/ttgg/ - TellTale Games

>>25020

Forgot link

https://twitter.com/telltalegames/status/600063231239979008

>>25020

Sure can't wait to get bullied some more.

>>25020

Kinda makes sense they would release GOT first since it has six episodes.

About to start TWAU.

Here we go…

>>25025

Have fun!

And be sure to give it a chance, at least.

>>25027

Good night anon.

>>25027

Good night anon, I hope I can wake up early tomorrow so I can talk to you.

>>25026

I'm actually enjoying it so far.

>>25030

That's good to hear.

I was a little put off when I first started playing it, but I kept going because I really liked the art style, and then everything else just grew on me.

>>25030

Good to hear. How far along are you?

Quick reminder that I will stream the new Game of Thrones episode in about 2 and a half hours.

>>25032

I'm at the part where I'm questioning Toad about the scuffle (I went to Lawrence's apt first) but my gf called, so I'm taking a break.

>>25037

>pic of Nick

I can only assume that means pranks.

Thanks for watching!

>>25037

Yeah, I see what you mean now.

>>25038

Not too far off, actually.

Hey, I'm from the RP. Just wanted to let you know that we appreciate a whole bunch that you guys keep our link in the OP.

So Thanks!

>>25042

No problem. I wish the guys from the RP would post here more.

That was a great SV episode.

>How did you treat Mr. Toad's family in TWAU?

I tried to pressure Mr. Toad as much as I could to get some glamour. Probably would have been a little nicer to him if he didn't risk being seen so often, unlike Colin. Colin at least stays at Bigby's place most of the time.

I was really nice to TJ, especially since he was voiced by Melissa Hutchison.

Don't think I had enough money at the end of Episode 4 to give to him for glamour.

I asked this once before, but perhaps someone can answer this for me. Mr. Toad laments how expensive it is to keep an "entire family in glamour".

Is there anyone besides Mr. Toad and TJ?

>>25042

Glad to know you guys are still around.

>>25044

I haven't read the comics so I don't know who else besides TJ is in Mr. Toad's family. I'm sure there are other toads like him from the Homelands though.

>>25043

We post sometimes, but generally we don't bring up the RP in our posts. I mean I doubt /ttgg/ wants us bringing our drama into the threads constantly.

>>25046

I'd like to hear a little about the RP, actually. Maybe if something comes up the the RP that would make for an interesting discussion here you could mention it.

>>25047

I mean I'd be down to share, but I think a lot of the things I think are interesting is because I'm invested in it. I doubt it would seem that interesting to you guys.

>>25048

Well, maybe not something about specific characters that would require knowledge of the events in the RP, but maybe some moral dilemma you might be facing. You have the advantage of being able to craft your own story instead of working around TTG's, and I think that's really cool. I'm sure if I was more of a creative person, I might be tempted to participate.

>>25050

Good morning anon. Even if I don't like what you made, I'll still appreciate the effort that went into it.

See you later and have a nice day.

>>25050

Good evening anon. I'm sure whatever you make will be good. See you later anon.

>>25049

To go along with this, maybe you RP guys could bring up something that happened in the RP, and ask us how we think it could be done in a telltale game or something.

>>25051

Speaking of SFM, I decided to download it yesterday. What are some good tutorials for someone going in totally blind? I'm not interested in making animations, just pics.

>>25054

There was a guide I wrote quite a while back that should help a bit with this. I updated it but never posted the new link. Here it is:

https://a.pomf.se/wzonie.txt

It's kinda specific to Clem stuff since that's all I really do, but I think it should be helpful. One thing I would add is that you can hold Ctrl over the viewport to select bones. If all you're doing is stills, make sure you're in the motion editor at all times. There's a few other little things that I mention in the guide, but SFM is pretty easy to use once you get the hang of it.

>>25054

SFManon wrote a guide a while back, here: http://a.pomf.se/otmuzn.txt

>>25055

>>25056

Thank you. What other Clem models have you used besides Croix's? I feel really iffy about downloading that one, but I guess I'm gonna have to "bite the bullet" eventually.

>>25057

Why do you feel iffy? It's just a model.

>>25049

>>25053

Next time something interesting happens I'll be sure to write it up here, so you guys can give your thoughts if you want to.

>>25057

I'll zip up the model I use. It's a slightly modified version with her scrubs, but more importantly she spawns fully clothed, if that's what's putting you off.

There's a couple of Clementine models on the workshop, but as I say in the guide, they're not very good for face posing.

>>25059

That'd be great, thanks!

>>25060

Thanks, that would be nice.

>slightly modified version

What's been changed about it besides spawning with clothes?

>>25060

Do you only have Clem models? I looked for Kenny, and Luke models a while ago and wasn't able to find any.

>>25061

http://doku.us/ttgg/res/model.7z

This model spawns with clothes on, has the scrubs I used for DJ's request, and uses a different materials folder than the default model. I also removed some lewd flexes which I knew I'd never use.

One thing that I've been meaning to fix deals with her eyes. In TT games which the model was originally ripped from, their eyes actually move around, and the iris is modeled like a flat plane. Valve models use a special shader for the eye so they don't actually have to move around, just the texture does. What this means for you is that the eyes may seem a little off if they're looking in a very different direction from the camera. I know how to fix this, I just haven't had the time to do it.

>>25062

There's Kenny and Luke models on the Workshop. They're a pain in the ass to work with, though.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=326856146

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=326835443

>>25060

>>25063

It'd be great if you could get the model working in GMod. I'd like to take up the helm as /ttgg/'s OC creator once you're unable to hang around anymore.

>>25064

I'll quote the guide on this:

>Right click the model in the ASE, and go to "Add Material Overrides". Then, right click the model again, and click "Show in Element Viewer > Model". This should switch the tab from the ASE to the Element Viewer. If you expand "materials", you'll see all of the materials the model uses. In Clem's case, you can right click "nudebody" (lewd!), "Add Attribute > Float", and name it "$alpha" (its value should be set to 0 by default). What this does is make the texture completely transparent, which should help if her arms are clipping through her sleeves.

The only downside to this is that it affects her neck a little. I have a workaround, but this should work fine for you.

>>25065

Easier said than done. I recommend trying to get SFM to work, it gives you a lot more control than GMod.

I hope I was helpful for any aspiring content creators out there. I've had quite a long day today, so good night /ttgg/.

>>25066

Good night anon, and thanks for doing me that favor earlier.

>>25065

>>25066

>once you're unable to hang around anymore.

Before I go, I'd like to clarify that I don't intend on going anywhere, just that I'm not sure how active I can be in the coming months. I'm sure once I settle down into a routine, I'll be back to my old habits. I'm not leaving you guys anytime soon.

Good night for real!

>>25068

g'nite my love

>>25071

>filename

You're back?

I'd love to hang around, but I should go to bed now. Good night /ttgg/.

>>25072

I'm always lurking. I've posted a few times in this thread earlier, I just didn't post a picture. I'm not needed for the OP's anymore so I just try and keep a low profile usually.

>>25073

Just like Tae, huh? Good to see you're still around.

>>25074

Doku's a pretty great guy all around. Here's hoping the future will allow him to keep hanging around with us.

>>25076

Noon where? Where do you live? If you are really lonely I can try to be on around then and get some discussion to keep you company.

>>25079

I usually stay up to about 5:30 am to 6, so I got about an hour left to talk if you want.

Have you played GoT/TftB? What about LiS?

>>25036

>Episode name is Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

>Sansa was all three when Ramsey was done with her

Wonder when Talia is going to get raped.

>>25083

I've heard LiS is comparable to TWD S1 in terms of quality.

>>25085

Well, why don't you then anon?

>>25083

>I hope not.

I said when, not if. It's inevitable.

>>25073

>I'm not needed for the OP's anymore

That's not true, if I'm not around when a new thread is needed, anyone can make the new thread if they want. Plus I use the exact same questions every thread because I'm too lazy to come up with anything besides a thread theme question.

>>25084

That sounds like a gross over-exaggeration. Now I'm tempted to check out a let's play of it.

>>25087

Well the thread is usually dead when you're on right? Just watch it any time after you get home. I'm here now if you want to talk.

>>25085

Maybe not needed is an exaggeration, but I'm certainly not required anymore. If you ever want help with new questions just hit me up with what the theme is going to be and I'll try to come up with some for you.

>>25070

>>25074

>>25076

>>25077

Aw, shucks. Thanks guys, but I'm nobody special. Y'all are what make this community great and I love you too.

>>25082

Good one.

Really, it could have been much worse. A woman is required to submit to her husband, so even if she wasn't really willing, it could have turned out much worse for her had she actively resisted. I mean, this is Ramsay Bolton we're talking about.

>>25088

Anon…

>>25091

I'm playing TF2 right now if you want to join me.

>>25093

That was fun, I don't think I've ever played MvM. I'm sure anon enjoyed it, too.

>>25094

Yeah, I loved playing with you guys. I'm glad I was able to entertain you guys, I just wish I could've performed better than I did.

>>25095

I really had no clue what was going on, I hope I did okay.

>>25096

Sleep well, anon. I hope you do well tomorrow.

>>25096

Good night anon.

>>25097

You did better than me, and that's what counts.

>>25098

What TF2 class would Clem play?

What cosmetics would she put on it?

I'm sure DJ would say Medic, which is probably right. I have no idea about cosmetics, though. I barely have any.

>>25099

Pyro with all the ridiculous pony/candy stuff that came out during the "Meet the Pyro" thing.

>>25100

Rainblower. I hate pyro to death but whenever I get the rainblower in randomizer it's my favorite.

>>25100

>>25101

Really? Clementine doesn't really strike me as the kind of girl that would be into all of that cutesy pink shit. Although I guess she might prefer Pyroland to the comical gorefest of regular TF2.

>>25103

S1 Clem yes, but maybe not S2 Clem.

>>25103

It's not about it being girly, anon.

>>25103

To be fair, it's kind of hard to tell how 'girly' or 'tomboyish' Clem would have been if the ZA hadn't intervened, though S1 Clem did lean a little more towards traditionally feminine. I still see her being into dresses as she got older.

>>25104

>>25106

Even S1 Clem seemed more reserved in that respect, though. She prefers reading books, drawing and playing outside. None of those things are something I would typically associate with being very girly. It's a tough call.

>>25105

Then what is it about?

>>25107

I think the "Meet the Pyro" video explains what it's about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I

>>25108

What kind of madman shares pizza?!

>>25109

Oh, well I realize that the Pyroland stuff is meant to be something along the lines of a hallucination. But its girly theme is clearly an attracting factor for some players.

>What kind of madman shares pizza?!

What kind of monster doesn't?!

>Clementine will never take a bite of pizza and try to eat the cheese strands which seem to stretch on forever

>>25107

I was speaking more of general behavior and personality. Traits like being compassionate, courteous, empathetic, demure, and kind are traditionally considered feminine and S1 Clem possesses all of those. In that light, I'd say her artistic nature highlights her femininity. I think you and I are defining 'girly' differently.

>>25111

>sameanon

That said, S1 Clem is just a little girl. What's considered feminine or masculine doesn't mean much to you when you're that young. I wonder what non-ZA S2/teen/adult Clem would have been like.

>>25111

Oh yeah, I won't disagree with you there. I was just defining "girly" in the context of TF2 cosmetics. Pink colors, unicorns, rainbows, stuff like that. I don't think Clem would be into that too much. She definitely does have most of those traits you mentioned.

>>25115

God dammit, why'd you have to go and post that?

>>25116

I couldn't help it.

>I wonder what non-ZA S2/teen/adult Clem would have been like.

Reminded me of it too much to not post.

>>25117

Fair enough, but on an unrelated note I remembered I still had a couple of cans of peaches left.

>>25115

I kind of want to see the non-ZA story of Clementine, a young black woman struggling to make it out of the ghetto with her morals and dignity intact, and Lee, her guilt-ridden professor who sees an opportunity to redeem himself for his past sins by helping her. Pretend Lee got acquitted of all charges.

>>25115

Been a while since I've seen this. At least this is adult Clem so it's not as distressing.

Of course Becca would be the one to put her up to it.

>>25120

I never noticed that the roommate was Becca.

>>25115

Kind of weird that I can sort of see this happening. I wonder if the guy who wrote this is still around.

>>25120

Do you think she'd actually do that, considering her situation? Or would she find another way?

>>25122

>Do you think she'd actually do that, considering her situation? Or would she find another way?

No, of course not, I don't think she'd even consider it.

Clem comes from a decent family, and may have even been a little religious, too. She'd probably end up taking out some student loans instead. She would almost certainly prefer to be in debt and have to work it off after she got her degree.

She might consider streaming and making bank off of neckbeards, though

>>25123

By that last comment I assume you mean showing off a lot of cleavage?

>>25123

>She might consider streaming and making bank off of neckbeards, though

I don't know how much of the creepy comments she could take before getting sick of it unless she developed a really thick skin.

>>25124

I don't think the kind of pervs who pay money to see women stream themselves would be happy with just cleavage.

>>25125

I thought you meant Twitch streaming, not being a camgirl.

>>25126

That may have been what he meant. My mind just went straight to camgirls because we were talking about stripping to make ends meet and his comment was spoilered.

>>25124

I'm not sure where I would draw the line. I say that if she was desperate enough, she wouldn't have a problem taking the disposable income of white knights on Twitch. But I don't know how far she'd go in that respect.

Would you watch Clem's stream, or her LPs or something? I guess she wouldn't be in TWDG in that case, so your feelings for her now wouldn't be present. But just her character, do you think she'd be able to entertain people doing that?

>>25125

>>25126

>>25127

Yes, I meant Twitch streaming. Don't think she'd be a camgirl, that's a step too far in my opinion.

I guess my perception of her involves some pretty strong morals. I'm not sure if that's very well founded or just my own headcanon.

>>25128

What character? In S2 she was effectively a blank template.

>>25130

Well yeah, but that's because S2 is shit.

But from the little glimpses we saw of her potential, you can draw your own conclusions to what she might be like.

>>25131

Her personality in season 1 wasn't exactly a lot to go on, especially considering she was only 9 years old.

>>25128

I like to think I'm not the kind of guy who falls for "gamer girl" personas who advertise how girly ad pretty they are, but I doubt I'd immediately leave the page if I saw a caramel qt like Clem stream. I'm not sure how entertaining or informative she'd be since there's very little to go off of. We can only speculate and dream.

>>25129

I think people are capable of far more than what they'd like to believe. It really depends on their situation and the available options. That's actually what TWDG is about. Of course, the character they come into a situation with matters greatly on how they'll behave but that character is susceptible to change and is always changing.

>>25130

I wouldn't go that far. She had personality in the first two episodes, even if it was malleable and potentially inconsistent depending on how you chose.

>>25133

Let me reword that.

She has no set personality. Either it's entirely down to player choice or not there at all.

>>25134

I agree, but I also think the other anon has a point >>25131. S2 Clem has just enough personality traits that you can piece together and then fill the gaps in with other traits. You can work with that, as the saying goes. I think we've been doing that this whole time actually, taking S2 Clem and supplementing what personality she has with what we know about S1 Clem because, after all, they're technically the same character. The S2 team just didn't do a good job connecting both incarnations and making S2 Clem a complete person all her own simultaneously, probably they focused too much on making her malleable.

>>25132

>I doubt I'd immediately leave the page if I saw a caramel qt like Clem stream

I'm not really the type to watch streams, even if a qt like Clem was streaming. She'd have to have really interesting commentary and insight into whatever she was doing to keep me watching, and streamers that do that are few and far between.

What about if she had a podcast about books she's been reading or something along those lines? I might listen to something like that. I already listen to a couple of podcasts.

>It really depends on their situation and the available options

I'm saying financial pressure alone wouldn't be enough to get Clementine to strip at a strip club. Even if she was desperate enough, she seems to have an upbringing that would strongly discourage that sort of stuff. I don't think you can compare being in debt for a few years to the zombie apocalypse in terms of motivating people to question their own morals and boundaries.

>>25134

Well, then answer based on how you played Clementine. At least we have the advantage of being able to do that with TellTale games as opposed to other media.

>>25136

>I'm saying financial pressure alone wouldn't be enough to get Clementine to strip at a strip club. Even if she was desperate enough, she seems to have an upbringing that would strongly discourage that sort of stuff. I don't think you can compare being in debt for a few years to the zombie apocalypse in terms of motivating people to question their own morals and boundaries.

I agree with everything you're saying, I just didn't make myself clear. I don't think Clem would strip for a living in that specific situation. I just find the concept of people doing things they never knew they were capable of when put under pressure interesting and decided to prattle on about it.

>What about if she had a podcast about books she's been reading or something along those lines? I might listen to something like that. I already listen to a couple of podcasts.

I could see her doing podcasts about history or art. I'd listen if it was informative and entertaining at the same time, like Hardcore History or something like that.

Clem wouldn't strip or be a camgirl.I feel like she respects her body too much for that. Now Becca and Sarah are a different. Sarah would do so as a prank or to disobey daddy. Becca would do it because she enjoys it

>>25138

Oh god, now I want to see a camgirl Sarah…

There isn't enough Sarah r34

>>25139

Good morning anon, I hope you do well on your exam today.

Yes, it certainly is a strange conversation. Do you have any insight you'd like to share…?

>>25140

What am I even looking at here?

>>25142

Let's just say it's part of a bigger picture

>>25144

And the bigger picture is…?

>>25145

Look for a pomf link in the previous thread…

>>25146

Holy shit.

>>25147

I'm no r34 connoisseur, but I'd say that's the finest bit of Clem r34 this side 'o the Mississippi

>>25148

It's good, but not THAT good.

>>25149

You don't think so? What's your fave?

>>25148

>I'm no r34 connoisseur

Sure you aren't…

>>25150

>discussing favorite r34

I'm out

>>25150

I'm not sure this is the best place to be discussing this.

>>25151

See ya later, I guess.

>>25152

>See ya later, I guess.

I meant that tongue-in-cheek.

>>25153

I know what you meant, anon.

>>25151

I mean if he has to mention that it's not THAT good, then that means that there's a "better" one right?

>>25156

You could could show us anyway, just post a link to it.

>>25156

I see. Spoiler if you wish to share, describing though. No pics.

>>25157

>>25158

I don't think he needs further temptation.

>>25159

Further temptation? What?

Oh, I'm assuming he's an anon I don't recognize.

>>25156

Is it on paheal?

>>25162

You're right, anon. Please study so you do well.

In fact, get off of /ttgg/, it can be very distracting.

>>25162

What subject is the exam for?

>>25164

English exam. I think he'll do fine since he talks to us all day.

>>25136

>Well, then answer based on how you played Clementine. At least we have the advantage of being able to do that with TellTale games as opposed to other media.

The problem with season 2 is that they went too far with that, and as a result, Clementine is capable of doing out of character things, particularly in episode 5. She was properly characterized in episode 1, but from episode 2 on, she's more capable of killing zombies than any other adult in the season, and they didn't even try to write her as a kid. They even acknowledged this in episode 4. They knew they weren't writing Clementine as a kid, they just didn't care.

>>25166

Oh yeah, I'm not gonna deny that. But at least a side effect of that is what you're seeing here, we all have different opinions on how we think Clem was (or should be) characterized, even if it's mostly in our heads and not TTG's doing.

In terms of writing, that's not really a good thing, but that's what we've got to work with.

>>25167

What do you think "S2" Clem would've been like if the ZA never happened?

Sorry, was a bit distracted watching Fury. The actor that played Shane in TWD was in it, and he was just as much of an asshole.

>tfw Clem will never command a tank

>>25168

I think she would've been an overachiever. Everything in S1 points to her loving school and reading and books, and I think she would be very passionate about her studies, maybe even taking advanced classes. In her free time, she'd keep herself occupied reading books, writing stories, listening to music. She'd hang out with like-minded people and probably have a best friend she would spend a lot of time with, maybe even have sleepovers with sometimes. She mentioned playing soccer, which I think she would keep doing even though she doesn't really like it that much because it made her parents happy and she'd value that quite a bit.

>>25169

Actually, I just remembered that the Governor has a M60 MBT in the TV show.

So maybe Clem could command a tank sometime.

I wonder how much gas it takes to keep that thing running. Kinda impractical in the ZA.

Actually, now I'm questioning why they'd have a M60 tank. I'd imagine all the operational ones are retired, in a museum, or are used for training. None of those roles would have an operational main gun like they used in the show.

End rant.

>>25169

I'd like to think we'd see the same passion from her in Wellington, learning from skilled inhabitants and doing her part for the community. Then again, I also want to see her deal with the guilt and depression she'd likely have and how that might affect her ability to function and perform.

>>25170

>So maybe Clem could command a tank sometime.

What are the chances we'll actually something like see that, or adult Clem commanding a paramilitary force?

>>25171

>What are the chances we'll actually something like see that

Pretty low, really. She might be a leader someday, but I doubt she'd be out in the field commanding her forces directly. Clem wouldn't have the know-how nor the inclination for military strategy, and she'd probably pick a more able person for that duty. Maybe a former soldier or cop.

>>25173

I don't know, I can see adult Clem having some martial knowledge and leading something like a small-scale raid, especially if she was still part of a small group. It's probably just me but I don't see her hanging back when her fellow survivors embark on a dangerous mission. It was her after all that was doing all the perilous tasks in S2.

>>25173

That reminds me, where's the anon doing Crusader Kings 2 with Clem?

I'm gonna go to bed now, good night /ttgg/.

>>25175

I've been sort on a break. That's how I usually play Paradox campaigns, I play a burst of sessions and then take a break and focus on other things. I'll get back to it soon. Good night.

>>25174

I will admit that it's sort of my /k/ fantasy that Clem would know how to clear rooms, do a Mozambique drill, stuff like that. But I know that wouldn't happen. You're probably right, though. Especially if the group was smaller, I think she would like to help out where she could and "lead" more in the way of keeping everyone focused on the objective.

>>25175

Good night.

>>25176

I got Vicky 2 free from an anon the other day. Maybe I'll try it out soon, do you have any experience with it?

>>25178

>I got Vicky 2 free from an anon the other day. Maybe I'll try it out soon, do you have any experience with it?

I do, I've had a lot of fun with it. It's based around your nation's population, their needs and wants, trade, and political reform. Other than that, it's a typical paradox game (diplomacy, war, etc.) The economy is really obtuse (the developers don't even know how it works) but you mostly deal with it just by taking provinces that have the resources you want to feed into your factories. It's not the best Paradox game (that would be EU4, imo) but it's definitely worth a try, especially if the period interests you.

>>25179

>sameanon

>based around your nation's population, their needs and wants, trade, and political reform

I should add industrialization too. The game has a lot of fans that swear by it, but even they disagree on what makes the game appealing to them. I think that's because more than any other Paradox game Vicky 2 tries to tackle multiple facets of it's period in the form of a bunch of loosely connected mechanics, making it the least focused in the Paradox "series" (CK2, EU4, Vicky, HoI2). I like it because it really gives the feeling of making your little nation powerful and significant on the world stage and how you're decisions affect your citizens.

>>25178

>But I know that wouldn't happen.

You sure? I'm kind of curious how "badass" Telltale plan to make older Clem especially after the combat prowess she displayed in S2. She probably won't be clearing rooms like a professional, but she might have a lot more opportunities to kill other humans in combat. How far do you think they might take it?

>>25180

Nice, I really like games with a lot of different facets like that. Even if it's not as focused, it feels so right when something hits you out of left field that you weren't expecting.

>I'm kind of curious how "badass" Telltale plan to make older Clem

>But I know that won't happen if S3 is competently written*

Is what I should have written. If she does turn out to be popping people left and right, I'm just gonna be disappointed. I don't think TellTale will take it that far, though.

>>25181

Do you have either of the DLC? The vanilla game is really barebones and the DLC adds a lot of new systems, some badly needed tweaks some of the existing ones, some quality-of-life stuff, and of course a lots of new events.

>If she does turn out to be popping people left and right, I'm just gonna be disappointed.

Hmm, how did you feel about the part in S1E3 where Lee is killing a bunch of bandits at the motel? How would you feel if adult Clem did something similar?

>>25182

I don't have the DLCs, but Paradox DLC is really easy to pirate so I guess I'll just do that.

>how did you feel about the part in S1E3 where Lee is killing a bunch of bandits at the motel?

I think that was justified because it was defensive. I would have a problem if Clem led something like what Rick was planning for the Hospital in S5 of the TV show. His initial plan was to just go in and kill everyone hostile with suppressed weapons in order to extract Beth. That's just too far in my opinion. It fits Rick's character, but definitely not Clementine's.

>>25183

To expand on this, the final plan they decide to go with is to capture two of the hospital's people in order to exchange them for Beth and Carol. Clementine would be the one to suggest that alternative.

Holy hell, it's 7:40. Got too carried away doing GTA heists.

Good night /ttgg/.

>>25188

Hey that's the same artist who did the Clem & Lee drawing from last thread. Awesome.

>>25189

That's why I posted it. I'm sure there are anons who have visited the artist's blog, but not everyone will have.

>>25189

Who still won't do one of Jane and Clem, sadly.

>>25188

Wow, that's really nice.

I wonder why this artist decided to make S1 art recently all of a sudden.

So it's Tuesday and as far as I can tell, they haven't released GoT Ep4.

I assume it's coming next week, then?

>>25192

No clue, I have no idea if these were recently made or much older. That or the artist is getting those season 1 feels.

>>25194

Well, both of the S1 pictures have recent dates on them. The other one was May 14, and this one is today, May 19.

>That or the artist is getting those season 1 feels.

Maybe they jumped on that PSN deal and got inspired by playing season 1.

Either way, I hope this means we'll get more art from this person.

>>25194

That one got posted today. There's a larger resolution in the link. http://bembiann.deviantart.com/art/You-ain-t-little-you-re-alive-534054892

>>25195

Hopefully so.

>>25196

Sweet, I just saved the image from something that Clem's VO retweeted on twitter so it wasn't the best resolution.

>>25199

Goodnight.

>>25199

Good night anon, sweet dreams.

Looks like 8chan's having some problems today.

If it goes down for a while again, you can use the Steam group's discussion area for anything important you might want to say.

>>25193

They'll probably put up a trailer the end of this week. But yes, it's safe to say next tuesday will be GoT.

>>25206

>In a perfect world, Clem would've just come across Pete at the cabin and they would've found their way to the lodge.

So in this version of events, Pete would be the only one that escaped from Howe's, and Rebecca/Alvin would have just been random survivors that met up with Kenny and co.? The cabin group was there to provide motivation for Carver to come after them and introduce him as a villain. I'm not so sure if Carver would come after just one escapee like Pete.

Also, I don't think those characters you mentioned were bad in theory, just execution. Sarah had a lot of potential in my opinion.

>>25207

No, Alvin, Rebecca, and Pete would all still be escapees, just separated. Carver could've come a' knockin' the same way and Pete could've hid from him. Then, knowing Carver had lots of people and guns, Pete would've deemed it necessary for them to leave and stumbled across the ski lodge. In this version, Matthew wouldn't have died and we'd get to know his character. Hell, he (or Walter or both) could've been in it for the long run.

>>25206

Is it time to bitch about the CG? Hell yeah. Fuck those guys seriously. Lee's Group despite its MANY shortcomings blows them out the water.

>>25207

Sarah was the tipping point for me in a myriad of ways.

>>25208

Oh, I see. Any alternate timeline where Pete lives is okay by me. Pete was one of the best S2 characters and he died so early.

>>25209

>Sarah was the tipping point for me in a myriad of ways.

What exactly do you mean?

>>25210

That entire scene and everything leading up to it was a perfect example of TTG's incompetence during S2, and everything after that made me feel that they were lazy. If you will allow me to rant:

>Asking whether to save Sarah THRICE and it still doesn't matter

>Hey, remember when Nick lured those walkers away in Ep2 by yelling and making noise? Yeah, us neither

>Thanks for shooting one zombie each, Luke and Bonnie.

>The fucking scaffold or whatever wasn't too far up to jump or shimmy down Get your asses down there and do some saving

>Fucking AJ

>Steal medicine or don't, it doesn't matter

>What do mean NO ONE was killed in that firefight?

>Ice is thin, better spread out…two yards. And walk in a straight line, over each other's cracks

>Bonnie not knowing how thin ice and gravity and weight works

>Let's all argue while Sweet Pea catches hypothermia or something

>Thanks Arvo, I always wanted to know how hot lead felt

>Kenny and Jane arguing over some bullshit, and going into a deathmatch, and CONVENIENTLY, AJ staying quiet for dramatic effect.

The fuck back to the drawing board, TTG. Made me dislike Clem in this Season

Where exactly do I put the CS:GO map files so I can load them properly in SFM?

>>25212

I think S2's most fatal problems run deeper than any of those examples, but, yeah, a lot of those were annoying. I'd add the huge plothole in episode 2 and how Carlos' idiotic decision to ignore a preventable disaster caused almost everything bad thing afterward to happen.

>>25214

I don't mean for them to exemplify the more egregious shortcomings, they were just bad, bad storytelling.

Carlos was one of the first with that damn dog bite, though

>>25216

Also, I don't see why they wouldn't just let her in the cabin, and kick her out if she started developing a fever. It's 2 years into the ZA, you'd think they would know how bites and the infection work.

>>25216

Thanks a lot anon.

>>25217

>you'd think they would know how bites and the infection work.

They didn't even seem to be aware that they were already infected. Nick flat out tells Clem. "None of us want to get infected. That's the point." Have they never noticed that people reanimate regardless of being bit and what that means? The fact you can't point this out to them and their apparent ignorance is never addressed makes me think it was a massive oversight on the part of the writers. I'd call it the biggest plothole in the game if flashlight dilemma didn't exist.

What do you guys think of the idea of a continuity reboot of the series from season 2 on? It seems to me like the perfect way to fix all of season 2's problems, since they are so numerous and easy to point out that they would basically need to remake the entire thing from scratch in order to improve it anyway.

>>25218

Forgive me since I haven't played S2 in quite a while (and only once), but wasn't that line referring to not wanting to get bit? "Infected" was just a poor word choice.

>>25219

A continuity reboot could certainly fix S2's problems, but most people wouldn't see why it was necessary. We unfortunately live in a world where everyone sings endless praises for S2 and completely ignore its shortcomings.

Has any form of media ever done something like that? Just retcon and redo something?

>>25220

Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 was supposed to be a continuity reboot for the Sonic series so we would have all of the characters from Sonic Adventure onward, but with none of the backstory. However they completely fucked it up in Sonic Generations, which treats Sonic 06 as canon.

What's going on in the Marvel comics right now is the incursions, contractions that cause universes throughout the Multiverse to collide, causing the destruction of the universes that collided, which will eventually lead to a class z apocalypse. If what I heard is true, the reason this is being is because there's a lot of contradictions in the Marvel universe, so they're doing this to reboot the entire thing.

>>25220

>Forgive me since I haven't played S2 in quite a while (and only once), but wasn't that line referring to not wanting to get bit? "Infected" was just a poor word choice.

You're probably right. but then why not just have Nick say "bit"? It still seems like an oversight.

>>25219

As much as I'd love to see a properly done S2. fully and properly characterized Clem and all, TTG made their bed. We can only look forward and hope the S3 team doesn't screw up. On the other hand, if a (talented) ficwriter can make my dream S2 reboot I would just love that.

What does the ideal S2 reboot look like in your mind? What would the main themes and Clem's character arc be about? Would it story look similar to what was canonically was written or would it be an entirely different story?

>>25226

I guess I'm saying if I was writing that line, I'd of made the distinction so it made Nick seem less naive and made it clear he knew the difference. That would have been significantly less confusing and I don't know why the writers wrote that if they intended it.

>I wonder, if someone died normally and not due to a bite, would their bite infect (the one that kills you) others? How would their zombified corpse get the pathogens that kill you?

I think every walker's bite is canonically always fatal, no matter how they originally died. It's just one of those inexplicable powers they have, along with being almost indestructible and having ludicrous amounts of strength when convenient. Did Kirkman ever establish that the deadliness of the bite is caused by special pathogens/toxins or if a walker's mouth is just loaded with deadly diseases like you'd expect a rotting corpse to have?

>>25225

An ideal season 2 for me would have some elements of what we got but be different enough from it to ultimately be a different story, rather than an alternate continuity.

>Omid and Christa are not killed off right away

>They (or at least Christa) live long enough to meet up with Kenny along with Clem

>The cabin group gets some actual backstory and character development

>Rebecca dies shortly after giving birth, in a heartfelt scene where she shows regret for not being able to take care of her kid

>Choices that actually matter outside of the ending one

>Hub worlds that are like S1's hub worlds

>Overarching plot is about Clementine's journey to Wellington

>Clementine learning how to become more independent and take care of herself as a main theme of the story

>Clementine is her own character and not a blank slate for the player to project themselves into

>Ending choice is having to choose between saving Christa or Kenny, determining who you end up at Wellington with rather than whether or not you make it there

These are just some of the ideas I have for a better season 2.

>>25229

Sleep well, anon.

>>25228

More Christa love and I really don't understand it. Christa was nothing but a bitch to Clementine in Season 2. Why do so many people want her back? If she's dead, I'll be happy. It's what she deserved.

>>25234

Presumably the reason why Christa is a bitch is because she blames Clem for the death of Omid. With Omid still alive, not only is there more of a balance in terms of how Clem is raised, but Christa has no reason to be a bitch to Clem. The main reason I want those two to stick around however, is because since they are carried over from season 1 I have reason to care about them. This way even if the new characters in season 2 give me no reason to care about them, or if I don't like them, I still have characters I do care about to keep me entertained. Also, Omid died way too fast and stupidly for me to feel anything when he died. Keeping him around longer allows for me to actually feel something for him when he does die.

>>25226

I forgot to reply to this.

>if S3 is good enough

Careful with your words anon. I want Telltale to actually put effort into season 3. I want it to be good, not "good enough".

>Presumably the reason why Christa is a bitch is because she blames Clem for the death of Omid

Funny, cuz she's as much to blame as Clem is. And yeah, Omid dying was the shock value pull for S2

A little busy right now, but just wanted to say that I still plan on streaming Chappie tonight at 9:30 EST.

>>25236

I think that goes without saying.

>>25237

It was a shitty situation in general. Christa or Omid should have been on watch while Clem washed up.

I just realized that it was really stupid of her to yell, "Hello"

>>25241

Damn, that sucks. Sorry to hear that anon, I hope things will work out for you, especially since tomorrow is your last day with your life as it is now.

>>25242

You mean because she might lure walkers over?

Maybe. But she could always just swim into the river, walkers seem to have trouble with strong currents.

There's also the possibility she might attract the attention of nearby bandits, or maybe even the remnants of Winston's gang. So yeah, I guess it was kinda stupid.

>>25243

Thanks anon. The plus side is that now all of my stuff is packed up neat in little boxes so I don't have to spend time doing that Thursday night.

Also hotwheels pls get your shit together.

I was trying to post this earlier but I couldn't, let's say instead of Duck getting bitten during the raid at the motor inn, Clementine gets shot. Katjaa tries to save her life, but is unable to, and they have to shoot/leave Clem. How different would things be from that point on? How would Lee react to Ben telling him that he caused the bandit raid?

>>25245

Lee would be absolutely devastated. I don't know how he would act in that state, but if the thing with the senator is any indication, he might be capable of some crazy shit. Then again, I think by then he's repented for his actions and wouldn't repeat the same mistakes no matter how angry or sad he was.

Since Duck didn't get bitten, Kenny wouldn't have that on his mind and would go off the rails. If Lee didn't kill or leave Ben, Kenny might.

The PS4 version of TFTB just got a new patch. Super soon. ;)

Yeah I was thinking along the lines of bandits

Thanks for watching!

>>25250

I was wondering earlier… Do you think Winston may have run into the cabin group at some point? Perhaps he thought Christa and Clem were part of the cabin group, which is why they kept asking where the rest of their group was.

>>25251

Thanks for streaming. I'm gonna miss them.

I actually would've liked to see how the cabin would've handled an encounter with bandits, speaking of which, isn't it weird that they seemingly didn't come across any other survivors during that 5 day timeskip?

>>25253

Good evening anon. I hope you'll be around later so I can talk to you.

>>25252

Not just the timeskip, what about before they met Clem?

Part of my problem with the CG is that there's very little thought put into their backstory. Sure, they escaped from Carver, but what else? They threw away the George plotline and they don't really explain why they broke out other than "Carver's mean lel". They would've been a lot more compelling if they had some shared experiences to talk about, things that may have brought them closer together or even divided them apart. Run-ins with bandits, problems getting food, disagreements over leadership, things like that. All they seem like now is a bunch of characters jumbled together with no real connections.

>>25253

Good morning anon. Sorry we couldn't chat yesterday (today for me).

Keep us in your thoughts and you won't be lonely, anon.

>>25255

>there's very little thought put into their backstory

This is one of the reasons I feel like the series could use a reboot from S2 on. It would allow us to have an actual backstory for these characters. Luke and Nick get the most backstory, but it doesn't mean anything because they die the episodes they get it. The only thing we learn about Alvin and Rebecca is that they went skiing once and that it wasn't pretty. We don't learn shit about Carlos and Sarah, all we know is that he sheltered her from the apocalypse. Basically we'd lose nothing from giving the cabin group a different backstory, because they have none to begin with. Hell Bonnie was supposed to give us backstory on Carver, but they removed that dialogue from the game.

>>25257

It's more the group dynamic that I'm interested in. Yeah, backstories for each individual character would make them more compelling. But a big reason S1 was so good was because you could see and feel how various events and people had an influence on the group as a whole. You felt how the tension between Lilly and Kenny at the motor inn took its toll on others, and Duck getting bit deeply affected everyone, including Clementine. You even saw this a little in Hershel; the death of his son suddenly made the threat he had dismissed before very real to him. His response to that shock was pushing away everyone else, blaming them. And he was just in one episode!

Meanwhile, people from the cabin group can drop left and right like flies and nobody bats an eye. I'm meant to believe that they all decided to take the huge risk of escaping Howe's together? Why these people in particular?

Also, LiS has a habit of crashing when I alt-tab, and it doesn't save very often, so I guess I'll be a bit more selective with my posts.

>>25256

what is being implied here?

I was more interested in Mike than anyone in the cabin group. Shame he had to be a traitorous twat

>>25261

Yeah I wish he would kill himself. He offers nothing all he does is attention whore trying to get people to feel sad for him.

>>25259

Just your everyday baneposting.

>>25261

>>25262

Hey now, that's not very nice.

He's a really nice guy and I'm trying to help him open up to others and he's doing very well so far. Can you please at least be a little more supportive? There aren't many of us around here, we might as well look after one another.

>>25263

A good friend of mine has depression but he's sensible enough to keep that shit out of our conversations because he knows it's obnoxious and selfish as fuck to constantly involve me in on that shit. If depressionfag was a good person he wouldn't continuously post about himself, but no, he's a selfish bitch and an attention whore.

>>25264

He hasn't posted about being sad or anything in quite a while, and I'd like to think that's because he has me to talk to now. If you really have that much of a problem, hide his posts.

He's a friend and it's pretty cruel to kick someone when they're down like that. Lay off, okay?

>>25265

>He hasn't posted about being sad or anything in quite a while

>>25253

>>25264

A lot of anons do here do things that annoy or piss off other anons, like namefagging, blogposting, characterfagging, etc. Quit bitching about it, use the hide function, and ignore posts the you don't like. You should know how this works now.

>>25267

No, fuck you. He needs to be called out on his bullshit. He needs to realize how he's bugging the hell out of people when he talks about this stuff, because if he does it here there's a chance he's doing it irl and that means the people around him are suffering through his annoying ass too.

>>25266

Yeah, I'd be lonely too if everybody was asleep when I could post.

Is posting hello.webm or tumbleweed.gif attention whoring, too?

I get that you don't like him, but he's still a part of our community and it would be nice if you treated him with a bit more respect. Instead of putting others down, start or join a discussion. We're getting nowhere with this pointless bickering.

>>25269

>part of the community

He's just some anonymous guy, nothing more, nothing less. The second you give him a cute little name and treat him as a part of a "community" you done fucked up.

>>25270

You're anonymous too, but that doesn't change the fact that I think you're a dick. And you know what I can do about that? Just fucking ignore you, starting now.

Anyways, I've been playing LiS for a bit. I haven't gotten to the point where any of my choices have an effect yet so I can't judge that aspect. But what I can say is that the game feels like a big fleshed out TTG hub, almost like one of their older adventure games. I think TTG would do well to follow this formula, it's nice having so much freedom.

However, I find it hard to relate to the characters, and it really feels like a 30 year old watched some teen movies and tried writing dialogue like that. Not believable or natural at all.

>>25272

Not him, but the dialogue is pretty cheesy. Almost every part of the game is a hub. You can't completely roam the world, but there are parts where you can explore most of the school campus, and there's a ton of items to examine and little things like helping people and getting dirt on people as well.

>LiS

I know there has been a lot of bitching recently, but I have to bitch about discussing LiS here. It's not a TellTale game so why is it being discussed?

>it's similar

So? It's not "telltale games and games that are similar general"

I'd rather discus lewd than some TWD wannabe/hipster simulator/butterfly effect clone.

>>25272

Basically this >>25273

There's also the time rewind mechanic. Instead of just rewinding to pick a different dialogue option, it can also be used to open up new options and even solve puzzles. There was a pretty neat puzzle involving a paint bucket that I liked.

>>25274

Well, the fact that its so similar provides a lot of opportunities to discuss how TTG could change up their "formula" they tout around. I persinally think that TTG would benefit greatly by looking at what makes LiS good. LiS has better gameplay elements in my opinion, which is one thing that's lacking from recent TT games.

I'm not gonna go off discussing the game's story or something though. I agree that would be too far off topic.

>>25271

>>25273

>there are parts where you can explore most of the school campus, and there's a ton of items to examine and little things like helping people and getting dirt on people as well.

>I think TTG would do well to follow this formula

I'd love if S3 did something like this with a big Wellington-like settlement and the areas surrounding it. It'd would be a welcome change from constantly moving from set-piece to set-piece with an occasional barebones hub to break the action the way S2 did it.

>>25275

Agreed. TTG seems to think it owns the "narrative-heavy adventure game" genre so it worth talking about games that are doing something similar and possibly better. That's why I want to talk about how Firewatch handles creative narratives when it comes out since it's being made by essentially the S1 team and they seem keen on polishing the "formula" that made S1 work to begin with. That's all I ever wanted S2 to do when I first heard it was coming out.

>>25272

I didn't really directly answer this question because I was posting from my phone, but I'd say the writing is just out of touch. It's as if someone thought Hannah Montana was a realistic depiction of life at an American high school and decided to write it that way.

As much as we like to criticize TT's writing ability, I think overall they're better at writing natural-sounding dialogue versus LiS. It sounds like a conversation most of the time, not a hodgepodge of canned, clichéd responses. If the TTG writers teamed up with the gameplay people from LiS (and quit rewriting shit all the time), I think the end result would be pretty great.

I think I'll head to bed for now, I'm tired as hell. But there's one thing I'd like to mention before I go. LiS has a lot of internal monologue, do you think this would work well in a TT game? Would S2 have benefited if we could hear Clementine's internal monologue and make decisions based around that? Do you think it might alienate you as a player?

I decide to make some OC and discussion picks up while I'm gone.

>bitching

Oh…

>>25260

Mike was actually supposed to be one of the bandits that attacked Christa, and part of episode 3 was supposed to be him trying to convince Clem that he's not a bad person, but Telltale scraped that because god forbid there be an actually interesting character in the game.

>>25261

Where the fuck did this even come from? Depressionanon hasn't even been posting like that lately and in fact has been improving recently. So the only reason I can see for you posting that is just to be a dick.

>>25263

>Just your everyday baneposting.

Really glad I'm not the only one who thought of that. The guy in the poster is even dressed like CIA.

>>25271

>but that doesn't change the fact that I think you're a dick

So this is an argument between Wolverine and Cyclops?

>>25275

I wonder though, what's the story like in terms of quality? How does it compare to a Telltale game?

And since my internet is being it's usual uncooperative self, this is where I'll say good night /ttgg/. I'll post the OC I made tomorrow.

>>25278

I think the story is just fine, aside from some bumps. Most of the characters are pretty alright as well, aside from typical cunt Victoria. Chloe is still a funny character despite being a terrible friend and influence.

>>25263

Yeah, the openness of it is really great. I almost forgot that narrative focused "games" can be open. It's pretty good. Shame about the preachy politics and bland or annoying characters.

So far Chloe is the only one with any depth to her, but goddamn do I want to choke a bitch. How the fuck did she even live this long anyway? I had to save her life three times in two days.

>>25222

I laughed at the end, I'm terrible.

That's what she gets for double parking in the handicapped space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G22RCXlEBHc

got comes out next week. Gryff gets BTFO'd

>>25284

I can't believe I'm actually excited for this. This is the first time I've actually been hype for a new GOT episode.

>>25285

I lost interest when I realized that I won't get to see the battle of Castle Black or be able to send Forrester men to march with Stannis. Still, it's nice to see that Ironrath folks won't spend another whole episode getting bullied. It was getting very repetitive.

>>25281

>Shame about the preachy politics

Yeah, this annoyed me.

>if season 2 had internal monologuing, telltale would've given us choices for that as well

Hah, I never thought about that.

Imagine this as a huge player choice:

>[Reminisce about apple juice]

>[Reminisce about hotdogs]

>>25284

Nice, now all we need is a Borderlands trailer.

>>25287

Meant to reply to >>25283

Pretty quiet these days, huh?

If I didn't have so many other things to take care of, I'd take this opportunity to finish GoT Ep2 and 3. I also didn't get to start drawing like I wanted to.

>>25289

I'm trying to post but I keep getting an error.

>>25290

Yeah, same here. I tried posting an image but it didn't want to go through.

>>25291

So the problem wasn't with the specific image I was trying to post? Okay. I guess I'll just ask without the image, would you have preferred season 2 being a sequel to 400 Days instead? Granted you'd be playing as Bonnie since she's the one who goes no matter what, but at least it would be better than the rest of the cast being reduced to two second cameos.

>>25289

Yep, things are often very quiet.

I had a pretty good day, did some go-karting.

>you'll never take clem go-karting

>you'll never rub it in her face when you win

>>25292

I don't know. I played 400 days after season 2, so I never felt the anticipation you anons might have had to see them in action again and the disappointment when you didn't.

>you'd be playing as Bonnie

That's a tough sell. I guess I only really hate her because of season 2, so it might not have been so bad. Maybe playing as her would make people more sympathetic towards her little drug problem.

>>25293

Go-karting sounds really fun! I'm sure if images weren't broken, someone would post that Mario Kart picture.

Also, I think Clem could probably beat me in go-karts because she'd be lighter. Those things can really start slowing down the more you weigh.

>>25293

>not letting Clementine win

It's like you don't even love her.

>>25294

I know playing as Bonnie would be a tough sell, but she'd have to be a more likeable character if we're going to play as her for an entire game. I feel like a sequel to 400 Days would be better than what we got, if anything because it'd be a continuation of something from season 1, we already knew the characters somewhat, and we'd get to know them even more through the events in season 2.

>>25292

No, honestly. I was underwhelmed by 400 days and hearing that S2 was a continuation of it would not only have baffled me (why call it S2 if it's not going to pick up where S1 left off), I probably would not have picked it up. I've mentioned before I don't have much interest in the TWD universe beyond how it's affected by the characters I came to care about in TWDGS1. There's also a good chance it still would've lead and written by Breckon and his team so the writing would likely have been terrible, only this with characters I don't care about.

>>25297

Better they ruin characters we don't care about than ones we do care about. Though I'm sure plenty of people wouldn't have bought the game in that case, which is why I consider season 2 to be a cash grab, and Clem is only the PC because the game wouldn't sell otherwise.

Let her down gently

Meant to reply to >>25296

Okay, I found out by testing that the filesize limit is a meager 8kb. I don't even have any images besides >>25298 that are that small.

>>25299

>Better they ruin characters we don't care about

Better that they don't ruin characters at all. There's not much we can do for S2 besides hope that the DLC and S3 will be good. For better or worse, we're stuck with how it is now. Hopefully GoT Ep4 will continue to prove that TTG might have gotten their shit together.

>tfw Bloody Mary will never be romanceable

Why go on living?

Also yeah only small files are working right now.

>>25309

idk, BM seems like she would be into some pretty hardcore stuff.

>>25310

That's the point.

>>25310

…how hardcore are we talking here?

>>25304

she looks like a character from King of the Hill in this picture lol

>>25314

>>25312

She might cuss during intercourse and she might also hold your hands while you do it missionary style saying that she loves you

Basically she's a twisted bitch.

>>25318

I-I thought you were talking about Clem for a brief second, s-so I imagined her in those scenarios…

>>25317

That's quite a stretch. Try this on for size:

Ascii 25 is the End of Medium control character which was used to signify that a computer tape was ending.

>End of Medium

>End of World 3.14

Clearly this means Clem is the cutest person in the entire world.

>>25318

Lewd..

>>25319

Really lewd…

>>25317

I want to taste Clem's 3.14, if you know what I mean…

New Thread >>25322