Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:00:13 dba7ad No. 14
ideas, rules, etc.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:03:00 6a5b6a No. 16
This sounds good as an index thread and for projects that need to get off the ground, but we should have separate threads for each topic if they're going to be major.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:04:07 dba7ad No. 17
Basic idea so far is: There are recipes for making fusion princesses.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:07:42 aea3c7 No. 18
>>17 Not a bad idea, but would this mean giving up wealth and power stats? Those represent the kingdoms and not the individual.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:12:39 dba7ad No. 21
>>18 I was thinking the Fusion Princesses would have stats equivalent to the stats of the princesses sacrificed and then some.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:14:22 aea3c7 No. 23
>>21 I figured, but it's a bit of a paradox if your own stats wage war on you.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:16:30 dba7ad No. 24
>>23 Maybe in that case, defeating that country can convert them to your side, like a beat them into submission sort of deal?
Alternatively, by sacrificing the requisite princess, you summon a princess from an alternate dimension who's ready to back you up complete with an alt dimension army.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:18:59 6a5b6a No. 25
>>17 The countries of the princesses sacrificed split in civil war. Some support their new combined princess, the rest rebel. Your new combined kingdom has the higher of the two kingdom's wealth, -1, and the higher of the two kingdom's power, -1.
The original two kingdoms also lose -1 from wealth and power, then ally and attack you.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:18:53 aea3c7 No. 26
>>24 Possibly. I think it should be more of a proper fusion like the ones we have. It could just sacrifice a certain item like a dowry, companion, or lust item as a reagent for the fusion. Less messy that way.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:20:04 dba7ad No. 27
Oh also, Dawn/Dusk Elf Princess is a bit of a mouthful.
What about Time Elf Princess? Twilight Elf princess?
The purple dragon queen also technically isn't a fusion. It's fanart of something.
>>25 That sounds fair and balanced.
>>26 I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:24:28 aea3c7 No. 28
>>27 Like this.
Dawn Elf + Dusk Elf + <Insert dowry/lust item/bonus here>* = fusion
*lost forever after using it for a fusion
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:27:15 dba7ad No. 31
>>28 Any idea for what dowry Twilight Elf Princess needs? I'mma look through everything and make some suggestions too.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:29:54 dba7ad No. 34
>>28 What about the clockwork dildo?
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:30:04 6a5b6a No. 35
>>28 Or, to illustrate the other,
Dawn Elf 2/0
Dusk Elf 1/1
Twilight Elf: 1/0, attacked by Dawn Elf 1/0, Dusk Elf 0/0. Hrm. Maybe not the best way to go.
OTOH, this way allows creative triple princesses
Witch Princess 1/4
Imp Princess 2/1
Jester Princess 2/4
How it works depends on the order you go in, but I think that's fine.
Witch + Imp: 1/3, attacked by Witch 0/3 and Imp 1/0.
Witch/Imp/Jester: 1/3, attacked by 0/3, 1/0, and Jester 1/3
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:32:14 aea3c7 No. 36
>>34 That works, or Desire's Mirror. Something kind of related like duality in the elves.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:31:53 dba7ad No. 37
>>35 Why not +1 instead of -1.
Triple fusions are added at the same time instead, rather than (A+B)+C, it'll be A+B+C
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:33:55 dba7ad No. 38
>>36 If it's duality, what about Lust Dubloon?
Cat Princess + Dog Princess = Beast Princess?
Mouse + Insect = Pestilence Princess?
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:34:26 6a5b6a No. 39
>>37 -1 on the empire that you create is a cost that replaces the dowry cost, and it creates diminishing returns that makes fusions peter out… eventually… you can get pretty far by manipulating fusion order, but if you do that you're also creating a huge string of angry empires to fight.
-1 on the empires that oppose you is just a "feels right" decision. If a portion of their populace revolts to support the new princess, they should be weaker. You could make it +1 to make fusion princesses more expensive.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:37:00 aea3c7 No. 41
>>38 Yeah, those sound kick ass actually.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:38:07 dba7ad No. 42
>>39 Maybe -1 BEFORE you defeat the empire warring against you, but +1 AFTER you defeat it?
Fusion Princesses can have their own dowries and lust bonuses too or something.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:41:28 6a5b6a No. 43
>>42 Yes! Because you absorb their conquered lands.
But I think if stringing fusions together is allowed, the second fusion should always be based on the -1 version of the source kingdoms.
But, okay, you make Twilight princess because of course you do. She starts out at 1/0. Does she jump to 2/1 after conquering one elf kingdom and then 3/2 after conquering the other, or does she jump to 2/1 after conquering both kingdoms?
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:44:36 dba7ad No. 44
>>43 2/1 after both kingdoms.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 13:45:31 dba7ad No. 46
>>43 Actually, I'm starting to lean towards 3/2 after both.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 14:16:50 dba7ad No. 61
Random idea:
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 14:20:04 aea3c7 No. 62
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 14:37:28 dba7ad No. 71
>>62 Something like this. I'll fix the hands, though.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:09:06 6a5b6a No. 78
>>71 I have to admit the idea has no attraction for me, but I like your art, so if it keeps you interested in the project, finish it.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:10:32 dba7ad No. 79
>>78 Already done, actually.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:15:30 6a5b6a No. 81
>>79 Not bad actually. What's the green thing meant to be? A core?
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:16:45 6a5b6a No. 82
>>79 Crystal + Cum Princess = Glow Princess.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:17:02 dba7ad No. 83
>>81 Yeah, actually. Slime Princess's core to be exact. I wanted the green vines to be more 'veiny', but it's a little hard to do without the use of layers
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:17:30 4cf6b0 No. 84
Dare I?
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:20:06 dba7ad No. 85
>>84 Go ahead and give it a try.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:29:38 6a5b6a No. 87
>>84 in b4 dick gets bigger every time.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:31:03 dba7ad No. 88
>>87 inb4 central fusion has three dicks
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:31:29 6a5b6a No. 89
>>83 If it's on a separate layer you should give it some alpha channel.
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:33:52 dba7ad No. 91
>>89 It's all on one layer, unfortunately.
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 15:49:17 6a5b6a No. 98
Well. I think it could be more obvious that it's a core. Maybe focus on that black circle first? Faded it a little.
http://www.ehow.com/how_8573405_blend-colors-ms-paint.html
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 16:02:52 dba7ad No. 108
>>98 So something like this?
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 16:09:37 fe7d50 No. 112
>>110 That's just Boy Princess covered in cum, isn't it?
Princess Frankenstein 03/26/15 (Thu) 16:11:15 dba7ad No. 114
>>112 No. That's boy princess as a cum-o-mancer
Anonymous 03/26/15 (Thu) 16:46:42 6a5b6a No. 126
Could you do another silly reference princess like Twilight Princess? Make a Cat + Rabbit princess that blends Cat, Rabbit, and Bunny?
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 00:53:21 4a8e85 No. 249
If I could do more then edit sprites poorly I'd attempt this myself.
Princess Frankenstein 03/27/15 (Fri) 02:47:28 dba7ad No. 308
>>126 Cat + Rabbit Princess + Sleek Collar=Fluffy Princess.
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 04:01:14 b3fe70 No. 343
>>339 that's certainly Imp and Succubus Princess.
what about succubus and witch?
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 04:15:59 4a8e85 No. 353
>>339 That actually look's really good so far keep it up!
>>343 In a Hex fusion there are four new drawings that is Imp x Succubus, there is still Imp x Witch and Witch x Succubus, the middle fusion.
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 04:22:12 4a8e85 No. 358
>>343 Have a visual representation.
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 04:25:10 f63ea1 No. 359
>>343 I'll do those tomorrow since I need to do some monsta hunstan
Anonymous 03/27/15 (Fri) 06:24:00 3271e7 No. 401
Insect and Drider would be neat to see
Anonymous 03/28/15 (Sat) 01:41:46 4a8e85 No. 750
I 'd like to see Mimic princess become the loyal knight's armor for Ace if he chooses her.
Anonymous 03/29/15 (Sun) 02:41:49 4a8e85 No. 1279
Rolling Thunder 03/30/15 (Mon) 00:22:30 adf0e5 No. 1482
Reposting from 4chan
Hello, here's a knight I drew, inspired by the artist Yves Klein.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Klein A mad knight who thinks all that is blue belongs to him, mostly a spear wielder and a pompous attitude for piety.
Should I draw him more/develop more ideas about him?
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 00:31:15 0e3eef No. 1483
>>1482 His source material seems like a pretty colorful (pun intended) guy. He seems like a good non player character though. Or do you think people that would play as him would have to be inclined to only take blue princesses?
Rolling Thunder 03/30/15 (Mon) 00:35:27 adf0e5 No. 1487
I was assuming he was going to be an NPC, sort of like a random event character if the knights try to rescue a blue princess, sort of a rival I guess.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 00:42:43 0e3eef No. 1489
>>1487 Ah, got ya. Yeah then, seems legit. Would be fun in a game-sense if the towers themselves are sort of challenges all the way up, but then there is usually a sort of victory lap up the final staircase at the end of which the essential 'Princess, I've come for you!' moment happens, but where there are blue princesses you unexpectedly open the door to find this asshole sneering at you. Would be a nice curveball for players.
Rolling Thunder 03/30/15 (Mon) 00:54:38 adf0e5 No. 1494
>>1489 Yup, you got the idea sort of like getting invaded in DS.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 02:40:25 0e3eef No. 1535
>>1494 Perfect. Like a more cock-blocky Lautrec, but Blue instead of 'The Goddess'
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 06:27:59 16ccd5 No. 1647
Unyin 03/30/15 (Mon) 06:35:06 6232b5 No. 1648
>>1647 Book Princess a cute.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 08:55:16 ce80ee No. 1662
>>1647 >can still give you a papercut though FUCK
NOPE
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 13:22:56 6a5b6a No. 1669
Anonymous 03/31/15 (Tue) 19:38:06 6a5b6a No. 2079
Proposed rules:
Anonymous 04/01/15 (Wed) 03:20:20 4a8e85 No. 2163
>>2079 So if you fuse only two princess will the output only have two +?
Anonymous 04/01/15 (Wed) 03:38:05 4a8e85 No. 2165
>>14 What if you could get upgraded versions of your princess?
Like in Mermaid Princess as she is becoming ubsessed with the idea of having legs and not suffocating on land, she might use the humble trident on herself to become Human Princess II. Or Give Royal Jelly to Knight Princess to make her a Pretty Princess. And because they would now have feet and breasts respectively they might be into using them and lose a dislike.
Anonymous 04/01/15 (Wed) 19:24:36 6a5b6a No. 2290
>>2163 I consider that to be a part of the "cost" of fusing princesses. You get to tailor your +'s but you lose one.
TBH the gamer in me knows that it's still balanced in favor of fusing, because of the tailoring part, but it at least looks like a cost.
Princess Frankenstein 04/02/15 (Thu) 16:42:21 dba7ad No. 2472
Fluffy princess finished. I'm so sorry about the color scheme but I couldn't resist.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 16:51:00 c06144 No. 2474
>>2472 Goddamn son why are you so based
Princess Frankenstein 04/02/15 (Thu) 16:53:04 dba7ad No. 2475
>>2474 I'm a very lonely person with very little to do in life.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 16:55:47 c06144 No. 2477
>>2475 why you gotta make me feel
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 17:51:02 004cf5 No. 2615
Requesting mimic+assassin+dog, the bad end trio. Bonus points if their negatives pull an eternal darkness and cancel each other out, forging a good end.
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 18:01:26 aea3c7 No. 2617
>>2615 Dog doesn't get you killed. She's just a poor choice if you're not prepared but hardly a Bad End. You get a lovey dovey end.
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 20:17:34 004cf5 No. 2625
>>2617 No, you don't die, but look at what happens when you rescue her: She is always there. Always. It took a positive and two negatives to describe the depth of that always. How do you think that's going to affect your interaction with your other princesses? It's going to be hard to raise anyone's love or lust when a </3 netorare monomaniac is always there to intervene.
Furthermore, if you should accidentally bring her to max lust, she destroys everything most people play this game to achieve by trashing your entire harem. I tried to make light of it in the other thread, but that is bad end right there.
Compare mimic. Mimic isn't even written to kill you, which makes her less of a Bad End than the Assassin, who has an obligation to see you die. She was *supposed* to be a bad end but people ended up loving her anyways. That's where you are with dog right now, you need her to be a real choice because you're enamored of the bad end she represents. All you've really demonstrated is that yandere is a much more popular and socially acceptable fetish than vore.
Dog ruins your build if you take her concept at all seriously, just like assassin, just like mimic. Yes, you can gloss over her drawbacks, like Wagon Knight does with Mimic princess, or you can work counters into your build to try to neutralize her, but she's still the bad end of gen iii
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 23:24:58 aea3c7 No. 2867
>>2625 Classic Mimic definitely ate you, that got lost in lewd edition I guess. But she's still a mimic and if you run out of things to feed her with it's not unlikely that she'll try to eat you too. In fact, Monk Courtier was given an ability to stop that from happening. Sure it mentions princesses hurting you in general, but Mimic was one of the main princesses/reasons mentioned for including this ability.
As for the other two. Assassin is implied to be a story hook rather than a bad end. At least it came across this way when we were statting her. It's often forgotten but there's a whole bunch of adventuring/travelling and character (love/lust increasing) interaction implied before you settle back down in your kingdom. It's going for that sort of drama rather than giving you a Game Over.
Same with Dog actually, if anything it was her yandere fetish thing people had in mind first and less giving the player a bad end. Since you can rescue the princesses from the Dog Dungeons (not really mentioned on the chart sadly but talked about sometimes after she was finished being statted) and it was kept in mind that many people would go monogamous and so not everything is meant for harem seekers. It's really only inconvenient for harem players at most.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 23:50:33 004cf5 No. 2872
>>2867 >yandere fetish thing people had in mind first and less giving the player a bad end These are literally the first five results from a GIS on yandere. Only the fifth does not directly reference bloodshed.
Yandere end *is* bad end, just like vore end is a bad end. You like it. That's fine. I like it. I have that fetish. But you're romanticizing it way too much.
And even if you scale Dog back to not be violent, she will always be with you. That's awkward for more than just going to the bathroom, even if you're not trying to build up a harem behind her back.
Find me one yandere series that doesn't revolve around what a bad idea it is to date a yandere and I will watch the shit out of it, because I would love that.
Then you need to scrub your brain clean and re-read her, because what's actually written there is a murderer. 100% kill rate, wants to kill you, you don't know she wants to kill you until she's on top of you.
I'm with you on the story hook idea, I really am. I think Mimic and Dog are just story hooks too, but they all represent these high entropy storylines that end badly more often than not.
Think of it like a visual novel. You pick the girl next door, you're not expecting blood. You pick the yandere, you know it's going to be exactly one right way to avoid the bad end, and the existence of that one right way does not make the yandere suddenly comparable to the girl next door.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 08:28:02 60c213 No. 2964
I made some
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 09:19:05 5f0f54 No. 2980
>>2872 >Then you need to scrub your brain clean and re-read her, because what's actually written there is a murderer. 100% kill rate, wants to kill you, you don't know she wants to kill you until she's on top of you. I actually do see that as a story hook. I hardly think she was expecting her assassination target to come save her life and rescue her from a tower, and I can very easily see that spinning off into her being torn between her duty as an assassin and her gratitude to you.
A cute ninja girl is going to have a much broader appeal than to just people who get off on violence and murder, so I think it's a waste to say that's the only role she can ever fulfill.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 09:28:11 d40435 No. 2981
>>2980 This. We actually didn't stat her as the bad end of Gen II. She has a 100% kill rate up to that point, doesn't mean that can't drop to 99% on your adventure. Or that she even knows if you're the target. No one was thinking of her as mimic tier up until now.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 13:35:48 6a5b6a No. 3000
>>2980 >that's the only role she can ever fulfill. Well this is our confusion right here. I never said the only role she can fill is death, I've actually said several times now that I'm with you on the story hook thing.
I like Dog. When I first read her she seemed like a total pain with insufficient reward. The only reason she grew on me is because of the efforts of the community to give her a different personality from what's written down. That doesn't change the fact that the way she is written, she is bad end all over.
Same for assassin. Personally I've got no reason to like her, but I've got nothing against her either. Saying she isn't mimic tier is technically correct, but whatever your intentions were, she isn't mimic tier because she's
written to be
more dangerous than mimic.
If you take either of them, either you're going for some of the hardest ends in the game, which is fine, that's what hard ends are for, or your head canon has overpowered your ability to read.
It's actually a little insulting that you want to trivialize the challenge of these princesses. "Oh, it says she wants to kill you but you can just handwave that" is like saying "Touhou is hard but you can always use trainers."
They're not like the other princesses, it's not a walk in the park to pick them up. They're bad ends you have to escape if you want them in your party, just like mimic.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 19:05:33 5f0f54 No. 3040
>>3000 'Routes that have Assassin Princess should address the fact that she'll kill you if you don't do anything about it', is the point that we both agree on, then?
I'm getting super confused as to which anon is holding which opinion… I just felt the need to protest the implications that I'm deluding myself somehow in thinking that I an take Assassin without bad-end.
A knight who's picked up Clockwork Heart is going to be infuriatingly hard to kill by normal assassination techniques, so why not write down a romcom series of errors as she tries and fails to off the knight, her cover of a doting princess eventually leading to a real blossoming romance?
Why not stall and woo her, and have some Pheonix Ashes and the Humble Trident on hand and use your free revive to let her keep her perfect K/D ratio when the time finally comes that she can't put off her contract any longer?
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 19:14:32 6a5b6a No. 3045
>>3040 >is the point that we both agree on, then? Yup. Love your builds.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 02:25:08 60c213 No. 3123
>>2964 lol I made another one
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 06:18:14 5f0f54 No. 3143
>>3123 'Endless Convention Kingdom'.
…I'm having a hard time picturing that.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 13:33:35 6a5b6a No. 3167
>>3143 I'm not. It's both perfect and terrible.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 18:20:02 e1a7b5 No. 3198
>>3123 > </3 Criticism I kek'd a bit. Nice work
Kaiju 04/07/15 (Tue) 14:06:30 3ce27a No. 3278
First princess I've tried to make. Any thoughts?
Anonymous 04/07/15 (Tue) 16:00:37 c1e6d5 No. 3292
>>3278 It's Bebas Nue and 04b_19. Bebas Nue at 16 seems to be right for 90% of the chart, but the character name is in 04b_19 and is larger.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 00:14:10 c06144 No. 3355
>>3278 Concept's nice, but the wording of her pros and cons paint her more like a generic oc than a proper Godzilla homage, and her gifts don't benefit the player character– unless she's intended for Gryphon's gen, in which case disregard that. The writing and wording are generally sketchy as well.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 05:04:15 7c1ae3 No. 3394
>>2964 What is owlbear princesses' lust gift? Or did you not think of something?
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 08:48:03 60c213 No. 3427
>>3394 Yeah, couldn't think of anything and left it on the shelf