "mysteriously" we have pyramids throughout the world? We now see a denigration of European men and their accomplishments, and we have always seen it. Erasing someone's history is a powerful tool.

About the jews, they have been called the Hebron (proto Hebrew), and were outlaws. They were not allowed to reside within cities because of their criminality, and thus camped outside and would raid on occasion. A hive of scum and villainy. It's speculated that judaism is a religion developed by and for psychopath criminals justifying and encouraging their behaviour. (Furthermore, christianity seems a slave's religion, invented by kikes and forced into Europe. It is NOT European in character at all.) See, jews really have been kicked out of every place they've resided since the beginning. It's in their genes to be shit people. Also, they have nigger blood in them kek. Through selective breeding they became more light-skinned and intelligent than their Arab cousins.

Did you know vampires of lore are most likely based off the kikes?

>Abbott closed down their indigenous communities and wanted to move them into cities due to the amount of child abuse going on, but for some reason the idiot lefties barked like mad dogs

Good. Keep those fuckers away from your women and children.

>do you think Donald Trump will change things if he gets in

Honestly I stopped paying attention to American politics after Obama got elected. Why did a 3yr senator who rarely voted on legislation and has no notable management experience get elected? From what I've read, if Trump does what he says then I would be pleased enough. Will he? I don't know, and I doubt it, given the history of the presidency since JFK. No matter Dem or Rep, they have not fixed this country and only worsened it.

>If there ever is a 4th Reich I'll try and convince /pol/ not to gas you :P

Danke. The Fourth Reich can't come soon enough.

>>9083

It's extremely rare I leddit, I usually make a new account when I do. You can email me, though. See the email field. I definitely empathise with not having anyone to talk to about our Lord and Saviour Adolf Hitler, though.

Is it considered normal or acceptable for women to call men or women "mate"? Always wondered that.

>>9066

>dating pool mixed in among people who might want to beat you up if you so much as gazed at them longingly

This is extremely rare among Europeans, to actually murder a transwoman because they exist as such. They might get forcibly shoved out the flat and spit on, though. Most all of the trans murder stats are in third-world countries, and usually because the transwoman declined to mention her status (pre-op) until the pants came off; that's disrespectful on her part. That doesn't mean they deserve murder, but they didn't help their situation. Sometimes the victim really was "asking for it." Also, sauce on 6-8%? IME a lot of straight guys are totally fine with FWB, but absolutely will not date. Oftentimes you must be kept a secret, even if you can pass on all counts. Maybe I'm picky but I am not interested in 99% of guys who wish to date me. They're usually fat, Irish, and/or into anime.

I reall don't know much about FtMs. I had so much to learn and grapple with in my own transition, and once I was past that I had zero interest in my "brothers and sisters and [snowflakes]." I don't know what problems FtMs face beyond the fight for recognition of masculinity (which doesn't help, to be short and coded in feminine ways) and the fact they have no satisfactory surgery for a penis, and the one they do have is expensive as fuck. I do feel sorry for them on that, but they still retain their "female privilege" and people care much less about a dyke than a man in a dress. For better or worse, that's another big cultural discussion.

>>9088

>The Vine Marathon videos do a good job of showcasing these types of people. They are basically losers looking for an identity and screaming for attention.

The tumblr crowd proves itself to be toxic to everything it touches.

>>9091

>I dunno about this decade or who is now being counted as trans(sexual), but historically most transitioners have started in their late 40s-50s. You can't make up for the lost years or youth (they "missed the boat"), and they often destroy all the friends, family, and career they've built over the course of their life. Their final decrepit decades as an old single woman will be starkly impoverished compared to the rest of their life and how it would have gone if they didn't transition.

That actually does sound pretty rough. I suppose I see why they push to transition young, as later in life it's harder to do effectively.

>>9093

>That is fucking hilarious! I'm imagining it like the greentext tard stories.

It truly does shatter the leftists dream utopia. Its mostly the Sudanese and Aboriginals who go to war for the drug business.

Then there is secular clashes as well. For example a bunch of African muslims turned up to a Pacific Islander (think Jango Fett from Star Wars - Maori's) parties in Sydney.

Pacific Islanders are mostly christian, due to the spread of missionaries so African muslims and them don't get along.

Some african muslim was thrown out of the party for being a grub, then he turned around and ran some Pacific Islander kid over in his car.

The Pacific Islanders and Africans are now involved in violence against each other (my money's on the Maori's) but a few Islander Churchs have been burned down.

Its fucking piss funny to hear that most blacks all can't stand each other either. The Maori's complained to the local leftists they were causing the problem by trying to integrate the Africans into their community.

I bet the white leftists were left dumbshocked.

>I heard that some stores have refrigerated antifreeze and/or petrol for those savages.

They love their petrol, its actually an epidemic. They also have a habit of sleeping on warm tar roads and getting hit by cars (vid related.)

There was a public service announcement, warning Aboriginals not to do it and drivers to be aware.

Kinda funny, in a harsh kinda way.

>some in that area have up to 70% neander makeup (guess who?).

Jews have neander makeup?

>We see sun wheels and other symbols and architecture in West and East Europe, Persia, India, and the Americas (with red-haired, light-skinned giants who are industrious and kind, unlike "native americans" from East Asia; see Kennewick man's skeleton).

I've seen that Pharoahs and some native American Indians actually had red hair, which means they must have been European. It's certainly interesting.

>Is it considered normal or acceptable for women to call men or women "mate"? Always wondered that.

It varies, my sister used to not like being called mate by others. However women from the country call men mate, and vice versa. It's a universal term for companion or friend now, though its quickly getting replaced by "cunt."

The Aussie meme about calling strangers "mate" and your best friends "cunt" isn't a lie.

It varies though, still it's acceptable for anyone and everyone to call each other mate. Some women don't appreciate it though.

>>8963

1. Yes; we wholeheartedly feel woman on the inside.

2. No idea

3. I'm a /pol/ trap; I'm probably just about as racist and rightwing as they come; I'm just Transgender, is all.

4. I like women.. It would probably ruin any chance of getting a girlfriend after a successful transition, because I'm bad with women already. It's not about love, it's about identity. It's like a burden of feeling guilty all the time, guilty that you're lying to people, telling them that you're male, when you feel female on the inside.

5. Women only; I do fap to shemale porn and guys sometime, but it's like a penis fetish that a lot of straight men have.

6. Therapy. As long as the child shows a full female identity in therapy, then it's not an issue of consent, just as it's not an issue of consent when the child has cancer. In that case, should it be up to the child to prevent cancer? No; it's stupid to think so. Likewise, it's a medical professional's opinion, and the opinion of the parent. But yes, it is based on what the transgender child wants, as well, because gender identity isn't as clearcut as cancer.

7. I identify as a National socialist; In reality, I'm not really all that racist; but I think many of our problems is caused by a focus on economic systems revolving around money. I tried arguing with my father about oil; he said that the value is determined by the market, and it's senseless to flood the market with even more oil. My opinion on things like that, is that if we had more oil, regardless of whether there was an economic incentive, there'd be relatively more fuel for cars, which would make it cheaper. Take planned obsolecense for example; whole products are DESIGNED to be broken; like iphones, lightbulbs, etc; they could make them more durable, but then they'd lose out on money.

What we need is not market control of certain things; certain things need to have a higher form of control so it would benefit EVERYONE. It's a mixture of capitalism and socialism.

>>9132

What's the difference between Abo and Maori? My understanding is that the Australian retards came over on a land bridge when the ocean levels were lower, but many Pacific Islanders were seafaring and paddled/sailed to their current homes. I just don't know the distinction between Abo, Pacific Islander, Maori, Papua niggers, etc. Are they all Abo or closely related?

I'm not surprised they don't get along. Hell, in USA, black people don't even like black people. No one does. It's funny, because Mexicans are racist as fuck against blacks and don't hide it a bit.

Do they literally drink or just huff petrol? I suppose it's technically an alcohol. Drinking alcohol (ethanol) is a 2-carbon chain, and octanol (petrol/gasoline/benzin) is 8 carbons. Dunno the pharmacokinetics/dynamics of it, though. Neat stuff. Still….jesus, they're fucking retards. Do you think they'd ever be declassified from human status? Surely all but a few people recognise they have no place in civilisation, and they can never be helped with handouts.

And yes, jews ("real" jews, not mixed with Euro blood) have significant Neanderthal DNA. Part of that is the sloped forehead, which means they have less-developed forebrains. They can def math, though. But empathy? Lol. Maybe that's why they're historically merchants: they can't care if they're screwing over someone, and are thus not impeded by feelings from chasing shekels.

I do like the idea of Nationalism just not Socialism. I think industry is best left out of the hands of government. Profit is a huge motivator for innovation.

With a Nationalist Republican Party or something of the sort would be fantastic. Small, limited government who mostly just enforced trade tariffs and prevented foreign entities from purchasing land or raw materials. Finally prevented illegal immigration and told refugees to go fuck themselves. And finally abolished national bank privatization and required gold-standard.

My problem with National Socialism is it tries to enforce morality via legislation which usually doesn't end up working out well. Humans are naturally inclined to liberty and we see this as a result. Out of something like 200 countries over 180 of them are based in the principles of Liberty. Freedom of speech, expression, press, religion, etc.

Capitalism is the most egalitarian economic system as it is utilitarian where the default is each focusing on their own happiness and well-being. Where each person is a pod with different wants and desires. One could look at each individual in a capitalist system as a processor in a huge computer.

Communism fails in this regard as it wants to treat people as transistors rather than processors and filters all activities to the main CPU (government) assuming all people's wants, needs, and desires are either the same or irrelevant. You could have the 100 smartest people run a government, the problem is the combined intellect of the 100 million is always going to be better. Capitalism utilizes this fact while Communism (and fascism in the same regard) either doesn't utilize or outright ignores this glaring fact.

Marxists are almost universally homophobic in that they see homosexuality as a problem as it won't create more people to help industry and agriculture. Just to make an example of why Communism has inherent problems of egalitarianism.

Anyway yeah, I'm done pontificating. Just thought I'd throw my hat in this rather complex conversation.

>>9143

>What's the difference between Abo and Maori? My understanding is that the Australian retards came over on a land bridge when the ocean levels were lower, but many Pacific Islanders were seafaring and paddled/sailed to their current homes. I just don't know the distinction between Abo, Pacific Islander, Maori, Papua niggers, etc. Are they all Abo or closely related?

Tbh I'm not even positive. It's theorised that Aboriginals are basically Papuans who did cross land bridges into Australia about 40-60,000 years ago.

Maori's are normally New Zealand natives, whom I think are closely related to Samoans, Fijians, Tahtians, Polynesian's etc.

Then theres individual island people like the Nauran's and Torres Straight Islanders (who are classified as Aboriginals as well.)

If your into weird stuff, theres a counter Atlantis theory about an island of black magicians called Lemuria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuria_(continent)

Tamil and Dravidians are supposed to share cultures with Papuans and Aboriginals, however I haven't researched it fully since first hearing about it.

(Pic related is Aboriginals and Maori's)

Their customs are quite different. For example the Aboriginals were basically conquered without any major resistance, where as the Maori's were much more aggressive and did surprisingly well against the British settlers in the beginning.

>Do they literally drink or just huff petrol?

They drink methylated spirits, and huff petrol. Poor buggers only live on average to about 30-40 years too. They absolutely destroy themselves, similar to the Canadian Indians.

>And yes, jews ("real" jews, not mixed with Euro blood) have significant Neanderthal DNA.

I would love to get some sources on this, I've seen these theories thrown around on /pol/ a fair bit too. It's hard to start the search for information.

>>9145

>Anyway yeah, I'm done pontificating. Just thought I'd throw my hat in this rather complex conversation.

I'm glad you did, those are all acceptable views. I think /pol/s love of National Socialism is rooted in the fact it took a destroyed nation and made it great again within a few short years.

Not to mention the false gas stories.

>Marxists are almost universally homophobic in that they see homosexuality as a problem as it won't create more people to help industry and agriculture. Just to make an example of why Communism has inherent problems of egalitarianism.

I've heard it said that Communist Russia was actually very intolerant of homosexuality and China is also too, to an extent.

Its a wierd thing to see that Marxists in America would approach the LGBT crowd, or vice versa given this complex history.

Worrying trends everywhere.

>>9596

>the medications killed my gut bacteria and now i have to avoid certain foods for life.

I don't know your budget, but look into probiotics like this.

http://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Primal-Defense-Capsules/dp/B000GWG8FS/

Also, prebiotics like oat bran.

>>9617

Nha its ok, i buy natural yogurth and it has helped a lot, the stuff to avoid are mostly gluten-related and now im more healty.

>>9645

Damn i didnt knew, such disapointment, i also have like 10 similar from the same site, i guess they are shoped too?

http://kawaiifartgiver.tumblr.com/post/126082498188/transsexualnudists-transsexual-nudist

>>9723

I checked them pictures with tineye - they are all fake!

>feel legitimately ashamed of being into transgirls or traps on account of most of them being degenerate, vain fucktards whose understanding of femininity are the physical and sexual traits of objects

>see this thread

>feel a little better

>>9094

Ftm here, but one way the privilege thing might level out is the fact that us not having good bottom surgery means that if we're found out or don't pass, some nigger might attempt to rape us, in the hole that our brains insist should not even be there. Hopefully you can imagine how extra horrifying that would be. Like having someone tie you down and shove a dick up your urethra instead. Body horror.

sage for not filling out the survey I am leaning toward natsoc more and more though