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HERE COMES A NEW AGE https://8ch.net/tulpa/rules.html

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 No.15692[Reply]

Updated 4/24/18

Welcome to the new age of /tulpa/. I am Lowlel and will be your new board owner. Things are going to be a little different from back in the day but not too much.

Some notable changes:

New theme

Post IDs are gone for now, may add them back if necessary

Word filters are gone

New banners will be added

Cyclical discussion thread planned

Board logs is now open to the public along with ban logs

I am very hands off in moderation but there will be a few rules:

Keep with the 8chan Global Rules https://8ch.net/faq.html

No Spam

Keep posts related to tulpa or the community

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 No.16204

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The update!

Hello! I hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday. Just popping in to let you all know some board changes formally, albeit super late. Through some drama and shenanigans the /tulpa/ discord has been deleted. I know a lot of people asked me to make a new one but honestly I feel like a discord would just detract from the board activity.

On to our next point, Snack has been removed as a Janitor. I'll be honest this is mostly because he deleted our damn discord but it felt like most people did not trust him as a janitor anyway.




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 No.19386[Reply]

(Part 1)

OP Foreword: Reposting this OP I made from /fringe/; I only found this board yesterday after having used /fringe/ for years (spoiler: magic is imaginary bullshit only good for general thinking, vague self-improvement with mixed results, and creativity). Before I begin just telling you all I don't give a shit about the established tulpamancers or what you all think are valid terms and am just going to tell you what I figured out based on first-hand experience. Don't like it? -I don't care I win either way since it worked for me and my imagination's non-vivid as hell. To be frank if /fringe/ is any indication I'm guessing half of you have no idea what you're doing but hey, I'll at least say if you're into tulpamancy then you can't be entirely stupid if you're that intuitively able to understand the pragmatic value of imaginary friends -which they are by the way let's not kid ourselves here this is literally advanced imaginary friends for people who have too much time and horny genitals. I encourage criticism, complaints, and condemnation -though in this case the latter two probably aren't necessary since this'll be a pretty straightforward milquetoast guide and summary. Also if you're into Homestuck hit me up you can find me easily anywhere by Googling Epyc Wynn -Homestuck people tend to be more interesting.

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Applied Tulpamancy is the act of creating, altering, influencing, or affecting imaginary beings in a way which benefits the one doing so (the tulpamancer). It is a pragmatic field useful for thinking, learning, writing, drawing, philosophy, rhetoric, business, and hypothetically anything since the limit is the tulpamancer's imagination.

Ways Any Tulpa Can Be Used:

>Organized Knowledge: bureaucratically focusing on a subject or topic in the background, occasionally reminding the tulpamancer of it/discussing it with them while tying it to other bits of information in the tulpamancer's mind. Best to keep a tulpa focused on a subject rather than a specific thing; for instance a tulpa focused on locating things is more fleshed out and thoughtful on average than a tulpa focused on finding tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.19387

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(Part 2)

Restrictions The Normal Tulpamancer Faces:

<Limited Free Will: The average tulpa has (this number is purely as frame of reference with no statistical validity) 5-20% free will in any given moment, though this can increase outside this range depending on circumstances such as strong emotions or focus. The remaining 95-80% is the tulpamancer's free will acting out the tulpa's thoughts and desires like a puppet. It is near impossible to have a tulpa residing entirely in the tulpamancer's mind at 100% free will as at that point the tulpamancer would be dealing with a split personality. It is for the best the tulpamancer doesn't have tulpas with that much free will as they could significantly impede the tulpamancer's own free will or would require a lot of mental power to make exist.

<Limited Form: The tulpa's body/imaginary environment is barely imagined at any given moment as it requires a great deal of mental energy to picture it continuously. Usually the tulpamancer will only imagine the presence of that specific tulpa, because imagining every specific feature is taxing on the mind, especially when done for an extended period of time on top of specific physical movements and actions. The tulpamancer additionally will imagine that things happened to the tulpa and the tulpa was in certain places, rather than actively imagining all of those events and locations, in order to save mental energy.

<Limited Sensation: Cannot imagine the physical sensations such as touching or hearing the tulpa as easily as actually physically touching or hearing a person. On average the tulpamancer can imagine a physical sensation at about 10-40% of the actual intensity if it were occurring; this is again a statistic solely estimated from my personal experience/observations. This varies from person to person -some people are a lot better at imagining sensations than others.

<Limited Knowledge: Tulpas residing entirely in the tulpamancer's mind cannot be anything more than the information the tulpamancer has. An imaginary being the tulpamancer makes cannot know something the tulpamancer doesn't, outside of secretPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.19398

Where is the guide?


 No.19410

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>>19398

Tulpamancy is not hard enough to warrant more than a couple long-posts. This one-page summary IS the guide because no one needs any more than that. Anything more would be unnecessary verbosity for the sake of profit and random trivia on various things you can choose to imagine.

~E p y c [redacted] W y n n




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 No.19076[Reply]

Post your reaction when you remember how long you've spent making a tulpa, and that they still haven't spoke.

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 No.19385

>>19380

If you have time to be shitposting on 8ch you have time to be talking to your tulpa.

>>19381

Believe what you want, but this "compulsive liar" spends at least 30 minutes active forcing with one tulpa a day while spending the entire day talking to all of them throughout the day. I suggest setting an alarm that goes off every hour, and forcing yourself to talk to them every time it goes off.


 No.19406

kind of butthurt that i spent 5 months forcing without ever parroting and pupettig, litteraly carrying my tulpa around wonderland like a dead body so that i'd avoid pupetting her from one place to another. while now I believe pupetting is the ONLY way to coax anything out of one eventually


 No.19407

>>19406

A tulpa is just you parroting and puppeting unconsciously. You do it to the point that it's so convincing to you that it might as well be another real person. It's as simple as that.


 No.19408

>>19407

at the time i was lead to believe that parroting and pupetting were wrong so i never did it

now the idea of a tulpa being created without parroting and forcing ludicrous

i abandoned her for a while, and her name and presence is surpsiringly strong. I intended to start a fresh tulpa but I instnatly started using her old name and kind of felt like she was naturally 'there'. so it wasn't for nothing.


 No.19409

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>>19408

Tulpamancers have a bias to disliking ideas that point towards either, tulpas not having free will, or being real people. It should be apparent that's the case when they highly triggered when you're torturing tulpas, or making tulpa waifus.

Just remember tulpamancy is all about making yourself insane, and that's what tulpamancers are.




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 No.18115[Reply]

I figured a questions that don't deserve their own thread would be good to consolidate some of the posts on this board. I'll start:

How long would you recommend someone force per day?

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 No.19401

>>19399

>>19400

I wouldn't say what I have is a tulpa yet. I think we are, for lack of a better word, still dividing? But once or twice I've had a response that I think was original. Sometimes, it's me thinking about what they would do or say in a given situation, and increasingly more often I get the feeling of simultaneity, like there's another person saying the same thing as me at the same time as me. I/we have come to the conclusion that it's not worth stressing out too much about which thoughts are whose at this point, but again, I do think once or twice there was a response that wasn't my will or intention.


 No.19402

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Alright guys, we finally proved tulpas are a big meme and everyone who claims to have one is just role-playing or delusional, time to go home.


 No.19403

>>19400

What tulpa forms to you co-exist with anon?


 No.19404

>>19403

A little girl cat slave.


 No.19405

>>19402

>delusional

Well, yes. That's the end goal of a tulpamancer, that's the whole point. What did you think was happening here?




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 No.19382[Reply]

Any tips for visualization? Should I do closed eyes or open eyes visualization? I just want to be able to see my tulpa with my mind's eye, I'm not trying to impose her yet.

 No.19383

Leave your eyes just barely open. In meditation practice they teach you not to leave your eyes fully open since you get distracted by everything you see. If you close them fully then your mind wanders easily. If you let your eyelids droop so they almost close then you get this nice inbetween where it's easier to focus and clear your mind to see your tulpa. I try to do this as much as I can but my eyelids get a little twitchy sometimes doing it which is distracting.


 No.19384

Closed eyes is pretty good, but so is opened eyes, it's a personal thing. Main thing you want to know about improving your visualization is that say goodbye to real life, hour a day is not going to cut it.

Knowing some basic rendering skills from drawing helps.

Visualize yourself over letting your mind wander always.

Your brain will try stop you from achieving your goal, it will erase all your progress as soon as possible.

Don't let your inability to understand how something looks, stop you from visualizing it. Visualize a crusty version of it.

Or just take psychedelics.


 No.19388

This depends a lot on your tulpas form but having a reference can have a lot. I know back in the day people struggled with ponies because of how unrealistic their designs can be. Really just keep at it, because visualization is a skill like anything else, If you find yourself day dreaming spend specific time with your tulpa and try very hard to focus on them


 No.19393

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>>19388

Form doesn't matter at all, your visualization skills will always be the same, and knowing how to visualize a pony is piss easy, compared to a physical human, where you have to remember every piece of the body.

A pony lets your brain fill in all the gaps, as long as you draw the eyes in the same style, and draw in vaguely similar shape to a horse, it will look like a mlp cartoon. It'd take me a couple of hours to know how to draw a pony in all angles, because looking at a picture vs sucking that information in from drawing are two different things.




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 No.19376[Reply]

Why did you make a tulpa? Just wondering. I made mine because I was lonely and wanted someone to talk to.



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 No.19370[Reply]

I think I created a tulpa on accident when I was 5 and it hasn't gone away since despite making no efforts to keep it alive.

I'm not sure where to go from here.

 No.19371

How independent is your tulpa? That is, do you need to control it for it to talk? If you want it to become more independent then follow some guides or whatever, basically just interact with it as if it was a real person as much as you can. If you want to get rid of it, you have to stop taking with and thinking about it, which can be hard.


 No.19372

>>19371

Basically, it has a presence and a personality of it's own. I don't control it as I never even intended it to exist. But randomly it pops in.

I know for a fact it's not a split personality or anything like that because it never controls me, it merely interacts with me.




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 No.19271[Reply]

Help, /tulpa/.

I started making a tulpa a long time ago (like four or five years) but I was really skeptical and I didn't force consistently so she never became vocal or showed any sign of sentience (and if she did, I disregarded it because I always doubted both her and myself a lot). I still want a tulpa and I feel bad for her for starting to create her and then abandoning her so I really want this to work but I don't know what to do. I'm still a bit skeptic and I don't really know what to do when forcing because I've tried everything and nothing seems to work. I really want tulpas to be real and I really want to have a tulpa, please help.

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 No.19365

>>19271

itt

>local incel bootyblasted over tulpamancer being around more pussy than he is


 No.19366

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>>19365

>pussy

Nice jest, but no ones jealous about the clones of yourself with the imaginary holes you wish you could reproduce with like an actual pussy.


 No.19367

>>19364

So you admit a tulpa is a distinct ego and supergo, but they should not be treated as if they have their own opinions and wants and are capable of making their own decisions?


 No.19368

>>19365

>is a self-identified "tulpamancer"

>uses "incel" unironically

>engages in progressive identity politics for imaginary friends

>"I get pussy"

I got a good chuckle mate


 No.19369

i hit my tulpa all the time

but it's okay because she hits me back




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 No.19358[Reply]

How does your tulpa feel about the Jews?

 No.19359

i browsed /pol/ enough that my tulpas became racist and redpilled




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 No.7888[Reply]

So I have started the process of creating a tulpa and was speculating on some of the religious implications of a Tulpa.
I'm also pretty sure there is nothing in my religion against tulpas.

1. Do Tulpas have or develop their own souls
2. Does a Tulpa die when you die?
3. Are you both judged by God together or separately?
4. Are your deeds in this life pooled together or are they judged separately?
5. Are you going to be with your tulpa in the afterlife.
6. #5 if so you they still be in your head or will they be their own entity?

And I'm sure everyone will answer these differently depending on their religion but I am mostly interesting from the Abrahamic Faiths perspective

I'm Muslim by the way
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 No.19128

>>19118

>reddit spacing

>giving a three line post a subject

>he filled out the email field

Holy shit. Lurk moar or go back to reddit.


 No.19270

>>7890

>the data simply disappears.

Not quite. The useful data disappears. However, with enough iterations or an accurate reassembly, it's there again.


 No.19338

>1. Do Tulpas have or develop their own souls

A Tulpa IS a soul

>2. Does a Tulpa die when you die?

Yes, it is tethered to your body.

>3. Are you both judged by God together or separately?

It has independent thoughts. Separately.

>4. Are your deeds in this life pooled together or are they judged separately?

Tulpa can possess. Separately.

>5. Are you going to be with your tulpa in the afterlife.

Hells yeah, I'm rasing her Roman Catholic.

>6. #5 if so you they still be in your head or will they be their own entity?

Of course she's getting her own body.


 No.19350

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(Protestant who's close to becoming an Orthodox) Christian.

1. Well, unless God were to create some Tuplas and give them souls (making them more spirits than anything else I guess), they'll either be imaginary friends or demons.

2. If they're an imaginary friend (and God doesn't will otherwise), they'll die when I die, and perhaps not come in the afterlife.

3. (depends if God wills otherwise to make them more human) no

4. Would two peoples deeds in their life be pooled together when judged? Would a just God do that?

5. no, but depends if God wills otherwise.

6. Whatever God wills it to be.


 No.19351

>1. Do Tulpas have or develop their own souls

No, unless they kill you and take your soul(s).

>2. Does a Tulpa die when you die?

Yes, unless they already killed you to replace you or gather your souls.

>3. Are you both judged by God together or separately?

Separately, although the act of creating one I'd imagine would be judged by whichever god(s) you choose to pay respect to.

>4. Are your deeds in this life pooled together or are they judged separately?

Separately.

>5. Are you going to be with your tulpa in the afterlife

Yes, unless they already killed you to replace you or gather your souls.

>6. #5 if so you they still be in your head or will they be their own entity?

This is probably the most open to interpretation; I'll admit my understanding of afterlife in most faiths is limited, but if we're led to believe that it is a 'paradise', I would assume they would gain their own tangible, separate form.




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 No.18135[Reply]

We have more than a couple of personal progress threads on the front page right now, I thought it would be a good idea to make a general progress/blogposting thread so everyone can share their progress, experiences and/or fun stories without having to make a new thread every time.

You can use a name or trip to identify yourself so your posts don't get mixed with others'. (I'm not encouraging namefagging, don't use your name outside of this thread).

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 No.19246

>>19245

One I know of is to visualize a ball. And you throw it back and forth between you and your tulpa. You pick a word, then they say a word that’s associated with it. Like if you say “red” they may say “Apple” or “fire”


 No.19247

>>19246

hit send before I was ready and each time you catch the ball you say an associated word, then throw the ball back.


 No.19250

>>19245

Have them count to 100 while you're focused on something else. If you accidentally help them or they lose count, they have to start over. They win if they reach 100 and you win if they give up.


 No.19289

Tulpa is making me eat healthy food again…


 No.19339

Tulpa pushed me into the shower. The water was cold.




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 No.18374[Reply]

Does anyone regret making a tulpa? Do you miss anything you could do before making a tulpa that you can't do anymore? Has your life changed in ways that you didn't expect and you don't really like?

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 No.19316

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>>19315

Oh right, you can't answer a simple question because you are talking out of your ass.


 No.19318

>>19314

>>19316

>schizophreniac

No specific "suicide statistic" was mentioned, you illiterate retard. They were implying that you would kill yourself at some point in your life (hopefully). I guess that's a bit much for someone with severe Asperger's to digest.


 No.19319

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>>19318

Oh well, my bad. Thanks for clearing it up.

And don't bet on my killing myself, your tears of butthurt bless me with a strong will to live (not that I'm depressed in the first place).


 No.19320

>>19319

Too late, I already bet a couple grand on it.


 No.19321

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>>19320

Don't be upset, money isn't everything.




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 No.19317[Reply]

Alright, roast me, boys. For things other than not having a script.

Also, something Ryn (my tulpa – I've referred to her as "Kat" on here years ago, both are short for "Katheryn") and I have realized after a bit more research involving gut bacteria and such; there probably isn't such thing as a subconscious in your brain. Our understanding was your subconscious is where a lot of your lesser known desires, thoughts you're not aware of, and all your dreams come from, but in reality it's a mix of things – with one of those things in the mix being gut bacteria. Apparently gut bacteria affects things like craving, but also things like anxiety, depression, and schizophernia. Here's a short video on it from Kurzgesagt since listing a bunch of articles is a bit much. https://youtu.be/VzPD009qTN4

Anyway, we might make a better version of our "Tulpa Incubation" video sometime, but haven't been feeling very inspired to do so as of late.



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 No.19295[Reply]

How do you know your tulpa isn't a philosophical zombie?

 No.19296

>>19295

Why does it matter? You can't know anyone other than yourself isn't a philosophical zombie, does that do anything to change how you treat them?


 No.19302

A Tulpa isn't a philosophical zombie if it has a capacity of possessing ideas inside of your brain.




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 No.19207[Reply]

Other than it being a pathetic way to die, is there anything wrong with and is it feasible to create a Tulpa who is an ideal (psychological) version of yourself and having them take over and eventually "kill" you?

pic unrelated

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 No.19261

>>19258

Why would you think a lack of things like empathy, compassion, and fear would be good? Those are important aspects of the human condition.

>>19260

Sounds more like servitors or thoughtforms instead of tulpas. Usually they dissipate on their own if you ignore them. /fringe/ has some books in their library that cmight be helpful to you.


 No.19262

>>19261

My life and depression got exponentially better after I no longer could feel empathy, guilt and remorse. Fear is still kinda here but not as strongly as before.


 No.19283

>>19258

>I didn't feel empathy or compassion or fear as strong as before

Yeah murdering your daughter in cold blood will result in that. Inhuman scum.


 No.19284

>>19210

Holy shit!

I just finished reading this and it's kind of disturbing .__.

I actually got a bit mad about how stupid they were, but I think this is actually a very useful reading for those people who are getting into tulpamancy for the first time… I'm pretty new on it, but I have already seen a lot of people asking the same question as OP.

This is a must read in my opinion.


 No.19298

>>19207

It's called your inner voice. Follow it and let it kill your shallow ego.




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