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Nice nips, cupcake.

Was it? Be honest. Cause the last 4 have been absolute fucking garbage but to listen to Sunny fans they've been the best ever. I'm about to give up on the show completely.

>>250180

I've been an Always Sunny since day one, I've seen every episode multiple times, have discussed and dissected every episode in a near scholastic manner with my friends and have come to this conclusion: this season is garbage.

Frank has a malignant tumor. Hopefully next season is the last.

>>250180

I'm a diehard fan so I loved them all, but the quality has dropped for sure. This episode was genuinely better than all of the other ones.

>>250202

all of the other ones from this season of course

I always thought the name "sweet D" sounded like a bad prostitute name. I was watching some doc about truckers and human trafficking and this abducted this girl and gave her the name "Heaven Lee".

I love how low her self-esteem is and how shes the butt joke, i've longed for this kind of female character in a modern sitcom.

>>250194

This. The only way the show can go forward is with Frank dying and the fallout on the gang.

>>250176

Agreed, it's not enough to restore my desire for the series to continue but it has restored my faith that the rest of the series/the next series can be good

It was pretty good.

I really liked the suburbs one though. I can't decide if I liked this one more or the surburbs one.

>>250390

The suburbs episode is way too dark. Also, they either need to make Dennis go crazy for real or tone down the crazy. Same with Mac being gay. A tease can only go on for so long before it gets old.

>>250426

>way too dark

What do you mean? Like, you couldn't see anything?

If you mean by tone, I've never heard of someone complaining something is too dark for Always Sunny. There have been darker episodes in Always Sunny even in my opinion.

>>250428

Dark as in tone. Dennis losing his mind in a much more psychotic way than usual, Mac feeding the dog to Dennis, even as a joke. It is way too over the top for them keep playing this joke. Like I said, either make Mac gay for a season or tone it down, same with Dennis. The tease gets old after a while.

>>250431

The tease part I understand. It's a valid criticism. But it's a sitcom so it doesn't bother me that much I guess. That isn't to say they shouldn't do something with eventually, but yeah.

But too dark? I don't know. The gang has said and done darker stuff in my opinion. Like the D.E.N.N.I.S. system, or when they get a boat and Dennis goes on about "the implications". Or CharDeeMacDennis, a game where part of the purpose is to just crush each other emotionally. All the shit with the waitress. The decay of Rickety Cricket. When they go to the jersey shore and Charlie has a great night just to find out the waitress was drugged up, that one in particular gets me. Etc.

I didn't think Suburbs was that dark honestly.

>>250432

The DENNIS system is just game, but with a Dennis twist.

The implication is just logical.

CharDeeMacDennis is mostly an excuse to drink when just drinking is too boring.

Agree about the waitress and Rickety Cricket, however, it is usually dressed up as a joke.

The suburbs just made me realize how dark some of the stuff on this show is because it was not dressed up as a joke. I just did not laugh very much. Am I supposed to be laughing just because Dennis is "naked" and freaking out?

The best gag of the episode is not even mentioned, the room in the house filled with trash and air fresheners nailed to the wall.

>>250556

Yeah I loved the air fresheners all over the trash room, that was great. I also loved Dennis sperging out in traffic about efficiency because I can relate to that.

I just didn't think the suburbs episode was particularly funny in general though. Whereas with Being Frank I was laughing through most of the episode.

What I find interesting is that while some fags just dismiss this season entirely I'm noticing a lot of varying opinions. Every episode has some people saying it's great and some people saying it's shit.

I think if you've been watching Sunny since the beginning you're able to notice the transitional period between seasons 5-6 when Sunny became what it is today. It's not the same and they've been on-and-off experimenting with nontraditional formats. If you're looking for something comparable to the earlier seasons you're inevitably going to be disappointed.

>>250693

The non-traditional stuff is great. The problem is when they do a traditional episode this season it is nothing but callbacks.

Being Frank is great, we even learned a major plot point about frank, a malignant tumor!

Hopefully, Being Frank will be remembered as the turning point when the show wraps itself up.

>>250556

>>250693

Huh, I don't know. I thought the suburbs episode was really funny throughout. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>250777

Suburbs was the best episode they've done since at least the Wade Boggs one. We're finally seeing delivery on some of these teases and you guys are calling it too dark? Dennis is full-on psychopath, Frank is full-on demented due to his brain tumor. They have stepped back on Mac's gayness, perhaps to have some semblance of a straight man, but they've also clarified that he's in love or obsessed with Dennis more than anything.

It seems very likely season 12 will be the last, so I don't blame them for trying different formats or taking things darker. The show was always dark! That's the point of the ironic title. What I do mind are nonstop callbacks like they did in Frank Falls Out The Window. For me, that was easily the worst episode of the series. Even worse than Frank's Brother.

But if the rest of the season is more like the last two episodes than the first two, I think it could be on par with 8, 9 and 10.

Hopefully Frank will survive until the end. I don't think they could pull off a whole season without him now.

>>250693

>you're able to notice the transitional period between seasons 5-6 when Sunny became what it is today.

Nailed it. They peaked at 5 and then afterwards they had to start thinking outside the box. I've still enjoyed new Sunny a whole lot. This current season just has a little more work to do.

>>>/reddit/

>>250896

>>>/cuteboys/

>>250180

It was probably the only good episode in the season so far. It only had one shitty thing and that was terrible techno music but it was part of a bit so it wasn't completely forced or anything it was just slightly annoying and too loud.

>>251081

I don't listen to techno music or anything so I'm not trying to defend it but I think it fit the scene perfectly and wasn't annoying at all

>>250556

>The best gag of the episode is not even mentioned, the room in the house filled with trash and air fresheners nailed to the wall.

tfw I've actually lived in that exact situation. We couldn't be fucked taking out the trash so we just kept piling it up in one room. Soon you get addicted and see how far you can push it.

>>250233

They're gonna forget about it like they forgot Dee's heart condition. Cap it.

>>251081

Saw the episode, I'd easily put it in the top 5 episodes they've ever done. So much hilarity packed into one episode "Outta my way Jews!"

This season is by far the most experimental. So far I'm liking it.

I did like this last episode the best so far. The "I'm full of dog poison" line is probably one of my all time favourites.

>>253697

I agree. They noticed that the series was starting to get stale and are going things to mix up the formula. Some of the episodes are just okay, and some are great like this one. It's going to be a mixed bag whenever you experiment, but I give them props for daring to do something different.

>>250176

I loved how Ponderosa called Frank to come get him at the roller rink after grabbing some girl not so he could drive away, but so he could attempt suicide with a revolver in the car's glove box

>>253931

And in the beginning when he sets up his piss jugs at just the perfect angle to catch both his main piss stream and the smaller one.

>>254118

>>253931

>>252724

So many little things in this episode were great. My brother also pointed out that when Frank walks up to the mirror at the beginning of the episode, he knocks a suitcase over to use as a step stool.

>>256937

One of the best of this season but that's not saying much.

>>256937

It was OK, it was funny to see Del Toro as a McBoyle. Probably second best of the season so far, a little bit too absurdist.

>>256937

way too lol random xddd

>tfw philadelphia is no longer always sunny

>>256937

Definitely my favorite from this season. The hands thing might be one of my favorite jokes in the whole series.

>>256937

Started out good but then devolved into ass pulling with characters like Pappy McPoyle who not only came off as the completely wrong type of insane person compared to the rest of the McPoyle's but was also overacting pretty hard.

>>256937

I thought it was alright. It had a lot of missed potential and felt like it was trying way too hard at parts, though.

The leprechaun one last night was a little better, but not great.

>>256937

jim carrey of the season

4/10

So what do you fags think is the cut off point?

Stopped watching a long time ago. They need to get rid of the old midget kook. Like, do they actually even hang out with this guy outside of the show?

>>256937

HE'S A JEW!!

>>260821

Mac getting fat was when the show jumped the shark for me even though the season itself wasn't terribly bad but it wasn't as good as previous ones.

They had a couple pretty good episodes in seasons following the season where Mac got fat but overall Mac getting fat marked the point where the show started steadily declining with the occasional good episode instead of almost every episode being solid.

>>260821

well season 9 was meh but 10 was almost all great. 11 has been pretty shit.

>>260932

Absolutely. But there have still been plenty of good ones.

>>259574

Pappy McPoyle was in the Ponderosa Wedding Massacre episode delivering lines in the same manner as in that episode.

So what did everyone think of yesterday's episode?

One of the worst so far in my opinion

>>260996

shit. 2 jokes spread out over half an hour

>haha it's called paddy's wagon and dennis is a psychopath so it's a paddywagon lel

>dee makes fun of sterotypes haha

Last two episodes are a two parter called 'The Gang Goes To Hell'.

Here's some spoilers:

It's set on a cruise ship, and the season ends with the gang crashing on an island. The plan is either to have the whole of the next season, or a film, or a couple episodes, of them hanging on the island and surviving.

Inspired by the Archer Vice dynamic shift.

>>260996

Bit empty, but it was good to see that they're not just pushing the psychopath thing for Dennis, but for everyone.

>>260996

It was great to see Dennis taking an interest into running the bar as a business. However, it was great to then see Dennis' psychopathy take over and derail the whole idea.

>>260996

It was okay, pretty par the course for this season.

Like last season where Charlie Work was the only stand-out episode, Being Frank will be the one for this season. The rest are mediocre.

But I'm a long time fan, so I'm still enjoying it.

>>260932

But The Gong Goes to the Jersey Shore, Chardee McDennis, The Gang Gets Trapped and Thundergun Express are some of my favorite episodes of the series…

Frank Reynolds' Little Beauties, The Storm of the Century, and the Highschool Reunion episodes were pretty good too.

In fact, Season 7 was excellent overall now that I think of all those, so Mac getting fat was definitely NOT a cutoff point.

I'm finishing the 6th season.

Is there any drop on quality after that season?

>>264743

I think season 7 is fantastic and has some great episodes. Quality gets spotty after that, but there's still a few standouts you should still watch, like Charlie Work. The good thing about Sunny is you don't reality need continuity to enjoy a single episode.

What did everyone think of the new episode?

A couple of years ago I tried watching the show, but I stopped after the first season because I just didn't find it very funny. Is the first season worse than the following ones, and should I give it a new chance, starting at S2?

>>266129

Pretty shit tbh

>>264743

Season 6 is the definitive point in its decline, but if you love Sunny you'll keep loving it.

>>266219

First season is generally bad. Peaks 2-5.

>>260996

>one of the worst

Literally nothing wrong with that episode. Literally nothing.

>>266129

Mac finally admitting to being a fag works, becoming a nihilist is a bonus. If they backtrack on it, though, I'll be miffed. Mac needs a new direction.

>>267992

I have a feeling it'll be like Mac getting fat. It'll happen for a season, then at the end, all go back to normal, possibly end the show on the note that these fucks will never change.

That underwhelming season finale. Mac is back to not being "gay".

Anyone have the webm of OP's scene?

>>271508

I thought it was decent overall compared to other seasons and compared to this season it was one of the better episodes. The highlight of the episode was probably the imaginary dinner party.

I thought the finale was great. Rolled my eyes at a few parts, as per usual with post season 6 Sunny.

But the pretend dinner was hilarious. Charlie with the flare gun was great.

I predicted Dennis actually had an onion on him but I was still totally caught off guard when he actually pulled it out.

Dee leaving and then quickly reentering upon mention of celebrity impressions was hilarious. The rest of that scene was meh, but I just loved that aspect of it.

I specifically thought that it would be stupid for Mac to recant his gayness on the basis that God exists after pt 1. He walks in and says "I'm gay." and THEN says "I have something to tell you guys: there is no God." He was not gay because there is no God, he was gay because he just banged two gay dudes. So therefore, with God's miracle saving them, that doesn't necessarily mean he's not gay.

But I'm using too much logic, it was really just an excuse for Mac to stay in denial, which really I think he needs to. It would be too weird with him being openly gay for the rest of the series.

>>271980

I think it would be much better if they just had it be "Mac's gay" and leave it at that, there's only so many times you can hint at something, tease it and then redact it before it gets stale.

>>271991

Well I think there will be a new dynamic now where the gang openly talks about it and calls Mac on it, but he stays in denial.

So this entire season was fucking garbage.

"Being Frank" was decent, but everything else was 3/10 or below.

I don't mind so much Mac coming out of the closet and then backpedaling, but holy shit, the reused jokes. The reused jokes are so fucking painful. It's Always Sunny has become Family Guy.

Think of all the jokes this season, and think of how many of them are more-or-less literal "Remember that?" jokes just lifted from previous episodes.

* You have CharDee MacDennis again in a way that brings nothing new (complete with a fucking SAW reference)

* You have a bland 80's movie parody that doesn't land (including nonsense like the announcer knowing what they're doing for no reason other than to be a wacky joke about 80's sports movies)

* You have "Mac is Gay" as a joke told at least once in every fucking episode.

* Mac & Dennis being a married couple as a joke again for like the third fucking time since "Mac & Dennis Break Up"

* Being Frank at least was fresh humor built around the premise of Frank being unreliable, having shit memory, and being a drug abuser. That was a decent episode.

* McPoyle vs Ponderosa is Charlie pretending to be a lawyer yet again, and constantly bringing up "bird law" yet again, and the McPoyles being wacky and incestuous yet again, and the gang calling The Lawyer Jewish without basis yet again, complete with some weird nonsense forced chaos at the end again.

* Charlie Catches a Leprechaun had one new joke, which was pretty much the gang dropping people off in the wilderness over and over again, the rest was just filler around that other than Charlie torturing the midget, which got nowhere. Mostly just re-hammering home the joke that Charlie believes in mystical creatures.

* The Gang Goes To Hell was just retellings of old jokes in both parts. Both episodes were massive rehashes of jokes from "The DENNIS System", "The Gang Buys a Boat", "The Gang Solves the Gas Crisis", not to mention yet again the "Dee is wrathful and crass" jokes, "Mac is gay and won't admit it" jokes to only bring up a few. The pretend dinner was actually alright in parts, and the flare gun had potential but didn't really land as a joke. The onion thing was obvious. Dennis tearing up when they mentioned the onion thing like 2 minutes prior was horrible timing for a joke. I was actually looking forward to Mac being gay because maybe they'd have real new material to work with rather than retelling the same jokes around him being in the closet over and over again. The ending with them not actually being dead was way too fucking obvious from the beginning of the previous episode.

That's the worst thing. More than half of the jokes are just retellings of old jokes in new situations now. The jokes that are actually new usually don't land.

The series has been downhill since season 7 (with a few nuggets of gold in the mix like "The Gang Tries Desparately to Win an Award" and "The Gang Gets Quarantined"), and now there is no real other way to describe it than a live-action Family Guy with the characters from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

It's pure pain to see the best show on TV turn into what it is. One passable episode in one terrible season is unacceptable.

>>272520

>the Gang Hits the Slopes was bad

Oh please, that was the jewel of this season. There was also nothing wrong with the Leprechaun episode. I will seriously agree with the reused jokes and the Mac thing, I was actually very annoyed that they reverted on that. Being Frank should've been a two-parter.

>>272520

This. Mac is proving to be ugh and the recycled jokes are a sure sign of how low things are going to get.

>>272520

I agree with everything you wrote.

>>273106

>>272997

>>272520

I'm genuinely really glad that I'm not as miserable as a person as you folks are.

>>273826

Amazing! Got part 2?

>>273813

Why is it that you always get accused of being a nofun faggot for the simple offense of not enjoying something? You are absolutely deluded if you think this is anywhere near the quality of even the first season.

>>273826

I felt the Dee implication could have been very funny if it didn't have the context of Dennis'. Dennis talking about his implication and Dee following up felt forced.

If she had brought it up independently, like while talking to somebody and without knowledge of Dennis' system, that could have been funny on multiple levels. That Dee is essentially a rapist pressuring people into sex could have been great. Then the joke is in the unwitting similarity of the twins rape techniques, when in the episode it just felt like a rehash piggybacking on the same joke and bringing nothing of substance.

>>274537

"Nowhere near the quality of the first season" is a far cry from "fucking garbage."

This is still better than 99% of other TV comedies currently airing.

>>274537

Wait what, the first season as in pre-Frank? Shit that was practically Friends level of gayness and close to being cancelled.

>>274597

"Nowhere near the quality of the first season" describes an entire range from "the worst thing anybody has ever watched" all the way up to "not nearly as good as the first season", a range that includes "fucking garbage".

And that latter point isn't a real point. That's like saying it's OK to flunk a class if most of the other kids are already doing worse than you. A shit show is a shit show, regardless of what other shit TV gets aired.

>>274825

No, that's fucking stupid. You compare things to other things similar to it. You don't just set a line and then tell everyone that everything below it is garbage in order to feel like you're a "patrician" to some 19 year old autists.

>>275263

That's what I'm doing. I'll make it simple for you. Before this season, the first one was the worst. Now season 11 is the worst, with many episodes dropping below Family Guy in quality.

>>274537

>quality of even the first season

But the first season was really rough and none of the characters match what they are after that season.

Everyone in s1 just acted like a normal white person that had stupid shit happen to them. It wasn't until Frank arrived that they became the horrible scum everyone loves.

>>275373

Exactly.

>>275364

>with many episodes dropping below Family Guy in quality

Anon, I know you probably hear this a lot, but you just have shit taste. It's okay if you think that what you're saying is true, but it's objectively wrong.

>>276849

No, it's right. Several episodes were almost 100% reference humor, particularly the first episode in the season. If you thought anything but Being Frank was in any way acceptable, your taste is absolute shit.

I think the season has been hit or miss, largely due to them going experimental with a lot of the episodes.

It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, though. If they hadn't started going outside the box, people would complain the show was stale and tired. When they do wild episodes people complain "it's different" and "not the show I fell in love with".

>>277068

They weren't experimental, everything this season did that wasn't like Always Sunny is something that a billion other shows have done to absolute death.

It was the complete opposite of experimental they flat out stuck with tried and true things other shows had done before even though it didn't fit into the style of the show at all.

>>272520

I think the season was strong. Mac and Dennis Move to the Suburbs and Being Frank were the funniest episodes I've seen in a while. I also liked how comfy The Gang Goes to Hell was. I like episodes where the gang are stuck together and hating each other. Hell pt 2 reminded me a lot of a Seinfeld type episode like The Chinese Restaurant or The Parking Lot.

>>277068

No, they went out of the box with Being Frank, and it was the only good episode the season. Every other episode was copying other shows or repeating old jokes.

>>277237

>how comfy The Gang Goes to Hell was.

Oh yeah, it's real comfy. It's like just rewatching all the old episodes that introduced all the jokes told in that episode. You could describe it as "comfy", but the only part that could be called "funny" was the dinner scene. Everything else was garbage.

>>277261

There were plenty of jokes that weren't old references.

Also, why is referencing a bad thing? I can see if it's used in lieu of jokes it would be detrimental but they're making jokes about the old jokes. It's not 1:1. These guys have been through so many insane misadventures yet refuse to change anything about themselves. If anything they double down on their depravity. No hugging, no learning.

>>277269

They used to just make jokes you know. 90% of their jokes are just bringing up an old joke and trying to build on it until it's a new joke and it doesn't work.