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 No.1140345

I see STD get a bad rap here on /tv/. Why is that? I think it's very enjoyable. Can you tell me what's wrong with it? Because I don't see anything wrong.

 No.1140381

This is a shitty troll thread, but to save others time I'm going to list some of it out.

-The main character is designed intentionally to have every single trait SJW main characters have to be as unlikable as possible. She's aggressive and hateful and makes idiotic decisions but she's portrayed as the best ever and brilliant for doing it. She's annoying, she has a male name just because progressives made it, she's black and has really ugly haircuts and is physically unattractive. She fucks up the lore by asserting she's the secret adopted son of Spock's dad who simply by virtue of being a black female was somehow a perfect Vulcan.

-The rest of the cast is designed to be completely unappealing to the traditional cast of Star Trek series. They finally give us one busty redhead and they give her shitty hair a minor character and pick an actress with a wart on her fucking face.

-The Klingons appearance and culture was dramatically changed in a way that no one could possibly like. They're basically turned into gorilla muslims. Anyone who sees them identifies their speech and behavior as that of islamic fundamentalists but to make sure they alienated absolutely everyone, the braindead mouthbreathers making the show assert they represent TRUMP SUPPORTERS. When was the last time you saw someone in a maga hat blow up a building you fucking sociopath?

-Rather than feeling like a Star Trek setting, the series feels like Mass Effect. The main difference described by fans comparing this to previous series, is the previous series take place in a comfortable world you'd like to visit. It would be nice to live on the Enterprise or Deep Space 9 or even on Voyager. There is nothing appealing about the world this series creates.


 No.1140398

>>1140381

Wow… I've heard of cancer eclipsing franchises before, but that's just merciless.


 No.1140409

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>>1140381

>They finally give us one busty redhead and they give her shitty hair a minor character and pick an actress with a wart on her fucking face.

Wartface McFatgingertits is cute though. And I'm astonished they didn't kill her off in the last episode for cheap drama.


 No.1140424

Because its a shitty fucking show by itself, and its worse by being compared to other Star Trek shows

90% of this show is terrible characters delivering unmemorable, bland exposition in 'totally epic lighting and sets' to distract you from the fact that nothing is happening.

The main character is a dumb fucking negress that is both dangerous, incompetent and stupid but has the entire cast say that she is totally smart and incredible for no fucking reason. She has not done one thing to warrant them saying this and more than enough for her to be put in prison for life.

The characters in this are extremely fucking bland, underwritten as hell and are uninteresting to the point where fucking Digimon is far superior.

Can you name one character in this that you can say "I like X character, because of whatever?" Its impossible.

The only singular episode I can remember as a singular episode is the groundhog day explosion one. One sequence that was interesting was in the mirror universe where they had to pretend to be evil and shank/cheat motherfuckers, but that was 3 scenes and we were done. The rest all blurs together into this one pile of smudge where nothing cool happens.

Its a really shitty, shitty show.


 No.1140433

>>1140381

You missed;

-Most interesting character (and only major straight white male character on the show) is revealed to be a doppelganger from the mirror universe, (hurting what made him an interesting character in the first place) is somehow portrayed as being the eviler choice compared to a sadistic bitch queen who casually murders her own people and eats intelligent races. He's then killed off in the third act of the plot, only to be replaced by the aforementioned doppelganger of the Asian woman from the pilot episode who goes on to fill almost the exact same role and actions, but checks more diversity boxes and lets Michael's character have more drama and stilted character progression.


 No.1140447

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>>1140381

>>1140433

the show shits all over the lore as well

STD is supposed to take place before Kirk's time, but holographic communication is being used despite the technology not existing in TOS or ENT

holographic communication didn't even show up until season 5 of DS9, otherwise holograms only appeared in holodecks or as EMH programs


 No.1140467

>>1140433

Is the entire fucking season about the mirror universe?

I knew this shitheap was a mockery of Star Trek, but were they really such shit writers that they couldn't come up with enough standalone episodic plots for a single season?


 No.1140469

The show actually some interesting ideas. The problem is everything centers on Michael Burnham, who is a shitty character with no personality.


 No.1140472

>>1140447

>but holographic communication is being used despite the technology not existing in TOS or ENT

That didn't really bother me that much compared to the fucking spore drive or needless klingon changes. It's like how TOS communicators seem hardly any more advanced than modern satphones. Sometimes the present technology makes things in older scifi look downright primitive. And you can either just retcon X out and replace it with Y or try to make awkward excuses for why they were still using X two hundred years in the future.


 No.1140475

>>1140472

It's like how TOS communicators seem hardly any more advanced than modern satphones.

That's actually not so weird if you think about it. Our military don't use smartphones, they use walkie talkies. It makes sense to select for technology that is hard wearing and reliable in these fields. NASA computers still run very basic operating systems, as opposed to something modern that is more inclined to crash.


 No.1140480

File: f3f52fc1076f91c⋯.png (3 MB, 960x1440, 2:3, ClipboardImage.png)

Where were you when Seth Macfarlane saved sci-fi television?


 No.1140483

>>1140467

it was a three episode arc in the last third of the season. It accomplished almost nothing aside from ruining Captain SpaceAhab, completely wasting the klingon sleeper agent plot, and allowing a timeskip so the show could suddenly jump to the Klingon days away from invading Earth and the Federation being desperate enough to sanction destroying the Klingon home world so Mikey could stop them and show how morally superior she is to the rest of Starfleet.

It also seemed like it *was* going to give the writers an excuse for why none of the later ships have a spore drive, but then they said, "nah, we need it to quickly teleport them to center of a planet, so instead we'll make it that Starfleet banned this spectacularly useful technology because genetic engineering is really, really bad and they just never figured out an artificial navigation system for it."


 No.1140488

>>1140483

Reading every post in this thread makes me welcome the day I die just a little bit more and more.

I knew ST was always flowing along with the progressive types, but this is just too much fucking cringe.


 No.1140534

The easiest fixes for this show would have been; delete Michael Burnham entirely, set the show several decades after the dominion war, skip the mirror universe stuff until season two and ditch the whole 'Lorca is actually from the mirror universe' twist.

Just show about a group of klingon fundamentalists who gain power and decide to break ties with the federation sparking a new war, leaving an experimental war ship and it's damaged, unhinged captain and quirky crew as the only thing stopping the federation's eventual defeat while constantly walking the line between keeping true the Fed's ideals and falling into savagery.


 No.1140535

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>>1140488

>>1140488

>I knew ST was always flowing along with the progressive types

I'm convinced that most progressives/SJWs that praise Star Trek haven't actually watched anything other than Voyager or STD.

SJWs constantly defend the violent nature of Islam, but on more than one occasion, we've seen Worf reprimanded for allowing the violent nature of Klingon culture to interfere with his duties to Starfleet. If Star Trek were written by SJWs, Worf would be praised/encouraged by his superiors for "culturally enriching" Starfleet.

We've even seen SJW types getting blown the fuck out like when Admiral Satie tried to whiteBorg-guilt Picard into submission.


 No.1140541

>>1140535

The Star Trek universe is essentially a universe where the white man's values and morality are king, and all enlightened people have put aside their savagery to join him.

This is deeply problematic, to say the least.


 No.1140548

>>1140535

just wait till they try to fit in an openly Muslim crew member despite the setting being hardcore anti-religion before.


 No.1140588

>>1140548

I could barely even stomach the Bajoran's blind mindless devotion to a bunch of fucking wormhole aliens on DS9.


 No.1140589

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>>1140535

What made last gen of shows so good was that they basically undid everything Roddenberry intended with with the new alien races. Each added something to more appeal to a male perspective and that's what made it work.

The Klingongs, the Ferengi and the Cardassians were all created as boring adversary races. Each was Roddenberry's attempt to criticize an ideology. Communism, statism, and capitalism respectively. Subsequent writers realized that as one dimensional villain races they were boring and so dramatically humanizaed them. The Klingons went from commies to a proud warrior race steeped in codes of honor more akin to vikings and samurai. The Ferengi became empathetic but greedy comic relief fighting against their better natures. Berman specifically stated he felt they were the most human of all the species and just behaved like modern humanity. They critique the actions of the other races in numerous episodes, and in particular on DS9 demonstrate why the Federation's socialism would never work. They say they've evolved beyond money right up until they need something from a race that hasn't, then they have to go right back to trading. The Cardassians start out as a bland Nazi race, but we see what they become when their "state" is destroyed and they become the enslaved and have to free their own planet. The Cardies on DS9 start out truly despicable but end the series downright sympathetic.

A similar thing happened on Voyager. It started out as a very light second-wave feminist thing with female captain, but never in an aggressive or hateful way, but when the ratings slumped because they had three main female characters and not a one the audience wanted to fuck, they brought in the ultimate sci-fi waifu, Seven of Nine. A character who unquestionably appeals to the most high-testosterone of audience members. Think about it, Data was previously the audience's sympathetic autistic character desperate to learn about human emotions and be more like everyone else. That's why he was such an extremely popular character. Seven of Nine was basically exactly the same, logical and unemotional but wanting to learn about being human, except this one you want to fuck. This one's powerful and busty and curvy in all the right places. Strong but innocent, virginal yet interested, and she single-handedly saved the show from cancellation. It didn't hurt that she could actually act either. That's why Mulgrew hated her so much, Seven eclipsed the original core cast and before long the whole show was just about her and the Doctor, the show's two strongest characters (and actors.)


 No.1140594

All Star Trek TV series are shit.


 No.1140597

>>1140594

Ikr. Abrams movies are the only good ones.


 No.1140621

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Startrek Transmissable Diseases are a real health hazard and should be treated carefully.


 No.1140639

>>1140621

>even in the Swoleverse, Wesley is still a pathetic soyboy


 No.1140666

>>1140589

Sadly Voyager could have been a great show full of characters people liked if they weren't specifically told to act wooden and robotic.

But as bad as Voyager was, it was still Trek. STD is Trek in name only.


 No.1140668

>>1140639

Some things are simply a constant throughout the multiverse Anon.


 No.1140703

>>1140621

Hey Faggots,

My name is Wesley, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch"


 No.1140704

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>>1140703

forgot pic ffs


 No.1140706

>>1140703

If by some freak accident I ever made a star trek series, I want to have an older version of Wesley appear… But as the maxium fuck you, hire the actor who played adult Wesley in the tng episode where Riker gets Q powers instead of Weaton


 No.1140709

Holy shit, I completely ignored STD and now I realize they retconned warp technology with… mushrooms. The ships use myceti to travel around, the network of living things, which is evidently a ripoff of Dune's spice with a dash of Star Wars' force. Truly a shameful end for my beloved series, rest in piss Treccy.


 No.1140721

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Remember this fella, the danger of jewish propaganda is not just to accept their rule. But to forget how good things are without them around.


 No.1140725

>>1140345

STD isn't bad. It's meh, which is arguably worse. I work as an electronics technician, which means that a large portion of my coworkers are your stereotypical, soyboy, normalfag nerds. They talk about nerd shit all the time.

>Star Wars was pretty good.

>Thor Ragnarok was amazing.

>Dude I'm so excited for Black Panther.

>Fuck, I just heard the new Game of Thrones season isn't coming out til next year!

And on and on and on.

But they never talk about STD. Nobody ever talks about STD. My dad has been a trekkie ever since TOS came out in the 60s, you know what he had to say about STD? "It's pretty decent." That's it. He couldn't list off any good traits or memorable moments; his only commendation is that it's at least watchable. It's meh. Nobody cares about it. It'll probably die faster than Enterprise.


 No.1140753

>>1140709

no, they still have normal warp drives, the spore drive is just some magic mcguffin bullshit they added to make the ship seem more special and drive the plot.

And Dune's ftl travel was just generic hyperdrive type shit with mutant humans using drug enhanced psychic powers to steer because they were scared of AI in the setting. Granted, "There's too much risk of robots turning on us, so let's use human fucking beings instead" is one of the stupidest concepts in science fiction.


 No.1140760

>>1140725

This, honestly. It's not THAT bad, but it's lame, and boring, which might be worse. At least truly awful shows can be interesting or funny in their awfulness. Everyone loves The Room. No one loves a forgettable 6/10.


 No.1140788

>>1140753

>it doesn't replace warp drive, it's just flavour of the season JJ Abrahms bullshit

Of course, just like teleporting from Earth to Qonos destroyed any Trek remake credibility. It does replace them functionally by any stretches of the imagine: it's really a plot hole that it doesn't.


 No.1140840

>>1140753

>"There's too much risk of robots turning on us, so let's use human fucking beings instead" is one of the stupidest concepts in science fiction.

Except in that setting it happened. It's in their backstory. How keen would you be to build robots after Skynet had enslaved humanity? It's not all technology, just thinking machines. They still have ships, and air conditioning and guns and such, just no computers or AIs.


 No.1140855

>>1140840

The aversion to thinking machines was part of the dogma of their society. It wasn't necessarily supposed to be based on reason. The founders of their society fought against thinking machines, so the very idea is ingrained in the people as something evil.


 No.1140870

To shit on this show a little further, it strikes me that the pacing was all wrong. We burn through what probably should have been at least three seasons worth of over-arching plot in the space of one.

We're introduced to a Captain who instantly dies in the first episode. Why should we care?

Burnham goes from that disgraced mutineer who everyone is uneasy about, to valued member of the crew, in the space of about two episodes.

Characters who probably should have been developed as major antagonists are dispatched one after another.


 No.1140884

>>1140381

>The Klingons appearance and culture was dramatically changed in a way that no one could possibly like. They're basically turned into gorilla muslims. Anyone who sees them identifies their speech and behavior as that of islamic fundamentalists but to make sure they alienated absolutely everyone, the braindead mouthbreathers making the show assert they represent TRUMP SUPPORTERS. When was the last time you saw someone in a maga hat blow up a building you fucking sociopath?

Its not just the Klingons. The Terran Empire is supposed to be a MAGA analogy too. Imagine being so fucking butthurt with a real-life person that you write different villains based on aspects of that same individual?


 No.1140911

>>1140870

>To shit on this show a little further, it strikes me that the pacing was all wrong. We burn through what probably should have been at least three seasons worth of over-arching plot in the space of one.

Modern attention span of people as thought by Hollyweird plus them themselves not really being able to create anything like REAL science fiction so its just a bunch of ideas slammed together thats over before it begins.


 No.1140913

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>>1140409

The actress who plays Tilly got way too fat throughout the season.

>>1140381

>The Klingons appearance and culture was dramatically changed in a way that no one could possibly like. They're basically turned into gorilla muslims. Anyone who sees them identifies their speech and behavior as that of islamic fundamentalists but to make sure they alienated absolutely everyone, the braindead mouthbreathers making the show assert they represent TRUMP SUPPORTERS. When was the last time you saw someone in a maga hat blow up a building you fucking sociopath?

Funny enough, when you look closer into the nuKlingons, they act more like ISIS than Trump supporters.


 No.1140919

>>1140913

That is because the shit-heap writers hate Trump more than ISIS.


 No.1140924

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>>1140870

>To shit on this show a little further, it strikes me that the pacing was all wrong. We burn through what probably should have been at least three seasons worth of over-arching plot in the space of one.

That's because they don't care about the story, they just wanted to write a fanfiction about their self-insert character (and the only main character of a Star Trek series) who is awesome, stronger and smarter than any Vulcan pureblood (and she's also Spock's adoptive sister).

The people who made STD don't carte about Trek, science, science-fiction, complex stories and compelling characters, otherwise the Mirror Universe shitshow wouldn't have happened. MU-Georgiou was "worse than Hitler" but the writers decided to kill MU-Lorca because he wanted to "make the Empire glorious again". Then you have Burnham who decides to bring MU-Georgiou into her universe (the main one) only to let her free a couple of episodes later because "reasons". MU-Georgiou wasn't her friend, she wanted to kill her, she even forced her to eat MU-Saru.

The ending is the worst thing I've ever seen on tv. Burnham gets her charges dropped and her rank back. The entire sequence takes place in the Federation's building in Paris (weirdly enough none of the women wear hijabs). The leader of the nuKlingons is the female they've held in the Discovery's brig for half a season.

Even after watching the entire season, I still wonder what was the point of all of this.


 No.1140925

>>1140840

It's the 'use humans instead' part. That's a bit like trying to avoid a burning house by running towards an active fucking volcano instead. Plus it uses that old sci-fi trope where computers have to be either 1970's calculator level primitive or full-on self aware super intelligent learning AIs able to turn against it's programmers with no middle ground between them. Which is a little fucking insane. A robot uprising doesn't mean you need to become luddites, it just means that next time don't make robots smart enough to be able rebel.


 No.1140928

>>1140884

I did like how they gave each klingon house their own customs and outfits. TNG/DS9 had a tendency to turn them into nigh-identical clones.


 No.1140936

>>1140928

That's because you would only see the warrior class in TNG and DS9 while STD showed the cosplayer class.


 No.1140946

>>1140925

It's like this: computers are Hitler. Get it now?


 No.1140958

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>>1140345

>I think it's very enjoyable.


 No.1140964

At least we won't have to see that fucking stupid fidget spinner shit ever again.


 No.1140978

Has anyone else noticed shows randomly going full retard and no one notices? Am I insane?

>The Walking dead

People didn't notice when Frank fucking Darabont got replaced by a TV soap opera director.

>Stranger Things

Halfway through season one all the characters went retarded.

>The Expanse

Second season had all the character progression wiped out, it was like the writers were given the pilot script and nothing else.

>>1140345

If you don't see anything wrong then you haven't seen the older series, even Enterprise shits all over STD.

I had an argument with my friend over this, why use the Star Trek name if it's not Star Trek?


 No.1141868

>>1140855

>skynet exterminates humanity

>human barely survive and ban AI development forever

>millennia later, an asshole accuses society of being dogmatic about something harmless

Are you balthar gaius?


 No.1141875

>>1141868

A pocket calculator is basically a swastika to the people of the Dune universe.


 No.1141879

>>1140928

>why are all these military wearing the same uniform

Found the anime watcher


 No.1141894

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>>1140725

This anon, reporting in again. One of my coworkers was telling me about some nerd shit today, and I asked him if he was aware that there was a new star trek series that had been running for about a year. He said no, he hadn't heard anything about it. After a pause, he remarked that maybe there was a reason for that.

This is the state of STD. The nintendo switch-playing, amiibo-buying, marvel-watching, comic book-reading nerds that it should be able to count on aren't even aware of its existence. That's how worthless STD is.




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