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We now have a Rockstar Social Club crew. We also have a Steam group.

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 No.9783[Reply]

Use this thread to tell me about how I'm doing with regards to moderating the board. If there's something you want me to do, or you disapprove of an action I've taken, post here about it.
This thread can also be used as a general "talk to the moderator" thread.

The first thing I want to ask you guys is, do you want to know who I am? Because I'm pretty sure you guys don't know who I am, and I'm not sure if you guys want to know, now that I'm the only moderator here.
Keep in mind that once you know who I am, you can' forget, or otherwise "unremember" it. So think carefully before you answer "yes".
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 No.23718

gnightg /tttgg/

drank too fast




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 No.9730[Reply]

It's become apparent to me that I'm not able to separate my personal feelings and discomfort towards certain topics and be a competent moderator. I'm leaving now, I hope the other mod does a better job than I was able to. I'm sorry if anyone felt like I had split the community apart, that was never my intention. I made this board when people were threatening to leave /ttgg/ forever because of NFA, and I thought if I made somewhere people felt more comfortable then nobody would have to leave. I don't think we can ever go back to how we were when season 2 of twdg first started, and regardless of my intentions and hopes this community is splintered. I never meant to cause any trouble or frustration. I hope eventually either everyone is united on one board, or at least is able to get along. I have trouble articulating so I hope you are all able to understand my regret and guilt. I hope none of you hold any ill-will towards me, I really do love /ttgg/ and I don't think I could have enjoyed the games TellTale put out this much without you all.
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 No.12567

>>12554
Wrong thread, bud.



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 No.23471[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You're a dick Edition

Previous Thread: >>23156

Previously on Telltale Games General…

>Anon seriously tries to argue that Arvo shot Clem accidentally

>Anons discuss if the endings would be better if it was a choice of stay with Kenny/Jane or leave with Mike/Bonnie/Arvo

>Anons discuss if Clem would be an easy girl

>Anons discuss if Clem would be looting in the Baltimore riots

>Anons miss Lee; would sacrifice the season 2 cast to bring him back

>Arguments about Kenny; Jane's morality or lack thereof

>Anons discuss what it takes to get Kenny to come with you automatically in S1E4

>Anon wonders how "This choice is blank!" happens

>Anons discuss what alcoholic beverage Clem would like

>Depressionanon asks if he bothers us

>Anon wants to make Clewd…

>Anons say how long they've been on /ttgg/

>Anons watch Iron Man 3

>Anons discuss their talent in creating OC

>Anon needs help making the new thread

>Anons continue to prove their love for Clementine

Things to discuss… New questions are marked by an asterisk

>Do you think GOT has gotten better with each episode?

>What other Borderlands characters do you expect to see in future episodes of TFTB?

>Why did you submit to Gryff?

>What do you think is at the North Grove?

>Will we see Felix again if you let him live?

>When are we finally gonna get some fuckin' nudity in GOT?!

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 No.23713

>>23712

Are you drinking right now? Because I can barely decipher that second sentence.


 No.23714

>>23713

Yes sorry I was trying to type fast ang gta lags my computer. Was trying to say that TV pilot episodes are worse than the rest.


 No.23715

>>23709

I should play that episode again because not only am I overdue for a second playthrough and a quick refresh of the events, I'm still trying to figure out certain details why I didn't enjoy it that much. I will say some of my biggest problems were probably the way certain characters and their relationships were handled (Vasquez, August, Fiona and Sasha) and the bizarre plotting and pacing. Neither of Fiona's and Sasha's development went anywhere this episode and Fiona continues to feel too enigmatic and half-baked as a main character compared to Rhys. Vasquez suddenly changing from Dick Dastardly to "sympathetic" villain felt pointless and certain actions of his don't make sense to me. I have no idea why August's character is still in this story other than to act as a poor Vasquez-equivalent to Fiona despite having very little connection to her other than she scammed him once. I also came out of this episode liking Rhys's character less and I'm still not sure why. I guess this isn't really going into detail but like I said I feel like I need to replay the episode to get a better idea why I didn't like it.


 No.23716

>>23715

When/where did Vasquez turn into a "sympathetic villain"?


 No.23717

>>23716

"Sympathetic" likely isn't the right word (hence the quotes) but near the end in the hallway Vasquez tries to give Rhys a pep talk about he isn't that different from him and how he's tried to be a father/mentor to him and and I just didn't buy it. Not what Vasquez said but that he was genuinely trying to connect with Rhys. It felt out of nowhere considering how I thought I understood his character. I couldn't really grasp what the writers were trying to do with him this episode. I'll give that I'm likely not remembering certain details correctly since I only played it when it came out.




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 No.23156[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The curse of the blank choices Edition

Previous Thread: >>22854

Previously on Telltale Games General…

>Anons discuss how Lee and Carley felt about eachother

>Anons discuss what movies to watch and when

>GTA Clem's pajamas

>Anon feels like he'll never play S2 again, some unused content discussion is brought up

>Food discussion

>Lewdposting about taking Clem to the beach…

>Continued lewdposting…

>Anon feels like he doesn't belong here anymore

>Anons discuss Clementine's sexuality

>Clementine takes a shower

>Clem's son dies in Crusader Kings 2

>More talk about food; Blue Bell ice cream recalled

>Anons discuss TFTB; How season 2 has no replayability

>Anons discuss which TT husbando has the hairiest butt

>Anons watch X-Men (the 2000 film)

>Anon and DJ posting about Texas and food

>Anon talks about the GOT mod for Warband

>Anon wonders if original characters in GOT are modeled after real people

>Anons continue to prove their love for Clementine

Things to discuss… New questions are marked by an asterisk

>Do you think GOT has gotten better with each episode?

>What other Borderlands characters do you expect to see in future episodes of TFTB?

>Why did you submit to Gryff?

>What do you think is at the North Grove?

>Will we see Felix again if you let him live?

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 No.23467

>>23463

>>23466

An X-men thread would work pretty well, actually. Message me if you want a specific screencap from the movie or something.


 No.23468

>>23465

No.

>>23467

I'll message you when I'm ready. Gotta do something first.


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>>23468

how about her eyes then? can you at least give me that?


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>>23469

I wouldn't object to an eye thread in the future.


 No.23472

New thread >>23471




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 No.22854[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Marvel Telltale game confirmed! Edition

Previous Thread: >>22542

Previously on Telltale Games General…

>DJ didn't know that TWD S2 DLC was confirmed

>Anon makes a Clem hat emblem for GTA V and the /ttgg/ Rockstar social club crew

>Anons make Clementine in other games

>Anons discuss what soda Clem would like

>Dannyanon comes back

>Lillyfags actually think Lilly is coming back

>Anons discuss what superpower Clementine would have

>Modding/model discussion

>Clementine emblem made

>Clementine in Crusader Kings 2

>Anons discuss what candy Clem would like

>Anons discuss which TTG character they think would be most likely to post on /ttgg/

>Anons discuss which TT character would play a game about themselves/how they would react to peoples choices in TT games

>Marvel Telltale game announced!

>Anons try to encourage DJ to play TFTB

>Anons want to take Clementine to Las Vegas and play video games with her

>Anon wants to mod Clem's hair into Skyrim so he and do lewd things to her…

>Anon has a weird dream about Clem having repressed sexual feelings towards Lee

>Anon finds pre-release screenshots of TWD S2

>Anons wonder what telltale originally had in mind for TWD S2

>Anons discuss how Lee would react to discovering that Clem has repressed feelings for him

>Anons continue to prove their love for Clementine

Things to discuss… New questions are marked by an astPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.23152

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I wonder if the original characters in GOT are modeled after real people. Given how characters from the show are modeled after their actors and actresses.


 No.23153

>>23143

soon. when the time is right. there better be pubes on teen clem's sfm model when it comes out


 No.23154

>What do you think the Marvel Telltale game will be about?

I honestly have no idea and Telltale probably doesn't right now either. Maybe whatever property is popular in 216-17 assuming the Marvel bubble hasn't popped by then.


 No.23155

>>23154

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and the third Thor movie are set to be released in 2017, as well as a Spider-man movie, Wolverine movie, and a Fantastic Four movie. Out of all of these, I'd say Wolverine is the most natural choice for a Telltale game, as Wolverine can make good or bad decisions while still being a good guy, and without breaking his character. Kinda like Bigby.


 No.23157

New thread >>23156




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 No.22542[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

EPISODE 3 FUCKING WHEN Edition

Previous Thread: >>22131

Previously on Telltale Games General…

>/sp/ spams the board to steal a get again. Board owner bans them

>Anon regrets making the banana pic

>Anon feels like we're dying and running out of things to discuss

>Anon gives Clementine a coat that's too big for her

>Anon Baneposts too much

>Anons discuss how the cabin group escaped Carver's place the first time; who was George

>Lewd simulators

>Anons discuss dreams about Clementine

>Anons discuss what they would do if Clem tried to rape them

>Anons watch the GOT parody episodes of South Park

>Anons wonder what people do to pass the time in the zombie apocalypse

>Anons discuss if they'd get high with Clementine

>Anons discuss if a watch would be useful in the ZA

>TFTB Bingo for episode 3

>GTA V discussion

>Anon lists rehashed models

>Anons discuss their favorite and least favorite 400 Days stories

>Bonnie webms

>Anons continue to prove their love for Clementine

Things to discuss… New questions are marked by an asterisk

>Do you think GOT has gotten better with each episode?

>What other Borderlands characters do you expect to see in future episodes of TFTB?

>Why did you submit to Gryff?

>What do you think is at the North Grove?

>Will we see Felix again if Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.22850

>>22846

>I actually asked a similar question a few threads ago, wondering how different season 1 would've been, if Clem had a crush on Lee that she didn't hide from him.

Since Clem is only 8-9 in season one, I don't see her "crushing" on an adult, if at all, especially not like Mathilda did.

>>22849

I fell like since it's adult Clem that makes it even weirder since you can reason way an adolescent Clem's feelings as confusion over experiencing that sort of thing for the first time.

Adults usually understand what it is that attracts them to another adult. I think adult Clem would understand why she feels that way about Lee but would still be embarrassed and ashamed of it.


 No.22851

>>22850

Then what about teen Clem?


 No.22852

>>22851

That's kind of what I meant by adolescent. Misplaced feelings that eventually "go away" as she matures and better understands what she's going through.


 No.22853

>>22851

>>22852

I think that's it makes the question more interesting when it's adult Clem because in that case her feelings towards Lee aren't the result of an awkward phase and neither of them can just rely on time and maturity to make them "go away". In other words, they can't just ignore or dismiss the issue if they want to keep their relationship intact. What I wonder is how they'd deal with it.


 No.22855

New thread >>22854

Sorry it took so long.




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 No.22131[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

400 QTs Edition

Previous Thread: >>21830

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Mira is male?
>Anons watch the other 2 leaked GOT episodes
>Anons discuss Molly and why they don't like her
>Anon has another lucid dream about Clem
>Anons discuss the theory that Rhys is trans and is actually a siren
>Anons discuss TFTB husbandos
>DJ returns, explains his absence
>Anons discuss Clem having a crush on an adult
>Anons discuss the possibility of Clem being bisexual/having determinant sexuality
>Concept art for S2 Clem's design and other concepts posted
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 No.22538

>>22536

I think Kenny is a turd but people tend to get butthurt here when you say anything bad about Kenny


 No.22539

>>22538

Us Jane fans are few and far between, but even we aren't half as aggressively-defensive as Kennyfans.


 No.22540

>>22539

Yeah personally I think they're both two flawed individuals, but Jane is clearly the better option of the two as she's willing to leave behind an obvious liability (AJ) whereas Kenny's mental state is seemingly tethered to the survival of this extremely vulnerable thing.


 No.22541

>>22539

Am I the only one that doesn't identify as a Janefag or a Kennyfag? Sure, I might prefer one side, but I won't mindlessly defend it.


 No.22543

New thread >>22542

Sorry it took so long.




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 No.20302[Reply]

i had a dream last night, i was playing the greatest game of all time

>pretty much an american dating sim

 No.20303

What.



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 No.21830[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Girls of GOT Edition

Previous Thread: >>21521

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Anons miss Tae
>Anons reminisce over /ttgg/'s old memes
>Jane molesting Clementine
>SFManon clarifies that he doesn't actually have an interest in making Clem porn
>Deep discussion about lewd
>Discussion about reading between the lines in dialogue and implications
>Tae returns, answers our questions
>Another anon returns, gets informed of what he missed
>One anon doubts that douganon is female
>Anons post Clementines eyes. A lot
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 No.22127

>>22125
>I wonder how Clem would react to someone making racist assumptions about her.
Exactly like this >>22119

>SFManon is so lucky

There's nothing stopping you from doing both of the things you mentioned.

 No.22128

Remember Ramsay Snow from episode 1 of the GoT game?

I was playing the GoT mod for Warband and I knocked his father, Roose Bolton, off his horse and knocked him the fuck out
It felt like some kind of sweet justice.

 No.22129

>>22128
I hope you held him for ransom.

 No.22130

>>22129
Nah, slippery bastard escaped.
Besides, I'm in the Iron Islands army until I earn enough to start lording on my own, which is fun.

 No.22132

New Thread >>22131



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 No.21521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Retro Edition

Previous Thread: >>21217

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Anons talk about Clem's hair again
>Anons play The Organ Trail with TWD characters
>Depressionanon goes too far with his fantasies again
>Anons discuss the decision to kill Larry
>SFManon shows an interest in making Clem porn
>Anons discuss the possibility of an adult Clem
>Douganon replaying season 1 making all the edgy choices
>/ttgg/ finishes playing The Organ Trail
>Anons discuss what they think happened to Molly, Bonnie, and Mike
>Anons will be pissed if they can't kill Arvo in season 3
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 No.21826

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>4 weeks since episode 2 of TftB launched

 No.21827

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>>21826
No need to rush, anon.

 No.21828

>>21826
That means we only got another 4 weeks to wait right? Right?

 No.21829

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>>21828
I don't dare hope for less than that

 No.21831

New thread >>21830



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 No.21217[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Snow Waifu Edition

Previous Thread: >>20916

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Anons praise Clem's messy hair
>Anons watch Jackie Brown
>Anons discuss who they think AJ's dad is
>Anons love Carol
>Anons discuss if season 2 ruined Clementine's character
>DJ feels bad about not drawing anything for Easter
>Anons discuss Nate as an antagonist for season 3
>Benanon returns
>Anons discuss AJ
>DJ buys anything with the name Clementine on it
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 No.21517

>>21515
>>21516
Not what I did, what another artist did over at spoiler

 No.21518

>>21517
Jesus I'm typing too fast.

Over at paheal

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 No.21520

>>21518
The colors are really pretty

 No.21522

New Thread >>21521
Sorry it's a bit late.



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 No.20916[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

RP Edition

Previous Thread: >>20607

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Anons discuss how they'd interact with a 20 year old Clem
>Anons wonder what happened to NoLegal
>Discussion about Clementine being manipulative
>Telltale announces they worked out tricky bits in TWD writing
>Anon pranks /ttgg/ by claiming to have gotten season 2 files working in season 1 with "proof"
>Anons getting annoyed at how stupid TWD comics have become
>Anons discuss shipping, Lexi Porter, and bad fanart
>Anons discuss Clementine getting a love interest
>Anons discuss getting a wallpaper for a new phone
>Anon laments that there's no good lewd OC of adult Clem
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 No.21213

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>>21212
>Minecraft comic
It's more likely than you think.

 No.21214

>>21212
>>21213
Also, I had completely forgotten about Minecraft Story Mode. Thanks a lot.

 No.21215

>>21213
Next you'll be telling me there's a Minecraft Monopoly game.

 No.21216

>>21215
I'm surprised that there isn't a Minecraft Monopoly.
I did find lots of people who made Monopoly inside of Minecraft. Why someone would ever do that is beyond me.

 No.21218

New Thread >>21217



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 No.20607[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

April Fools Edition

Previous Thread: >>20272

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Anons discuss what Clementine would be like at 20 years old
>Anons discuss the season finale of TWD TV show
>Discussion about abandoning a baby to survive
>Anon lucid dreams about taking Clem skiing, is put at ease about Clewd
>Anons watch and discuss Léon: The Professional
>DJ gets lucky
>Morgan drinks your tears
>Ascii Clem makes an appearance
>Anons criticize the Bronnie's qt ranking list
>SFManon learns how to add an outline to characters in SFM
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 No.20912

>>20908
Because we care about you obviously. So whenever you're not around people are concerned about you. Sorry you're in pain, hope you get well soon.

>>20909
He's shitposting anon. Ignore him.

>>20911
>I was too cheap to pay for a taxi
Oh Mr. Crabs.

>she offered me to stay

I'm sure not wanting to pay for a taxi isn't the only reason you wanted to stay.

>Not sure how much I would've contributed anyways

You're the most fun here when you're drunk.

 No.20913

>>20908
>Why are anons upset when I don't show up?
In addition to what this anon said >>20912 I think it's because you and SFManon are some of those most visibly active members on ttgg so it's noticed when either of you haven't been active. People look forward to your posts. I hope you feel better soon.


>>20911
>he seems to check her pixiv about every month (judging from her feed), so don't expect a reply very soon.
Pixiv notifies you in your email when you've received a new PM..

 No.20914

>>20912
>isn't the only reason you wanted to stay
This was after the fact. I slept way earlier than I usually do, so that was pretty weird, too. The cuddling was nice, though.

>You're the most fun here when you're drunk.

Thanks, I guess? I figured I just came across as obnoxious more than anything.

 No.20915

>>20914
Just to clarify, I'm not saying you're fun only when you're drunk, nor am I saying you should get drunk more often.

 No.20917

New Thread >>20916



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 No.20272[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>dat season finale Edition

Game of Thrones episode 3 has been released, spoilers will be in this thread!

Previous Thread: >>19832

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>OP questions answered, some mention of the RP
>Anon plays episode 3 of TWAU Bloody Mary a qt
>Anons discuss playing the other Borderlands games
>DJ draws a sketch for a cute drawing of Clem
>/sp/ spams nearly a hundred posts to steal the 20k get
>Anon points out plot-holes in GOT
>Board owner gets sick, doesn't participate in discussion for a day
>The ClemenTimer is brought up
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>>20603
Yeah, no matter what happens with the TWDG series at this point, whether it bombs, gets a shit ending, or gets bled dry by Telltale refusing to let it end, at least we'll always have S1 as this great, self-contained story with great characters.

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>>20604
>Clem will never fall asleep on you

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>>20605
>Clem will never sleep with you

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>>20593
>I'll mention again here that I'd really like to see more focus on exactly how the military was able to get overwhelmed so easily.
This has always been one of the more unbelievable common aspects of the zombie genre to me. Not the military getting overwhelmed and defeated, but getting utterly annihilated and quickly so. If a few civilians can band together and survive for years why wouldn't a vestige of a well-trained, well-equipped military survive in some form like an enclave?

The only zombie stories I can think that don't immediately wipe out the armed forces as a significant entity are The Last of Us and World War Z. Then again I don't consume a lot of zombie media so I don't know how many exceptions there are.

 No.20609

Terribly sorry for how long this took. New thread >>20607



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 No.19832[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Asher the dragonslayer Edition

Game of Thrones episode 3 has been released, spoilers will be in this thread!

Previous Thread: >>19522

Previously on Telltale Games General…
>Lesbians in TFTB
>SFManon plays GOT for the first time
>Anons discuss converting source engine maps
>Anon starts the Clemmunist party in Democracy 3
>Halfchan /ttgg/ archived in less than 300 posts
>Two anons watch Punisher: War Zone
>DJ asks for ideas for Easter Clem
>Depressionanon takes his pedo fantasies too far
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 No.20268

>>20266
Luke was a pretty boring and inconsistently written character but I wish TT had stuck to their guns and played his rivalry with Kenny out, weak as it was. I actually wish S2 was done completely differently from the start but that's another discussion.

 No.20269

>>20268
>but that's another discussion.
Save it for the next thread then

 No.20270

>>20267
To be fair, most of the survivors are from down south. Very few of them had probably ever seen a frozen lake in their entire lives, so they probably didn't know important stuff like that the ice is thinnest at the shore, and not to go single-file because it doesn't work like a damn minefield.

>>20268
>inconsistently written
What pisses me off the most is that they abandoned the Luke vs Kenny rivalry way before Luke even died. I would have found it much more believable if just a few from the cabin group (Luke being the prime candidate) had a problem with Kenny, instead of literally everyone being pissed at him. The latter option that TTG took just seems lazy.

 No.20271

where were you when nolegal was kill?

 No.20273

New thread >>20272



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