/ttgg/ - TellTale Games

>>25628

Right, now that that's out of the way…

>What do you think of Rodrik? How do you play him?

Well, I was only recently introduced to him in Ep2. I'd say he's alright, but there's nothing really outstanding about him. Just your run-of-the-mill lordly type, you know?

I gotta say, the scarring he's got going on is actually kinda cool. It's not your clichéd slash across the eye like Beskha, it legitimately looks painful and disgusting.

I play him as putting his honor and house first. Fuck kissing Ludd's ring, that dude can shove it.

Also, when the Maester treats him, I drank the poppy juice or whatever. What is that?

I also wanted to ask if Tyrion's deal with Mira to sell the Ironwood through House Forrester is something you can turn down, or if it's forced upon you. I took the deal but wasn't sure if you could refuse it.

>>25629

>poppy juice

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Milk_of_the_poppy

Pretty much GoT morphine.

>>25629

>it legitimately looks painful

Rodrik's a big guy.

>>25631

For you.

>>25630

Well, that's one mystery solved. What happens if you don't drink it?

Do you get treated to the Maester filling your wounds with maggots again? That was lovely.

>>25631

>>25632

Fucking hell, guys.

Baneposting will never die, will it?

>>25635

Kek. Good luck anon, it'll be nice to have someone on the inside if they accept you.

>>25633

No clue.

I really don't understand the Baneposting, I've just heard someone use that reply for that comment before so I repeated like some kind of bloody parrot.

Gotta get up early tomorrow again, so I'm going to bed now. Good night /ttgg/.

>>25636

I seriously doubt I'll get the job, I don't have enough experience. They'll probably just turn down my application without asking for an interview.

Their requirements were a little strange, now that I think of it. The 'Gameplay Programmer" position only asked for experience in Lua, and the "Internal Tools Developer" had requirements more in line with a web developer. Both asked for 3+ years of industry experience of which I have none. Maybe I should cite my "years of experience" playing their games instead.

I mean, I've got nothing against Lua, and it's a better choice than many other scripting languages, but I wouldn't hire people based on their experience in such a specialized language. If you have experience in literally any other scripting language, Lua is a cakewalk to learn in a couple of hours.

>>25637

And so the cycle continues…

>>25638

Good night anon.

Why do pajamas have pockets? What could I possibly need to keep in my pockets while I sleep? One of life's great mysteries, I suppose.

Good night /ttgg/.

>>25640

>Clementine will never wake you up in the middle of the night to ask you this

Good night anon.

>Why do you think Tom is helping Mira?*

He wants to fugg

>Who do you think is the traitor?*

The mother. She might have been intimidated into giving information for Ryon's safety.

>What did you do to Gryff?*

Stud up to him every chance I got, knocked him down on his ass, didn't maim or hit him. Beating up guys while someone holds them down for you seems low. Plus, he is a hostage.

>Do you think Cotter is trustworthy?*

Yeah, but he might be dumb.

>Which of the protagonists do you think will be dead by the end?*

Gared, the north grove seems like too much of a game changer.

>How much longer do we have to wait before the next episode of TFTB?*

About a month.

>What do you think of Rodrik? How do you play him?

He's alright. I wish he really was crippled, that would have been more interesting to play. I play him as serious, truthful, ballsy and honorable.

>>25639

I can't understand why they would want people with experience, considering season 2 was made by people with little to no experience. Unless they actually realized that that was a mistake.

>>25640

Probably to make them feel similar to regular pants. Plus not everybody goes to sleep immediately after changing into their pajamas.

>you will never put something in Clementine's pajama pockets while she's sleeping and she wakes up with a surprise

>>25642

>The mother

I think this makes sense, after all she steps in if you keep beating Gryff.

>>25645

That's too bad about the job anon.

I think Clem would hit people out of disapproval rather than anger, like in the option to hit Luke.

TWD TV show season 2 > TWD game season 2

>>25646

Well, they still haven't said no to the Gameplay Programmer position.

I guess Clem hitting people in that way is understandable, but I'd prefer she not do it.

>>25647

That may be true, but that's not saying much for either of them.

Do you think TWD game will end with season 3? I think one of the reason it should is because making your choices matter from season 1 and beyond becomes increasingly more difficult with each new game released.

>>25649

I hope it ends period

>>25650

Me too. I'm just saying, better sooner than later.

>>25652

Good night anon, I wish you would've talked to us even if there wasn't much activity. Speaking of which, where is everybody? I hope it's just school that's keeping them away, and things pick up after it's over.

>>25653

I've been asleep most of the day. When I'm not asleep I'm probably playing Warband or something.

>>25649

No, not while the rest of the franchise is growing and expanding. New spin-off show, new game by Overkill, TV show probably going on for another 12 seasons, and a never-ending comic. Why cut off a branch that isn't withering (financially)? Kirkman and Skybound probably wouldn't let TTG end the series now either since they're under some contract.

I do want the series to end eventually but I want the ending to be thought of out far ahead of time and ending at S3 feels premature to me.

>because making your choices matter from season 1 and beyond becomes increasingly more difficult with each new game released.

"Matter" how exactly?

>>25655

>No, not while the rest of the franchise is growing and expanding

This is true sadly, it wouldn't make sense for them to stop the game when every other part of the franchise is still going strong. The problem with a series continuing forever just because it's popular is that it can drop in quality but still be successful, as season 2 of the game has proved. The series can also suffer from padding, and arguably already has, and with something as limited as zombies, there's no way to make things interesting without working towards rebuilding society, which Kirkman obviously doesn't want to do yet, or giving the zombies super powers, in which case they're not really zombies any more. As an example of what I'm talking about The Legend of Zelda series manages to still be good after all these years in part due to how each game offers a unique experience. There's a lot more to it than just "it's medieval, isn't it great?" Because TWD is a zombie franchise there's not that much potential for change and it runs the risk of getting stale if it goes on for too long, and again, has arguably already become stale. And because success is what keeps it going, it means that games will continue to be made regardless of actual quality.

>"Matter" how exactly?

By having things be different based on your choices. Season 2 is a bad example, but even that game had some dialogue be different based on your season 1 choices. I can't imagine things like that happening the longer the series continues. Not to mention how tedious it would be to see how things are different based on choices from older seasons. For example, playing through the first 4 games in a very specific way just to see how one specific scene in season 5 is different based on those choices.

>>25652

Good night anon.

>>25653

Well, you know what I'm up to. Real life stuff keeping me busy most of the day. I got a robocall from California today that for a second I thought was TTG calling me up. Almost scared the pants off of me, literally, because I was in the middle of putting on my belt.

>>25656

I know it's nice to have your decisions mean something, but if TWDG becomes a long-running series and making your decisions matter across multiple seasons is untenable, I'd rather each season just sort of wrap things up. A lot of people might accuse TTG of producing "movie games", but the narrative is most important to me. This doesn't mean that within a season your choices can't matter. Doug and Carley survived for quite a long time in S1, and each provides a unique experience, even though S1 basically ends in the same place regardless of your decision. I'd be okay with that kind of choice.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that TT shouldn't ever do this multiple ending thing again if they intend to keep producing TWDG. Have each season be its own little thing, with a definite beginning and end so everyone is satisfied, but perhaps branch out in the middle.

I dunno, really. I'm no writer. I suppose we can't really know which way is best until someone tries it.

How the fuck could Carlos not tell the difference between a dog bite and a human bite?

>>25658

Cause he's a quack.

I dunno, maybe he just didn't get a very good look at it. The last time they let a wounded survivor in, they turned and killed Nick's mom. So the group was already predisposed to turning her away, and the shed stunt was just to make sure it wasn't a zombie bite.

Still incredibly irresponsible, though. It would have taken less than a few seconds to check, and I don't really buy the stupid excuse of low medical supplies. What the fuck else are you gonna use medical supplies on if you won't use it on an open, possibly infected wound like that?

Screw those guys, as Clem would say.

>>25658

Probably got his medical license back in Mexico.

>>25660

You would not believe how many doctors and dentists there are across the border here. And people actually go to them, cause it's hella cheap.

You know, I bet a lot of Mexican doctors have seen some shit, what with all of the drug cartel violence going on down there. They might actually be better prepared to work during a zombie apocalypse.

Do we even know what kind of doctor Carlos was?

>>25656

>playing through the first 4 games in a very specific way just to see how one specific scene in season 5 is different based on those choices

That's never going to happen because it would be utterly insane and difficult. At best each new season will only take into account the decisions made in the previous one so it can alter little bits of dialogue. I'm totally fine with that because I don''t like the idea of some important scene being altered by a unrelated decision I made three years ago.

>>25658

Because drama, which isn't inherently a bad thing unless it's done as clumsily and blatantly as that was.

>>25659

Do you remember how the shed idea was supposed to work? Carlos wanted her locked in there for the whole night and then they'd check on her the next morning to see if she had a fever and therefore 'infected'? Am I wrong because I can immediately spot the inherent flaw in that plan and I'm not sure the writers did?

>>25660

>>25661

Mexican doctors are actually pretty comparable to American and Canadian doctors. Also I'm not totally sure why but I doubt Carlos was from Mexico.

>>25662

That was the most baffling part. Like holy shit do you not see how bad that cut is? She will definitely bleed to death by morning, or at the very least that cut will be infected to all hell. Why the fuck not help her now and then see if she has turned in the morning?

>>25662

>Do you remember how the shed idea was supposed to work?

I didn't remember that they were just gonna check for a fever. I thought they were gonna wait and see if she turned. Yeah, that's a pretty stupid plan, and a terrible way to treat someone either way.

>I doubt Carlos was from Mexico

Where do you think he's from?

>>25663

That's what I was saying, they had some lame excuse about not wanting to waste the medical supplies.

>>25658

He didn't want to help some random fucking kid in the woods so he thought of some bullshit to put her in a situation that would kill her.

It's not that hard. I'd probably do the same.

>>25666

Yes I'd let some random kid in the woods die. I don't know them, they have no relation to me, so they can die for all I care. I don't want to bring a potentially infected person into the house so that she's our problem if she wakes up and becomes a zombie. Hell no I'm not cleaning that up, she can stay in the shed and just die.

>>25665

Then why didn't he just send her off to die or declare her 'infected' and have her put down? Why keep her anywhere near the cabin where she could possibly break into?

>>25667

Watch that edge there anon. Obviously the majority of the cabin crew didn't want to let a kid die. It was only that shit tier character rebecca, and maybe carlos if you want to believe that theory.

>>25668

idk. Maybe he wanted to kill her but he also wanted to not make himself look like a complete asshole.

>>25668

Because then he'd appear to be some kind of monster, and what if his daughter found out? Besides, why would he think a wounded child could bust out of that shed?

>>25670

There's no indication he wanted to kill her and neither maliciousness or caution explain how illogical his plan was anyway. If it was made clear by the writing he was a selfish asshole I'd absolutely buy the "neglectful murder" angle but it isn't and it wouldn't even be consistent with his actions later. It's just bad writing, plain and simple.

>>25665

>>25667

Watch yourself with that edge, anon. You might cut yourself.

>>25672

Well a lot of people here are arguing it's because he's a dumb doctor.

>>25675

Flashlight incident?

>>25676

When Clem sees the flashlights of the people chasing the cabin group across the bridge, is unable to tell anyone about it first thing for some arbitrary reason, and then can finally tell Carlos who proceeds to do nothing with the information.

>>25664

I totally missed this somehow.

>Where do you think he's from?

The US. I have nothing to base this on except a feeling (I'm a Hispanic born in the US). Something about Carlos just feels off. It's probably just that he isn't voiced by an actual Mexican/Mexican-American.

>>25677

Ah, I didn't remember that.

>>25681

Resorting to lewd posting to try and revive this dead general, eh?

Oh boy, do I now regret going to bed early instead of checking the general.

>>25658

Bad writing, but I'm going with the dumb doctor explanation.

>>25661

>Do we even know what kind of doctor Carlos was?

A gynecologist.

>>25662

>I doubt Carlos was from Mexico.

Imagine if originally Carlos had a deep dark secret was that he wasn't really Spanish.

>>25665

>>25667

Oh god, it's you.

>>25666

Good night Satan.

>>25668

It won't happen, but if Clementine does bit, do you think she'd have someone put her down, or would she want to do it herself?

>>25681

Candy for a nickel? In this day and age? Please.

>>25682

Why not? What better time to do it than when there's no discussion going on? To be honest, I kinda miss them when go for so long without posting.

>>25684

>>25685

Spooky

>>25671

So I guess it was between looking like a monster, and looking like an idiot.

>>25678

I'm also Hispanic born in the US and I can kinda see what you mean. He certainly doesn't have an accent I'm familiar with, but that's probably just the VA trying to emulate one.

I'd say he was at least born and raised outside of the US. Otherwise, he wouldn't have such a pronounced accent. I don't have an accent despite my first language being Spanish.

Perhaps he was born and raised in some Hispanic country, but got his education in the US. That seems likely.

>>25681

Of course not. I'd have to seriously consider why Clem would be asking that in the first place.

>>25683

>A gynecologist

If that was true, I wonder how comfortable Alvin would have been letting him take a look at Rebecca because of the pregnancy and whatnot

>I kinda miss them

I gotta be honest, I do a little too. They're creative, I'll give 'em that, even if they're a bit crude.

>>25685

You might consider putting a soft light from below so there isn't such a harsh contrast.

>>25687

>I'm also Hispanic born in the US

Damn, the more I learn about you, the more we have in common.

>tfw can't speak Spanish

>I'd have to seriously consider why Clem would be asking that in the first place.

She learned it from Jane.

>I wonder how comfortable Alvin would have been letting him take a look at Rebecca

It's also a good thing he didn't want to "take a look" at Clem.

>You might consider putting a soft light from below

I did take a screenshot with my flashlight shining on her, but a soft light would be better.

>>25688

>It's also a good thing he didn't want to "take a look" at Clem.

You made me spit out my coffee.

>the more I learn about you

I thought I had mentioned that before, though. Parents grew up in Mexico, moved here to find work after the peso's massive inflation in the 80s.

I wonder where Clementine would want to travel in the world.

>you will never go backpacking across Europe with Clem

She could also go to Mexico to get a taco like Kenny suggested.

How would TWD play out if it took place in Mexico?

>>25689

>How would TWD play out if it took place in Mexico?

Well for one thing, Clem and co. would run into characters like the banditos from season 1 of TWD TV show.

When would you say you realized you loved Clementine or became a Clemfan? It's a broad question I know, but I've learned loving Clem's character means somewhat different things to different people and I want to know what it means to you.

>>25691

It's weird, but I actually didn't develop parental feelings for Clem during my first playthrough of TWD. I was into TWAU first and decided to play TWD because it was also made by telltale and because I wanted to be a part of this general without having to worry about spoilers. I got caught up with TWD (S2 Ep2 was the most recent at the time) and all the feelings I have for Clem now hit me all at once, I wished she was my daughter and wanted nothing more than to take care of her.

>>25692

I remember you saying you wondered what the fuss was all about. Would you say that after you finished S1 you were understood the "hype" and love for her Clem before your paternal feelings for her hit you?

>>25693

>*Would you say that after you finished S1 you understood the "hype" and love for Clem before your paternal feelings for her hit you?

ftfm

>>25693

>>25694

No, everything hit me at once after I got caught up, but I wouldn't say that I didn't understand it.

Power is out where I am for the past few hours. Posting from phone.

>>25691

I don't know. My feelings toward Clem are a bit complicated. I'd say I was a S1 Clemfan. I'm a little ashamed of it, but I thirsted for S2 Clem for a time. But then similarly to >>25692 something hit me all of a sudden. Maybe it was the realization that I actually want to be a father someday. I really don't know what it was exactly, but I don't thirst anymore. She represents an idealized daughter figure to me now while I try and make that dream a reality.

Don't have much to do with the power out so I suppose I'll sleep. Good night /ttgg/

>>25696

Wow, power came back just as I posted this. Praise Clem!

I still have to wake up early though, so I won't stick around.

>>25696

>>25697

Good night anon. As much as I hate my internet connection at home, I should at least be thankful that I have power. Speaking of which, does anyone feel somewhat like they're living in the apocalypse when they lose power?

>>25701

Let's be realistic here, the only thing that holds this place together is hope for TWD news. No other Telltale release/news will cut it. Unless we get SOMETHING from Telltale, this place is going down the swanny.

TL;DR We're fucked

>>25703

Well, we may be a little fucked in the way of lacking activity, but at least it's incredibly difficult for /ttgg/ to die here.

Borderlands would at least generate a little more discussion. TT seems to have it out for us in that regard, though.

TWD would certainly bring a lot of people back, and it's basically confirmed we're getting news about it in two weeks. Until then, all we can do is pass the time, and that's not so bad.

We should come up with a plan if a halfchan /ttgg/ thread crops up. Find some way to convince good users to come back here or something.

>>25704

Plan? People can post if they want, and not post if they don't want to. If people there complain that it was dead for so long, perhaps suggest they join us here.

>>25705

I'd be a bit more freaked out that she sounded 10 years younger than she was supposed to.

But to answer your question, I'd treat her like anyone else I might meet. It's not like she would actually be Clementine, so I don't think it's that weird.

>>25706

Yeah, I guess a plan would be too manipulative.

>>25705

A 21 year old that looked like an 11 year old? Why would I risk anyone finding out and not knowing that she was not 11 but in fact an adult?

Fuck no, anon. Fuck. No.

>>25707

>>25708

Oh wait, shit, I didn't read that she also looked 11.

Yeah, no fucking way.

>>25703

A screencap of Lee saying "we will make it through this" would be appropriate right now.

>>25704

Well the people on halfchan that won't post here are ether absolutely convinced that killing the thread over there was a conspiracy to get people to come here, are moralfags who think we're nothing but pedoposting, or are completely unaware of our existence. I can't imagine there's anything we can do to get any of those people to come here, and trying to could blow up in our faces.

>>25706

Like I said, most of the people who hate us think we conspired to kill the thread other there. Even suggesting that people join us is only going to be met with negative reactions.

>>25707

When you said "plan" I didn't think you meant anything manipulative.

>>25708

Wait, so you're saying you wouldn't do it because she's an adult?

>>25710

…maybe

I said "not knowing", meaning that people would think she's 11.

>>25696

If it's not too personal I've been meaning to ask why you thirsted for S2 Clem to begin with. S2 Clem thirst is something I've never been able to really get, especially when the people thirsting for her knew S1 Clem first. Wasn't that weird for you when you realized you did?

>>25705

No.

>>25710

>or are completely unaware of our existence

I'm certain that when the DLC and S3 roll around people will become aware of this board by sheer osmosis. By then most people on halfchan will likely be newbies and unfamiliar with /ttgg/ "history".

>all these liars saying they wouldn't wreck a Clem lookalike

>>25712

At the time, I saw S1 Clem and S2 Clem as different people, really. I don't think it's hard to see why, they're characterized very differently. As for why I thirsted, it was nothing about her in particular. I watch and download almost every bit of fap material that's out there. I even have backups of ExHentai's tags and metadata. Clementine just happened to be a character from a game I played.

It's a bit weird for me looking back now, but I suppose I'm a bit of a weird person in the first place, so it's not too unusual

>>25713

I probably sound like an ad for a beauty product, but age isn't just a number. I personally think that hypothetical is going a little too far, but I won't hold anyone against it.

>>25713

Like I said, it's mainly/only because other people might find out. If there was no chance of that, it would be an entirely different story.

>>25714

I can get that actually, even if I still don't get the appeal of S2 Clem lewd. I sort of explained it before but I compartmentalize Clem into different characters which is part of why I can thirst after a hypothetical adult Clem and still have paternal feelings for S1 Clem. I guess that makes me a weird person too. I blame Tae.

>>25715

Or you (or her) could explain her physical development was stunted and that she was in fact an adult woman? It's not like sort of thing exists only in science fiction.

>>25714

It sounds to me like you didn't actually thirst for Clem, but rather you had no problem with fapping to her until your feelings for her changed.

Game of Thrones in a half an hour for those inclined to watch it.

>>25720

I feel you, man. I just need to figure out a way around my VPS provider's little watchdog process and maybe I can stream again.

Hell, I can't even watch Silicon Valley afterwards anymore, either.

>>25721

I suppose I could always torrent the episodes and watch them myself just to get caught up, but it's not the same as watching it with anons.

>>25722

I'll try and figure something out this week, maybe I can stream the episodes we missed.

No promises, though.

Tonight's episode of GoT was damn good. We finally got to see what the white walkers and the army of the dead are capable of.

They're zombies that can wield weapons led by ice-demons

>>25724

I had to read that spoiler, I couldn't resist.

Sounds pretty awesome.

>tfw TWD survivors will never co-exist with zombies like in Shaun of the Dead

>Clementine will never lead a zombie army

>>25726

Is that Clem in the top left? Looks like she's getting a little rough around the edges, but at least she led quite a fulfilling life.

Diana totally looks like Clem 2.0. Did you have any say in choosing her over her other siblings to marry off to Nicolas? Also, France being ruled by an Everett will still be France, right? It won't be part of Clementonia so you won't have direct control, but obviously you would have very good relations with it.

Looks like something's wrong with my GoT installation so I suppose I'll play Vicky 2 in your honor.

Also, you have no idea how patriotic I feel right now. Your Clementonia is kicking ass, both open carry and campus carry passed in Texas this weekend, and the Patriot act is on its last legs. Fuckin' 'merica. I don't have the Kenny flag image, but if I did, I'd post it.

>>25728

I was thinking of the one where he's holding AJ, but that works too.

>a single person can hold more than one kingdom title

But I assume you can only ever control Clementonia, right?

Also, I finished the majority of the Vicky II tutorials. I wanna git gud before I try making a… Clemilization? Raise my odds of success.

You mentioned Vicky II has some good DLC? I know Paradox DLC is easy to pirate, should I just get everything, or do you think I might get overwhelmed? Keep in mind that this is my first grand strategy game. I can hold my own in Civ, Anno or Total War, but it might take a while for me to get the hang of this.

Speaking of strategy games, I played Settlers of Catan with two of my visiting cousins earlier today. It's pretty good as far as casual little board games go.

I imagined playing against Clem, and prioritized being a nice person that traded fairly and didn't stab anyone in the back. I still managed to win once, it was nice.

>you will never play board games with Clem, sharing snacks and arguing over interpretations of the rules

>>25731

Oh okay, I didn't realize you had an actual player character in CK2. I thought you controlled only one title at a time or whatever. That's pretty neat.

The tutorials were pretty helpful, they at least tell you what all of the buttons and icons do and mean, so that's one hurdle cleared. Thanks for the guide, though.

Aww, TellTale games just crash when I try to run them on multiple monitors. Figures.

They need a programmer like me to fix that

Suppose I'll sleep now. Good night /ttgg/.

>>25733

Good night anon.

>>25733

Kek. Good night anon.

>>25736

That image looks somewhat lewd, but not quite in rule 34 territory.

The only 3D LiS r34 I've seen is futanari

>>25738

Hi there anon. What would you like to talk about?

>>25740

I haven't done anything interesting or productive this weekend really, I just listened to podcasts, audiobooks, and played games all mostly related to WW1 which I've taken a recent interest in. How was your day so far?

>>25742

So how did you first get into TWDG? Did you play any Telltale games before that?

>>25744

I discovered it when an lp group I used to follow played the whole game back in 2012. I didn't actually play the game myself until last year when S2 reinvigorated my interest in it. It was the first TT game I played. Sorry it took a while for me to respond, I fell asleep because I was tired.

>>25745

Good morning anon. Hope you get better soon.

>>25738

I told you you should post here again.

>>25740

How come you haven't played GOT episode 4? Remember you can always talk to me if you need to.

>>25743

I might as well answer this again since there's nothing else being discussed. I originally was only interested in TWAU. I watched my cousin play the first episode of TWAU and TWD S2 on the same night, and while TWD S2 seemed like the better game at the time, I liked TWAU more for some reason. I wanted to participate in the thread after getting caught up with TWAU, but I was new to 4chan at the time and couldn't find the thread. Luckily the friend who introduced me to both the game and the general pointed me in the right direction. Even though I initially wanted to be apart of the thread because of TWAU, I noticed there was a lot of TWD discussion too, and I ended up getting the Clementine hostage situation spoiled for me. I decided to avoid the general for a few days as I got caught up with TWD and well, here I am today. The only other Telltale game I played before that was Tales of Monkey Island, and that was only because I was a fan of the series.

>>25747

Oh, and I also played the Poker Night games to get the TF2 items.

Man, that medicine I took is really good, but it knocks you the hell out. Feeling much better now, at least.

>>25751

That's much better, good work anon.

You know, I wish the SFM model had better textures. The neck seam is really annoying, and I wish the little black accent line things were higher-res and sharper like in-game.

Would Leland have been a better PC than Bonnie in 400 days?

How about S2, would he have been a better fit as a survivor at Howe's? I've always been of the opinion that Bonnie felt out of place there.

Ignore the fact that Shel's group might have found out about Dee stealing their supplies.

>>25754

I'm kinda ignoring the first part of your question, but I wonder how the Bonnie kills Dee part would've been had you been playing as Leland. Rather than having to choose to tell the truth or lie, you have to decide whether or not you think Bonnie is telling the truth about what happened.

It's hard for me to imagine Leland in Bonnie's in season 2, for one thing it would be easier to distrust him upon finding him at the ski lodge, and I ultimately don't think he'd be any better of a character than Bonnie was.

I actually like how the 400 Days stories are indirectly related to one another, yet the characters don't seem to be aware of it. Bonnie doesn't seem to know that it's Shel's group that Dee stole from, and Russell and Wyatt both encountered Nate, but don't know that.

>>25755

>you have to decide whether or not you think Bonnie is telling the truth

That would actually be kinda neat. There should be more decisions like that in TWD. There's plenty of times where you have to decide if someone's lying in TWAU, which I really liked.

I suppose I should clarify my opinion of Bonnie in S2. Bonnie just doesn't really seem the type that would work too well in a community like Howe's, and certainly not someone that they'd send along in a search party. I mean think about it, how would she ever become someone Carver would trust enough to do that, on the same level as Troy and that other guy? She turns on him way too easily, I'd think Carver would have the sense to see she might do something like that.

Also, what do you think was in the bag Dee stole from Shel's group? What could possibly be so important?

>>25756

Well in Shel's story Roman says that the last time someone stole from them it was more than they could afford to lose. I'm guessing it was medical supplies and shit, and the importance behind it was not so much what was taken, but how much was taken.

>>25757

>medical supplies

>"medical" supplies

What if Shel's group was actually a drug running operation, and that bag was their next payment to the Ruskis from S2? But Dee stole that bag and planned to leave it around for Bonnie to OD on or something? Maybe the Ruskis were the ones that killed them at the river after some feud, not Carver

While I'm making these crazy speculations, why don't I involve S1? I might have my timeline mixed up, but what if this entire drug running operation was somehow related to the remaining Save-Lots bandit that didn't get shot in S1? Or maybe Roman was also one of these bandits at some point.

I'd actually like to know if there's any holes in this theory.

>>25758

I see the Save-Lots bandits as being more of a rival group to Roman's group than Roman being one of them. Maybe the guy they captured was working for Save-Lots bandits. As farfetched and crazy as these theories might be, they at least make more sense than season 2's writing.

>>25759

I know we've discussed banditry before, but I find it quite interesting.

I wonder how common banditry would actually be in the ZA. TWD is incredibly inconsistent in how often survivor groups seem to run into each other. Sometimes, it seems that there's loads of groups and gangs all over the place (some parts of S1, 400 days is kinda based on this notion), and other times not so much. Since banditry relies on taking other people's stuff, I imagine it would be most prevalent in areas with a lot of survivors they could prey upon.

Another thing is how bandit groups would manage to survive or recruit new members. Such a high-risk endeavor would likely result in the death of group members, since your opponents are almost always armed humans and not slow, shambling zombies. Who would replace them? Would some survivors turn to banditry out of desperation, or would banditry just die out after the initial groups died off? I bet a lot of bandit groups would have formed from pre-existing groups before the ZA, such as criminal gangs or groups of just plain unsavory people like the Save-Lots bandits.

>>25761

>Yvette with a sane haircut

I can dig this.

>>25763

Good morning anon. I hope you have a nice day today.

>>25763

Good evening anon. Sorry I took so long to reply. The thread was dead so I decided to play Bioshock when I got home. I'm here now if you want to talk, though keep in mind that my connection is unreliable.

>4.8GB update for SFM

Welp, guess I'm not doing SFM anytime this month.

>>25765

I'd appreciate some input on >>25760 if you don't mind. I was discussing this with a few friends while playing CS:GO, I'll post our opinions tomorrow.

Good night /ttgg/.

>>25766

>>25760

I think how common banditry would be in the ZA would depend on where you are. People from areas with a high crime rate would be more likely to resort to it than people from peaceful areas. I wish TWD, or at least the game, was more realistic in it's deceptions of the ZA. I'm not just talking about season 2's contrived writing, but things like Danny St. John being a pedophile, and Ben being forced to watch a student get raped, getting cut from the game. Sorry to say, but these things would happen in the ZA, and I think the game could benefit from portraying it more realistically, rather than leaving things like that out because it might be too "extreme" or controversial for most people. I imagine bandits wouldn't look for new members, as they'd barely be able to trust eachother. A group of survivors that doesn't rely on banditry to get by would have to be cautious about adding new people, but I think they'd be more willing to do so than straight up bandits.

You should leave your computer on overnight so the update would download sooner.

>>25768

No

>>25767

Well, that's the price of trying to appeal to such a wide audience. I wonder if the comics get away with more serious themes like that. If someone that reads the comics is here, please enlighten us.

In regards to banditry depending on region, I realized that the American south is actually a pretty good setting for this. The relatively low population density (at least outside of cities) and the somewhat common availability of firearms or other impromptu weapons would give survivors a fighting chance against the zombies in the early days of the outbreak. This would also provide ample pickings for possible bandit groups to prey upon.

I discussed this topic with a few people yesterday, and we looked at DayZ as a case study. It's not that great of an example since, being a video game, people don't have the same risk assessment strategy as in real life. However, we noted that there's two main types of banditry, which would probably translate at least somewhat to the real world. First, there's coastal bandits, who pick on new spawns. New spawns are a very low threat to someone who's armed and are often alone. However, they tend to scavenge supplies like food and water that are absolutely necessary for survival, something a bandit also clearly needs. I kind of imagine Russel being like one of these new spawns. He was a minor threat, and might have had something useful in that bag if Nate had bothered to rob him. This kind of banditry would probably be common in the early days of the outbreak, when people still hadn't formed big groups and honed their survival instincts.

Then there's the inland bandits, which hang around military installations and other areas that hold more valuable loot. These people tend to be more organized and well-equipped, and often work in groups. But their targets are also better equipped, and as such, choose tactics like traps and ambushes that give them the upper hand. The Save-Lots bandits are sort of like this, although not very well organized. Carver would sort of fit this, but his main objective is to subjugate people, not just rob them, same with the Governor. A serious threat would be a bandit group that could overpower small groups or communities. Alexandria (from the show) seemed to be ripe for this kind of thing; all of the residents were disarmed and they relied entirely on the wall for defense, which would be ineffective against a human opponent.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with all of this, but I'm just pointing out some facts and observations.

>>25768

Hey man, some of us have things to do. I post when I can.

How ironic that you'd choose a picture of Luke for that statement.

>>25769

Yes

>>25771

Post screenshots and any comments or insight you might have, I'd love to hear that.

>>25780

>Funny how people made a big deal about GoT and Borderlands having multiple PCs when Sam & Max basically did it years before.

Well outside of when you can choose dialogue from ether Sam or Max you never actually control Max. He wanders around aimlessly during gameplay but it's fine because if he gets in your way Sam just smacks him away and keeps walking to whatever you clicked on.

>I don't think I've ever seen that word used outside of the context of a chan or similar.

I have, since I've interacted with people who actually are autistic.

>you will never watch cartoons with Clementine

>>25781

It's funny how GOT is known for it's nudity yet there isn't any in the Telltale game despite there being tits in TWAU.

>How much of a traditional adventure game would you say it is as opposed to a narrative-heavy adventure game?

It's a completely traditional point and click adventure game, but with a driving segment. There is an overarching plot obviously, but I've only played the first episode so I don't know how heavy the focus is on the story in later episodes yet. For some reason the fourth episode of season 1 is free on Steam, though you'll probably want to avoid spoilers if you're seriously thinking of playing the first season.

>>25780

>I don't think I've ever seen that word used outside of the context of a chan or similar. Weird.

Given this game was made back before autistic became popular as an internet insult they're probably using the word more 'correctly'.

>nice dream

I wish I had clear cozy dreams like yours. My dreams are often just collections of chopped scenes or images accompanied with feelings of dread or discombobulation. It's like they're directed by an arthouse film student going through an existential crisis.

>>25781

>and the overabundance of goods and resources that would be left behind

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this opinion. The only difficulty in scavenging after the ZA is the zombies, but once you find someplace with food, you're set for weeks or even months. It's one of the reasons I often wonder what survivors do in their free time, since I imagine they have a lot of it.

>and then became active all at once

Yeah, that's my theory, too. Never mind that it hardly makes any sense.

It would be cool if there was something specific that made the latent virus activate. Something about the climate or whatever.

Actually no, that would be really lame. The Happening levels of lame.

>>25782

>if he gets in your way Sam just smacks him away and keeps walking

Oh man, I'd like to see this.

>there isn't any in the Telltale game despite there being tits in TWAU

That is odd now that you mention it. Perhaps TT doesn't think they should risk it in GoT since it's a bigger name than TWAU.

>>25783

>I wish I had clear cozy dreams like yours

The clearest dreams for me are the lucid ones, since I can consciously control them. The clarity of my non-lucid dreams varies wildly by day, so I sometimes get disorienting weird dreams, too. I just don't tend to remember them as well because they're so outlandish and hard to follow.

>>25785

Just thirteen more days. I'm honestly not sure whether I feel hyped or worried over this. At least it'll be something for /ttgg/ to feast on.

>I'm gonna miss the live stream

That sucks. Congrats to your brother though.

>>25784

>It's one of the reasons I often wonder what survivors do in their free time, since I imagine they have a lot of it.

Do you think some kind of post-ZA culture would emerge?

>Never mind that it hardly makes any sense.

That's why I pretty much prefer they never delve into the infection's origin. A day one pandemic works fine for the setting and themes of this franchise but trying to explain how it happened would steer too close to weird science-fiction.

>>25782

>>25784

How likely do you think it is we'll see any kind of nudity in TWDG?

>>25788

I'm just kind of anxious whether S2's quality is a sign of things to come. There's also this nagging part of my brain that wonders if it's actually DLC news we're getting at E3 or if it is whether that DLC will be about Clem at all. Maybe I'm just being irrational.

>how would the ZA change how people think in general?

Man this is such a broad that could be answered in many interesting ways but the franchise doesn't seem to delve much on it outside of survival. If we're talking people around S2's time there would be a lot feelings of nihilism and disillusionment regarding fate of the human race. I need to think more about this.

>>25789

Good night. Hopefully things pick up.

>>25784

>Perhaps TT doesn't think they should risk it in GoT since it's a bigger name

Not sure what they're risking though, it's something that GOT is known for and is likely expected. If anything they're taking a risk by leaving it out.

>>25785

I feel you. I'm not even gonna be awake when it happens. I hope this doesn't delay the next Borderlands episode even further though.

>>25787

>How likely do you think it is we'll see any kind of nudity in TWDG?

Never. Not even from the shoulders up nudity like in the TV show.

>>25788

Oh yeah, the flayed man. Supposedly they aren't supposed to do that anymore after they got their arses handed to them by the Starks of Winterfell, but apparently they still do in hidden parts of the Dreadfort.

>>25789

Good night anon. Hopefully we can talk later.

>>25790

>I'm just kind of anxious whether S2's quality is a sign of things to come

Same. Even if Borderlands is good and GOT is getting better, I still don't think that telltale will do a good job with TWD, and I feel that they don't see any reason to improve from the last season. For me, the DLC will determine whether or not if we can actually look forward to S3 as an improvement or if it'll just be more of the same.

>>25793

I thought you were >>25773 and >>25789

I'll post some more screenshots of Sam & Max that I missed taking my first time playing.

>>25790

>whether that DLC will be about Clem at all

It's possible it won't focus on her specifically, but I highly doubt she won't be involved at all. I can't think of any plotline besides a completely new one (like 400 days, and I don't think they'll repeat that) that wouldn't involve her in some way.

>Maybe I'm just being irrational

Not really, but like >>25795 says, at least we can use the DLC to judge whether or not TWDG has improved since S2. It doesn't hurt to be optimistic!

>>25792

>hidden parts of the Dreadfort

Funny, because that flayed man (zed) in KF2 is located in a "hidden" basement below a huge mansion. First time I went in there, I was genuinely unsettled. Spooky.

>>25793

>it's silly and cliche

I don't think it's any worse than all the other explanations offered. The whole concept of a zombie virus is silly and cliche anyways, and they went even farther with the part about the CDC in the show.

I did sleep well. I hope you had a nice day too, anon.

>>25795

>I thought you were

I kind of did that on purpose, actually. It was his question originally.

>>25798

>every_death_scene_in_twd.png

>>25802

I never watched Spongebob very much, I found him annoying as a kid

>>25803

Apparently the Boltons used to flay their enemies and fucking wear their skin.

Honestly, I don't even remember watching cartoons at all as a kid, let alone Spongebob.

Fuck, I can't remember anything I did before the age of 7 Which is coincidentally when my parents split up, Hrm.

>>25804

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that the Aztecs would sometimes flay people, then put the flayed skin on others and soak it with lime and leave them in the sun. The lime and sun would make the skin shrink and squeeze them to death.

Not a pretty way to go.

>>25805

Squeeze people to death? I would've thought that the skin would break and tear first.

>>25806

You're probably right. I don't know where I heard it so it's probably a myth.

Completely unrelated tangent:

I had some great tea this morning on one anon's suggestion. Would Clem prefer coffee or tea? What flavor?

>>25807

I think as an Englishman I pretty much have to say "Tea" and "English Breakfast".

>>25807

I think she'd prefer tea, but ether way I wouldn't let her drink coffee until I thought she could handle it.

>>25808

I was disappointed in my local supermarket's selection of tea, it was either some fruity flavored stuff, iced tea mix (Texans love their iced tea), or Earl Grey. I'd like to try a breakfast tea sometime.

>>25809

>until I thought she could handle it

Don't you think that's a little overprotective? It's not like it's alcohol or some hard drug…

So Fallout 4 trailer came out today.

How would TWD be different if it was a postnuclear apocalypse series instead?

>>25810

>Don't you think that's a little overprotective?

Maybe, but it's not like coffee is good for her anyway.

>>25811

This seems similar to when I asked how different TWD would be if it were an environmental apocalypse. I actually would like to see very much how Clem would handle living in such conditions. I'll actually answer this question once I get a better connection.

>>25812

I'm curious as to why you think coffee is bad. I guess if it becomes a habit, maybe.

>I'll actually answer this question once I get a better connection.

I'd like to read that. I sort of realized after posting that a nuclear apocalypse would lack zombies. Maybe similarly to the Fallout universe, you could have zombie-like creatures (ghouls) that would take the place of TWD zombies. Or maybe something completely different, who knows.

For now, I should get some sleep. Good night /ttgg/

>>25815

I really hope it was just for the trailer.

>>25810

English Breakfast tea is pretty much the tea literally everyone drinks here. Maybe see if your local supermarket has an international section, it might be there.

The only other breakfast tea I've had was some Russian shit whilst I was in Austria, it was subpar at best.

>>25811

Postnuclear or Fallout based? Either way, there'd be a lot of rape and radiation poisoning.

>>25811

You'd probably find Clem after her parents were killed by raiders or something, you'd have to spend a lot more time making sure she doesn't get raped.

>>25815

Christ I really hope the protag isn't going to be fully voiced. The trailer seemed pretty weak to me, still not sure what region the game is taking place in. Kinda liked that custom power armor at the end though, always did like the look of T-45D power armor.

>>25817

what region the game is taking place in

Boston.

>>25818

Cool. Looking forward to finally seeing what the institute is all about.

I wonder what it'd be like if TTG made a Fallout game. Obviously it wouldn't be open world.

>>25815

What if you play as the dog?

I'd play that.

>>25816

>there'd be a lot of rape and radiation poisoning

Fallout nukes are actually pretty low yield, and are more similar to dirty bombs than anything. Actual thermonuclear war wouldn't result in as much radioactive fallout as Fallout envisions.

I'd really like to see a postnuclear apocalypse game, but not one like Fallout where the Vaults were there to repopulate. This could turn out pretty similar to TWD, since a nuclear holocaust would kill almost everyone on the planet and there would be small pockets of survivors. Areas of high radiation would act like more permanent area denial than zombie hordes.

>>25820

You mean like a Fallout Fallout game? It could be pseudo-open world, with you traveling to different locations to trigger different parts of the story. Most Fallout games don't really follow a strict linear story, and have ample room to switch up the middle parts of the story.

I think it might turn out similar to the cancelled Fallout movie. I honestly wouldn't mind if they just remade Fallout 1 as an interactive story where you go get the water chip and whatnot.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_film_treatment

Maybe depending on your dialogue choices, you'd gain stats or something, and could make later decisions based on checks against those stats, perhaps with likelihood of success appearing on the choices. Would that be too cumbersome? I think something like that might actually work, it would be a more visible form of your choices' consequences. Do you think that would be good?

>>25813

Alright, to be honest I haven't been exposed to much post-nuclear apocalypse media, but based on what I have seen, food and resources would be even more scarce than in the ZA, and banditry would likely be even more rampant. I'm gonna go with this >>25817 anon's idea for how Clem and Lee meet, and bandits/raiders would be the threat of the game rather than zombies.

>>25821

>Maybe depending on your dialogue choices, you'd gain stats or something, etc.

That sounds like it'd be great, but there's no way in hell Telltale would put that much thought and effort into it.

>>25821

It would probably be like a mix and mash of TWD and TFTBL with a Fallout theme. Grim but with humour in places.

>>25822

>bandits/raiders would be the threat of the game rather than zombies

It's already kinda that way in TWD really. The two series aren't as dissimilar as I initially thought.

>there's no way in hell Telltale would put that much thought and effort into it.

If you break it down, it's really no more complicated than offering dialog choices based on money like in TftB. They could totally pull it off.

However, I suppose it might be a little frustrating to be locked out of certain dialogue choices because of your stats. Then again, that would reinforce the character you've been playing as, and would prevent problems like in S2 where Clem could basically have bipolar disorder.

>>25823

Fallout has plenty of good humor in places that I think TT could emulate pretty well. Like you said, it shares a lot in common with TftB (the humor especially), and the heavier parts would be more like TWD. Fallout does have some pretty dark themes once in a while.

>>25813

>I'm curious as to why you think coffee is bad.

I just realized I forgot to answer this. I don't think coffee is bad, just not healthy for kids to drink, especially in habit.

>>25836

>Sorry

No need to apologize anon, I was just kidding.

>It's a good thing Clem's fictional

This on the other hand is blasphemy.

Good night /ttgg/.

>>25838

What the fuck.

>>25839

>Would Clem align with the NCR, Legion, House, or Yes Man?

You're gonna have to explain this to me because I don't know what you're talking about.

>I still don't understand why you don't think it's healthy

Well, I guess if she really wanted it, to see what it's like, I could always give her decaf.

>>25840

Good night anon.

>>25839

True to Caesar.

>>25839

Clem seems idealistic enough to go for independence.

>>25841

>You're gonna have to explain this to me

Clearly you've never played Fallout New Vegas. In it, there's 3 main factions you can align with. The NCR is the New California Republic, which strives for democracy but is also marred by red tape and corruption. Caesar's Legion is based on the Roman empire, complete with slavery, subservient women, and melee-only weapons. Robert House is like an entrepreneur that would like to control the New Vegas region himself because he believes neither party is suitable. Yes Man is kinda spoilers, but essentially he allows you to take the place of House and control New Vegas yourself independently. This is all phrased in terms of who takes control of the Hoover Dam.

>>25842

I didn't mean to imply anything, I just made that edit for fun. Clem would never join the Legion.

>>25844

Perhaps, but I can also see her working with the NCR to rectify its problems. She would at least want to keep them as close allies.

>>25839

I missed selling people into slavery in NV. I hope we get to be Fallout 3 levels of edgy in the next game.

>>25845

>Clearly you've never played Fallout New Vegas

Nope, haven't played any Fallout games. I just keep finding new ways to embarrass myself now don't I? I think she'd want to run things her own way.

Thankfully I had another dream about Clementine. It's really nice to have another one about her so soon after my last one. We were at Carver's compound, the parking lot was empty, barely any walkers around so the group decided to make a break for it. Someone got left behind just as we were all at the gate. Yeah, there was a gate on the outer perimeter of the parking lot in my dream. Anyway we went back for them and we ended up getting caught by Carver and his gang. Kenny was in his season 1 appearance for some reason and AJ was somehow already born. When we all got back to the camp Carver approached Clementine like he was about to beat her, I intercepted him and was ready to take the beating for her but he literally just slapped me on the wrist and told me to get back to work. One of the other workers asked what did Carver do to me, I told him and he couldn't believe it. I didn't know what work I was supposed to be doing, I looked at some charts for something I didn't understand, but then I realized it looked similar to how kilobytes, megabytes, terabytes, etc. worked, and that gave me confidence that I could do it. Then I wake up because somebody that I live with just couldn't be bothered to wait until I was awake to ask me something.

>>25848

>Interesting how your dreams tend to follow TWD lore

I do try to come up with my own stories involving the characters, so that could be the reason why, and I can always use these dreams as inspiration for even more stories. What's interesting to me is that although the things that happen in my dreams make sense, there's never a clear reason for why things happen the way they do. Why was the group able to suddenly leave without any resistance? Why weren't any of the guards shooting at them once they made it outside? Why did Carver only slap my hand when I stopped him from beating Clementine? What's even weirder is that I felt like I knew what was going to happen when the group was in the parking lot, as if I had experienced it before.

>do you mean the same group we saw in S2

Yup, same group. As for who got left behind, it's hard to say. I think it was Sarita but at the same time it looked like she was among everyone else. Even during the dream she seemed to be in two places at once.

>>25849

I'm surprised you don't participate in the RP, considering how much you seem to like thinking up these stories. Perhaps because you prefer to work with already established characters?

As for your dreams not making some sense, a lot of that kind of thing doesn't hold up very well under close inspection. Have you ever talked to Clementine one-on-one in a dream?

I wonder what Clem dreams about besides food

>>25850

I've actually just never had any interest in the RP, although I do prefer to work with already established characters. Speaking of the RP I wish those guys would post here.

>Have you ever talked to Clementine one-on-one in a dream?

I haven't had a conversation with her if that's what you mean. The most I've ever done is question her and then wake up only moments later.

>>25851

Well, if you ever converse with her, I'd like to know what it's like. Because it's strange for me, she seems to have her own thoughts and ideas completely independent of mine, or at least it seems that way to me. For example, she's the one that suggested building a couch fort. I never thought, willed to happen, or suggested that myself. Conversations with her are as interesting as with an actual person since she has her own, different opinions. It really feels as if she's another person inside my head, and this is consistent across both lucid and non-lucid dreams.

Maybe I am turning schizophrenic after all.

Also, that game some other anon suggested by the guy that made Deadly Premonition, D4, is out on PC now.

I have spoken to Clementine many times, she has told me that no little girl is as cute as she is and to therefore cleanse the world of all others. Her will be done.

>>25850

>I wonder what Clem dreams about besides food

thick cocks in all of her holes

>>25859

holy shit

>>25856

If you want to dream about Clem, try just thinking about her a little before going to bed.

I think I'll keep her luck and reduce endurance instead, everything else sounds good.

>sex appeal

Never change, anon.

>>25859

Well she certainly doesn't seem to be enjoying it…

>>25862

I'm still here, I just don't have anything to post about.

>>25855

For traits, jinxed.

>>25856

>why would Carver start beating Clem, if this plan wasn't even her idea and has no implication it would be hers.

That's another thing I didn't understand. Maybe he thought it was her idea or she organized the whole thing or something.

>>25862

I have to agree, this place is more empty than the hub worlds in Sonic Boom. Where is everybody?

>>25864

Like I just said, there's nothing to post about so nobody's here. It's that simple.

>>25865

Then why don't I just go off on a random tangent to see if that's really the reason why noone's posting. I'm probably the most unreasonably forgiving person in this general. There are a lot of characters in TWD games that I don't dislike, despite them being unlikable characters. I don't dislike Ben, Lilly or the St. Johns, and I don't dislike Nick or Mike. Hell I don't even dislike the stranger or Jane. Ben is a fuckup, but he means well, and realizes his mistakes. While I don't like her dad, I don't dislike Lilly because I can at least understand why she is the way she is, and she's actually a little nicer too you if you side with her in the meatlocker. I can't really explain why I don't dislike the St. Johns. Yeah they were cannibals, but could they really be considered bad people without that aspect about them? The stranger did kidnap Clementine, but I also felt bad for him. That doesn't mean I forgvie him for what he did, but still. While Nick is easy to dislike in episode 1, he ends up being too unimportant in the story to really stay mad at. Episode 1 Rebecca is more dislikeable than episode 1 Nick in my opinion. As heartless as it is for Mike to want to abandon 2 kids with no supplies, I can't bring myself to get that mad at him for it. I know I should hate Jane for what she did in the ending alone, but not even that makes me want to hate her. Maybe it's because she wasn't unlikeable before that or because I got the good ending my first time playing or something.

>>25863

Understandable. I really hope we get something substantial during E3. It sucks that I won't be able to follow it live with you guys, though. The best I'll probably be able to do is post from my phone. Would anyone here like to volunteer to give a summary of the conference when it's done?

>>25864

Jinxed would make sense given how inept people around Clem tend to be, but more critical failures for Clem doesn't really fit. Maybe I'll increase her Luck to offset that penalty. Luck is basically Plot Armor: The Stat.

>>25865

Well, at least 4 people are here, just not posting. In fact, it's surprising that y'all replied so quick.

>>25866

Maybe you should grow a pair.

Nah, but I can see where you're coming from. The only people I hate with a burning passion are people directly responsible for causing any pain or suffering to Clem. Read my response below to the other anon, do you think you'd characterize yourself like that?

>could they really be considered bad people without that aspect about them?

So you're saying that had they not been cannibals, they might be good people? I think I can agree with that, actually.

>>25868

>You empathize too much

Well, it seems like he knows the reasons some characters might be disliked, and may actually make calmer, more rational decisions than someone that blindly hates some character like me. I'd want someone like that in the ZA, honestly. A voice of reason.

Also, Barcelona won against Juventus. Suck it, Italy.

>>25870

I said "nice", not "retarded".

>>25870

>boy did I regret that

Perhaps, but that wasn't a bad decision in and of itself. One could argue Lilly pulled the trigger on accident in the heat of the moment, just like my controversial opinion that Arvo could have done the same. I guess it just boils down to giving people the benefit of the doubt. But that can turn out pretty dangerous, especially in the ZA.

What about Ben, for example? Do you think he ever redeemed himself for his previous failures? Do you try and look at him objectively say "Okay, he angered the bandits at the motel, didn't protect Clementine, and let the walkers into Crawford" and try to balance those things out with positives? At what point do you draw the line?

>>25872

It's pretty hard to pull the trigger of a rifle when you're a kid. You have to put some conscious effort into it.

>>25859

I've noticed a lack of porn lately. Is the golden age over?

>>25872

Forgot to add, you mentioned in >>25866 that

>Ben is a fuckup, but he means well, and realizes his mistakes

But he was almost actively detrimental to the group sometimes. What do you do with a person like that? How can they contribute without fucking things up even more?

>>25873

Your run-of-the-mill Winchester model 70, which seems to be the rifle they use in the game, has a trigger pull of about 1 to 4 pounds. That isn't much, and Arvo isn't really a kid.

>>25874

Perhaps r34 authors have lost interest.

For better or for worse, I'm sure you'll get more with S2 DLC and S3.

>>25874

I think so, though I have some a couple SFM animators who've abandoned making webm's to produce virtual reality stuff for things like the oculus rift, though I haven't seen any of it made for clewd.

>>25875

>S2 DLC

I haven't even kept up with this. Is it actually gonna be about Clem or is it just gonna be another 400 days thing.

>>25877

>I haven't even kept up with this

We'll find out in about a week >>25785

>>25872

>One could argue Lilly pulled the trigger on accident in the heat of the moment

She kills Doug on accident but not because of an accidental trigger pull, but because she wanted to shoot Ben. And if you have Carley with you, Lilly shoot her on purpose.

>Do you think he ever redeemed himself for his previous failures?

No, but I think he could've if he lived longer.

>>25874

The model was made for the sole purpose of making porn, so of course there was going to be a flood of it when it first came out. Now that it's been more than a year think(?) it's died down. There'll be a flood of it again once the DLC comes out, as peoples interest in the games will be reinvigorated.

>>25875

>What do you do with a person like that?

It's hard for me to kill a person who, despite being a detriment, isn't maliciously intentioned. If it got to the point where they continued to be detrimental, and did nothing to improve themselves, the most I'd do is abandon them. Because I don't want to kill them, but I can't have them around ether.

>>25875

>For better or for worse, I'm sure you'll get more with S2 DLC and S3.

I hope so…I'm awful thirsty

>>25882

I feel somewhat disappointed that it wasn't actually lewd.

>>25879

Huh, I suppose my memory about the RV incident is a little fuzzy. I guess I never really got the impression that Lilly actually wanted to kill someone.

>the most I'd do is abandon them

But that could be a fate worse than death in TWD. And it could be a massive risk, like Roberto. What do you think Clementine would do if faced with that choice?

And we all know Ben wouldn't last five minutes without a group

>>25882

You could've at least picked a better beer.

>>25880

>>25883

There's plenty of other places to get your fix.

>>25884

I know that, anon.

>>25884

>And it could be a massive risk, like Roberto

Perhaps, but someone like Ben would be a detriment to whatever group he'd join or die before becoming a threat to us. I don't think Clem would abandon anybody, but if she did, she would leave them with some supplies so it wouldn't be leaving them to die.

>>25886

Good night anon, sleep well.

>>25887

>S2 kind of fucked up her characterization

What's baffling to me about this is that they got her character right in episode 1. What the fuck happened from episode 2 on that caused them to get it so wrong? Do you think it's because Telltale listened to their fanbase, and took the "badass Clementine" memes way too far and seriously?

>>25888

>Do you think it's because Telltale listened to their fanbase, and took the "badass Clementine" memes way too far and seriously?

I think there's more to it than that. I'm not 100% sure (unless we saw what was going at Telltale during S2's development we'll never truly know) but I think it comes down to two things: one, the bad and inconsistent writing that resulted from having too many weak writers on the project. Clem wasn't the only one afflicted with inconsistent characterization and the overall "plot" was affected by this as well.

Two, I don't think the S2 team had any real idea what to do with Clem's character. S2 only seemed to exist because it "had to" follow up on the success of the first game and judging from interviews the writers are just winging it when it comes to Clem's overall story. It kind of explains the whole #MyClementine meme and the writers' reliance on letting the player "define" Clem's character by making her a sock puppet rather than actually making her fully fleshed out person. This worries me more than anything else and can only hope the trend doesn't continue. I honestly might jump ship otherwise.

>>25889

>I honestly might jump ship otherwise

Same. Clem continuing to be a canvas we paint our personality on is what'll cause me to quit the series. I don't want #MyClementine, I want Clementine.

>>25890

To be fair to Telltale, I don't think they're going to let the player truly mold and define Clem's character that would require too much work. I think it more likely they're going to continue to give her a fairly bland characterization so she could "realistically" continue to make really inconsistent dialogue choices and decisions and then use a multiple ending choice to decide her fate/arc . Basically similar to what they did with S2.

Again, I don't want this happen and I think there's better ways of doing the whole "define Clem's character" thing TTG is trying to go for but I'd rather they decide themselves what Clem's arc is going to be and make a story around that.

>>25891

Whoops, I screwed up that spoiler tag. Oh well.

>>25874

Porn artists are prbably bored with her. maybe they're waiting on a new mode;/design

>>25892

I fixed it.

I just hope TTG opts to drop the "Woe is Clem" angle. At least for a bit

>>25895

Me too. It feels somewhat similar to the Forresters in GOT.

>>25896

I miss you anon.

>>25897

>S2 felt like fanfiction honestly.

Thank you! It feels good knowing I'm not the only one who feels this way.

>>25898

>It feels somewhat similar to the Forresters in GOT.

Haven't played it. But yeah, it's like the only thing that TTG seems to know how to do is make Clem suffer, which, honestly, gets boring after 10 episodes

>>25886

Good night anon.

>>25887

I forgot about imfdb, thanks anon.

Fuck yeah, I nailed the Model 70

>>25895

>>25897

>>25898

>>25899

It's okay to make us feel sorry for Clem, but not all the damn time. It fucking sucks living in the ZA and one of the best ways of getting that across is breaking our hearts by putting her in shitty situations. I agree that it's overplayed, though. In S1 there were times when Clem was happy and sad, and our attention was only brought to that fact during selected moments like in the Savannah house.

>>25898

I feel the Forresters are a little different since it's not a singular character, and everyone in House Forrester has their own way of dealing. The desperate situation really made it tempting to forge the letter as Mira and made me really want to get the conversation with Elaena right, for example. With Clem, it's just "Damn, that sucks. I'm sorry you had to go through that." There's nothing else playing into it. If it was phrased in a way that this suffering was a necessary evil, by benefiting AJ or something, then maybe we wouldn't be so sick of it.

>>25900

You're right, anon. I think the straw that broke the camel's back, at least for me, is when Ep. 5hype started to build and players were tweeting how sad the finale made them feel.

Nevermind TTG failing to let the game itself illicit emotion. They had to have people tell us that more sad shit's gonna happen. Same thing with the "Oh My Darling Clementine" thing, though I actually liked that teaser

>>25902

Seeing Clementonia, and by extension Catalonia, spread its influence so far brings a tear to my eye. I just found out today that there are several theories that Christopher Columbus may have been Catalan.

>Duke Doug of Granada

I don't know why I found this so funny.

What's a good way of getting money?

>>25903

That does seem a little boring.

Clem seems like the type that would try to start a dialogue about familial issues, and just talk openly to resolve the problem. There's no sense in beating around the bush.

>>25904

>What's a good way of getting money?

Usually I'd take a loan from the Jewish community but I actually owe them right now. I'd request cash from the pope in exchange for piety (which I have a ton of thanks to all those holy wars) but the last pope ruined his realm's finances on a failed crusade. So I pretty much have to rely on my monthly vassal tax which is actually really good right now, and loot from successfully sieging French castles.

>That does seem a little boring.

It is. This is a game where Satan can cuck you and leave you with the Antichrist as your heir and your lesbian wives can commit suicide by riding off a cliff together.

>>25904

>Clem seems like the type that would try to start a dialogue about familial issues, and just talk openly to resolve the problem.

Do you think this would make for an interesting 'gameplay' segment?

>>25906

What do you mean by "gameplay" segment? How would that even work?

I could actually imagine a really fast-paced dialog segment though. Just an intense barrage of dialog options. I'm surprised TTG hasn't tried something like that, it would be a pretty good way of gamifying the lowly dialog option. What do you guys think?

Food for thought.

Good night for now /ttgg/.

>>25908

Sounds like a dialogue option segment that plays like a QTE. Might be cool. Good night anon.

>>25910

Sounds like an episode of a really bad soap opera.

>>25910

>It's an option

I didn't want you to do it, but it's pretty funny that you can. In a non-anti-Semitic way, of course.

>I could see people complaining about the dialogue options coming too fast

That would be a lame excuse. The pause function exists, people could just use that.

I think quick choices are among the most fun, since they force you to weigh your options very quickly and sometimes leave you regretting a decision. A whole segment of that would be a huge overload, but in a good way. It might fit a game like TftB best, perhaps as a quarrel between Fiona and Sasha. It wouldn't even have to affect much, it would just have to be fun to play and maybe even funny.

>>25912

This is something IRL that bothers me. I find it really sad that parents get separated and subject the kid to such a life. It's hard for me to believe that two people that had a kid together can't find it within themselves to get along for the sake of that kid and seems pretty selfish.

Perhaps I'm just being naive.

Also, that thing about hating the tree house ticked me off. It's like they wrote that line just for kicks. I suppose Clementine may think the tree house is kinda lame, but she clearly doesn't hate it. It even shows up in her flashback with the raccoon. And don't say it brings back bad memories of the ZA, because she was hiding in it when Lee showed up. If things like that bothered her, she would've ditched the bloody hat, the photo, etc.

>>25913

>that thing about hating the tree house ticked me off.

I feel like it was supposed to be played for laughs. The delivery of the line, the delay before she says it, made it seem like it was supposed to be funny. But I don't think anyone laughed at it, and in fact most people seemed to think it was out of character for her.

>>25914

Well, she was hiding up in there for a few days. She probably grew to hate it in that time.

>>25914

You mean funny in the way that she shut Luke down? I certainly didn't get that impression. Even if the delivery was a little better, I still don't think I would've understood that. The line, "I've done this before, remember? In a shed…" accomplishes something similar, is actually somewhat humorous, makes sense in context, and doesn't ruin a little piece of Clem's character in the process.

>>25915

She might have hated that situation, but she would still have good fond memories of it. That would be like saying she hated the Marsh house because of the Stranger. She still had a good time during her family vacations there. If they truly wanted to go that route, she should have said something along the lines of "I had a tree house once… I'd rather not think about it."

>>25912

The game does at least punish you for expelling Jews out of your realm and they eventually come back.

>It's hard for me to believe that two people that had a kid together can't find it within themselves to get along for the sake of that kid and seems pretty selfish

Speaking as a someone who's parents got separated yeah it sucks but it also sucks living under a shitty unstable marriage. Some marriages just can't be fixed and their continuation can create terrible situations at home.

>>25915

Even so that line still felt … fanfiction-y? Like the writer pulled it out his ass. It's a minor issue but in hindsight it seems symptomatic of the way S2 Clem was written.

It's really early to be speculating this but what do you think the plot of S3 will be about?

>>25917

Meant to quote this >>25913

>>25917

With season 2's multiple endings it's hard to say what season 3 will be about. We'll get a clearer idea once the DLC is out. I do have some ideas for what season 3 could be like, for example, multiple protagonists based on what ending you got.

>tfw I dropped HBO's Game of Thrones today

Feels bad, but it's for the best, my autism just can't take it anymore.

>>25911

It's a Thelma and Louise reference, I think.

>>25913

Being a child of divorced parents beats being a child of married parents who hate each other all day, every day. Sometimes divorce is for the best. Especially if the parents are mature about it.

>>25912

The change is too fucking jarring. I get that 16 months is very long time for someone so young, but she's almost unrecognizable. I think that her character would have been better off if she wasn't the protagonist. The development just didn't feel organic at all.

>>25920

Unless S1 had a different ending, there's no way she couldn't have been the protagonist. Either you'd have to play as a different surviving character such as Christa and Omid, who not only have their own set characters but some players don't like them and wouldn't want to play as them OR play as a new character, which wouldn't work as you will know the ins and outs of what happened to Clem before the new character would actually meet her, so you can see why it's not an option for Telltale.

TL;DR Telltale wrote themselves into a corner

>>25921

Yeah. I suppose there's a more elegant solution than having a different protagnoist. Take Lee for example, he had a set personality, what you could influence was his set of values and how he deals with others. The same could have been done with Clem. Also, the game decided to ignore her age way too quickly. It's really awkward watching an eleven year old knock down doors and being asked for advice and leadership by adults.

>>25917

>what do you think the plot of S3 will be about?

Well, if the DLC does what many of us are expecting and ties up S2's endings, my best guess is that it will at least start at Wellington. From there, it could tackle a variety of issues of a large community like social/political unrest, disease, rivalry with another community, etc. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Wellington eventually fell. Perhaps it's already in its death throes at the end of S2, it's just not plainly visible.

If they go this route, I at least hope TT will have the decency to make Wellington last several episodes. TWD doesn't always have to be about nomadic groups, some of the best bits of the TV show are at the prison.

>>25920

Has the show really gotten that bad? Or is it just because you're a stickler for the books?

>The change is too fucking jarring

I suppose I'm in the minority here when I say that if it was toned down a little, and we got some more backstory with Christa about the things Clem might've been put through to make her that way, I might have been okay with it. The timeskip is what makes it so jarring, and it just feels lazy.

I don't think another protagonist would have helped. A big problem I think is that the S2 team looked at the story and thought things needed to happen one after the other. Get to Howe's? Okay, now we gotta get out. Rob Arvo? He comes back with his friends immediately after, no time for insecurity and fear to brew among the group. S1 took place over several months but it never lessened the impact of events that did happen. What if instead of a big timeskip with Christa, we got a gradual series of smaller timeskips, with important, playable events interspersed that helped characterize Clem? Would that feel too disjointed?

I guess you two are right about the divorce thing. I just wish it wasn't so commonplace.

>>25921

I'm saying this now because we got a season 2 where Clem is the protagonist and it sucks, but I think season 2 could've worked with someone else as the protagonist. I'll explain once we're in the new thread.

>>25923

>What if instead of a big timeskip with Christa, we got a gradual series of smaller timeskips, with important, playable events interspersed that helped characterize Clem?

I think that would be preferable, even if it did feel disjointed. Hell maybe it could've worked if the entirety of the season was not one continuous narrative, but rather the sporadic telling of important events in Clem's life. It would be incredibly limited of course because they can't go past the comic in timeline, but it still could've been better than what we got.

>>25923

>Has the show really gotten that bad? Or is it just because you're a stickler for the books?

Bit of both. Jaime randomly raping Cersei after his redemption arc last season almost made me quit, but the episode that's coming up tonight finally did it for me. It's out of character, it's gratuitous and edgy as fuck… you'll probably see soon enough.

>The timeskip is what makes it so jarring, and it just feels lazy.

I agree, the timeskip was a huge issue. And as you said, the fast pace of S2 didn't help at all. The multiple time skips idea could work, provided that there was enough time to develop the characters and relationships between those time skips. Then again, S2's story might have worked too if they gave us enough time and interactions between the events.

Anyway, I feel like I'm not making much sense anymore, so I'm going to bed. Have fun.

>>25920

>tfw I dropped HBO's Game of Thrones today

I don't keep up with the series. What made you stop watching it?

>It's a Thelma and Louise reference, I think.

Yup.

>I think that her character would have been better off if she wasn't the protagonist

The problem wasn't so much that she was the protagonist as the writers just fucking up.

>>25921

I'm still baffled by the people who think we're going to play as Christa in S3.

>>25923

>S1 took place over several months but it never lessened the impact of events that did happen.

One neat thing about S1 is that the amount of time between each consecutive episode was shortened as a way of gradually ramping up the pacing and tension. It's part of what made the ending of episode 4 and and beginning of episode 5 so goddamn tense.

Ep.1 - Ep.2 = three months

Ep.2 - Ep.3 = couple weeks

Ep.3 - Ep.4 = less than 24 hours

Ep.4 - Ep.5 = immediately

Compare that to S2 where almost every episode ends on a sudden cliffhanger and begins in media res. The pacing was janky as hell and got especially awkward at the beginning of episode 4.

>What if instead of a big timeskip with Christa, we got a gradual series of smaller timeskips, with important, playable events interspersed that helped characterize Clem? Would that feel too disjointed?

That would've been interesting. Like we spend the first half of the season playing as little Clem and watch her slowly become the hardboiled S2 Clem, giving her an actual arc. I actually wanted all future seasons to do something like this until Clem became an adult but of course that's impossible with the time constraint.

>>25925

Good night anon.

>>25926

>I'm still baffled by the people who think we're going to play as Christa in S3.

Where did you read this? TTGF?

New thread >>25928