Enemies and Monsters Generals Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 19:39:53 f6dc7b No. 2803
This thread is dedicated to the monsters and enemies you will fight in the Towergirls universe
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 19:43:38 f6dc7b No. 2805
Maybe we could use this chart for a start.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 19:46:43 021358 No. 2807
So of course I'm not going to shit on any ideas, but if you need a starting point, pick a knight or princess, and imagine what their army must look like.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 19:51:02 f6dc7b No. 2808
>>2807 Actually, I was thinking about rogue army, wild things and ancient evil that might be a direct threat to the knight (or the princess)
Maybe we could make a army setting thing in another thread
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 19:58:16 021358 No. 2810
>>2808 I'm going to encourage the same thing. Instead of picking a knight or princess, pick some other theme, but make sure you have two or three units that go together somehow.
Also, simpler chart maybe?
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:03:10 3de2a6 No. 2811
Some monster ideas.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:09:43 021358 No. 2814
Okay, so, there are a lot of awesome monster ideas, but some monsters just don't seem important enough. Instead of trying to window dress them into a full encounter… put them in a bigger encounter.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:13:07 f7199a No. 2815
>>2803 We should give them the same stats as the monsters from the bonus sheet.
I'd say we come up with about 3 per tower? Guards for each dowry and princess?
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:31:32 021358 No. 2820
>>2815 I think we should just leave them unlinked. It's a pot of monsters, put your hand in, take one out.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:37:05 f7199a No. 2822
>>2820 Well as the guy making the kingdom building card game I'm hoping that I can crib some stuff off this thread to link things together you know?
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:38:13 f6dc7b No. 2823
>>2807 Ok, here are the chart of the now
(we just working on the mechanics)
Let's say there are 3 levels of monsters:
Level 1 are given 6 max points to give on the chart. Level 2, 9 max points and level 3 : 12)
For each positive perk, a monster should have one another negative (until a max of 3 negative)
I have made a temporary chart with and without special skill.
What do you think of this ?
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:39:05 f7199a No. 2824
>>2822 The original idea I had was that the monsters of the towers would be diametrically opposed to whatever the princess in them wanted.
Like Skeleton Princess would be guarded not by undead but by holy prudes.
And Goblin Princess by lifeless, unable to reproduce automatons.
Golem Princess by hedonist tactophiles.
Things like that.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:46:24 021358 No. 2827
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:46:35 f6dc7b No. 2828
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:48:14 f6dc7b No. 2830
>>2827 I just wanted to make people make unbalanced hulks
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 20:50:47 f7199a No. 2831
>>2823 I say we make monsters super simple.
Health, Power, Speed, and maybe "Monster" stat. How lacking in understandibility they are. a Cthulhu beast would be 5 monster. A humanoid monster might be 0-1 monster. A beast or dragon might be between 2-4?
Just those stats, and a description and special power? Or perhaps a strength and a weakness rather than a special power?
We make them in groups of 3. Three to a princess. Each one thematically linked to be the things that cause a princess distress.
So whatever a princess hates or goes against her general themes? That's what will be in the tower.
That's how the princesses are kept trapped, especially the combat monsters.
The dragon princesses instead have vassals thematically linked to them, their servants.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 21:04:59 021358 No. 2834
>>2830 So far people have avoided doing that with princesses and knights without special rules.
Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 21:14:12 39ca57 No. 2835
Idea for most plentiful minion enemy.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 00:07:06 5a4db2 No. 2877
>>2824 I remember back from the first thread Gats had some angry bird girl as a low level enemy. So cheese cake may be a good starting point.
Like Skeleton Princess could be guarded by the rejected Nun Princess, although they'd probably just be nuns.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 00:09:49 b33ca7 No. 2878
>>2824 >>2877 "Go forth, and liberate sexy skeleton from that convent of nuns!"
I vote nunjas.Nunjas and a giant floating/hovering nun for the final guardian.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 00:55:41 5a4db2 No. 2885
>>2878 >I vote nunjas Are you suggesting some sort of fusion between a nun and a ninja?
Also did anyone save that picture of the chastity belt Nun Princess? I think that would be a good place too start.
Also I just recalled that in gats original video game version there was a system to damage clothing.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 01:09:16 021358 No. 2887
Personally I'm against this thematic opposite idea because it undermines the premise of the gain.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 01:17:31 5a4db2 No. 2889
>>2887 Well, how about this there are several enemies reoccurring enemies who work for or are residents of Grand Tower Kingdom. Plus DPII defiantly has some levels in caster so she could summon up some monsters for the first two gens.
There are no enemies in Gen III inside the towers just traps, poison gas at the lowest levels and a phantasmal Knight.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 03:36:27 f7199a No. 2904
>>2889 DPIII's minions aren't actually her minions so much as people who take advantage of her presence.
Same deal with the others. They're weak and have much to gain from weakening the kingdoms being attacked.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 04:15:24 5a4db2 No. 2911
>>2904 I honestly like the idea that you face no minions before the final boss battle it really drums up the hype and shadow runners.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 07:09:26 5f22de No. 2945
>>2889 I like to think a lot of the enemies you end up facing (in the lair areas at least) aren't even guards or warriors. They're just eccentric and quirky servants or aristocracy living with the Dragon Princess.
Kobold maids who are also top tier boxers trained under a really hotblooded and melodramatic butler.
Super cartoony and weird stuff like that.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 07:42:34 7b6084 No. 2953
This is a cute idea. No idea how it'd be implemented in the whole CYOA thing, though.
Maybe monsters based on the "homeland" flavor text of the various princesses. Something thematic, you know?
Also
>>2835 i love the hell out of tower skeletons
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 08:54:44 b0ae13 No. 2971
Perhaps instead of general mobs there should rival kingdoms/leaders that are out to fuck you up.
Sketchy 04/05/15 (Sun) 09:59:43 3de2a6 No. 2984
I have a bit of an idea for mounts that might be stupid but I imagine a scenario where the mounts choose their knights.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 10:37:32 1786c5 No. 2987
Enemy: The Blue Footed Titty Stealer.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 13:03:52 33ffd3 No. 2996
I'm thinking the compromise here between infinite resources and random hobo monsters is to give the Tower Kingdom a relatively small set of organizations that support it, and reuse them as needed.
So, a priory of the wyrm so we can have nunjas and dragon paladins, a society of artificers since
>>2835 is our first real contribution and it's adorable, etc.
They're not the thematic opposite of any one princess but they each of a small set of princesses where they make more sense than others. The nunjas and paladins patrol the undead and demon princesses, for example.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 15:43:32 15623a No. 3004
>>2971 That would have looked badass if not for the goofy ass panda.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 16:29:16 33ffd3 No. 3185
Can anyone point me to nun princess? Depending on how she's drawn maybe I can photochop a nunja.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 14:54:31 75db86 No. 3443
Skeletal Foot-Soldier
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 16:45:16 251372 No. 3449
>>3443 Wow. These are both really good.
Having random drops listed from them is interesting, though. What kind of game do you imagine Towergirls being, that made you include those? MMO-esque? modern Castlevania-esque?
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 16:47:34 79b718 No. 3451
>>3449 What I'm worried about is where we put it. Wagon has limited space.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 16:56:32 75db86 No. 3453
>>3449 There's quite a bit of Dark Souls influencing my thoughts, and some Diablo. I imagine the drops to be consumable items.
Hardtack is a notoriously tough cracker which I imagine would be a health restorative.
Bonemeal I feel would contain magical essences from fallen warriors, and could be a mana restorative for respective knights.
Mourning Cap is a mushroom that I believe would grow on vast fields where a lot of soldiers have fallen. It could be an alchemical ingredient.
These could be held in a side-pouch or something so they won't take up wagon space.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 16:59:45 75db86 No. 3455
>>3453 To expand, I like to imagine Tower Girls as an RPG where every princess has 2-3 zones acting as a sort of gauntlet leading up to a 'final' boss which earns you your princess.
In my spare time I like to come up with fictional locations to explore, drawing up cartographic maps in my mind and writing brief descriptions for them.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 19:03:18 251372 No. 3471
>>3453 It's increasingly bugging me that I never played that game. It's not even the sort of thing I really enjoy, but it's become such a touchstone for gaming lately that I'm starting to lose pace because I don't understand references to it.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 19:22:23 75db86 No. 3475
>>3471 I wouldn't recommend playing it if medieval RPGs aren't your thing. I like it because its setting is interesting and the lore is extensive while only being told through NPC dialogue and item descriptions. You can tell that a lot of love went into its design, and the gameplay shows that too by being difficult, but fair and rewarding.
What you'll hear the most in regards to Dark Souls is that it's impossibly hard. While it's certainly challenging, anybody with the right amount of persistence and will to experiment with different strategies can make it through to the end alone. Even if you hit a seemingly-impossible section, you can summon another player into your world to help guide you through.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 19:27:48 251372 No. 3477
>>3475 I loved X-Com, Viewtiful Joe, and Ninja Gaiden to death and those are also games with a reputation for punishing difficulty, so that's not necessarily it.
My main issue is that I have the PC port of the game and it's just awful to play with a keyboard and the game throws up constant errors if I try and use a gamepad.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 19:29:34 75db86 No. 3478
>>3477 I don't know much about the PC port besides the fact that it's pretty much garbage in terms of performance. There are some fixes out there that make the game playable, but I don't know anything about them. Wish I could help more.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 20:08:44 75db86 No. 3483
>>3443 Rendered the foot-soldier digitally.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 20:34:28 5f22de No. 3484
>>3483 Cool! So do you think this sort of enemy would be guarding a princess that would likely hate undead or are they turncoats guarding someone like Ghost and Skeleton?
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 20:39:04 5c1937 No. 3485
>>3477 PC Port is garbage, yeah. I think there are some mods that fix that kind of stuff, but I don't know much about them. Dark Souls is definitely worth the extra effort to fix, though.
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 20:41:08 75db86 No. 3486
>>3484 I didn't have a specific princess in mind when I designed the enemy, but I suppose Human Princess would be a decent fit. These soldiers seek a princess to guard with their lives once more, so it would make sense that they'd capture a human princess first. They're pretty vanilla enemies anyway.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 22:00:39 f7199a No. 3501
>>3486 Works, also super skinny and don't need to be cooked for, so they'd fit perfectly as her antithesis.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 23:08:35 251372 No. 3518
>>3516 I like it! What do you use to ink/color?
Unyin 04/08/15 (Wed) 23:25:04 75db86 No. 3521
>>3518 Paint Tool SAI. I've been using the binary brush.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 12:56:48 33ffd3 No. 3615
>>3501 > they'd fit perfectly as her antithesis. >>3486 >They're pretty vanilla enemies anyway. I definitely think they could be reused for multiple princesses.
These guys and the little clockwork tower dude can actually fit together under a magically animated theme. Tower Kingdom doesn't have a lot of people, but it does have enchantment to spare for making minions.
I still want nunjas. Maybe they're the sect that does all the animating for the tower kingdom? Also, I always picture Tower Girls as a Metroidvania violating Ghosts and Goblins with a broomstick.
Unyin 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:24:14 d40402 No. 3619
>>3455 I was getting all squeaky-clean in the shower and had an idea. In the case that Towergirls is a video game with this system, how about each 'gauntlet' features a knight that you have to rescue from a 'sticky situation.' Rescuing the knight allows him to be selected for future runs so there's always incentive to go back and mix/match gauntlet runs with different knights.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:37:10 5f22de No. 3620
>>3619 I'd think some would be random encounters. Like Yven (mini boss, blue knight) who is supposed to be a 1/20 odds to show up in you adventure at all and 1/4 chance to show up when rescuing a blue princess.
There could be enemies/rivals (of varying strength. Some can be like SA-X from Metroid Fusion if you're unlucky) and allies (some that need rescuing and others that just so happen to be fighting in the same area as you're exploring. Not your friend but not your enemy either)
Unyin 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:40:46 d40402 No. 3621
>>3620 I like that idea. Chalking some encounters up to RNG ensures no two players have the exact same experience.
Unyin 04/09/15 (Thu) 16:19:33 d40402 No. 3622
Anybody have ideas for grunt enemies corresponding with certain princesses and their thematic gauntlets? I've got a lot of downtime ahead of me and I'd like to crank out some doodles.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 16:41:29 5f22de No. 3624
>>3622 I feel Kobold would have stealthier enemies and maybe some ice themed opponents. Kobolds may use the dark to their advantage but even they as miners hate when it's used against them. As reptiles they prefer warm environments, so to keep her weak they probably made her area colder and put enemies more suited to frigid environments.
Penguins? Ice golems which are totally not snow men. A variation of those towerling automatons but with a beartrap for a face.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 16:58:48 183ca1 No. 3625
>>3622 Tower grunts in mailman hats either dual-wielding those little conical vacuum cleaners or full size ones for dog princess.
Towergrunts with cleaning supplies to threaten slime princess.
Towergrunt Von Pelt to keep hunting down Amazon Princess every time she breaks out.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 17:26:12 5f22de No. 3626
>>3624 Cockatrice based on Gat's cockatrice/harpy enemy design. Would be common when rescuing Harpy as they are rival birds and also can be threatening fast opponents in groups with a nasty stunning surprise if you're not careful. In general she'd have wind and electric based enemies and obstacles. Things that make it difficult to fly.
Unyin 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:10:06 d40402 No. 3628
>>3624 Two variants of a grunt penguin and an assassin. I like to imagine the penguins are a bit unethical and deploy children as assassins because of their small size and ability to deceive with cute looks.
oops they look like dicks fuck
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:09:28 5f22de No. 3630
>>3628 >oops they look like dicks fuck I tend to think Towergirls is one of those settings that would be kind of dark if it were played a bit more realistically but it's lighthearted due to a combo of visuals, luck, circumstance, and people surviving really deadly things like looney tunes. Even though you sliced the little assassin up with your sword he's just "beaten up".
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:38:17 7b6084 No. 3636
So let me just spitball this to sort of give myself an idea of what monsters could even be in a CYOA like this. Let me know what you think>Each minion group has a certain set of loot items for beating them. The decision of what minion to choose comes from how well these drops work with your rout. Maybe something that negates a negative effect of a princess. Something not as crucial as dowery or lust items. Just little bonuses >Minions have the same stats stats as knights, so picking a minion with much higher stats than your chosen knight can be risky, but rewarding >Although they can drop specific weapons that increase a knights effectiveness in some way as long as it's the same weapon type as their default.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 20:12:14 5f22de No. 3641
>>3636 >Each generation, choose a set of minions So-so on such limits.
Like I would like real variety in the enemies in each generation and thematic enemies suiting each princess is a lot better. It makes things less predictable. This is especially crucial in a CYOA where Tomb of Horrors stuff and dickish gimmick enemies are a staple. The latter becomes a lot less effective if you keep facing the same types for the entire generation.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 21:56:51 7b6084 No. 3653
I thought this was a cute idea so i made a thing for it.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 22:30:19 b32513 No. 3655
>>3653 How about some sort of bird enemy from this kingdom, that drops a feather duster?
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 22:33:38 5f22de No. 3656
>>3655 Based on this?
>>300
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 22:37:24 b32513 No. 3657
>>3656 I wasn't sure if you were doing girl enemies or 100% monster enemies
Like the one above is slime balls
Either way is fine with me
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 22:40:32 5f22de No. 3658
>>3657 Not the artist. Just wondering if that's what you imagined. I kind of want to see her made as an enemy but a more SFW version so it can be posted on places like 4chan.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:10:41 7b6084 No. 3683
>>3655 >>3656 I prefer monsters over sexy so i'll probably make a more "dungeon fodder" type variant of this.
Mean time, here's three versions i couldn't decide on. Which one's best?
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:20:01 b32513 No. 3685
>>3683 Yeah, I figured these would be monsters
Of those three I like the right one
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:32:52 f7199a No. 3686
>>3683 middle.
Still think we should have the monsters be set to be 'opposite' the princesses. Basically brought in to contain the princesses.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:50:48 7b6084 No. 3688
>>3683 Okay wow so you ever get so distracted trying to make someone's boobs look good enough that you forget to give her fucking arms?
I mean less you like the Armless thing whatever, we're all friends here, i don't judge.
>>3685 Same. Don't know how i feel about french maid enemies, but i wanted to see what i could do with the whole duster thing. Thematically appropriate and junk. I'll draw a more raptor looking cockatrice tomorrow. Not that that means someone out there still won't want to stick their dick in it.
>>3686 That was an idea i had. Flightless bird people opposed to the harpy, etc.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:55:04 b32513 No. 3689
>>3688 If we end up with more of these half-way between girl-monsters, I can always make them midbosses or something, it's all good.
Excellent.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:05:39 251372 No. 3690
>>3688 >Okay wow so you ever get so distracted trying to make someone's boobs look good enough that you forget to give her fucking arms? This is my new favorite towergirls post.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:08:01 5f22de No. 3691
>>2835 What if elite versions based on chess pieces?
That would obviously be the pawn.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:22:24 4bea20 No. 3692
>>3688 Fuck the princesses I wanna rescue this babe
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:34:42 251372 No. 3693
>>3692 >Fuck the princesses That's the plan.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:51:42 4bea20 No. 3694
>>3688 >>3692 Also I've got some monster ideas since I love monsters (in more than one way nudge nud-):
A mimic! Who doesn't love these guys?
A man eating plant.
Reptile men! Maybe Croc people? Snakes?
Goblin thieves! They're big dicks.
Orc savages.
Leech people. They'll suck ya.
Skeletons. Skeletons with music instruments.
Satyr/Faun men. Drunken asses.
Beetle men beetle men. Does whatever a beetlemen do.
ok I gotta stop my head is full of too much idea nutrient
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 06:57:24 5f22de No. 3695
>>3694 >Reptile men! Maybe Croc people? Snakes? Lizardmen. They lead bands of vicious kobolds that can be a pain in the ass in large groups. If you take out their leader or any tough enemy acting as their figurehead they are prone to panic.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 08:44:52 f7199a No. 3697
>>3688 oh that works then! Another harpy princess one should be something involving shackles?
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 18:09:31 7b6084 No. 3729
>>3688 Done. Plus some alternate colors because deciding on color schemes SUCKS.
Also as a bonus i cleaned up the girl version a little. Also lewd just because. I don't plan on doing more like that though.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 18:17:34 4bea20 No. 3731
>>3729 So since these guys have a love stat, I guess you can fight them by befriending them if someone would want instead? Also what do you think of those ideas?
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 18:25:44 7b6084 No. 3733
>>3731 Oh i assumed that was just health. Though i guess having a love stat would be appropriate. Considering the setting is based on romantically conquering every creature, fetish, and archetype possible, "I roll to seduce the hoard of spiders" should always be an option.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 18:39:07 251372 No. 3735
>>3733 Well, yeah. Acquiring an enormous, throbbing demonic hypnotic horsecock that spurts massive fountains of addictive, thick, choking super-virile cum is super easy to do by the end of gen 2.
Unyin 04/10/15 (Fri) 18:56:30 d40402 No. 3737
>>3729 These look fantastic. I think a flat color scheme works out well for these designs. I like the upper right cockatrice.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 19:13:13 b32513 No. 3738
>>3729 god damn, those look good
>>3731 it's health
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 19:26:49 f7199a No. 3741
>>3653 second loot should be "little slime bro" which is a pet.
SmaggTheSmug 04/10/15 (Fri) 21:41:49 5cd1e0 No. 3772
Here's something I suggested in another thread as a random monster.>fight, evade or seduce >good shot with bow >might get clingy and start following the party >smells *really* bad
Unyin 04/10/15 (Fri) 21:57:04 d40402 No. 3779
>>3772 Very cute. Would she be a random encounter on the roads or is she partial to one princess?
SmaggTheSmug 04/10/15 (Fri) 22:35:02 5cd1e0 No. 3788
>>3779 A road encounter, obviously. She lived innawoods for years, hence the loneliness and bad hygiene.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 23:07:24 5f22de No. 3791
>>3772 I like it. I'm thinking she becomes a scantily clothed maid if you bring her home. Brownie reference.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 23:12:49 4bea20 No. 3794
>>3733 It should, yeah. People keep forgetting this is based off of a lewd CYOA. Seems like that part's getting swept under the rug for some reason. I guess the heart can double as health if intent to kill or love if you're intent is to befriend. I mean, who wouldn't want a slime gang as a partner/fuckbuddy?
Unyin 04/10/15 (Fri) 23:42:31 d40402 No. 3804
>>3624 >>3628 Pengrunts.
Pointy Penguin
+Tank-ey, knows the precise moment to attack.
+Terrifying visage painted onto soft belly.
-Soft belly.
-Not quite as terrifying as he seems; actually quite easily-spooked.
Steps slowly but strafes swiftly to prod at foes with his ice-shard shortspear behind a wooden parma.
Feisty Penguin
+Fearless and unrelentless in battle.
+Fairly beefy and can deliver blows in rapid succession.
-Easily-exhausted.
-Dim-witted.
-Little means of defense.
Charges ahead without hesitation delivering a flurry of cuts with hooked ice kukris.
Sneaky Penguin
+Adapts well to shadows and small spaces.
+Able to deal massive damage in hit-and-run stealth tactics.
+Adorable, thus negates suspicion and invokes feelings of crushing guilt upon defeat.
-Is but a wee child.
-Very low defense.
Creeps in the shadows of caverns and glacial cracks, itching to fatally strike with icicle stilettos.
Drops:
Frosty Berry (25%)
"A delicious citric berry favored by the wind-shorn glacier penguins for its rejuvenating properties."
Good Luck Pebble (65%)
"A highly unique pebble cherished as an engagement gift between penguins. For the conscripted, however, it now serves as a symbol of good fortune and hope. Smash it to absorb its magic essences."
Walrus Tusk (10%)
"An ivory walrus tusk occasionally carried by penguins with a fondness for alchemical pursuits. Perhaps they're on to something, here."
"For centuries, unbeknownst to the rest of the world, penguin society flourished in its barbarism behind the veil of blizzards and steep glacial crags. As a testament to their unbreakable will and superiority, the bold club of penguins has taken a princess hostage and will prove their might in her defense."
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 04:01:52 f7199a No. 3877
>>3804 Which princess are they guarding?
Succubus Princess? Cause of the cold?
Sorry, just asking cause really interested in keeping up the theme of monsters are there because the princesses detest them. Princesses are often power houses, whatever is guarding them needs to be something they detest so they won't even go near them.
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 04:10:19 5f22de No. 3881
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 05:13:41 251372 No. 3898
>>3804 >Born to Krill Oh lawd.
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 06:14:40 f7199a No. 3920
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 12:36:57 5f22de No. 3967
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>3804 Great work Unyin! They're adorable and (sort of) menacing. Perfect enemies.
If you're still in the mood for winter stuff. How about the "Snow Golem" aka a Snow Man.
An artic fox and trapper. Artic fox is kind of like Sneaky Penguin however his gimmick is taking your things and generally harassing you while running very fast. The trapper owns the fox so if the fox is nearby it's an indication that there is also a few beartrap hazards and the trapper himself hidden somewhere. Could be a small guy in furs and a hood that even Kenny would think is too tight.
If you feel like moving on I was thinking a good opponent to Insect Princess would be wasps. Also a social bug but are predatory and it kind of adds irony to her alternative costume. Also fungus stuff like cordyceps. Another thing ants dislike.
Or Fiery things, because of the past-time of burning ants to death. Sometimes with a magnifying glass other times with fuel and torches.
Unyin 04/11/15 (Sat) 16:29:50 d40402 No. 3981
>>3967 Thanks! The fox/trapper idea sounds good, I'll give it a try after the snow golem.
You've got me thinking about Insect Princess, though. Do we have a mushroom princess yet? I like to imagine cordycep fungus warriors were sent in to re-take their princess, and you find them in the heat of battle against the wasps. That'd mean fighting two completely different kinds of enemies.
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 16:50:46 5f22de No. 3985
>>3981 Not necessarily, the princesses are also separated by Generation so keep that in mind. Here's the charts for reference.
That doesn't mean your idea is ruled out completely.
They could be secondary (not necessarily second class though) races living in a kingdom. Possibly make up a good amount of its fighting force.
Here's some candidates.
Slime Princess's hivemind colony could have powerful fungus living there and with the addition of life pearls some come to life but end up being a race of their own.
Drider Princess is said to come from a kingdom full of rejected and horrifying beings, but it doesn't say they're all spiders. They probably live where fungus would be plentiful. Moist, humid, dark.
In fact, you could associate them with Dwarves who domesticate and use them for labour and cheap cannon fodder.
Unyin 04/11/15 (Sat) 17:57:47 d40402 No. 3992
>>3985 Good thing to keep in mind, thanks. That helps narrow down the possibilities for connections between kingdoms.
I'm having trouble imagining how the Dwarves would have beef with Long Hive Kingdom, though. Maybe they've taken issue with ant tunnels in their territory? Dwarves like to dig tunnels, don't they?
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 18:12:23 5f22de No. 3993
>>3992 Of course, and one of their major flaws is being greedy and lawful-inflexible. In fact, I'd argue they'd end up having the most beef with them if they interfered with each other's digging.
Unyin 04/11/15 (Sat) 18:26:28 d40402 No. 3996
>>3993 Makes sense to me. So let me make sure all the ducks are in a row.
Insect Princess is captured by Apian warriors or bandits, but territorial disputes lead the Dwarves to send a slave Cordyceps raiding party in an attempt to take the princess in the name of Labyrinthian Mine Kingdom.
You happen upon their skirmish, and ideally cut through both forces to secure Insect Princess yourself. Does that sound like a good setting?
Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 18:40:58 5f22de No. 3997
>>3992 Yes. Lots of things you can do with that, and you could even try to get one of these groups on your side.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 00:48:28 183ca1 No. 4010
>>3997 Or at least wear a mushroom on your head to get the cordyceptians to leave you alone. The less intelligent ones, anyway.
Suggesting big flying lens things as more of an environmental hazard for insect princess. Bare stone, so no digging, and strong sunlight, and a bunch of flying lenses that try to set you on fire if you hold still too long.
Unyin 04/12/15 (Sun) 19:42:41 d40402 No. 4125
>>3981 Trapper, Arctic Fox, and Snow Golem.
Perhaps the snow golem is the penguins' attempt to emulate human society, albeit in a more twisted and crude way.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 20:10:05 5f22de No. 4132
>>4125 Woah the golem looks bad ass! I was thinking he'd just be a near literal snowman thing as a joke but that's really cool.
You got the trapper spot on too.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 20:28:24 b0ae13 No. 4133
It's confirmed by Gats that the creatures that worship Ogre princess are small and simple, and in my head canon they look like the Mardu Goblins of the latest MTG block. I'm envisioning an ewok-leia relationship where they constantly pamper and dress her without her really noticing half the time.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 20:42:38 4bea20 No. 4138
>>4133 Do ogres also exist in her Kingdom also? If I'm picking her I'd want a Kingdom of strong ogres, so I dunno if it should be like this.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 20:44:32 f7199a No. 4139
>>4138 no she's just all by herself.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 21:13:08 251372 No. 4146
>>4138 >>4139 Ogre Princess doesn't understand she's a princess. Or what her idol does. Or why Dragon Princess II gave her this tower to hang out in. She's just going along with it because free food.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 21:21:15 4bea20 No. 4149
>>4139 >>4146 Ah yeah, you guys are right. I guess it reaffirms why I'm not a huge fan of the Gen 2 Princesses.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 21:37:05 5f22de No. 4152
>>4149 Eh, it's not all about power or kingdoms. Some people just want a waifu, an adventure, or a story to tell.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 22:00:46 4bea20 No. 4154
>>4152 I know, and I'm one of those people not interesting in having a kingdom. To me it just feels like most of Gen 2 don't feel like actual princesses. Hell, you guys made me just realize Ogre Princess wasn't even a princess of a kingdom of ogres. It's a little jarring.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 22:25:27 5f22de No. 4160
>>4154 It totally wasn't intentional but you could kind of work off that. Like DPII went after groups mostly devoted to the idols rather than extorting the wealth of kingdoms. So she ended up getting mixed groups. I feel Ogre is one of the better ones though because it's a unique scenario (she is in fact a princess of a kingdom but still not your typical race/kingdom combo) and ogres probably aren't the type to have a kingdom anyway.
Gats kind of had his hands tied on the human princesses because those were in the line up and he seemed to want to write them in with High Forest Kingdom rather than give them their own kingdoms.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 16:14:18 415cc0 No. 4231
>>3729 I forget is their a cockatrice princess?
Unyin 04/13/15 (Mon) 19:32:36 d40402 No. 4242
>>4125 Trapper and Arctic Fox.
Trapper Penguin
+Elusive and cunning.
+Vast knowledge of animal traps.
+Commands an unending stream of covetous Arctic foxes who bring him their spoils.
-Fairly weak.
-Little means of self-defense, relies largely on traps to deal damage.
Peppers the perimeter with bear traps and sics Arctic foxes on unwary passerby.
Arctic Fox
+Very speedy.
+Swipes consumables and comes back running for more.
+Cannot be defeated through typical means.
-Incapable of dealing damage.
-Nothing without a master.
Darts back and forth through the wilderness snatching items from travellers as commanded by their master.
Drops:
Any collected goodies (100%) (Trapper only)
"The glacial wastes are home to strange beasts, many of which fall under the control of a penguin whose greed consumed him to the point of exile. A no-man's-land sprawls out to the Northwest of penguin civilization where a constant blizzard chills the soul and numbs the body to the pain of poor judgement."
My tone is all over the place with these descriptions, I've noticed. This one ended up far more serious than the previous few. Also Sai crashed while I was working on the golem so I'll try to get that done soon.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 20:20:56 5f22de No. 4246
>>4242 Nice! I like the flavor text and expansion on Penguin people.
Now I'm picturing an emperor Penguin boss or elite enemy or something.
Unyin 04/13/15 (Mon) 20:40:12 d40402 No. 4250
>>4246 Thanks! I'm glad you like it.
I've been meaning to introduce ideas to the Setting Book thread, but I'm not sure if they'll fit. There seems to be an amount of established lore, but I don't really know where I can go to learn about it all. Hell, I don't even know if fan ideas can be taken as canonical. Is there a wiki?
I know Towergirls is a CYOA game, but I'm looking at it like an action RPG with very simple elements that keep it compatible with a CYOA/D&D perspective. The result is a shameless Dark Souls-esque mindset when I think about how players would navigate each 'gauntlet' and deal with enemies, and that means backing them with a similar kind of vague lore which may or may not fit with what's already established.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 20:57:20 5f22de No. 4253
>>4250 I'm more of a narrative type but it actually leads to similar results because the theme would be very cartoony and it'd have similar Darks Souls-esque mindset in that it's all about screwing over the player in a retro fashion.
There's not much canon beyond the charts. We're just kind of making it up as we go and popular ideas become canon at the moment. 1d4chan has some stuff on towergirls but not on canon or anything like that.
Like the Dragon Princess General thread just decided names for the Dragons and that's kind of how it goes. Even the name Ace for the default knight is more like popular opinion than outright stated.
Unyin 04/13/15 (Mon) 21:06:59 d40402 No. 4256
>>4253 That makes sense. I like the crowdsourced lore idea; it really makes the world feel varied because of all the different sources.
Unyin 04/14/15 (Tue) 18:30:05 d40402 No. 4345
All Kobold Princess gauntlet enemies done.
Anonymous 04/14/15 (Tue) 20:05:32 5f22de No. 4347
>>4345 That's a good line up of opponents. So what do you imagine these items do? Particularly the alchemy ingredients and luck pebbles.
Also are you going to base any of the fungi on the Mushroom Parent?
Unyin 04/15/15 (Wed) 01:05:22 d40402 No. 4378
>>4347 There are three primary resources per 'gauntlet': The HP restoratives- Frosty Berries for instance, the MP restoratives (for any magic-centric companions or knights) like Good-Luck Pebbles, and alchemical ingredients such as Walrus Tusks.
HP and MP restoratives only last while in their respective areas (that way there's little to no clutter in the wagon), but alchemical ingredients do not expire and can be stocked up over the journey. Combining alchemical ingredients in the hub kingdom creates potions with a range of effects from restoring HP to increasing the potency of elemental damages.
Having a wide range of restorative and alchemical items is handy in that it gives players ingredients to hunt for and provides a nice little lore boost when reading their descriptions. This system isn't perfect, but I think it's simple enough to expand upon and tweak without getting too complicated.
I've been thinking about the fungi for a while, and I'm not really sure how to portray them. The mushroom parents would work really well in this case, but I'd like to vary them up quite a bit to differentiate them from their DaS counterparts. A bloated spore-carrier fungi could be interesting as the heavy-hitter.
Anonymous 04/15/15 (Wed) 01:57:14 5f22de No. 4381
>>4378 Well now I feel bad because I'm drawing from more vidya here, but one gimmick that the fungi can focus on is status effects. Grass types (I know fungi aren't exactly plants) in Pokemon have all sorts of access to parasitic (draining moves, and a leeching status effect) and status effect moves (sleep, poison, paralysis, and the dreaded spore which was sleep but the attack never misses). What's an action adventure without annoying weakened states?
Unyin 04/15/15 (Wed) 02:17:22 d40402 No. 4382
>>4381 I can see that working out. I'm imagining certain effects which root you to the ground until you can slash your way out, or certain enemies who explode into a pool of mycelium creep which could leech stats or simply slow movement.
The issue with that is making sure there isn't all too much overlap with inevitable plant enemies.
Anonymous 04/15/15 (Wed) 02:42:15 5f22de No. 4383
>>4382 Well you can always split certain concepts. So parasitic/leeching stuff could be for fungi and the cordyceps hosting thing. Plants could have more diverse status effects and their annoying things are more defensive than aggressive (like thorns). Also I was thinking plants could have dynamic speed. So during the day they're quite fast but at night they're more sluggish.
Unyin 04/15/15 (Wed) 02:45:13 d40402 No. 4384
>>4383 I really like that idea. It'd make sense for leeching to be a fungi thing.
On the topic of the fungi slaves themselves, what kind of weaponry should they be carrying? I was thinking either mining tools or Dwarven gear. That way it could be inferred that they were being supplied by another power.
Anonymous 04/15/15 (Wed) 02:59:53 5f22de No. 4385
>>4384 Probably a mix of the two. Spades and pickaxes, drills if you want to get more unusual for the weakest. Dwarven weapons for stronger ones.
Unyin 04/15/15 (Wed) 03:16:01 d40402 No. 4386
>>4385 I was thinking along those lines. Works for me.
The wasp enemies still need to be figured out, if that's still the plan.
Anonymous 04/15/15 (Wed) 03:28:19 5f22de No. 4389
>>4386 Well that's up to you, but I'd like to see the wasps make an appearance.
They could be the lesser presence. One looks like a yellow jacket and are general cannon fodder. However, they're fast and airborne and that's what makes them stand out (birdlike enemies can focus on swarming while airbone).
The other is elite and larger, based on a different species of wasp. Could use their wings to blow gusts of wind or attempt to grapple you, fly up into the air, and drop you.
And to save space you have something inbetween both groups which is a infected with cordyceps wasp
Unyin 04/15/15 (Wed) 04:04:06 d40402 No. 4391
>>4389 An infected cordyceps wasp sounds really interesting. I'll start working on these tomorrow.
Unyin 04/16/15 (Thu) 18:28:43 d40402 No. 4448
Mushroom people.
Anonymous 04/16/15 (Thu) 21:27:37 5f22de No. 4452
>>4448 Whoa! Those look great. Ram is an interesting variant although it's purpose/role isn't implicit just from looking at it.
Unyin 04/16/15 (Thu) 21:32:16 d40402 No. 4453
>>4452 I feel like a drill-based version would sell it better.
The idea is for the enemy to charge towards the player in an attempt to spear or bludgeon them. A quick sidestep, however, and they'll miss their mark and eventually hit a wall and become stuck temporarily or fall off a cliff to their doom.
It'd be a pretty simple enemy that's easy to defeat, but shouldn't be overlooked because they'll tear you up if you aren't mindful.
Anonymous 04/16/15 (Thu) 21:39:23 5f22de No. 4454
>>4453 Would make any attack they land a guaranteed crit. If we expand mechanics for that it would be even deadlier than extra damage if you're not careful.
Anonymous 04/16/15 (Thu) 22:53:49 52e412 No. 4455
>>4448 There is a concept for a myconid princess here
>>3279
Unyin 04/16/15 (Thu) 22:58:32 d40402 No. 4456
Wracking my brain trying to figure out how to incorporate a drill into a mushroom man. Should the enemy be small or large? Should the drill be hand-held or affixed to its body somehow? What kind of mushroom? Cantharellus and Amanita are already taken.
Anonymous 04/16/15 (Thu) 23:17:28 5f22de No. 4457
>>4456 I like the idea of the drill being bigger than the actual fungusman. It explains them being unwieldy.
Would look up rain forest fungi for inspiration if you want variety.
Anonymous 04/17/15 (Fri) 00:14:37 0b053e No. 4458
>>4456 Your art is hella good. I'm loving the mushroom men.
Oh, and if you decide to make the drill mush big (or want to make any big mush guy), you could always use those big ol' mushroom cluster things for the shape. Could make it a creepy amalgamation of smaller mushes or whatever.
Unyin 04/17/15 (Fri) 00:46:52 d40402 No. 4461
>>4458 Thanks! I was actually thinking of what a boss would look like. I don't want to reveal too much in terms of mechanics just yet, but the conglomeration of mushies would suit it well.
FelineKnave 04/17/15 (Fri) 05:23:58 c92e08 No. 4467
>>4448 >>4456 you ever watch labyrinth or play RE4? Remember that one scene where they're running from the giant drill in the tunnels? Just make the "big huge golem" type enemy a rolling vehicle with a giant drillbit on the front.
oh and I'm contemplating the environment for dog princess and Alabaster Shrub, thinking lots of white flora, and enemies that use strong smells and dog catching equipment (nets, kennels, collars, etc) mainly goblins in gasmasks and khaki uniforms and coveralls with old style spray bottles and such that can be used to poison knights and such as well as animated cages that can walk around and capture people with chains.
oh and contemplating messing with a rough alchemy system for adventures as well as abilities involving tags and cards.
Anonymous 04/17/15 (Fri) 11:21:51 b0ae13 No. 4473
>>4456 Mushroom drillhand with wobbly stripes instead of spots
Anonymous 04/17/15 (Fri) 11:23:03 b0ae13 No. 4474
Unyin 04/17/15 (Fri) 20:34:20 d40402 No. 4489
>>4456 -Mycotic Soldier-
+Fast top-speed.
+Attacks with great force.
+High strength and defense against blunt weapons.
-Slow wind-up on attacks.
-Initially slow speed.
Stumbles about swinging its pickaxe wildly while shrugging off blunt attacks.
Drops: Radiant Lichen (40%), Inert Spore (5%)
"A sturdy worker fungi skilled in the use of various tools.
The mushroom people have always been known for their diligence, but never before for their fervent bloodlust."
-Spordycep-
+Released spores have delayed but dangerous effects.
+Low profile while dormant.
-Cannot move.
-Very low strength.
+Explosive death spreads mycelium creep in a wide radius.
Guards places of interest and paths, releasing parasitic spores when perturbed.
Drops: Inert Spore (30%)
"A small vibrating puffball ready to burst with spores.
Before recorded history, a fungal virus plagued the land, but had since been contained and locked away. Why then would carriers of these heinous spores come about once more?"
Unyin 04/20/15 (Mon) 19:30:32 d40402 No. 4717
>>4489
Slow around here.
-Amanitarms-
+Deals moderate damage.
+Excellent at tracking targets from a distance.
+Fair defense at close-range.
-Low mobility
-Poor defense against cutting attacks.
Moves between vantage points in packs to shower targets with small boulders.
Drops: Veilwart (50%), Radiant Lichen (20%)
"A bulky marksman fungus carrying a large sack of rocks.
For as long as the mushroom people have existed, the striking red cap has been a symbol of strength and peace, and was even revered by budding human colonies. What then could have caused such a fall from grace?"
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 20:34:29 5f22de No. 4724
>>4489
I love the Spordycep design! Especially the face cloud.
Also very cool that as a group they've got a resistance or tolerance blunt weapons. Good thing to take into account
Unyin 04/20/15 (Mon) 21:54:02 d40402 No. 4732
Resources for this gauntlet.
Radiant Lichen
"A leafy substance utilized by the mushroom people for its strengthening symbiosis."
Veilwart
"The remnants of the universal veil which protects certain maturing mushroom people. The veil feeds its host arcane powers, bringing it life, and this small remainder retains its magic essence."
Inert Spore
"A bloated and dead parasitic spore expelled by a single species of fungus. This particular spore is infamous for threatening mass extinction for which the mushroom people were held accountable for.
Though it appears dangerous, the spore is dead and may prove useful in alchemical experimentation."
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 22:56:08 5f22de No. 4735
>>4732
I just want to say I like your HP and MP icons a lot.
I came up with a (really) rough sketch and for enemies of undead or supernatural princesses in general. They're a very fanatical mercenary group of superstitious monster hunters.
They're actually a pretty hostile group in general. Will assume anyone in the area is an ally of the undead princesses. Your Knight can have a similar motif to theirs and it might give you a chance to calm them down but they're still not very trusting. A bit like the Scarlet Crusade to make a Warcraft reference.
A lot of their gimmicks focus on disabling your abilities, resisting magical things in general, and healing. Some minor fire utility too.
This is the grunt equivalent. More elite members are more like "Paladins" or "Vampire Hunters".
Unyin 04/20/15 (Mon) 23:14:24 d40402 No. 4737
>>4735
Ooh, interesting. I imagine the supernatural hunters would step their game up and get more aggressive if they were to see the player use magic abilities.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:07:49 c92e08 No. 4744
>>4717
>>4489
nice stuff so far, can't think of anything relevant to say aside from "good job"
also made an alchemy card, might give making combinations and stuff a shot
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:12:48 d40402 No. 4745
>>4744
Excellent! I'm not too skilled with UI design or anything, so this is a big help.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:24:13 c92e08 No. 4746
>>4745
no problem man, here take this one, it looks more card-y like all the other cards that's been used so far.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:30:09 5f22de No. 4747
>>4737
Yeah, I think they'd have a minor presence with a few exceptions for the most part. However, if you start using magic they become a >lot< more common and harder to deal with.
Here's another group that could bug the undead princesses. A group of researcher necromancers. They want to know what makes princesses like Skeleton and Ghost tick and are also known for doing stupid B-movie horror experiments. Meaning their test subjects often end up killing them and rampaging.
I thought of two gimmicks besides using some undead as minions.
One is that they're potion, item, and poison users.
The other is that they have minor precognitive abilities due to practicing a form of necromancy. As in they're the original kind of necromancer which uses the dead as divination and so they can channel spirits to predict all your moves and avoid them. Kind of hard to do well in any type of game though.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:35:19 c92e08 No. 4748
it occurs to me that we need stat boost icons.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:37:36 5f22de No. 4749
>>4748
Would make them very temporary boosts because getting a stat increase or advantage is worth a lot more in a 1d6 set-up or any game that has a stat maxed out at <10 points.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:43:04 c92e08 No. 4750
>>4749
well the alternative is making the secondary effect some kind armor enchantment or poison attack etc.
I figure alchemy would be reserved for knights with high int, a dowry, or companion anyways.
was thinking stat boosts would come from items made from those things and you'd get accessory slots and a certain amount of customization slots in armor and weapons.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:47:16 5f22de No. 4751
>>4750
>would be reserved for knights with high int, a dowry, or companion anyways.
That makes more sense. I would still cap the amount of times you can boost a stat or something, although you can choose to reset your bonuses for different sets and stuff. Kind of like what Pokemon does for its direct stat boosting.
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 00:53:12 d40402 No. 4753
>>4750
Another alternative is increasing the effectiveness of alchemy in accordance to the intelligence stat.
For a basic example, a low INT knight could create a potion of 10% healing, and a max INT knight could create a potion of 75% healing or something. Of course those aren't hard numbers; I need to sit down and plot out mechanics sometime before Towergirls withers away.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:01:03 c92e08 No. 4755
>>4751
>>4753
could be as simple as giving a knight an "Alchemy and You" Guidebook so he can make alchemical stuff.
Obviously guys like Gonne Knight and Arcane Knight wouldn't need it but it'd be an easy way to let otherwise alchemy incapable knights make stuff.
could also draw up a group of alchemists for hire who act like those merchants in RE4.
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:08:56 d40402 No. 4757
>>4755
My original plan was for there to be a central Inn to act as the hub world. There you'd find an alchemy set, other companions you can't bring around in the cart, rescued knights to swap out with, beds for lewd, etc.
The alchemists-for-hire could be found on the road or in gauntlets for some quick alchemy on the go.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:26:21 c92e08 No. 4761
>>4757
sounds legit, kinda prefer the alchemists for hire but that's just me.
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:38:00 d40402 No. 4765
>>4761
Both ideas could work. Nothing is really set in stone here.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:40:22 c92e08 No. 4766
>>4765
I kinda like the idea that some knights have access to a hub and others wander around and get extra dungeons to plunder depending on their past life and current affiliations.
Dog Knight wants to be a dashing rogue so he might hang out with a band of thieves and gypsies, arcane knight's a wizard so he might know a spell that takes him to some kind of demiplane, Silver Knight's an archtypical paladin so maybe he hangs out a mildly ritzy inn etc etc.
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 01:52:14 c92e08 No. 4768
>>4751
oh right, I quit pokemon awhile back so I dunno much about their stat boosting but the current rule on all boosts is that they're capped at +2 and the negatives are capped at -2 so I'd say a knight gets one or two accessories depending on his outfit and attitude, two "weapon" slots, and one suit of armor so that a maximum of 5 different boosts or abilities. (we can say for instance that you can only have two dowries active at once and they take up your accessory slot) So an item could be made that does a stat boost, or gives a situational modifier, or gets a damage boost etc etc.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 04:52:10 58d7db No. 4782
>>4747
Small, fast, and hoppy dudes in black robes that keep tossing slow/atkdown/fear shenanigans at you and jumping around background shenanigans that are giantass bone/zombie monster things. Have miniboss-level dudes strapped to the floor/walls/tables and your attacks can accidentally (or intentionally) release them, and they go after the both of you indiscriminately. Have smaller, non miniboss versions wandering around, too.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 05:20:28 a83a12 No. 4783
my Sub-par editing skills strike again! Feel like we need more humanoid enemies/bosses?
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 07:08:42 c92e08 No. 4791
>>4783
Looks pretty nice actually.
and yeah we could use some that maybe correspond to the various races we see in knights as well as useful goon races. Goblins for instance could be widespread monsters for hire, orcs would be a good warrior race that could serve as elite mooks, dog kemonomimi would make for good defensive warriors, cats would probably be a combination of ninja and samurai. Elves could cover some mystical stuff, dwarves would probably have bizarre steamwork gadgets while mice would focus more on the clockwork side of things.
I'm thinking some kind of Shogun figure or Demonic Roman Legionnaire.
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 15:34:08 d40402 No. 4802
What do we need icons for?
[√] HP
[ ] Strength
[ ] Mobility
[ ] Lust (?)
[ ] Intelligence
Potentially also attack types and elements such as lightning and fire.
Any others?
FelineKnave 04/21/15 (Tue) 18:58:37 c92e08 No. 4809
>>4802
maybe replace flat out stat boosts with a simple attack/defence boost when it comes to secondary effects.
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 19:08:41 d40402 No. 4811
>>4809
It makes sense to keep it simple. Noted.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 22:14:31 a83a12 No. 4816
>>4783
>>4791
Wanted to try for a helmed/mask look, I cant shade for shit but I think I got the position somewhat right. pickle for ya, if ya get the reference
Unyin 04/21/15 (Tue) 23:43:55 d40402 No. 4819
>>4816
Very nice. I like the stechhelm design.
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 01:20:13 d40402 No. 4821
Eat shit, artist's block; I've found a design I like.
-Borasola-
+Damage scales with distance traveled.
+Very high speed and far target acquisition.
+Will travel unlimited distances until it reaches a target
-or a cliff's edge.
-Low HP.
-
Glides in a straight line towards targets with its massive drill.
Drops: Radiant Lichen (40%)
"A short-tempered fungus that propels itself towards the enemy with an enormous drill.
The mushroom people are renowned for their primitive lifestyle, but this mushroom seems inexplicably adapted to this new breed of machine."
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 02:04:51 5f22de No. 4823
>>4821
Now I want to see an alt version with TTGL glasses.
Great work as usual. I wonder if you can bait this enemy into opening up passages or breaking barriers for you.
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 02:14:17 d40402 No. 4824
>>4823
That's an awesome idea, I'm glad you brought that up. Maybe you'd be able to bait one into breaking down a wall to a secret area or shortcut.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 02:16:37 251372 No. 4825
File: 1429668997652.png (Spoiler Image, 99.69 KB, 489x503, 489:503, DrillPrincess.png )
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 03:39:24 c92e08 No. 4826
>>4821
huh, makes me think there should be a fungus knight/warlord with time machine gear in that area as a boss or something, reminds me of frankenstien's army.
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 06:10:46 d40402 No. 4830
>>4826
While time-traveling baddies aren't entirely out of the question (in fact I'd be surprised if we don't end up seeing some in time), the explanation goes like this:
The Dwarves have enslaved the mushroom people and are forcing them to carve out tunnels for them. Insect Princess has been captured by a band of hardy wasps during a territorial dispute between the Dwarven and Insect kingdoms over tunneling rights, and militarized mushroom people are conscripted to retrieve Insect Princess to use as leverage in negotiations.
The player would enter the gauntlet right in the middle of a siege in this conflict. As wasp battlements struggle to hold back the mycotic horde, the player cuts through both forces to retrieve Insect Princess against all odds.
Amidst the turmoil, the Dwarven commanders call for cordyceps spores to be released to crush both the wasp forces and the player knight, a move that proves highly controversial, and ideally ineffective.
I've got one more idea for a mushroom enemy, then I move on to wasps. Then we'll talk a very special Frankenstein.
FelineKnave 04/22/15 (Wed) 06:19:13 c92e08 No. 4832
>>4830
sounds legit, and the movie I mentioned when I forgot my name is pretty good horror, has Dr. Frankenstien's grandson working for the nazis making zombie cyborgs.
I do look forward to seeing the fungal corrupted insects, would be nice to see a whole series of those.
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 06:32:21 d40402 No. 4833
>>4832
I'm taking a look at the US cover, and it looks pretty interesting. I just might have to give it a look if not just for inspiration. I'm a sucker for creature design like this.
FelineKnave 04/22/15 (Wed) 07:21:02 c92e08 No. 4836
>>4833
keep in mind the movie is very much a horror movie and takes place during WW2 so it features a lot of unpleasant content if only via implication. That said it has, bar none, some of the most impressive creature design ever featured in a film.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 13:51:31 21bc52 No. 4843
>>4747
I was thinking it would be cool if a necromancer looked like a pretty standard creepy wizard but had control of terrifying body horror creatures like the flesh atronachs
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Gatekeeper
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 20:22:57 d40402 No. 4852
I'd been putting off the wasps because I was afraid they would give me trouble, but they're surprisingly fun to draw.
I'm all for the sexualization of enemies, but I want to keep a good balance of semi-seriousness and lewdness.
wait can wasps be drones too and thus mostly males or is that only honey bees or is it the other way around i need a bee keeper help
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 20:40:25 5f22de No. 4853
>>4852
I was a hobbyist beekeeper at some point although that doesn't mean I know much about wasps. Wasp is a pretty broad category, but if we're talking about Yellow Jackets I know they have drones. I don't know if they differ from honey bee drones though. Honey Bee drones are big (wide anyway), loud (wings make a lot of noise) and complete pushovers (no stinger, are basically pampered pets until winter when they serve no purpose and are kicked out to die)
Unyin 04/22/15 (Wed) 21:07:18 d40402 No. 4854
>>4853
It seems like it'd make more sense for them to be yellow jackets. Males would be drones, the nurses, and the females can be the warriors. Does that work out?
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 21:16:25 5f22de No. 4856
>>4854
That's the most well known kind of wasp so I say go for it. They look really good so far by the way.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 22:18:06 852700 No. 4857
>>4852
>Vespinurse
"This may sting a bit" must be a battle quote.
FelineKnave 04/22/15 (Wed) 23:17:22 c92e08 No. 4861
>>4853
>>4852
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jacket#Life_cycle_and_habits
wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt but looks legit enough. Queens go out, lay eggs, make a nest, tend to the first generation of workers and then let the first generation tend to the next. Males are born, live long enough to mate with the queen and her offspring and then die shortly thereafter due to a quirk in their biology. After winter the old nest is abandoned and the cycle repeats.
usual sterile females, queens, and disposable males.
Unyin 04/23/15 (Thu) 01:02:16 d40402 No. 4865
>>4856
Many thanks, I'm glad you like them.
>>4861
Good info. I think I'm going to leave the Vespinurse lash-less and with Hartman hips, so he/she will be gender-ambiguous.
>>4857
That's perfect.
FelineKnave 04/23/15 (Thu) 01:32:46 c92e08 No. 4866
>>4865
nifty, works for me.
also will you consider doing a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_giant_hornet as an enemy? These things kill like 30 people a year in japan and can destroy European honeybee nests with impunity. They chop up insects and bring the choice bits back to the hive, imagine facing down a giant wasp the size of a gunship with jaws that can slice through steel, oh, and it's infected with poisonus fungal parasites that are using it to propagate their species.
Unyin 04/23/15 (Thu) 18:51:46 d40402 No. 4884
Got the ugly one out of the way first.
-Dire Wasp-
+Very high movement and attack speed.
+Can fly and dodge many ranged attacks.
+Decent strength.
-Easily and permanently grounded by blunt weapons.
-Low HP.
Darts madly through the air, stopping only to punch holes in a foe with its stinger spear.
Drops:
Inert Spore (5%) (Insect Princess gauntlet only)
Glistening Comb (30%) (TBD gauntlet)
"An enraged apian warrior which commands the skies surrounding the Tremorous Hive.
These sting-happy soldiers are clearly commanded by someone or something, but nary a soul has been able to penetrate the Tremorous Hive to find out exactly what it is."
>>4866
My dad brought one of those suckers home from Japan in a Ziploc bag, dead. Blew my mind how huge they got. But yeah, my plan is for the boss of this gauntlet to be a Cordyceps-infected giant wasp. I've got a design on paper, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'll post it later on today.
Anonymous 04/24/15 (Fri) 05:04:50 5f22de No. 4894
>>4884
Looks good, and a very annoying enemy to deal with. I like it.
I compiled a few more enemy ideas I had into a list. Just bouncing them off the thread to see if any stick.
General mooks (stronger members of this group are much more prevalent in the Dragon's Lair)
Lesser dragonkin or other reptile types similar to Kremlings and kobolds
Mermaid Princess
Some water enemies (sharks delinquent types?) and some desert themed enemies.
Water areas are to guard her but the very dry areas are supposed to deter rescue.
Slime Princess
Fire themed enemies and rogue slimes
Harpy Princess
Dire Bat riders
Wind Elementals (Electricity?)
Beast Princesses in general
Dragon Princess's kitchen staff/cooks
Boy Princess
No idea for mooks yet.
However I have an idea for him
A pair of boss nemeses. You possibly encounter them post-rescue if his secret is out or as the 'true' bosses after fighting a decoy boss.
Mr. Venus and Mrs. Mars
A pair of classy and flamboyant assassins, one is a very convincing trap and the other is a very convincing reverse trap. They're out to eliminate Boy Princess on some mystery villain's orders.
Anonymous 04/24/15 (Fri) 06:22:37 5f22de No. 4895
Also, WIP for a beastmaster enemy. Probably going to be mini-boss tier. The beastmaster wields a whip and is dodgy, but her deadliest gimmick is giving strong buffs to beast enemies. She always has at least 3 beasts with her.
Unyin 04/24/15 (Fri) 15:52:03 d40402 No. 4899
>>4894
All of these are great, especially Mr. Venus and Mrs. Mars.
Boy Princess belongs to Endless Fields, right? Maybe he's been kidnapped by noblemen, and Mr. Venus and Mrs. Mars are the classy assassins fatcats hired to snatch him.
Unyin 04/24/15 (Fri) 18:47:32 d40402 No. 4906
-Vespinurse-
+Can revive fallen dire wasps.
+Hartman hips.
+Moderate mobility.
-Low HP
-No means of attack.
Courageously scours the battlefield to bring the fallen to their feet.
Drops:
Glistening Comb (25%) (TBD Gauntlet)
Medicinal Jelly (10%) (TBD Gauntlet)
"A dainty wasp of timid heart but strong will who desires only to revive the dead.
The Vespinurse is frail but fearless; after all, what is death to those who negate it?"
Unyin 04/24/15 (Fri) 20:03:13 d40402 No. 4908
Drew up an idea for what will serve as this gauntlet's boss. Working names include "The Consumed," "Stalking Husk," and "Boss."
The idea is that this is the end-result of Cordyceps infection, albeit from rapid onset. You have a towering mass of exoskeleton and fungus which attacks primarily with a clubbed hand but may disperse parasitic spores as well.
There could be groups of apian and fungi warriors attacking the boss to begin with, but they would be quickly dispatched by it.
Let me know if there are any issues with this design. I drew it before I actually looked at Gats' bee skin of Insect Princess, so I wasn't really sure of where to take it. This is a boss, so it can go through more variations if it has to.
I wonder if Gats still lurks here. Haven't seen much from him.
Anonymous 04/24/15 (Fri) 21:08:51 5f22de No. 4911
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4908
He does, though he's preoccupied trying to come up with these lore cards for the kingdoms.
I like this design. Though I'm thinking it should start out just a bit less grotesque. The reason? So as you fight it the more damage you do the more horrendous
Like this the guy in video related. Although I know it's thinking a bit too far ahead for this medium and game.
One thing I'd try is maybe making it hover and having it legs a bit shriveled. So you've got to be a bit more clever than just targeting his feet.
>>4899
That's another possible background they could follow. They're definitely supposed to contrast Boy Princess's
Could you try art for them if that wouldn't be too much trouble? I'm not sure if I can do them justice.
Anonymous 04/24/15 (Fri) 21:12:06 5f22de No. 4912
>>4911
Oh, and almost forgot. I was thinking that breaking through the fungus would be a mixed bag. As you did damage but it releases spores.
FelineKnave 04/25/15 (Sat) 20:16:09 c92e08 No. 4941
>>4908
It's okay but I think the jaws should be more prominent and snippy, maybe put the head on the end of an enormous psuedo pod ala RE4, you remember the one boss with the snappy head tentacle? Like that but on a lumbering giant.
Unyin 04/27/15 (Mon) 15:51:03 d40402 No. 4982
>>4978
>>4977
>>4976
>>4974
>>4973
>>4972
>>4970
>>4969
Oh my.
>>4911
>>4912
>>4941
Good ideas. I've always liked the idea of battle damage throughout boss fights. I think I can incorporate multiple forms into this fight; fungi are pretty dynamic, especially the parasitic kinds. If anybody has ideas for other forms I already have:
-Lumbering giant
-Lumpy mass of necrotic flesh and Cordyceps tentacles
FelineKnave 04/28/15 (Tue) 13:11:48 c92e08 No. 4987
>>4982
could have a relatively normal giant wasp form that can buzz around at first, then he loses his wings and some chitin and starts sprouting psuedopods, eventually loses all the chitin and just becomes this lumbering mass of mutant flesh
Unyin 04/28/15 (Tue) 15:34:15 b6df76 No. 4988
>>4987
Sounds pretty cool, and would require the player to mix up his/her strategies.
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 20:32:38 5f22de No. 5034
>>4987
I think that works.
Goes from flying to lumbering giant to mass of flesh.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 02:28:58 f7199a No. 5061
>>4906
>>4884
guarding Insect Princess? Rebels who seek to overthrow the Ant's rule of the insect kingdom?
Unyin 05/03/15 (Sun) 05:56:37 b6df76 No. 5062
>>5061
A band of devious wasps who have a bone to pick with the ant people to whom Insect Princess belongs.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 09:28:03 0afb6d No. 5064
I made this as a test. Is there anything else that should go on the enemy sheet except the strenghts/weaknesses, basic description and the loot? The sheet seems fairly empty with just those, but then again, regular enemies should probably be kept simple.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 10:32:03 0afb6d No. 5065
>>5064
Here's a second one with a more advanced enemy. Should the item descriptions go on the enemy sheet, or do we have separate ones for those?
Unyin 05/03/15 (Sun) 15:07:32 b6df76 No. 5066
>>5064
>>5065
Oh hey, I recognize you from /tg/. I like these enemies, they're pretty mysterious. Aside from the stats you have listed, maybe list appropriate damage types. There are three: piercing, slashing, and blunt. It'd also be good to list their damage type weakness.
I think item descriptions would have their own sheet.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 17:34:57 0afb6d No. 5067
>>5066
Now in a full set. These things might not be the most useful since they're all minions of one of the boss princesses in the fanmade expansion chart, but I did em to get some idea what the completed enemy sheet would look like (seems we don't really have many completed sheets). You could pretty easily use them as generic abomination-type enemies after removing a few references to the Dark Horizon Kingdom.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 17:37:35 0afb6d No. 5068
>>5067
In other news, I'm an idiot and posted the wrong versions, Here are the ones that actually ahve their attack type and weakness listed.
Unyin 05/03/15 (Sun) 17:59:09 b6df76 No. 5069
>>5067
>>5068
Looking good! Regardless of how they'll be implemented, it's good to see ideas floating around.
I haven't been working much on my enemies because I'm preoccupied with development of a Towergirls RPG. I'll get around to the boss and its stages in due time.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 19:41:36 0afb6d No. 5071
>>5069
Also did an enemy sheet for the boss of these guys, the Queen of the Dark Horizon (had previously done this as a reward for the expansion chart, and also given her a princess-style sheet). Her horror-booty is too big to fit to the sheet very well, though.
Anonymous 05/07/15 (Thu) 10:06:14 0afb6d No. 5096
I've been trying to think of some mechanics for boss enemies (such as the Dark Queen above, and a few others who have ar ready but no sheets). Maybe bosses could have a somewhat bigger sheet that would have one or two special abilities that would actually have some kind of effects (currently all regular enemies have very abstract abilities represented just by their stats. Like the Stygian Sorcerer's teleporting is represented by him having high speed).
Unyin 05/07/15 (Thu) 15:16:12 aa0127 No. 5098
>>5096
That's what I was thinking. Their basic attacks could be listed in a sentence, but their more devastating moves could get a bit more attention.
Anonymous 05/07/15 (Thu) 20:00:44 0afb6d No. 5100
>>5096
>>5098
Here's a boss/rival sheet made on /tg/. It's more fouced on the CYOA mechanic than fighting the boss, though. Also converted the boss enemy I've made to the sheet.
Anonymous 05/07/15 (Thu) 22:24:53 0afb6d No. 5102
>>5100
Here's another one.
Unyin 05/12/15 (Tue) 18:32:45 aa0127 No. 5149
Skeletal heavy-hitter, the Necropile. It's borne of ethereal yearning for the unification of prisoners held in tower dungeons.
Anonymous 05/25/15 (Mon) 09:00:22 0afb6d No. 5226
Redid the Stygian enemies to match the updated artwork for their boss.
Anonymous 05/27/15 (Wed) 21:20:41 a962e5 No. 5246
>>5149
>>5226
Shit guys, nice.
Anonymous 05/31/15 (Sun) 05:38:00 574819 No. 5261
Sphynx princess enemies should be greek monster jocks lead by a greek sphynx cheer captain.
Anonymous 05/31/15 (Sun) 05:52:52 574819 No. 5262
>>5261
also list I've bashed together real quick for ideas for the full list of enemies for gen 1.
Kobold Princess: Penguines with ice magic who want her kingdom's precious gems.
Human Princess: Something to do with scales and mirrors? Magic Mirrors?
Insect Princess: Wasps from a rival insect Dynasty?
Skeleton Princess: ???
Slime Princess: Dirty things? Grime Golems?
Mermaid Princess: ???
Knight Princess: Draconic Fanboys
Harpy Princess: Cat Theives?
Boy Princess: Bandits?
Orc Princess: Refined Aristocrats?
Dwarf Princess: Delinquint Clothing Melting Slimes
Dwarf Princess II: Goblin Barbers?
Amazon Princess: Men's Rights Activists? Players? Pickup Artists?
Ghost Princess: ???
Golem Princess: Rust Monsters?
Succubus Princess: Prudes and Puritans?
Goblin Princess: Socialist Halflings? (or save that for Merchant Princess?) Abolitionists?
Drider Princess: Dark Elves?
Mimic Princess: Panicked and totally crazy people you totally shouldn't be listening to.
Dragon Princess: Red Dragonkin Soldiers
Anonymous 05/31/15 (Sun) 08:18:15 0afb6d No. 5263
>>5262
I still think making separate enemy types for every princess is not a good idea. Assuming we'd follow the pattern of three enemies for every type (weak enemy, strong enemy and elite/miniboss enemy), that would mean 60 enemies for gen 1 alone. Considering that there isn't that much interest in making enemies, it would take forever to make ones for every princess.
Since the princesses are supposed to be captured by the Dragon Princesses, I'd suggest making the DPs' minions the "generic" enemy type which appears in most if not all towers. Red/blue/green dragonspawn soldiers, or something. Additionally there could be some specific enemy types that would appear in certain towers, such as aquatic enemies in Fish Princess's tower and undead enemies in the undead princesses' towers.
Anonymous 05/31/15 (Sun) 08:44:40 574819 No. 5265
>>5263
guess so, still think it'd be a cool goal to shoot for.
Fuller list:
Kobold Princess: Penguines with ice magic who want her kingdom's precious gems.
Human Princess: Something to do with scales and mirrors? Magic Mirrors?
Insect Princess: Wasps from a rival insect Dynasty? Pesticidal fungi around the castle.
Skeleton Princess: Holy Priests
Slime Princess: Fungus People
Mermaid Princess: Fishermen and Whalers? Predatory Fishpeople?
Knight Princess: Draconic Fanboys
Harpy Princess: Cat Theives?
Boy Princess: Bandits?
Orc Princess: Refined Aristocrats?
Dwarf Princess: Delinquint Clothing Melting Slimes
Dwarf Princess II: Goblin Barbers?
Amazon Princess: Men's Rights Activists? Players? Pickup Artists?
Ghost Princess: Exorcists?
Golem Princess: Rust Monsters?
Succubus Princess: jilted paladin boyfriends
Goblin Princess: Prudes and Puritans? Socialist Halflings? (or save that for Merchant Princess?) Abolitionists?
Drider Princess: Dark Elves?
Mimic Princess: Panicked and totally crazy people you totally shouldn't be listening to.
Dragon Princess: Red Dragonkin Soldiers
Nicotine Knight 06/07/15 (Sun) 22:19:12 2d6bf6 No. 5426
>>5422
Really, really like the hardtack and mourning cap redraws. Also, I thoroughly agree with you on Dark Souls. It's hardly hard, per se; I think that's often overstated by the zealous. I actually find it somewhat relaxing - perhaps it reminds me a little of classic Wizardry/Might and Magic in that regard.
About Bonemeal, since I don't think you got feedback there; IRL, it is one of the BEST sources of phosphates. One of the reasons that battlefields often become gardens is that bones (human or animal) create rich food for hungry roots.
I'd recommend it's 'default' use being restoring stamina/mana, with alternate uses as an alchemical ingredient for certain Knights/courtiers, and a 'gift' to increase the health, opinion, or lust of certain flora-based Princesses.
As for Mourning Cap, maybe have it's default property be a strong poison/antipoison property that can be refined via alchemy? Useful if one wants to get close and personal with more toxic acquaintances…
>>5424
The Inert Spore… Yeah, I'm thinking there are all sorts of ominously bad uses for this. Mimic Princess approves. Veilwart makes me think immediately of magic resistance/invisibility piercing powers, perhaps the ability to see magically 'cloaked' individuals.
Best looking is the lichen redesign, however. It looks like something I'd harvest, 10/10.
Are you open to suggestions?
Unyin 06/07/15 (Sun) 22:30:19 aa0127 No. 5428
>>5426
All good ideas. I'll pass them along to the team. I'm open to suggestions, sure.
Nicotine Knight 06/07/15 (Sun) 23:21:40 2d6bf6 No. 5432
>>5428
Much obliged - I hope it helps, and if something doesn't work or needs tweaking, know I do not mind.
As for suggestions, since the style of drops seems very dark souls, different qualities of items seem appropriate; I'm thinking specifically of the moss dropped by treefolk in the Darkroot Garden.
Someone earlier here mentioned that Tower Guardian golems could be introduced based on a chess motif; I figure that could be an enemy common to most areas, and I remember seeing something similar done in a roguelike; I rather liked it.
Pawns dropping near-useless stone weapons/armour, Knights dropping stat-affecting alchemical items, Bishops dropping on-use magical components, Queens dropping high-end components for rare equipment resistant to or damaging to spawn of the towers, and Kings, perhaps, being very rare and dropping high-value components/gears OR very rare items used for the most risky and useful of ceremonies.
As the game goes on, perhaps the undead soldiers and arbalists are supplemented by Long-Dead Knights and Skeletal Apothecaries. Graven Nobles could serve as mini-boss style leaders of the pack, perhaps.
Similarly, I think the enemies for the 'Human' Gauntlet could be composed of Crown Rebels and the like; Highwaymen Apocalyptic Cultists, Scheming Barons, and Fallen Heroes at the top.
I have loads of ideas re: items and the like, but not only do I not want to overload with my own suggestions, I imagine this is a good starting place for them, as they are.
I'll finish with perhaps doing something different for the Orc Gauntlet; I feel that maybe *highly settled* Orcs are the enemies there, clad in exceptionally strong gear, wielding very formulaic book magic, etc. Keeps things interesting!
Anonymous 06/10/15 (Wed) 08:21:16 574819 No. 5483
>>5432
idea we're working with for Human Princess foes are a magic mirror empowered by some sort of evil sorceress (Human Princess is super conscious about her weight after all)
Unyin 06/11/15 (Thu) 04:39:17 aa0127 No. 5522
>>3483
The Boneheads need redesigns. Here's the foot-soldier.
Nicotine Knight 06/11/15 (Thu) 08:33:15 2d6bf6 No. 5529
>>5483
Ah, that sounds excellent. Perhaps a mixture of phantasms (alternating between twisted & sexy?) that claw their way out of strategically placed enemy-spawning mirrors?
>>5522
Very cute fella, though I most like his slightly funny, slightly ominous bow-kneed stance. It adds a lot of character. (And that socket-flame colour is a nice touch, too.)
Jake 07/03/15 (Fri) 22:31:09 c6d805 No. 5902
Here's an idea: a soda-themed alchemist who supplies cola, a mysterious, extremely limited and highly addictive substance which only he knows how to synthesize, to the world. He's not immediately aggressive, unless the player somehow threatens his empire (E.G. destroying/conquering a kingdom that provides him resources or buys a lot of soda) in which case he will send assassins—not necessarily the ones pictured—on the player.
Each different flavor of his cola gives different effects. For example root beer induces growth, lemon-lime grants temporary inhuman agility, blue rasberry induces an intense spiritual high, club soda just kills you, cream soda is believed to use an extreme concentrated extract of royal jelly etc.
Thoughts?
Jake 07/03/15 (Fri) 22:43:08 c6d805 No. 5903
>>5902
>root beer induces growth
excuse me, I meant to say it induces age, while orange soda grants youth.
Bloodshot Eye 07/04/15 (Sat) 01:04:24 847b05 No. 5905
>>5903
>orange soda
Who loves orange soda? I love orange soda! :3
Nicotine Knight 07/04/15 (Sat) 12:50:00 2d6bf6 No. 5915
>>5902
Those eyebrows are oddly compelling - I literally cannot look away. Moving right along - lore-wise, how would you fit such a source of sorcererous soda into the setting?
My immediate thought is - alchemy-as-soda is an interesting twist on the idea of potions as portable magic. It doesn't quite have that middle-fantasy feel, but there's a lot we have that's pushing the boundaries there. So, again - lore-wise, where would you see such an alchemist? What would integrate him into the setting?
Naturally, it'd make sugar a more valuable resource; perhaps valuable 'grades' of sugar, or simply the different refined varieties, could be a random drop or harvestable in various areas? More after I've had a good think on the matter, but does the image title imply you'd getafix from Carbonix, assuming you didn't aggravate him?
>>5905
Too sweet for my tastes, even if it did end up shaving a few years off, ha!
Unyin 07/04/15 (Sat) 16:20:12 427660 No. 5917
>>5915
Could be an alchemist who was experimenting and accidentally created the first soft drinks. In the process, however, he gave them life. Now he resides in solitude in fear that someone may steal his work, and also because the stuff is addictive, and sharing is dumb.
>>5902
That soda bottle beard just works too well. Those enemies make me think of the Binding of Isaac for some reason, so I like them.
Nicotine Knight 07/04/15 (Sat) 16:46:05 2d6bf6 No. 5919
>>5917
Ah, I knew the design made me think of something pleasant - and there is nothing about that first sentence I don't love. Cranky soda alchemists are, after all, the best kind of soda alchemists. Also raises the question. Was he human once?
Also I somehow missed the soda-beard on first glance. Was distracted by the cap… For a cap.
Jake 07/04/15 (Sat) 18:40:35 c6d805 No. 5923
>>5915
My original idea for his sodas and his business was that he is at first glance nothing more than a shady business mogul, but has deeper aspirations of world domination. His sodas would be represented in the lore as expensive gourmet potions with rare (and sometimes sinister) ingredients, available in high-end potion shops.
He himself would probably reside in an inland walled factory-fortress where his soda is made, surrounded by a village populated by his workers.
In "gameplay" he'd serve several unique purposes. Players could sell ingredients to him for a good amount of gold or potentially steal his recipes to make a profit.
Nicotine Knight 07/06/15 (Mon) 07:24:57 2d6bf6 No. 5937
>>5923
Expensive gourmet potions… Excellent, kind of 'artisan' potions, reminds me of when you'd find a town with gear way above the normal quality, that you wouldn't (normally) have a way of affording until much, much later in the game. Naturally high-wealth kingdoms would have an easier time making use of his services, I'm sure.
Also, I like the fact you included the possibility of horrible amoral folk like myself who might try to, uh, liberate the recipes from this clear sugary-sweet dictator. Yes.
Having had a good think on things, I came up with some other ideas; some related to him and his followers, and another.
Carbonix:
- Are factions a thing? If so, this sounds like a perfect use for one. If faction opinion is high enough for example, the alchemist might set his 'Workshop' up in the player's kingdom. If it's low, price go up for the player and their servants/allies, and the Workshop sends carbonated killers their way.
- If the alchemist is slain, the bulk of his knowledge is lost, but the player can craft the lower-end stuff on their own?
- Things that could raise faction opinion might be giving rare ingredients away for free, and showing you have similar opinions on workers… I'm starting to get a feel of a robber-baron type who is 'generous' as to build a town for his workers, but the town is walled to keep them in, and there are moral considerations as well, of course…
But that's all musing, of course.
Enemy-wise, I realized we don't have a lot of human-types yet. Perhaps a faction of cultists, the 'Tower Builders' or something, who are obsessed with the Towers as a coming of something more..? I'll be able to throw more ideas as we are illuminate to the nature of the true threat - but I can easily see some flocking to the towers as a religious phenomena… Or, cast-offs from their kingdoms sensing blood in the water.
Anonymous 07/25/15 (Sat) 21:00:46 fb5f88 No. 6186
Not sure if anyone still frequents here, but had the idea of the enemies protecting Amazon being Voodoo pygmies.
Unyin 07/26/15 (Sun) 20:40:28 fd375d No. 6193
>>6186
I like the idea of voodoo-themed enemies, could be a lot of fun to design. Makes me think of the blowdart snipers of Blighttown.
Knight of the Balance 07/26/15 (Sun) 21:10:27 194b5f No. 6194
>>6186
>>6193
God I hated those Blowdart Snipers… their poison was ridiculously potent (as poison really SHOULD be), and rarely was it easy to get within reach of them to attack, short of using a bow.
That said, I DO really like the idea of voodoo-themed enemies, pygmies or otherwise. They're rather fitting I'd think for that kinda area.
Anonymous 07/26/15 (Sun) 22:41:27 8fcf19 No. 6195
>>6193
>>6194
Like Diablo 2 Flayers?
Anonymous 07/28/15 (Tue) 23:58:14 fb5f88 No. 6224
Okay, just gonna drop ideas for ironic enemy types as they come to me.
Drider-'Fire'flies
Succubus-Desert bandits
Goblin-Spunky Gnomes
Trap-Manly Stereotypes
No rule against them representing rivalries between kingdoms from other lists, right?
Anonymous 07/30/15 (Thu) 00:42:14 0bd590 No. 6241
>>6224
Hah, I love the idea of a firefly drider. Driderfly? Flyder?
Anonymous 07/31/15 (Fri) 05:49:28 3c6c7d No. 6247
>>2803
>that freaking image and filename
I'm just amused by the pairing.
Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 19:11:36 0bd590 No. 6270
>>6224
>>6241
Just realized that I completely misread your post. Oh well, enjoy your fliderdry.
Anonymous 08/03/15 (Mon) 13:45:23 fb5f88 No. 6273
>>6270
Hey, might work better than what I was thinking.
>bunch of flypeople in exterminator getups wielding flamethrowers
Anonymous 09/16/15 (Wed) 00:25:56 9938e0 No. 6526
Crest Princess-Headhunters
Armor Princess-Bodysnatchers
Anonymous 09/27/15 (Sun) 23:08:57 c6d805 No. 6558
Did a redesign on Carbonix, as well as a bunch of alternate palettes.
Bloodshot Eye 09/28/15 (Mon) 01:53:00 490316 No. 6560
>>6558
I <3 boobies AND orange soda =w= I do I do I doooo~
Lemme guess the other four, hummm… Mountain Dew, Sprite, Pepsi and…. I can't discern the brown and green one, but is it guarana flavor?
Anonymous 09/28/15 (Mon) 02:14:01 c6d805 No. 6561
>>6560
You got the Mountain Dew and the Pepsi right, but as for the others: the green-and-yellow one is based on a character from an animated short film I'm working on, the red-and-green one is supposed to be red wine, and the yellow one is supposed to be Royal Jelly. Good guesses, though!
And I forgot to post the White Wine alt I made
Dragon Knight Eleanora 10/09/15 (Fri) 17:48:19 8e0567 No. 6588
I found this over in Art Thread IV, but it's mostly unfinished. He's by far the single enemy I have the most interest in seeing finished.
>>5374
This guy presented a few possible backstories.
>>5380
This guy had some ideas and basic premise for personality and a few ways to fight him.
>>5431
This guy had a few ideas for his slain and recruited.
My personal favorite for his backstory is the mass sacrifice for his princess, making her queen. The ritual darkens her heart, and she stops caring about him. He's broken that he sacrificed everything for her, literally. So he's become a shadow of his former self. She uses him for her relief and he ultimately sires her daughters. His zealotry knows no bound and he will fight you to the death, allowing you to recruit him by one condition, having saved his daughters from their own fates of greed and wanton gluttony.
Considering his recruit bonus would be locked behind a three princess door, I'd think it'd be decently powerful.
Bloodshot Eye 10/22/15 (Thu) 02:19:47 990d86 No. 6638
>>6588
Greetings Eleanora!! Pity nobody had come to welcome you sooner. I'd have done so, myself, but I figured I'd save for when I had something to deliver (pic related) :P
He's my fave boss too, and we just so happen to share the same headcanon XD however, I had to keep his description vague enough so everyone can interpret him the way they desire. Even so, the broken legend motif sort of prevailed, not to mention I made his recruit and defeat bonuses more than enough of a hint to our preferred backstory…
btw, welcome to /twgrl/, better late than never! ^w^
Anonymous 10/22/15 (Thu) 04:40:49 bfa11a No. 6639
Hmm…
>>Doesn't like magic.
>>Middle child is a mage.
…This explains a lot. New headcanon: DPII has daddy issues.
>>Likes close combat
>>Eldest child takes after him.
>>Eldest child still has imaginary friend who's a knight.
…this also explains a lot.
Bloodshot Eye 10/22/15 (Thu) 13:42:24 990d86 No. 6641
>>6639
… Does it? I don't follow, lol ^^U
Bloodshot Eye 10/22/15 (Thu) 16:13:22 990d86 No. 6643
>>6588
>>6638
Now here's a few ideas from the art thread I think should be accounted. If anyone wants me to replace something from my version of the card, feel free to say so.
+ Undistracted by petty things such as wealth, sex, or mortal wounds
- Stubborn and single-minded
- Kids these days with their harems
Recruit Bonus: "Emblem of Valor", enhances the wearer's abilities with each heroic deed that is performed.
Defeat Bonus: You are named a veteran knight, allowing you to recruit other knights and past heroes of the land.
Fetish: Strong Opponents
Dislike: Arrhythmia
Dislike: Indiscipline
Dislike: Cowardice
Desc: A fallen general who seems hell-bent on defeating all who oppose him. Whatever his reasons, he is indefatigable in combat, and has countless years of bloodlust and conquest behind him. He will not fall easily.
Desc: One of the few surviving knights of the past tower quest, he seeks to test the metal of the current generation's knights.
Bloodshot Eye 10/24/15 (Sat) 14:06:12 990d86 No. 6649
>>6638
This version is not yet final, btw. Still waiting for people's opinions before I do the last touch-ups.
Eleanora 10/25/15 (Sun) 18:22:46 8e0567 No. 6650
>>6649
Oh my God, After about a week of no reply, I started to scare I'd never get one. My apologies for my own tardiness in reply.
Anyways, personally, I think Cowardice is the best negative, rather than "harems". I really like the idea that the only way to recruit him would be to take all of his daughters, showing that they found happiness and that not all hope is lost for his own dragoness. However, I understand why you couldn't put such a restriction. With that in mind, you can see why I don't think "harem" exactly fits there.
>>6643
I'm concerned about the Mantle of the War Sage. Speciically about Train AND Fight. What if your kingdom is in a period of peace? It makes no sense to pick random fights. Likewise, if you're leading a campaign and are fighting constanty, you don't have time for training. A nitpick,but I'd think that "and" should be changed to "or".
I like the Relic of Redemption.
Oh! an interesting thought after rading the first description. Perhaps, as I think might have been suggested in the art thread, he comes to you after the first tower to challenge you if you save his daughter. And he challenges you after each tower if you dave his daughters. Part of his interest being to see if your worthy to have their hands.
Bloodshot Eye 10/25/15 (Sun) 21:04:12 990d86 No. 6652
>>6650 No apologies needed, but appreciated all the same. ^^
Technically, fighting is a more active form of training - like a hands-on experience - so, in a way, you don't have to worry too much about the former if you're nailing the latter. My idea was that the addition of "Train and" should give the more noblebright players room to assume constant sparring will keep them covered. What would "fight" entail? Little skirmishes? Full-blown battles? Harming someone? Drawing blood and potentially killing? Ultimately, it is all up for the players to interpret as they wish and play this towers game however they find most entertaining.
In hindsight… if you were aiming for a period of peace, pretty shady that you slayed an alignment-neutral guy for an item that has "War" in its name. Shady shadiness… but yeah, I did personally expect the mantle to make you go after fights same way Ancient Knight was constantly seeking a knight who could best him.
I gonna change that dislike tho'.
>he comes to you after the first tower to challenge you if you save his daughter. And he challenges you after each tower if you dave his daughters. Part of his interest being to see if your worthy to have their hands.
Interesting thoughts. My thoughts were that even if you don't sabe either of the DPs he'd show up after the events of Gen 3, as that was the icing on the cake to give you notoriety enough so even he has his curiosity ticked (assuming he's been "hunting" real legends all these years and someone who invades thrice the Grand Tower Kingdom and amass a number of wives/boons is the Legend minimum in his books)
Eleanora 10/30/15 (Fri) 18:14:32 8e0567 No. 6666
>>6652
Alright, a fair distinction, I suppose.
Also, he's hardly alignment neutral if you go with the "he murdered all the other knights" backstory.
So he comes to you as a final challenge of sorts. I like it.
Anonymous 10/31/15 (Sat) 05:20:09 20473f No. 6668
>>6666 nice quads btw
everyone's alignments are very flexible depending on the background chosen for them, tho'
Eleanora 10/31/15 (Sat) 21:59:59 8e0567 No. 6678
>>6668
I was just pointing out to Bloodshot, who said as much to me originally, that we want to leave it openended about what the backstories and such are. So my point was more "Don't take away for some players that he's some great evil to be defeated by the valiant knight."
Bloodshot Eye 11/01/15 (Sun) 03:36:27 20473f No. 6680
>>6666 ('grats on the quads I guess, lol)
>>6678
Dully noted. Aaaaaand, here he is!! :D That version is pretty much final unless you guys want to tweak something.
Brumus 11/09/15 (Mon) 07:47:53 a83a12 No. 6719
>>6588
>>6638
>>6650
>>6680
Oh Jesus! People actually like him!? I assumed everyone hated him so I stopped workin on him, thank you!
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 00:47:36 4e9801 No. 6771
>>6724
speaking of dragons, I have some unposted stuff lying around, including some flavour text.
There was a "what kind of enemies would serve the Dragon Princessess" thing a while back, and I put them in a sort of caste system - DP is the master, and other creatures fall into a system of the more usefull the DP finds them, the higher up the ladder they are and the more likly they have a unique general as a middleman.
DP1 is the first dragon in Towergirls, and very, very, very hungry, who probably only cares about how tasty you are, so she wouldn't attract many followers by 1. being the first boss and 2. eating everyone. So I gave her a standard Dragon entourage of Kobolds and Cultists, who look a little like Team Magma.
The Kobolds would probably have been dragged into this situation, honestly. They likly have a pact with the Dragon Queen, so when DP1 showed up they were basically forced into serving her over their own Princess. At least their master chef is able to keep them off the firing line and make sure the captured princessess are well fed under a "we're just readying them for the sacrafice" excuse they made up on the spot when they were caught serving the captured Princessess a vast abundance of masterwork food.
Meanwhile, the Human cultists are people who are destined for gruntwork. They think that if they worship the hungry dragon enough, mostly by throwing enough food and gold into DP1's room, she'll eventually not go and burn the farms down looking for more food. They probably carry the gold to places where DP1 can't eat it if they need to buy anything for the Kitchens, or possibly send it home to Mom, and unpopular cultists will find themselves drawing lots to go and serve DP1 food, because the Kobolds are too smart to go anywhere near her when she's hungry. Unfortuantly, this means they are dumb enough to believe the Kobolds are readying the captured Princessess to be fed to DP1. And dumb enough to tell DP1 this, and in fact tell basically everyone who would listen. Nice going, boys, your the entire reason a small army of knights showed up.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 22:50:05 9938e0 No. 6782
>>6771
Clever use of the Kitchen Kobold.
Minichibis 12/28/15 (Mon) 01:20:43 0e151d No. 6809
Newknight here, with some enemy ideas.
All of these are based around the whole "skeleton with only half of it sticking out of the ground" shtick
Anonymous 01/29/16 (Fri) 09:14:56 e50a0c No. 6875
Tried my hand at making stuff
Clay slab, clay slab with wings, and for good measure, girls with lumps of clay on pottery wheels for heads