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OPanon ## Board Moderator Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 22:52:49 No.4290

The fate of /ttgg/ rests in your hand's anons. We need to decide what needs to be spoilered, and what should be deleted. My decision to spoiler a post yesterday that was from a lewd edit was apparently very controversial.

I want to know what you anons think, so post your opinions here.

This strawpoll is on whether or not you guys want me to remain a mod. I will step down if you think I should.
http://strawpoll.me/2867346

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 22:55:57 No.4292

In my opinion, pretty much anything lewd should be spoilered. That way people who don't want to see it don't have to and those who don't mind have the option of looking at it. This could even apply to rule 34, but of course douganon would never allow that.

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 22:58:17 No.4294

Does Douganon run any of this shit or are you just acting on your own?

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 23:02:16 No.4295

>>4294
Douganon is the creator of this board, and can demod me whenever he sees fit. I already offered to step down if people wanted me to.

Everything that started this shitfest though was my own doing. I didn't consult him before doing it so don't be upset with him.

Post last edited at 10/26/14 (Sun) 23:04:31

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 23:09:39 No.4296

>>4295
Just a tip in the future, you should be less confrontational when posting to others. If people are mad about a decision you've made, just ignore it because you'll make it worse if you try to argue with it.

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 23:16:33 No.4299

>>4290
Thank you OPanon. I want to first state that I'm not against the idea of spoilering lewd pics that aren't rule 34. I don't think that's the real issue here. I think the problem is that the pics that people are saying should be spoilered are not lewd at all, yet they feel they should be spoilered anyway. When this board was first created I asked douganon himself what would be allowed. To quote him he said
>I just want people to keep it PG-13 in here when it comes to Clem.
Now I'm sure there are plenty of PG-13 movies where people are naked but only show from the shoulders up. That's exactly what the pic that was deleted showed. Yes, Clem was naked in it, but we didn't see anything other than her shoulders and face. As I've said before, it's all about the context, not the subject itself that makes it lewd. Now douganon also said this
>Refrain from saying things that are just flat out lewd, or posting a crop if it's very obvious that something nsfw is going on.
This is the reason I take objection to the pics in question needing to be spoilered. There's nothing going on in the pics. Hell even in the full version of the "full rig support" isn't that lewd because nothing's happening. She's just standing there. I do believe that the full version of the pic should be spoilered, but if it's just a crop of her face from it, then what's the problem? I have more to say about this, but I'll need to download some images in order to make my case.

Anonymous 10/26/14 (Sun) 23:15:44 No.4300

>>4296
Thanks for advice, I'll definitely do that next time

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 00:41:22 No.4331

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>>4299
Now that I have the pic I wanted to use, let me give some examples of what I think should be allowed, and what should be spoilered. Because I do think that there are some non-r34 lewd that shouldn't be allowed.
Stuff like cropped pics of her face with nothing lewd going on should be allowed.
Stuff like pic related, or Clem in her underwear should be allowed under a spoiler.
Stuff like that pic of Clem with a condom in her mouth, or an animated gif/webm that's a close up of her face during sex should not be allowed.
I can understand wanting to spoiler a pic of Clem in her underwear, but needing to spoiler a close up of her face, just because it's from the same pic, is overdoing it.

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 03:08:22 No.4346

>>4299
>>4331
Thanks for voicing your opinion anon.
>Stuff like pic related, or Clem in her underwear should be allowed under a spoiler.
>I can understand wanting to spoiler a pic of Clem in her underwear, but needing to spoiler a close up of her face, just because it's from the same pic, is overdoing it.
Those two statements seem contrary, because the pic you spoilered is just a close up of her face.

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 18:00:33 No.4383

>>4346
But again, it's all about context. The pic of Clem in her underwear has nothing happening in it, so a crop of her face from it is okay. The pic I posted has something nsfw happening in it, which is why even though it's just her face, I spoilered it.

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 22:53:20 No.4420

>>4383
What is NSFW in that picture? I mean that is just a close of her face right? So shouldn't it not be spoilered by your logic?

I'm just trying to make sure I know where you stand

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 23:29:59 No.4421

>>4420
It's probably cropped from some of Croix's rule 34 stuff.

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 23:32:25 No.4422

>>4421
Okay, but then the stuff I spoilered, in his opinion, should be the right thing to do, because it was similarly cropped from r34 stuff

Or am I missing something here?

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 23:35:25 No.4423

>>4420
>>4422
I used a bad example, but in the uncropped version of the pic I posted here Lee is on top of her with his tongue out. That is nsfw, that is why that pic should be spoilered. With the pics in question, the one that was deleted and the one that was spoilered, there's nothing nsfw happening in them so they shouldn't need to be spoilered. That is what I'm trying to say here.

Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 23:37:40 No.4424

>>4423
Ah, okay.

Anonymous 10/28/14 (Tue) 15:12:32 No.4474

I'm completely against this kind of censorship altogether, and it's issues like this that make me feel badly that I hadn't first created this board before anyone else had a chance to, because I feared something like this would happen. This is the whole reason why people moved away from 4chan and /vg/ to begin with. Policing was out of control.

Moderation and censorship should always be kept to an absolute minimum. People should be allowed to say and do what they want and have the freedom to not look at things that offend them if they so choose. Spoilering posts and images should be reserved for actual, legitimate pornography, not "vaguely" or "subjectively interpreted" to be pornographic or because someone got offended. Deletion should not happen. Period.

Anonymous 10/28/14 (Tue) 16:21:10 No.4475

>>4474
My thoughts exactly.

Anonymous 10/28/14 (Tue) 18:55:40 No.4478

>>4331
>Stuff like that pic of Clem with a condom in her mouth, or an animated gif/webm that's a close up of her face during sex should not be allowed.
I want to retract my statement here. I may not like it, but images like that should fall under things that should be spoilered. Only actual rule 34 of Clem should be deleted, nothing else.