/tulpa/ - Tulpa

>>13742

Your guess is as good as anyone else's. My experience has come to reflect that tulpae are paranormal rather than psychological, and as such they can literally appear without prior effort. My tulpa tells me that reality is a network of destined events and experiences which are choreographed in order to create experiences that are beneficial for our consciousness. After all, at the end of the day, experience is the only thing that exists, or matters. But hey, could just be schizophrenia with nothing special or meaningful about it. Just depends on who you ask.

>before i start, i need to point out that Sarah really likes food

>any time i eat something, it's always one bite me, one bite her

>and since when she eats, it doesn't really disappear and she can't get fat, so there's not even any downside

>but early on, when it started, i had a long time struggle with actualy getting some feedback from her

>i even had a hiatus, when i just gave up on her for half a year because the lack of results drove me crazy

>it actualy got a lot better like 7 months ago, but couldn't really remember what was the reason

>one night before sleep, we lay in bed and talk about feelings

>ask her, what is it with her and eating

>what she said was:

"It's because how you've been busy all the time. Firstly, when you came back to me, you gave me the most attention when eating. I kinda connected it together, because food meant attention as well."

>it hit me so hard

>only then i trully understood what i've done before

>she waited such a long time for me, not even knowing if i ever come back

>and then she tells me she understands and still loves me

>i still can't forgive myself for abandoning her such a long time

>she never ever blamed me for literally anything i've done

>right now, she's sitting on my lap, telling me to erase the part where i was going to write that i don't deserve her love, saying "You shouldn't write lies."

>i wish i could ever repay her for all the support i get

>>14026

I'd say it sounds fake, mostly due to the fact that people love to make up stupid shit. On top of that, independent thought-forms generally go out of the way to avoid any conflict because they really don't care much about anything. You don't see any discussion about it, but tulpas generally act in a way that you would feel most comfortable with. A tulpa having a negative influence on its host is slated for dissipation, and nothing is actually stopping a tulpa from disassociating with whatever the host is throwing at it.

Tulpamancy, and other mental stuff, are very much based on how much you believe in it and your ability to do it. People have a tendency to jump to conclusions (as is human nature), and can end up believing in things that aren't helpful to the situation. (Person believes he can't just mentally block out his tulpa)

The solution to problems like this is to CALM THE FUCK DOWN and NOT MAKE A BIG DEAL OVER IT. Do some other stuff to distract you, like listen to some music, and you'll eventually notice that you're no longer thinking about the tulpa at all. This will make you believe you're more in control, making it more easy to push out any bullshit your tulpa throws at you.

If you're worried about control over your mind, try meditating. It's good for you, has actual advantages outside tulpamancy, and will make you feel more at ease at simply letting thoughts pass through you.

>>14027

Oh no no no, I'm not worried about not being in control. I just find the story absolutely hilarious, and it would have been even better had it been real. But it did seem fake to me.

I have a feeling aphantasia is a myth, some kind of word thrown around for people who never got to develop their imagination and visualization skills.

Please me prove me wrong, I'm serious and genuinely interested.

As for your question I remember reading various experiences of people in your case who managed to do it (try to google "Tulpa" and "aphantasia" and look around).

>>13960

>thinking something isn't impossible for others just because you're able to do it

wew

>>14014

Visualizing and the ability to visualize is a very wishy-washy concept. No one really describes "what visualizing is" in the same way, because it's not possible to accurately share your direct perceptions to others. You can't truly compare yourself to anyone else to see if you're normal or not when it comes to visualizing. It could be that aphantasia is real, but I'm pretty skeptical of the concept.

>>13935

>>13940

Oh I'm seeing it now.

>Well this is embarrassing

Why so? Oh perhaps you mean the 3 threads.

I haven't read your post yet but I will sometime soon. I'll post back if I have anything to say.

>>13935

I gotcha ya

The whole thing reminds me very much of myself.

https://crazyschizophrenicfatnazifaggot.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/2-doubts-about-stifling-tupal/

>>13970

Thanks! That's what’s I'm aiming for.

I find the nature of this practice, and writing about it, is immensely self referential. But I understand that people aren't interested in, and gain nothing from, a meandering pontification of me talking about myself. So I am making an effort to frame my experiences in a light that I feel is as relateable as possible.

And what's been really interesting to me is that, so far, although it's been quite challenging, I haven't had to really overlook anything. I have all this very specific, boring personal crap, but looking at it from the viewpoint of “Well, how can people in general relate to this? What does the dynamic of A, B, and C from my life mean to your average person?” (well, I should say, your average channer on /voluntarymentalillness/) Looking at it from that viewpoint helps me simplify and also, surprisingly, often enough, prioritize my personal experiences.

And I don’t think I would have been able to do that, I don’t think I would have been able to have been as thorough and specific about myself while maintaining relateability if it wasn’t for the common reference that we share to anime, otaku/hikikomori culture, and, I suspect, 4chan culture. So god bless the Japanese. Quite an amazing culture they have.

>>13708

>>13946

>>13949

Is this game actually cool?

>>13957

Pretty much one of the best games that came out since 2010. Decent replayability and great coop fun.

Story / dialogue can be confusing though and if you're not familiar with the way gameplay mechanics worked in the 90s you might not like it.

>>13979

I always wanted to try it out but I could never be bothered to download steam and suffer it's bullshit just to play one game.

>>13695

Stands are closer to thoughtforms than tulpas

>>13924

I agree about /x/, plus it seems word has been given to mods to automatically move Tulpa threads made on /x/ to /trash/ (which is hypocritical considering how awful and trolly 90% of /x/ is).

On the other hand I don't think /a/ would be such a bad place as long as you do it in a smart way (aka not making a thread "hey guyz there's this cool trick i know". There are often waifu/husbando threads popping up, or simply posts like "you'll never hug X why live". Bringing up Tulpa can work. Hell, this is how I learned about Tulpa after all, on /a/ in this exact same way. Whether you get roasted or not after posting this doesn't matter, there are a lot of lurkers, they'll see it and if they're interested they'll pursue the matter. There's also the "my friend told me about this and thinks it's ridiculous but it got me interested…" that occasionally happens.

>>13928

Truth be told, I learned about this from an anon on /a/, too.

>>13905

Pretty sure that number is broken.

Just saying, mod team is about 3 or 4 people.

>>13928

Who gives a shit about /x/ and /trash/ we're here on 8chan, entire board to ourselves.

Its been approximately 2-3 years and I still can only vaguely see her if at all when I try.

The only time I can see her is when I am half asleep/overtired. I just cant stay focused. It isn't helping I have no true reference for her because I made a normal looking person from features essentially. Even then its fuzzy and rarely 100% consistent at best.

I've tried making her in vidya game character creators and autistic drawings. But its not enough. Anyone able to help?

Please help me guys, I have a problem where I can't talk with my tulpa, I have been forcing for 5 months now and I feel her presence near me but we just can't seem to start a conversation that lasts up to a minute or goes deeper than just replying with yes and no answers. Does anyone have any tips?

>>13942

I found out about tulpas from /x/, I think they deserve some credit man, but you're right, we're in tulpa land now.

> The thought of a constant connection is both tiring and frighting for me.

Based on what I've read, your tulpa should leave you alone when you want to be left alone. Also, they are not constantly monitoring every thought in your head, you need to put a bit of effort in your "mind voice" to communicate with them, so that's not a problem either. Might there be any other reasons you are averse to having her location "with you"?

I haven't heard of putting them into a form or something. I have heard of people using bracelets or other trinkets to remind them to force and anything. If you want, you could try associating them with a physical object to strengthen her presence therein, but I still think that would be quite an inconvenience to her. I don't think a lot of sentient beings would want to be limited to dwelling within/close to an object. Based on that, I think it's best that you stick to the "normal" method, since she'd definitely give you some space if you needed it.

Keep in mind that I so far, my tulpa is still in development, so I might not be the one to consult about these matters. Good luck though.

Part 3

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/3wbqzm/tulpa_community_census_2015_part_3_raw_data/

>50% of hosts have had sex with their Tulpa(s)

I have to hand it to reddit, they are the only ones producing content of this caliber

Bisexuality increases as futa becomes reality

So I think I may have fucked up?

I don't know what the heck if this is a tulpa or if it's honestly something from the outside or if it's just my inner consciousness. This one changes constantly as if it changes depending on my situation, mood, or the time of day.

Generally takes a feminine tone, but as I have asked it has no true gender (being a possible mental construct). Most of the time this Voice sits in the back of my head and waits for me to think of a topic, then the conversations go. True conversations, two-sided conversations with altering viewpoints. Sometimes this can cause a loss of focus or traffic in thought.

Because the form constantly shifts, the Voice adapts names and shapes depending on the situation. Sometimes it's an animal, such as a totem animal. Sometimes it appears as a reminiscent of a Greek God or Primordial of my favorites. There are so many different faces and visages yet I have a hunch it all leads to the same source.

I don't feel I 'actively' created it in a conventional sense. I was just horribly outcast in my younger years to the point where isolation was my only protective measure. I don't have a "wonderland" or any of that other junk. It just appeared slowly one day and now it's ideals and principles are so strong that I feel it's almost like having a completely different person in reality.

What do you, more or less tulpa experts/practicioners, think of this?

>>13898

Apparently falling asleep while forcing actually harms your tulpa according to http://pastebin.com/MKTmbSWW

Now the threads work but the FP doesn't. Great.

>>13909

Not really. They're rather annoying/terrifying as they possess/corrupt her.

I just wish I had a good time for forcing. I'm too sleepy when I go to bed, too tired when I wake up and never remember during the day.

Guess what?

It took too long to submit your post.

Looks like 3 of the images at the top of this thread 404'd. That means when the thread finally comes up to speed there should be at least three responses above this one…

Things aren't allowed to be this shit in 2016. An imageboard run using a botnet of soup cans and string would probably do better than this.

Also, wasn't I supposed to be hypnotised by a pony or something earlier in this thread? Whatever happened to that?

':DROP TABLE Posts –'

Well what are you trying to accomplish with your tulpa now? Imposition, possession, anything else?

Imaginary friends for neckbeards lmao.

I don't get the purpose of this post nor what you're expecting from us. There are hundreds of threads, guides and such available for you to read and gain more knowledge from.

>So, I'm new to tulpas

>So the whole point of this post is to ask for some help or tips

Here's a genuine tip then : read everything you can find until there's nothing left. Then only if you have a specific problem (i.e. "how do you guys do that") ask for help.

Congratz on your Tulpa though.

>>13812

>eating

Hey, can you specify how that works? I've considered interpreting the experience of eating (as well as other things) as if the tulpa is experiencing it with me; instead of 'just me experiencing the joys of eating,' there is 'me and someone else.' But I've been apprehensive about this, as it seems too hands-on, i.e. puppeting.

>drawing

Same question, if you would, please. How does that work? Do you see her works in great detail, or is it a more general, conceptual experience, as you would see or read something in a dream?

>>13826

Oh jeez louise. You two must be insufferable.

>>13812

>>13828

Hey, actually, in regards to my reservations about "eating together," I was looking at some notes I jotted down awhile ago about this subject, and I discovered another reason why I was uncertain with forcing like this:

>Another technique I have stumbled across is bringing the developing tulpa ‘into me.’ Like, where it is ‘in my body with me,’ living and experiencing what I am in that moment. I have sidelined this technique currently, due to the potential that I will ‘lose myself’- where my experience of myself in my life ‘will not feel like me anymore.’ Where it won’t necessarily even be the tulpa, but where it will be like I’m trapped in my head and can’t get out, and my life is on autopilot, being lived by god knows what, but not me.

>>13826

Gay pseudoscience feeding off of morons.

>>9750

also, in a scenario where i would have my tulpa stay in her section, since my wonderland is infinitely expanding, she technically has infinite space, not only that, but if she was lonely she could technically make her own tulpas, separate from herself.

>>9750

I like the idea of a room she can have to herself, I'll do that for my tulpa.

What kind of rules do you have for her in relation to the real world? For example I give my tulpa full access to my conscious, subconscious, and memories, as well as my senses of the outside world (if she is able to access any of this anyway, I'm not sure how much she does access). I also made this rule very early on for two reasons, one I want switching to go smoothly when we get to that point, and two I want her to know I trust her.

>>9751

I'm not sure I would let my tulpa make more tulpas and have even dissuaded her from doing that, at least for the time being, I want to work on building her up before having to deal with other tulpas.

>>9750

>i give my tulpa complete control of it's self,

>so long as it doesn't use that power to hurt me

Sounds like a Non-Aggression Principle deal aka a libertarian's wet dream.

Easy to implement in resource abundance like wonderland.

Not wholly without risk but good enough in a trusting relationship. Risks like >>9751

>>9753

>I give my tulpa full access to my conscious, subconscious, and memories, as well as my senses

We have this too. Decided early on to just share everything both ways. Not a constant flow but door is always open kind of deal.

I think both of us could hide something without the other knowing, were we so inclined but it's yet to come up.

But a major reason I agreed with complete transparency to start with is tulpa will be less likely to, from incompetence or otherwise, do harm.

>>9750

Mine can do whatever she wants, I don't have any set boundaries or control over her whatsoever, however I don't give my tulpa the rights a human deserves, she gets the rights that suit her needs.

>>9754

Ours is like that as well, it's an open door relationship, except there isn't really a door anyway, just an entryway. I'm at a point where I'm in a constant state of passive forcing when I'm conscious, I don't know about when I'm unconscious, and she can even possess me without me thinking about it for around a second. If she ever did decide to hurt me or fuck with me severely there would be equally severe consequences since in the end I am the one with control in our relationship.

Germans, and I guess English, always have the craziest and most innovative music. Is that just me?

I haven't decided what I want my tulpa to sound like. I'm focusing on personality. Things like looks and voice I've decided to leave up to her.

I want him to have Kylo Ren's voice, but it's hard as long as it's in theaters. I've seen the movie twice in the cinema now, so I think I know his voice pretty well, but it would really help if I could play back Ren's lines at home. I think I might download a shitty cam version because I could only find short lines from the trailer, but it's not how he regularly speaks. But I doubt there is a cam compilation of only Kylo's scenes out yet. If anyone could help me out with this, that would be great :).

>>13863

/r/

megalinks

then use the search bar

I wanna get my own house so I have a nice relaxing place to live and meditate.

And of course keep talking to my Tulpa.

I wish imposition was easier

>I'm at my mothers house. She's a Christian, so I can't bring up my tulpa making.

Kek, when my mum found out about it she was scared I was gonna convert to Buddhism

Anyway I was hoping I could finally get her independent this year, things were going well up until I fucked up; set back progress a bit but we'll get there

Spent three nights in a row in a little shack overlooking my family's raspberry fields and neighboring fields. It sits on top of a little hill set just before a ravine and is kind of shrouded in little trees and such but wind still gets in.

Shack has seen disuse and there was only a dirt floor in there so I made a little straw bed with an old wool blanket over top and put in a fire pit. I slept in a sleeping bag on the straw bed and watched the fire from there. Read Don Quixote a lil bit. Mostly just got comfy.

The night of Christmas day was a clear sky with a full moon and I woke up to frost. Winter has been unusually mild. The nights since then have been much, much more winterlike.

I made some nice Christmas themed clothes to but on a 3D model of her. They were super cute.

I made her a box big enough for a single chocolate, but there's always one in there when it's opened. She can make it whatever she likes.

``"Hopefully I don't pig out too much" -tulpa``

>>13850

Welp. Forgot formatting stuff. Was it the apostrophe instead of the one on the tilde key? I always forget… test