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29b4c7 No.14484845


Previous thread:



3df0be No.14484891

Reminder that Roy is worse then any NuEmblem rep.

29b4c7 No.14484893


That's not saying much

abe1ff No.14484912


Archive it, nigger.

bb8f35 No.14484915

File: 51ae33f7fcb9797⋯.jpg (109.48 KB, 495x700, 99:140, Reimu002.jpg)

Are you ready for indie game representation :^)



>Worse than Lucina


4f1690 No.14484928

File: f7506353914b0bc⋯.jpg (221.9 KB, 800x558, 400:279, f7506353914b0bcbf9b38b7c11….jpg)


>tfw touhou is losing steam compared to Azur Lane and Fate

edd2ff No.14484946

Requested Newcomer Tier List

>God Tier

Banjo and Kazooie


Cranky Kong

>Great Tier

Skull Kid

Sword Ganondorf

Wonder Red

>Shit Tier


Any Fire Emblem Character

Any unironic suggestion of a character who didn't originate from vidya (Goku, etc)

>Autism Tier





29b4c7 No.14484951



Reimu and Quote are the only acceptable indie choices, everything else is mugen meme trash.

d99a02 No.14484958


Just like it was losing steam to Kancolle half a decade ago, or however old that is now?

5810ac No.14484975

File: 24d144a3115c4db⋯.gif (41.39 KB, 370x517, 370:517, lip.gif)


7e4457 No.14484981

File: aba63eedd75ea59⋯.jpg (70.66 KB, 580x332, 145:83, Pious_Liche.jpg)

File: a831f3fd5b10ef3⋯.png (252.98 KB, 849x560, 849:560, Wonder-Red.png)

File: 6f27740bd5f546f⋯.jpg (121.71 KB, 736x887, 736:887, 03000f8407ce4eda6e404abe30….jpg)

File: d1bf48f007df255⋯.png (207.06 KB, 484x1024, 121:256, Kyle_Hyde_2_LW.png)

File: b71f8daad0139f5⋯.gif (3.59 MB, 800x200, 4:1, custom_robo__ray_assembly_….gif)

>Sakurai is a hack

>All third part characters should be removed

>No more than 4-5 characters from any one series (No more than 2-3 from spin-offs)

>Characters I want to see as newcomers are Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness), Wonder Red (The Wonderful 101), Saki or Isa (Sin & Punishment/S&P: Star Successor), Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk/Last Window), and Ray (Custom Robo)

83ac3c No.14485008


I want a Sin and Punishment character too, though mostly for the sake of us getting a Sin and Punishment stage.

842f37 No.14485012


Basically how I feel, but the only third parties that should be in Smash are Sonic, Megaman and Pac-man. that's it.

1c61c2 No.14485031


By third party do you mean characters that weren't on nintendo consoles? Because as far as I know first party means directly made by Nintendo, second party means Game Freak and Intelligent Systems, and third party means any other company.

a90a28 No.14485069

File: f1716ff87d65287⋯.png (474.43 KB, 1618x1250, 809:625, blodtelon.png)



567980 No.14485080

if I can't psyslap a bitch I don't want it

3506f6 No.14485085

File: 7cef7da855061d7⋯.gif (170.93 KB, 288x281, 288:281, Hyde smile.gif)


holy shit, someone besides me remembers Hotel dusk.

842f37 No.14485087


No, he means games that were on a Nintendo console but are not made by Nintendo or a second party. You're of fourth party

5810ac No.14485107


I would not be opposed to Decidueye. Remove Lucario and then I'll be okay with him getting in.

90697a No.14485191


We need more Lip.

a490d1 No.14485214


I'm half thinking they'd add something from Sony, seeing as they are porting the Crash trilogy.

Doubt they'd add Crash himself, as he was in that Playstation fighter that was pretty shit but I enjoyed the couple hours I played.

895e64 No.14485216



Also I don’t need to say Wonder Red every thread because OP did it for me

b33b86 No.14485234

Wasn't there another thread after that one that got (((mysteriously))) deleted?

895e64 No.14485235


I dunno, after Cloud I feel like Geno has a legitimate shot at getting in now. I mean the Inklings got a Mii costume and now they’re in. The only reason Geno wasn’t Sm4sh DLC was probably because Sakurai wanted to finish Corrin and Bayo and then stop working on the game.

Reimu has no chance of getting in but I want her anyways. Really I doubt there’ll be any indie reps in Sma5h. Maybe Quote or Shovel Knight or even Shantae, but they don’t have much of a chance.

a490d1 No.14485237



Are all of the games by Cing worth playing, or just Hotel Dusk?

5810ac No.14485250


>Reimu has no chance of getting in but I want her anyways

I feel the opposite. I feel like if Cloud could make it in then Reimu might have a shot, especially since she's the only "indie" character with any semblance of being iconic (being one of the main characters in one of the most well-known shmup series out there). Problem is, her appearance would bring in so many secondaries to Touhou, it's not even funny, so I don't exactly want her in.

895e64 No.14485271


>she’s the only “indie” character with any semblance of being iconic


5810ac No.14485276


Well yes, true, you got me there.

895e64 No.14485279


I’d also argue for Shovel Knight and Shantae like I did previously but I feel as though there’s a difference between being mostly well-known and iconic.

a90a28 No.14485305


Well, maybe if Shovel Knight 64 is released this year.

5810ac No.14485308


While I do enjoy both of those games mostly Shovel Knight, and while they are extremely well known as far as indie games go, I'd argue that they aren't as iconic or genre-defining as Quote (for indie gaming as a whole, helped bring pixel indie to the mainstream) or Reimu (almost a poster-girl for bullet hell shmups), and that might be what Sakurai is going for. Those two you pointed out are also not Japanese, so there might be Sakurai bias as far as indies go, as the only American-made character that's made it into Smash as a playable character up to this point was Diddy Kong, and only because Donkey Kong Country, and by extension their characters, had been semi-popular in Japan prior to it. Of course I could be full of shit and for all I know Sakurai could very well be a Shovel Knight fanboy.


>Well, maybe if Shovel Knight 64 is released this year.

Never ever, they still need to finish Shovel Knight 1. I want my damn Battle Mode already, can't wait to fuck up some nerds with Propeller Knight.

29b4c7 No.14485334

File: 6d13a7f8c1b0868⋯.jpg (3.49 KB, 100x96, 25:24, IMG_20180302_200327.jpg)


>Wanting Shovel Knight or Shantae in smash

a0e40b No.14485360

File: 162f1ccd1ee9c91⋯.png (354.29 KB, 628x559, 628:559, eedda5b40e40d55bda9594e7ea….png)


What do you have against shante?

Shes a perfectly viable and reasonable character, even more so than duck hunt or pacman for fucks sake.

Also add my boy Quote nintnedo, you would be shooting yourself in the foot by not doing so

768829 No.14485368


ad65ce No.14485387


Do not withhold that image.

b33b86 No.14485403


>the mascot of the co-developer and one of the most iconic game characters is less viable than an indie character that showed up in four-or-so metroidvanias because muh dick

bb8f35 No.14485426


>more so than duck hunt

>more so than a first party property

32b2bd No.14485431


>forgetting dash attack and throws

>not including taunts

3db2ec No.14485455


And I still forgot the throws because I'm a retard apprently.

>B -

>Forward B -

>Down B -

>Up B -

>Jab -

>Jab Combo (If Applicable) -

>F Tilt -

>Down Tilt -

>Up Tilt -

>Smash -

>Down Smash -

>Up Smash -

>N-Air -

>Up-Air -

>F-Air -

>B-Air -

>Down-Air -

>Grab -

>Pummel -

>Rising Attack -

>Ledge Attack -

>Dash Attack -

>Taunt 1 -

>Taunt 2 -

>Taunt 3 -

>Forward Throw

>Up Throw

>Down Throw

>Back Throw


a0e40b No.14485459

File: 8bc831d03b08c1b⋯.png (135.82 KB, 517x491, 517:491, dsp choke.png)


Do not sexualize the Shantae



How about more so than

>Wii fit trainer or Villager

They are not even from action games


It was originally just a fucking toy

>Mr. Game and Watch

I am convinced that Sakurai was one some kind of crack to even consider adding that guy


He has never been in a single nintendo game, except for that one rythm game I think, shantae started with the nes with a perfectly solid game.


He was from just one insanely niche game from 20 years before brawl even came out and by then Shantae had even more games than him

Choosing characters for smash is a bit random and sometimes bullshit but dont say that perfectly viable characters are not valid when way dumber shit has been added in, you're just being retarded by saying those things.

3db2ec No.14485461


I believe she started with the Gameboy Color.

32b2bd No.14485465


>He was from just one insanely niche game from

Actually two since he has an even more obscure game on the gameboy.

511841 No.14485482

File: a39849b4a2b614b⋯.png (1.29 MB, 1224x1076, 306:269, gabrielgunout.png)

>getting hyped for smash after the shitshow that was 4

2a81f2 No.14485483

File: 0173c9cbca88e3b⋯.gif (2.87 MB, 423x226, 423:226, mash A to save earth.gif)


But Wedgewood is nothing without his team. It would make more sense to have a seven-person team like Ice Climbers or Pikmin for the Centinels, or to include Viewtiful Joe as a single playable character.

3db2ec No.14485485


Go away meleefag.

bb8f35 No.14485490


what's so bad about 4

567980 No.14485495


4 was still better than the undeniable garbage of brawl, so if anything the series is trending up.

3db2ec No.14485497


>B -

>Forward B -

>Down B -

>Up B -

>Smash -

>Down Smash -

>Up Smash -


Aspergers Version

5810ac No.14485499



>one insanely niche game

>forgetting the Game Boy Kid Icarus game that was even more obscure

>forgetting that Shantae's second game came out after Brawl, in 2010

Come on now, Anon.

842f37 No.14485512


Shantae isn't a Nintendo character, that's why I don't want her in.

a90a28 No.14485514


I deleted that post for a reason. It wasn't finished and I accidentally hit some combination of keys that made it send. You couldn't wait 3 seconds?

511841 No.14485520


True, but I still have no hopes for 5.

3db2ec No.14485523


Nigga, I've got the thread on auto-update, I can still see your post. I figured you just left it at his normal specials.

842f37 No.14485524


>Wedgewood is nothing without his team

There was a chapter where you went with him solo and fought against blue

7e4457 No.14485533


>what's so bad about 4

<Opening is a mash-up of the trailers

<No adventure mode

<Large chunk of cast are sword fighters and/or clones

<Large chunk of the cast either from Mario, Fire Emblem, or Pokémon

<Doesn't look that appealing graphically

<"We won't be prioritizing third-part characters"

<Best characters in the game are third-party and DLC

<Cloud had no reason to be in the game!

3db2ec No.14485535



>Implying they won't just randomly appear out of him like some sort of sentient tumor or JRPG party member when they need to do their special move then vanish again.

2a81f2 No.14485545


You're also alone for the first 3-4 missions of the Prologue and the Kahkoo-Regah portal there, but the point of that sequence in 004-B is pretty obviously that the team needs to work together.


So you'd be playing as Unite Red? I can get behind that.

3db2ec No.14485582

Let's do an an Aspergers Build for Wonder Red

>B - Unite Gun

>Forward B - Unite Bomb or Unify Boomerang

>Down B - Unite Guts (Counter Move)

>Up B - Unite Claw (Diagonal rising multiple slashes) or Unite Whip (If they return teather recoveries)

>Smash - Unite Hand

>Down Smash - Unite Hammer (Makes Shockwaves)

>Up Smash - Unite Sword

<FINAL SMASH - Final Ultimate Legendary Earth Power Super Max Justice Future Miracle Dream Beautiful Galaxy Big Bang Little Bang Sunrise Starlight Infinite Fabulous Totally Final Wonderful Arrow

2a81f2 No.14485599


Unite Whip should probably be the grab. Down Smash could also be Unite Tombstone, although that might be a little too similar to Kirby.

12d67a No.14485601


Final smash should be chargeable to add more words as you hold it

I’d also be okay with platinum robo as a character with whole team in it and a stage where all the characters are giants in blossom city

a0e40b No.14485615

File: 0a6dfa3777585da⋯.png (582.47 KB, 750x750, 1:1, DFBJS7XVYAAV-xH.png)




You're right about that, my bad.


>She started from Gameboy color

>All of her games are on nintendo consoles

>Not a nintendo character

Solid snake and Sonic managed to get in too back in brawl and they werent even nintendo characters, a mgs game was never even in a single nintendo console at the time.

abe1ff No.14485619

File: 353702f77e8c07a⋯.jpg (69.46 KB, 640x780, 32:39, A A A A A A A A A ….jpg)


And neither was Sonic or Snake.

3db2ec No.14485627


Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes was a remaster of MGS1 for the Gamecube. There were also the two original non-solid Metal Gears.

2a81f2 No.14485635


>There were also the two original non-solid Metal Gears.

But those were MSX games, not Nintendo.

3db2ec No.14485639


Right, but they had NES versions.

32b2bd No.14485646


Not Metal Gear 2, the other Metal Gear game on NES was Snake's Revenge

a0e40b No.14485658


Oh neat. I never knew that game was on gamecube.

There still is no excuse for cloud though.

3db2ec No.14485659


Oh, my bad. But, suffice it to say, Snake had been on Nintendo consoles at the very least. I'm not actually trying to make a point in regards to Shantae or not. I wouldn't mind seeing her, Quote, or Shovel Knight to represent indies and I think they all have a decent enough claim to a roster spot.

3db2ec No.14485679


That one has a relatively flimsy reason. While the only Cloud game on a Nintendo console was Theatrythm to the best of my knowledge, Final Fantasy as a series did have a relatively long history on Nintendo consoles even if mainline games migrated to Sony. Cloud IS the most iconic Final Fantasy character and he may not be representing Final Fantasy VII (or Theatrythm), but Final Fantasy as a whole.

5810ac No.14485684

File: f20f1dfda10888a⋯.gif (33.74 KB, 400x473, 400:473, thinking lip.gif)


I'll bite. Let me do one for Lip. The idea is that since Lip's gameplay in Panel de Pon is based on chaining together combos, her A attacks build up a chain level depending on how many attacks or combos you can get off in a short amount of time. It would cap out at, say, 8 or 9. That being said…

>B - Pollen Burst, creates a burst of pollen which has range and does knockback depending on the chain level; since it uses her Lip's Stick, it naturally gives opponents the Flower status

>Side-B - Nature's Chain, creates a series of blocks that have hitboxes and disappear similar to how blocks disappear in the Puzzle League series, can create up to six depending on the chain level

>Up-B - Cotton Spore, lets Lip float using that cotton creature she flies in with during the intro to Panel de Pon

>Down-B - creates a block that goes under Lip; its size depends on the chain level

>Smash - Lip's Stick, albeit a less potent version of how it's normally used as an item

>Up-Smash - Rainbow Swing, where Lip swings the stick upwards

>Down-Smash - Flower hammer, uses the Lip's Stick as a hammer, I guess?

Lip's abilities are so undefined I have to pull some of this shit out of my ass, don't know how Sakurai does it.

a0517e No.14485700


>a character from an M Nintendo game appearing on a Nu-tendo game

No dice, fam

I am hoping for an EBA/Ouendan assist trophy, at the very least, and for Snake to return, but possibly they should put some Ghost Babel shit in it.

I also bloody know that they're going to add BotW shit but I'd rather they did that than they added more FE characters that are only good for tumblr redraws.


Paperclips et al

7e4457 No.14485717

File: 22e2fb6eb83b4fe⋯.gif (2.06 MB, 480x270, 16:9, bayonetta_2.gif)


The one problem I have with that explanataion is that it all came as a result of Dragon Quest. That series started with the original JRPG, it's more synonymous with gaming than Mario in Japan, the successful localization of the first game is what influenced NoA to even pick up the first Final Fantasy, and the series introduced numerous Western to JRPGs through Nintendo giving away free copies of it's sequels with each new subscription to Nintendo Power. Also, Enix bought out Squaresoft, so who's really the superior representative?


>>a character from an M Nintendo game appearing on a Nu-tendo game

>No dice, fam

<She didn't happen

<The MGS discussion we're having didn't happen

Also, didn't Nintendo say that they're more open to considering more mature titles?

3df0be No.14485752



Roy's game was the first massive casualization of the series, he was a shit character, he was mandatory because he was a Lord but his stats were poor and he was forced in Smash to advertise the game.

bb8f35 No.14485762

File: 9643c44c7961885⋯.jpg (152.15 KB, 800x1000, 4:5, 1443583756322.jpg)


>Also, didn't Nintendo say that they're more open to considering more mature titles?

like titty ninjas?


I still don't think he's worse than marth with tits

ad65ce No.14485770


Senran is already genuinely on the switch though,there was even a section in a direct for it in japan

3df0be No.14485781


At least titty Marth was useful in her game.

b33b86 No.14485791


>implying Lucina has tits


I don't want that shitty grind marathon anywhere near an actual game

221308 No.14485806

File: 026f39b8ead7868⋯.png (109.04 KB, 344x321, 344:321, WaluigiMP9.png)


bb8f35 No.14485808


actually both can leave, since they're both marth clones


>>implying Lucina has tits

right, i forgot.


but senran isn't in smash (yet)

97fa4b No.14485993

File: 7f5209a4cb51a47⋯.jpg (53.16 KB, 300x300, 1:1, gendum.jpg)


>God Tier: Waluigi

>Autism Tier: Ridley


>not even from action games

What's your point?

b33b86 No.14486019


I'd put them both in meme tier

3db2ec No.14486030


Eh, if you're thinking of Waluigi as Brawl in the Family "TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME" yeah, he's meme tier, but if you consider him a representative for all the Mario Sports games, the Mario Party games, etc I'd say he's not a meme.

6ad0d6 No.14486122

File: bc4ff6cfc4c57f8⋯.jpg (203.98 KB, 900x330, 30:11, 6VL3PNv.jpg)

19cfc5 No.14486123

File: ac5b12ca5aac9cb⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 62.4 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, moe.jpg)


d4f9d7 No.14486174

File: d43c69a3a0b3468⋯.png (1015.72 KB, 768x1024, 3:4, The_Prince(SOT)_Render.png)

Out of curiosity, how much of a chance do Western third-party characters have? I keep seeing Japanese and Indie reps suggested, but what about third-party Western reps such as the Persian Prince from PoP, or…

…or…oh, that's why. Can anyone else think of any "notable" Western third-party characters who've been on a Nintendo console and are NOT owned by Ubisoft?

bb8f35 No.14486180


Doomguy? He had a N64 game i think

e3242d No.14486199

File: cce0d6253cf267c⋯.jpg (77.76 KB, 751x607, 751:607, 1461904712409-1.jpg)


Does being excited for the shitposting and butthurt count?

d5cf67 No.14486211



No matter how things turn out, Japan Time is always the most wonderful time on /v/.

b546e0 No.14486225



I'd take Reimu and Marisa in my Smash Brothers game, no doubt.

d4f9d7 No.14486228

File: 66c59aabe78e839⋯.jpg (93.76 KB, 640x470, 64:47, 3052_front.jpg)

File: 3e1e03daad35a88⋯.jpg (48.14 KB, 640x440, 16:11, 3061_front.jpg)

File: 0be45668e985730⋯.jpg (155.45 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 3038_front.jpg)

File: 04b9689fc7787b3⋯.jpg (128.84 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 3068_front.jpg)

File: fbecb9a338f1670⋯.jpg (165.96 KB, 640x1038, 320:519, 655366_front.jpg)


Oh, yeah, the original on the SNES, Doom 64, the GBA ports, and, finally, nuDoom.

f1a624 No.14486234

File: 6bdf9cd35431bea⋯.png (319.93 KB, 628x660, 157:165, Untitled.png)

d5cf67 No.14486286


If Goku is revealed at E3 I will shit a house

I can't believe Goku is a legitimate possibility but this is the timeline we live in now

bb8f35 No.14486297


There are probably better versions of Sun Wukong to put into Smash than the Dragon Ball one

b33b86 No.14486308



16dc44 No.14486315


Titty ninjas isn't mature, it's fucking garbage.

a0517e No.14486319

File: 0d8f42ff7472c1f⋯.png (139.59 KB, 357x400, 357:400, ClipboardImage.png)


But Bayo was part of the deal for putting Sonic back in the game and to promote their own material. Why would Nu-tendo want to revive one of its old good franchises (that doesn't have meme/in-joke status like The Mysterious Murasame Castle or Rhythm Heaven) when they have so many surefire sells at their disposal? As much as I think Sakurai takes bad decisions, he's probably the reason why we have a rather unique set of characters that include both the famous and the slightly obscure like Mr. Game and Watch or the Ice Climbers. I mean, fucking Captain Falcon is all on him. Speaking of, I hope they don't pull another 4 and just release it for the superior hardware with all the features intact.


Why is Lip so cute?

fb408f No.14486331

File: 9890124891cf84b⋯.png (341.8 KB, 850x476, 25:14, tears.png)

File: e8653435d4b554e⋯.png (77.84 KB, 250x340, 25:34, nothing but.png)

File: d0e6fce3541441a⋯.png (64.67 KB, 578x325, 578:325, sadness.png)


>I can believe Sora may be in the game.

>Shovel Knight may be in the game.

>Freaking Sans has an actual sliver of a possibility of being in.

<Goku, never ever.

It won't happen, its more of a meme than anything else, but if it ever does, I'm ending myself.

16dc44 No.14486339


Screencapping this and holding you to it, anon. See you at E3~

08d7fc No.14486343

File: 8391d581686b55e⋯.png (113.69 KB, 500x549, 500:549, 174 .png)

File: 73d97a1b86392f4⋯.png (302.81 KB, 500x708, 125:177, 178.png)

File: 1aa61835995fe38⋯.png (152.09 KB, 429x750, 143:250, 179.png)

This is the only indie rep Smash deserves and needs.

Every thread

a0517e No.14486345


Though if they ever make a poll I'd definitely help the cause and vote the only good addition.

>ywn go back to the times when raiding polls with Einstein and Launchpad McQuack was the norm and not the exception

90697a No.14486350


There are a handful of characters I give any damn about at this point that they could put in that would really "hype" me in any real fasion. Goku would be one of them. Him, Chrono, Reimu, and the biggest long shot Kyle Katarn, but I can't think of any actual characters in the last two console generations worth, Nintendo or otherwise, that I would actually want to play go out of my way to play smash for other then what I listed. I can barely even think of any good "new" characters in the past few years. I mean, I would love Shantae in the next Smash, and it would be surprising as fuck if someone like Master Chief or some other rival first partier was announced, but it wouldn't really get me hyped.

d4f9d7 No.14486368

File: 04bc61fd2362958⋯.png (188.14 KB, 296x423, 296:423, Huh.png)


>As much as I think Sakurai takes bad decisions, he's probably the reason why we have a rather unique set of characters that include both the famous and the slightly obscure


ca2630 No.14486373

My pick would be Travis Touchdown, with a new game coming out he even has a decent chance. *Reimu* would be fun but unlikely.


I'd want this just for the massive SJW asshurt. Hell with Bayonetta getting in it's not even that much of a longshot.

16dc44 No.14486381


Bayonetta is sexier than any of those retarded blobs from shitran kagayra

>inb4 Mark bans me for saying shitran kagayra

66ee65 No.14486384

Smash needs to go back to being ONLY Nintendo first party characters and equal representation between series. Sm4sh was just full of stupid bullshit. Fucking memes like Mega Man, Pacman, Cloud, the dozen sword characters from Fire Emblem. Fuck all that shit. One or two characters per IP. Nintendo only. Final destination.

25d169 No.14486391


>Not liking Pac-man and MegaMan

Shit taste.

49d274 No.14486393



d5cf67 No.14486395


i hope he bans you

66ee65 No.14486397



Suck my cock, it's supposed to be Nintendo properties only and the latest one was watered down trash.

49d274 No.14486402


>it's supposed to be Nintendo properties only

Says who?

66ee65 No.14486405


The first 3 games.

16dc44 No.14486407


>Smash needs to go back to being ONLY Nintendo first party characters and equal representation between series.


I don't think Smash was EVER like that


>4 characters from Mario (Mario, Luigi, DK, Yoshi)

>2 Pokemon

>1 of every other franchise represented


>7 Mario universe reps

>2 Fire Emblem reps

>4 Pokemon

>4 Zelda reps (5 counting Sheik as a separate character)

>2 Starfox reps

>1 of everything else

Hell Smash 4 technically leverages more characters against the all Mario franchise representation (even if it's heavy in Pokemon and Fire Emblem) so your point is kinda moot.

ca2630 No.14486408

File: d4cbc30e37308ff⋯.jpg (117.28 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 1466641662342.jpg)


>Fucking memes like Mega Man, Pacman

Naw fuck you m8. Those were perfectly good additions. I agree about all the FE shit though.


>assumed it was some other guy that hated Senran for a second

>nope it's shitranfag again

4f1690 No.14486414

File: 0e82620968c6214⋯.png (319.01 KB, 469x706, 469:706, rin2.png)


I actually hate Shovel Knight, Sora and Sans as characters. I'd rather have Quote even though I don't really care for him.

I originally wanted Reimu, but I feel like that'd be a mistake. First of all, it's nigh impossible considering how none of the primary touhou games found a western release. Second of all, I don't want normalfags invading the touhou fandom, especially not since it's losing steam (and getting releases on Steam, funnily enough).

16dc44 No.14486416


>>nope it's shitranfag again

Except I'm not, try again.

d5cf67 No.14486433


If anything I think Reimu would piss people off that she got a spot over someone else, kinda like Bayonetta did. I'm not opposed to her in 5ma5h, but I can't exactly argue against the secondary invasion concerns.

I don't see why Shovel Knight wouldn't be a good addition.

90697a No.14486444


>Pacman, Cloud, the dozen sword characters from Fire Emblem. Fuck all that shit.

Couldn't agree with you more anon.


You need to leave now mother fucker.

d5cf67 No.14486450


What's wrong with Pacman?

49d274 No.14486451


Kek, faggot.

ca2630 No.14486461


Adding western indie characters would open smash up to a fuckton of cancer. Best to just stick to indie Japanese stuff, Quote is probably the best pick out of all that.

bb8f35 No.14486462



So Sonic and Snake are Nintendo properties now?

186bbd No.14486471

What about 8 player smash? You think they'll get rid of it? How many of you actually play it? I never really touched it. And having 8 players would be a lot for Switch to handle if you have situations with two characters per player, like with Ice Climbers (if they do come back) and Rex + Blade if it happens.

I'd like to see some better online modes too, specially something like Splatfests, where there's some sort of event that goes on and the levels and items change. Maybe take the events they have every week and make special item load outs, launch rates, etc?

I feel like if online plays ends up the same way as on Smash 4, when you now have to pay for Smash online, it'll suck ass.

90697a No.14486488


Wasn't really a "Nintendo character". At least when compared to fucking 1-8 + X + spinoffs like soccer Megaman. Megaman was born on the Nintendo. Pacman was an icon, but he was never a "Nintendo" icon. No amount of arcade exclusive Mario Kart racers will fix that. Still a better then Cloud or the dozens of FE characters they kept squeezing in. Seriously, no spear or axe characters for FE?

bb8f35 No.14486490


We probably only got 8-Player Smash because the Character constraints imposed imposed by the 3ds

d5cf67 No.14486504


>Ice Climbers (if they do come back)

They'd fucking better. Sakurai doesn't have the technical limitations excuse anymore.

90697a No.14486509


err 1-7, I keep thinking Rockman and Forte was a report of 8 for some reason.

4f1690 No.14486515

File: e9b97cf07527df2⋯.jpg (33.65 KB, 450x650, 9:13, madotsuki.jpg)


>indie Japanese stuff


<Final Smash

>Throws an enemy off the roof

a0e40b No.14486518


Is sakurai still even working on smash this time?


Use your head you dope, shes not a nintendo character, nor has ever been on one of their consoles.

ca2630 No.14486522


Even more niche than Raymoo. I wouldn't complain if she got in though on the grounds that she could have the best fucking level ever if they went all out on it.

d5cf67 No.14486524


He's confirmed to be working on it, which is good as screaming at Sakurai whenever he fucks up never gets old for me.

4f1690 No.14486540



Has Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console? I can't think of any Final Fantasy games period that showed up on Nintendo consoles past the SNES era.

5810ac No.14486542


>Second of all, I don't want normalfags invading the touhou fandom

Fucking this. It's bad enough that some Smash fans only know of shit like Earthbound, F-Zero and Fire Emblem through Smash, and it's even worse because Fire Emblem only got popular in the West because two characters from it got into Melee. You think secondaries in Touhou are bad? Imagine how worse it'll be if Reimu gets in.


>I don't see why Shovel Knight wouldn't be a good addition.

Again, I actually really like Shovel Knight, and wouldn't mind him if Quote got in beforehand, but his appearance in Smash would be kind of cheapened by him being in every other fucking indie game, and his only real importance to Nintendo would be that his game is the first third party game with its own amiibo (not counting the Smash amiibo given to Pac-Man, Mega Man and Sonic) and had limited exclusivity for the Specter of Torment campaign. Meanwhile, Quote is a little more important due to being the original posterboy for indie games on Nintendo's platform, being there to help bolster the DSiWare and Wii Shop Channel, as shit as they were (hell, a former NoA employee had to fight to get the game onto those platforms). Not only that, but he's been around since 2004, so his game has had time to age well.


>What about 8 player smash? You think they'll get rid of it?

No fucking clue, depends on how well optimized the engine is for Switch. Of course if they do add in Bomberman there's no way they won't add it in because of pottery.

>How many of you actually play it?

It's a neat gimmick, I'll give him that. But it's obnoxious having to do it every time in the Wii U's half-assed Classic Mode, especially on higher difficulties.

>like with Ice Climbers (if they do come back)

I will have Sakurai's head if they don't.

ca2630 No.14486558


>Has Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console?

Yeah he was in some GBA game. Think it was a Kingdom Hearts game or something.

fb408f No.14486576

File: e3bb2f01e1cbadb⋯.png (168.98 KB, 402x292, 201:146, mfw no.png)


TBH I rather not have any indie characters in Smash, even if it is Quote. The main reason as to why is simply because they don't feel warranted/big enough to be in, nor should they be in the mess pile that is Smash.

However, the reason as to why I can see Shovel Knight in is because he has an amiibo already, a cute design and a potential for an interesting moveset like most here but whatever, and is a very popular indie game. Also, in terms of character, its kind of hard to hate him, hes pretty chilled.


The thing is Bayonetta was always requested for Smash, it made sense for her to be in this one because of her being Nintendo exclusive or at least mind as well make her exclusive now and unlike Senran :^) she can actually

be toned down from her usual M rated games.


Ice Climbers are coming back, I mean, it only make sense right?


Cloud was in that one rhythm game for the 3DS, but at least Cloud still makes more sense of being in than Madotsuki. Like nigga what moveset would she even have lmao

af8f5b No.14486605

File: f8d2647931c837f⋯.png (1.48 MB, 1796x1187, 1796:1187, Proteus Ridley.png)

File: 14973fc2a7efd76⋯.jpg (142.44 KB, 1728x1487, 1728:1487, Metroid Zeta SR.jpg)

Considering Samus Returns did well, I'd say Dark Samus, Proteus Ridley, and the Zeta Metroid have a chance.

I'm betting that decideueye, some mario fuck, 4 more fire emblem characters, and more promotional shit will be included instead.

K rool will remain a Mii costume, Ganondorf will remain a clone, and Wario will continue to stray from anything having to do with Wario

bb8f35 No.14486614


>Like nigga what moveset would she even have lmao

They pulled a moveset for ROB out of their asses, how hard can a girl with weird dream abilities be.

4f1690 No.14486615

File: 7c36b5a838fae92⋯.png (69.48 KB, 600x616, 75:77, 2765201d73c5fabd68db578866….png)


I don't want to put too much time into something so unlikely, but Madotsuki's moveset would be really easy. It's kind of pathetic why you'd make such a big deal about it considering how easy it would be. Almost every one of her effects could find a place in her moveset.

af8f5b No.14486617

File: c1979d8cd8a754d⋯.png (1.09 MB, 1005x1226, 1005:1226, Ganondorf trident render.png)



bruh, if a spear guy got in, then Sakura would have to swallow his lies and make Ganondorf not-a-clone and he ain't about to do that shit

90697a No.14486621


Switch is potentially "weaker" then the Wii U. Really depends if they got the hang of the ARM Cortex-A57 processor. Fucking tablet bs, but damn if it isn't Green. Also, Arm processors work better with ram, "somehow" I don't know the nitty gritty, but I do know if you did stack two "equivalent cpus" of Intel/AMD vs ARMs, they end up having numerious differences are what one does better then the other, and I mean on a very "low level" level.

d4f9d7 No.14486632


>I can't think of any Final Fantasy games period that showed up on Nintendo consoles past the SNES era.

Outside of the GBA/DS ports, there was Crystal Chronicles, XII: Revenant Wings, Tactics A, Fables, Crystal Defenders, 4: The After Years, The 4 Heroes of Light, Explorers, Theatrhythm, a few Chocobo games, a few Kingdom Hearts games, and most of the SaGa series.

c9d8fb No.14486670

File: 3a6b7d739c55457⋯.png (255.8 KB, 720x400, 9:5, 2big4u.png)



doesn't afraid of anything!

16dc44 No.14486679


You're an idiot.

186bbd No.14486680


I don't think a character not being popular or "big" enough is reason to exclude them from smash. But, Nintendo has a lot of unpopular, not big characters they could use instead. They don't really have a reason to resort to a third party.

Look at how popular Ice Climbers got after they showed up in Smash. And before that, no one really knew who they were. Nintendo has so much opportunity to revive abandoned IP and characters with smash. I think it'll be a huge disappointment if we see a ton of third party characters. It was already a huge disappointment to see so much of the Smash 4 roster taken by only a few franchises.

Nintendo needs to revive some of their older franchises. They are flying through their staple franchises on Switch, mainly because it's selling well enough that they can invest in making more first party games. Seeing Smash bring back some old, abandoned characters would help Nintendo out in the long run.


I dunno, I think Switch has an advantage. Wii U CPU was an old POWER CPU with a few new features thrown on to make it not seem so ancient. And the supposed clock speed was only low 1ghz range on three cores.

Switch already has 4 A57 cores at 1020mhz and 4 A53 cores. And ARM is a low clock speed, high performance per clock architecture, and the POWER in the Wii U is for high clock speed, low performance per clock.

Switch CPU should run circles around Wii U CPU. I doubt Switch CPU can function as a true 8 core CPU, but even the 4 A57 cores would be much better than what the Wii U has.

From what I've seen, Switch doesn't stand out so much from Wii U graphically because of the GPU. Normal Tegra X1 GPU speed is over 1ghz, but to prevent it from turning into an Nvidia housefire, Nintendo set max clockspeed docked in the 700mhz range, and in portable it's only in the 300mhz range.

d5cf67 No.14486692

File: 0ff794f5298b463⋯.jpg (126.01 KB, 500x374, 250:187, gaper mario the thousand c….jpg)


Decidueye is a given. There's people requesting him and Greninja was in Sm4sh.


>Nintendo has a lot of unpopular, not big characters they could use instead.

This is part of the reason I want Wonder Red. Wonderful 101 did terribly and that's a damn shame. It'll probably be ported but it'll still sell like shit due to the Platinum Curse.

5810ac No.14486706


>Nintendo needs to revive some of their older franchises

Agreed. I'd love it if they brought back Panel de Pon, fairies included, because the GBC game was one of my favorite games growing up.

4ebff6 No.14486725

File: 344d13453af5d00⋯.png (775.39 KB, 893x1253, 893:1253, ^CA3E87D772C19D8662A45525C….png)




Waluigi wouldn't be interesting, frankly, unless they gave him a Spin-off based moveset. Base it on Mario Party, Kart and Tennis, and we'll be set, but otherwise there's nothing original to do with him.




I just don't think there's ever been an indie that I see as Smash-worthy. I suppose nothing ever stood out as that great, as capturing the feel of what it was supposed to. A fitting indie would probably be from one of those Rare-vivals, but none of them have been that good so far. If Nintendo gets behind one of them one day and there's a good one that comes out, then maybe I'd see that indie character as more fitting.


I want The Frog For Whom The Bell Tolls to come back in some way that isn't just an Assist Trophy for Smash. Maybe a Small budget sequel, or some half-remake-half-sequel like LBW.

a0517e No.14486740


I didn't say he only makes good decisions. I think he's right in saying that people should stop trying to swerve what kind of characters should or should not be in Smash since they're not developing it. It's also wrong to add a hundred characters that are just FE reps because that's popular so that'll sell.


>Platinum Curse.

They bring this on themselves to be honest. They absolutely need to improve their marketing department, if they even have one.

90697a No.14486752






These are a measure of speed not work. Arm processors are not the same as x86/x86-64 Intel/AMD architecture. In order to get the "true performance" of a CPU you need the Speed x Work per cycle. A Cycle being roughly a single hertz. Saying an ARM Processor is better then because its "faster" is saying a Ferrari is better then a semi-truck, but your job was to carry Pianos. The separate cores on the other hand is like having 8 Ferrari to your 3 semi-trucks. In anycase they are completely different weight class. There is a reason why all desktops and laptops still use Cpus that require over 100 watts of power, despite ARM processors that can be charged and powered by a 2 watt usb micro cable are around.

186bbd No.14486783


That's why I mentioned ARM is geared toward more work in fewer cycles and POWER is geared toward less work in more cycles. The more work you do per cycle, generally the lower frequency your CPU runs at.

POWER is more like AMD Bulldozer, Intel Netburst (Pentium 4). ARM is more like Ryzen or Intel Core.

CPUs are almost always a trade off between work per clock cycle and how may clock cycles you can get in a second. The really good CPU architectures are the ones that break the average balance between the two.

I know mhz between CPU architectures is not the same and can't be used to compare performance. But ARM gets more done per clock cycle than POWER does. And if they are running at similar speeds, ARM definitely has an advantage.

fb408f No.14486789



You know what, I was thinking about it more and maybe you're right. Most characters in Smash movesets are made up on the spot anyway. If it sounded as if I was making a big deal about it, my bad, it was unintentional. However I still don't see her being in the game Unless Yume Nikki gets a switch port, but even then, no lol.


Shovel Knight comes close enough to me of being Smash worthy, but even then, I don't think it should happen. If anything Rare at all, possibly Banjo-Kazooie, but that won't happen. never ever :'^(

d4f9d7 No.14486797


>If anything Rare at all, possibly Banjo-Kazooie, but that won't happen. never ever :'^(

What about Conker?

4ebff6 No.14486806



To be fair, Microsoft has been pretty friendly with Nintendo on occasion, especially on the subject of Rare. Rare made GBA and DS games as MS doesn't have a handheld, so it's not competition.

If anything happens, it will most likely be Banjo, but I'd love Conker, personally, because Banjo-Kazooie was mediocre.

186bbd No.14486841


Naw, MS is thirsty enough for people to give a shit about their exclusive franchises that they'd pay Nintendo a shit load of money to have Banjo Kazooie in the game. I doubt Nintendo would do it though, since it'd be advertising an exclusive on another system. Unless MS starts making strides to go third party and publishes a Banjo game on Nintendo hardware. Which, given how poorly Xbone has been doing, and how MS has completely fucked up almost every single original IP they have, I wouldn't be surprised.

I think there is a good chance the FF7 remake ends up on Switch, because Cloud was in Smash. FF7 remake is using Unreal Engine instead of SE's Luminous Engine they used in FF15. Luminous Engine has no optimization for Switch, and SE tried to get it FF15 running on Switch and it needed a lot of work. But UE runs very well on Switch.

4ebff6 No.14486892


>I doubt Nintendo would do it though, since it'd be advertising an exclusive on another system

Part of the deal might be to get Conker and Banjo on the N64 Classic or the Virtual console.

>I think there is a good chance the FF7 remake ends up on Switch, because Cloud was in Smash. FF7 remake is using Unreal Engine instead of SE's Luminous Engine they used in FF15.

I get the feeling it will be a timed exclusive, like N-Sane trilogy.

7e4457 No.14486951


>Which, given how poorly Xbone has been doing, and how MS has completely fucked up almost every single original IP they have, I wouldn't be surprised.

Wasn't the Xbox always designed to be a tax shelter for Microsoft?

186bbd No.14486999


Yeah, but you'd think they'd at least limp franchises along. It's not like they want Xbox division to be a failure. But they really do kill AA and smaller studios and their games.

Xbox released in 2001. It's been almost 17 years. Where are the memorable first party franchises that Xbox gamers are waiting for? They don't have anything. They tried buying so much to try and get some. They even bought out Rareware, which should have been easy mode for making successful games and franchises, and fucked it all up. I think MS realized they can't sell consoles based on their first party IP any more, and that's why, in order to set themselves apart from Nintendo and Sony, who do have good first party games (well at least popular enough to sell consoles), they tried to play up TV and media since they didn't have games to hype people up for that they knew would be a success on the level of a new Mario game or new Smash.

If anyone else was behind Xbox, besides MS, the console would be dead by now. But my guess is MS will have no problem limping Xbox along and pimping out IP. I can almost guarantee you the next Xbox will be entirely gimmicks on how to play games differently, instead of having games people want to play. Switch has already set a precedent that people will jump all over hardware that lets you play games differently, with Switch being a hybrid portable/console. The suits at MS are looking at that at thinking how they can come up with some alternate way to play games, since they know they can't build hype and sell hardware with a game release of their own.

But we're getting off topic, I think. As much as I love to shit on MS, this is a Smash thread.

Regardless, I think MS is going to keep opening up their IP and trying to build it on other company's hardware. I am pretty sure with Xbone, they've given up on trying to sell console hardware with just first party games alone. It's probably got a lot to do with why Scalebound was canceled too. But as you said, Xbox division is a good corporate shenanigans tool for MS, it'll never go away unless it absolutely hemorrhages money and MS finds itself in trouble. But I am a little optimistic about some MS IP showing up on other consoles. It doesn't have to be 5ma5h, but they will definitely be looking to pimp out the franchises they've bought and destroyed.

90697a No.14487088


I doubt a 16 watt machine. Based on the battery for the switch 4.31 amp x 3.7 volts = 15.947 is comparable to a 75 watt machine. Damn Wii U was pretty light on energy. Especially with shared titles showing very similar levels of performance and framerate drops. Although again, programmers not use to the new ARM archtecture vs end of life POWERpc. I know from previous research that an ARM Cortex-A7, with all 4 cores running about 1 ghz, equaled a single core mid range Pentium 4. I know ARM Cortex-A8 promised the damn moon, but there is no way, running at the same clock speed, a single core on an A8 is equal to POWERpc if POWER was suppose to be running with x86 and x86-64s. Unless its cpu registers have really nice short cuts. I can believe, however, that multiple, "even two" combined can be faster then one POWER's cores.

And of course, proper and clever threading for the multiple cores would have a large performance boost, while bad threading coding could end up bottle-necking multiple smaller core, where fewer bigger cores would then end up doing better. I'm basing this on benchmark tests they did for Breath of the Wild, where everyone seemed to be confused why the Wii U and the Switch had framerate drops in completely different areas. Some areas the Wii U outshine the Switch, and vice versa. Also the Switched usually "but not always" outshines the Wii U if its docked, but all the games are designed to work with an undocked Switch, so that was I'm largely basing that theory on.

In any case, I still stand by my original statement that the Switch's hardware is very near Wii-U's level, especially if they don't code the software correctly to take advantage of the switches hardware and architecture. This post is getting too long.

90697a No.14487122

>>14487088 (You) (You)

>I doubt a 16 watt machine is comparable to a 75 watt machine.

I meant in terms of single cores. In terms of the whole machine's hardware.

Switch full power/potential > Wii U full power/potential.

3db2ec No.14487161


You just can't get it right, can you?

186bbd No.14487164


Nope, Tegra X1 is 16nm and Wii U CPU is 45nm. That's a huge difference. 45nm is fucking ancient, for reference, Intel was on 45nm with their second generation Core 2 series and the Core 2 Quads. Meanwhile, CPUs like Ryzen and Intel's latest CPUs are on, or very close to, 16nm. We saw the first Wolfdale Core 2 CPUS in 2008…

I think people really, really underestimate how much Nintendo had to cut corners with Wii U CPU and GPU to pay for all the gimmicks they put into the other hardware. And Switch is basically a no-gimmicks (outside of being a hybrid) gaming device.

bd2c38 No.14487180


Cloud was in that one Kingdom Hearts game on the GBA.

50fc53 No.14487187

File: 5087a22ec22ec4e⋯.png (1.73 MB, 3212x1218, 1606:609, Newcomer Tiers The pool so….png)

Finally new smash thread

50fc53 No.14487197


Sakurai would never allow it

4ebff6 No.14487201


Looking at this made me think that I'd probably struggle to come up with 10 newcomers I'd really be excited for. I'll have to sit down and think about it more later.

50fc53 No.14487222


Would be 100 better than Shantae the whore

imagine those Overpowered no start-up, no recovery Aerials with the nail.

>B is Spirit of Vengeance

>double jump is butterfly wings

>Banshee wail is Uair

>His uniqueness is all his attacks are really strong with B and cost soul. When you hit an enemy you gain soul.

>you can recover HP by using soul with downB

>side B is crystal forward dash

>rolling has the animation of Dashing, so it is very fast rolling with little lag

Sakurai would probably Sakurai him up and make up attacks of A moves with the nail, knowing him.

1c61c2 No.14487229


Rare is western but they're Microsoft's bitch so K.Rool, Banjo, etc. would probably never get in.

50fc53 No.14487236


How did you give him double (You)s?

50fc53 No.14487241


k. rool is not rare property. He's under the DK IP

a0517e No.14487272

File: 207d37f03babb51⋯.png (36.82 KB, 640x960, 2:3, ClipboardImage.png)




50fc53 No.14487288


Too stupid

90697a No.14487291




>How much Nintendo had to cut corners with Wii U CPU and GPU to pay for all the gimmicks they put into the other hardware.

After reading up on it, I believe it now. I did not realize it was IBM based. Fuck, when was the last time IBM made a new CPU? It looks like Nintendo got the last ones.

7e4457 No.14487317


>No Pious Augustus

>No Kyle Hyde

>No Doomguy

>No Bayonetta

>No Reimu

And, into the trash it goes.

0a68b3 No.14487327


8 player smash was perfect for the 5 and 6 player matches. Actually used it a lot, but only had full 8 player matches on one occasion. I hope at least 6 player smash makes it in.

a0e40b No.14487330

File: 36e51074e67a04d⋯.jpg (61.86 KB, 332x276, 83:69, 1407734590826.jpg)


>No Sora on that list

Do you guys have something against Sora or do you just think hes gay?

5810ac No.14487342


Actually outside of that, what new modes or features would you want from this game? I was thinking maybe something similar to Project M's All-Star VS mode, where you use a random set of characters per stock. That, or maybe a tag-team system where you choose one character per stock, but nerf it so you get three or have to rotate to change instead of picking who you want to send out.

b33b86 No.14487353


RIP grid of cropped porn and embarrassing cosplay. Also,



His gayness is what I have against him

4ca220 No.14487362


I highly doubt Mike Jones will ever make it given that his series was intended for a western audience. I bet nips don't know who he is.

1c61c2 No.14487376


That's been the Castlevania art style from Symphony of the Night to Aria of Sorrow, and other than the outfit I think the style looks pretty good. If by some miracle Simon were to get in, his 80s barbarian design would probably at least be an alternate look

0a68b3 No.14487382


I usually play with stocks so variations of that, having a different character per stock would be cool if the switch can handle dealing with a lot of different characters in a match. A tag system like in more traditional fighters would also be neat.


And I went through the trouble of cropping some too, Xenoblade 2 doesn't have enough porn

86bbd5 No.14487384



>Wonder Red

>Alexandra Roivas/Pious Augustus

>K. Rool

Assist trophy

>Lip (A Panel de Pon game appears from the ground and acts as a tall wall, though it can be climbed. Lip stands next to it and as the PdP puzzle is solved lip makes motions with her stick that damages those hit)

>MC Mode (Runs up to nearby fighter and critiques their outfit, all characters that wear clothes have unique dialog)


I'm not sure how Kyle Hyde would do as a playable character. Good material for an assist trophy.


PoP is actually still creator owned.

7e4457 No.14487387

File: c68042c775978bb⋯.png (99.32 KB, 188x528, 47:132, Ayane_(Dead_or_Alive).png)

Pure speculation for third-part characters, how likely could a KT rep show up? Given Nintendo's ties with the company for the past number of years, it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. As far as who would be the rep, I think Ayane would be getting that role due to how many of their series she appears in.

5810ac No.14487402


>how likely could a KT rep show up?

Well there were those Ninja Gaiden games on the NES from when Koei and Tecmo were separate, so it's not entirely impossible for Ryu Hayabusa to show up.

ab8f4a No.14487411





Okay people need to remember something important about the Smash roster, the final roster is made at the START of development, not the year of release or unveiling. Brawl's roster was 2005 (with late of addition of Sonic in 2007) while Smash 4 was 2012 (and then DLC after release).

With that info Switch Smash roster (assuming 2 years dev time starting in 2016), there shouldn't be any character from after that point, so Sans/Undertale shouldn't be considered because it wasn't on a Nintendo platform. For post release DLC though, who knows what could happen then.

186bbd No.14487418


I want an online chaos mode. Randomly changes launch rate between .5 and 2, randomly selects a few items and sets them to spawn either medium or high amounts, randomly changes game speed between .75 and 1.5. Just make it complete chaos, and you never know what you'll get. You could end up with tons of bobombs, those blower things, hammers, etc.

It needs a better single player and coop too. As much as I thought Brawl was mediocre, at least it had a really good single player mode.


Yeah, threads like these totally aren't data collection threads for new character ideas! Smash 5 roster is already locked in! But lets talk about who should be in the game and why!

4ebff6 No.14487425


It depends on how much Nintendo wants an "indie" rep, because part of me thinks that, since they went with Cloud for the FF rep, they'd pick the biggest indie success as their go-to.

7a2dba No.14487426

File: a7796ad555c66fc⋯.png (196.18 KB, 386x476, 193:238, serveimage.png)

Odds on Dillon? The game must be popular if it got 2 sequels, right?

2b4c4e No.14487442


>I dislike lucario because he's centered around rewarding the player for being bad at the game. It's great for masochists who are all into screaming "oh yes daddy, hurt me more" while at the smash tournies (smash tournaments, top kek) when your shit is getting slapped

4222a2 No.14487453


I'd say its more likely that LABO gets in.

4ebff6 No.14487467

File: 88befbd1ecba300⋯.jpg (85.83 KB, 900x1042, 450:521, 88befbd1ecba3006bddadabc6b….jpg)


>I'd say its more likely that LABO gets in.

I'm okay with this.

78aa57 No.14487472


There will definitely be Labo presence, but as a stage rather than a character. Dumbass.

4ebff6 No.14487479

File: 808922658916114⋯.jpg (16.83 KB, 512x288, 16:9, 80892265891611497eb355d590….jpg)


But I can't fuck a stage.

7a2dba No.14487494


That could actually be cool.

I don't care for Dillon or his games tbh. The thought just struck me cuz he was in the direct

186bbd No.14487499


Anon I'm very disappointed.

8bb7ea No.14487510


Eh, it's more just of a Advance Wars character but Sami might be the best choice. Or they could do a CO change where you have a Pokemon Trainer in the background but instead a CO and your character you fight with are the units.

4222a2 No.14487511


We're obviously going to get snake back but this time he'll hide in a LABO box instead.

3db2ec No.14487518


You are not creative enough then.

b33b86 No.14487519


>his dick can't penetrate the earth itself


That'd be rad

c9d8fb No.14487544


The worst part is he doesn't even have a low-HP buff ability in the mainline Pokémon games, but DOES have flinch immunity, which would be immensely more useful in a fighting game, so the "rewarding for playing badly" gimmick has no excuse.

677199 No.14487565


But I fucked your mom last night.

50fc53 No.14487567


Sora is a NEVER EVER because of Disney

This is why Sora doesn't show up on Dissidia.

7e4457 No.14487656

File: 479f0b479f3c356⋯.webm (8.28 MB, 480x270, 16:9, Last Window - Trailer DS.webm)

File: 74d8b4cfb305f6a⋯.webm (5.3 MB, 256x172, 64:43, Trailer hotel dusk room 2….webm)


>I'm not sure how Kyle Hyde would do as a playable character.

<A former detective working as a salesman for Red Crown, a door-to- door sales company. Kyle also searches for any trace of his long- lost friend and colleague, Bradley. Although cool and suave, Kyle tends to let himself go in the midst of his obsessive behavior. The Red Crown president's secretary, Rachel, often gives him grief about his destructive habits.

Given what I've pulled up, the guy would mostly be a close range fighter. His regular attacks would be grounded in self-defense given his background in the police force, but his Smash attacks would be using various items and gadgets that players pick up and use in the games to solve puzzles. And, just to be "boring", his standing Smash would be firing 6 bullets from his revolver before he has to reload. However, his "look" would perhaps be the hardest part to pull off because they'd have to make a 3D model look like it's being rotoscoped.

d5cf67 No.14487698


I like how everyone went from making fun of the Labo to wanting to fuck it

c9d8fb No.14487714


And all his explosives will be replaced with pachinko balls.

50fc53 No.14487735

File: 60078155a5f8a34⋯.jpg (116.18 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 60078155a5f8a349e039938404….jpg)



c9d8fb No.14487758

File: 3538a045cc9d5ef⋯.gif (1.28 MB, 400x190, 40:19, who.gif)

f5a087 No.14487759

File: 0c9bd8b984efd24⋯.jpg (362.94 KB, 726x803, 66:73, 0c9bd8b984efd2490b95be8365….jpg)


I want her to but it will never happen

921f8a No.14487764


>wanting a character from an obscure Treasure game

If you wanted Treasure representation, you would be better off going with Saki. Though I'm tempted to pick Mischief Makers up.

50fc53 No.14487808


cuckchan go and stay go


smash released in the west before the east if i recall. Little Mac was their "western" rep

c42a73 No.14487810

File: 24e9c93052bf1ce⋯.gif (496.21 KB, 498x377, 498:377, 24e9c93052bf1ce17092390646….gif)

All I need is more classic representation and I can die happy. Smash Bros doesn't need new or contemporary characters, Smash Bros is supposed to be a celebration of Nintendo's history. Once Smash Bros contains every iconic classic Nintendo character possible, then I could understand adding obscure or newer characters.

4ca220 No.14487840


>smash released in the west before the east if i recall.

The Wii U version came out in the west first. The 3DS version, which came out first was releasing in Japan before the West.

86e62b No.14487849



>probably never grew up with Thracia or any other earlier Emblems

You stinking hipster, I can smell your lack of showers and kale shakes a mile away.

842f37 No.14487977

File: c3a7ac4d6352ca1⋯.jpg (561.16 KB, 3212x1218, 1606:609, fixed.jpg)


I fixed your terrible list.

git gud.

842f37 No.14487983



She's not a Nintendo character apparently, she's currently owned by Square Enix.

5810ac No.14488002

File: 7906a539b61307a⋯.jpg (58.44 KB, 640x449, 640:449, sexy parodius goodbye.jpg)


You're clearly not trying hard enough.

88003b No.14488008

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


he sounds like a fag

5810ac No.14488028

File: 14b81d0dc65d825⋯.png (176.08 KB, 1162x1148, 83:82, lipmad.png)


>Lip as an assist trophy

Get out of here.

3269be No.14488035



260fcc No.14488039

person who recently broke up with me was pretty into smash so rip

b33b86 No.14488042


Was he cute?

4f1690 No.14488043

File: d364780c6e34f28⋯.png (375.39 KB, 878x1618, 439:809, d364780c6e34f28e81c50031a9….png)


>No Porky

>No Madotsuki

>No Rune Factory representation

>No Etrian Odyssey representation

>Nobody from Bravely Default

>No Umihara Kawase

This has got to be the worst list I've ever seen in the last 16 hours

260fcc No.14488045

b33b86 No.14488046


I like Daffy better

d1595a No.14488052


>Cutting out Phoenix


5810ac No.14488056


I'd be more than okay with Doomguy if they use his 90's design and music.

4f1690 No.14488060

File: 0dd74d12425a2b3⋯.gif (95.55 KB, 500x346, 250:173, porky.gif)


Not THAT porky

260fcc No.14488062


Are you suggesting that you're not fond of Todd Howard's ZeniMax Doom - Brand Erasure Edition? But he made it specially for you, anon.

78aa57 No.14488066



Unless he is riding that thing from Earthbound or something, Kumatora would make for a much better MOTHER rep, honestly just get rid of Lucas already since he is a Ness clone.

4f1690 No.14488072


I wanted Porky because at least he can be riding the machines or something. Whether you put in Lucas, Kumatora, Paula, etc, the movesets will be the exact same, I assure you. Lucas is already borrowing canonical moves from Kumatora. Plus keep in mind you won't be able to see upskirt so there's really no point in her.

420d3b No.14488077

File: 074a375bb543a3e⋯.gif (34.89 KB, 400x454, 200:227, Hana1.gif)


Lip a cutie. Lip for Smash!


This gross purple whore can stay the fuck out though.

78aa57 No.14488086


>no upskirt

Oh right, I forgot about the E+10 thing. Yeah, I could see Porky working but faggots would use the "too big for smash" excuse. Which makes no sense considering that Olimar and DeDeDe are huge when they are actually small as shit.

49d274 No.14488089


>no Phoenix

Kill yourself.

420d3b No.14488095

File: f4714f483203451⋯.jpg (35.77 KB, 684x468, 19:13, foreman.jpg)


>"fixed the list"

>added a bunch of garbage tier animu shonen faggots and a game boy for some reason

>too retarded to understand that the list was /v/'s top 50

420d3b No.14488104

File: 01b133b11e7da99⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 6.39 MB, 2149x3035, 2149:3035, ClipboardImage.png)


No, we don't think he's gay.

We KNOW he's fucking gay.

86bbd5 No.14488108


What's wrong with that?

b33b86 No.14488111


She's a greedy slut

420d3b No.14488115

File: c572f3e7f0b6490⋯.png (41.82 KB, 364x349, 364:349, garfdunk.png)


>kyle hyde


>bayonetta, who is guaranteed to come back anyways

Yes I agree, into the trash your opinion goes

420d3b No.14488133

File: 93010a1c362b6b2⋯.gif (66.55 KB, 480x320, 3:2, monablush.gif)


My top 10 from this list.

10. Kumatora

9. Quote

8. Banjo-Kazooie

7. Twintelle

6. Bomberman

5. Ganbare Goemon

4. Lip

3. Dr. Eggman

2. Mona

1. Earthworm Jim

29b4c7 No.14488141



>My shit tastes represent /v/ as a whole

Smash is meant to be a Nintendo cross over, not mugen you underage faggots.

d1595a No.14488148

File: f823ebf840ec6d3⋯.png (68.15 KB, 329x217, 47:31, Dark_Matter.png)

Could it work, /v/?

4f1690 No.14488150

File: e14a6aa9d7a14c8⋯.png (680.38 KB, 697x697, 1:1, e14a6aa9d7a14c8d49f16d093b….png)


>this is supposed to be a nintendo cross over

>but quote and reimu are okay


29b4c7 No.14488155


As indie rep and only one

86e62b No.14488156


I wanna see Gooey grow up to be his own Dark Swordsman, but friendlier.

a0e40b No.14488171

File: 6241f9da060f114⋯.jpg (16.84 KB, 293x336, 293:336, 1461514003120.jpg)


>that spoiler

Anon you didnt have to do that.

4f1690 No.14488172

File: 35dc0998730e183⋯.jpg (54.79 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1472106008899-0.jpg)


Get with the times old man, Nintendo wouldn't profit by only allowing two representatives per franchise. The best selling fighting games nowadays profit off of having as many fighters to choose from as possible. Compare it to 20 years ago when SF, KI, and MK had only 6 or 8 fighters.

It's not necessarily a bad thing as long as they are balanced, but it's just the natural progression of fighting games as CD's and cartridges become larger and allow more space.

29b4c7 No.14488177

File: 82f6e1740d5ffe2⋯.png (201.59 KB, 300x450, 2:3, Dio_Brando_main_image.png)



>Phoenix meme

He was already in UMvC3 not to mention that Dante is a much more popular character and pairs with Bayonetta.

28aa22 No.14488187

i hope you all get killed

29b4c7 No.14488192

4ebff6 No.14488196


Dante's the most unlikely Capcom character, because he's the only one with no Nintendo history. Mega Man made sense, Phoenix is pretty synonymous with Nintendo handhelds, and aside from that, RE and MH are far more popular series than DMC, so they'd get a rep of some kind before Dante.

4f1690 No.14488198

File: 69ed4e64dfe6003⋯.png (47.27 KB, 317x266, 317:266, 69ed4e64dfe6003de1cd5bed3b….png)

d1595a No.14488199


Some of you are alright, don't come to smash threads tomorrow

b33b86 No.14488211


I agree, a niche indie PC game series for autistic score attackers and obsessive waifufags is perfectly representative of Nintendo's past and present


Dante was also in MvC3 and just showed up in MvCI


Too late; I'm already dead

16dc44 No.14488216



Odds are high considering he was an assist trophy in 4

a0e40b No.14488217

File: eaa72bf4ec1590b⋯.jpg (47.57 KB, 594x683, 594:683, edcc4e266f2d67fbfe188fef3f….jpg)

b33b86 No.14488222



29b4c7 No.14488223


Same could be said for Cloud and Snake

4ebff6 No.14488226


Well, Final Fantasy's the biggest Square series, and Cloud's the poster boy. Same with Snake and Metal Gear for Konami. Dante will never be that for Capcom.

78aa57 No.14488227


Why would you post that?

d1595a No.14488228


Outside of Megaman and Ryu, I think Phoenix is the go-to Capcom rep for a Smash entry. Ace Attorney games have always been on Nintendo consoles and bundles of them are included in all the eshops.

I like Dante, but he's about as unlikely as Cloud was. Anything could happen, I guess, but Monster Hunter is probably going to get represented instead.

78aa57 No.14488231


>What is MGS: The Twin Snakes and the crappy NES conversion of Metal Gear

>what is that GBC Babel game

29b4c7 No.14488235


It's huge in Japan, also Quote is the best indie choice bar none. Additionally DMC revolutionized action games. It's impact on the Industry is huge.

420d3b No.14488238

File: 32830770e5865b1⋯.gif (58.05 KB, 500x420, 25:21, wariolift.gif)

You know this dude needs to come back

Pumping that iron and getting ready for his real moveset. Heavyweight macho brawling with Wario Land powers.

29b4c7 No.14488243


>Implying Dante isn't Capcom third mascot

I like the ace attorney games, but it doesn't touch DMC.

78aa57 No.14488244


>best indie choice

Shovel Knight would be way more fun to play

10b0a5 No.14488249


Shit list and too much third party shitters, Bomberman, Jack Frost and Quote should be the only ones to be considered as a third party, only 4 of the first party characters should be included

567980 No.14488261


Invoker in Smash when?

29b4c7 No.14488281


I remember when I was young too. it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

e718be No.14488314

File: 5dce9f63d479fa9⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 61.91 KB, 640x899, 640:899, 22956_front.jpg)

pic related is gonna be the new retro rep as a tribute to iwata

221308 No.14488341


>implying it won't be Balloon Fighter, who was already considered once for Melee

4bbd33 No.14488358


All trash, but the other anon's replies aren't much better.

50fc53 No.14488362


it's not my list, it's what /v/ wants

I'm already adding an eternal darkness rep among other stuff to the list since it's being asked on this this thread

2381c0 No.14488363

File: 76fd0e31a8a4520⋯.jpg (35.52 KB, 300x400, 3:4, 499668 - Alice Balloon_Kid.jpg)


>Balloon Fighter

>instead of Alice fromBalloon Kid

God, where did I save all that fanart that kind anons drew for me anyway?

e718be No.14488368

File: c0af50f8c6914da⋯.png (418.03 KB, 512x640, 4:5, c0af50f8c6914da70d4d6e755f….png)


>implying the logical choice will ever happen under sakurai's reign

50fc53 No.14488404

File: b79d0a58063f4e4⋯.jpg (50.06 KB, 482x345, 482:345, ss (2016-11-14 at 08.42.37….jpg)

>ARMs rep is pretty much guaranteed

>it is some semen demon to rival ZSS

who are the ARMs waifus?

50fc53 No.14488411


I don't want lip

She's too literally who . Don't be greedy, be thankful she's an assist trophy

I rather see a puyo puyo rep than lip, because at least that brings some cool things to play with for moveset.

7e4457 No.14488420

File: 04bfe6169005979⋯.jpg (699.68 KB, 1516x3065, 1516:3065, Japan on Twintelle.jpg)


>who are the ARMs waifus?

c370de No.14488430


I hope its a male character just to spite you.

221308 No.14488437


it's probably gonna be Springman with Ribbon Girl alts

420d3b No.14488444

File: f6679e01e6f1021⋯.png (64.47 KB, 214x210, 107:105, dededeanger.png)


>Lip is too literaly who

>The star of Nintendo's flagship puzzle game series that everyone has played even though it's been under Yoshi and Pokemon names in the west

Fuck off loser. Being a literally who didn't stop your 9 million Fire Emblem and Xenoblade reps from appearing.

420d3b No.14488451

File: 86ade9790b83894⋯.jpg (652.64 KB, 2340x1640, 117:82, twintelle-twerk.jpg)


Twintelle, obviously.

c370de No.14488452



d931fb No.14488453


This, fucking shrek outsold Xenoblade Chronicles.

Shrek Confirmed.

7e4457 No.14488459

File: b807ac0d0fb3eff⋯.jpg (86.91 KB, 600x900, 2:3, 9a65064a9ce2689eef1b06c61a….jpg)

File: e521297fc894928⋯.jpg (100.01 KB, 713x900, 713:900, 44977dbf03f895fdc0ef315d91….jpg)

File: 676b6b66f2b2a57⋯.jpg (104.16 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 1089481-1395179.jpg)

File: f1a730470b5ac7f⋯.jpg (774.47 KB, 2480x3507, 2480:3507, f1a730470b5ac7fb0a76e88545….jpg)


I don't see a problem with this.

b33b86 No.14488460


>character from some puzzle game

>character only appeared in Japan

Honestly, you're lucky her flower dildo made it in as an item

>1 Xenoblade rep = 9,000,000

c370de No.14488465


I hope you choke on your own cum and die, homolord.

fb408f No.14488468

File: c835a6b2231b720⋯.jpg (50.85 KB, 640x718, 320:359, c835a6b2231b7209aa49de6919….jpg)


>Sorry, but I don't understand what this stupid foreigner is on about.

Wew lads, the japs went in hard on these fools.

Just because of this, I wouldn't mind Twintelle for Smash, but I believe Springman is a guarantee for Smash.

d1595a No.14488469


Villager's up-b is the closest we'll ever get.

420d3b No.14488472

File: f4bbda444acb6eb⋯.jpg (19.04 KB, 320x240, 4:3, garfglare.jpg)


>Character from some puzzle game

>Literally wants a Puyo Puyo rep

Nigga you 'tarded or somethin?

Also Lip appeared in the west indirectly a couple of times, her stage theme was unlockable in Planet Puzzle League, and she also got an unlockable costume in Animal Crossing Puzzle League.

d1595a No.14488473


Post your choices, if you're so great.

50fc53 No.14488476


Jokes on you, qt fuckboy is fine too

221308 No.14488478


They could easily change Villager's up-B though, like a vertical Lloyd Rocket or something

c370de No.14488484


>qt fuckboy

Oh fuck, the gay sure is spilling around lately. Go back to your sodomite board and stay there looking at asshole pictures or something.


7e4457 No.14488489

File: 0a514813cecccc7⋯.png (151.54 KB, 525x474, 175:158, v, every day.png)

File: 92e5cb17b19472e⋯.jpg (82.38 KB, 700x520, 35:26, VAdmitsTheTruth.jpg)

File: b789ed591cbd9e7⋯.png (23.44 KB, 972x391, 972:391, v fucks a girl by accident.png)

File: 865e58bbb383a90⋯.png (283.08 KB, 1080x1691, 1080:1691, gaymergate.png)

File: 93b4be96152e489⋯.jpg (71.69 KB, 936x710, 468:355, traps_are_not_gay2.jpg)


>Oh fuck, the gay sure is spilling around lately.


420d3b No.14488494

File: 6783e018ceaff96⋯.png (106.11 KB, 387x509, 387:509, 6783e018ceaff9600c090569e5….png)


Traps are gay, Anon.

e5cb6b No.14488496

File: bec9bc1fc5dd00a⋯.png (147.03 KB, 400x500, 4:5, 4A6D5F26-D239-4DCA-9C18-A3….png)

Post yfw she gets into smash

c370de No.14488499


Go and post this shit somewhere else, you deranged AIDS carriage. This is a Smash thread if you didn't notice.

0a68b3 No.14488502



I thought all rabids were male

221308 No.14488508


I'm not gonna bother getting this one if any Rabbids content gets in

1f00da No.14488511

Can Reimu even handle being in a game without Marisa? The last time that happened, it was Highly Responsive to Prayers. We know 3rd party IPs don't get more than a single rep. Can Marisa settle with being an Assist Trophy?

5810ac No.14488516


>her stage theme was unlockable in Planet Puzzle League

In Japan; her stage and appearance both got patched out because FUCKING TREEHOUSE wanted the fairies to STAY in Japan. However she did appear in Pokemon Puzzle Challenge as part of a hidden cheat code.

420d3b No.14488517

File: 6af2c6b65f4fe09⋯.gif (1.53 MB, 359x202, 359:202, 0ea.gif)


It'd be funny if this was a plot point for having Rayman in Smash

Rayman busts into Smash in a heroic attempt to save the rest of the video game world from the Rabbid menace

"They've destroyed my franchise and now they're coming for all of yours!!! We have to stop them now!!!"

e5cb6b No.14488528


Would be a great reveal trailer.

The salt from all the people that unironically want rabbids as characters would be delicious.

4b1650 No.14488530

File: aed7c34a821c235⋯.jpeg (66.2 KB, 720x685, 144:137, seinfag.jpeg)


>deranged AIDS carriage

>Smash thread

What's the difference?

e5cb6b No.14488565

>Good taste


Simon Belmont


Rhythm Heaven rep

Advance Wars rep

Paper Mario

Elite Beat Agents


Mother rep




K. Rool

>shit taste

Sans (or any indie character)








Any fire emblem character with a sword

50fc53 No.14488587


Will be rayman if anything

f6c756 No.14488590



Rayman didn't get a AAA crossover game with Mario though. The rabbids did.

44eccd No.14488592



Fuck off

420d3b No.14488597

File: db46e6aef794eef⋯.png (50.8 KB, 800x814, 400:407, ClipboardImage.png)

File: b171d7d21e75453⋯.png (201.23 KB, 1746x1592, 873:796, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 2e67603ff4c9549⋯.png (63.13 KB, 1118x815, 1118:815, ClipboardImage.png)

File: b27eed3993583e7⋯.png (75.5 KB, 1866x745, 1866:745, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 41ea90e1e093c8b⋯.png (48.95 KB, 1026x856, 513:428, ClipboardImage.png)



Yeah, Ashleyfags can screw, Mona is better

e5cb6b No.14488640



Ah, I see you’re a man of taste.

88e5cd No.14488657


>Waluigi wouldn't be interesting, frankly, unless they gave him a Spin-off based moveset. Base it on Mario Party, Kart and Tennis, and we'll be set, but otherwise there's nothing original to do with him.

Nigger did you actually play the games he's in that give him unique abilties? He has shit load of original stuff.

e5cb6b No.14488658


We must hope that Massive Hero Soccer Guy doesn’t give in

He’s been pretty good about choosing iconic characters over newer characters, the exception being the FE cast. I’m sure he’ll realize Rayman would be the better choice, or at least know that Rabbids don’t deserve to be characters if he actually thought about it for more than 2 seconds.

ab8f4a No.14488664


>be thankful she's an assist trophy

Well no one can be thankful because she isn't even an assist trophy, just the "Lip's Stick" flower item.


Remember the sad fact that only one assist trophy out of the 27 from Brawl became a newcomer for Smash 4. It was Little Mac if your still wondering

420d3b No.14488672

File: 7869bd5932f86ad⋯.png (348.03 KB, 769x1038, 769:1038, ClipboardImage.png)


Those drawings are my OC, I've been working on a moveset for her. I think she's a legitimately better choice than Ashley because she more closely represents the bizarre and quirky humor of the Warioware series, and would also provide them an excuse to revamp Wario to a Wario Land moveset ("you can't say you don't have a Warioware rep, now make Wario more like his Land self!")

Things I haven't drawn yet:

>Forward B is a moped rush, functions similar to Wario's bike, but she can perform attacks like hot donuts and flips

>Down B makes her pull out a pet, which wanders around the stage like Dedede's waddle dees in brawl, except these critters attack the opponents by flinging banana peels, kicking soccer balls or shooting sticky goop

>Tilts and smashes are all based on her microgames and other jobs she's had:

>Down Smash makes her pull out a guitar and play a power chord, which causes pyrotechnics to light up around her

>Forward Smash is based on her "nighttime allergies" microgame - the attack itself is a sneeze, and then she sniffles up the booger that it causes

>Final Smash, she realizes she's late for work, zooms forward on her moped, then opponents find themselves on a paved highway. Mona comes zooming down the road with a zillion cop cars chasing after her which all crash into the opponents, and then her pig comes out and kicks a round bomb into all of them making them fly everywhere.

50fc53 No.14488686

What are the chances Sakurai surprises us all with some obscure videogame character nobody was expecting?

e5cb6b No.14488687

0a68b3 No.14488688


very high, it happens every time as far as I know

e5cb6b No.14488690


Sm4sh was the peak though, I don’t know how you top Cloud in terms of surprises.

420d3b No.14488691

File: 85697302a049016⋯.png (212.92 KB, 680x760, 17:19, ClipboardImage.png)


I'd like it to be this guy.

567980 No.14488696


0a68b3 No.14488698

File: 6debe15db4eca5b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 255.85 KB, 1231x1984, 1231:1984, new_challenger.png)


I hope he tries to top it, it seemed to work pretty well last time

e5cb6b No.14488705


This is pure autism but I thought of the same thing (Wario getting Land moves, Mona getting WarioWare moves) before so I approve.

now post mona porn you dirty fuck

677199 No.14488722




420d3b No.14488727

File: 1e5745bedd9f1de⋯.png (6.38 MB, 1600x1999, 1600:1999, ClipboardImage.png)


I think this guy would be pretty surprising.

It's completely possible now that he appeared in Minecraft on Switch.

e5cb6b No.14488742


Yea, except unlike Snake he needs his guns to even feel Halo-like

And that’s a no go if they want to keep a T rating

420d3b No.14488791


Does he really?

Chief has lots of really iconic sci-fi weapons and equipment that aren't ballistic weaponry.

>Spartan Laser

>Energy Sword

>Gravity Hammer

>Rocket Launcher

>Plasma Grenades

>Plasma Rifle

>Covenant Carbine


>Armor Abilities and Equipment from Halo 3 and Reach, such as the Bubble Shield, Armor Lock, and Jetpack

e5cb6b No.14488803


Fuck it’s been so long I forgot about all that.

I think he’d still feel out of place in Smash, but who knows.

32b2bd No.14488810


Meanwhile Smash 4 has Bayonetta who has a pistol for each limb and that game was rated E10+.

e5cb6b No.14488883


Probably because the guns were smaller.


d4f9d7 No.14488918

File: eb41d93fe9659fc⋯.png (72.08 KB, 1425x389, 1425:389, Capture _2018-03-15-00-54-….png)

80d3cc No.14488941

File: d7cddfda13f4eb3⋯.jpg (84.84 KB, 787x605, 787:605, 152052223791.jpg)


>Final Smash: He rides a Black Hole NeoTank in the background and begins to shoot the everliving fuck out of everyone with both the cannon (Jan) and machine gun (special).

420d3b No.14488948

File: 97e4250bb088414⋯.jpg (49.04 KB, 805x658, 115:94, stewart.jpg)


>Will play like Melee

>Only four characters viable

>Competitive play will revolve around exploits and unintentional bugs

>Only autist savants will be able to compete

>No interesting characters or stages in competitive play

e5cb6b No.14488952


It’s either that or just Bayonetta meta. Pick your poison

420d3b No.14488967

File: b4b5deccdc8c3fb⋯.jpeg (163.14 KB, 1407x2000, 1407:2000, 5dc1cb0e666a422ef33a490b2….jpeg)


At least Bayonetta's a cool character. Sexy witch lady and not just a furry or a stupid anime fuccboi with a sword.

c1181e No.14489158

File: f54bbef8f9ee795⋯.gif (392.41 KB, 500x452, 125:113, WAH.gif)



420d3b No.14489176

File: 808926f2a5d1ec9⋯.jpg (24.67 KB, 672x499, 672:499, sonicunimpressed.jpg)


I don't get why people are so fucking gay over Waluigi. The sheer autism displayed by the people who want him playable make me hate him more and more as time goes on.

What the fuck would he even do as a fighter? Some stretchy limb punches and kicks like Dhalsim?

eab44b No.14489213


>the cheering guys 4panel meme

I never noticed before but how did they switch positions?

1241ad No.14489267


>what would the guy who only shows up to have fun doing sports and playing games with his friends do?

Gee, maybe something related to games and sports?

420d3b No.14489283

File: 7614e05d250924c⋯.png (879.17 KB, 900x506, 450:253, ClipboardImage.png)


>Games and sports

Okay, so what's so special about him? Why should he get in over, say, Daisy, who would also have a moveset based on games and sports?

1241ad No.14489360



>a character from mainline Mario games

What part of only sports and games did you not get? Are you going to suggest Pauline next?

In addition, any non-special moves for Daisy would almost certainly be direct clones from Peach because they even look nearly identical, while there's no character with a similar build and animation as Waluigi.

420d3b No.14489458


>From mainline Mario games

She's only appeared in ONE mainline Mario game, and that was Super Mario Land on the Game Boy. All the rest of her appearances have been in sports/kart/party titles. It doesn't change the fact that if they were going to use a moveset for her it would be based on her appearances in those games. So the question still stands, why is Waluigi more special than her? They'd both have the exact same moveset as far as I can tell, with the lone exception that Waluigi has potential for stretchy limb attacks.

29b4c7 No.14489674


>It's not my list


29b4c7 No.14489677



Underage fags I swear

32b2bd No.14489692

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


>What the fuck whould he even do as a fighter?

Knowing Nintendo, at the bare minimum he would theoretically have a moveset similar to Wario's with a couple of spinoff-related moves such as video related. Also Project M and Ridley because fuck all of you.

c9d8fb No.14489761

File: 492247eb6e43bd6⋯.png (158.65 KB, 1206x474, 201:79, jackoff.png)

File: 5236e2ed8aae90b⋯.jpg (134.29 KB, 1200x539, 1200:539, 523.jpg)

File: 58b7add97caba95⋯.png (111.81 KB, 1212x462, 202:77, 58b.png)


>I'd want this just for the massive SJW asshurt.

There's no need for a third-party character to do that, since SJWs are butthurt at all times.

420d3b No.14489834

File: 934e2647e43f4b5⋯.jpg (21.97 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 27b.jpg)



>First Rayman was a launch game for the PSX

I ain't even all that hype about Rayman but get your facts together fool.

af8f5b No.14489920

File: 7b6e9f9ddb3f8da⋯.webm (3.53 MB, 400x210, 40:21, Wario World Trailer.webm)


>Actual musclebound Wario who throttles the shit out of everyone

I miss him.

af8f5b No.14489947

File: b15e53ed6679a30⋯.jpg (112.21 KB, 685x600, 137:120, gratuitusly massive.jpg)


The argument of "what would they even do?" is fucking hilarious.

<What would Little mac even do? Punch?

>Yes, ALL the punches!

<what would miis do?

>whatever the fuck they want

<villager would be pretty impossible

>evidently not you god damn hack

<what would captain falcon do?

>just fucking give him every super sentai move you can think of because fuck you

420d3b No.14489962

File: 1e5bc5ca5c507be⋯.png (440.68 KB, 648x432, 3:2, ClipboardImage.png)


>I want the NES Power & Reset buttons playable! What? Think of a moveset? I don't have to do that because that's Nintendo's job not mine!

32b2bd No.14489975

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


A fangame has a literal punching bag with no limbs as a character and they gave it a complete moveset.

420d3b No.14490003

File: cd08416a0d50a93⋯.jpg (20.65 KB, 480x468, 40:39, mio.jpg)


>Moveset consists of nothing but flailing aggressively

>Just because they can do it means they should

32b2bd No.14490012


>not wanting to aggressively flail at opponents

You sound like you don't want to have fun.

7e4457 No.14490025

File: 6f3895fbc84e54d⋯.mp4 (10.88 MB, 540x360, 3:2, WAKU WAKU 7 BONUS KUN VS A….mp4)


>A fangame has a literal punching bag

Sunsoft also did that 23 years ago.

49d274 No.14490162

File: 156d4e7a5115aa8⋯.gif (1.51 MB, 1067x720, 1067:720, 1440704132461.gif)


>comparing inanimate objects with actual characters

Fact of the matter is, if Sakurai managed to come up with a moveset for the Villager he can come up with a moveset for anyone.

420d3b No.14490192

File: 4b79fa78f8154e1⋯.png (31.28 KB, 400x400, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)


Again. Why should he?

If he wanted to he could totally make a moveset for a fucking Goomba. That doesn't mean he should make Goomba playable.

49d274 No.14490201


And why shouldn't he?

420d3b No.14490212


Because a Goomba is not a character and just a generic enemy?

Are you seriously this retarded?

4ebff6 No.14490215


Because this isn't Mugen, we don't need 300 random shitty characters to bloat the fucking cast.

32b2bd No.14490218


>not wanting to make your opponents feel shame for being bodied by a lowly enemy

5810ac No.14490219


I'm expecting it to be in the inevitable roster leak near launch, and everyone assuming that specific leak is fake because of muh pixels.

49d274 No.14490237

File: e1ca6b39c08b862⋯.jpg (52.86 KB, 385x309, 385:309, 1466255824163.jpg)


But i'm not talking about Goombas nigger, i'm talking about Waluigi and literally any Character with even a bit of relevance to Nintendo.


>muh bloat

Kill yourself.

cf2e93 No.14490264

File: 0fc5208451ab176⋯.jpg (162.65 KB, 1177x1200, 1177:1200, 0fc5208451ab17673cafeadca0….jpg)

File: 15de13bf40d962c⋯.jpg (134.08 KB, 1000x988, 250:247, DAEK7eaXoAA1q5T.jpg)



There can be only one.

420d3b No.14490275

File: dbf84435704d144⋯.png (11.58 KB, 225x225, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)


Goomba has as much relevance to Nintendo as Waluigi, if not more.

Again, the point I'm making is that you have completely failed to provide any sort of reason as to WHY he should be in. Your argument basically is, yeah, let's just throw in any shitty thing that's even slightly related to Nintendo as a playable character! Remember bloopers? Make those a character! Remember those plastic condom things you used to have to put on your Wiimote? Make those a character!

Adding a bunch of pointless characters just because you can is completely fucking retarded and actually serves to make people want the game less.

49d274 No.14490295

File: a917869c58e3981⋯.gif (2.01 MB, 442x402, 221:201, a917869c58e39812523e879b9c….gif)


>Goomba has as much relevance to Nintendo as Waluigi, if not more

>a generic enemy has more relevance than a secondary character

And the point i'm trying to make is that going

>b-but what would he even do?

as an argument for not including a character is fucking retarded.

420d3b No.14490310

File: 5968de0b62e1984⋯.jpg (105.49 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 1448906509290.jpg)


>And the point i'm trying to make is that going

>b-but what would he even do?

>as an argument for not including a character is fucking retarded.

Except that's literally not what I'm doing you utter fucking brainlet. I'm asking you a pointed question in an attempt to see why you want him in the game and figure out what makes you excited for him. The onus is on you to get others hyped for your character and so far you've completely failed to do that because you're a completely dumb sack of shit (which is to be expected of Waluigi fans).

So I'll ask you again. Why should Waluigi be in Smash? What can he do? How is he going to fight? If you were actually able to answer these questions maybe I'd be on board with your shitty contrived tertiary character that only exists because Wario needed a doubles partner in Mario Tennis 64.

bb8f35 No.14490311

File: 0169f7a3261d375⋯.jpg (305.03 KB, 1080x1111, 1080:1111, Shakurel Kirby.jpg)

Are you ready for the new skins for the kirby characters?

49d274 No.14490331


>Except that's literally not what I'm doing

Except that IS what you did faggot, some cunt asked for Waluigi and you went


>What the fuck would he even do as a fighter?

I honestly don't give a shit about Waluigi, i'm just telling you that your initial argument is ass and you should kill yourself.

420d3b No.14490344

File: 82863e898f1782e⋯.jpg (29.97 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 2012382-pete.jpg)


>asking a pointed question while inquiring about some examples of how he would fight

>literally the exact opposite of what you're saying I'm doing

>"e…except that is what you did faggot!!!!!!!!"

So you are actually more dense than pig shit. Thanks for confirming.

e94a97 No.14490347


I don't get this reference.

bb8f35 No.14490355

7e4457 No.14490378

File: ee50fca733d7e52⋯.png (156.8 KB, 604x348, 151:87, Rape!.png)


>Linking to Crunchyroll

>Posting without an archive


4ebff6 No.14490379

File: ca85a80f0c9a733⋯.png (41.33 KB, 292x672, 73:168, ClipboardImage.png)


Let's just look this over for a second, see if you can follow along.

Mario - literally the mascot of the company and the most recognizable IP in the world, even moreso than Mickey fucking Mouse.

Luigi - his famous, yet mistreated brother. Mostly been a player 2, but that still involves a lot of games. He also has his own series in Luigi's Mansion, which, while nowhere near mainstream, still is a classic.

Wario has not one, but two of his own series - Wario Land and Wario Ware.

Peach is not only a mainstay of the series, but also the most famous female character in gaming as a whole.

Bowser not only is a fun villain, but a beloved one, thanks to the Mario RPG series of games giving him a fun personality.

Donkey Kong has his own series of games, which are bloody phenomenal, and play very differently to anything Mario.

Diddy Kong is pretty much DK's Luigi, but in this case, most people seem to like Diddy far more than Donkey Kong as a character.

Yoshi, as well, has his own series of games, once again, different from Mario, and is a mainstay in the mainline Mario games as well.

Fucking Rosalina has been in three of the past 4 mainline Mario games, and arguably is one of the more interesting characters thanks to her backstory.

Even the Koopalings have been in mainline Mario games for a while now, and are classic characters that have been around since the NES.

AND EVEN FUCKING DOCTOR MARIO has his own fucking series of puzzle games. Yes, the shitty fucking clone character has more of a reason to be in than your shit suggestion.

What does fucking Waluigi have? Tennis, Kart, Golf and Party. The only, ONLY interesting way to pull him off would be to give him a moveset revolving exclusively around the spinoff games.

Yes, Waluigi could be an interesting character. Nintendo could easily shit out a "Wario and Luigi: SuperVillain Saga/Partners in Crime", and it would probably be pretty fucking fun, but until that day, Waluigi is a shit character with no personality aside from what maymays attributed to him.

A character should be either iconic or interesting. Waluigi is neither.


>I honestly don't give a shit about Waluigi

In that case, that advice applies to any of your other shit ideas. Iconic or interesting.

49d274 No.14490416

File: 4df5dfbccecc62c⋯.png (113.69 KB, 368x298, 184:149, 1428519235358.png)


>use shitty argument

>get called out for it

>nu-uh i didn't say that

186bbd No.14490420

You guys trying to treat Smash roster like a popularity contest have it all wrong. Some of the most loved Smash characters were obscure before Smash, or not very popular. Certainly not as popular as Nintendo's major characters like Mario and Link.

The really popular characters are in Smash for new people who aren't familiar with more of Nintendo's characters. They all play fairly simply, don't have overly interesting mechanics, and are usually middle of the road on the fast and light to heavy and strong spectrum.

The best example of a nothing character getting big because of Smash is Ice Climbers.

420d3b No.14490432

File: 24f81f2a6ee13a1⋯.jpg (282.54 KB, 1455x1429, 1455:1429, DWm8sY6X0AAd8vS.jpg large.jpg)


>Endless army of autist savant Waluigi fans who don't have any good reasons for their shit character to be in the game and are just wasting their time trying to bait people, ensuring that everyone hates them and their character

49d274 No.14490436


Ok m8, whatever you say.

4ebff6 No.14490440


At the very least, Ice Climbers were Unique. Duo characters hadn't been done yet, it was a bloody interesting, unique break from the other character types. Most of the criticism is towards shitty, generic suggestions that are just thrown out because muh maymays.

Like I said, arguments could be made for someone like Waluigi, but they'd need far more mainstream love, or even an interesting spinoff game to develop them as actual fucking characters and not just tennis players.

Makes me wonder why there are so many Walugifags and comparatively few Daisyfags - both are in the same position.

420d3b No.14490498

File: 1bf3f7bb5f6664b⋯.png (217.04 KB, 596x339, 596:339, dededegrin.png)


>People ask Waluigifags why he should be in the game

>They're unable to give a straight answer

>Resort to aggressive baiting and trolling

>Ensure that the schadenfreude from Waluigi not making it in the roster will be 100000x more delicious

a90a28 No.14490517


>The only, ONLY interesting way to pull him off would be to give him a moveset revolving exclusively around the spinoff games.

You say that like it's not enough. You're asking "but what would he even do?" and you know the answer. Are you okay?

5c54ef No.14490525

>anti-Waluigifag acting as autistic if not more autistic than Waluigifags

Seems like business as usual in Smash threads.

49d274 No.14490527


Yeah m8, you sure showed me.

420d3b No.14490529


>Waluigi haters are all the same guy

It's a different Anon, Anon.

1241ad No.14490588


He didn't imply that it's the same guy as you, just that he used the same nonargument as you used earlier.

420d3b No.14490609


>He even admits it wasn't an argument, which is exactly what I've been saying, but instead a pointed question

Jesus fucking christ. How dumb are you people?

1241ad No.14490636


Now YOU are the one mixing up who you're talking to, faggot. And just because what you say is not an argument doesn't mean you didn't try to use it as one.

7e4457 No.14490662

File: f2af5b6d288d51c⋯.gif (958.85 KB, 500x281, 500:281, YayoiEat.gif)

So, what are you guys arguing over?

7b1dbf No.14491334

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


d5cf67 No.14491357

I can't wait for Captain Falcon to be revealed for the fifth time.

cca13e No.14492427


I would legitimately be actually excited if Goku was going to join Smash. Android 21 assist trophy?

Because I want to see the world burn.

ab8f4a No.14492632


The funny thing about the Villager moveset is that he has Side B Gyroid missile attack that don't even relate back to Animal Crossing. Fans try to use as many game inspired moves, while Sakurai comes up with other weird stuff or even using other characters from the same game for move inspiration like the Ness/Lucas's moves.

>Fan pitches of Villager

All the specials attacks will use the tools, Up B for fishing rod recovery, B for slingshot, Side B to swing axe, Down B shovel? Grab is bug net, etc

>Smash version

Balloon Fight inspired Up B recovery move (NES game is available in GCN version), B is pocket (which is simply brilliant), Side B launches a flying Gyroid like a fucking missile or you can ride it, Down B plant sapling, water it to grow tree (that can serve as a shield), get axe (to attack with) or chop down the tree to attack, grab is bug net. Shovel is a pitfall like down smash, while slingshot can only be used in the aerial attack.

If an ARMS fighter does get in, I would expect (if it's not just a Little Mac clone with long limbs), that it would moves taking from the other ARMS fighters, Eg: MinMin's kicks, Ribbon Girls aerial jumps, Barq assisting, tempory cloak like Ninjara. Or either that they could just throw in Dr Coyle, since she already seems to be researching and copying the abilities of the other ARMS fighters in universe.

905c3b No.14492945

File: 0223362a35e2d12⋯.png (427.44 KB, 966x692, 483:346, 47268848_p0.png)



>Cranky Kong

>Sword ganondorf

This is bait


>terrible content

>content split between two games

>the content that was there was half baked compared to previous entries

>Still lacks customization options like being able to toggle stage elements in a stage because of Sakurai's butthurt

The only thing Smash 4 had going for it was it's roster, but even then they had the audacity to add in even more Mario characters, padded out Kid Icarus, and of course fucking Fire Emblem. Everything else was mediocre. Sure it was better then Brawl but that isn't an achievement.

420d3b No.14492982


I literally didn't. You guys are just too fucking retarded to know when someone's asking you a legit question.


Yeah, it would actually be funny if Goku got in Smash and was terrible, like he was bottom tier. I'd love the salt that would ensue from him having a 2-8 matchup against a pink princess or a fat penguin with a hammer.

3e8bfa No.14493276

File: 0ec1a7e276730cd⋯.png (385.88 KB, 1143x785, 1143:785, sylux rulez.png)

im here to slay Ridleyfags

32b2bd No.14497041


Oh cool nice to see Sylux is going to be a Samus clone.

3e8bfa No.14497457


that would be true if he was a last minute inclusion, but too bad its not.

his entire character is to be opposing contrast to Samus as much as possible, to where he uses a experimental weapon akin to Metroid drainage, so its hard to see him that unlike Ridley.

905c3b No.14499497

File: f14ecd69997a9b4⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1208x1838, 604:919, 67487754_p0.png)


I'd rather be a Waluigi fag then a fucking Sylux fag, holy shit.

>from a game that can barely be called a Metroid

>Was the black sheep of the entire franchise until Other M came along

>cast of barebone characters with nothing interesting about them

>that shitty character design

>good chance he will just end up some boring human with a grudge

>"western made characters" is somehow is a plus

>Both Ridley's and Dark Samus' boss fights in the series were far more interesting then anything he did

I will never understand the Sylux meme and why they keep teasing him in every game. Everything from Hunters should have been forgotten. If Ridley can't get in then at least Dark Samus is understandable, but why settle for less with Sylux?

3e8bfa No.14502854

File: 6f6a078447d9843⋯.png (889.25 KB, 958x1349, 958:1349, sneaky sylux.png)


>I'd rather be a Waluigi fag then a fucking Sylux fag, holy shit.

so you decided to be the trash begging for useless spinoff-exclusive filler over something that's getting the spotlight in major games after a decade of haunting? but hey, im not stopping you, go ahead.

>wall of very baseless metroid purist or metroid fanatic rant/bicker/bitch bloat #2045823 etc etc.

start an argument at anytime, especially for the Smash topic. not made up fanbase bullshit to justify their autism.

>I will never understand the Sylux meme and why they keep teasing him in every game.

because they're introducing a new plotline for future Metroid Prime titles after when the phazon arc is all completed, and they're starting off by fleshing out Sylux first.

like it or not. its none of the samey recycled garbage redditors rumor about to justify the new stuff either.

>If Ridley can't get in then at least Dark Samus is understandable, but why settle for less with Sylux?

you can ask the same for Wolf getting over Andross, Bowser Jr. over just Shadow Mario, or Rosalina getting in over Petey Piranha. don't get me started there, i'll maul you if you try to justify these for Bigley or another sidelined Metroid antagonist.

also the support for Dark Samus started to harshly drop around once they announced her story is over, likely being Lucas-tier clone, getting outran by the new major antagonist for future Prime games.

nobody wants to deal with that, gotta move on to the next.

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