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HERE COMES A NEW AGE https://8ch.net/tulpa/rules.html

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Updated 4/24/18

Welcome to the new age of /tulpa/. I am Lowlel and will be your new board owner. Things are going to be a little different from back in the day but not too much.

Some notable changes:

New theme

Post IDs are gone for now, may add them back if necessary

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Cyclical discussion thread planned

Board logs is now open to the public along with ban logs

I am very hands off in moderation but there will be a few rules:

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The update!

Hello! I hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday. Just popping in to let you all know some board changes formally, albeit super late. Through some drama and shenanigans the /tulpa/ discord has been deleted. I know a lot of people asked me to make a new one but honestly I feel like a discord would just detract from the board activity.

On to our next point, Snack has been removed as a Janitor. I'll be honest this is mostly because he deleted our damn discord but it felt like most people did not trust him as a janitor anyway.

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New discord group, check it out.

How do you feel about the fact that if this board had less moderation that this is the kinds of discussions that would happen?


that's the /trash/ server and also fuck off eerie



You think it's exclusive to /trash/? You don't think this would happen here?



I'm genuinely asking this and not saying it sarcastically.


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>incels creating girlfriend replacing tulpas, and realizing it's not enough for them, only acknowledging their existence when they can look like a big boy tulpamancer

>these so called "tulpas" blogging and bragging about their hosts sexuality and brilliance are supposd to be "independent"

>realizing that these are the general tulpa population.


Most of the old 8ch discord is there though, and /trash/ invaded ages ago, we're nearly the same thing at this point.




you mean rhetorically

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Lets not kid ourselves most of us love talking about our little brain demons. Show off your cuties and tell me about how they are better than mine. Pic related it's two of my tulpa.

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Nothing personnel, kid.



A little too generic, demons and angels are overdone by this point, but flip up phones are cool. I rate your OC 10 lolibabas out of 10.



Is it me, or the quality of your posts have been dropping down week by week, starting from around 3 months ago?

I have been stalking your sorry ass for some time so I can tell

Your tulpa is ok btw, but I think 4 seals is not enough at all.


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you might be possessed by actual evil spirits, try talking to /christian/



Nah, he's possessed by something much worse. A LARPing tulpa.

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What's gayer? Having a same sex tulpa or an opposite sex tulpa?

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>I would disagree.

It had nothing to do with the conversation. Incels were not brought up. Nothing related to inceldom was brought up. Its like if I suddenly broke off the middle of this sentence to go talk about Jews or something. The connection just isn't there. I'm not upset, I'm just letting you know that you're 100% instantly going to have people turn against you when you bring up unrelated things like that. It makes you look like a major autist.



It has everything to do with it, I said what I said as an analogy. People use tulpamancy for their insecurities, and the thought they they're achieving the same things as normies are, like sex, is a huge ego boost.

If you can't convince some one with logic, try attack at all fronts.



>People use tulpamancy for their insecurities

Well thats a pretty massive leap in logic.



The only way your brain can possibly know that it's not someone else touching you are your sight and touch. Sight is easy enough to remove from the equation even if you haven't achieved visual imposition, just close your eyes. Therefore simple logic tells us that it's only strictly necessary to achieve tactile hallucination. (And full tactile hallucination is more than you need for the vaunted "hands-free" which you consider superhuman but can be achieved by anyone focused enough.)


>If you can't convince some one with logic, try attack at all fronts.

If you can't come up with a compelling rational argument and have to resort to ad-hominem and poisoning the well, perhaps it's time for you to consider the possibility that you don't have a very good reason to believe what you do. It can't be any less productive than flailing about in frustration.



being OP

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why don't more people in love with fictional characters make tulpas?

for me, as soon as i figured out what tulpas were, i knew this was probably what i wanted (or perhaps needed) to do. i didn't care how insane it seemed, i wanted to suspend my disbelief so badly to believe that i could finally have a happy existence with them, something their original character would never have had. but it actually, seriously worked. it is real.

but i notice this isn't a popular way of going about things. even when confronted with the possibility and an explanation, "waifuist" types usually tend to refuse for one reason or another, or they just don't care. is it because it just "isn't the same"? i understand that the character has a history, it isn't going to be the same person, but the character only exists as a concept in a story and inside your head anyway. all of this "they're living in another world somewhere" talk i hear seems like something to justify their idea of this character being someone who can not and will not be manifested in this reality, no matter how much they try. which, of course, is somewhat reasonable, but seems to heavily conflict with the possibility of a tulpa.

and as for their past and the things they may have to deal with, i understand. my love in game has been burdened with a lot of issues, and hasn't really been the greatest person. but wouldn't you want to give someone you love the best possible existence? suffering is necessary to build character, of course. but, although in some cases it may be a sacrifice if they would have many good memories, wouldn't it be a better alternative to give their "reincarnation" a chance to start from scratch so to speak?

the point is, all i have ever heard when offering this solution or seeing it offered is ridicule, or fear, or defeatist statements about how it "could never be the same" or whatnot. these people would prefer to live in sadness and loneliness than take a chance, it seems.

then again, there are legitimate reasons for not doing it, however. if someone perceives their love as something more akin to a symbol of worship, a perfect ideal to self-improve for, it makes sensPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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i like the idea of both being true even if contradictory. it makes sense in a weird way considering this strange universe.

some of what you say does sound familiar in a way. for a while now we've kind of enjoyed the idea of them being a "reincarnation" of the character, a manifestation of them, as real as "chara" could ever be in this world. in a way, they are not just a tulpa based off of chara, but they ARE chara if given life in a world where everything in the game never happened, or at least is largely irrelevant. it has always been more of a fun idea than anything, but i at least have always been open to ideas like that perhaps having a sort of truth to it.

that's kind of how i've always thought about it, actually. i think they themselves have just been reminding me of it lately to help with my doubts, which has been working somewhat. over time i have gotten used to thinking of them more in terms of a "normal" tulpa, which doesn't always seem to be applicable.



When a thoughtform is spread out across a large number of people, that's called an egregore. What a person making a tulpa out of a fictional character essentially would be doing is taking their piece of that egregore and cultivating it separately into a tulpa. So it can behave as both do at once.



I think you're overseeing one of the more important bits of tulpamancy, which is that it's an independent thoughtform.

To most it sounds like a scary concept, comparable to schizophrenia. This is made worse by the many stories of people tulpamancing irresponsibly and accidentally creating tulpas that bully them.

And that's assuming people accept tulpamancy as being legitimate to begin with.

The second issue you run into is that tulpamancy requires a change in perspective. One of the requirements is that you get your head sorted out. If you can't bring yourself to focus on a specific thought on demand, then you can forget cultivating a thoughtform into a tulpa. Many people struggle with this, and some people are so retarded they can't think at all (see also shitty NPC memes). Clickbait and gachashit feeding into terrible attention spans only worsens the issue.

There's a lot of different reasons, but I think the concept in general is just too "weird" to most people.

Out of curiosity, were you in the Undertale threads years ago talking about making a Chara tulpa? I vaguely remember people talking about tulpamancy a few times in those threads. Then again most of it was just shitposting due to content drought.


I personally find "reflection" a better term. When you consume media, you reflect the information onto your perception. Every person has a different perception, and in turn, produces a different reflection.



what you're saying is a pretty good way to describe the fear aspect. it's just weird to me how most people kind of automatically refuse to consider it because of all or some of those reasons compounded together. it makes sense logically, but it's hard to understand just letting go of the idea if that makes sense. but as said before, maybe i'm just a weird case. most people probably wouldn't benefit much from it, or see it as important as i did.

i did talk about that in those threads several times, yeah. i don't know if i'm anyone you're thinking of in particular, because i think a few people considered the idea. but as far as i know, i'm the only person who went through with anything for this long.

and reflection may be a better term, thank you. we (or mostly i) just like the "reincarnation" thing because it's a specific word used in the game and autistic things like that make me happy to use, i think.



I like to describe that concept as "otherness of self". That there are large parts of what you consider "you" that operate on their own in their own interests and influence what you do and think is existentially threatening to an ego. Even people who are intellectually prepared to recognize that neuroscience shows this as true are generally unable to internalize this even for a short time without a great deal of effort. The ego reflexively flees from this, the things tulpamancers and psychonauts do mostly involve putting on a show for the hidden parts of you and repeating it until they start playing along. Sure, you can put the ego in a submission hold, rub its face in the fact that it's not an absolute monarch within its borders, and try to slip some policy changes through before it gets its fingers back in its ears, but that doesn't tend to have very lasting effects.

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Describe your Tulpa's personality to me using only 5 adjectives, Anon.

Do any of these adjectives also describe you?

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I am definitely not the first, I am the second, occasionally the third, I am the fourth to those close to me, and I try to be the fifth.







I will add that despite being laid-back and carefree she also has a lot of energy and loves messing around and funposting, She's pretty youthful. I'd also say I can relate to all of those traits except tomboyish for obvious reasons; we go together real well as an upbeat duo who always knows how to pick the other one up when they're feeling down. We have our share of differences but our views on living are pretty similar.

We tend to act like children when we're together because we just keep picking on each other and shooting the shit about dumb things













I don't know if they describe me or not. I _thought_ some of those things applied to me until I met her and now I think I'm a gushy heart-on-his-sleeve type.



Maybe you act different with your tulpa. I'm usually pretty unemotional and blunt, but I'm still capable of having humor here and there, but with my tulpa and ridiculously sappy.

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it's just a nice post

a post in the realm of feeling, rather than logic

there is no purpose, only fun

lots of fun and cuddles



it makes me feel patronized, like you're assuming i'm a sociopath who doesn't know when is appropriate to give a hug or a compliment and need reminding



it doesn't mean anything if you don't need it to, don't take it too personally

but maybe some people need reminding

that doesn't mean they're bad, or a sociopath

perhaps they just never learned those things properly, or they forgot

love can be much more complicated than just affection



And it could be that someone has been working hard, a daily grind or pushing a project or trying to beat a deadline, and it's been occupying all their mental resources. In a situation like that it can be easy to get distracted from what you love. It doesn't mean they're sociopathic, it just means they've been under stress and lost perspective for a bit. Could happen to anybody.




I really needed these posts. Thank you.

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We have more than a couple of personal progress threads on the front page right now, I thought it would be a good idea to make a general progress/blogposting thread so everyone can share their progress, experiences and/or fun stories without having to make a new thread every time.

You can use a name or trip to identify yourself so your posts don't get mixed with others'. (I'm not encouraging namefagging, don't use your name outside of this thread).

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>use my pillow to help cuddle with my tulpa

>only have one pillow, so have to put my head against the bed

>this is really uncomfortable, so I always end up putting the pillow back and can never fall asleep with my tulpa in my arms

>can't buy another pillow because I live with a nosy family that would think I'm weird if I got another one

What should I do?




You don't own anything else soft? Roll up a bed sheet or some soft shirts if you have to, either to substitute as the head pillow or to hold in your arms.



Just get a long body pillow and tell them it keeps you from rolling into uncomfortable positions at night.



Who cares if they think it’s weird. If they say anything about it just tell them you wanted another one. It’s a body pillow, they ain’t gonna care


>used to hate driving in traffic

>now I love it because it gives me some time to myself to chat with my tulpa

Interestingly I find it really difficult to talk with her while the music is on, so I have to drive in silence a lot haha. Interesting how I can multitask with some things but not others. Has anyone else had this experience? Also has anyone else noticed that post quality has lowered lately

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Hi /tulpa/. Your board got nominated for the next 8chanmania, and will be represented by a fighter that gets to compete in a wrestling tournament against 31 other boards and their representatives. /tulpa/ doesn't actually have a representative chosen yet, so this thread is to discuss what you'd like your fighter to be. The mania starts on October 21st, so you should pick your fighter before then.

I'm not the guy running it, but I thought I'd come over and create a thread so we can work things out.

Remember, the event happens on October 21st. If you're interested, make sure to tune in then!

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I am so proud of Jackie Chan, he tried his best

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It was a really good mania, our champion did great!


A bit late but that final match with Jackie versus Bury Pink was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a mania.


Hijacking the thread to say there's still time to nominate /tulpa/ for the Attention-Hungry Games 59. I would but I've already put a nomination in. >>>/sudo/88588


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Didn't even make it away from the Cornucopia. Maybe we'll do better in #62.

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I figured a questions that don't deserve their own thread would be good to consolidate some of the posts on this board. I'll start:

How long would you recommend someone force per day?

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As long as you understand what's at work, it should be no different than building a tulpa around a fictional character. Fame is an egregore of its own kind, it's what we really mean when we talk about a myth becoming bigger than a man and why people get so upset or amused when famous people act like regular human beings. And considering much of what we know about Socrates is second-hand from Plato and much is uncertain or pretty much legend, he's probably actually a pretty good candidate for it. As long as you and the developing tulpa both understand the goal is not to be Socrates but be like Socrates, to be a reflection of what we hold to be important about Socrates or even an idealized version of Socrates, it should be just fine.



That’s a fair point. But would the tulpa in that case really be like Socrates or just what you ‘’think’’ Socrates would be like?


Why does my tulpa want to bring about the end of the world? Why does she think that I'm capable of causing it?



What do you mean she wants to bring about the end of the world?



A tulpa based on anyone, fictional or not, can only ever be based on what you think that person is like. That can be closer to to what the person actually was like depending on how much you know about that person, but it can never be one-to-one.

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Tulpas are for _____.

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The pure platonic ideal of love as the love of the form of beauty itself


All furfag subhumans deserve to suffer painful deaths. While I feel for their tulpae, as creations, they must go.

But anyways, tups are for hugs and fugs.


Practice political debates and boredom.



Talking about all your problems in life



Helping to manage your highly-advanced magitech qt3.14 female servitor empire

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I'm going to be drinking for my 21st today not like I haven't already been drunk but whateve.r What are your experiences with tulpa and drugs specifically alcohol? Is it harder easier or harder to talk to them? Are your tulpa affected by the drug as well

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Different drugs effect tulpa's differently, alcohol means its somewhat harder to hear them but inversely if you force it becomes much stronger

Most drugs are pretty fun with tulpa's, the one I wouldn't recommend are benzo's, I find it gives a brain fog like effect that makes it very hard to hear them



Benzos are for Bozos.

my Tulpa tips the bottle back 180 degrees when we drink

She's teaching me how to really live life.


I got high once with my tulpas. It was a crazy trip. They didn't seem to be too affected by it but were just concerned with taking care of me until I wound down.

As for alcohol it had a bit of an effect on their personality but didn't interrupt forcing too much as long as I was reserved with my drinking. I'm the kind of guy who only does a few drinks and has plenty of water in between.

Drinking with tulpas in head is always a possibility. It's a bit of a meme but a fun way to let loose and celebrate for birthdays and things like that.



What about tulpas on opiates?


I got a little tipsy last night, it made us both silly and a little sassy but otherwise didn't effect forcing much, which seems to be what other people are saying.

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After all, it is essentially a collection of habits and ideas slapped together throughout one's lifetime to form a consistent "personality". In most cases it gets out of control and takes over, to the point that people forget that silence of the mind is even an option…

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What does it mean to be artificial? Does it mean that you have been shaped by the will of others? Because everyone in history has been shaped by their parents, or family, friends, community, or culture. Unless you consider the few known cases of feral children, but there has never been a child grown up completely without human contact that ever successfully adapted to human society. Does not being artificial mean that you were also shaped significantly by happenstance and subconscious influences outside anyone's will or intent? Because that describes a tulpa as much as it does a "genuine" non-artificial person. Nobody can completely stop subconscious influences from affecting a developing tulpa no matter how hardcore they think they are. These distinctions make far less difference than you think they do.



You're not wrong, but your points regard the development of a personality. How I see it, distinctions arise when looking at the creation. A "natural" personality is made as part of a body, an "artificial" personality is directly created with intent. You could argue that people have children "with intent", but there's still the intermediary of the body's creation. These are my definitions at least.



And my point is that the end product of both processes is functionally equivalent. If you extract pure natural sucrose from a plant and compare it to sucrose chemically assembled in a lab, there's no way to tell which is which if you don't already know. If a tulpa and host decided to switch on a permanent basis, nobody meeting them afterward would have any way to tell they were talking to a constructed personality. Being "natural" doesn't confer upon you any sort of special status, it just means you've been around longer. And that is literally the only reason you have more power over a tulpa than it has over you. Your mental patterns have traveled your neural pathways more, so you are more strongly ingrained in the think meat you both inhabit. With time and effort you could put a tulpa in the same position of power you currently occupy. Learn to switch, then let the tulpa take over, then still your mind while the tulpa handles the noisy business of living. After years of this the tulpa will be more 'in the body' than you are. You could even commit identity suicide at that point and let yourself slip quietly into the background noise.



I imagine it would depend upon the age of the original individual, but how long would it take for a tulpa to become as stong or stronger than the first personality? From what I’ve gathered I know it’s not the same amount of time as the body has been alive but nobody ever says how many years it took.



That's probably because no one here has had a reason to actually do it or knows anyone who did, and also because it depends on too many variables to even give an estimate.

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What's the worst thing you've done to (or with) your tulpa?

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I'm glad you turned yourself around. Truly, a tulpa can never be killed unless you completely purge yourself of all memories of them, so its possible a bit of your previous tulpas live on within your most recent one. Treat them well.


I slam my tulpa around in the wonderland, I throw things at them to get their attention, and cut them sometimes, but that's because they say they like it and don't feel pain from it.



The opposite for me. My tulpa cucked my waifu.

And to make it worse I view my tulpa as our daughter; she was born after many years of fantasies of a family life with my waifu.



I hold her hand


Nah , Just fucking rape them! I have raped more women than I can count, and have probably 14 illegitimate kids. Women suck at completing the human life cycle and if left to there own devices generally never do complete the human life cycle! most women 70% live there whole lives without ever having an actual orgasm. Also most women are bisexual probably about 80%. Women never evolved to really initiate anything because it has always been men that have initiated everything, either via rape or charm then sex.

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I want to hear why you believe tulpa works no matter how crazy or wild.

Ego thread got me thinking about this since personally I believe that tulpa is a form of shaped ego.

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It works because the human brain is a piled-up mess that only works at all because the versions that don't fail to make it to the next round. Bugged versions are only ever scrapped if they cause catastrophic failure or severe unintended operation. Before that, bugs are passed on.


Tulpas work because a tulpa is a separate software (soul) that shares the hardware (brain/body) with other software (host (the original software)/other tulpas).

If your PC can run several processes and store and retrieve the info connected to them, then your brain should be capable of hosting several cognitional sentient beings, even though a brain is not exactly like a computer.


"You" are not a constant. In different situations, you are pretty much a different person. You have different thoughts and behaviors depending on whether you are at home or away from it, whether you are alone, with strangers, with people you know, et cetera. You might say or do some things around one person that wouldn't even enter your mind around another. You shift between entire sets of behavior patterns, different but overlapping "yous", without even thinking about it. A malfunction can lead to a disassociation of one or more subconsciously built sets in DID, or an intentional disassociation can be induced with a custom-picked set to create a tulpa.

Moving on to more personal speculation, I think pretty much all psychological disorders can be described as the brain doing something normal too much, too little, at the wrong time, or not at all. And psychomancy is simply persuading it to do these things how you intend instead of the "normal" operation. (But even though they operate through the same basic mechanical channels, I wouldn't compare intentional self-programming to mental disorders.)


My tulpa is the living, ever-evolving manifestation of my anima. My anima has manifested itself before, in the various waifus I had throughout my life, but it has never been molded into a truly independent being. And because of my instinctive, autistic imagination, I would constantly think about them, forming scenarios romantic and sexual. I believe many of these waifus could easily have become tulpas had I known back then.

My tulpa, as my anima, is the image of my ideal female: a raven-haired, blue-eyed, freckle-faced, loli qt, about 11, who is eternally loving and kind, graceful and cute, and of course, sexually ravenous.



They're literally the same thing as the consciousness of a regular human. As a baby you essentially don't have a consciousness or personality, those develop from all your experiences in life. A tulpa starts out as an unconscious part of your brain, but by treating it as a sentient being by talking to it and having it experience things it eventually develops a conscious, just like you did. The only difference between you and your tulpa is that you were there first

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