Knights General: Necessary Stuff Edition Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 11:50:59 1b5254 No. 3612 [View All]
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>>2955 Some things we need to sort out. I know they're not particularly exciting but this is like eating your vegetables. Gotta have 'em.
>2. Draw Man-At-Arms he's been a character forever >3.Organize order of the chart. Possibly by theme (Ace + 'Color Knights', Classes, Races) 313 posts and 94 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:06:22 1b5254 No. 4164
>>4163 >attempt to make green knight He's older than that, was one of the first knights to be created. It's more like the other way around. Red Knight is only there because of his name, but I'd honestly prefer a much different Red Knight.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:10:23 2a9e39 No. 4165
>>4163 green knight was the first of the color knights, and he was only green because of the story.
damn, looking it up that was drawn almost exactly a month ago
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:24:23 6a22fb No. 4166
>>4163 >self-insert What? Fuck no. That shit's embarrassing, and even if it was a self-insert, I wouldn't put it in a lewd cyoa. Are you Critique Knight or Ad hominem Knight?
>>4153 That's a valid criticism. I did pretty much slap the color on to match the color knight theme, though mid way through I was thinking about just having him be Mul Knight instead of Red Knight since it'd thematically fit better (and I wouldn't have to change his portrait that because I'm a lazy fuck), but I went with it anyways since no one expressed any specific problem with it until now.
Except that one guy who kept saying his shade of red was too bright. That was weird.
That aside, I can change Red Knight into some other knight (probably Mul Knight) and maybe someone else could draw their Red Knight.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:36:47 1b5254 No. 4167
>>4166 >I can change Red Knight into some other knight (probably Mul Knight) and maybe someone else could draw their Red Knight. That would make things a lot easier, if you don't mind doing that though. I don't want to force you to change him.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:38:18 989095 No. 4168
>>4157 >imo "Ace" should have just been the only human knight, and everything else would have used the races already provided by the Princess Gens. Maybe a few other oddities that aren't human too. Yeah, that ship set sail a LONG time ago, compadre. We'd have to throw out most of the chart for that now.
Critique (Clearly Mistaken) Knight 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:39:51 30e5a8 No. 4169
>>4164 >>4165 >>4166 It looks like I can't get any of my facts straight Christ.
I haven't been on these threads for too long but I do remember someone posting for Red Knight saying that it was their Knight and posting a back story.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:46:19 6a22fb No. 4170
>>4169 You're right about Red Knight having the design of a character from a story, and I did give a tl;dr about it, if that's what you meant by self-insert. I thought you meant I was putting myself in the game, though, which is why I said "fuck nah."
>>4167 It's not a big deal for me to do that, but it might take a little while. I've been a lazy fuck as of late.
Critique (Clearly Mistaken) Knight 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:52:13 30e5a8 No. 4172
>>4170 Self-insert was poorly chosen words on my part
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 23:58:12 6a22fb No. 4174
>>4172 It's cool dude, I'm not that salty about it.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 00:09:52 1b5254 No. 4175
So I did a Bronze Knight. I'll just say there's a reason I don't draw, I don't do clean very well. I can't color or do smooth edits, especially with a mouse.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 00:18:31 989095 No. 4176
>>4175 A net has potential to be very difficult to draw. If you're not confident in your abilities, I'd say dual tridents. You can potentially cheat a bit by drawing them stowed across his back, though.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 01:26:41 84a232 No. 4177
>>3843 got bored, consider this part 2 of this gag.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 01:58:28 49ab90 No. 4179
>>4177 Beautiful. I'd love to see a full set.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:00:29 2a9e39 No. 4180
>>4176 nah a cartoony net should be easy, something really simple & stylized like this
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:13:54 1b5254 No. 4183
Alright here's a go with two tridents. One has him holding the other behind his back like he's posing for it or something. Maybe I'll try a net next.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:16:59 dd4439 No. 4184
"'Ey laddie, yer mother's dildo just arrived!"
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:20:02 1b5254 No. 4186
>>4184 Loving it so far. I don't know what you could do to improve it. You've even got the battering ram.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:21:42 989095 No. 4187
>>4184 Ram Knight's looking great!
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:25:57 2a9e39 No. 4188
>>4184 no need to go overboard with the cloth pattern yknow, most of the texturing on all the other knights is really quick n dirty stuff intended to be representative rather than a literal depiction
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:51:18 1b5254 No. 4190
Alright, which one do you think I should go with?
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 02:57:45 989095 No. 4192
>>4190 Net. Definitely net.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 03:09:31 2a9e39 No. 4194
>>4190 net 100%
the trident might also look better if you have him holding it straight up or kinda planted in the ground, as is it just looks like a big fork and not really a polearm
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 03:12:19 1b5254 No. 4195
>>4194 That sounds like a good idea. First, I'll try messing around with the trident a bunch until it looks much more presentable.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 03:14:04 2a9e39 No. 4197
>>4195 making the points (tines?) less curved might help, i dunno
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 04:48:12 1b5254 No. 4200
>>4197 Everything I tried look more and more like a fork until I eventually got this thing. Hopefully less like a little fork now.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 08:11:53 1b5254 No. 4205
And my stats for him so far.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 08:29:37 2a9e39 No. 4207
>>4205 i like it, but some thoughts
-the kerning on the text seems kinda messed up, what settings are you using?
-'most battles are just a show' doesn't really sound like a positive
-pretentious is probably not really the best word to use there, but this might just be personal pref
-the bottom flavor text looks better center-justified
and w/r/t to the stats, so he's a braggart who only claims to be a skilled warrior, but when you look at his stats he's actually more skilled than any other knight on the starting chart, so which is it?
speaking of stats, why does bear knight have above average prowess?
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 08:45:47 1b5254 No. 4208
>>4207 >the kerning on the text seems kinda messed up, what settings are you using? >the bottom flavor text looks better center-justified GIMP 2 default. When I said I don't do clean very well that extends to this sort of stuff too. I'll try fixing it up but don't be surprised if it comes out worse in some way.
Conceited? I picture him quoting all these philosophers out of context or trying to say something meaningful and it sounds meaningful until you take a few seconds to realize he more or less said nothing.
It's just a fancy way of saying he's good at combat, but yeah I can see where it can be a negative. I'll try something else.
Someone confused it for a combat stat and altered it. I will track down the original profile and use that instead.
Speaking of that
It's more like he actually is a skilled warrior but that's really all he is good for. He's pretty shit at everything else, and he's far from the strongest out there.
Looking at it again, yeah prowess represents much more than that. So at best he'd be 2-3.
I think I'll swap his Charm and Prowess. Possibly just make his prowess average (2) and boost his stamina. Which would be better in your opinion?
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 09:15:10 9b7f43 No. 4210
>>4184 IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I mean, I can't choose to be a Ram Knight out of pure hatred for my north-of-the-wall neighbours, but it's gorgeous!
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 09:31:51 2a9e39 No. 4211
>>4208 bam, although this version doesnt have a weapon description (but imo its funnier that way)
honestly I would say just rephrase those two points rather than changing the statline, since he fits a niche that none of the other starter knights do atm. just make it more clear that it's about wisdom instead of 'ways of a great warrior' being a martial thing. or, could generalize it so its like
+ skilled
- not half as skilled as he'd like you to believe
but much more elegantly phrased of course
as for the text i don't know anything about gimp so i can't help there
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 09:42:21 9b7f43 No. 4212
our time is short, friends.
Do the right thing.
http://strawpoll.me/4112589
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 09:46:27 1b5254 No. 4214
>>4211 Will give some of that a try. For now, this is what I did while you were hunting down the correct Bear for me (thanks). Is it better? GIMP has a kerning option but it just makes things worse.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 09:51:34 2a9e39 No. 4215
>>4214 nah it's not a big deal, just something that stuck out to me a little
id say go with 3 cha 4 prow, but the reverse would be fine too
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 10:03:08 1b5254 No. 4216
>>4215 Alright sounds good.
So how are the pros and cons at the moment? Are the changes sufficient?
I'll write a few more in this post just so I only have to make one card after.
(Current)
+Claims to be wise in the art of war
-Is not, just misquotes pretentiously
+Claims to have worldly wisdom
-Does not, just misquotes pretentiously
+Claims to be the very strongest
-Actually just a big fish in a small pond
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 10:04:36 2a9e39 No. 4217
>>4216 the one you've got seems good to me honestly
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 10:12:44 1b5254 No. 4218
>>4217 Alright, cool. Earlier I said I was going to make a Blue Knight because Yven and Arcane didn't seem to sit well with most people. Anything you'd want in a Blue Knight? Will be collecting some opinions before attempting one.
Theme, weapons, powers? Keep in mind I'm no miracle worker though. Bronze's art is seriously the best I can do with a mouse.
FelineKnave 04/13/15 (Mon) 12:21:34 fbcb63 No. 4219
>>4184 looks excellent
>>4214 I went with 4 prow and 3 charisma but I can change that easily for the megalist.
FelineKnave 04/13/15 (Mon) 12:23:12 fbcb63 No. 4220
>>4218 we need an archer knight so blue could cover that territory. Alternatively we could use a few more spear wielding knights.
FelineKnave 04/13/15 (Mon) 13:06:17 fbcb63 No. 4221
so I made a (really crappy looking) cape for the old elf knight alt form and turned him into druid knight.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 13:31:37 1b5254 No. 4222
>>4220 >could use a few more spear wielding knights. Well, here is a Red Knight design and I imagine he's either a spear wielder or a dual wielder. I don't know, which do you think would fit more?
>>4221 Might be cool. Text needs some sprucing up though. If you're using MS paint it's a bit trickier to get it right.
FelineKnave 04/13/15 (Mon) 13:50:08 fbcb63 No. 4223
>>4222 design looks good, any tips or tricks on MS paint text sprucing?
Indonesian Gentleman 04/13/15 (Mon) 13:51:09 4d50f3 No. 4224
>>4222 -Fuck, you crazy
-Fuck son
-Calm down
I like this hothead!
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 13:56:48 1b5254 No. 4225
>>4223 I just moved on to Gimp because I couldn't make it look good or had to compromise a lot of the time. I would just mess with sizing and if there's a kerning option somewhere I would tweak it. GIMP's not that great when it comes to kerning but it's at least somewhere in the ballpark of correct spacing with its default stuff.
FelineKnave 04/13/15 (Mon) 14:01:15 fbcb63 No. 4226
>>4225 well I messed with text placement somewhat.
and I have GIMP but I have no clue on how to use it, just need practice with it really but for the moment I'm competent enough with Paint that I can do stuff like minor edits and coloring that I can't do in GIMP
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 17:31:08 7ab907 No. 4236
>>4184 I like it my only real suggestion would be removing the top knot.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 18:22:18 1c78e8 No. 4238
Since there's a Trap Princess, should there be a reverse-trap Knight, as well?
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 20:24:43 1b5254 No. 4247
>>4238 Well, either that's Princess Knight or we're probably not getting one as the fetishy-kind but more like the Mulan kind. It doesn't really work for knights too well imo. Would just stick to normal female knights.
Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 22:26:48 1b5254 No. 4271
Anonymous 07/24/15 (Fri) 23:03:29 10d4ad No. 6181
>>3843
Too much? He's my new favorite knight.
Anonymous 07/24/15 (Fri) 23:14:04 10d4ad No. 6182
>>4236
That's a terrible suggestion.