that reaction makes this gold
>Meowth talks for years
>says jew stuff
>Pikachu finally talks
>says gay shit
Notice all voices are mature men mostly. No children. This is what's really creepy.
>janitor "cleans up" the thread
doin it for free at the speed of light
This janitor…. has no equal…
Don't tell me you actually watch this crap.
>Pikachu could talk for all these years
Children dont care about pokemon anymore.
>implying there's anyone left playing pokemon aside from the genwunners who are now adults
They also all play pokemon go.
>That gay ass voice
>That crowd reaction
Fuck me, this is perfect
We should just gas all the autistic millennials that still care about this crap.
Why are there so many grown ass adults watching a kid's flick?
Well, I'd rather have them talk then the Pikachu and Caterpie scene
Indeed, it's pretty disgusting.
>The pokemon anime and movies have been running for 20 years straight
>Still not a single movie or season that is worth watching
Digimon wins again
>Haha what nerds caring about videogames
You both realize that you are also both millennials right?
I enjoyed the seasons all the way up to hoenn as a child, as well as the first 8 movies.
That said digimon always was cooler. Pokémon felt cheesy by comparison. I remember having a few vhs tapes with some really fucking dark digimon episodes on them and they seemed like the coolest shit ever, but I never really got to see it on TV because it was never on.
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Fun fact. The Angela anaconda short is the only thing that kept Saban from releasing digimon the movie. The Canadians accidentally out Jewed the Jew. Under Canadian law. Saban would still pay Angela anaconda royalties. And fox no longer forking the bill.
32-year-olds are millennials, mate.
The Millennial generation started in the early 80's.
What did I miss?
I want to see the picture anon wanted to post. He put so much work in posting it too! C'mon janitor just leave it up for a few minutes.
Muh shitposting is free speech. Go back to 4cuck.
>Pikachu confirmed gay for Ash
Except this is literally a shitposting thread anon.
Im more curius as to the types of adults in that crowd.
what the fuck is this from
I blame Pokemon go for this. The crowd sounds more autistic than the one i seen the my little pony movie with.
Horrendously, cringe-inducingly awful television adaptations that never end and never feature character development, which exist for the sole purpose of cashing in on the small child logic that all objects part of a franchise must be equally good are not video games.
Angela Anaconda was solely the american dub company's fault.
It is indeed terrible.
They're really bad and unwatchable.
Only early on did they try and fail to do anything interesting with Pokemon, like the little arc with Charizard. But it didn't end up working out since Ash is not allowed to develop as a character, since then there would be an eventual end to his character as he grows.
The movies were pretty shitty, even if sometimes well animated.
Its just shit for children and Nintendo never viewed it as anything but that, nor put effort into it.
Holy fuck my brother and his freind are those types
lol that fucking feminine ass voice on a male pikachu
Moderation is just fine, you want to dump porn use /vp/. Time to read the rules, rapefugee.
Tbh every time it said its own name it used this voice
According to this anon-→>>13793674
It wasn't even porn. Now I'm really curious.
Ah, mods are fags as usual then
someone link it offsite
Oh fuck, what a smarmy looking cunt.
I bet they don't even have fans hard enough to make death threats.
I bet that all the greasy fuckers had a raging boner as Pikachu spoke.
You'd think this image was meant to be a joke.
pikachu: its because…. its because i always wanna be with you
meowth: OYY GAYY
Can't really call this image being right. At least in 2017.
It could just be the parents.
Parents wouldn't know, let alone care, that Pikachu is not supposed to talk.
I actually cannot stop laughing because of this laud "what the fuck" from some dude that is clearly over 25.
This audience voices was some top 10 anime reveals this years.
>claims others are cuckchan
>he doesn't even know about the log
It's mark you huge huge cuck.
Also using the word janitor, like who are you trying to fool here?
>if you call an apple an apple then you are SJW
Come on anon, you know that those are some greasy autistic types in the audience.
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third time's the charm.
not b&, just annoyed.
if it actually worked this way, you would have NEETs and other chan-scum inhabiting the top of the rosters
>wahhhh how dare you don't betray your brothers
You're the type of person to go to a white pride rally and screech about whites.
I unironically support this nigger fetish being banned.
What the hell are you even talking about.
The fuck are you on about? It's a theater full of Pokemon fags. You really think there's anything but cancer there?
I know you're both playing dumb, but that anon dropped the C bomb and did damage control over it. Come on, it's obviously an SJW.
>people are throwing away (you)s like candy
He takes his job very seriously.
it's what I posted earlier anyway, sure seems like it caused more drama trying to shut it down. Dunno what crawled up Marks butt tonight. Perhaps the thicchu makes him feel funny.
>the /intl/ shitposter, as shown by >>13793689, is a (You)fag
It kills me how consistently right I am.
It is. Back in my day (You)'s were earned through hard-work and effort, hell I lived long enough to see the first (You) ever created.
>creepy is an SJW word
You're making shit up to try and sound cool. Creepy isn't the same as toxic or problematic. And he's right as well. That room is probably full of some of the creepiest degenerate manchildren and Pokemon's been shit since the 90's. Fuck off.
Do people still even play that?
>You're making shit up to try and sound cool.
Then explain how my life was ruined. Because I know fully well it was destroyed by that word thanks to a bunch of SJWS. So if you have a better explanation, go right fucking ahead, traitor.
OH RIGHT YOU DON'T HAVE SHIT, BECAUSE I'M RIGHT.
>And he's right as well. That room is probably full of some of the creepiest degenerate manchildren
You'll hang with the rest, you man-hating garbage.
also, middle aged men tend to play it quite a bit.
Holy shit, calm down with the buzzwords.
That's funny, because in the 80s and 90s nobody fucking called anyone millennials and this seems an awful lot like bullshit to deflect criticism of the iPhone and Facebook generation by deliberately conflating two clearly distinct generations and pointing to the lack of similar criticisms which don't apply to one of them.
>being an uncalmfag
>being a kid
>being a nerd
>being a tryhard
>being a spammer
>being a cuckold
>being a probably literal faggot in general
Oh, let's put this last nail in the coffin:
also also, I'd personally be fine with it being as big now as it was when it first released. Crime rates went way down and it was nice seeing people out and about, even if their eye's were glued to their phones. Hell, I didn't even play it but it was just nice being able to easily strike up a conversation with anyone you passed.
Well let's be fair here- pikachu has been around Ash and other humans for 20 years now, and it took meowth about 6 months to learn how to talk, which actually makes pikachu slow in the head
>my life was ruined because people called me creepy
Maybe that means you should jump on a treadmill and get your life together you fucking faggot. I bet the people you call sjw's are just trying to help and you're bitching about it on the one place people can't see your """creepy""" fucking face. Fuck off and stay mad.
The entire franchise is slow in the head tbh fam.
You have schizophrenia.
I miss the schizo anon who would post walls of words with some of the most incomprehensible shit, I still have some of his posts saved as copy pasta's to this day
Wanna play, you nerdy feelingsfag?
>I bet the people you call sjw's are just trying to help and you're bitching about it on the one place
Yes, I was trying to be helped by that fucking cunt who decided to chime in to call me that word, leading me to being ostracized from AN ENTIRE FUCKING CITY ALL BECAUSE I TRIED TO DEFEND MYSELF. She was TOTALLY trying to save me, yep. Not like you're a fucking liar and traitor.
Who the fuck am I kidding, I'm going to put it out there: Jessica, I'm going to kill you for this. You're a disgusting dyke and you just admitted to having shitty emotions by calling me mad. Lord have mercy on your soul when I'm done with you.
Not an argument.
This just might be him, keep reading.
Anon…. want to elaborate?
KILL IT BEFORE IT EVOLVES
On what? For the former, not particularly. Never tell your enemies what you're going to do, after all. Just do what you're going to do.
For the latter, well, come on. Just look at it, it's blatant ad hominem.
How is it possible that Pokemon and JRPG threads always bring out peak autism?
How exactly was your life ruined?
Sit down and tell us a story, anon
Yeah, that guy could brighten up any thread
>tfw you will never be so degenerate that an entire city calls you a creepy faggot
What the fuck did you do? Tell the entire city you want to fuck a pokemon? Jesus fuck I'm dying.
Is this supposed to be funny or…?
Just read what I've already posted and pieced it together yourself. It's a short, yet destructive story. Gotta work harder for my dox, sweetcheeks.
I don't know which one of you fuckers this is, but I don't really care. Just gotta burn the place down and you'll get your punishment.
What did you do to get called creepy? Why did they chase you out of town?
reddit social justice wankers frequently use "Fuck off" though.
Go drink some chawklit milk
>you can't say fuck off now because reddit uses it too
Might as well stop breathing
>redditors use the term fuck off
This is the point of no return. Either stopposting or subject yourself to anonymous humiliation and bullying. Either way this thread has been entertaining so do whichever you feel is more comfortable.
I could scream in anger, I could cry. What good would it do…
This exists, this is now part of reality.
There are no enemies here. Just anons….
Besides, Jessica is to popular for 8chan isn't she?
>Besides, Jessica is to popular for 8chan isn't she?
Who the fuck is Jessica?
Pokemon's been fucked since 2000 man. Manhy would argue it's been fucked since it's creation. If you're still invested in what's wrong with it you're nearly 2 decades late.
Anon's imaginary friend that bullied him out of town.
You're saying that AN ENTIRE FUCKING CITY ostracized you because some bitch called you creepy.
I'm assuming that you are american, which wold mean that the average population of a city is over 20 000, which in turn means that thousands of people despise you because a woman they have never met and don't even know said something mean about you. I am simply having trouble imagining this scenario
So is 285ac4 the /fringe/ board owner? Sounds a lot like him.
Sorry for the long-ass effortpost.
It was entirely unprovoked. I was talking with someone on, may Mark forgive me for uttering this word, Facebook. I was such a good goy back then, I'd cringe at my past self if it wasn't what my many enemies wanted me to do. Then I make a comment about how rarely we talk. Then in comes the wench I still need to kill, calling me creepy. From there, it all went downhill. Lost friends, I'm probably banned from a gathering, and my only brother-in-arms is now totally MIA. They probably killed the poor bastard.
As for being chased out of town? I probably used the wrong choice of words. It wasn't even my hometown. I still go there, but I have to hide my face in case I'm recognized.
Don't do that, newfag. And I wouldn't be surprised if she WAS here. Fuckers like her love to manipulate their opposition from within.
God, I wish it was that simple.
You underestimate these factors:
>The fact she's a dyke, and therefore a manipulative whore who lives to sabotage men's welfare
>The fact that the city, and state while I'm at it, is pozzed to hell and back We're one of the states that replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day, to give you an idea
Again, sorry for the effortpost. I hate leaving people hanging.
Go to bed newfag
>I was such a good goy back then, I'd cringe at my past self if it wasn't what my many enemies wanted me to do
You should be cringing at your current self instead.
I think we should get back on track before Mark shoahs this thread as well
Fuck, that was long. Hey 767708, if you really want to know my lousy story, drop your >Discord or whatever the shit and I'll send a request. I'd rather not shit up the thread with my effortposts.
Nah' man, it's nostalgia that caused my reaction.
I'll die before I cringe at myself, you yiffing cocksock.
Before you ask, this doesn't count as an effortpost. :^)
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Same sorta. I'm glad I never fell into the Pokemon trap that so many others did.
Nigga I don't use discord, but thanks for going through all the trouble to explain yourself. Ridiculous reason to get kicked out of a goddamn city but I'll take it.
Didn't really see it get big around here, but I imagine it'd get frustrating if you tried to talk about pokemon with them. Odds are they only barely remember gen 1, maybe 2.
>not even your hometown
WHY DO YOU GO THERE
WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE
It's just gay fecesbook drama. I'm assuming you don't even see those people on daily basis, so who the fuck cares what they think
Yeah, I honestly can't wait for the day I grow a pair and take an opportunity to slit her throat. Edgy? Yes. However, vengeance is the most liberating feeling and if you disagree, you have shit taste in emotions.
>oy vey goy! don't seek revenge against the people who ruined your life! just lie down and blame yourself while watching some of our anti-male propaganda! yes, abandon your brothers!
Whatever you say, pal.
I was late into the pokemon party but I left as quick as I came. It's fun to play but after a couple of games you realize how ridiculous and repetitive everything is. not to mention the community and I'm not even talking about furfags and the like
Hey, I'm not condoning vengeance or murder, but if you do decide to go through with it, don't be afraid to tell your pals on 8ch beforehand. We're always here to listen.
What, you want a livestream or something? Don't tempt me :^)
I only watched the anime, and traded one or two cards at school, never played the games up until Pokemon X when I got a 3DS.
I'm not telling you to not take revenge, you can behead them on livestream for all I care.
I'm just confused why one would get pissed to the point of murder because of some retarded facebook shit
I did and hard, played everything since I was a kid and got my Pokemon Blue cart up to BW2 but already quit it (thankfully)
It ruined my life, my dude. If you don't get that by now, well no offense, but you probably never will. Pardon the cop-out, but we're probably never going to see eye-to-eye here. Sorry.
>That's funny, because in the 80s and 90s nobody fucking called anyone millennials
One is because "generations" are poorly defined social concepts that heavily depend on cultural and political climates which vary greatly from country to country. For example, in Canada they claim Gen Z started in the 90's while in Japan they say it started in the 2000's.
The second is because millennials would have been very young in the 80's and 90's. Technically generation after Gen Z is already alive but nobody talks about them because at oldest, they're still only 5 or so years old.
Has that guy not been killed yet? Man /k/ needs to step up their game
Let me establish a timeline here:
>Schizoanon's life is okay.
>Schizoanon posts on facebook to someone that they rarely talk to each other.
>Random woman, Jessica, comes in and calls him creepy.
>He defends himself.
>He loses all his friends, is banned from parties and gatherings, ostracized from the city.
>Has to cover his face when he goes to said city, so nobody recognizes him.
>Schizoanon posts on 8chan's /v/ in a thread about Pokemon about this.
>Schizoanon believes, or finds it likely that Jessica or one of her associates posts here and is mocking him.
>Schizoanon claims he has yet to kill Jessica, but he will.
>Schizoanon claims this chain of events ruined his life
Are you by chance that one fucking lolcow that keeps posting 'NOT AN ARGUMENT' over and over in anime threads?
Dragon Maidfag is not the same as SchizoAnon 2.0 clearly
How exactly did you defend yourself?
Simple. I grilled the shit out of her. It's no different from self-defense, you know?
Because you are very clearly mentally ill, not sure if its Schizophrenia - but you should see a doctor.
Just trying to keep you nutcases apart.
Is Dragonmaidfag still posting on /v/?
That guy is fucking insane, is Dragonmaidfag also the /fringe/ board owner?
>oy vey, give your shekels to a man who will get you thrown in a padded cell, goy!
Thanks, but no thanks. Nice same time post though.
Now I want to see mentally ill posters posting.
>never played the games up until Pokemon X
Did you play any of the older ones? Gen 2 and 3 in particular are really good gen 1 a shit
>Just trying to keep you nutcases apart.
Why? Get them together and see what happens
He hasn't showed up since at least a month.
>not liking how hilarious broken all the mechanics are
Sure, the quality of life changes were welcome in the later gens, but don't tell me it wasn't at least a LITTLE fun to break it.
So you publicly insulted her?
Can you give us an example of what you said?
I am just saying that clearly something isn't right with your brain.
Do you disagree with that?
>Can you give us an example of what you said?
I'd rather not give you ammo to track my posts down with, buddy.
>I am just saying that clearly something isn't right with your brain.
Ever play an Ace Attorney game? There's a saying that's said a lot in it: "Turn your thinking around."
So let's turn our thinking around. What if it's not OUR brains that are wrong, but the non-creeps' brains that are wrong? Food for thought, do enjoy.
>Is Dragonmaidfag still posting on /v/?
He'll probably appear in an anime/game thread if you call anime a cartoon.
the unholy spawn of /co/ and /v/ is every bit as hideous as you'd expect
>everyone in the theater is audibly confused
Wew. What the fuck were the filmmakers thinking?
What the fuck? How on earth was that stupid shit that directly died to the movie? Also I remember there was a thread recently, not sure if it was /v/ or /pol/ but it pointed out the blatant Jewishness responsible for that abortion of a show.
>I'd rather not give you ammo to track my posts down with, buddy.
You said yourself that Jessica or one of her friends is likely browsing this thread, so they know who you are.
So how does that matter? You can certainly paraphrase or change a few things, just give us a feel. We're trying to understand.
>What if it's not OUR brains that are wrong, but the non-creeps' brains that are wrong?
Are you saying you anticipated getting an entire city to hate and ban you, to the point that you have to cover your face when you visit there?
Or are you saying they were wrong to hate you after you insulted Jessica, and that your claim that you'll murder is reasonable?
>So how does that matter?
Because everyone else DOESN'T know who I am. And sure, they could just drop my dox at any time, but what if they were playing the long con, to make me look like a stark, raving mad lunatic? Well, more so than usual. Point is, you have to think of every scenario in a battle.
>Or are you saying they were wrong to hate you after you insulted Jessica, and that your claim that you'll murder is reasonable?
Nintendo has never seen Pokemon as anything more but a toyline for children that prints money. Its just a cynical assembly line kind of deal.
They do have a very strong grasp on what the franchise is supposed to look like, but they don't give a single fuck about stuff like writing quality.
Its why shit like this gets made, and pokemon fans don't care, as they're either children or fat autists that still keep playing that shit.
The Canadian animation industry is a one big welfare program for artists. They get leaf government kick backs as well federal legal protections that Japanese and American animators don’t have
I'm just having trouble seeing why some random Canadian short would be so heavily legally bound to the Digimon movie that it would get royalties for the movie being released without the short anywhere near it.
>he does it for free
Fun fact: pica means dick in Portuguese.
It was Saban's decision as far as I know, the English dubs for Digimon are for abysmally bad.
They also decided to merge 3 different movies into one, which is "the Digimon movie" and its basically one hot fucking mess.
Not sure how exactly the discussion went, but they thought it was a good idea.
Afterwards somebody got fired over this mess.
Wait, so you are telling me Mark doesn't get any financial compensation for this?
isnt that leftypols BO?
holy fuck i really wish i didnt open those spoilers
Yeah it's been getting posted all over the place, which is bringing a lot of salt and keks. At least he spoilered it unlike the post on /pol/.
SJWs also use words like blue and red. That doesn't make them SJW words you bloody poof.
False equivalence. Blue and red aren't damaging words.
Maybe he gets paid in cakes.
That wasn't in the English dub was it? I don't remember that at all.
Or maybe Ash hit his head a little too hard and for a brief moment he could comprehend pokemon
>all of these grown-ass adults going to see porkymon movies
you know this was an 8chan meet up right:
>decided to look at the spoiler just to see what it could be
>instantly regret it
Something about it was just disgusting.
>he posts, on a board where grown-ass adults buy and/or play on nintendo consoles along with playing pokemon games
So when will they fuck?
>implying they haven't already
The sheer force of which he vomits is nothing short of impressive.
>but that anon dropped the C bomb
Beyter than in hotpockets
Ash's Pikachu is male.
>implying that'll stop you
just a glimpse of the direction the series is heading into the future
>Implying its not already there
In theory, kids who grew up with Pokemon are old enough to be having children of their own now
>I don't how generations get named
>I want to generalise entire generations but I don't want to get associated with Facebook generation
You'd think learning you were a millennial would open your eyes to thinking 'hey, maybe blaming an entire generation is a retarded oversimplification because people can do the same to me' - instead you go with doublethink. Good job faggot.
Daily reminder that Gen X were born in the 80s, millenials were born in the 90s, and the shit lord Gen was born in the 2000s. If jewgle could get way it they would say millenials were born in the 70s!
>That's funny, because in the 80s and 90s nobody fucking called anyone millennials
That's because generational names are usually retrospective, you fucktard
That's mildly cute though.
>grew up watching pokemon
>know that most of that shit is pozzed now
>tfw creating a poz free, children friendly media server
Feels good having foresight when raising a kid.
>All these niggers in the audience
Whats with USA niggers worshipping entry tier anime?
Is it because their tribalistic brains don't know any better and their IQ stops them from watching anything else more in depth?
>i seen the my little pony movie
The smarter nigs escaped into anime back in the 90s. Too bad they brought in the nigger tier niggers who then worshiped shit like DBZ. The rest is history.
YOU CAN ALL STOP CRINGING, BECAUSE IT WAS ALL A DREAM, IT SAYS SO IN THE SHITTY NEWS AROUND THE WEB
As Meowth would say, Oy vey! :^)
>have been trying to find out how the song in that scene is called for a year
Does anyone on here know?
<Come back a few hours later
<Notice a third of last night's posts disappeared
Wow, where did all of the posts go?
I wonder (((who))) got rid of the posts.
I don't have an "Unpopular Opinion" image to go with this post.
What if it's a translation for the audience. I.e. Ash still hears "Pika pika" but he understands Pikachu. Sort of like in Viridian City when he understands Pikachu's plan to use other Pikachus to give him power. "You want more Pika-power." Not sure if subtitles gradually appearing would have been just as- if not more effective. Maybe it would have had more effect in Japanese- Pikachu's VA suddenly speaking words in that voice as oppose to someone trying to imitate it. Hell- maybe getting the Jap VA to speak English would have been better (assuming she could avoid engrish)
However it doesn't stop it being cliche and a cheap way to get "feels", trying to recapture stuff like Goodbye Pikachu or So Long Butterfree. But, it works for their target audience. Someone doing a nostalgia trip is gonna be easier to "sell" what emotions the movie is trying to sell, since they're in a childish state of mind. That and the audience is probably emotionally crippled.
Hell I'd have probably bawled my eyes out. I'm a soft-touch for shit like this.
I believe it has more to do with the target audience. A child can suspend disbelief that pokemon can have a mental connection so strong is can turn into understanding speech briefly. Pikachu was even doing its "pika pika" thing just before it.
I dont know what people are expecting from a fucking pokemon movie. Its about caturing maguc animals in little balls. Its magic, have fun with it.
Seconded. Much as I hate bad localization and dubs, I think it's pretty obvious the Pokemon anime guys would have a "do what it takes to make it sell" approach. And the original show wasn't going to set the world on fire, except as an advert for their merch.
Team Rocket's ad-libbing often made the show on a Saturday morning.
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> trying to find out how the song in that scene is called for a year
I didnt even know the webm was a digimon thing at first and it only took me like 10 minutes to find it.
Step up your game my dude.
>Going to the my little pony movie
>Admitting it to h8chan
They might be autistic but at least they're not as much of a faggot as you
>for some reason thought it was frontier
No wonder I couldn't find it. Thanks.
>Using your tech skills to have total control over what media your children consume to become at least ten times more powerful than some gay "TV Rating" system.
I like the way you think.
To be frank it's not a bad idea. Only risk is the kid being ostracized by their peers for not liking modern TV and liking "weird old shit".
You should share that list some time.
Thanks for making me feel sad anon that, two decades ago, companies used to put millions of dollars towards making any anime sell in the U.S. with hiring actual big name stars and giving the film a marketing and production budget that made it feel like "Now Japan has hit the big time", and, today, now anime is just a thing for creepy misogynistic weebs that is pushed off into the corner and is attempting to be controlled by political maniacs wanting to "fix" the release in the West while attacking their country of origin for making shows that have defined their culture for decades.
"I'm so nerdy XD" people don't count as actual nerds, anon. Those are just normals who somehow became so obsessed with being a consumer whore that they have trapped themselves in delusional fantasy harder than actual nerds. It's absolutely disgusting.
Who gives a shit what normalfags think?
Everything they like is shit.
But then again, so is 90% of anime, including the Pokemon movies.
>Only risk is the kid being ostracized by their peers for not liking modern TV and liking "weird old shit".
That's the beauty of it, no one really watches television anymore and most of it is just old shit from the 2000s. The media server is on a private network so I can stream my shit throughout my apartment but off of the top of my head:
>Bozo the Clown, That one old anime about the koalas from space, Eureaka's castle, Early Sesame street, Mr. Rogers, a lot of Hanna barbara cartoons
>Most cartoon network shows during their "Cartoon Cartoon!" era, a lot of 80s action shows like Centurions and G.I. joe
>bad goy sitcoms like Early Drew carry before the faggot brother, Classic Whose line, get lax and let him get away with watching the full server full of real bad goy shit
>required season one of married with children
To be fair, you are comparing Pokemon (a show that had nearly as much brand clout as Disney or Looney Tunes), to generic moeblob/shonen anime #301375.
I will admit, nowadays even the "big" anime titles get a bad budget and bad people working on it. But nothing has been a mainstream success like Pokemon was. Not even "giants" like Naruto or Dragon Ball Z when they were in their prime. Even though you've got figures, that doesn't make the same money as a kid wanting merch (toys, games, lunchboxes, clothes - lots of cheap things to make).
Simply put- unless it's hot with the kids, they're not gonna put a Hollywood budget into a show enjoyed by a hyper-critical audience that doesn't spend as much in merchandise. The net profit isn't worth the risk if it does flop.
How was that "Your Name" anime movie dub? Never saw it, but it was marketed like crazy.
What about the internet? Most kids use it, and watch Jewtube stuff.
How's that any different to people who use this board of video games? What's your point?
>not having a hardware firewall
>not giving your kid enough shit to do and stuff to enjoy that they meander to jewtube
I can't stop their friends from showing them stupid shit but hopefully I will raise them to choose their friends better than that or at least know that jewtube is garbage that mouth breathers use. Besides, considering how the internet and technology is woven into our lives I should expect him to know how to use youtube-dl and adblockers. In short, even by osmosis this kid is going to end up being a pretty bad goy.
>that they don't meander to jewtube
>tfw I never proofread anything I post longer than two sentences
>Never saw it, but it was marketed like crazy.
Where I live in the U.S., the last "big name" anime that was marketed like crazy was Ponyo and Arrietty, with Wolf Children receiving a small bit of attention as well.
>be an edgy shitposter in private
>be an edgy shitposter in public
Don't pretend there isn't a difference between these two, I bet you don't discuss the games you like openly with normalfaggots
>I bet you don't discuss the games you like openly with normalfaggots
I tried that recently. I was playing F-Zero for GBA the guy asked me what I was playing, told him what it was, and then proceeded to tell me how the Xbox 360 (With the usual list) was the peak of gaming. I have normalfag tastes for some shit (Halo 2 is one of my all-time favorite games) and even I know that's way off the marker.
Holyshit, just how retarded are you to think it's a good way of doing things, controlling what your children watches or learns is boring and very unproductive, it's kinda like you want to make a mini version of yourself and it sucks. I like that letting a child think of what he does and sees for himself without telling him what to watch,play or practize any kind of media is a better idea and a better way to make him grow.
Tl;dr : u guys are psychoes
So … how is Pikachu a male?
What do you mean?
Holy shit isnt that supposed to be a kids show?!
Thats pretty wicked anyways, but I would have been legitimately spooked watching that as a kid.
You can tell a pikachus sex by its tail, pikachu has a flat ended tail, female pikachus have a curvy ended tail. The pokemon games added that in gen 2 or 3 i think.
>The pokemon games added that in gen 2 or 3 i think.
Gen 4 was the one that started adding random gender differences.
> but what if they were playing the long con, to make me look like a stark, raving mad lunatic?
I have bad news for you anon….
>The pokemon games added that in gen 2 or 3 i think.
Gen 4, but it was basically dropped from gen 6 onwards (note how alolan raichu and the megas lack the differences)
Gen 6 had Meowstics which have different male and female appearances.
yeah, and the fire lions too, i just remembered. still, the megas removed dimorphism from their baseform and gen 7 got nothing
>Holy shit isnt that supposed to be a kids show?!
>Thats pretty wicked anyways, but I would have been legitimately spooked watching that as a kid.
Digimon Tamers was written by a well known horror writer, who also did Serial Experiment Lain and a live adaptation of Shadow Over Innsmouth.
His influence over that season is major, its more mature and sometimes rather dark.
But also much more well written than anything that came before and after.
>a live adaptation of Shadow Over Innsmouth
Tis a shame. I liked the little and drastic changes of each genders.
And this is how the Jews have come to colonize everyone's mind.
Just as eating candy will give you a short-term rush with long-term negative consequences (cavities, fat buildup), so too can consuming media and information. Is a child more likely to understand the long-term consequences of exposing themselves to the nihilistic and valueless schlock produced today that's dynamic and colorful, as opposed to stories of heroism and triumph that solidify the values necessary for long-lasting and sustainable human society?
Being a good parent is curating your child's environment. You don't expose your child to poison on the theory that it'll toughen them up. You shouldn't expose their minds to poison of the soul, either, which undoubtedly describes 95% of every piece of news and entertainment today.
Give them Aesop's fables, not teletubbies.
The digidestined in the first show had stuff relating to their crest, while Tamers did do some neat stuff IIRC. Henry afraid to be more dominant and outgoing since he used to be a bully, Rika wanting to be stronger to compensate for not getting enough love or some shit.
And that little girl with the hand-puppet blaming herself for her mom dying of cancer- then seeing herself with some Uzumaki shit.
No one cares fag lord
>Could talk for years
>Gay ass voice and confirmed to be gay for Ash
>Movie has a Mewtwo Strikes Back ending
Man the writers love to kill Ash a lot but now they had to embarrass him by making Pikachu confess he's gay to him man he can't get a break!
Your memory fails you on some stuff, but also the English dub rather severely fucked with the writing, changed character traits and made everything about trivial inane shit.
But thats implying no parents mind is already poisoned by retarded thoughts like the idea that jews have colonized everyones minds and then impart that poison onto their children by limiting what they're allowed to consume.
and it is in this moment that pokemon is confirmed dead forever.
>tfw no monster cockfight friends that'll fall in gay love with you
Is Ash still 11 years old 20 years later? Did he ever win anything at all?
Naburo at least became ninja president and impregnated best girl multiple times, what has Ash ever done?
>Retarded thoughts like the idea that jews have colonized everyone's mind
Is the idea of arming your child with the intellectual tools to overcome sophistry and relativism also a retarded idea? Building a solid understanding of logic and argumentation? The knowledge the universe exists, regardless of human endeavor? These are all steps good parents take to inoculate children against the evils of man, and all boundaries that must be enforced, either by the parent's behavior or by the nature of being.
Parenting, again, in any society that is remotely successful long-term (aka societies that aren't on the brink of collapse like ours), is all about passing on the good and throwing out the bad. Evaluating what was and is successful in our own lives, and passing those behaviors down, is as important as determining the failings and shortcomings in one's own life, and making sure the mistakes aren't repeated.
What we currently have are broken, degraded, and incompetent people that seek only to replicate their misery; god forbid they feel any apprehension facing their own mistakes. By eliminating any sense of appropriateness or boundary, you eliminate the last possible wisdom or goodness that even a soulless, shambling automaton might pass on to their progeny.
You are a peddler of human suffering and I hope that your bloodline is consigned to oblivion.
>controlling what your children watches or learns
You seem to think the difference is between you controlling that and nobody controlling that, as opposed to somebody else getting that control.
>"I don't want to control what my children watch, I'll let TV channel executives and Youtube's algorithm do that."
That's because back then you were underaged. Now that Millenials able to vote and have influence on the culture, people have started talking abou them
dude get your shit together
Have fun replicating your misery of the ebil joos ruining the world onto your children I'm sure they'll turn out just as full of shit as you because you'll stop them from being anything else.
you seem nihilistic as fuck
There's no objective cure for overcoming relativism now that that's been achieved by the mind except for forcing yourself to believe otherwise. (And yes, I do hate relativism).
It's kind of like the scientific and inquisitive thought bred by Christianity evolved so much so that it undermined its own pillars and religion. Same thing with relativism. There's no cure.
If there is—I would very much like to hear it.
>"If Entai was my dad things would be different: the movie"
Are you gay ? I said i'd rather let my childs get themselves that jewtube is shit and that TV channels control people's fear.
I liked pokemon games yellow/gold/platinum. I liked the games the series never interested me. Digimon was waaay better. until they went season 4 and i just turned it off. I liked season 1/3 way more then season 2. Then i lost Track of digimon.
Is that Some call me Johnny on the left?
That reminds me of those pokeparent threads on /vp/.
reminds me of my dad
Does this remind you of your mom?
you know it my friend
They were raised by television. They've spent more time with it than their parent.
This is the greatest god damn thing I've ever seen. The anime has reached a whole new level of glorious trash.
WE ARE BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE PEOPLE
what an unprecedented turn of events
This is nice thread
Almost like normalfags went to see this because muh classic pogermen, ain't that odd?
Be the greatest failure in shonen since Whatshisface from Fairy Tail
Lol this post triggered the fuck out of some faggots. Makes you all look insecure.
Good thing we have great posters such as you to tell us how to be secure
Actually, I've just realized why this doesn't work (more than just Ash's VA not being the old one in a movie about nostalgia pandering).
Pikachu- an animal for the sake of it- through magic powers or Ash's concussion speaks perfect english, with an accent (albeit a moeblob accent), and despite it being knocked the shit out of, speaks with no hindrance or pain in it's voice.
To make matters worse, it speaks a bit before it says the "tear-jerker" line. Meaning it's a 1-2 (where everyone still reacting with him speaking english) instead of one massive wallop ("Oh god he spoke and he said something sweet!")
I said it earlier, but I think Pikachu's Jap VA speaking in broken english might have worked better (sort of like Stitch from Disney). Plus since Pikachu kinda says "bigga" at times, you can throw people off.
> Bigga bikas… I wahnt tooh bee wiv yuu.
Well he is a Sonic autist(albeit one of the more tolerable ones), so this isn't too surprising.
>the gay community
<pokemones trying to speak english while sucking your benis
>that much circle faggotry
seriously how is there still that much pokemon faggotry?
I am from that time, even played the original games and watched the cartoon
even still I haven't give a fuck for anything related since I grew older than 16
I kinda remember when the first movie came with all the fuzz about and I didn't give a fuck
oh wow, I forgot Digimon cobranded with Angela Anaconda
I'm interested now. Anyone know anything about this?
I can guarantee you watch Meme and Reddity unironically
At least the English VA is cool about the reaction it's getting.
>A classic "I only play mature games for mature people such as myself" comment
Brings me back.
>pikachu is a faggot
you'd have to be to spend any time with that fucktard of a human.
Ash is a fucking casual playing it for the story
Didn’t the original voice actor for Pikachu also do Chopper from One Piece?
Thankfully, Digimon as a whole never really lost it's spine.
>I'd rather not give you ammo to track my posts down with, buddy.
Paraphrase it faggot.
Why is Tai just standing there like an idiot? Also, i guess it's time to get back to watching Digimon (And, watch the subs this time because I watched all the way through Data Squad with the dubs like an idiot that I was at the time.).
>It's been established since episode 1 of the anime that pokemon can learn to talk because of Meowth
>It's a complete mindfuck and a lorerape if another pokemon learns too.
To be honest, I think Steam Marketplace kickstarted the trend of lootboxes. Now that getting something super rare had actual value and could be sold for hundreds on the market, Valve created legal gambling. As for games like Overwatch, I have no idea what's going through lootboxers heads. You can't even so much as trade the skins you get.
>She can't even spell the name of the VA she's supposed to be filling in for
Amongst other roles, yes.
Grown men in arrested development watching a kid's movie in a theater. This is MLP-tier. At least enjoy your childrens media in private, not out in public.
He's having visions of his childhood when Greymon and Parrotmon destroyed his neighborhood and horrified him, but he's also pissed at Yamato/matt and isn't sure he can trust him.
reminder: that faggot was name after the creator of pokemon
no wonder he doesn't go outside much.
Not just that. He's finally starting to realize that shit is causing damage to the area and possibly getting by standers killed. Taichi is worried as fuck which is why he's so hesitant.
why'd you have to go and post that?
There is no amount of context that can stop this from being gayer than all of Hollywood.
The problem is that Meowth constantly explains that he used all of his experience to learn to speak human language, instead of being good at battling. Pikachu was trained from the beginning to battle and that's all he's ever known, he has no experience to put towards learning human language.
>anime with red as the main character
Holy shit, is this a thing? The concept sounds pretty damn good, is it actually a decent watch?
Very progressive, you're on the right side of history.
It's very short and I can't remember a thing about other than mega charizard. Maybe?
>Meowth constantly explains that he used all of his experience to learn to speak human language
Since fucking when?
In the first season he has flashback backstory about teaching himself to speak by living in a city as a stray and observing humans, before Jessie and James found him.
>fathers use to judge the quality of the boyfriend by their own standards
>the modern nufather trusts the judgement of a 12-18 year old girl
It's alright. It follows the game story/manga instead of the normal pokemon anime. It's called Origins and it isn't even feature length, it's like 4 tiny OVAs that culminate in an advertisement for XY.
>supports XY bullshit
>but it's a 4 episode story following R/B story
I might see if I can find a subbed version out there. Thanks for the heads up!
>I don't make the rules
Then why is he wearing that shirt?
>that one guy near the end of the vid screaming "NO"
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Since May 20th, 1999. 30 seconds.
>1:39 hear Tracey speak for the first time in like 15 years
FUCK Tracey god damn it. No wonder I stopped watching Pokémon, I could never stand how he replaced Brock.
Tracey's only around in the Orange Islands, though I agree that it was stupid to replace Brock.
I don't actually recall much about the anime, since it's been so long for me honestly.
I never had any Gameboy up until the Advance SP with Kingdom Hearts, and got the Ports of Zelda 1 and 2 and also DOOM 1 and 2.
I definitely missed out on playing the older games at the time, If they are worthwhile Gen 2 and 3 I may check them out.
>tfw no ninetails mommy gf
it's already canon in the games that "long ago people and pokemon would get married". They're just finally tapping into it I guess.
Just for you, anon.
WHY IS THIS FUCKING THREAD STILL ALIVE
I should have replied at the time I guess, rather than leave it 13 hours later.
The thread would have died off sooner if you hadn't thrown an autistic fit over the word creepy.
And the world would be a better place without traitors like you, but you don't see me bitch about it.
Ash is way better when you realize that he isn't the MC, he is actually just the rival in his story.
Hold the fuck up. Then what's Gary Oak's role?
To get them Bitches and just taunt Ash.
To job to the League.
>but you don't see me bitch about it
Unlike the past 24 posts you made? :^)
FOREVER UNITED AS ONE
Relativism is inherently self-defeating. It tries to make the philosophical claim that "truth is relative", but that statement itself is objective, not relative. Moral relativism is similarly absurd. It's founded on the idea that culture is the determinant of morality, but culture is too loosely defined for that to possibly be true. Is it the culture of your country? Your race? Your nation? Your city? Your neighborhood? Your family? Yourself alone? Moral relativism can be used to justify any act and slides directly into moral nihilism. Humans can innately recognize good and evil, which is why even atheists struggle so mightily (and without God. futilely) to establish a system of morality.
The idea that Christianity has been undermined by science is a hallmark of (((Scientism))), the religion of pop culture promulgated by the jews. It makes bold claims like "science has disproven God" and "religion and science are opposed". These claims are outright lies. First and foremost, science can never prove or disprove God because it concerns itself with repeatable, natural phenomena. The core of the scientific method is the formulation of a hypothesis about the natural world followed by experimentation that proves or disproves said hypothesis. That method cannot be applied in any conceivable way to test for the existence of a supernatural being, for by its very definition a supernatural being is not a natural phenomenon.
Barring that inanity, though, the most common argument for the existence of opposition between Christianity and science is evolutionary theory. It is proposed that a) evolutionary theory removes the need for a creator and b) is contradictory to the Bible. The first premise is a non-argument. Even if you assume that evolutionary theory is true, it does nothing to explain the origins of our universe, which is a necessary precursor for evolution. The second premise holds marginally more weight in that evolution is nowhere mentioned in the Bible and seems to directly contradict the creation account in Genesis. Some Christians do not find this to be an issue, as they interpret the Genesis creation account in a non-literal fashion. On the other hand, many Christians (including myself) interpret the Genesis account quite literally, and we therefore must reject evolutionary theory. "Aha," you may think, "So science and religion truly are opposed!" On the contrary! Even from the standpoint of science alone, evolutionary science is nearly as unscientific as sociology.
The problems with evolutionary theory run deep; much could be written on this topic, and indeed, much already has. Because I have no desire to reproduce an entire internet's worth of information on this topic, I'll simply make a short list:
>The complete and total unreliability of fossil dating methods, which rely on insane and often circular assumptions
>The inability to prove that one fossilized organism evolved into another
>The absurdity of complex organs being formed in a series of random mutations, when each individual mutation is worthless or even harmful and would not be selected for
>The inability to reproduce abiogenesis in a laboratory
>The continual discoveries concerning the actual uses of "junk DNA" and "vestigial organs", supposedly leftovers from evolution
That's just to get you started. I'm sure you can find more if you look. I'll even give you a link to help you out.
>Those retards in a thread a few days ago saying math was relative
>Scientism is made by jews
Why would the jews promote objective facts anon? You say you are for being objective but you are against literally the only known way of finding an objective answer to things.
>Openly admits he rejects evolution because of the bible
So the big twist was that you were the jewish puppet all along.
>Evolutionary science is unscientific
Nigger, I do research in evolution. I literally see evolution on a daily/weekly basis.
oh cool, a creationist is here to destroy the thread with his immense idiocy.
Scientism and science are not the same thing. Science is a valuable tool for learning about the natural world. Scientism is the philosophical stance (usually taken by people who don't understand philosophy) that science holds the answer even to things beyond its ability to study.
>Christianity is a jewish trick
Anon, this is one of (((their))) most potent D&C tactics. Jews hate Christianity and will do everything in their power to destroy it. The reason they are called kikes is because when they were immigrating to America through Ellis Island they refused to sign the documents with an X because it looked too much like a cross; therefore they signed with a circle instead, which is "kikel" in yiddish. There may be a number of kiked (((preachers))) who teach Zionism, but authentic Christianity is fundamentally opposed to the jews. Jesus himself harshly criticized jewish practices, and the jews are still doing the same things today.
>I literally see evolution on a daily/weekly basis
Oh, fascinating! Tell me about the wealth of new, fundamentally different species you've seen. If you're just going to talk about foxes/dogs/wolves though, don't bother. I already know that animals can vary somewhat, especially when there is artificial breeding. This is not the same thing as Darwinian evolution.
Nice argument. You've really shown me.
I'm not gonna argue with retardation of such immense magnitude. Pic related.
>This is not the same thing as Darwinian evolution
It literally is anon. He specifically describes that in his book
Is only one aspect of evolution and even then is just an emergent property of evolution that makes logical sense. It's literally
>Given enough time two population groups will change to the point where they can no longer reproduce with each other naturally
You can see this in flowers that evolve different flowering times and therefore no longer make with each other. I wont respond to the rest of the random shit you said because you need to be educated.
What are you, a leftist?
>Oh no, somebody disagrees with me!
>I know, I'll just call them an stupid and refuse to address any of their points! Got 'em!
At least the other anon is willing to have a discussion with me. You're just pathetic.
Perhaps I used the term "Darwinian" wrong. If so, forgive me. What I am trying to communicate is this: we have never observed a flower become anything but a flower, a canine become anything but a canine, bacteria becoming anything but bacteria, and so on. I know that a particular type of creature can change over time. What I don't think is well supported by the evidence is the idea that a creature's fundamental type will change along with this natural variation. That is to say, I don't think single celled organisms evolved into fish which evolved into mammals which evolved into apes which evolved into humans, or whatever the current evolutionary chain is supposed to be.
This is a common point of contention between evolutionists and creationists, and often because of misunderstanding. The evolutionist says, "Look, the creationist thinks that species don't change at all in any way ever!" and perhaps in some instances they are right and that particular creationist doesn't know what he is talking about. Any creationist worth his salt, however, is already aware of this, and are instead trying to communicate what I said above.
>I wont respond to the rest of the random shit you said because you need to be educated.
Apparently I need to be (((educated))) because I'm not rabidly anti-Christian? Or is it perhaps because I have a classical understanding of logic and philosophy? Or, wait, is it because I raised other valid criticisms of evolution that you don't have the means to argue against?
>At least the other anon is willing to
have a discussion completely derail and destroy the thread with me
lol, meant to write "an idiot"
>I can't understand how many changes can add up
Are you serious nigger?
Not even counting the fossil record which literally shows that, the fact that there are small changes mean that over time those changes would add up. It would be like saying
>I haven't seen a baby become a full grown man so it doesn't matter that I can measure his growth I don't believe this baby will ever become an adult
Sage for off topic but you can literally learn about this stuff yourself.
it's a slow process. genetically human beings have existed for some two hundred thousand years, and we've only really been paying attention for some small fraction of that.
What makes you think I haven't studied this? The "fossil record" isn't useful as evidence. Yes, we have many fossils of different creatures, but even if you have fossils of two different creatures that are similar, there's no way to prove that creature A evolved into creature B. This is the circular reasoning at play here:
>Creature A must have evolved into Creature B because evolution is true!
>Evolution must be true because we have similar fossils from Creature A and Creature B!
Not to mention the enormous gaps in the "evolutionary chain".
>false equivalency about babies turning into adults
Anon, the key difference here is that this is a process that has been witnessed over and over and over, and doesn't require the creature to mutate into !creature. Evolution from one fundamental type of creature to another has never been witnessed. What makes you so convinced that these changes will eventually "add up" and transform it into something else entirely? Have you heard of regression toward the mean?
See, the idea that humans and the Earth itself are ancient was not only conceived of before any dating methods existed, but the dating methods now used are extremely flawed at best and outright lies at worst. Carbon dating relies on several fatal assumptions, most importantly that the amount of Carbon-14 in a sample didn't change for any reason except radioactive decay. The "layers" method of dating is downright circular: they date the fossils by the layer they're found in, but they date the layer by the fossils that are found in it. Not only that, but it's not uncommon for a fossil or artifact to be found in the 'wrong' layer at which point they simply give it an arbitrary date that better fits the existing theories.
>evidence has to be visually provable
I'm sorry the entire field of chemistry and quantum mechanics is now wrong according to you.
>What makes you convinced that changes will eventually add up
Because they do. Changes add up and thats known and provable and you can see it. For some reason you think that just because you can't live long enough to see more changes that somehow all changes will just stop. Also the "Gaps" in the fossil record is a non argument. It's also not circular argument because we know evolution happens, again we can see it, the fossil record shows the evolution for things we weren't alive to witness our selves. I really can't understand how this isn't basic logic to you?
>It is a process that has been witnessed
So is evolution. For some reason you think it evolution just stops when you stop looking at it. We know it happens, we can see it happen all the time and we can conclude that it has and will continue to happen with evolution being shown in fossils to show that it has happened in the past but we don't even need that since it's proven without it, all fossils do is show how it happened.
the timeline of modern humans isn't based purely on carbondating methods, but a number of things including location, morphology, tools found, etc.
if you're going to just start rejecting any science that doesn't agree with your ideas, you're no longer talking sense.
Nice straw man.
Small changes within a type of creature are proven; flowers turning into !flowers or bacteria turning into !bacteria isn't proven. It is a faulty leap of logic to assume that because there are some changes over time it will eventually morph into an entirely different type of creature. Of course they will continue to change even when we're not watching, but all we know for sure is that they will change within their type; the flower will better adapt itself to its environment while remaining a flower, and same with the bacteria. To conclude anything more than that is not sound logic.
You'll note that I didn't only criticize carbon dating methods. In reality there are no reliable dating methods. At best we can make educated guesses. I am 100% an advocate of science; what I am not an advocate of is propaganda masquerading as science. See: (((global warming))). If I thought evolutionary theory was scientifically sound I would believe it.
>he denies global warming too
Holy fucking shit. You just think releasing thousands of times the normal CO2 output is just gonna do nothing?
>thousands of times the normal co2
>It's also not circular argument because we know evolution happens, again we can see it, the fossil record shows the evolution for things we weren't alive to witness our selves.
You do know that every single ancient culture on record as talked about how they lived alongside dinosaurs, right? The Bible has the leviathan and the behemoth, the Chinese and the English have their dragons, the American-Indians habe the thunderbird, and so on.
To rerepost something GG dug up (This is a long one, strap in):
1) Demonstrate “climate change” is real.
No problem there! There is plenty of geological evidence that the Earth has been much warmer for most of its existence. The Jurassic period, for example, was quite a bit warmer than today. In fact, there have only been a few colder times in Earth’s history compared to today. And ‘climate’, in the strictest sense, changes daily.
2) Demonstrate that “climate change” is manmade.
This is tougher, since we already know for a fact that the Earth has been through far warmer periods before man ever showed up. Indeed, evidence is mounting that an increase in CO2 is causing less extreme weather, not more.
3) Demonstrate that any changes, regardless of origin, happening now are man-reversible.
Good luck with that.
4) Demonstrate that they can be reversed, primarily, by crippling the American economy in particular, while nations like China and India continue polluting the planet at record rates.
And that’s where you lose your audience.
Yes, climate changes. But there is absolutely no evidence that humans are having any impact on the climate whatsoever. In order to establish an actual human impact in a statistically significant way, you must show a modern trend that deviates from a baseline of appropriate duration. Because geologic processes spanning millions of years are responsible for tremendous amounts of variation in global temperatures, an appropriate baseline must necessarily include millions of years of data to account for this variation. Not only are we not in a period of “record high temperatures,” we are in one of the coldest periods in the past 65 million years.
There is absolutely no evidence that current temperatures are outside the trend of totally natural variation, and all attempts to make it appear that way are misleading you by truncating the data to a sample of statistically insignificant size. And then they apply their misleading, exponential curve-fits and smoothing effects for dramatic purposes. The earth had had ice caps for maybe about half of the time over the past 500 million years. The picture shows rapid periods of melting and re-glaciation over periods of a few thousand years. There is nothing abnormal about current melting rates.
The sea level has been rising at a very steady and predictable rate over the past 8-10,000 years since the emergence from the last major glacial period with no deviation at all from this trend even as humans began industrializing. When environmentalists show you graphs going back 50-100 years of rising sea level data, they omit the fact that this is both on-trend and completely expected.
We have no actual data that indicates that climate is in any way behaving abnormally, much less due to human impact. The only thing we have is a hypothesis that CO2 affects climate in a meaningful way, which is what climatologists attempt to model. But those models make terrible predictions.
If your hypothesis consistently churns out inaccurate predictions–no matter how many times you tweak the knobs and change little fudge-factors here and there–then your hypothesis is shit and must be discarded. Morons who believe in this garbage have no understanding of basic epistemology, let alone science–and that goes for the so-called “scientists” peddling this mystical bullshit.
CO2 is only hypothesized to have the impact on global climate that the alarmists claim. But this has failed to be demonstrated in two major (but related) ways. First, carbon dioxide levels are currently being measured at several hundred ppm higher than measured from ice core samples. Now, it must also be cautioned that you can’t necessarily compare these two sets of data because they represent two different methods of measurement, and have other potential biases. However, even assuming that its true that CO2 levels are much higher–and that they’re caused by human activity–current temperatures are not deviating from the normal historical trends in line with CO2.
A doubling of preindustrial CO2, absent any feedbacks, would result in a maximum forcing of +1.2 ºC. Everyone agrees on this point because it’s a simple computation given the physical characteristics of CO2 which is well mixed in the atmosphere. Actual warming, again absent feedbacks, would likely be much less due to bandwidth overlap between CO2 and H2O, something that we understand but find difficult to model (H2O levels vary dramatically day to day and even hour to hour with regional weather).
The General Circulation Models, and the IPCC, predict 2-8 ºC of warming because AGW theory assumes a positive H2O feedback. They assume that if CO2 causes a little warming, the atmosphere will hold more water vapor which will lead to a lot of warming until a new equilibrium point is reached. The warming predictions cover such a large range because everyone assumes a different average feedback rate. Again, modeling H2O in the atmosphere is extremely difficult because it varies so much with weather. Every GCM based on this assumption has failed to model temperatures for the past 15 years. They are all trending too high. In the late 1990s, the modelers themselves stated that if they missed their predictions for more then a decade that would falsify AGW theory.
There is no data to suggest a positive H2O feedback either now or in Earth’s past. Indeed, we cannot model some periods in Earth’s history with an assumed positive H2O feedback. It would appear that Earth’s atmosphere is remarkably adept at dampening forcings from either direction and does not amplify them. If there is no positive H2O feedback, we literally have nothing to worry about. The average climate change believer knows none of this. Politicians, citizens, activists, and surprisingly even a lot of scientists are literally ignorant of the theory and the math. In their mind, it’s simply “CO2 = bad” and “experts say we’re warming faster then ever.” The more you know.
Not only are current temperatures not outside the normal trend, we are in one of the coldest periods in the past 65 million years. Also, current temperatures (at the peak of the current 100ky cycle) are actually lower than past 100ky cycles, meaning that we are expected to either warm further just by way of natural variation or we are in an unusually cold peak period.
Second, climate models that use CO2 as a major driver for global temperatures are not producing accurate predictions for global temperatures. This is at least good initial evidence that the alarmist stance on the CO2/climate hypothesis is false. Notice that current temperatures are in no way deviating from normal trends. and that the two “scary red dots” are not observed data, but “predictions.” But, as we already know, the observed data is wildly lower than the predictions. These people are completely full of shit.
When glaciers recede, it’s called “calving”, and it is considered a normal process of climate. Sea levels have been declining recently. (search NOAA’s database to verify for yourself)
During the last ice age, sea levels were ~375 feet lower than today. During the last ice age, the Jersey Shore was 100 miles further east.
Ice ages return like clockwork throughout Earth’s history. It’s called the Milankovitch cycle. What are signs that an ice age is starting? Simple; it’s a mark of weather “extremes.” It’s important to note that during last ice age, temperatures around the global weren’t too much colder then they are today. Example:
1) Seattle was covered with 4000 feet of ice, however ice only went as far south as Olympia. If you went 150 miles south of Olympia, temperatures were 7 degrees lower then they are today.
2) Temperatures in the tropics were 2 to 3 degrees lower then today.
3) Temperatures in the subtropics were nearly the same.
4) Chicago was covered in ice, however South Carolina was probably only 2-3 degrees lower than today.
Yellowstone is a supervolcano that erupts every ~600,000 years. The last eruption was ~640,000 years ago. We are overdue for one. If Yellowstone goes off, we would be in an ice age in 3 months.
One of the signs of an oncoming ice age was increased volcanic activity. In the previous ice age, called the “Younger Dryas,” we found mammoths with 3 feet of volcanic ash on them. 40% of all mammals where wiped out in that Ice Age. If volcanic activity keeps increasing on Earth, that is a warning sign an ice age is imminent. Interesting Note: Some mammoths remains were found still standing up. The conclusion was that giant snow/ice storms covered them up.
It takes 100 feet of snow to compact to create 1 foot of ice. It would take 80 feet of snow per year for 5000 years to get 400 feet of ice in Seattle.
Snowblitz is a term for the continuous accumulation of snow, which happens in ice age conditions. https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/frozen-in-time/the-snowblitz/ ~11,500 years ago, something happened which caused the ‘Carolina Bay’ and magnetic reversal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Bay
In 1600, the “Maunder Minimum” happened when there weren’t any sunspots. Sunspots affect the amount of radiant energy hitting Earth. Less energy means the climate gets cold. The Maunder Minimum resulted in a little ice age across the globe. Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov–the chief astrophysics responsible for the Russian portion of the International Space Station–says we are heading for a little ice age.
In the 1980s and ’90s, the Sun was the most active in a thousand years. Now the Sun is becoming less active. Does it take thousands of years for ice ages to start? No. Research project “GRIP” (Greenland Ice Project) drilled ice cores (2 miles down, 4 inches in diameter). They discovered that every single ice age from the past 250,000 years, without exception, began in less then twenty years. Ice ages swing from normal temperatures to full blown glaciation.
Literally what determines a flower and bacteria are our own definition. If for some reason we decided to consider something no longer a flower than it wouldn't be.
>There are no reliable dating methods
This is objectively false. Radioactive dating is so easy high school students literally learn how to do it.
>Every single ancient culture on record talked about living alongside dinosaurs right
That never happened, stop reading your stupid christ centered news sites.
In the end literally what you don't understand is that small changes over time = big changes. If I were to randomly change parts of a lego sculpture I built it would eventually be a completely new sculpture.
Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-mails
A few days after leaked e-mail messages appeared on the Internet, the US Congress may probe whether prominent scientists who are advocates of global warming theories misrepresented the truth about climate change.
Senator James Inhofe, an Oklahoma Republican, said on Monday the leaked correspondence suggested researchers “cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not.” According to a transcript of a radio interview posted on his website, Aides for Representative Darrell Issa, a California Republican, are also looking into the disclosure.
The leaked documents come from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in eastern England. In global warming circles, the CRU wields outsize influence: it claims the world’s largest temperature data set, and its work and mathematical models were incorporated into the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s 2007 report. That report, in turn, is what the Environmental Protection Agency acknowledged it “relies on most heavily” when concluding that CO2 emissions endanger public health and should be regulated.
Last week’s leaked e-mails range from innocuous to embarrassing and, critics believe, scandalous. They show that some of the field’s most prominent scientists were so wedded to theories of manmade global warming that they ridiculed dissenters who asked for copies of their data (“have to respond to more crap criticisms from the idiots”), cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists, and plotted how to keep researchers who reached different conclusions from publishing in peer-reviewed journals.
One e-mail message, apparently from CRU director Phil Jones, references the UK’s Freedom of Information Act when asking another researcher to delete correspondence that might be disclosed in response to public records law: “Can you delete any e-mails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise.”
Another, also apparently from Jones: global warming skeptics “have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than send to anyone.” (Jones was a contributing author to the chapter of the UN’s IPCC report titled Detection of Climate Change and Attribution of Causes.)
In addition to e-mail messages, the roughly 3,600 leaked documents posted on sites including Wikileaks.org and EastAngliaEmails.com include computer code and a description of how an unfortunate programmer named “Harry”–possibly the CRU’s Ian “Harry” Harris–was tasked with resuscitating and updating a key temperature database that proved to be “problematic.” Some excerpts from what appear to be his notes, emphasis added.
I am seriously worried that our flagship gridded data product is produced by Delaunay triangulation - apparently linear as well. As far as I can see, this renders the station counts totally meaningless. It also means that we cannot say exactly how the gridded data is arrived at from a statistical perspective–since we’re using an off-the-shelf product that isn’t documented sufficiently to say that. Why this wasn’t coded up in Fortran I don’t know–time pressures, perhaps? Was too much effort expended on homogenization that there wasn’t enough time to write a gridding procedure? Of course, it’s too late for me to fix it, too. Meh.
I am very sorry to report that the rest of the databases seem to be in nearly as poor a state as Australia was. There are hundreds if not thousands of pairs of dummy stations, one with no WMO and one with, usually overlapping and with the same station name and very similar coordinates. I know it could be old and new stations, but why such large overlaps if that’s the case? Aarrggghhh! There truly is no end in sight… So, we can have a proper result, but only by including a load of garbage!
One thing that’s unsettling is that many of the assigned WMO codes for Canadian stations do not return any hits with a web search. Usually the country’s met office, or at least the Weather Underground, show up–but for these stations, nothing at all. Makes me wonder if these are long-discontinued, or were even invented somewhere other than Canada!
Knowing how long it takes to debug this suite–the experiment endeth here. The option (like all the anomdtb options) is totally undocumented so we’ll never know what we lost. 22. Right, time to stop pussyfooting around the niceties of Tim’s labyrinthine software suites–let’s have a go at producing CRU TS 3.o! since failing to do that will be the definitive failure of the entire project.
Ulp! I am seriously close to giving up, again. The history of this is so complex that I can’t get far enough into it before by head hurts and I have to stop. Each parameter has a tortuous history of manual and semi-automated interventions that I simply cannot just go back to early versions and run the update prog. I could be throwing away all kinds of corrections - to lat/lons, to WMOs (yes!), and more. So what the hell can I do about all these duplicate stations?
As the leaked messages, and especially the HARRY READ_ME.txt file, found their way around technical circles, two things happened: first, programmers unaffiliated with East Anglia started taking a close look at the quality of the CRU’s code, and second, they began to feel sympathetic for anyone who had to spend three years (including working weekends) trying to make sense of code that appeared to be undocumented and buggy, while representing the core of CRU’s climate model.
One programmer highlighted the error of relying on computer code that, if it generates an error message, continues as if nothing untoward ever occurred. Another debugged the code by pointing out why the output of a calculation that should always generate a positive number was incorrectly generating a negative one. A third concluded: “I feel for this guy. He’s obviously spent years trying to get data from undocumented and completely messy sources.”
Programmer-written comments inserted into CRU’s Fortran code have drawn fire as well. The file briffa_sep98_d.pro says: “Apply a VERY ARTIFICIAL correction for decline!!” and “APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION.” Another, quantify_tsdcal.pro, says: “Low pass filtering at century and longer time scales never gets rid of the trend–so eventually I start to scale down the 120-yr low pass time series to mimic the effect of removing/adding longer time scales!”
It’s not clear how the files were leaked. One theory says that a malicious hacker slipped into East Anglia’s network and snatched thousands of documents. Another says that the files had already been assembled in response to a Freedom of Information request and, immediately after it was denied, a whistleblower decided to disclose them. (Lending credence to that theory is the fact that no personal e-mail messages unrelated to climate change appear to have been leaked.)
For its part, the University of East Anglia has posted a statement calling the disclosure “mischievous” and saying it is aiding the police in an investigation.
The statement also quotes Jones, CRU’s director, explaining his November 1999 e-mail, which said: “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.” Jones said that the word trick was used “colloquially as in a clever thing to do” and that it “is ludicrous to suggest that it refers to anything untoward.”
Second part meant for >>13799494
Who is literally retarded.
Also unclear is the ultimate impact of the leak, which came before next month’s Copenhagen summit and Democratic plans for cap and trade legislation.
On one hand, over at RealClimate.org, Gavin Schmidt, a modeler for the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has been downplaying the leak. Schmidt wrote: “There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research… no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords.”
On the other, groups like the free-market Competitive Enterprise Institute, the target of repeated derision in the leaked e-mails, have said: “We have argued for many years that much of the scientific case for global warming alarmism was weak and some of it was phony. It now looks like a lot of it may be phony.”
ScienceMag.org published an article noting that deleting e-mail messages to hide them from a FOI request is a crime in the United Kingdom. George Monbiot, a UK activist and journalist who previously called for dramatic action to deal with global warming, wrote: “It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging.”
Complicating matters for congressional Republicans who’d like to hold hearings is that East Anglia, of course, is a UK university. The GOP may intend to press the Obama administration for details on how the EPA came to rely on the CRU’s predictions, and whether the recent disclosure will change the agency’s position. Another approach lies in e-mail messages discussing grants from the US Commerce Department’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to East Anglia; one says: “We need to show some left to cover the costs of the trip Roger didn’t make and also the fees/equipment/computer money we haven’t spent otherwise NOAA will be suspicious.”
The irony of this situation is that most of us expect science to be conducted in the open, without unpublished secret data, hidden agendas, and computer programs of dubious reliability. East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit might have avoided this snafu by publicly disclosing as much as possible at every step of the way.
Land “readings” are [diverging](http://i.imgur.com/8RwdDFT.png) from satellite data (which [NASA itself says is accurate](http://i.imgur.com/OISZ078.png) and should be the standard instead) because over 40% of land “readings” are estimates made for places *without recording equipment.* To illustratively do something that the psychopaths love to do, I’ll cherrypick the last 20 years to show that there has [been no warming there](http://i.imgur.com/S4Kgh4k.gif), despite CO2 continuing to rise. Even using [just the satellite record](http://i.imgur.com/IF42Uf2.gif), the world isn’t warming. If we refer back to one of the hottest years in recorded history, [we see the difference.](http://i.imgur.com/4HWcKSz.gif) Never mind that there have [only been ecological benefits to rising CO2](http://www.edsanders.com/global/c02up2.htm).
>“Waaaaa! What about the ice caps!”
They’re not melting. They go through [cycles](http://i.imgur.com/px9Zr2X.jpg). 1974 had [less ice](http://i.imgur.com/ShRXILK.png) than today. Oh, and don’t listen to what [scientists](http://i.imgur.com/kMGh1nT.gif) say, [whatever you do](http://i.imgur.com/14m2Ix8.gif). Nowhere is melting out of turn, not even Greenland (where it has been [growing](http://beta.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/) for something like 30 years). Oh, and the ice cores themselves? [They show that the past was hotter.](https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_07.pdf)
>“But the sea level is rising!”
It has been rising for 13,000 years. In that time, it has never risen more slowly than right now. Were our ancestors belching out CO2 faster than we were? Maybe they were farting a lot more. It’s rising more slowly than at any time in that history, and it’s also rising more slowly than [any claim](http://i.imgur.com/bNUCnvg.gif) made public by any outlet. [Here’s the source data](ftp://ftp.marine.csiro.au/pub/legresy/church_white_gmsl_2011_tg_list.zip) for that chart. It’s an FTP link, so it should automatically download the raw file (which you don’t need to worry about, as it’s a bunch of undifferentiated numbers). Turns out that [NOAA](http://i.imgur.com/H1JISaD.gif) marks the average as 0.63 mm per year. Not 3.3. Not 2.8. Certainly not a foot per year, which is needed for the most modern public “predictions” about this bullshit.
>“But ocean acidity!”
Guess what? [It’s also cyclical.](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272771410002167)
>“Okay, not ice caps, but what about the glaciers?”
[They’ve been melting since at least the 1780s](http://i.imgur.com/UGMfILq.gif) when we started measuring them. I also have information for the Alps and other areas. Was our pre-industrial civilization responsible for “greenhouse gases” too? (There were no glaciers in Europe in the Middle Ages.](http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/94383187) That’s called the Medieval Warm Period, something your “scientists” have been trying to erase from the record for decades (ironically, since, 1984) because it goes against their narrative. Gee, we must have had even more factories then than we do now… right?
>“But but but but but but but but muh consensus! They agree! Because I say they do! That makes what they say true!”
[Sorry, there never was any consensus.](http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/97_Consensus_Myth.pdf)
>Humans and Dinosaurs lived together
You can copy pasta as much a stuff as you want but that won't make you not wrong and not retarded.
>“Then why don’t climate change deniers publish papers?”
[Because they do](http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html) (and because [papers often aren’t published](http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12129-009-9149-z) because the publishing groups are owned by AGW liars).
>”So what the hell is this all about?”
The [purposeful destruction](https://archive.is/i29K7) of the [economy and infrastructure](https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/ipcc-official-“climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth”/) of the Western world and [only the Western world](https://www.rt.com/news/256861-climate-change-un-hoax/).
*[None of the data](http://i.imgur.com/Yyx254S.gif)* *supports the existence of AGW.*
>“WAA! IT’S ONLY UNITED STATES TEMPERATURES!”
Because there is no other record of meaningful scientific value anywhere. Only the United States (and parts of Japan) has [a temperature record that has been around long enough](https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/McKitrickCriticalGHCNReview.pdf) for climatological statements can be based on it. The GHCND set of stations has slowly been closed down… and what’s this! The stations being closed down ARE FAR FROM THE EQUATOR. What does that mean? The average latitude of GHCND stations IS [FIFTEEN FUCKING DEGREES](http://i.imgur.com/yvuGBwi.gif) CLOSER TO THE EQUATOR than it used to be. Do you imagine that might raise temperatures? If you answer no, don’t bother answering in the first place.
The United States has a network of [1200+ USHCN stations](http://i.imgur.com/lX30V8X.gif) with data going back to 1895 and earlier. The raw USHCN temperature record shows that there has been a slight cooling since 1920 (see above). USHCN is a subset of GHCND (Global Historical Climatology Network Daily.) Cooling doesn’t suit the needs of your masters, so [they cherrypicked a small subset of GHCND stations](http://i.imgur.com/zUywF21.gif) (which show a large amount of warming since 1920) for use in the global GSN temperature record.
So let’s stop this madness, right? What happens when we take data from [SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND SOURCES?](http://i.imgur.com/WxjeGtP.gif) That is, 1. stations active for a long time and 2. stations that don’t move (meaning keeping the same latitude). We see what I said above. [NO. FUCKING. WARMING.](http://i.imgur.com/sk2JZuI.gif)
At the very best (for your delusions), you (meaning your own authorities) can say that [there has been zero change since modern recordings began.](https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/sar/wg_I/ipcc_sar_wg_I_full_report.pdf) Your bastard king himself, James Hansen, [ADMITTED TO THIS.](https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/)
The Earth has gone through periods of ice ages, naturally there will be periods complete opposite of such. That it is trending hotter at a particular moment isn't a convincing argument.
>"WAAAAAA THE DOCUMENT ENDS IN 1995!"
And yet there has been [zero](http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1990) warming [SINCE THEN](http://i.imgur.com/0N7BEg4.gif), too, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.
Funny how sea level is identical to 1870 and 1901, huh? ([La Jolla](http://i.imgur.com/Gkw4yCG.gif) and [La Jolla](http://i.imgur.com/M1D5yMu.jpg); [Sydney](http://i.imgur.com/beYZsdR.gif) and [Sydney](http://i.imgur.com/ecilgkv.gif), respectively)? Funny how [all the gauges](https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/mslGlobalTrendsTable.htm) show [a 0.63mm/yr rise](http://i.imgur.com/TS4MYXU.gif) (which, again, is smaller than at any time in the last 11,000 years). Not 3.3. Not 2.6. Not 1.4. Certainly not “a meter by 2050.”
>“But weather is becoming more extreme!”
Nah, less. Universally. What’s more, do you imagine? Not [fires](https://www.fs.fed.us/research/sustain/criteria-indicators/indicators/indicator-316.php). [Ha](http://i.imgur.com/hrnfDBC.jpg)! Not [floods](https://water.usgs.gov/floods/events/2015/Joaquin/HolmesQA.html).
>USGS research has shown no linkage between flooding (either increases or decreases) and the increase in greenhouse gases. Essentially, from USGS long-term streamgage data for sites across the country with no regulation or other changes to the watershed that could influence the streamflow, the data shows no systematic increases in flooding through time.
Not [tornadoes](http://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/). Five (nearly six now) consecutive [years](http://i.imgur.com/cYdfjJP.png) of below average events. Not [hurricanes](http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html). Every [single](http://i.imgur.com/MeTkQa8.png) indicator [shows](http://i.imgur.com/jdS93uF.png) they’re not only becoming [less frequent](http://i.imgur.com/0TCxneE.png), but also less powerful. Not even [drought](http://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01/30/graphic-californias-droughts-in-the-past-1200-years/). [Hilarious](http://i.imgur.com/Xuq8mo6.gif)! So what is it? What’s worse? Tell us. Is it anything at all? Anywhere? At any time? No. Of course, [this has been](http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1298497) known for [a while](http://i.imgur.com/0Vahnon.gif). It’s [global cooling’s](http://i.imgur.com/LBAGLs4.gif) fault, [after](http://i.imgur.com/94wMMS3.jpg) all! [Oh, wait…](http://i.imgur.com/rTKiP7j.gif) NOAA [wouldn’t](http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1981/11/25/page/27/article/perspective/) want you to [hear this](https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19790311&id=tIwyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JecFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6679,1789504&hl=en) now, would they?
You could have just posted Webms of the Flintstones and it would have been just as convincing of Dino/human living together.
I just love being copypastaed at. To go through some of this
>No problem there! There is plenty of geological evidence that the Earth has been much warmer for most of its existence. The Jurassic period, for example, was quite a bit warmer than today. In fact, there have only been a few colder times in Earth’s history compared to today. And ‘climate’, in the strictest sense, changes daily.
<actually going with climate changes daily
You are stupid beyond belief, climate is not weather you faggot. And natural variation does happen, and more extremely than what we've made so far, doesn't mean nothing is happening.
>This is tougher, since we already know for a fact that the Earth has been through far warmer periods before man ever showed up. Indeed, evidence is mounting that an increase in CO2 is causing less extreme weather, not more.
Just because we've had worse climate before doesn't mean we aren't doing anything, christ. And where did you get this evidence huh? That ever so fickle geologic record you keep bitching about? Seems like you need to get some facts straight.
>Demonstrate that any changes, regardless of origin, happening now are man-reversible.
NIGGER THAT IS THE PROBLEM, IT MAY NOT BE SO WE SHOULD STOP IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS
>Demonstrate that they can be reversed, primarily, by crippling the American economy in particular, while nations like China and India continue polluting the planet at record rates.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE ECONOMY NIGGER, CHINA IS FAR MORE AT FAULT THAN ANYONE ELSE, BUT THE ORIGIN DOESN'T MATTER
If your neighbor is smoking and you get cancer from the secondhand smoke, are you just gonna fucking take that?
Nigger, you are replying to someone who literally believes humans and Dinosaurs lived side by side a few thousand years ago. Do you honestly believe you can say anything that will convince him about the matters of science?
This is a perfect example of how silly relativism is. Even were we to stop calling a flower a flower, the plant that we now call a flower would still have the same properties. Calling it something else doesn't change what it is. To quote Shakespeare,
>A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
Radiometric dating relies on assuming how much radioactive material was in the sample to begin with, something that you literally cannot know with certainty. Scientists regularly throw out the dates provided by such methods because they don't fit the "established" timeline.
>small changes over time = big changes
Not if those small changes are routinely discarded. Even according to evolutionary theory, most mutations don't stick because they're not beneficial. You are making an assumption.
Why do you find this so absurd, anon? I'll tell you why. It's a conditioned response. We are taught evolutionary theory and a prehistoric dinosaur extinction by the (((school system))) from early childhood onwards. There is nothing innately illogical or incomprehensible about humans and dinosaurs having lived at the same time; you just can't accept it because you have been taught the opposite for your entire life.
I think you missed the fact that the beginning of the copypasta is quoting the (((global warming))) propagandists and is not that anon's personal opinion. Beyond that, he is completely correct. The predictions ((((global warming alarmists))) have been making have been wrong for literally decades. They even renamed the issue (((climate change))) because they were so demonstrably wrong, not that it kept them from agitating for less CO2 emissions. The supposed consensus among climatologists is an enormous lie, and if you look up their actual conclusions most will say that they can't conclude anything about the origins of climate change because there are too many variables.
Phew. I did actually want to play some vidya this evening, so I probably won't respond as much anymore. Good chatting with you anons.
>Throw out the dates because they don't fit
No they don't.
>Calling it something else doesn't change what it is
You don't get it. If a flower changed then you would call it a flower still because that is the closest thing you know to it. If you never saw a dog before you would just call it a Wolf. The fact that evolution happens slow to the point where you can't witness huge changes in no way disproves it.
>Not if those small changes are discarded
But they aren't.
>Most changes don't stick
Actually most do, it's specifically the ones that are harmful that don't. most mutations aren't helpful are harmful. Learn what genetic Drift it. Even if it were true that most were discarded (again they aren't) that wouldn't mean anything because most does not equal all.
>Why do you call it absurd to think that humans and Dinos lived together
Basic logic and understanding of the world. You are literally worse than Flat earthers if you think the earth is only a few thousand years old. We have trees and tree remains that are older than how long Fundie tards think the earth is old. I can literally use ring dating (a different type of dating that even a child should be understand) to prove that the earth is at least 100k years old.
In fact I could disprove the stupid "discarded" argument by simply looking at the gene pool of a population of flies over a year or two. You can see permanent changes in gene pool make up. Evolution doesn't go fucking backwards.
nice serious discussions about global warming
I'm happy Naruto saved himself from the faggot pile in the end.
>believing in (((Global warming)))
Fuck off back to leftypol you nigger.
>Creature A must have evolved into Creature B because evolution is true!
No, it's "Creature A must have evolved into Creature B because they share many different traits, but Creature A died out while Creature B survived because it was better adapted to its niche." Ever heard of the Galapagos finches?
Hell, have you ever heard of antibiotic resistance? How do you think that happens? Do the bacteria just swim around it by magic? Do they see the antibiotics without eyes? Do they smell it without any sort of olfactory sensors? No, the ones who are vulnerable to the antibiotic die out, and are eventually replaced when a mutation occurs in a cell that allows it to resist the antibiotic. I encourage you to kill yourself at your earliest convenience.
>Not to mention the enormous gaps in the "evolutionary chain".
This just in: records of the past, where there were no sentient beings and preservation was a completely random process, are hard to come by! More at 11!
I bet you can't even state the two words that rebut the mildly fallacious argument above. SHA1 hash: 8c636f7af1d0b62834faedabba34cf2fb460d372