/ttgg/ - TellTale Games

I'm going to use this moment of deadness to absentmindedly point out that Arvo tells you to take anything but his medicine when the choice to rob him comes up.

I commented before that telltale did a good job of making you hate the villains in GOT, however the villains in season 2 are also easy to hate, but I wouldn't say they did a good job of it in this instance. Why is this? I think it's because, like the rest of season 2's cast, the villains are extremely bland and one dimensional. The villains in GOT feel like actual characters in the story while the villains in season 2 feel like they only exist so you can hate them.

>27781

I'm a clemposter and I found the tummy rubbing greentexts creepy as all fuck, especially after they got transparently lewd.

>>27795

Carver was a pretty ominous and intriguing character before the third episode. How would you have made him an actually interesting antagonist rather than just a mustache twirler?

>>27796

I think Carver should've been a more ambiguous villain. Killing Reggie just because he couldn't cut some berries right was a bad example of killing off the incompetent in order to keep the group safe. I also think he should've lived longer, remaining the villain until the last episode.

Also I posted this idea a few threads back, but nobody replied. What do you guys think of the idea of Carver trying to get Kenny to join his side after noticing that his group treats him badly despite all he does for them?

>>27794

And if you don't take anything, he sics his group on you anyway! So, Arvo is just an asshole.

>>27798

The thing is, even if you don't steal the medicine Jane still takes his pistol, but he said take anything you want but not the medicine. And then when he has his group try to rob you, he blames Clem for what Jane did. So yeah, fuck Arvo.

>>27797

Carver would find Kenny way too contentious and unpredictable to be reliable. Plus he already tried to do this do with Clem for whatever reason.

>his group treats him badly despite all he does for them

Not too start another Kenny argument, but as someone who liked him and got his ending this is incredibly skewed thinking and ignores his faults and his mistakes. The things that make him interesting.

>>27799

Honestly I kind of find hard to genuinely hate Arvo when he's transparently a plot device rather than a character with realistic motives. His actions make me more pissed at the writers rather than him, although the Arvofags that defend him are pretty annoying..

>>27801

Uh, what?

>>27800

>this is incredibly skewed thinking and ignores his faults and his mistakes

I wasn't trying to say that he's without faults, just that his group doesn't appreciate what he does for them and that Carver might've used this as reason for why Kenny should turn on them.

>>27809

Damn anon, that's some dedication you have. I'm not sure if I can go for another season after 3. Telltale's track record, and the recent reveal of the Michonne DLC, have made me completely unhopeful for season 3, and I hope it's the last one regardless of how it ends.

Oh nice, new TftB?

I assume it'll be out next Tuesday. That would be nice, it's the same day my visiting family leaves. It's killing me not being able to post or play games, so it'd be nice to play a brand new Tales episode then.

By the way, streaming works again. I'll announce a stream a day or two in advance sometime next week when I have time. In the meantime, I'm open to suggestions. I was thinking of resuming GoT season 5.

>>27811

One anon suggested that it might come out on the 25th. Sorry that you haven't been able to be around lately, I too was thinking we could finish GOT. Also, now that you're here, this is somewhat of an off-topic question, but do you think you'd have trouble playing a Donkey Kong game?

>>27811

Nice seeing you post again anon. I was wondering where you were.

>streaming works again

Sweet. I haven't kept up with GoT but I'm up for more streams of it.

>>27812

>do you think you'd have trouble playing a Donkey Kong game?

Huh? I don't think I would, why?

Unless you're talking about a Telltale Donkey Kong game. That would be weird.

>[Barrel Him]

>>27813

I should post from my phone. But browsing on the phone sucks.

Guess the consensus is GoT. Expect that sometime next week.

Theoretically I could schedule it to stream even if I'm not here, but I want to watch it too.

>>27814

>I don't think I would, why?

Donkey Kong games are banana collectathons.

>>27815

O-oh.

The only Donkey Kong game I've played for a significant amount of time was a clone of the original on the Atari 2600.

>>27814

Since you're here again can you answer this question? >>27753

>>27817

>What I liked about Season 2

I didn't hate Season 2 initially. I thought it was a bit underwhelming, but I didn't put any thought into why I thought it was bad. It's only through some analysis with you guys that I realized exactly why it was so underwhelming. Also, I only really play these kinds of games once or twice, so hearing exactly how much your choices don't matter was very revealing. If I had played it in a vacuum, I would not have realized how the game was lacking in that aspect.

As for what I liked about it, obviously Clementine's cuteness is one. But I believe I'm in a very small minority that liked her somewhat monotone voice, at least when she was with Christa. I think it was a good fit for the tone of that bit of the story, and would have liked if something lifted Clem's spirits and we started hearing some more emotion in her voice.

In a way, I kind of liked the more set-piece oriented bits of it. As much as we laud Season 1 for at least putting a few gameplay segments in, they were often half-baked and honestly not as good as they should have been. Of course, I would have preferred good gameplay segments instead of a complete lack of them.

I'll have to think about this a little more, I'm busy with family so it's taken nearly half an hour to even write this post.

>>27809

The choices didn't matter in season 1 yet nobody complains about it. If choices actually mattering makes or breaks the game for you then why do you play these games in the first place?

>>27810

What do you mean by their 'track record'? I haven't played Borderlands or Game of Thrones but people seem to enjoy them a lot.

>>27818

I do wonder why her voice sounded so bored and sleepy most of the game. I kind of want to pin the blame on voice director or whoever picked which takes to put in because Melissa's definitely not a bad voice actress. Or maybe Melissa did have trouble emoting in S2 Clem's chosen voice?

>>27819

>The choices didn't matter in season 1 yet nobody complains about it.

They did in a way. It was the illusion of choice done well; your decisions, despite not changing the plot much, felt like they mattered because of how the characters reacted to them (especially Clem and Kenny) and the great writing in general. In S2 almost every choice was incredibly transparent (almost insultingly so in some cases) and had little effect on how characters reacted to you.

>>27820

Hmm, would you guys actually be interested in the Michonne game if it featured 400 Days characters or other supporting characters?

>>27821

So long as it's got some interesting characters I'm not bothered about a Michonne game in the slightest. Developing the 400 days characters would be nice.

>>27820

>wanting N8 to be polluted and possibly killed by Michonne

Disgusting.

>>27823

Indeed.

>>27821

>Clem and Kenny

Lilly too. And there was the whole Doug/Carley thing. While they didn't have a huge role in the story, they were still miles above Sarah and Nick in terms of how determinant characters are treated.

Being a total cunt in episode 1 and going out of your way to alienate everyone, only for them to act like you are the best of friends with them in episode 2 was one of the most jarring things in season 2. Kenny and Lilly actually remembered shit.

>Predictions for TFTB episode 4?*

Gonna be a major spotlight for Rhys. Through Jack he can basically control all of Helios and everything within. Rhys is going to be given the same badass treatment as Fiona in Ep3, and Jack's actions will depend on how we acted towards him. If we didn't trust him in Ep2 and Ep3, we're definitely getting betrayed. If we trusted him, I think he'll hold up his end of the bargain.

>Why do you think this episode is being released sooner than the others?*

Because

>Do you think this episode will be rushed?*

it's been rushed. Telltale's doing to Tales what they did to TWAU. Too many projects going on they need to finish or work on (GoT, Shitcraft, that superhero DC game), and they gotta crank Tales out the door rapidly.

>>27830

>can't deal with the fact that their character is a poorly written psycopath who shouldn't have even been anything more than a side character, let alone one of the people you can side with at the end

>f-fucking k-kenny f-fags

Every time.

>>27831

Neither of the posts you replied to made any mention of Jane. Nice try though Kenny cuck, my allegiance is not with any one character, I just hate Kenny.

>>27832

What do you mean "neither"? That entire greentext was about Jane, though I suppose yours doesn't.

Generally hatred of Kenny coincides with love of Jane.

I don't hate Jane, I hate idiots who thinks she's a good character and I hate Telltale for wasting her potential. "Waste of potential" pretty much applies to all of S2.

Thread is ded, so I might as well take the b8.

>>27828

>couldn't protect his family

Neither could Lee, Lilly, Larry, Christa, Jane, Molly, Vernon and literally every other character, it's the apocalypse, people tend to die.

Kenny made some mistakes regarding his family, he should have been with Duck during his last moments, but instead he went full denial mode and focused on being pragmatic. That doesn't mean that he is a bad person or that he didn't love his family. Dealing with the death of your own child is probably one of the hardest things you could ever deal with. Who knows how any of us would react. In any case, denying that shit has hit the fan and trying to help the kid by making sure he gets to the coast is far less selfish and unreasonable than blowing your brains out in front the said child, so he's the better parent by default.

>gave up on life (as well as Clem)

He got better. Good characters go through ups and downs, changes, evolution, devolution…They're dynamic. He was willing to die for Clem, and after taking a breather to grieve he was willing to live for her and AJ. Besides, Clem is absurdly competent. She survived as long as she did without him. She doesn't seem to need anyone to survive, certainly not anyone specific.

>and him latching onto that baby emotionally is pure stupidity

Emotions tend to be stupid, yes. However, taking care of the helpless is a moral and altruistic impulse and I admire him for it.

>He also harmed Clem emotionally and physically and didn't even apologize.

That's determinant, and I'm pretty sure he always apologizes if he was shit in episode 4 and even if he wasn't. And lashing out after the death of a loved one and hitting a kid by accident is still miles better than locking her up in a shed over night or shooting her and leaving her to her fate while you run off with the medical supplies, or shrugging off her being attacked by walkers. Kenny isn't an ideal caretaker by any means mind you, but goddamn do other people suck.

>Also he has one eye and potential brain damage.

That just makes him more vulnerable and thus hotter. Also he got that way protecting Clem.

>He's also impulsive and irrational.

Yes. Good characters have flaws. Still, he can also be very pragmatic from time to time. Meat locker scene and the bait girl are the proof of that. So despite the fact that he is a live wire, he isn't dumb.

Kenny is kind of a group killer. Lilly and Larry were the same way. Unless people around them are submissive, or on the same page as them, there are going to be problems. He is overly stubborn, emotional and can carry a grudge like a motherfucker. Still, he is also extremely loyal, protective, resilient, loves very deeply and has a pragmatic streak. He's an interesting character. It's a little wonder he is a favorite for many people.

>When you do expect TFTB episode 4 to be released?*

The 25th like others said.

>Predictions for TFTB episode 4?*

Jack taking control of Helios. Vallory getting killed or otherwise removed as a threat. A big fight scene between two loaderbots.

>Why do you think this episode is being released sooner than the others?*

1. They've probably been working on it around at the same time as episode 3.

2. They probably didn't have to work as hard on making new environments for Helios since they already have some made from episode one. I predict a shootout down the same hallway Rhys and Vaughn walk down in the prologue.

3. Telltale's trying get all their current projects done before Michonne and Minecraft come out this year.

>Do you think this episode will be rushed?*

Probably. Though all they really need to get right is the characters since the plot's already kind of a mess.

>>27818

>I didn't hate Season 2 initially.

>It's only through some analysis with you guys that I realized exactly why it was so underwhelming.

Same. I actually liked Season 2 so far when I first played it, but once I started hanging out here, I noticed just how flawed it was. With the exception of episode 5, I enjoyed each episode the first time I played it, but my opinions quickly changed once I started talking about it with you guys.

What would you have done to improve season 1's gameplay segments?

>>27819

>The choices didn't matter in season 1

They did to an extent. The changes in season 1, though minor, are actually noticeable. I'm still getting dialogue and scenes I never experienced before whenever I replay the game, which makes me feel like there was a considerable amount of effort put into it. With season 2, nothing changes in the story. You can play the game a completely different way from the way you did the first time, and more or less still get the same experience, the only choices the change anything are the ones that determine what ending you get.

>What do you mean by their 'track record'?

I'm mainly talking about how they always appeal to the majority when it comes to the writing. I don't know how much, if any influence the fanbase had on the writing back in season 1, but the fandom has a clear influence on the writing now and that's a problem, especially considering TWD's fans, and the fact that Telltale doesn't communicate with their fanbase anymore. With season 2's multiple endings and they way they were handled, I know my ending choice isn't going to matter, not because this is telltale we're talking about, but because I'm in the minority with my ending choice. Before anyone calls me a Kennyfag, this has nothing to do with liking or hating Kenny, this is about getting fucked over as a player, all because I didn't make a specific choice, a choice that the developers seemingly wanted me to make, based on the way the situation was framed, and how episode 5 was framed as a whole. I can envision a multitude of ways season 3 is going to suck for me, which is only one reason why I'm not looking forward to it.

>>27833

>I don't hate Jane, I hate idiots who thinks she's a good character and I hate Telltale for wasting her potential.

I'm not sure what you mean by potential, but I think this is why I don't hate Jane myself. I'm more angry with the writers for the ending situation than Jane, because it makes no sense for her to do what she did.

>>27834

You pretty much nailed it. It's funny how Kenny haters hate Kenny for things other characters have done, but not those other characters. There's also characters who have done more, and worse things than Kenny, yet Kenny is somehow the worst person in TWD.

The majority of people shot Kenny at the end of season 2.

Do you think this would have been different if the options had been [shoot Kenny] or [shoot Jane] instead of [shoot Kenny] or [look away]?

>>27838

I think it would change very little. With the way the situation was framed, it's designed to have you shoot Kenny. If it where [shoot Kenny] or [shoot Jane] and neither had an upper hand in the fight at the time the choice came up, I think at least some of the people who were tricked into shooting him wouldn't have. That's about it.

>>27840

We like Kenny not because he's a particularly good character, but because everyone else is shit because Telltale ruined S2.

>>27841

>we

>>27842

We as in most non-delusional Kennyfags.

>>27841

Kenny actually is a pretty good character though, and we've detailed in the past why so I won't get into it, though he is the only one in season 2 to have any depth or complexity to him.

>>27844

Aye, he's the only one who has any, but compared to pretty much any other good story game he'd be subpar at best.

>>27838

It doesn't make sense shooting a woman who's already about to be stabbed to death. At that point the situation turned into deciding to save someone's life by killing the person you may or may not have any attachment to. Unless the scenario had played out differently to begin with killing Jane would just be cartoonishly evil.

>>27840

You know people who like Jane have used "Janefag"for themselves before. That's what it means.

>>27841

That's not quite right.

>>27844

>>27843

>>27845

As a character, he's okay. He has plenty of flaws and I hate him for how he acts, but I hate him in a good way, as in his character his compelling enough to make me hate him rather than me hating him for being a bad character.

>>27846

>>27845

>>27844

>>27843

My only issue is when some Kennyfags, especially back around Ep5's release, condemned anyone who didn't express absolutely unconditional love for Kenny. If you weren't sucking him off every post you were a mentally delusional and psychotic Jane-worshiper, to them.

>>27830

Not everyone can have a perfect husbando, anon.

>>27849

Expect to continue to be disappointed anon, Telltale is just going to push the Clem suffering again in season 3, and continue to have no uplifting moments for her whatsoever.

>>27850

Would adult Clem draw lewds?

>>27852

At this point I'm just hoping she's going to remain playable or have a significant role in S3 if she's going to appear at all. An E3 interview with Stauffer I saw recently wasn't very encouraging.

I did a range ban to combat a spammer. I apologize if any of you were banned because of this. If you were affected, file a ban appeal and I'll unban you.

>>27855

>Would adult Clem draw lewds?

Of coursh.

>>27858

>2015

>TTG animations are STILL robotic and unnatural

>>27859

>ywn be Rhys in this picture

>>27861

why would you even post that

>>27865

>Anon is going to stop baiting replies someday

>>27866

At least he stirred up some activity.

You responded, didn't you?

>>27869

well fuck you too

>>27869

Don't feel bad, at least you tried. I missed you by the way.

Why is it that this place struggles to find things to talk about, yet whenever somebody mentions Kenny, it makes the thread active, even if only for an hour or so? I get that he's a polarizing character, but why are people on both sides so obsessed with him?

>>27872

arguing on the internet is too hard an opportunity for lurkers to resist, so they post until they get bored again

>>27872

This is going to sound gay as fuck, but I think it's the tone. Resident antikennyfag tends to start throwing around fedoras and words like "cuck" and "retard" for no reason. I'm 90% sure it's a troll, but responding gives me something to do for 20 minutes or so.

>>27874

I absolutely agree with you. I don't consider myself to be a Kennyfag or an antiKennyfag, but posters who do hate Kenny seem to have this bizarre condescending tone. I can see how easy it'd be to get baited into arguing with them.

>>27873

>>27874

>>27875

Well seeing as how I'm the one who brought it up, I might as well post some thought I developed recently. I think Kenny is meant to be the judge of your actions throughout the game. The stranger acts as a judge at the end of the game, but Kenny, I think, is the game's way of punishing the player for making bad decisions, while rewarding them for making good ones as they are going through the game. Of course I'm talking about season 1.

>>27878

>dropping Ben

>ever

I want to die! I would never betray or hurt Kenny, but yikes.

Thank you though, anon. It's nice to understand Kenny's point system (I would have never seen this otherwise since I avoid TTGF)

>>27878

He sure is needy. I never realized that I sucked his dick that much. I didn't drop Ben and I made him kill the attic kid, so I guess I must have sided against Lilly twice, which is odd. I was pro settling in until the bandits became a thing and I never really questioned her as a leader.

>>27880

Well it says "Don't pick Lilly's side" not "Side against Lilly"

Hooray… I guess.

It's hard to get excited over new Telltale updates anymore, it's just gonna be more absolute shit as always.

>>27884

>Implying TftBL isn't their consistently best work since TWD S1.

>>27885

I live in fear that they'll fuck it up too.

>>27877

That means next week it'll be 8 weeks since the last episode. We're actually getting an on schedule episode instead of a delayed one.

>>27878

I knew stealing food from the car wasn't a choice to side with Kenny! Kinda odd though that whether or not you fight him on the train doesn't affect this. I'm guessing don't pick Lilly's side in episode 3 means the choice to leave her behind after she kills Carley/Doug.

>>27883

Well look at that. This week? I thought they released episodes on Tuesday.

>>27886

It's a legitimate concern, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

>>27878

That's really neat but I wonder how they figured this out or where they got these numbers.

>>27876

No, Clem is the moral heart and "judge" of the game. That's not an opinion, that's a core function of the story and narrative. Almost every major decision you make either involves, is influenced by, or is contextualized by her. If you make her happy or nurture her innocence and virtuousness you feel good for it. If she witnesses you doing something wrong or you upset her in some way, you feel like shit or even re-evaluate your choice. That's about as close as the game has to a reward/punishment system when it comes to moral choices. Kenny's role is to either become an ally or antagonist based on how much you agree with him. He judges you but he does it from his own biases which in all likeliness will not totally agree with. You're not supposed to appease him all the time and in fact you can be "punished" for agreeing with him on certain issues by making Clem upset with you.

>>27884

>it's just gonna be more absolute shit as always.

>as always

Have you played TftB?

>>27857

I'm now picturing a scenario where older Clem has a heart attack after Kenny/AJ almost accidentally discover on her "notes".

>>27889

>I'm now picturing a scenario where older Clem has a heart attack after Kenny/AJ almost accidentally discover her "notes".

ftfm

>>27888

nice trips

of course I have, I guess Borderlands would be the only exception to the rule.-

>>27888

>No, Clem is the moral heart and "judge" of the game, etc.

I think you're right, I'm mostly basing these thoughts off of how people react to Kenny, as well as how he treats you. The people who don't like Kenny mostly do so because of how he treats you if you don't side with him, so to me, they're being punished for not agreeing with him. You're right about Kenny being a friend or for depending on how you treat him, but I feel like he's designed to be your best friend type of character, because not only is he more of a friend to you than anyone else you can side with in the season, but he's around for the whole game, and Lilly & Larry are assholes, especially Larry who's an asshole even if you're nice to him.

Ayyy, finally back to our regularly scheduled program.

So would y'all want to continue Game of Thrones, maybe on Thursday 8PM EST? Does that work for all interested parties?

>>27887

>This week?

Nah, we're getting info this week.

information on when they're going to announce a release date :^)

>>27888

>Have you played TftB?

TftB is good, but not as good as it could be. I have no evidence to back this up, so I'll pose a question: How could TftB be improved?

>>27893

>Thursday 8PM EST

So I guess this means you'll be showing two episodes?

>How could TftB be improved?

Can't think of much really. More hubs perhaps, preferably of TWD season 1 quality. I also think that action sequences should play more like an actual game instead of still being just QTEs since this is a game based off of a series that was already a game to begin with.

>>27894

>two episodes

I didn't intend to, but I might do that.

>>27894

>More hubs

I'd say more in-depth hubs and/or puzzles that, as you said, play more like the series Tales is based on. I wouldn't mind a miniature "quest" of sorts given to you by an NPC to get some macguffin necessary to continue. You'd be free to do this quest while wandering around the hub world. I'd say Tales is almost a perfect fit for the more traditional adventure game formula that focuses on those kinds of little puzzles.

I suppose my primary hangup is that little "puzzle" to enter the secret Atlas facility was laughably easy. I mean, gimme a break. It's not like it was to help you get used to using the ECHO eye, since the bit with Vasquez already did that.

>>27895

>I wouldn't mind a miniature "quest" of sorts given to you by an NPC to get some macguffin necessary to continue.

I kinda feel like we had something like that in episode one with the Nakayama drive, except you find it even if you don't scan/observe him. Telltale should really make quests for items something that the player actually has to do in order to get them instead of the game giving it to you no matter what.

>>27893

>TftB is good, but not as good as it could be

> How could TftB be improved?

The plot is a mess and needs to be pruned and tightened. There's a few characters and storylines with no build up and seemingly no purpose and feel like the writers came up with on the spot. Vallory is a recent example and I think she should be written out while Vasquez remains on Helios as an all-seeing main villain with unlimited resources to exact revenge on Rhys.

Choices have also limited effect on your relationships with other characters so far. It doesn't matter if you sold out Vaughn or that you haven't forgiven him for "selling you out", Rhys is still BFFs with him regardless. Fiona's relationships with other characters are even more railroaded and the only character you can influence her opinion on is dead. The only relationship you can really change in a significant way is Rhys's with Jack and it looks like the endgame is going to come down to whether you trust him enough or not.

Rhys's relationship with Sasha feels rushed and poorly handled despite me liking the pairing and having spotting it way back in episode one. It's teased a bit that they're going to have major relationship and influence on each others arcs in the first episode, but then there's no interaction between them in two and they're suddenly having a schmaltzy romance scene in three. It feels like the writers missed an great opportunity to explore these characters, their relationship with each other, and Hyperion's effect on Pandorans in an interesting way and instead went for vapid fanservice. I can understand people feeling like the relationship is being forced on them because it's so sudden and has no proper build up.

>>27893

>So would y'all want to continue Game of Thrones, maybe on Thursday 8PM EST? Does that work for all interested parties?

Works for me.

>>27899

>>27900

>>27901

>>27902

>>27903

neat

>>27900

Guess Vaughn's still MIA.

>>27899

TELL ME ABOUT THE HYPERION EMPLOYEES! WHY DO THEY WEAR THE MASKS?!

Episode comes out on the 18th for those unaware.

>sacrifices will need to be made. Can you make the tough choices required to succeed?

So… Sasha/Vaughn choice confirmed?

Oh neat, you can see the entire list of banners now.

https://banners.8ch.net/list/ttgg/

>>27909

Ah, neat. Thanks for telling us that, dude.

>>27911

>totally not DJ

Alright, i'll admit that i'm somewhat suspicious.

>>27911

Yup. If I remember correctly, it was posted in the thread when I first started lurking.

>>27912

It's obviously him dude. Nice to see he's still lurking at least.

>>27914

That picture always weirds me out.

>>27899

>>27900

>>27901

>>27902

>>27903

Neat.

>tfw Vaughn was left on the curb after all :(

Poor guy will probably return as a psycho.

>>27896

>episode one with the Nakayama drive

Yeah, something like that, but that is more obviously stated. I can understand why TTG often just automatically gives you items like that; it's to reduce frustration and assuage the old use-every-item-on-every-usable-thing routine adventure games get stuck with. But I think if what you were looking for was very obvious (i.e. even part of a "quest"), that wouldn't be a problem. TWDS1's puzzles, while usually pretty simple, all followed this general idea: You very obviously need the fire axe at the motel, or the tools on the train. The instances where a lot of people got lost or confused were when this need was not well stated, like with the bits of spark plug.

>>27897

>plot is a mess

I will agree with you on most of those points, but I also think the idea of having more than one "villain" could work. There's no reason both Vallory and Vasquez couldn't be out to get you at the same time. Making more enemies like that would be an interesting plot element, and it would be funny if there was a subplot of Vasquez and Vallory stepping on each other's toes trying to kill you.

>choices

Yeah, that's pretty standard fare. It's a given with almost any TT game.

>Rhys's relationship with Sasha feels rushed

I'm fairly sure that relationship only really came up because of the biodome. They saw the opportunity to have the two walking around a beautiful environment, have him give her a flower, appease a huge part of the fanbase, and took it. I don't blame them.

>>27898

Neato. I don't precisely recall which episode I streamed last, but I'm fairly sure it was the one where Lady Sansa and Ramsay consummate their marriage…

>>27900

>Finch's hair grew back already

>>27901

>spaceship caravan

u wot

>>27907

>Those are Vaughn's eyebrows

I-it might be just Telltale being lazy and copy/pasting, r-right?

It would be absolutely mind-blowing if Vaughn was somehow determinant and it stuck throughout the playthrough for once. Yeah, it would suck because he's dead, but it would be a milestone for Telltale.

>>27918

Better times…

>>27918

Remember when we thought there was a chance Sarah would amount to something?

I can't decide if this trailer makes TWD look decent or absolutely terrible. I'm morbidly curious to watch the new season and find out.

>>27916

>I don't precisely recall which episode I streamed last

You got it right. It's not hard to remember the name of the episode if you remember what happened.

>Yeah, that's pretty standard fare.

To be fair, there are somewhat different paths depending on certain choices, such as who you trusted at the end of episode 2. If you want to see everything episode 3 has to offer, you need to play both paths, and even then it can be easy to miss the changing booth in the biodome.

>It would be absolutely mind-blowing if Vaughn was somehow determinant and it stuck throughout the playthrough for once

Speaking of determinant characters, I had my little brother play Tales from the Borderlands and when he did, I found out from watching him play that Cassius lives even if you tell Athena to kill him. There better be a good reason for this, hopefully he still has an important role to play in the story and he'll die at a later point in time if you told her to kill him. Also, it reminded me that Rhys said in episode one that Gortys is bad news. I wonder what'll happen after she gets her final upgrade that causes Rhys to say this.

>>27918

>>27919

>>27920

>people thought Sarita was Spanish

>people thought Luke went missing because Kenny killed him

>people thought Carver's group was a bunch of cultists

>people thought the 400 days characters were gonna play an important role in the story

>people thought Eddie would appear in season 2

I miss old /ttgg/ so much…

>>27922

I'm curious to watch it too, though it's mostly to watch it with you guys.

>>27926

Stream's over. I streamed the wrong episode. Whoops.

Thanks for watching anyways.

>>27927

Don't worry about, I enjoyed watching the stream regardless. Although that CGI giant made me feel like I was watching Lord of the Rings. Thanks for streaming.

>>27929

I think I have a new reaction image for when the thread is dead.

>>27931

For once, I don't regret opening that spoiler. Did you make that yourself anon?

>>27933

You know I'll be there. It's probably just gonna be us though.

Thanks for watching!

>>27938

Yeah I think it's pretty close. What game is this?

>>27939

It's Project Zomboid.

Basically a zombie outbreak simulator. Goes into a lot of detail from what little I've played of it.

>>27938

>Infection Mortality

Maybe it's just because I've only played the games but I've never seen a TWD character that has survived for more than 24 hours after having been bit.

>>27941

I'm not sure how long it was, but Bob from the show survives quite a long while after being bitten. Jim also survived a long while, too.

But I'll set it to the next-lowest option, 0-12 hours.

>>27942

>>27941

Honestly I think the plot is the thing that dictates how long a person lasts.

>>27943

For important characters, sure.

But it's a good question in terms of how the universe operates, i.e. how Rick or Clementine might answer that question of how many hours on average it takes a bitten person to die.

As far as we can tell, a bite kills you because it's a concoction of horrible pathogens that infect you in the traditional sense. So I suppose the best way to figure this out would be to ask, how long would it take an average person to die if they expose an bite-sized open wound to a lot of really nasty pathogens?

>>27944

Well in season 1, Duck dies maybe… 10-12 hours after he's bitten. It's afternoon when he's bitten, and not until maybe morning that he dies. In season 2, Carlos says Clem will be dead by morning if she's bitten. I really only have in-game examples since I haven't watched the show since maybe season 2.

>>27944

The zombie pathogen destroys your immune system, which is why in the Comics, Show, and Game colds and flus are extremely lethal.

Zombie bites have extremely strong bacteria made resistant by the pathogen, which infect and kill the human host. Blood loss too.

Assuming you're bitten and escape and don't just get devoured.

>>27948

not really

>>27948

Say what you want about Telltale, but at least they usually affect more than 1 line of dialogue, unlike in BS:I

>>27951

To be fair, Elizabeth was a pretty shitty character too.

>>27951

>seeing how Elizabeth changed

Her backstory was that she was kept isolated all her life. And somehow she's perfectly capable of social interaction.

We have people like that IRL. They're called feral children.

>>27954

>ElizabethCleavage.jpg

Nice.

To make this /ttgg/ related, how do you think children raised after the ZA would turn out, people that would have no memory of the pre-ZA world? What sort of morals and ideals would they hold? You mentioned books, might they try to do their best to restore some semblance of pre-ZA society that they know through literature or firsthand accounts, or start something new?

>>27946

>tfw all the Walking Dead characters basically just have a glorified version of AIDS

>tfw Lee isn't Magic Johnson

>>27957

You speak like you already know what's happening when it does come out until Tuesday. The trailer isn't even out yet.

>>27958

I agree. Eyebrows aren't much to go on.

What if Vaughn is handsome jack?

>>27967

I'd like to see her "serving" at least one customer too, but in a different way… A rap battle, of course. ;)

>>27968

>A rap battle, of course

>rap

>rape

>"Raped, of course :)"

>>27968

>>27969

I knew these jokes were co_ming the moment I read that post.

Trailer for TftB episode four

>>27971

neat

>>27971

Took them long enough.

Also, do people really not know what penultimate means?

>>27971

Sweet, I can't wait to see what happens next!

>>27955

I just realized nobody else answered this, so I might as well try. I think books would be an unlikely source of what life was like before the apocalypse as they'd be hard to come by unless the people where in an area that had a library or something. People who lived before the apocalypse would most likely tell ZA kids what life was like before they were born. Their morals and ideals would very depending on their survival companion of course, but I think ZA kids would hold their own survival above all else.

>>27975

Is…is it a spinoff?

>>27971

Man, they're either hiding Vaughn very well, hate Douganon with a passion, or just completely forgot about him. I caught a glimpse of his glasses, but then I realized it was from the previous episodes.

>>27973

Think of the average Telltale fan.

>>27975

When's this start? Today? I forgot about this and what it even is. Is it that LA one?

I'll definitely stream it at some point, though.

>>27977

It premieres this Sunday at 9PM EST. Supposedly it shows how the ZA started.

>>27978

Ah, so they took the cool thing about The Walking Dead and decided: let's throw that out the window and show how it started,

>>27980

>I wonder if Kirkman has a say in this, or if he's just letting AMC run with it?

I just checked and he has credit as creator, executive producer, and writer.

>I was also thinking, what about the stuff Telltale did with TWD? They put a definite date for day zero with those Crawford tapes, and I'm not sure if Kirkman had intentionally avoided that on purpose.

Well the show doesn't share the same continuity as the games/comics so I'm sure that won't be a problem.

Here's the trailer for anyone interested by the way.

>>27981

Wait, so this guy has a premonition about the ZA?

And it's set in modern times with smartphones?

What the hell?

I'm guessing this is its own canon, then. Honestly, that's probably a good thing. I can't see anything this brings to the table that TWD or other zombie media doesn't. Feels more like a zombie movie trailer than a long-running series with characters we're supposed to care about.

>>27986

You would have gotten her out of the hat earlier if you had picked her in episode 2.

>>27988

Ayy so is it out yet?

>>27989

yes it has been for almost a day now here

>>27990

What makes it your favorite episode? Spoiler free please, I still gotta get home to DL it.

>>27991

I really can't tell without spoiling all the funny stuff, just play it. It's the best yet in my opinion

>>27993

Can you really blame them? They did the same thing with TWD Season 2's best episode.

>>27994

To be fair, TWD Season 2's best episode probably was 6/10

Anyway, I really liked this episode. Not much to say. Scooter is a legend, Jack is too, Yvette is a cunt, high jinks are fun, some choices matter and the consequences of them tend to specifically leave you Vaughnless for two episodes in a row now. Which is weird, but beats no consequences. Also Jack-a-pedia is still a great resource, and worth a replay if you don't have it.

My personal complaint is that Loader Bot took a backseat this episode, as did Vaughn, even if you have him with you. There's not a lot of time left for them to shine. It kind of feels like their arcs have been dropped, Vaughn's especially. Maybe it's just me though.

>>27993

IGN has been shit and irrelevant for years, dude.

>>27995

Vaughn can go with you?

>>27997

Not to Helios, but if you support Athena's vengeance he won't just disappear for the whole episode. He basically has two scenes, but it beats having zero.

>>27998

Ah I didn't, and apparently he's off having a party with that scientist.

Also, considering none of them are determinant, it was kind of weirs how Vallory's goons and August went with you and then proceeded to do nothing.

By the way, a guy from the /lisg/ steam chat showed me a picture of the un-used beat up Gryff model from GoT.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d18ee19d06a81f3ba3bd7771c0123df/tumblr_inline_nrw7b3wLZR1s2dnsu_500.png

>>28002

Shit, that looks bad-ass. Why couldn't they use this model instead of having his eye grow back?!

>>28003

Telltale ran out of time. Up top, someone's cracking the whip to get the episodes out earlier because fans are complaining they're taking too long to make.

>>28006

As someone who ships Rhys and Fiona, I would be totally okay with this. I'd at least get some schadenfreude out of it.

What send-off did you give Scooter? It better have been [kiss]

>>28011

That would be rad as shit and really hard to implement too.

I'm really more curious is they really did kill Scooter off for good. That would be a rather cool and bold choice for what is, essentially, just a side game.

>>28012

I am shipping trash and so I had to protect my ship, so it was just a handshake for me. After all, he is a main franchise character. You never know if he has that crazy Ramsay Bolton plot armor or not.

I kicked myself at not choosing the Cowboy Bebop reference as the sendoff message, though. I panicked and didn't have enough time to look at the options properly.

>>28012

Wait, you could kiss him?

Fuck, I hugged him because I thought that was the closest option.

>>28014

See ya, space cowboy.

>>28009

Hail to the king, baby

>>28015

Yeah. It was a very sweet little thing, just on the cheek. I haven't played any Borderlands games so I don't know much about him or the games, but he was a big time cool-guy and I think he earned a little sugar.

>>28014

I felt the Catch A Ride! was more appropriate, I'm glad I chose it.

>>28013

Honestly, Tales could easily be called Borderlands 3 with how much major plot stuff happens.

>>28009

I wouldn't day Vaughn betrayed him.

Check this out, possible future spoilers for Tales http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lxmoCwyxYX But I found it on /v/, so obviously take it with a grain of salt

>>28019

That….definitely seems like ending stuff. Looks promising for Rhysha fans, I guess.

It seems like Rhys ends up running Atlas, which I guess makes sense as they pointed out the whole deed to Atlas thing twice.

>>28021

you sound like the devs who begged people to stop making porn of her

>>28024

10/10

>>28020

**It all depends on when this was made. The series has been good, don't get me wrong, but it's been rewritten at least once for sure, twice possibly.

>>28024

>dick and balls aren't green

5/10, at best

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Vy6kTb3J6H

Spoiler for ep 5.

>>28030

Neat. It doesn't make much sense, but there's clearly a lot of dialogue that isn't there.

>>28034

If they didn't want people to fap to her, maybe they shouldn't have given her a big pair of tits and made her walk in nothing but a corset for one half of the game.

>>28029

>>28034

Because the Burch paradox.

>emasculated man obsessed with non-hetero relationships

>but can't write non-hetero relationships for shit

>or hetero relationships

I try to reject Athena and Janey as 'canon' because it's a shitty pairing of two shitty characters by a very shitty man.

>>28036

That's fair.

>>28019

>>28027

>>28030

>leaked spoilers

It's TWD S2 all over again!

>>28039

I miss when TWDG was good.

>>28024

>>28034

Why is most lewd SFM so awful, porny, or over-the-top? I'd really love to see any of these talented animators put together a realistic and tasteful but still explicit SFM.

>>28040

S1's still good. Honestly, while I was disappointed and often frustrated with S2 I don't think it's a total botch job some here make it out to be. It could've been so much worse.

>>28030

I had my suspicions since episode 2 but I'm now certain that Felix is the Stranger.

I hope you all enjoyed episode 4 and are excited for the finale! It's the best thing TT has done in a long while and I can't wait!!

>>28045

>It's the best thing TT has done in a long while and I can't wait!!

I know. Too bad nothing in it is controversial enough to spark a discussion.

>>28046

Do you think anything from Tales will bleed into whatever the next Borderlands game is?

>>28047

They did say it was canon, but I suppose they could change their minds if it's too inconvenient. Kirkman randomly changed his mind about TWD game, so Borderlands writers can do the same thing if they want to.

I never played any of the games from the main series, so I don't know too much about it. But I suspect that killing off notable characters, shipping them, reviving the main villain and putting Rhys in the position that the episode 5 leaks say he will end up in, can't just be ignored if the game is canon.

>>28050

I certainly wasn't expecting that.

>>28048

Taking our two player characters and making one the evil guy we have to kill and the other the hero would be so cheap.

Leaked dialogue apparently states that Rhys is outed from Hyperion but takes over Atlas and stays friendly with Fiona, who becomes a Vault Hunter, and apparently it's canon that Rhys and Sasha bang. One becomes a superstrong corporate exec, another becomes a superstrong Vault Hunter. Everyone's happy.

Man, there's something about Vallory stabbing Sasha that makes me hate seeing it in the same way I hate seeing someone hurt Clementine.

>>28056

It's because she's also a caramel qt.

So, after Rhys' voice modulator failed and he had to fake Vasquez's voice himself, do you think it was Troy Baker trying to mimic Patrick Warburton's voice, or was Patrick Warburton messing up his own voice?

>>28058

It was Troy Baker impersonating him, which made it all the more glorious.

Did any of you tell Yvette that you were really Rhys? It's a pretty badass moment for him if you ask me.

>>28060

We need a webm of that scene, stat

>>28060

Hell yeah. Though it might bite us in the ass later since Yvette was/is out to kill Rhys and Vaughn BECAUSE of what Rhys had in his head. Then again, with Jack now in Helios it might not matter. Still insanely badass though.

>>28061

Speaking of things we need webms of, I love the intro for this episode. I think this is my favorite one yet.

>>28063

You mean the spaceship one? Yeah, that was AWESOME.

>>28069

>Do you want me to give this a shot? I could try compressing it a bit better.

Sure. Embedded is the video I used. All of the other ones didn't have Fiona in the business outfit. Absolute heresy.

I'm a little worried about the final episode. How are they going wrap up the story being told to the masketta man so we're caught up to where Rhys gets captured and show what happens afterwards all in one episode?

>>28071

This also worries me. I was under the impression episode 4 would catch up to the present and then everything after would be without the frame story.

The annoying thing is they easily could have done it with like…ten more minutes. Rhys is exactly where he needs to be for the beginning of the game to happen. All that needed to happen then was for Fiona (and co?) to escape, Gortys to somehow be disassembled and fired back down to Pandora and that's pretty much it.

>>28072

They wanted episode 4 to end on a cliffhanger with the final choice. I also expected episode 4 to end at the "beginning" of the game.

I just started Episode 4 and I don't understand why Fiona and Sasha get so angry if you tell them about Handsome Jack. Maybe it's been too long since I played the first three episodes and I don't know Borderlands lore well enough?

>>28074

Well, he was the main villain of Borderlands 2. Also, they didn't like Rhys lying for so long I guess. They forget their anger pretty quickly, though.

>>28075

I figured as much. Better to get it out in the open. I also never played Borderlands 2, so I don't know how evil he really was. I just know that he's evil.

I'm at the Psycho Pizza Party part and I'm a little confused as to what Jack is talking about "what happened between us." It's been a while since I played. u_u;

>>28076

>I'm a little confused as to what Jack is talking about "what happened between us."

I'm pretty sure he's talking about how you treated him if you didn't trust him at the end of episode 2 and/or you didn't agree to work with him in episode 3.

>>28069

>I bet some people get off on it, though

I know exactly who you're talking about. I'm sure he'd love that scene.

>Do you want me to give this a shot?

Yeah, I was mostly asking for you to make it when I requested it.

>>28076

A lot of people say Jack really is the "good guy" or at least an antihero. I'd be inclined to agree.

>>28079

He was kind of a good guy who went insane and turned full evil.

>>28079

>>28080

Welp, I just finished Episode 4 of Tales. Can't say I'm shocked about Yvette. I kind of saw that coming. However, what the fuck went on with Sasha showing up at the end with Yvette? There's no way she'd sell out her own sister.

I also told Jack to go fuck himself as I have been for the whole series. I don't trust him one bit.

The episode was pretty hilarious and I enjoyed it. Except for what happened to Scooter. Catch a ride, buddy. ;_;7

>>28081

>what the fuck went on with Sasha showing up at the end with Yvette?

She was captured.

I fixed your fucked up spoiler by the way.

>>28082

Thanks, babe. :*

I was actually sad about Scooter. I liked him a lot in Borderlands 1.

>>28082

Nah, she sold us out.

>>28084

If anything it's open ended. We won't know for sure until the final episode.

>>28088

Just like with Scooter and Fiona, Maya is too good for him, and the attraction seems one-sided at least

>>28089

But Krieg is actually attractive. Look at his abs.

>>28090

>>28091

It's the rest of him I don't like

>>28087

We all do, friend.

>>28087

Nateanon? Is that you?

>>28095

Aren't we all Nateanons, though?

>>28095

No! Just me, sorry. I wish we could summon Nateanon though

New thread >>28102