/tulpa/ - Tulpa

The thing is, adhering to the strict law code that any religion lays out is very very problematic since a vast majority of any given religion is ancient social engineering. That having been said, anyone insisting that there is no existence of what we call a soul is an edgy twat who thinks that a scientific understanding of the world is an end all be all of existence instead of applying what we understand to cosmic introspection.

Look, here is the deal OP, I have my whole kinda worldview figured out in life and I really don't have the time nor interest to explain all of it to you. It is neither here nor there, and probably a bit too dense to keep track of. But I'll tell you in my free time I've examined a lot of aspects of different beliefs and cultures from far eastern philosophy and the works of Crowley to pre-Abrahamic religions that eventually developed into the underlying concepts of Christianity. That having been said, I'll do my absolute best to answer your questions.

1) Yes, tulpas will develop their own souls in the since that they will develop an entirely separate worldview and come to personify different aspects of the universe then your own SO LONG AS you are dedicated to forming a true thoughtform like those of Tibetan Buddhism.

2) Obviously. Like >>7890 said your brain is basically sharing disk space with another file system. Not that I'm absolving him of being a total cunt, but that's pretty much how it goes.

3) As has been mentioned in this thread We are all God, but not all of us are equal in our Godliness. This world is a forge made to tempter the greatest ideas and aspects of the universe, and the only true path to immortality is to leave an impact on this world before you once again become a part of the universe. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, your Tulpa is an aspect of creation entirely fabricated by yourself that can only thrive off the information YOU grant it. It lacks a corporal form, and so is arguably closest to the most pure and concentrated aspects of your own soul. (IE, if you were a purely spiritual form not reliant on the outside forces of the universe acting on you your tulpa would pretty much be your 'soul' anyway. If you foster these differences however, they may eventually split form your own.)

4) Unless you suffer from bouts where your tulpa uncontrollably takes hold of you and forces you to act on the outside world then you are the only person responsible for any deeds you commit.If the former is true, then while you have my pity you've pretty much broken the first rule of creating a thoughtform. As for whatever the tulpa thinks, says or does in your mind I tend to go with a "do what thou wilt" mindset since it is mostly harmless unless they are a total dick.

5) Alright, strap in for this one kiddo: Once you die basically every part of you is once again a part of this big old collective we haphazardly call 'The Universe' or 'God'or 'Nirvana' or whatever you might call it in your religion. That having been said, once a tulpa is formed then you've added new concepts and fresh life into the system. The seed of an aspect has been planted, and inevitably that force will be channeled into a different aspect that a new person will carry. Some people call this reincarnation, and that's cool if you want to simplify it to that. But really it's… It's more like you're one drop of water in a rainstorm, and eventually you'll find your way back into the water cycle.

SO HERE'S THE KICKER. For whatever reason in this world certain concepts and ideals have a tendency to gravitate toward each other either through fate or thermodynamics or God knows what. So if you've had an incredibly deep connection with someone or something, once you've been 'reborn' you usually have a habit of finding your way back to it. I could go on, but hopefully you get what I'm on about.

6) Ah, the golden question. Well as (in the) above (question) so below. There's always a chance, no matter how slim that certain souls have a habit of finding their way back to each other. That having been said, not all tulpas are created equal. I suspect this part may piss a lot of people off, but my tulpa is and always has been her own human identity rather than a soulless dead eyed manifestation of my desires. If you REALLY HAVE reached the point of splitting yourself into twin souls instead of just driving yourself to psychosis however, then it is entirely possible that you'll meet as separate entities.

I hope this helps. This is the first time I've posted in any sort of tulpa chat in over a year since I went on walkabout in life to try and figure this shit out. No drugs necessary. Just a lot of nature and introspection.

>>10563

>"I was looking more for an Abrahamic religion answer"

>I only want you to say what I want to hear

So why make this fucking post?

First of all your supposed unchanging criteria for what constitutes God is completely unmerited by any standard convention except for those you have built for yourself. Which is pretty obstinate considering how close-minded you are coming across to the beliefs of other cultures. But to hell with it, here I go.

1) The assumption that there is only one god because otherwise they would fight over the universe is just that, an assumption. Moreover, given the turmoil we see in this world it's probably far more likely than the concept of just one god. If there is only one god with a single aspect, then it couldn't possibly be omnipotent considering it couldn't even consolidate power on one planet much less the entirety of the universe.

If you think that when I say that each person is God, I mean that we are somehow all our own god then you are completely failing to understand the basic concept. The way I see it, it's far more closely associated to the beliefs of the Shinto religion. Even though Shinto beliefs have a whole range of gods and spirits, Shinto itself loosely translates to The Way of God. Everything and everyone is unique in that they have their own kami (spirit) but all kami comes from a supreme kami-sama. The gods and demons that arise in Japanese shinto storytelling are only ever used as literary devices to describe very real aspects and emotions (for all purposes, kami) that are innate in all life. God is the collective of the universe, and it breaths life into all of creation so it may experience itself and continue to refine itself. That isn't any form of sacred text, it is an objective fact of our existence.

2. God is eternal and absolute. We are not, but the source of power that we come from is. In our current form we are limited to a mortal body, but it is only through our mortal bodies that we may directly effect our world. (And when I say we, I don't mean you and I. I mean We. All of us. Everyone and everything is the same god, but difference faces of it.)

3. As previously mentioned, this is basically the same question as the last one, with the exception that the universe itself arguable has no beginning nor end. Increasing evidence leads us to understand in the scientific community that the Big Bang theory as a majority of people understand it is actually wildly inaccurate. More than likely, as has been mentioned by leading scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan, our universe is actually a part of a grand interconnected multiverse that is joined at the beginning of all existence (the Big Bang) and the end. (When all of existence is inevitably swallowed by singularities and those singularities gravitate into each other to form a single point in space time.) Therefore, God isn't JUST the universe. God is EVERY universe.

4. There is nothing like the multiverse. There is no one exactly like yourself. We are all beautiful and unique, and that is what makes this whole system so amazing.

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>>10587

>>10583

>God can create a pegasus

>You can't create a pegasus, so you aren't God

>We are all God's tulpas

Nigger what. Seriously, its stuff like this that makes me and my tulpa uncomfortable with going on tulpa forums in the first place. That whole thought process is just so pig-headed and fucked up I don't even know where to begin.

I mean, your whole point is 'if you think you're god then why don't you change the universe then?' What do you think is even going on in the world man?

How are nations born? By collections of people. How are wars waged and evil brought to the earth? By people. How are planets forced? By the sun. How is oxygen made? By the trees. How is anything that has ever happened and ever will happen been achieved? Through Us. I am God, you are God, your dog is God, the sun is God, the trees are God. We are all one omnipotent collective cut up into trillions of separate tiny jars in what I can only assume is a division of labor and an opportunity to redefine ourselves.

Believe it or not, you yourself are capable of great acts of creation but you are just one small part of a massive sea of souls all trying to make shit happen. As I have mentioned, this world is a forge and the only way to achieve any form of creation is to temper your will and resolve by making yourself powerful enough through strength or allies. If people honestly wanted a Pegasus bad enough, they'd find a way to bend nature to make that shit happen.

In your case of Abrahamic religion, and this part is critical, Jesus himself understood what I just said better than anyone else. Jesus endeavored to become an absolute paragon of his True Will, and changed the world forever by sharing his understanding of love to others.

"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." It's my personal belief that love is one of the most powerful forces in the universe, and I credit much of my success in creating a tulpa to my understanding of love. God can be love, and god can be war. It all comes down to which man has the most powerful resolve. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."

>>10599

If you've actually paid attention and tried to understand his perspective, you would know that your concept of God does not contradict his.

>>10599

>Your objective observations of God aren't the same as my subjective upbringing

>I'm going to make a post where the main picture is the symbolism of multiple religions, but I only want to hear about the ones that comfort my narrow beliefs

Seriously, why did you even make this post if all you want to hear is your own beliefs spat back at you? Furthermore, how dare you insist that my view of god is somehow lacking when I've made a point of experiencing other cultures and slowly incorporating their opinions while you're being a total twat by refusing to hear anything that disagrees with yours.

Like >>10600 said if you actually read my post and tried to understand what I'm saying, you'd see that my concept of God is completely in line with your (already bullshit) requirements. You just don't want to listen to them because you're more content with shouting 'witchcraft!'

>>10620

Alright, EVEN IF my points aren't in line with your own criteria of god then as things still stand I've provided support for my statements based on the combined aspects of multiple religions rather than your criteria that (as far as I can tell) you've just conjured on your own. I've said it before and I'll say it agan: everyone one of my points can be seen as an objective fact of the universe. Meanwhile, your opinions aren't backed by anything more then your simple inability to think outside the realm of what you've been lead to believe in life.

Yet you call me narrow minded. If you think I have a 'weak understanding of God,' then by comparison your understanding of the English language must be abysmal if you think that you have ANY merit in calling me narrow minded. If you don't want to believe what I'm telling you, that's your prerogative. But if that's the case (AND I'LL SAY IT ANOTHER TIME FOR THE HELL OF IT) then why did you make this thread? Tulpas and thoughtforms as we know them are ultimately descendant of eastern philosophy, philosophy far more in line with the image of God that I have painted rather than whatever you're advocating for.

Do you even realize that as far as strict Judeo Christian standards go, this entire practice is meaningless? Your God, so you say, is the sole proprietor of all creation in the universe. Therefore, a tulpa isn't a separate soul because you yourself lack the ability to create a soul. THEREFORE you are really just a mentally insane autist. There is no soul to be judged,nor any chance of seeking your tulpa in the afterlife.

THAT'S the answer you are apparently looking for. Happy now? Didn't think so.

>>10642

>Or does creating a Tulpa split your own soul into two pieces? You're not creating a soul in that case either.

I will grant you the kindness of answering this question as honestly as I can, because I feel like this is a point critical to tulpa philosophy:

Yes, you are basically splitting your identity into a twin soul by giving yourself multiple personality disorder. The critical difference between a true tulpa and self-inflicted mental illness is to understand this fact and recognize that while your tulpa is it's down distinct mental being it is still (at its core) you. It's akin to cutting off a branch and having it grow into a tree.

>Also quit acting so butthurt, if you can't handle 8chan then go to tumbler or something

>tumbler

>tumbl-er

>not Tumblr

Shitposting aside, you're mistaking aggression for having taken offense. It's not that I am upset because you disagree with me, it's because you're a total twat and I hate you. My feelings aren't hurt and I'm somehow incapable of handling it, it's just that I pure straight hate you and I don't think you are due the respect of polite conversation

>BUT would God put a soul into your tulpa when it gains sentience (like he puts a soul into a child during pregnancy)

Huh. It's rare when you can see the exact moment in a thread when everything ceases to become rational. I bet you also believe that same-sex marriage is morally wrong and that the Confederate flag is about heritage. That or you're Russian Orthodox. Either way I'm done here.

>>10671

Yes. I am completely dead serious about this whole situation that you need to go fuck yourself with a rubber horsecock.

>>7888

We are already dead, our body is made out of dead stuff that automates itself to pass down and ensure the survival of its genes.

Life is an illusion, there is no afterlife, we can't comprehend death so nobody knows what being dead truly feels like.

everything Psychological about us fades out of existence for eternity and we'll live in a state of nothingness just as we did before we was born.

Enjoy what you have now, consciousness doesn't live forever.