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f18d18 No.14072195

Waiting for "Late January" Edition

Try the game for free forever! (Only up to level 35) - http://www.ffxiv-freetrial.com/us/

Current Patch: 4.18

Patch Archives - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/

Useful resources:

List of Commands (used for macros) - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/win/text_command/

Gamer Escape - http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/

Garland Tools Database - http://www.garlandtools.org/db/

XIV Database - http://xivdb.com/

Ariyala (gear build simulator, hunt tracker, relic light tracker) - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/HuntTracker/Exodus

Mithrie's crafting guides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5lzsYTA3I&index=4&list=PLbE_CU9Jt_uc0MAfIOY8JqtN5PyPO83Q5

>Don't know what to do pre-70?

1. If you're brand new, do Hall of the Novice. It's stupid and only teaches you common sense stuff, but you get a 30% exp boosting ring and free level 15 gear.

2. Do all of your Main Story Quests - REQUIRED FOR ACCESS TO BOTH HEAVENSWARD AND STORMBLOOD AREAS

3. Do all of your class quests and get yourself a job - http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Category:Jobs

4. Attune to Chocobo Porters (taxi), Aetherytes (teleport) & Aether currents (flight) ASAP - it will save you a lot of time & effort

5. Unlock your challenge log, gives great exp and some gil - http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Rising_to_the_Challenge

6. Do your daily roulettes - all of them are great until 70, except guildhests, which is great until around 40-50

6. Level crafting & gathering - free dosh (Cooking has an amazing crossclass skill at 37 you need to get.)

8. Hit Tab to [I seem to have misplaced my keyboard]

Get a FC, they give bonuses as long as the people in charge aren't retards

You cannot join a FC if you are currently on a free trial account

8ch Free Company is Neo Wheels Order on Exodus (Primal Datacentre), Contact Aloise Nel'hah, Babs Babyface, Mew T'kins, or Shiaia Reingot for an invite. Applications are open as well, so if none are online just leave an application and you'll get in as soon as possible.

There is also a linkshell for all 8ch players on Exodus to congregate, so that people can communicate regardless of what FC they're in or if they're running the free trial. Contact Lyfon Yharnam, Quickscope Easybake, Aloise Nel'hah, Mew T'kins, or Shiaia Reingot for an invite.

572595 No.14072378

File: 98e352e2fbb977c⋯.jpg (141.69 KB, 1816x930, 908:465, 1438310594363.jpg)

is it too early?


f18d18 No.14074077

Has anyone here won the jumbo cactpot? Is it even worth bothering?


686ea2 No.14074092

>>14074077

I got third prize once.

I mean I guess its worth a shot, not much to lose.


686ea2 No.14074141

How is the community on Omega anyway? Been looking to hop server lately.

I know 8ch guilds are usually pretty decent surprisingly, but outside of that little bubble how are the folks?

Are they active?

Is the MB shit?

Any roleplay?

Is it degen ERP shit?

How are statics?


5b8cb4 No.14074217

File: c6a66ebd787c8bf⋯.jpg (317.94 KB, 1200x1188, 100:99, DA_a4skU0AAujx4.jpg)

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, LALAFELL!!!


3b0b59 No.14074236

File: 9d43c97b0b184c3⋯.png (20.58 KB, 116x194, 58:97, 1365825119400.png)

>unsub once the token grind became too much

>started playing more games than I ever did before

>tfw I might just wait to come back for 4.5's story

Is this what it feels like to be free again?

ded game. The playerbase killed it.


c66d73 No.14074816

File: c4e2fa4d356a856⋯.jpg (96.05 KB, 670x748, 335:374, c4e2fa4d356a8564396fc53c78….jpg)

>>14074236

I let my sub lapse whenever the guild dies down between patches because Yoshida is a fucking retard who is so terrified of someone getting informed that they're bad at the game that we still don't have official addons despite it being promised for Heavensward launch.

Also because the GMs are retarded hotpockets and you'll get permabanned for saying anything that can be construed as mean or offensive yet you can speedhack and ability hack all day all night and go years without an infraction. This is why PvP, including the brand new mode, are completely dead. Don't forget the recent drama where the GMs that "can't use outside sources like video evidence of cheating because it can be doctored" recently threatened a JP player with a ban by messaging him on Twitter because he was posting pictures of his in-game character in lewd poses. Not even modded, just wearing in-game costumes.

I fucking hate the people who run this game.


1b5320 No.14075574

File: 1a4f88060100507⋯.png (758.22 KB, 770x742, 55:53, ffxiv_12312017_122606.png)

Remember to log in and get your doggo!


8b0908 No.14075804

File: f3b59f95dbe70f7⋯.jpg (803.5 KB, 1163x1200, 1163:1200, 56468122_p2_master1200.jpg)

where the C@s at?


f18d18 No.14079086

File: ef47e6a3f353cdb⋯.jpg (795.11 KB, 1817x1151, 1817:1151, ffxiv_dx11 2018-01-01 04-1….jpg)

>>14075574

Works pretty well with the Genta/Genji set.


17ff94 No.14079899

>>14074816

To build on this, the fact that the cash shop gets more quality shit in it than the actual game does makes me wonder how the playerbase continues to suck Yoshi's D. The japs are far worse Jews than actual Jews when it comes to a cash shop in a sub game. Whatever I guess


6b2b86 No.14080018

>>14079899

Is chocobo racing still shit? is it still just racing against NPCs?

If I could race against other real people that alone would help me rationalize a resub.


f393db No.14080042

>>14080018

its suppose to que with players over npcs but since there is so few players its almost always npcs


8f2201 No.14080067

POST SEXY CATS


6b2b86 No.14080160

>>14080042

Well the races are over so quick it just feels disjointed interaction wise. It's like party finder. I wish I could limit it to my own server. That way if I find a cool group of players they aren't lost forever to the ether of cross server integration.

I'd happily take a longer queue time while I'm doing my gathering/fate dailies if it meant I could actually meet the people I was doing a dungeon with sometime later.


1b5320 No.14081314

File: 2a4a8dddf46ff6e⋯.png (474.95 KB, 703x404, 703:404, ffxiv_01012018_135801.png)

I made a new friend today, /v/.

_:3_


17f10c No.14081360

Bored as fuck in the game, I don't feel like pugging anymore, don't feel like crafting, fuck it.

>>14074141

Don't come to Omega, just don't.


5eeb92 No.14081423

>>14074816

What did you expect from a company that has sjws in it despite all thje "dark sutff" in the game? I'm glad I killed my sub before the 2nd expansion hit.


55479c No.14081447

File: 8eefb1500731f72⋯.png (2.72 MB, 1300x2800, 13:28, 1463181600535-0.png)

>>14080067

no

we want bunny girls


f9d98e No.14083478

>>14081447

That would also mean bunny boys. The cats are faggy enough as is, those would be even worse. Think of the consequences.


a4f240 No.14083626

To the one first-time tank who stood there and listened to my entire explanation of the Sohm Al boss mechanics, then proceeded to screw every single one up, including killing me with a Comet for good measure:

Thanks for the commendation, idiot. I'm amazed you figured out the combination of buttons required to pull that off.


f18d18 No.14083645

>>14083626

Welcome to why most folks don't bother explaining shit.


d7e61a No.14083671

File: a7f3ee2d856a6e4⋯.jpg (15.62 KB, 480x262, 240:131, fbd52197de2bac2d434449c911….jpg)

>The elemental converter is now operable!

>Someone immediately activates it


4b8fbf No.14083701

people still play this heap of garbage?


d94e08 No.14083730

>>14072378

Is that a trap?


ea4c4f No.14083811

File: 9f8ed9e00141435⋯.jpg (106.59 KB, 839x720, 839:720, fang6e.jpg)

>healslut

>doing Navel trial for the first time

>everyone runs to the edge

>okay whatever probably an AoE thing

>AoE comes and goes, continue

>everyone runs to the edge again

>hold on this AoE looks different, maybe the edge is g-

>realize I'm probably standing a bit too far

>too late

>the others were all so high level they finish the trial from like 50% without a healer

>get a commendation

t-thanks


a742aa No.14083832

>>14083811

It's a very awkward AoE marker for what it's trying to convey, in all honesty. Standardized, the outside ring would probably be doing a normal AoE flash while the center of the battlefield would be radiating the pulsating "wave" marker of an attack that does less damage the further away you are from it.


a742aa No.14083840

>>14080160

>It's like party finder. I wish I could limit it to my own server.

I'm going to assume you meant "Duty Finder" because you CAN restrict party finder to just your server.

>That way if I find a cool group of players they aren't lost forever to the ether of cross server integration.

Your contacts list allows you to send friend requests to people you have played with recently cross server. You are also able to send cross server friends tells.


e556eb No.14083873

>>14072195

Is it a good time to start playing? A lot of MMOs become pretty uninviting to beginners after a while (wakfu for example).


f18d18 No.14083883

>>14083873

A lot of stuff got simplified with the release of the last expansion, and the community is pretty good - if you have a question and ask it, or ask for a rundown of mechanics you'll pretty much never be mocked for it.

Biggest downside is the first 30 levels along with a section of the level 50 quests are pretty bad - they're quite fetch-y.


6da89e No.14084447

>>14083873

Not really? Balance is meh as usual, but the annoyance of rampant hacking that the GMs refuse to do anything about is worse than it's ever been.

They know leveling is so bad they offer a jump potion so let that sink in.


4bcce6 No.14084861

>>14084447

They offer levelling potions because lazy faggots and whales will buy them


f9d98e No.14085498

File: 0989e121537b0c1⋯.png (253.86 KB, 649x538, 649:538, Bigfatcattats.png)


6b2b86 No.14085611

>>14083840

It's been a while since I picked it up. The last time I did they introduced a number of new UI shit that just turned me off. Glad I hadn't resubbed was merely playing a "free week" from a friend.

>Your contacts list allows you to send friend requests to people you have played with recently cross server.

Yea but unless you transfer to their sever you can't really hang out with them.

>I'm going to assume you meant "Duty Finder" because you CAN restrict party finder to just your server.

Does anyone actually use party finder?


d7e61a No.14085734

File: 1cf569d99eb4a23⋯.png (18.47 KB, 584x33, 584:33, Your very own mentally ill….png)

File: 52dfb8452062358⋯.png (14.03 KB, 416x40, 52:5, r9k.png)

File: 07fc82df20524c7⋯.png (19.18 KB, 604x34, 302:17, LGTBBQ static.png)

File: dc4a43bbd51b5e7⋯.png (9.9 KB, 304x34, 152:17, Healslut.png)

>>14085611

>Does anyone actually use party finder?

:^)


f9d98e No.14086112

File: 40a4b1da0fce992⋯.jpg (15.83 KB, 781x49, 781:49, degeneracy.jpg)

File: 636145be9f0a27f⋯.jpg (285.36 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 1503248773499.jpg)


d7e3c9 No.14086120

File: 633cda21536caf9⋯.png (268.06 KB, 640x864, 20:27, Manderviled.png)

>>14083873

SB dumbed down alot of classes with the knock on effect that most jobs now don't feel complete till you hit 65ish or 70 but XIV is really friendly towards beginners and the community won't mind newfags and will explain mechanics if you ask provided you aren't 100% retarded.

You can also swap jobs on the fly and gain an exp bonus for all classes under your highest leveled class so if you don't like your current job you can swap to another instead.

If you are on the fence you could just buy ARR to see if it clicks with you as you have to finish the story to even access the later expansions unless you want to be scab lizards that badly anyway.

Just remember if you see someone with a crown next to there name, take everything they say with a huge grain of salt as they tend to be shitters of the highest tier.

>>14083645

>Join DF

>Autism Vale

>Ninja keeps using Katon on single targets and standing in the gold dot

>Point this out and give some tips

>"I know how to play my job"

>Get to boss

>Doesn't eat fruit and dies

>Tank is retarded and does the same

>Wipe and they both instantly leave

I never speak unless its in party finder. You try to help people who are clearly shit and they take it as an insult.


47c164 No.14086145

File: 370062ac27228af⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 574.13 KB, 1011x808, 1011:808, Cattats.png)


812ac2 No.14086169

>>14075804

nice c@

>>14083478

>bunny boys

top cute tbh

>>14086112

/cuteboys/ guild when? :^)


f9d98e No.14087138

File: cb91e018eccdab0⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 2.49 MB, 1920x1083, 640:361, ffxiv_01012018_211102.png)


d90365 No.14087411

>>14087138

waaaaaait a minute. how do i make this happen? can i make this happen?


7ebfd0 No.14087444

File: 248057bba6af194⋯.jpg (19.35 KB, 415x479, 415:479, 248057bba6af1945e10b7fee65….jpg)

>>14086120

>Just remember if you see someone with a crown next to there name, take everything they say with a huge grain of salt as they tend to be shitters of the highest tier.

That's very dependent on which server they came from. Some servers have nothing but shitter mentors/Novice Network, others actually put the effort in.


7ebfd0 No.14087453

File: 41bb580c4e899c8⋯.jpg (248.94 KB, 654x1000, 327:500, 59937d7d5e77018c30604c3443….jpg)

>>14087411

Goy up and pay for a shitty mod.


f9d98e No.14087463


f9d98e No.14087551

File: da9b0c58ec3e691⋯.png (65.96 KB, 446x401, 446:401, da9b0c58ec3e6914e8e10255c3….png)


d90365 No.14087569

>>14087463

Look me only like 20 mins to find and install the free version. Looking at my character nude in game right now. However, it is only a replacement for the "emporer's new armor" or unarmored look. So I have to glamour that to be nude all the time. Super lame like this.


d90365 No.14087578

>>14087569

I mean, I obviously know this is just a tease to get you to buy it so you can apply it to other armor sets or whatever. But still pretty cool that unarmored is nude now.


d90365 No.14087600

File: 00d220932faf095⋯.png (2.55 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_01022018_210951.png)

>>14087578

>>14087569

Proof if anyone cares. I'll post if I find some way to get around the pay wall.


fc0d0f No.14087613

>>14087600

That's not half bad,now if somebody made some lewd animations that'd be dope.


d90365 No.14087650

>>14087551

This thread actually looks pretty promising. I got the tools for editing outfits and whatnot. It doesn't look too complex to mess around with. I'll post tomorrow if I figure out anything.


f9d98e No.14087663

File: 1317f9efa8c64a8⋯.gif (1.15 MB, 360x360, 1:1, 1317f9efa8c64a808a2b067fbb….gif)

>>14087650

TexTools does look pretty robust, but I have no modeling experience whatsoever. If you find a way to slap the nude mod onto equips please do tell.


43c24d No.14089485

>item to turn housing into item shop at 5 million gil for years

>check today and they are as low as 5000 gil

wha happen?


d7e61a No.14089682

File: 3ebdbfe57cebc0e⋯.jpg (1.18 MB, 3024x4032, 3:4, c02c7a8e2e4cac1ae00df29c95….jpg)

>Buy stuff at beast tribe vendors

>List on the market at ten times what I paid for

>The goyim buy everything


823c4d No.14089815

File: 591f7e98a4fbbbb⋯.jpg (161.91 KB, 898x709, 898:709, 591f7e98a4fbbbbbdb176cc28f….jpg)

Why is Balmung always full and is it shit?


f9d98e No.14089856

File: f8720d9df3a9d3c⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.76 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_12312017_082132.png)

>>14089815

It's the designated roleplaying homo server. If you like being a roleplaying homo, then Balmung is the server for you.. If you don't like being a roleplaying homo, then join a populated server like Leviathan or Gilgamesh instead. If you don't plan on raiding, join a low population preferred server and get comfy. If you like ERP, just fap to your own character and play on a real server instead.


823c4d No.14089923

File: 9c1f3907f77e992⋯.jpg (234.71 KB, 800x1130, 80:113, 9c1f3907f77e992ebaac99ab51….jpg)

>>14089856

So it's complete garbage got it, not paying 18 buckeros to change to that mess. Makes me wonder how it's always full though, do these homos just not log out?

I have some friends who played it and got in on it back when it wasn't so full they eventually dropped the game and we were planing on getting back in, I assume they have no idea what hell they left their characters in.

I've been enjoying the game but boy the main quests from 20-30 are pure suffering.


8f8003 No.14089995

File: 177232ac0cac537⋯.jpg (41.26 KB, 550x512, 275:256, If only you knew.jpg)

>>14089923

> boy the main quests from 20-30 are pure suffering

Just wait till the ARR postgame


6da89e No.14090041

>>14089995

just wait until HW postgame or the start of SB


2a4c02 No.14090056

>>14089923

>I've been enjoying the game but boy the main quests from 20-30 are pure suffering.

You ain't seen nothing yet, nigga.


823c4d No.14090064

File: a51b023b677000c⋯.jpg (90.13 KB, 499x525, 499:525, Really fires up those neur….jpg)

>>14089995

>>14090041

>>14090056

I have no idea why I keep getting into these kinds of games when I have a backlog.


6da89e No.14090076

>>14090064

ARE YOU READY TO GET A CRYSTAL FOR 20 QUESTS BECAUSE THEY KEEP MISUNDERSTANDING WHICH CRYSTAL YOU WANT?


d7e3c9 No.14095010

File: 9f6af427f7db47b⋯.png (6.56 KB, 759x551, 759:551, 1439934392544.png)

>>14089995

>Titan story arc

>ARR post game patches makes you do old dungeons because people were retarded enough to miss them

They really need to go back and cull the main story quests and just turn them into sidequest chains. You could purge half of the main questline and I don't think anyone would notice.


c9da65 No.14098436

So I just returned to the game after like a fucking year or something, cant remember. I got stormblood out of impulse because sales and I see that NWO is ded. All I know is that I need to do my main quest since im only at 58. From what it sounds like it's gonna be a wild ride.

I just wanted a house


ec7b72 No.14098502

File: 2fac36d33f2faa8⋯.jpg (246.28 KB, 720x480, 3:2, trudaeu whm.jpg)

>>14098436

You'd best start saving money then, they'll likely release more at the end of the month.


c9da65 No.14098575

>>14098502

I guess I should start flipping shit in the market again. Also, I dont remember BLM being this hard to play, I mean fuck I can barely survive two mobs attacking me, im so damn squishy.


eaa7dd No.14098583

>>14089923

It's always full because idiots keep like 10 RP alts there.


d57f52 No.14098824

>>14098583

Its literally locked right now so he couldn't pay to transfer anyway.


764999 No.14099260

>>14089856

I don't think this is true anymore. Balmung has been closed off for a while and I've found that a lot of people are flocking to mateus now. I would put mateus as the #1 server for rp followed by balmung. There's no growth on balmung so it's just a bunch of fags with no fresh blood coming in. That's not how you make an active and thriving server much less an rp server.

Not that I care either way. RP fags are the lowest scum on Earth.


710ab6 No.14099285

>>14099260

Mateus has more degenerate erpers than balmung. Just wrap your mind around that one.


c844cf No.14099451

File: 8120bcfc869aa7f⋯.png (6.98 KB, 64x39, 64:39, ClipboardImage.png)

>Getting this fucked by crafting RNG

How the fuck can I get 8 successes in a row but not a single condition change?


764999 No.14102901

>>14099285

Yea this is my point. That mateus has become what balmung was. Balmung had the benefit of people being able to transfer to it so it could still lure in disgusting trannies, furries, etc. Since the closure they have all since piles onto mateus and destroyed a once nice server. I remember when housing on there never filled up and pretty much everyone knew each other. Can't say the same about it now. I've had a lot of people leave my current server in favor of mateus and I just don't see the appeal.


baa857 No.14103908

Any good ENB/sweetfx/reshade worthwhike to use? I started using that Stormshade one and it looks pretty fucking terrible.


d0a943 No.14104295

>>14102901

Do you guys have any idea how hard it is to roleplay a 50 year old man who is forced out of retirement to pay his bills on Balmung.

It's suffering


d7e465 No.14104312

>that feeling when your subs runs out

now I can finally move on with my life


d0a943 No.14104325

>>14104312

Would you like me to buy you another month?

Seriously.


c844cf No.14104731

File: 1af1ffa74414ee4⋯.jpg (221.67 KB, 1160x1656, 145:207, 1af1ffa74414ee45b662da690c….jpg)

>>14104312

>sub runs out

>during a dungeon run

Thank god as the healer was fucking awful.


d7e465 No.14109655

>>14104325

seriously?


3cab1f No.14110823

>get to leveling alchemist 60-70 as my last crafter

>leves are shit for it

>crafting is shit for it

>maybe ill finally farm yellow scripts for crafting

>HQ endgame gear

>always 2 behind the collectible rank on things like molybdenum.

i wish i could get into the crafter/gatherer game but it just feels like so much time for so little output.


84accf No.14117635

Anyone here play on Ultros?


3cab1f No.14124359

>get all gatherers to 70

>buy gear

>down to 28,000 gil to my name

>Still failing to get collectible kopranickel ore to start on yellow scrips.

so what stats am i missing? im at 971 gathering and 895 perception with more than enough gp to do the collectible rotation. Do you need like a solid 1000 gathering?


28ba25 No.14125946

>>14124359

>down to 28k

How much did you have before? With only a little bit of jewry I'm almost to 10 million. If I went "OY VEY" and spent more time studying the markets I could probably rake in even more gil.


3cab1f No.14126457

>>14125946

just buying some rare mats for crafting. its a shame so many monster drops suck. Currently farming 300 amphiptre skins for ALC recipes i'm making for neoshekels and FUCK is it boring. The drop rate is like 2 per minute tops.


93da8a No.14126472

File: 3db2abc8f26aa47⋯.png (1.63 MB, 1206x674, 603:337, ffxiv_01092018_135805.png)

Odin down and I helped :3


d0a943 No.14126489

>>14109655

Yep. Dead serious


28ba25 No.14128514

Can we discuss how shitty the MSQ dungeon has become and how Squeenix still has no plans to fix it?


d78903 No.14129349

>tfw considering resubbing just to continue working on shinryu totems but the fight is in shitter territory


6aaa18 No.14129621

Why is the main quest line so shit? It has every crappy anime cliche with none of the good ones.


f4897e No.14129747

>>14129349

Might be worth looking in something like primal raid network to see if you can find a farm group, the dedicated LFG places are usually a bit better than PF.


f0f8d6 No.14129899

>>14128514

Supposedly the rumor is that in 4.2 every boss gate will keep you out until everyone is done viewing cutscenes


7d65b0 No.14129965

>>14126489

send the code to my email johningrim@gmail.com. I'm using US ffxiv account by the way.


7d65b0 No.14129989

>>14126472

>Aurion Pax

I heard of that name before on this general but I don't know what was it about


d78903 No.14130205

>>14129747

>last post was last sunday

i don't think that will do me much good, but in their defense the game is pretty dead at the moment.


28ba25 No.14130249

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>>14129899

>that only helps the minority of players that still haven't cleared it at least once

What about the majority that wants a fun and compelling raid? Mechanically it's still too piss easy for me to give half a shit about even trying. It's basically a daily token farm for me. I'm not saying to turn it into a coil tier difficulty but at least make it so I can't clear it while I'm half awake and pressing random buttons.

One of my biggest problems (for both parts but particularly part two) is that the gameplay doesn't match the narrative. You're supposed to be facing off against the "ultimate weapon" and it' essentially a joke. It doesn't feel climatic at all. It's a curb stomp every time I've ran the thing.

The running gag I have whenever I start MSQ dungeon is saying "Welcome to MSQ, where the dps is high and the story doesn't matter."


4d416b No.14130329

>>14130249

>making content that's there as a time gate difficult

>especially when everyone so massively out-gears it

>put gates that no one can progress until cut scene watchers are finished.

And watch that queue plummet into 9+ hours because no one wants to watch the two hours of cut scenes across both dungeons.

I don't disagree, I would like a EX version or some shit that basically just boosts it up, but having the version that's required be harder when it's massively irrelevant content is an awful idea.

If SE were to completely gut the story, because lets be honest it doesn't matter at fucking all at this point especially late ARR/ all of HW, I could see it. But as it exists now, all it would do is punish players who want to actually progress in the story.


28ba25 No.14130447

File: e5cbe9fe83922f5⋯.png (154.96 KB, 400x297, 400:297, let me tell you.png)

>>14130329

>making content that's there as a time gate difficult

Maybe it shouldn't be a shitty time gate to begin with. Rebalance the token reward based on player job level or something. They can reuse assets and rebuild and rebalance shit so it's not shitty anymore. I'm not keen on math but I'm sure you could use a simple scaling formula to rebalance the rewards without completely dismantling everything.

>people outgear it

>except everything is supposed to sync'd

>except it's still balanced so poorly the syncing doesn't matter

hmmm… really activates the almonds.

>put gates that no one can progress until cutscene watchers are finished.

I didn't vouch for this. It's slightly "better" for new folks but shitty for repeat runs. Also, it doesn't really address the problems I have with it's current mechanical failings.

My issue is that it's designed the way its right now to encourage people to run it so new folks can enjoy the story. But the reality is no one using the duty finder is going to get any enjoyment out of the MSQ dungeon story because it basically devolves into a speed run with one or two "first timers" and everyone else rushing to the end.

People there for the story get fucked because the gameplay doesn't mesh with the narrative. People playing it for tokens get an unsatisfying grind with rofflestomp bosses. The way it is now no one is getting any good out of it other than tokens and as we've already established, time gates are a shitty mechanism for slowing progression and the less there are the better.

To compound the maddness the whole thing sticks out like a sore thumb because there's nothing else like the MSQ dungeon in HW or SB so it it's a like a cancerous tumor of gameplay that everyone is afraid to excise. The longer they let it fester the worse it's going to get.

It's not like Yoshi has anything better to do. No one likes stormblood anyway. rite?


4d416b No.14130475

>>14130447

you should've finished reading what I typed before you replied because you just angrily agreed with what I said


21560d No.14130487

File: 408c48e21b5a3a1⋯.png (59.97 KB, 325x221, 25:17, 408c48e21b5a3a1d45c23f49ec….png)

>>14129621

Because the script writers have to work around treating a vacant-eyed strawpuppet as a valid entity within the world. While the playerbase parades around thinking the protagonist and the villains they fight is some kind of deep meta commentary on MMOs as a whole.


28ba25 No.14130503

>>14130475

You didn't autisticlly go into enough detail. I need others in the thread to understand the problems you merely glossed over. Thanks for being my foil.

Also, your sentiment seems to be "it's hopeless" whereas I think things can be fixed if the devs would actually do dev shit. No story needs to be gutted. Honestly, I don't have a problem with the story (apart from it being shit overall) unless you're referring to the timegate nature of the MSQ outside the MSQ dungeon itself.

My main issue is the mechanics, both gameply and reward wise that cockblock all of the fun for both newcummers and oldfags to the MSQ dungeon.


4d416b No.14130522

>>14130503

The issue is with the MSQ itself. It's so bloated and the time milking nature of it hampers the game.

And this is SE we're talking about here. the MSQ could be saved if a competent company were to do it, trimming some fat, picking up pacing etc. I could see castrum easily being saved. But as it is the only way for it to exist in a way that'd give everyone what they want is an EX version or something kind of like what they did to coil.

If they want to keep it the way it is, condense the cutscenes down to the end of a dungeon after you leave the portal. It kills flow a little, but at least you get to see the cutscenes without your group abandoning you


28ba25 No.14130614

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>>14130522

>EX version or something like what they did to coil

The problem with this is the new people will have a longer wait. I think the answer lies with reward scaling based off job level/some other criteria. That way regardless of what level you are and where you are in the game you get a reasonable reward for the time/effort you put it based on those criteria. This allows the devs to scale the content to make it more difficult without it becoming less rewarding.

>condense the cutscenes down to the end of a dungeon after you leave the portal.

A sensible solution to the cutscene problem. In fact they could have narration going over the high points of the dungeon ala the Fallout series hitting all the keynotes of the story in it.

>The issue is with the MSQ itself. It's so bloated and the time milking nature of it hampers the game.

I would agree. Without wanting to call out to WoW what they should do is mix up more "fun" story quests in with the more uninteresting "Go to x location to talk to y person for a cutscene". A few ideas off the top of my head.

>chase down Garlean henchman on a Chocobo while avoiding shit he throws at you to slow you down. Extra points if it has some FF7 motorbike chase music with other Garlean goons harassing you as you chase him.

>Something involving fighting on an airship. Maybe something where you hop between airships ala FF10

>More things to do with the magiteck armor blowing shit up. You basically use it once in the MSQ dungeon and then never touch it again. They already have the attacks built into the game so it wouldn't be hard to move those out into the open world for some kind of power trip quest or two or three.

Those are a few ideas. More stuff like that. I'm not saying every quest needs to be a full-on Dragon Ball teir cuuurazy adventure but something to break up the monotony of "go to x for y" over and over and over and over and over again.

I mean, it's not like they have a whole library of games with this sort of shit in them base this sort of…oh wait.


4d416b No.14130622

>>14130614

How the scaling works is really weird. Basically it's designed to only work when it reduces your level and not otherwise, so areas that used to be caps and cover large I-level ranges get incredibly screwy.

Also on that note of syncing dungeons, them removing half or more of your skills when you get moved down is awful. I really think the idea of being able to sync down to do lower dungeons is fantastic, the execution especially with how it restricts your skills is annoying.


502be7 No.14130672

>>14129989

They are a gigantic unlikable faggot


28ba25 No.14130677

>>14130622

That's a whole other kettle of fish that is indeed a problem as well. I can't think of too many things that would ruin mechanically. The only recurring problem would be the confusion for new people not knowing what skills some of their party are using. That's not necessarily the worst kind of problem to have if it encourages them to ask questions about mechanics

>"What is that cool move?"

>"Don't worry you'll get it later, it does 'x' which is good for 'y'. "

>"neat :^). "

I'm sure if you nitpick you'll find some dungeon where having a certain skill makes it easier to beat but overall I see that being a more non-issue. The number of instances where that would even occur would be minuscule at best.

If it's an issue of syncing damage output I'm sure you could have a flat damage cap that keeps people from going over x amount of damage in lower level content if they're that worried about people cheesing things. My point is that there are ways to solve these problems mathematically that keep the game both challenging and fun.


4d416b No.14130738

>>14130677

Yeah, I agree with that. The problem that occurs is keeping the horrid gate that is the MSQ moving.

If for example we didn't have the MSQ completely cockblocking people from playing the expansions and basically any content, I can easily see it working the way you describe. The only concern would be striking the balance between easy and difficult as the dungeons progress. But with the MSQ existing the issue becomes that you need new players to get pumped through so you need to make the dungeons as brain dead as possible with rewards to encourage high levels to sync down to provide a constant source of party members for the required dungeons.


29d41d No.14130846

File: 62dd4e37849c140⋯.png (1.72 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_12292017_215236.png)

>>14087551

Well shit, it even removes the terrible sandals so you can actually have bare feet. I'll grab it just for that alone. Really needs someone skilled to come in and redo some of the models and textures, though.


d7e465 No.14136603

>>14130846

are SE gonna banned you for using mods?


f0f8d6 No.14136736

File: f032a3f1add753d⋯.jpg (60.72 KB, 594x425, 594:425, 1422887950043.jpg)

Square simply needs to do two things at this point to fix the shitty MSQ dungeons and leveling in general.

for MSQ dungeon, the only real solution is to scrap it entirely; split up the cutscene-heavy shit into solo duty instances, with the big climax battles being the actual 8-mans with the cutscenes before and after. ez.

Then, you can take the original (now obsolete) dungeons and work them into "Castrum Meridanum (Ultimate)" and "The Praetorium (Ultimate)", Yoshi did say he was looking into harder dungeon content, after all.

For leveling skills, you have three options, of which I realistically only think one would ever be on the table for the shitters at SE but here goes

>Option 1

Completely rework level scaling to be on an individual level instead of flat, i.e. as a level 70 BLM you are paired with a level 27 THM and you both fight on the same level. The two popular methods of this would either be the typical "nerf the higher level person across the board so that at average performance they're about the same as someone the appropriate level" or alternatively the WoW method of

>level 70 character sees and fights level 70 enemies, and any support skills or heals effect teammates as if they were level 70 (i.e. Cure 1 on the 26 THM heals for ~300 but on the 70 BLM it heals for 5k). The former is more of a balance nightmare but the latter takes significantly more effort from the devs.

>Option 2

Completely rework every job in the game except for maybe PLD to change the order in which they learn new skills and cut down on worthless filler skills i.e. Blizzard 2 so that they're actually enjoyable to play at all levels. This is the easiest option and the only one I realistically see them considering.

>Option 3

Both at the same time. This is the ideal.

Who am I kidding, none of these options are realistically going to happen because that would require japanese devs to acknowledge that they made a mistake.


d7e465 No.14136793

>>14136736

>Who am I kidding, none of these options are realistically going to happen because that would require japanese devs to acknowledge that they made a mistake.

They did acknowledge many mistakes like 1.0 and cross class system which they completely ditch in 4.0 but some are irreversible like SMN/SCH


f4897e No.14136868

>>14136736

I'd take option 1 but make it a queue option like frontline freelancer - that way I can pack between braindead/lazy or putting in effort/fun.


ec7b72 No.14139102

>>14136603

It's in the same limbo as ACT (Parser) is, as in, don't fucking mention that you use it to random people like a retard and you'll be fine.


28ba25 No.14139563

>>14136736

> scrap it entirely

Sounds nice but I don't think they'd do it.

regarding dungeon scaling in general-

option 1 is probably the way they'd go.

option 2 seems more like an addendum rather than an additional option. Instead of scrapping blizzard 2 I'd just make it useful so you don't need to scrap it. Make it behave like fire 2 in terms of targeting enemies instead of it being a localized AOE. Maybe turn it into a quasia support skill that gives someone or a group of people (in an AOE sort of way) 20 or 30 seconds of "ice armor". Make fire 2 a support skill as well to make them match up so to speak and have it be a 20 or 30-second attack boost with "fire charged weapons". It'd be a nice callback to FF9.

You could make it the effect target dependant. If it hits friendlies it's a buff. If it hits bad guys it's a damage. If you want to nerf its usefulness you can make the buffs and such traits you earn along the way.

My point is instead of scrapping things I would try to rework them first. And if there's no possible way to rework it without breaking things then you scrap them.


28ba25 No.14140214

File: 072bfc402ad4a90⋯.png (516.19 KB, 408x900, 34:75, I don't think they like me.png)

I don't think they care for my shitposty demeanor :^(


4d416b No.14140215

>>14139563

and if you scrapped the useless abilities you wouldn't have any real attacks until level 70 because of how badly they skillcrunched


2bc851 No.14143254

>>14140214

>using /tell to recruit peoples!

do they know how annoying that is


764999 No.14143769

>>14136603

>SE banning for mods

Been botting nearly 24/7 for over 3 years and still waiting for the ban hammer


28ba25 No.14143773

File: 0f8c37b0f020011⋯.gif (43.32 KB, 560x582, 280:291, 8e3.gif)

>>14143254

I'm not actively looking for a FC so I like the play a game I call "autistic charades" whey I ask increasingly weird questions and see how many of them I can get the person talking to me to answer before said person either stops responding or calls me on the crazy. I try to play it straight like every question really counts towards my decision of joining.

Sometimes, you gotta make your own fun.

>"Does your FC house have a designated mi'qote love room where I can pet them and use them as living body pillows?"

>"No? Well, your FC beginning to look like a hard sell for me here."


d7e465 No.14144459

>>14143773

never look at it that way, thanks anon, you just gave me ideas to troll the fuck out of these annoying fags


3cab1f No.14144910

Sometimes its kind of crazy to think people that just level one combat class to cap and stick with it are missing. Not even stuff like golden saucer but imagine trying to make money without reduction.


a32d69 No.14145310

File: 12356b511db8e53⋯.png (159.73 KB, 322x330, 161:165, yoshidahead.png)

Are you looking forward to 4.2?


3cab1f No.14145356

>>14145310

Gimme my relic yooouuuu FUCK!


4d416b No.14147079

>>14145310

what great nerfs can we expect? Oh brave yoshi.

Will a class that's already awful get shit on? Will you implement a dungeon that actually needs an OT as opposed to "DPS that very rarely tanks?"


ea9c97 No.14147106

File: 73541e971d2f93c⋯.png (2.92 MB, 1680x1050, 8:5, ffxiv_01122018_173727.png)

>>14145356

>tfw haven't completed a khloe book in months

thread is kinda ded. post glams.


ec7b72 No.14147221

File: d20b0d0eefa1bea⋯.png (3.16 MB, 2560x1440, 16:9, ffxiv_01122018_205547.png)


ea9c97 No.14147257

>>14147221

toppest tier minion choice.


968fe4 No.14147735

File: 7d7d08281045565⋯.jpg (66.64 KB, 1024x536, 128:67, 7d7d082810455659443a3969f4….jpg)

>>14102901

I'll never fucking forgive SE for ruining Mateus. It was the nearest FF11 experience I had. Low pop, everyone knew each other, assholes publically humiliated and shamed.

Now it's nothing but endless furfags and borderline pedos yiffing in shout chat.

And I'm stuck because me and the SO are some of the fags the newbies like to whine about. Hundreds of millions of him and several houses between many characters.

I just wish it could go back to being dead.


abd864 No.14148347

File: fddd40deeca2c46⋯.png (8.22 MB, 2560x1440, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>14147221

>>14147106

are you even trying?


ea9c97 No.14149685

>>14148347

>he doesn't like the combination of classic FFT styling with rugged battle-worn accents

everyone's a critic i guess.

yours is spot on though. i've seen way more pld glams that work out compared to drk/war stuff in SB. nothing has really struck me for drk/war as it has for pld


c0d0dc No.14149755

>>14147735

>I'm not in this photo and I think I should be

What the fuck kind of problem is this? Under what circumstances would someone find themselves saying that? Due to what kind of photo? Like a group photo? How is that Facebook's business at all? Maybe I'm the one that belongs in that photo.


ea9c97 No.14149955

>>14149755

checked.

>maybe I'm the one that belongs in that photo

no anon. the leftists and kikes and commies in charge of faceberg are the ones who belong in that photo. you're needed to fight the good fight and make eorzea great again.


9f7cbf No.14158654

did they said anything about housing yet?


e2791c No.14159849

Why is everyone so dissociated? Why is there no community? Are they content to let the game die?

What happened?


28ba25 No.14160288

File: b5407724db6d54c⋯.jpg (638.7 KB, 1352x932, 338:233, milf headpats.jpg)

>>14159849

I blame dungeon finder. Look at the underlying mechanics and the answer becomes clear.

First, ask yourself a very important question. "In the game is there any reason for me to talk to or cooperate with other people?"

Apart from just shooting the shit with randos I don't have any real gameplay reasons to talk to people. If I want to find out where to go or what to do for a quest I can just google it. As long as google is faster than a person I'll defer my search to it rather than trying to hunt down people or NPCs in game to give me the answer.

Fates and leves operate in much the same way. Mechanically you're just killing things so I don't actually need to critically think or work with anyone. Often I run this content solo (I'd say 99% of the time). Apart from finishing it faster, there's no real benefit to playing with others to clear this content. Remember, this is content for an MMO- As in, everyone working together to take on challenges they couldn't overcome on their own.

We've established you don't need to talk to people to help you understand mechanics or quests, you don't need people for fates and leves, you don't need to talk to people for dungeons (courtesy of dungeon finder) so what the hell do you need people for in the game? The answer is you don't really need to interact with anyone to go through any of the content. Hell if you knew the mechanics you could probably do the coils without talking to anyone either.

The reason the community is shit is that there's no reason to form meaningful relationships outside of nostalgia for other MMOs where everyone came together in those.FFXIV's original manifestation was a dumpster fire that sucked so bad they basically had to rebuild the shit from scratch. As we all know, certain mechanics were also scrapped. I think a lot of that difficulty and player cooperation was lost in that rebuilding. You can almost see where it might work if they rebalanced things and encouraged players to work together for bigger rewards.

The real problem with

>muh single player MMO

becomes apparent when you realize there's no mechanical need for you to interact with anyone for any reason. The only time you probably do interact with a another player is when someone screws up in a dungeon and you have to chastise them and tell them what not to do to not wipe the party. Talk about negative reinforcement.

Of course everyone here plays for the story rite?


8912f0 No.14160403

SMN or CNJ?


e2791c No.14160448

File: 4327d452c40c345⋯.png (409.28 KB, 833x899, 833:899, 4327d452c40c345f55d837a27f….png)

>>14160288

>You can almost see where it might work if they rebalanced things and encouraged players to work together for bigger rewards.

I'm so pissed off. Why do my games have to get so shit when it's such an easy fix with the right focus? Do they not have a single clear idea of what they're making?


d57f52 No.14160463

>>14160448

Its not about making a good game, its about making good customers.


e2791c No.14160516

>>14160463

But making a good game makes good customers.

I don't get it. By having a dedicated community, you are ensuring yourself eternal support and growth.

The single player fags will tire eventually and move on while the community endures.


4cfe31 No.14160529

>>14160288

Yeah lots of good points, aside from EX fights and such, not a whole lot of reasons.


28ba25 No.14160617

>>14160448

I don't wanna go full meta gamedev shit but if you want your players to do something in your game you have to give them a reason to do it. Right now the objective is for people to stay logged in and grinding through content; that's crafting, gathering, fates, leves, dungeons, story quests, etc.

They encourage this behavior with your typical skinner box techniques. Your gil, exp, flashy clothes, new mounts, emotes and so on.

Free companies are supposed to be part of the community aspect and to their credit, they do offer stat boosts and the airship quests. Outside of free companies though there's pretty much nothing to draw players together.

I would utlize the challenge log. In a party of 2 or more people do the following things with only players from your server.

>complete x amount of fates

>complete x amount of leves

>complete x amount of dungeons

>complete x amount of chocobo races together

>complete x amount of treasure hunts

And have the rewards maybe be special friendship emotes or something you wouldn't normally get from regular challenge log. Basically, your objective is to encourage social interaction through gameplay. Not everyone is going to be a gabby patty but even if only one out of every five parties talk to one another and interact you'll start to see non FC based groups forming.

Hell I would make it so you only get the rewards if you and another player do a fistbump or some other emote in unison after you're done with certain challenge logs to trigger the awards. That's some deep mental manipulation though and some people may start to catch on to what you're trying to do at that point.

There's already some groups like this and they run around and do things but they're happy accidents rather than some occurance through explicit mechanical design. The formed in spite of the gameplay rather than because of it.

>>14160463

This guy gets it. hand rubbing intensifies.

>>14160529

From a dev point of view I would want to do the least amount of work to get the most of out my assests. There's lots off shit to do in FFXIV so the content is already there. The trick is to encourage people to enjoy it together. I don't think adding a few lines of code to generate some challenge logs would be too hard.


b31a8b No.14162748

>>14074077

I mean, you're ALWAYS gonna end up with more than you put in, so why not?


c604c3 No.14164198

>Finally get the stats to get red and yellow scrips from MIN

>Get first of two folklore books

>Took 400+ collectibles

>All that waiting for GP to refill even with cordials

>Another book to go for MIN alone

So at this point is it even worth mining stuff like Molybdenum for yellow? or should i just do the weekly zhloe and catgirl turn ins?


f4897e No.14164352

>>14164198

I grinded collectibles to level and had all my books before I hit 70 - you may wish to go that route and level BTN or FSH. If you have the stats for HQ gathers on any of the timed nodes, you can make good money.


28ba25 No.14164624

>>14164352

Am I doing it wrong by doing the provisioning quests out of east shroud?


dae85d No.14170753

File: c69085f7ef23e18⋯.png (3.24 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_16012018_214549.png)


e2791c No.14171277

>>14170753

>Kitty the Edge


ea9c97 No.14171891

>>14170753

>c@ SAM

>red and black

>but it's on a pale ginger so you avoid the "ow the edge" factor a bit

>kinda reminds me of dante in a way

DMC3/10.


abd864 No.14171928

File: 707d523fd783e6f⋯.png (2 MB, 1580x889, 1580:889, ClipboardImage.png)

>>14171891

you missed the orinigal one


c46b2a No.14171970

File: 8769522c9cb5a45⋯.jpg (331.49 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Yare Yare Dazze.jpg)


28ba25 No.14171977

File: 57ba3f6da28251f⋯.png (995.96 KB, 1142x526, 571:263, miqote petting rooms.png)

Are there no FC's with miqote petting rooms or what? I figured LGBBQT&chips would have something along those lines. So much for the tolerant left


abd864 No.14172171

File: 5dc1a76426ee723⋯.png (3.11 MB, 2560x1440, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>14171977

depends which server you're on


ec7b72 No.14172457

File: 541c27381720501⋯.jpg (428.76 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, 1506628076727.jpg)

Who else is ready to buy out an entire housing ward?


8912f0 No.14172523

>>14172457

How much dosh that is it cost to buy some land? I want to farm


ea9c97 No.14172750

>>14172523

3 million on the cheap end, at least before depreciation kicks in. i think the bottom cost for a small plat is like 1.5mil but good luck finding that kind of a deal.


38de2c No.14175668

File: 396ed06a70504a6⋯.png (4.76 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_dx11 2018-01-17 12-4….png)

Made it to 7th floor of lost canals and met a new boss.


6eb4d1 No.14175716

>>14171977

Here I can clearly see you were talking to the owner of some LGBT thing but who were you talking to in >>14140214 ?


28ba25 No.14176601

File: 5f5d0b9694bb2d9⋯.png (291.12 KB, 374x654, 187:327, sayhitomyblacklist.png)

>>14175716

I don't remember. Read the interview. You can probably sleuth it by backtracing their character name.

also sayhitomyblacklist.png


d78903 No.14177985

>people who hide their parses

Outside of people having their shit parses be judged, why do people do this?


502be7 No.14178820

>>14176601

What the fuck is up with all the OW MY EDGE fuckers in XIV?


38de2c No.14182253

>>14178820

There is always going to be a community of them in most MMOs.


28ba25 No.14183412

File: 824e70caaa33685⋯.png (396.63 KB, 736x468, 184:117, overused joke.png)

File: 2a1fc656a74a490⋯.jpg (71.25 KB, 600x450, 4:3, disgusting.jpg)

How many 2 girls one cup references do they need to fucking make.


10e745 No.14183482

File: 0d8243c6bd98011⋯.jpg (38.97 KB, 464x591, 464:591, Squirrel Chair.jpg)

>>14183412

Anon, it's a reference to the expression "Killing two birds with one stone"…


1b7125 No.14183513

File: 6a5f44198c9305f⋯.jpg (69.85 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 6a5f44198c9305f93a9684e679….jpg)

>>14183412

And I thought I had my head in the gutter.


28ba25 No.14183521

File: e23f2a5166da0d9⋯.png (538.36 KB, 712x1379, 712:1379, quake me up.png)

>>14183482

>>14183513

I want to believe that but the writing is just so bad and memey.


39c748 No.14183527

File: cbf6389020b9cbc⋯.gif (2 MB, 500x375, 4:3, cbf6389020b9cbcb192e0f86b9….gif)

>>14183412

Are you ok Anon?


28ba25 No.14183539

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14183527

No I am not.


8b31bd No.14184109

File: a9278584647bf37⋯.jpg (100.66 KB, 1912x1084, 478:271, ffxiv-1685.jpg)

Hey guys Its my first time in this dungeon. What am I in for? My guild mates say they don't want to help me out with it. Is it that bad?


28ba25 No.14184251

File: 4656e56dba2ea95⋯.png (1.18 MB, 1010x900, 101:90, you say yes.png)

>>14184109

Don't forget to remove the poison after 2 stacks by eating the strange fruit.

Also, if someone asks if you have designated mi'qote petting room you say YES!


ec7b72 No.14184306

>>14184109

Get a better free company. It's only a bad dungeon if the players are bad.


f0f8d6 No.14184855

File: 6b465cd4843da3d⋯.jpg (60.01 KB, 457x555, 457:555, DRV2rBOUQAA0284.jpg)

>>14184109

It's the first dungeon in the game that actually kills you for being a retard who doesn't pay attention. Ergo, bad players hate it with a passion.


ea9c97 No.14184948

>>14184109

>AV

it is the noob killer. every report i have made in this game has come from this dungeon, and all of them have been a result of people who were unable to learn, take criticism from others, and/or adapt, and in the process they would drag the entire instance down for everyone else.

it's glorious. i love AV. it's level capped at 49 so you don't get any of the level 50 goodies that allow you to skate by when you make a mistake (HG, bene are most prominent) and the resulting stat cap is so harsh that there is actual danger of dying if a pull goes bad or a boss fight goes sideways. the addition of patrols in certain rooms coupled with the occasional environmental hazard just adds to the salt.

if you can handle AV at ilvl sync without anyone dying in your party, then you're well-equipped to learn and handle anything else the game throws at you.


4d416b No.14184988

>>14184948

>reporting people for being bad

Lucky SE hasn't banned you yet, then again the only real way to get banned is call someone bad, say you use ACT or scream racial slurs. Hacking, botting and the like will never get you banned, but god help you if you say "how the fuck are you so bad at the game"


28ba25 No.14185003

File: 44f1f494770b91f⋯.jpg (7.11 KB, 197x233, 197:233, 1445771031886.jpg)

>>14184948

I've always ran it in pubs and I don't think I've ever had to bail on it. What kinda mouth breathing retards are wiping on this shit?

>>14184988

>racial slurs

It's okay to be racist against lalafell right?

also

>88


ea9c97 No.14185101

File: 674767a1a9f6664⋯.png (723.65 KB, 1680x1050, 8:5, ffxiv_08162017_155407.png)

>>14184988

>just let shit players who refuse to learn continue to shit up the community after they blame everyone else for their fuckups

go home hitler dubs, you're drunk. wowfugees and other shitters not welcome.

>>14185003

i've only had to bail once.

the tl;dr is that a brd thought he could backseat tank and also didn't respect marked kill order. so i finally said "fine you tank" and started to dps. he died, his healer friend died, the other dps and i had a chuckle and then i bailed to go get some ice cream.

>>14184988

the three reports i've made were on 2 tanks and another brd there's something about brds man. all three times were a result of the same thing, and i was healing all three times. we'd get through the first room and the same thing would always happen; a frog would aggro, the tank would get pulled into range of another group, a pat would aggro, and the entire thing would go to shit. this is after me asking at the beginning "anyone need any tips on this first room? it can be tough so just lemme know" when i see that there's a new player bonus.

we'd clear the first boss ok, maybe a death, but i always mark fruit at the beginning and assign people a number if i see there's a newbie. then i'll say "eat at 2 or 3 stacks, but don't let it go past 3 or you might get one shot" and this usually solves the problem. things usually go fine until we get to Coincounter.

now, i love Coincounter, because he completely upends everything the game has shown you up to that point. of course, someone who has done any FATEing in coerthas won't be surprised by Coincounter, but that's becoming more of a rarity nowadays. so i'll preface the fight by saying something like "this guy's aoe doesn't have any indicators, so if you're melee and you see "swing" then run away from him. do the same thing if you're tank, but also do it from "swipe." if you're ranged and he looks at you, sidestep about 10y to the left or right to dodge his laser. if he "considers his actions" get within about 10y of him to avoid the circular aoe."

it's pretty concise and simple, and if people don't get it right off the bat then that's fine. you gotta learn somehow. but all three times i've reported they have all failed spectacularly on Coincounter, then were unable to take constructive criticism from me or the other randos in the group, and *then* proceeded to shit on everyone else for not keeping them alive or not dpsing hard enough or some other special snowflake-tier "it's not me, it's you!" excuse.

the final straw is the pull in the room after Coincounter, where the last set of patrols are. both tanks i've reported have fucked that pull up spectacularly, usually wiping us, and in one case (with the brd) the brd was the friend of the tank who ended up getting kicked after the blm called for his kick because he A.) sucked, B.) was unwilling to learn, and C.) kept blaming me and the blm for his mistakes. i ended up reporting the brd because he tried to actively MPK us lol by dragging mobs from deeper in over to us. naturally this didn't work out because of how aggro works in FF14 the blm and i just laughed as he got his shit pushed in but the brd got defaulted to leader after we kicked the pld, and he actively refused to recruit for another tank or to be a fucking man and take the 30 minute penalty. so we both reported the cunt and kicked him.

in the case of the tanks, it was a report based on the tank sucking, the tank not wanting to learn and being unable to take constructive criticism i didn't call them noobs, i just said hey AV can be tough and let me give you a few tips and in both cases resulted in me being called an "elitist" because wanting to successfully complete a lowbie dungeon is elitist now and shittng me and the other rando's by blaming us for stuff we didn't do while both tanks continued to suck.

in the case of the brd it was all of the above plus the attempted MPKing and the intentional desire to not get a new tank to "punish" us for kicking the pld, while also being a little bitch who wouldn't take the 30-minutes like a man and instead forced us to kick him too just so we could complete our damn instance.

i have no patience for people like that, and they don't belong in this game. no regrets for any of these reports, because shit like that has no place in this game. it can stay in WoW where it belongs.


4d416b No.14185168

>>14185101

>he thinks an MMO is hardcore

>kicks people for being bad

Wow it's toxic players like you which is why we must ban ACT or any tool to hold people accountable for their actions. Stop being so toxic you don't pay their subs


ec7b72 No.14185188

>>14185101

>didn't respect marked kill order.

Stop marking shit. It's faster to divide damage between the mobs as DoTs work their magic. You should be able to cope with that easily. If not, well, git gud then.


ea9c97 No.14185291

>>14185188

>>14185168

>oy vey goy! invite more bad players into your game and then don't speak up when they ruin things!

>expecting a standard of play is bad goy! don't you want to be the same as everyone else?!

>stop using in-game methods of dealing with aggressively toxic players goy! that's a sign you aren't "git gud" enough!

you both are cancer.

>>14185168

>Stop being so toxic you don't pay their subs

that's exactly what the shitters said.

you're still a shitty tank gretty


b656a5 No.14185307

>>14185291

Bro, marking kill orders hasn't been relevant since Heavensward came out and effectively made ilvl sync a joke. DPS have TP regenerators by AV level and should be using AoE on trash pulls regardless.


4d416b No.14185326

>>14185291

Wow, just keep being a bad player. We here in FFXIV believe that no player should be called out for sub 10 dps at level 70. That's why we don't ban hackers, but will ban asshats like you who call people out on playing poorly


ec7b72 No.14185347

File: 0039fd0802dc0fe⋯.jpg (433.43 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 87.jpg)

>>14185291

Sorry man, but I gotta spread the poz evenly. I HAVE TO. I'm not gimping myself for yet another tank who refuses to let go of the marking crutch. It just ain't happening.You're gonna get BANE'd on and you're gonna like it.


28ba25 No.14185397

>>14185347

Regarding marking. Unless someone besides the tank is requesting it I never see marks go up. Occasionally I'll see positional markers but enemy markers are a rare appearance.

I don't do coils though because I heard they were hard. Do coils require mob markers?


104f9e No.14187314

File: b7f72ee71b56fbd⋯.png (174.21 KB, 358x358, 1:1, friend.png)

so how bad is the heavensward msq compared to the arr msq? am i going to want to blow my brains out again?


ec7b72 No.14187351

File: fc41a656b854c3e⋯.jpg (158.88 KB, 823x1071, 823:1071, FRIENDS STAY.jpg)

>>14187314

It's a lot better. Much less fucking filler and shitty roe NPCs making you do meaningless garbage.


dae85d No.14187401

File: 20b4272e45b61aa⋯.jpg (139.51 KB, 896x716, 224:179, darkah channeru.jpg)

>>14187314

And more importantly you won't get a grueling aftergame either


104f9e No.14187460

>>14187401

>>14187351

thats a relief


4d416b No.14188103

>>14187460

it's just as bad. Have fun with even more filler quests and the reveal that none of the HW story mattered


ea9c97 No.14188123

>>14185307

>>14185347

>Bro, marking kill orders hasn't been relevant since Heavensward came out

>they haven't been playing since 1.0

where in my post did i say this was recently?

hint: this happened back before 2.1

>>14185326

you. you're a cheeky cunt, but i like you.

>>14185397

>markers

they're used more for marking players for paired mechanics than anything else. i.e. shinryu EX for the 4 stack mechanics in the last phase.

>>14188103

>none of the story mattered

bro, you're playing an mmo. none of this matters. just let yourself go and have fun


710ab6 No.14188422

>That Phantom Train

>That Chardanook

>That Boss Rush featuring Guardian and Atma Weapon

>That Kefka

>That Byakko

>That Wardrobe

>1440 more houses per server

This patch was worth the wait.


93da8a No.14188592

File: 2ea4984e7694afa⋯.png (3.51 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ffxiv_01192018_140113.png)

Will you help count my shekels, /v/?


28ba25 No.14188633

>>14188123

That rings a bell. The most complex thing I've done mechanically was watching aggro and swapping it between myself and another tank for some boss battle.


33f340 No.14188668

>>14188103

Were you asleep during the whole thing or do you just have irredeemably bad taste?


4d416b No.14190589

>>14188668

The big twist being lol she juts was sleep poison or the hey lets just kind of half assedly huck the super evil eyeball to the bottom of this cliff really none of dragonsong war mattered at all, and the plot is completely disconnected from the other garbage pile that is the SB story. Now this wouldn't be an issue except you have to play through it, and the flow between the two is horrible


a32d69 No.14190953

File: 9c5e873dc03db67⋯.jpg (30.07 KB, 540x309, 180:103, 2051215_0.jpg)

Shill me on the latest patch. You can't.




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