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b31856  No.16140146


>Latest News

- News of the future of Trails series and footage of Ys IX to drop on the 24th of March according to news outlets

-On January 17th, 2019 NISA formally announced they had acquired the rights to the Trails series (and likely has had them for some time) and would be releasing Cold Steel 3 in fall of 2019 for the PS4 (no other platforms have been announced so far). In an attempt of damage control it was announced Brittany "Hatsuu" Avery, Ryan Thompson and Kris Kniggev (all veterans of XSeed's work on the CS series) had been contracted to work on the game to ensure script accuracy, do translation work and, in Hatsuu's case, manage the VAs and dub (Sean Chiplock has already been confirmed as returning as Rean). This is probably been the biggest fear of the Falcom General for a while and it's here now. NISA's play here is pretty smart and a good portion of the initial outrage was quelled by these staff announcements. For now the best course of action will be to gather information and watch NISA very closely for when they release content from the translation (like screenshots or trailers). Collecting info from NISA's past deeds is also a good plan, but keep in mind it will be difficult to make much headway with that alone until we can show they're fucking up this translation too thanks to their insulation via the stunt hires. Being attentive and vigilant is your best course of action here.

-Ys IX: Monstrum Nox was revealed. It is the furthest game in the Ys timeline and will release in fall of 2019.

-Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 on PS4 were delayed and will release in March and May of 2019, respectively. For the first time the games will have dual audio, though the dub will feature the extra lines recorded for the PC versions. It will also feature the "turbo mode" feature added to the PC versions.

-The PC versions of Cold Steel 1 and 2 had dual audio patched in, so as long as you are able to update your game an undub is no longer necessary if you want to play it with Japanese audio. Also some new English lines were added to CS1 with the patch.

-On the same day, October 26th, both Tom Lipschultz and Brittany "Hatsuu" Avery left XSeed. Hatsuu has since gone freelance and was hired by NISA to work on Cold Steel 3.

- As of this posting Trails of Cold Steel 4 has been out for numerous months in Japan, so obviously the whole game is spoiled. Try to keep things behind spoilertext here.

- The Switch port of Ys VIII released with a litany of bugs, including not even having dual audio (NISA's sole claim to fame) at launch.

- After an email campaign, a retranslation, apologies, and 7 months of delays, Ys 8 finally got released on PC. And NISA fucked up, the port is so terrible that only 51% of the Steam reviews being positive (it was originally at 25%, but shills will shill). Western and Japanese websites are reporting this story. In other words, a huge backlash. Meanwhile, NISA promised to fix everything. Don't worry, they'll probably be able to fix in a few weeks what they couldn't fix in 1.5 years. Absolutely. Ha.

- Tokyo Xanadu released on PS4/PC with an improved translation, but there are a few issues like slangs, memes and random chtulhu lines.

- Also available on PC: the Trails in the Sky trilogy (now with Turbo mode), Xanadu Next, Ys: I & II Chronicles, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, Ys: The Oath in Felghana, Ys Origin, Ys SEVEN, Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2, Zwei!! 1 and 2


>Trails from Zero at 80%+ (being edited by Geofront/Zerk). There is already a beta (as in a rough translation done before Zerk even started working on it) out, though the quality is on the low side, though still coherent from start to finish

>Trails to Azure was leaked. There are a few typos and every once in a while there's an awkward line or two but all in all it's a solid translation. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3679/. Flame's edit of the translation is also out officially now. It's a better worded script at the cost of pretty much breaking the voice mod. Both are available packaged with torrents if you care to look for them.

>Everything else in the works seems to be MIA.


- Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection


Mega of every undub: https://mega.nz/#F!k5ZjwTCD!A4Uyb67OpQQ_qCoB-zvx0g

Merge the JP voices and Dummy files into one folder and dump that folder into the voice folder.

>Falcom pastebin (download links for scans, Falcom Magazine volumes, soundtracks and more)


b31856  No.16140171

Been a long while since I last made the thread. Sorry for any errors and I don't have the primer images. sage for double post.

df8c34  No.16140253

the nisa takeover seems like a good stopping point in dropping the trails series for me. loved trails in the sky 1 and 2, and 3 is great if you can't get enough which i couldn't. disliked the cold steel cast due to it being almost all kids in school and of course the main cock sucker gets a special power because why not. then he gets a harem of girls because it needs a more weeb selling points. thank god for dragon quest.

36992a  No.16140277

Fina-fucking-ly faggot, thank you

>no primers

damn it, that's the main reason I was hoping for the next one to be created.

Can someone post them?


Understandable, but what about Crossbell? I still see people who love that shit to death in the recent threads, and they're unpozzed at least with the current iteration of translation with still a very meaty story.

71b159  No.16140283

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What's with all these niggers that can't use a shift key lately? These posts read like they're written by a middle school retard trying to sound cool. It's like the Sonic OC meme brought to life.

bd7b47  No.16140294

File: 449873c24319abd⋯.png (156.82 KB, 612x455, 612:455, 7894651326549.png)


>NISA formally announced they had acquired the rights to the Trails series

3f4c1d  No.16140365


the shift key is for redditors much like trails games

c67fe5  No.16140513

File: 7195fbdf826ebfe⋯.jpg (2.04 MB, 3166x1568, 1583:784, trailsguide3.jpg)

File: 1e2e1e19842e8e8⋯.jpg (414.79 KB, 1321x1749, 1321:1749, NISA rap sheet.jpg)

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Here, I have the Trails guide.

Also posting some stuff related to NISA, but the rap sheet is in need of updates as it goes up to 2015. The fifth pic is the president of NIS praising NISA in a interview.

36992a  No.16140683


Do you have the Ys primer?

c67fe5  No.16140725


No, sorry. I grabbed that guide a long time ago. But hopefully someone else has that primer.

49c578  No.16141614


That Trails chart can use a good update. The rant about the Crossbell games is off. I just played through both games, the patch for Zero is fine even in its unfinished state. Ao is more of a mixed bag. The original leak becomes google translate-tier at times, the Flame edit is good but it breaks the flow of the voices from the EVO voice patch. Both games are still worth playing even in that state though. They're fantastic.

891efa  No.16141635

File: f9a412007a5d3a8⋯.jpg (2.55 MB, 2158x1961, 2158:1961, v essentials ys.jpg)


These ones?

891efa  No.16141637

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047224  No.16141647

There's a conspiracy going on for a while about how NiS is trying to artificially deflate Falcom's value in the west in hopes to buy into Falcom's stocks and seize localization and western publishing rights forever.

7d9959  No.16141686

Is it normal to get sick of MoC really quickly? It feels like an inferior game to every other Ys

f4aeb9  No.16141700

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Anyone got download links for Rinne and Dinosaur Resurrection so I can abandon Falcom already?


Nah, NIS doesn't need to deflate Falcom's value to buy it. Kondo is already letting NIS's CEO fuck his wife clearly so it would probably be a willing merger.

047224  No.16141709


If a willing merger happens then will Falcom will be added to shitlisted localizations won't it? If that happens then you may was well have these threads only in Japanese.

acb9b1  No.16141757


Which y’s games are considered the peaks of the series?

a6f857  No.16141764

Was there never any fix for Ys 8 for PC? Fuck Soyny.

0ec348  No.16141788


I've been looking for a copy of Dinosaur Resurrection as well, I don't even speak nip so I'm not sure how accessible it is. Also, never heard of Rinne but it looks interesting, like it almost plays like a WRPG.

f4aeb9  No.16141809


>If a willing merger happens then will Falcom will be added to shitlisted localizations won't it?

They already are on my list now, so it wouldn't make much of difference to me.


>Was there never any fix for Ys 8 for PC?

it got like 2 weeks worth of patches that barely fixed anything and then NISA closed up the ir discord for bug submissions. They haven't pushed out a single patch for it since.


Oath and Origin


>I've been looking for a copy of Dinosaur Resurrection as well, I don't even speak nip so I'm not sure how accessible it is.

If it's like other dungeon crawlers I've played it will be be piss easy to play in japanese without knowing nip, you just need a tablet or smartphone with a translation app and a japanese wiki for the game.

>Also, never heard of Rinne but it looks interesting, like it almost plays like a WRPG.

It's a pseudo-soft reboot of this rpg/action game series called Relics. Falcom handled the mobile ports for the original devs and then when the devs went tits up they sold the rights to falcom who ended up making Rinne with a few of the original series dev team. The whole Relics series is weird as hell think Alien meats SMT in terms of themes.

b31856  No.16141820



Its Ys

0ec348  No.16141822


>If it's like other dungeon crawlers I've played it will be be piss easy to play in japanese without knowing nip

Yeah that's what I figured


>Alien meets SMT

Fuck I really want to play this now

acb9b1  No.16141884

bd0333  No.16141900

Man, if it turns out that NISA will also translate Ys 9 i will just forget about falcom, give up on their games and pirate everything from here on out.

0875a1  No.16141914


First, obviously they will. It's a Sony exclusive for now and what better "localization" studio to fuck it up for the PS than NISA?

Secondly there's no guarantee the PC port won't suck shit and even if you pirate it it won't be playable ala Ys 8.

I hate NISA and everyone who had ever given them a free pass for anything. Fucking hell, not even Falcom was safe?

0ec348  No.16141927


Are you retarded?

bd0333  No.16141933


well, celceta was released on steam after VIII and it was published by Xseed, so there is still hope, a fool's hope, but hope nonetheless.

555c2d  No.16142614

What's the best way to play Zero no Kiseki? I just finished third and want to move on with the series.

09fc2a  No.16142951


PC with the leaked fan tl. You may want to wait for the edit as the translation has some errors and stiffness to it right now but that shouldn't compromise your enjoyment of what is an incredible game.

838f63  No.16142956



I’m just fucking with ya.

8a40ee  No.16143273

Absolutely been loving crossbell games. Maybe even more than sky, but sky just enhances it so i guess its a combo love. Currently on Ao chapter 3 and its been great

Sorta unrelated but I need answers anons: WHAT GAMES ARE SIMILAR TO POM?!?!

I have been playing it over and over again in Ao and i cant think of anything like it. Its like a tetris/bejeweled clone.

c93e15  No.16143963


Ao is fantastic, glad you're having fun. It only gets better.


Puyo Puyo. The chaining mechanic in Pomtto! is pretty much lifted straight from it.

e48ada  No.16143973


The Crossbell games are really fucking good, I just played through them myself. I'm going through Cold Steel again because I was a retard that started with those games after getting them on PS3 out of a used bargain bin. It's way better after playing Sky trilogy/Zero/Ao. PC port is amazingly good, too.

Pretty sure Pom is just a Puyo Puyo clone for the most part. I really liked the "retro" versions of the OST they play during Pom, the retro Ouroboros theme when you play against Campanella was cool.

a4b82d  No.16145431


>In an attempt of damage control

This pisses me of to no end. It would be one thing is NISA was just incompetent, but blatant laziness and contract fuckery is cancer.

78c2dd  No.16145570

It's dead. There's no reason to care for a series getting published by such shit localizers. Ys is dead.

b31856  No.16145816

Defeatist attitudes not welcome. I've been seeing more and more support for NISA as of late due to people thinking it's all over. It isn't over until that company burns.

c18d24  No.16146182

File: ba6b24c98a0464c⋯.jpg (25.49 KB, 240x240, 1:1, Estelle3.jpg)

Man all of this shit could have been probably avoided if Xseed had some decent fucking advertising budget and some shitty merchandise to keep Falcom happy.


>I've been seeing more and more support for NISA as of late due to people thinking it's all over.

Where did you see that exactly and why the fuck would people now suddenly love NISA when they have a bad localization record? i mean they fucked up the YS8 localization on launch and and the PC port of it is still fucked for some people.

Fucking hell I just wish people had some standards when it comes about translation quality in general.

fe3065  No.16146312


XSEED is a tiny company. They flat-out do not have much money or people. For what its worth though, their games generally sell respectably save for the really niche titles like Zwei.

its not like they can just magically have more money, and the Senran censorship definitely did not help their financials.

Merchandise is a whole different pain on its own.

There's nothing XSEED really could've done, it came down to NISA having more money, Falcom's president having a relationship with NIS/A's, and NISA offering a french localization. XSEED has no way to change any of that, and Kondo valued their loyalty, quality and very positive reception of their releases less than what he saw in NIS/A and that's the facts.

It makes me want to just give up on Falcom entirely, fuck them.

8e6051  No.16146322

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This threads are comfy, even if I've only through through Sky.

8a40ee  No.16150316



Thank you both, it seems that will satisfy my urge for the game.

That aside im playing the final chapter of Ao and all i can say is…wow what a game. Crossbell is probably my favorite arc, but i think that it was enhanced a ton by having characters from the past games appear. Plus i started this series with CS 1 and 2 so having knowledge of those games also made it even better. I really hope this series continues strong and NISA doesnt fuck everything up. This is a god damn great series and incredibly unique.

c2511c  No.16150451

File: 1ccbb2d47dac7f7⋯.jpg (630.93 KB, 2560x1444, 640:361, f.jpg)

I am liking Trails in the Sky 1. I am at the industrial city, name starts with a Z, I forget. Saved the bracer who was poisoned by getting the glowing slime from the cave. Stuck going to the next city, strong wolf blocks path and is too difficult. Please send help.

8a40ee  No.16150467


I forgot about that part of the story. I wonder what the moonrune translation of it is.

c2511c  No.16150481


The historical Play (based on true events in the game's past) was one of my favorite moments. Azure knight was cute, the story was tragic, yet ended happily, how true brothers would settle a dispute. It had a power struggle of the aristocrat against the commoners.

555c2d  No.16151372


What is your orbment set up? Generally, a good tactic is to give Joshua Speed buffing/Debuffing, and give Estelle Earth Wall/Healing. Make Jousha rush a single enemy and have Estelle keep a guard on both members in between heals.

49c578  No.16151403


This, and also if you're getting fucked over by a certain status like faint you're going to want to make sure you use accessories to block it.

36992a  No.16151430


someone posted about that in a thread last year or so I think, you'd have to go find it.

555c2d  No.16151434


Ah good point.


Also, if you've been doing all of the tower side quests up to this point you might have an accessory that will give you an elemental advantage against them if they have one.

8a40ee  No.16151906

Finally wrapped up Ao tonight and thus have played all translated games. Fantastic game, really enjoyed it and definitely my favorite arc of the the three. Was sorta undecided on the ending since i feel like if you got the power to make your nation strong as fuck you take it, but i get its a game. Also seeing as the ending scenes werent translated i take it that it shows crossbell being taken by the erebonians? What an adventure though, ill be looking forward to replaying this.

49c578  No.16151984


I played the PC version that they had on Nyaa, which translated the ending scenes. They pretty much summarize the events you see in the end of CS2. They explain the Erebonian civil war ends, Osborne "recovers" from his assassination attempt, and Crossbell is occupied by the empire. So by the end of CS2 the events of the Crossbell games and CS are completely lined up, now we wait for CS3 to see what happens next. And we also have to pray that CS3 is at least fucking playable.

242662  No.16151995

>Nisa announces it has the rights of the Trails series

Literally making shit up, op is a fag

8acfc4  No.16153246

File: 8e9da13fd00d26d⋯.png (38.23 KB, 580x274, 290:137, EmmaStrober.png)

File: 7a9a72f74e9ede9⋯.jpg (93.23 KB, 600x849, 200:283, Emma1.jpg)

It seems Emma's VA is back. Other than Sean she's the only one I've seen confirmed so far, unless I'm missing something. It'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out now that Hatsuu has backed out to mourn her fucking cat.



They have the rights to CS3. They got the rights to Ys 8 (the last game before CS3). They're going to get the future ones too. At this point it's basically inevitable unless something big changes, which isn't looking too likely.

0875a1  No.16153292


Are decent porting companies that expensive? I mean if Type Moon can make a musou with a lot of enemies constantly on screen run smooth on a 12 year old toaster how come Koei can't port their musou/Nioh for shit, or how Resonance of Fate requires retarded hoops to get working, or how Ys 8 was, and still is unplayable from a technical and translation prespective?

Are these things just expensive, or was Fate Extella not that graphically demanding, or do these lazy fucks just not give a shit? And if it's the last one how is Falcom sitting around on its ass letting this go further?

891efa  No.16153339


NISA got cs3 as soon as it came out in Japan right? At the minimum They got ys8 and cs3 as package. The best hope is they'll be stopped there or cs4+ys9 since Falcom is was willing to immediately give them cs3. I hope Falcom isn't stupid enough to give them all future games from now on and once contract obligations are finished they go to literally anyone else.

36992a  No.16153366


I'm curious as to how many VAs in Cold Steel are in the union/clique that's attacking Vic right now.


they had enough success with Ys VIII (thanks Switch owners) that its looking likely they'll at least get Ys IX.

>contract obligations

Unless contract obligations are differently handled in Japan (they might be), they don't really have to honor it considering NIS/A's piss-poor performance and disastrous releases and handlings of the game. Something like that would be a legitimate reason to break the contract.


It depends. PC Porting is cheaper than porting games to other consoles, or porting a PC-native game to a console, but yeah porting is generally fairly expensive.

It doesn't help that they also didn't give a shit though.

>how is Falcom sitting around on its ass letting this go further

They don't fucking care about us. They demonstrated this with Ys VIII, and even if you gave them the benefit of the doubt for that game assuming they didn't know NIS/A's reputation in the west, now they have certainly no excuse.

8acfc4  No.16153385

File: c54c116fd2d1c29⋯.jpg (992 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, AureliaUnamused.jpg)


>Are decent porting companies that expensive?

Honestly, it's not that XSeed is more expensive because their quality is better, they're more expensive because they're a small company and that's the cheapest they can afford to be. Companies don't get more expensive based on the quality of their work when it comes to localization. That's an incidental aspect. NISA, who has more money thanks to their parent company, can afford to underbid. Japanese companies largely don't give a shit about the quality of localizations as long as they still get their payday in the end. Ys 8 was able to make a decent profit due to being spread across four platforms and most consumers being way too easy to please, so in the end even the controversy didn't matter, which Kondo more or less said at the shareholder meeting. Now, the Trails fanbase is considerably more autistic, rabid and numerous than the Ys fanbase at this point, so if they fuck up CS3 there could be an even bigger reaction. That said, if they don't fuck up majorly and instead the release is just middling (like the Ys 8 retranslation) it will be hard to make anything happen.


There's no way they don't get CS4 at the very least. CS3 and 4 are more or less a package deal. They're probably going to get Ys 9 too, unless they don't want it, and NISA seems desperate for properties after losing Dang It Grandpa and Nep. Like I said, at this point it would take a bigger shitstorm than Ys 8 to unseat them.


>I'm curious as to how many VAs in Cold Steel are in the union/clique that's attacking Vic right now.

From what I can see, none of them. The only VAs who seem to have joined in are primarily the anime-only VAs like Monica Rial and Christopher Sabat, who sadly should have been Vic's friends (and who despite claiming to have known this was going on for years were totally chummy with him until this started). Most of the non-union up-and-commers like Sean and such seem to be keeping their heads down, which is honestly the smartest thing to do at this point.

891efa  No.16153520


The only reason I mention contract obligations is because I don't know what kind of deal they made when they got the games and whether the deal was for just for those games in particular or for the greater series in general, which would allow them to pull out. Clearly if they could, they chose not to for cs3. That's what I mean by "best hope", that the NISA games were got on a package deal and afterwords once the package is over, if the deal doesn't allow them to switch out before hand, they'll go to another localization company.

5f35db  No.16153742


>That said, if they don't fuck up majorly and instead the release is just middling (like the Ys 8 retranslation) it will be hard to make anything happen.

It's NISA we all know they will fuck up hard.

8acfc4  No.16153787


>It's NISA we all know they will fuck up hard.

I've seen NISA initial releases that were simply mediocre before. I woudln't count your chickens until they hatch. For now, all we can do is wait and see.

301311  No.16155499

File: 26d6e393b0523e7⋯.png (17.83 KB, 478x325, 478:325, Suck_my_dock.png)


>I've seen NISA initial releases that were simply mediocre before

I can only imagine the exact words used in a meeting with Falcom for them to sign them on again for Cold Steel, if it wasn't a contractual thing that is. Wonder if they had some inkling of their horrid localization history and brushed it off due to the speed and multiple language translations they offered, as well as nepotism between their bosses or they simply didn't know. (or care)

8acfc4  No.16155538

File: 930af41a89c9e1c⋯.jpg (386 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, EstelleNISA.jpg)


>or care

It's this one. Remember, no company is your friend. All they want is your money, and they want it by doing the least amount of effort possible. Japanese companies know nothing about you and don't really care about you. You can choose not to buy, of course, but enough people have to do it with you for it to matter.

bd9715  No.16157579

File: 3bd333955c33f71⋯.png (765.63 KB, 960x544, 30:17, 1550778168994.png)

File: 4a2d92948434c13⋯.png (1004.05 KB, 960x544, 30:17, 1550935422647.png)

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I started playing Sora No Kiseki FC Evolution. Seems pretty fun so far but also rather slow. I'm like 8 hours in and still in the prologue chapter. How long is this game going to be? What have I gotten myself into?

8acfc4  No.16157635


Sky Evolution is busted to shit because the Crossbell mechanics were back-ported and the games were not balanced for it at all. So honestly I can't comment on the gameplay pace because the Evo versions are fucked.

bd9715  No.16157659


It has full voice acting though, which is why I picked that over the original. I'm a sucker for that kinda stuff. Don't people primarily play these for the story?

8acfc4  No.16157674


There's a fan patch to put the Evo voiced into the default game. You can put the evo portraits in even if you prefer those.

95b677  No.16157702

File: 9a7205a26937086⋯.png (36.65 KB, 834x431, 834:431, TitS Versions.png)



I made this a while ago.

bd9715  No.16157709


For PSP too? I wish I knew that beforehand. Don't really care much about the new portraits, old ones are much better.

e18ebf  No.16157720


>I can only imagine the exact words used in a meeting with Falcom for them to sign them on again for Cold Steel, if it wasn't a contractual thing that is.

Didn't they nab the rights to that BEFORE the worst of the Ys VIII shitstorm went down?

bd9715  No.16157724


What exactly has been censored in Evo and the PSP? There's one somewhat explicit CG I've seen floating around, that it?

95b677  No.16157751


Yes, it is just one scene in The 3rd that is a lot shorter and that scene also has had some image censored.

8acfc4  No.16157761

File: a84b1263d7cd501⋯.png (258.34 KB, 520x388, 130:97, RenneParadise.png)


Renne's star door is completely gutted. Not just the CG but most of the content in it.

bd9715  No.16157832


Damn, that sucks. Unfortunately playing on PC isn't really an option for me. Nowadays it's impossible for me to finish such long games unless I can have them in portable format.

36992a  No.16158008


>playing the Evolution versions

>that use the horribly unfitting Ao/Zero artwork

>and have the original OST only as DLC

bd9715  No.16158045


>implying I can't just pirate original OST

36992a  No.16158054


If you didn't then you're a faggot, and that doesn't change the artwork

a4b82d  No.16158068


But that wont change the ingame music, and the evo OST is worse.

bd9715  No.16158070


I did. And while I don't like the portraits, I explained my reasons for picking evo. I'm still a faggot though.


>the original soundtrack DLC does not change the ingame music


36992a  No.16158087


The voice-acting was mediocre from the webms and mp4s I saw

c2511c  No.16158307


Mmm, good point, I'll be sure to use the amulets to resist faint.


I never saw the need to use speed up arts, its essentially a wasted initiative and I don't see me moving up the ladder on the queue for attacks/arts. Atleast the lower tier/mid tier ones, and its only for a single player. I'll give these a try though, I need to understand the mechanics more I guess, some things just don't make sense, in regards to what speed up does.

51c523  No.16158445

File: 0df9a60a7ee8edc⋯.png (466.99 KB, 635x922, 635:922, serveimage.png)

f86aff  No.16158489


The speed up arts don’t move you up in the initiative order, they make you appear in the order more often. I guess a better way of putting it would be that they apply after the next turn that the target takes. Combined with speed down arts on the enemies you can get a fast character like Joshua to take 5 or 6 actions before an enemy gets a single action even more later in the game when he gets evil eye and can inflict at delay

8acfc4  No.16158497

File: 76aff97d5639581⋯.webm (298.06 KB, 480x480, 1:1, ReanColdsteel.webm)

f95e70  No.16159638

File: e370f18d3f3442a⋯.mp4 (2.82 MB, 234x200, 117:100, 58-battle-4.mp4)

Not exactly made by Falcom but did anyone know that Arcturus is getting translated?


>What's Arcturus? Why, it's one of the most famous PC RPGs in Korea!

>Developed in 2000 by Sonnori and Gravity (the creator of Ragnarok Online), Arcturus uses the Ragnarok engine, has a Grandia 2-like combat, boasts a bunch of tormented characters and has an epic story focused on death, gods and mankind's folly.

>Another team already tried to translate this game some years ago, but they eventually abandoned the project. This project uses none of the previously made translations and is based on the Japanese localization of the game by Falcom.

The translation is actually pretty close to being finished. I believe it's mainly bug testing now.

c757d0  No.16159665


Interesting, never heard about this game. Is there a magnet for the JP version?

f95e70  No.16159844


I wouldn't know where to find it. But the patch was supposed to release around April of last year. The translator has went silent for some reason.

b73fd5  No.16159953

File: e2ca0ec41f26d6a⋯.jpg (179.43 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Kea.full.822611.jpg)

>I want to FUCK/protect KeA's smile

Lolis always conflict me. My pedophile desires fight with my daddy instincts.

8acfc4  No.16159981

File: daca6c540b4ded7⋯.png (278.18 KB, 481x519, 481:519, AltinaFailures.png)



Pedos are attracted to real kids. Loli isn't real kids. Real children could never measure up to loli, so why would you ever be attracted to an irl kid?.

8ac68c  No.16160352

File: d0d1361b50756a8⋯.png (186.02 KB, 1022x289, 1022:289, ClipboardImage.png)


its the ERPer from last thread who thinks michael jackson was a pedo

460c79  No.16163509

Well, I guess I can add Cold Steel 3 and 4 right next to Ys 8 on my list of games I'm skipping. Are the spoilers worth looking up finally or should I just forget I ever touched the series?

8acfc4  No.16163548


What do you want, anon?

460c79  No.16163622


I want Xseed to localize the games.

I'm interested in knowing what happens to Rean and his sister, the royal family, the Craigs, the Arseids, Towa, George, Bleublanc, fie, Sara, Sharon and Alisa, Jusis, Crow if there is anything else, and the overall plot. Also, how does the gameplay compare to 1 and 2?

8acfc4  No.16163726


This might get messy because I have to simply a lot of shit.

>I'm interested in knowing what happens to Rean and his sister

After serving in the army and Northern Campaign to take over North Ambria, Rean becomes a teacher at the branch school of Thors and heads up Class 7, which initially just has three students and later five. Much like OG Class 7 they do missions around the Empire, though often get involved in Rean's assignments from the government as well. It's revealed Rean has been having more and more trouble with his ogre power over the course of the game. It's revealed towards in the end of CS3 that the scar on Rean's chest is literally Osborne's heart put into his body, as he was nearly killed in the same jaeger attack that killed his mother when he was four. Finally, at the Climax of CS3, it's revealed that the two sept-terrions in Erebonia, fire and earth, were once giant beings (the one you see in Nord is the Earth one) and their fighting in ancient times caused them to fuse into the sep-terrion of steel, known as the great power. This union also spawned a malignant curse that has affected the Empire through the years, driving many to violent and desperate acts (like Hamel). This curse was mostly absorbed by the holy beast of earth to try and protect the land, but bits leak out now and then. The new fused sept-terrion was broken into seven fragments, the divine knights, by the witches and gnomes, the two clans that used to follow each sept-terrion. The fragments have clashed over the years trying to reform the great power but it has never happened.

Osborne, Ouroboros and the Gnomes (who lead the black workshop) team up to try and revive the great one and the first step is to unleash the twilight on the world which means killing the great beast of earth and spreading the curse across the land. However, you cannot kill a holy beast without a weapon forged with the divergent laws. Millium and Altina are homunculi created for the purpose of being killed and turned into soul weapons, and they were created pretty much to kill this thing. Altina is taken at the game's finale to the corrupted primal ground of Erebonia where the holy beast of earth is. Rean and new and old class 7 fight their way down to rescue her, but when confronted with the beast are unable to kill it. Rean nearly dies until Altina steps up to protect him, but Millium pushes her out of the way and is hit instead, killing her. Rean loses his shit and he loses control of his ogre power. He slaughters the divine beast and unleashes the curse across Erebonia. In the confusion following his allies get away but he is captured.

He spends the first act of CS4 in captivity while the other characters do things. Eventually he is rescued and they snap him out of his rage. He joins with them as they fly across Erebonia trying to do things to stop the twilight and participating in the "rivalries" (1v1 DK battles basically) between awakeners. Eventually on the night before the final fight to stop Osborne he meets with Cassius Bright and undergoes his exam to progress to Divine Blade, which he passes. The then spends the final night with his chosen waifu or alone.

When Rean was nearly killed his father, Osborne, more or less offered his soul to the manifestation of the curse, which is actually sentient, named Ishmelga. However the price for saving Rean's life was marking him as the "sacrifice" that would bring about the Twilight and finally give Ishmelga control of the great power. There are two endings, the default ending and true ending. You always have to see the default ending first. In the default ending Rean sacrifices himself to ensure Ishmelga doesn't get what he wants and to purge Erebonia of the curse for good. In the true ending, everyone (like 39 fucking characters) fight the great power and Rean destroys Ishmelga, freeing himself of his ogre power and meaning he has to say farewell to Valimar. Rean is finally free to live his life

Elise doesn't do a whole lot. She's there. She doesn't have much character development and is still a brocon. She's one of the potential waifus but she's on the lower rung with less explicaite romance.

71b159  No.16163731


That's fucking shitty, I always thought Renne's past was one of the more interesting origin stories for a villain. It made her stand out more than the generic "evil goth loli" she initially appears as. I wonder if they're trying to retcon that plotline, especially since they already changed shit in the Crossbell games by saying the situation with her parents was a misunderstanding and it was actually a family not-friend that sold her off to DG cult's Paradise club.

8acfc4  No.16163774


>the royal family

When he was at Thors Emperor Eugent fell in love with a commoner named Ariel Lenheim, a cook from Alster. Together they Olivert, but the nobles refused to accept her, not allowing him to marry her like he wanted. Enraged that she existed and had a child, eventually they sent jaegers to her home to kill herand her son, but Mueller (who had been assigned there as protection) was able to save Olivert. Not Ariel, though. Torn up by the loss of the woman he loved Eugent never really forgave the nobility, hence his closeness with Osborne, though after Hamel and learning more about the cure his main focus became stopping that. He eventually married the daughter of an extremely low ranking baron, Priscilla, to thumb his nose at the nobility. They took on Olivert, who Priscilla treated like a son, and they had Alfin and Cedirc. Towards the end of CS3, Ash, one of Rean's students and a hamel survivor, sneaks a calvard-made gun into a formal royal function. The curse left in him by the attack on Hamel had slowly been driving him crazy and he shoots Eugent nearly dead (though he just barely survives). This allows Osborne to take over the government with Cedric's approval and blame the assassination attempt on Calvard in a bid to start a massive world war to facilitate the twilight. Eugent eventually recovers but he's more or less out of commission for the rest of the story

After CS2 Cedric because massively obsessed with strength and not being "weak" again and it turned him into a huge dick. He's been palling around with Osborne and more or less wants to be a new Ironblood. He spends a good deal of CS3 being a smug shitheel that clashes with Rean and his students, being a far more effective Patrick than Patrick ever was. In the finale of CS3 he joins Oscorne in the other in their plan. Testa-Rossa's remains are dug up and he becomes it's awakener. The plan is for him to kill Altina to use the sword. When Olivert arrives with the Courageous outside the battleground to settle things down, Cedric gives the okay for the explosives on the ship to be detonated, seemingly killing Olivert, Toval and Victor on board. He then tries to strangle Altina, but she stops him to go help Rean. He spends most of CS4 going steadily crazier and becoming more and more insecure. Shirley, of all people, ends up trying to calm him down and eventually succeeds after Rean defeats him in a rivalry and the curse that had been driving his negative impulses subsided leaving him a grieving wreck at how much he'd fucked up. Deciding he can't face his family or what he had done, he runs away with Shirley to join Ouroboros and becomes an Enforcer. Alfin is invested as crown princess. Like Elise, she doesn't do a whole lot, but is one of Rean's potential waifus, like Elise she's on the lower rung.

Olivert wasn't actually killed by the bomb, though. He and the other passengers aboard the Courageous managed to escape due to a few factors. He did still lose an eye though. He was nursed back to health by Schera and eventually returns in the last third of CS4 to ferry Rean and the rest around in the Courageous 2. At the end of the game he marries Schera and their wedding is more or less the end credits sequence.

36992a  No.16163786

welp looks like I'm avoiding this thread till the next one, a shame

460c79  No.16163833



Thanks, I appreciate the writeup.

8acfc4  No.16163840


> the Craigs

Elliot becomes a famous musician between CS2 and CS3. He doesn't have much plot apart from just being there to help out. He might have something going on with Mint? It's vague. His dad was one of Osborne's old friends and is actually the one that tells Rean about Osborne and his mother. He's more or less forced to work with Osborne and the military in CS4 and you fight him, but he basically comes around after that. Fiona's relationship with Neithardt is confirmed.

>the Arseids

Laura has become a master of style by the time you meet her again in CS3. She still lacks confidence in certain areas, though. Still, she helps Rean in her chapter of CS3 as well as the ending. Victor is seemingly killed when the Courageous explodes, but he survived like the other crew members, though he lost his left arm. He was taken captive by the Gnomes afterwards and brainwashed using one of their masks to work with them. Rean and Laura eventually free him and he helps on the final assault (he's actually a party member in a few sections). Laura becomes more and more concerned with Rean and is one of six of his main potential love interests.


George is actually a gnome. Yeah the memes were true. After leaving Thors his mental conditioning broke and he returned to them. He seemingly kills Angelica when she learns about Crow's apparent survival by checking his coffin, but he actually merely captured her and brainwashed her like Victor. He was also in charge of putting the explosives on the Courageous, though he also put in a device to protect the people inside. He's a frequent enemy throughout CS4, but he is eventually persuaded to abandon the gnomes and help out Rean and co. He is also a temporary party member in the ending.


Towa is Rean's co-worker at the branch school and teaches Class IX, the administration class. They work closely together over CS3, though she isn't a party member. The ending breaks her pretty badly as George tells her he killed Angelica and tries to kill her as well, though she is saved by Michael and losing Rean was pretty hard on her too. She was captured along with Empress Pricilla and Rean and co. rescue her fairly early on into the 2nd act of CS4. They also free Angelica from her brainwashing here. Afterwards she sticks with the group for the rest of the game, though still not as a party member. She's one of six of Rean's main potential love interests.


Bleublanc is actually doesn't really show up in CS3, though it's mentioned that he didn't agree with Ouroboros's newest plan, like Vita. In CS4 he actively helps Rean and Co. He was one of the people who helped rescue Olivert and helps out at various other parts, though he is never a party member. In the final scene with Ouroboros they confirm neither he or Vita have come back.


Fie is a bracer along with Sara. She helps out Rean at various points and is more or less a permanent fixture in CS4. Her main plot involves her interactions with Rutger Claussell, who has been revived due to being contracted with Zektor, The Palantine Knight. He clashes with the party a few times. Eventually Rean beats him and he allows the process to complete which absorbs Zektor and himself into Valimar, sharing a final goodbye with Fie. Fie spends her bonding events trying to get Rean to see her as the same as the other girls. She is one of six main love interests for Rean.

8acfc4  No.16163842



Like Fie she's a bracer and assists at certain points and joins permanently in CS4. Her main plot is resolving things with the northern jaegers who have fallen under the sway of the curse. She also talks more openly about her past as a jaeger and the captain that raised/recruited her. He's pretty much the reason why she likes older, classy guys. Though starting in CS3 she starts taking an interest in younger guys. Well, at least Rean. She's one of six main love interests for Rean.

>Sharon and Alisa

More background reveals that Sharon originally showed up as an Ouroboros assassin to kill Alisa's father. However, in the aftermath of the explosion that nearly killed her Irina made Sharon swear to serve her family until "Franz" returned, which basically seemed to mean forever. However, "Franz" was actually Black Albrecht, the leader of the Gnomes and he does eventually come back. Sharon goes back to Ouroboros, becoming an enemy several times in CS4. Eventually Irina says that since "Franz" didn't come back, Albrecht did, she's still bound by her old oath and she should do what she wants anyway. Sharon then officially leaves Ouroboros to be a permanent Reinford maid and spend some time with Anton. Alisa more or less does random technical shit and angsts about her father and Sharon. She is one of six potential main love interests for Rean.


With Rufus being governor general of Crossbell, Jusis is more or less Duke Alberea now. He actually spends a lot of time paired with Millium. He also has been in contact with Angelica, Patrick and Musse Egret (one of Rean's students), who's real name is Mildine Cayenne, to from something of a new, more benevolent noble alliance. They form the backbone of the resistance to Osborne in CS4, also joining up with Calvard, Liberl, Crossbell rebels, Remeferia, Leman and Arteria to oppose the massive conscripted army raised by Erebonia. In the final confrontation in CS3, Rufus reveals to Jusis they aren't even brothers. Turns out Helmut was a cuck, and his wife fucked his brother than that's where Rufus came from. This is what caused him to bring Jusis into the family, but in order to not publicly expose his shame of being a cuck, he kept treating Rufus well and Jusis like shit so no one would suspect, which disgusted Rufus and pushed him to Osborne after Rufus' pathetic attempt to use Vulcan's jaeger corp to assassinate Osborne failed, which is how he became an ironblood. Jusis is pretty torn up by Millium's death and spends a good portion of CS4 angsting about it. He eventually settles things with Rufus, who has gone pretty far off the deep end due to the curse, by punching him. Millium's soul is eventually freed from Valimar's sword in the true ending and put into a new body, so he got his waifu back. She even caught the bouquet at Schera and Olivert's wedding.


Awakeners are essentially immortal, so Crow revived not long after CS2, though kind of undead (just like Arianrhod and Rutger) but he was mind controlled by the gnomes soon after and spends most of CS3 as a masked mook calling himself "Azure Siegfried." The mind control breaks at the end of CS3 and he helps the others bust Rean out partway through CS4 along with Duvalie. He then fights Rean as the first official rivalry, but Rean refuses to allow Crow and Ordine be absorbed into Valimar and shares his life force with him. Crow then spends the rest of the game as a main party member, feeling like he's on borrowed time but trying to settle old debts. In the normal ending he dies with Rean and Millium's soul. In the true ending, though, he miraculously survives though and gets a second chance at life with everyone else.

8acfc4  No.16163885


>Also, how does the gameplay compare to 1 and 2?

Very similar. Overdrives from CS2 are gone. The biggest change is brave orders, which are buffs that can be activated at any time using bravery points (you know those things that you could use to rush and were basically useless most of the time). Some of these are really busted. CS4 fixes the balance on them a bit. Also a break gauge is added to enemies and once it fills they're broken for a bit and every attack on them is a crit. This is something else that be abused. Boss enemies can also go into an "exalted" state too once they take enough damage. They're slightly powered up and they can s-break. On the field you now have to use a special attack to get triple advantage. This uses a meter that builds up by destroying objects on the field. You can only get as much as a double advantage using the old method. The Arcus 2 also has a feature that lets you put a secondary master quartz in, with you getting half the benefits of said quartz.

Any other questions?

460c79  No.16163912


Are the dungeons, map designs, and environments good? The first two both had some really memorable areas right at the end for me.

8acfc4  No.16163919


If you liked the ending dungeons of CS1 and CS2 then yeah, there's definitely more of that kind of stuff. The parties get so big you actually start doing Sky 3rd type things where you have multiple parties and switch between them.

b5d0ab  No.16165445

Why are these threads so fixated on Trails rather than Ys? I thought the latter was Falcom's flagship series.

8acfc4  No.16165491

File: 6866ab0664a9bcd⋯.jpg (32.45 KB, 602x466, 301:233, FieMacdonald.jpg)


Trails is much more plot dense, so there's way more to talk about, since plot and characters discussions tend to go further than talking about the nuance of bump vs button press gameplay.

a19760  No.16165888

Jesus fuck damn I feel so much anxiety over NisA releasing the CS3. How in hell on this god forsaken earth can they have said nothing of a PC release? XSEED had their shit together so good on this and what are the chances of NisA putting in the same effort? Or even releasing a port at all? It's too painful. If these cunts don't fuck this up I will eat my hat.

b31856  No.16166208


Of course they'll release ports. It's how they can parade Ys 8 around as a success despite most versions being fucked in some way. It comes to sales and so long as there are sheep, they'll get money and flaunt it to Falcom.

e95750  No.16166515


Hell, a perfect localization and PC release is pretty much the only way they'd get my money. And after the shitfest of Ys VIII, the chances of that happening must be less than 5%.

8acfc4  No.16166567


If they're smart they'll just do what XSeed did. Pay Durante a flat fee and just have him fucking do it. I bet it's a fast job because I don't think the engine is that different from CS1 and 2. We'll see if they do it or not.

a19760  No.16166793

File: 953b1c55b52b5b1⋯.jpg (519.42 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, 14126.jpg)


I hope you're right. It's so obvious that what NisA has done is hostile. They could have spent their time on getting the rights to countless great Japanese IPs; but they went after XSEEDs, because they wanted to stifle their competition and extract the potential of two niche series' with established reputations instead of taking the risk and putting in the hard work of localising games with a limited following outside of Japan. How anyone could confuse this situation as a positive development is really obtuse.


>I bet it's a fast job because I don't think the engine is that different from CS1 and 2.

You'd think so, right? It would also be reasonable to assume that there would be an offical release of the Crossbell games before CS3 given their quality and importance to the story. Are people unaware of this issue? Why couldn't XSEED or NisA just steal the fan tl, polish it up, and add the psp exclusive content?

8acfc4  No.16166877


>It would also be reasonable to assume that there would be an offical release of the Crossbell games before CS3 given their quality and importance to the story

Honestly, that one's easier to explain away. Mostly that the pre-3D Trails games sell considerably worse than CS did and it could easily be argued the return wouldn't be wroth the cost of the translation. And well, CS3 and 4 do explain the the characters and things through flashbacks to the point where you won't be lost but it won't have an emotional impact on you either. Then again, the same thing happened to the people who played CS before Sky, of which there were many. In the end it comes down to CS3 being the new one.

>Why couldn't XSEED or NisA just steal the fan tl, polish it up, and add the psp exclusive content?

The fan tl is coherent but no way would pass muster on an official basis. You'd still have to edit every line, which costs man hours. Again, I think it would be a worthwhile job, but I understand why XSeed never did it and given NISA it's not a surprise at all they wouldn't go for it.

8f557e  No.16166911


>Hell, a perfect localization and PC release is pretty much the only way they'd get my money.

Even if they managed to not fuck everything up, it would be completely pointless to reward them knowing their history. NISA thrives on the complacency of consumers, if you reward them for one non-fucked up game they use that cash to screw over future games. They been doing the same song and dance for over a decade, yet people keep falling for it.

a19760  No.16166951


>people who played CS before Sky, of which there were many.

That's so painful.

8acfc4  No.16166960

File: eea748f4dd1c41d⋯.jpg (256.42 KB, 1293x877, 1293:877, 3rd.jpg)


Sadly the amount of people who see a 2.5d game with portraits and complain it looks old while loving a game because it has 3D models are many. I wish it wasn't the case. At the very least a lot of those people did go back and play Sky after, which speaks to the quality Trails has to pull people in, but I still wish more people would simply play in the intended order.

71b159  No.16166980


I was one of those assholes. In my defense CS was my first exposure to the franchise and Falcom games in general. By now I've gone through all of Sky and Zero/Ao, I really love all these games.

51c523  No.16167176


I'm one of those assholes. I tried playing Sky and found it super boring. Fight me.

b31856  No.16167210


That's how I initially got into the series I actually bought Sky first when it came out on PC because I saw people making a big deal out of it here and wanted a new RPG to play, but held off on playing it for whatever reason probably because of work. Played CS 1 and 2 then remembered I had Sky FC waiting

5f5455  No.16167763

File: ba3d05b80c4d7d3⋯.png (4.71 KB, 247x242, 247:242, fghk.PNG)

i found this mega pasta for falcom


i am searching on how to get arcturus working/installed, can anyone help me out here? i got two disc cue/bin. Extraced i get from disc one an installer exe but what am i going to do with disc 2? And how am i going to aply the english patch?

5f5455  No.16168902


ok, got it installed and running but it is one giant mess of bugs and shit. Nothing is able to open the .pak file and the game freezed as soon you chooce the scenario.


b31856  No.16177498

Piss4 version of CS is due out March 26th now.

8acfc4  No.16178233

File: 39b20fe09cdbca8⋯.png (396.52 KB, 605x537, 605:537, DCDouglas.png)

File: e2b80666f9430ff⋯.mp4 (4.92 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, MachiasBack.mp4)

More role confirmations. DC Douglas back as Rufus/Valimar. Edward Bosco back as Machias. If would seem they have already done their recording.

a4b82d  No.16181159


It's not as bad as those people that played SC before FC.

6cfc5c  No.16181836

File: da953727d2977f6⋯.png (10.55 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, Ys VIII Beach.png)

Just finished Ys VIII, extremely good game, horrible translation with grammatical errors that me, a non-native English speaker, could find without even trying, missing words and duplicated phrases pasted in sequence instead of what the characters were actually talking about.

I'm praying to God that NISA does not get Ys IX because i don't want this lazy work to be done with my favorite franchise again.

8acfc4  No.16181906

File: f0ce1aeb8a459eb⋯.mp4 (13.9 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, SunshineCoastline.mp4)


Believe it or not the original translation was even worse. I honestly don't recall any duplicated lines from the updated one, but it was a frequent problem with the original translation. In any case, I really liked the game too (I didn't pay for it don't worry), but I can get why classic Ys fans would be pissed. But in terms of story, it's definitely high up on the list as far as Ys goes. I liked Dana a lot. Also the ost is excellent.

6cfc5c  No.16181936


>it's definitely high up on the list as far as Ys goes.

hell, it's the first game that my heart hurt a bit at the ending scenes with everyone getting on the boat.

>Also the ost is excellent.

It really is, way better than the bland OST from Celceta the raid theme and night dungeon themes are my favorites by far.

8acfc4  No.16193206

File: 95cbbd38ad4b4eb⋯.png (670.72 KB, 853x652, 853:652, BerylGrave.png)

3ea5b1  No.16199795

File: 664b0aa0f3676f9⋯.jpg (164.3 KB, 639x361, 639:361, ys_apple.jpg)

Streaman dat Ys I Complete, get in here for some fun, my dudes.


8acfc4  No.16199854

File: c291598aeef77c5⋯.png (397.85 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Ys.png)

3b95c6  No.16199875

File: 38e7da3e5d6be6e⋯.jpg (249.32 KB, 798x963, 266:321, 38e7da3e5d6be6ead70c6da351….jpg)

>There are people that absolutely loves Cold Steel I & II but hates Sky because "the graphics are too old and shit"

>As if CS had AAA models and animations

Why are CSfags so cancerous?

d3beec  No.16199881

File: 9f9a1380f2ae932⋯.jpg (28.91 KB, 360x360, 1:1, tokyo-xanadu-ex-477947.15.jpg)

Nobody ever talks about Tokyo Xanadu Ex. I bet if it was done by Falcom and had an English dub it would have sold more. The game did well in Japan apparently so we'll see a sequel some day.

It certainly scratches that "I need to talk to all the NPCs" itch and reaches levels of anime that should not even be possible.

3b95c6  No.16199895


TX is just a pretty mediocre and extremely forgettable game, that's why. It sold a lot in japan cause it knew how to pander itself, but Japs barely gave a fuck when it was re-released for the PS4. Ys 8 sold much less yet the PS4 version sold much more than TX's.

8acfc4  No.16199944

File: 9b478258aa3f8a1⋯.jpg (417.7 KB, 850x1321, 850:1321, Rion.jpg)


>There are people that absolutely loves Cold Steel I & II but hates Sky because "the graphics are too old and shit"

I don't think there are too many of those. But there are people who played Cold Steel first because it looked more modern. After getting into the series I think very few people keep that mentality, though there are always some outliers. But don't learn too hard into the "Reee! CSfags!" mentality, since it was primarily created by cuckchan to creation needless factionalization in the community. In truth there are things I love and dislike about each arc,but I like them all.


Funnily enough I'm playing it now. It's okay, but Arksys got way worse with the translation as the game goes along, that's when you start seeing a lot of the cringy stuff like "fukkleducks" and the horrible out of nowhere Cthulu exchange. I actually just got done with Ys 8 too (I didn't pay for either, don't worry) and I actually think Ys 8's re-translation is actually better than TX's. I mean, Ys 8 (post patch) is basically a "garden variety anime subtitles" translation. TX is the one with all the embarrassing cringy memer shit. All in all, TX is not a bad game, it's basically CS1's structure mixed with Zwei combat. Kondo has more or less confirmed there will be a sequel some day, and I'm curious to see what it will be like considering so much of the original was curbed from CS. By far the most inexplicable thing about TX is how it has the best OP of any Falcom game. I'm honestly baffled. It's basically professional tier. Compare it to CS3 and 4's amateur hour OPs with excessive quality and it's like two different parent companies made the games.

23a2c2  No.16201750

File: 1bc9fd387c2537a⋯.jpg (83.07 KB, 720x720, 1:1, image(12).jpg)


This reminds me how portable consoles and phones have replaced PlayStation. I just can't even imagine how someone can actually play on a Vita.


I have pretty low standards for localisation but what Aksys did is not acceptable. They clearly didn't understand how text heavy Falcom games are and it was too much for them to handle.

8acfc4  No.16201818

File: df3a2df26a0e4d9⋯.jpg (302.65 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc1.jpg)

File: f756ba1c7153050⋯.jpg (331.94 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc5.jpg)

File: 4e0ec9199ddf446⋯.jpg (366.49 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc6.jpg)

File: 5c8b9d6a390abdf⋯.jpg (161.88 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc9.jpg)

File: 79b326158059da1⋯.jpg (223.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc12.jpg)


I've been cataloguing all the ones that triggering my autism when I saw them. There are some highlights (or lowlights, I guess)

8acfc4  No.16201824

File: 49120a215615cca⋯.jpg (299.99 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc11.jpg)

File: f15e179f0f1aa36⋯.jpg (149.78 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc13.jpg)

File: 0e65439dc1cb191⋯.jpg (306.87 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXCthulu1.jpg)

File: 17d406f733f9406⋯.jpg (314.2 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXCthulu2.jpg)

File: 9d29af9482639fa⋯.jpg (313.24 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXCthulu3.jpg)


And the last three in this set are from the worst exchange I could find in the whole game (so far). I am almost positive this exchange is 99% fan fiction.

a4b82d  No.16201856


I want to see the person that thought this was funny.

572be0  No.16201879




But can my toaster run it?

5f35db  No.16201950


My god I've not seen translation this bad that's not a VN since working deigns closed down.

5912ad  No.16202033


Honesty I don't think I've ever seen a "CS fag". You see people play the games in odd order due to how they got exposed to the franchise, but I've never known anyone to just shit on Sky or Zero/Ao. If anything I see lots of posts bitching about muh school settings and muh haremshit in regards to CS.

572be0  No.16202045


If we are being fair both CS1 and FC are both really, REALLY slow starts to either saga where "the good shit" starts like 20 hours in and it's not really confusing to see someone shit on either game for being too slow and too generic at first.

8a40ee  No.16202420


This is more or less the issue with someone just entering into the games. Im not sure why CS1 hooked me like it did because i hate jrpgs, but once it got going i couldnt help myself. Just need to wrap up 3 and 4 and ill be caught up with them all. My order was probably how a lot of new players get into it:

CS1/2 -> TiTS1-3 -> Crossbell

052bb7  No.16202532


It's too fucking boring and a big massive step back considering the last Xanadu game. It felt like it was just made to shill to the persona audience. The god awful localization didn't help either.

That game really makes me worried for whenever that cuckold Kondo decides to greenlight a new Brandish game

3b95c6  No.16202555


Good thing it's not a Xanadu game.

052bb7  No.16202569


It's not a Xanadu game but it still drags the name through the mud

572be0  No.16202610


>It's actually running 60 fps on all low

I don't believe it, I hope to god the framerate doesn't tank when I leave this ship.

Inferno or Nightmare mode?

Also thank fuck I pirated it because turning off shadow is said to "destabilize the app" and that makes my hope that this game will be completely smooth sailing plummet.

572be0  No.16202734


>Framerate tanks on camera shakes and only camera shakes

>Sound cuts out every five minutes or so and I have to volume up/down to get it back to normal

Otherwise it's playable. Why is Adol's run so feminine?

572be0  No.16202852


>Frame tanks not on camera shakes, but on screen effects like blurs and the red border for low health.

>Since the first boss relies on that effect, it's common to have framerate tanks

How do you fuck this up? This is like Tribes Ascend where the helmet cracking effect had a significant 10 or so frame impact on the performance.

c6fdba  No.16202957

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Recently finished Tokyo Xanadu eX+. It's no Legend of Coldsteel, but was still was a fun game with relatively interesting stories/characters. I'd recommend playing it on a harder difficulty though because normal was piss easy. Also, am I the only one who preferred the original end to the "true" end? The true end just seemed like a forced happy go lucky twist (to an already convoluted part of the story) to appease people who were sad about the first ending.

b31856  No.16205148


"works on my machine" posts should never be taken seriously.

572be0  No.16206081


But it does work on my, and I assume anyone else's machine, but the fact that the blurring effect tanks the framerate makes the game nigh unplayable.

There existed a fix but of course a future update made it function no longer.

636937  No.16206300

File: e03b9df030c8361⋯.jpg (106.77 KB, 960x544, 30:17, Ao_12(2).jpg)


PC has a million different hardware combinations. I have seen games that run like shit with specific drivers. Its why there is a PC gaming wiki.

878cf8  No.16206901


how to patch this?

36992a  No.16207894

File: 5c2f6be68880d51⋯.png (314.09 KB, 836x872, 209:218, Anti-NISA anon was right1.PNG)

File: 7f89ae8c5bd743a⋯.png (64.58 KB, 1205x600, 241:120, Anti-NISA anon was right2.PNG)

Just a reminder

36992a  No.16207899


Those people are actual retards

8acfc4  No.16207933

File: 3c060fd0ec43a72⋯.jpg (98.84 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, TheGameWasRiggedFromTheSta….jpg)


The only thing he was wrong about is assuming it would make a difference how Ys VIII did. Falcom had already sold their soul to NISA before we had a chance to influence anything. Kondo and NIS's president are all buddy buddy now and have been for years. The game was rigged from the start.

e95750  No.16208419



AKSYS, goddammit! "Arcsys" is Arc System Works, the Japanese fighting game developer! Learn your names!

e95750  No.16208429


Good point. It should've been called Tokyo Zwei.

4be6cf  No.16212495

File: 77b64853b66bd77⋯.png (3.29 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 01.png)

File: 5fe707453843694⋯.png (3.24 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 02.png)


Nah, it's more of a Legends of Tokyo Trails in the City. They really should have experimented much more with the gameplay.


I don't even remember the ending and I also play all of Falcoms games on hard difficulty to start out with but even that was really boring in Tokyo;ExBirth+. Sora best.

8acfc4  No.16212589

File: 1ab7c30662ddd85⋯.jpg (289.04 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXSora1.jpg)

File: e0714d897056406⋯.jpg (264.85 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXSora2.jpg)

File: 1e203dd1cde3f2e⋯.jpg (317.08 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXSora3.jpg)



Good choice, anon.

b9d867  No.16216504



Is there a patch to fix this? I don't want to get invested in a localization this awful.

d89c42  No.16216534


Nope. Falcom fans are known all throughout the world as huge cuckolds since they still play and buy these terribly translated games. Even Nepfags make their own translations. Pretty sad, if I do say so myself.

3b95c6  No.16216547


Don't worry anon, there's nothing to get invested in about this game

b9d867  No.16216554


Wow fuck


Just don't play it then?

3b95c6  No.16216638


Imagine trying to make a mix of Ys and Trails without being as good in any of those fields. That's TX. An easy cash-in for Falcom that knows how to pander itself to Japan.

8acfc4  No.16216715

File: 64507ac42b7183a⋯.jpg (203.77 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXCthulu4.jpg)

File: 1d1e6c4d4bb652c⋯.jpg (338.66 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXCthulu5.jpg)

File: 100a1d7b940fcdd⋯.jpg (556.67 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXloc19.jpg)

File: f0d7a71ff559229⋯.jpg (236.8 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc21.jpg)

File: acf9ec2aac11f35⋯.jpg (490.28 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXLoc23.jpg)


There isn't. It probably wouldn't be too hard to make. I know it looks like from the examples I've provided that this is the way the whole game looks, but that's not really the case. Only about 5% of the localization is this retarded shit at most, it just really stands out. You'd probably have to only change less than a hundred lines but I have no idea how you do that, where to find the original script or how to translate it well.


I just think people don't give a shit about TX, which I kind of get. If you're trying to use the dropping of the Ys 8 retranslation as an example, I just played through that game and found nothing to screenshot the way I did here. There were no memes or lines that jumped out as being obviously wrong. In the patched version anyway. I took a peak at the pre-patch and it beggared fucking belief but I did a thorough sweep of of Ys 8 doing all the sidequests and optional character dialogue and didn't find anything close to what I've found while going through TX.


It had it's moments. There's a lot of slow parts, though and it takes quite a bit to get going. For something cooked up with a lot of reused assets in like 9 months it wasn't bad. But it's not Trails good, either. Ys 8 has a better story too. Like I said, there are some good parts, but it's marred by a lot of blemishes before even taking the localization into account.

b9d867  No.16216916


What's with their obsession with Cthulu? And is saying sad panda just some normalfag meme now and not just for filtering newfags?

d89c42  No.16216933

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Old joke but a recent meme, I guess.

c75a82  No.16216953

File: 80194482d10b48a⋯.jpg (53.79 KB, 714x1024, 357:512, cease.jpg)


>sad panda

>dear Cthulu

I've heard about shit localization but I didn't realize how fucked everything truly is. Who approves of this blasphemous garbage?

8acfc4  No.16216969

File: 13bac6939643df6⋯.jpg (297.24 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, TXImagine.jpg)


>What's with their obsession with Cthulu?

I have no idea. Clearly one of the grunts translation this had just played Arkham Horror with their soy friends or something. I think that's every Cthulu reference in the script, though. I've been pretty thorough. I mean, one is too many, but it's such a weirdly specific thing to come up.

>is saying sad panda just some normalfag meme now and not just for filtering newfags

Keep in mind calling yourself a sad panda is not the same as sad panda in the image board sense, which is always referring to exhentai. So it's just someone being and overly cloying and cutesy normalfag.


>Who approves of this blasphemous garbage?

Aksys, who from what I understand are wildly inconsistent.

b31856  No.16217587


being a "sad panda" was, like, 2011 or 2012 "humor". I know because everyone in my high school at the time did that shit. The weebs did, of course. From what I understand, they end up fucking a lot of the VNs they end up handling. Haven't bought any of them since they're usually yaoi or female perspective with no yuri options


>a image

People who fuck up that basic shit shouldn't be writing anything if English is their first language.

8acfc4  No.16218018

File: 484083d68bc07ff⋯.jpg (119.2 KB, 960x960, 1:1, MusseQipao.jpg)

>Chinks get Musse qipao DLC. Goddamn that's paizuri-bait right there.

b9d867  No.16218352



Ah right, I forgot about that episode. Guess I assumed that most other people would have too.

c2511c  No.16218580

TITS 1, I'm in the final chapter now. Got past the stuck roadblock mob of wolves. In the fight arena scene, fun stuff, story heating up.

8acfc4  No.16218620

File: 34e755b0f39cf3a⋯.jpg (47.25 KB, 540x356, 135:89, EstelleJoshuaYEAH.jpg)


Yeah, that's when the story starts getting really good.

08cc27  No.16218953

Fuck you NISA all I wanted to do was play Ys 8.

35e3a2  No.16218964


I mean, if you're a PC gaymer, you can't even learn Jap to play it; they fucked up the PC port for the nips.

08cc27  No.16218984


I've decided I'll try downloading the updates and see if the blur tanking effect is still occuring. If not I'm still going to be mildly upset.

Is Nightmare in Ys8 supposed to be really easy? The tentacle boss was a joke and so is the bat-bear hybrid you fight with Laxia who I might add is already better than Karna, Aisha, Sigroon, Freida or Mia is an even bigger joke provided I get rid of this framerate tank. Should I restart with Inferno instead?

9cd88a  No.16219172

Does it matter what order you play the Ys games in? If not, which should I start with?

08cc27  No.16219211


Not really, but it makes sense playing the most recent remakes in order they're said to be.

Ys Chronicles(1/2), Ys Oath in Felghana(3), Ys Dawn of Ys 4fuck memories of celceta, 5 has no decent game yet, Ark of Nephatism(6), Ys Origin(Basically prequel to 1/2 but it makes sense since it follows the same gameplay style as Felghana and Nephatism), Seven, Danaif you can run it..

08cc27  No.16219586




Ok anons, here's how you get Lacrimosa of Dana working decently on your PC.

>Download Fatgirl's repack of the game

>Download Codex's update 20180709. You can find it on just about any turrent site, be sure to use the one uploaded by mercs213(one of the files is GoodOldDownload's and NOT IGGames)


At least until I play this some more and hopefully there are no more bugs hidden.

3b95c6  No.16220815


I recommend playing by release order, the chronological order isn't the best since Ys is all about the gameplay and you won't miss a thing. I & II -> Ark of Napishtim -> Oath in Felghana -> Origin -> Seven -> Memories of Celceta -> Lacrimosa of Dana

302090  No.16221023


So far I've only hit a single hitch, one boss had an attack that crashed the game until I turned on shadows. Then that attack just momentiarly fucked up the graphics before reverting back to normal a second later.

The game is great, just finished my first interception mission. If I had any complaints, it would be that switching characters could be a bit more fluid, and the bosses are still not up to that felghana/origin standard. But they are really fun and a massive stepup from Ys Seven and Celceta, they are lethal while also dying fairly quickly and their attacks are mostly powerful and hard to cheese with flash guard/move. I feel that jumping and the whole third axis of movement gives the game a fair amount of depth over Seven and MoC.

Also I really like the characters outside of the fisherman. It's probably the translation's fault but I'm sick of all his lines starting with Gah-ha-ha. Otherwise so far the three characters I have play fairly differently in terms of movement, attack chains and skills(Laxia's playstyle, especially her blitz rush, is really fun) and from a writing prespective I like the kiseki type bonds you're forming with these characters. Laxia is an A++ waifu. Her outfit, her smug face, how tsundere nature, how she's constantly trying to pull her weight instead of bitching at everyone else, while still being feminine enough to be embarrassed at being seen naked. I had pirated a repack that let me opt out of voices so I decided to do so just for a test, but I hope that downloading the english voices isn't a terrible mistake and she's voiced by Burch or some shit. The interception fight was great and had excellent music and I think I like that gimmick. Fishing is nice and comfy, and I really like the idea of all the shops and facilities in the game relying purely on a trade materials system, it makes excellent sense and it turned the utter fucking mess that was the humogous amount of worthless materials in Seven and Celceta.

I fucking love it. I think one more game in this style and they'll make something as good as Felghana and Origin. Not that this is bad, but those two are on a level of their own.

Dear God all mighty, please, please, don't let NISA get their grubby hands on Ys 9, and if they do, at the very least let their port be playable so I can pirate it. Amen.

I'm still disappointed how Falcom refuses to have gear visually change your character model, but costumes are a decent addition. I'd unlocked Adol's one and green looks nice on him, but I'd be disappointed if all characters have one costume/they're all recolors.

c513df  No.16221471


I finished the game and the only bugs i've seen are translation ones, like duplicate phrases or words missing.

I played with the japanese voices and Sahad does start 80% of his phrases with GWAHAHA, he is by far the most annoying char in the game.


>Using the english voices

Why do you want to hurt yourself so anon?

8acfc4  No.16221554

File: 48cea8301996ab3⋯.png (1.47 MB, 906x1280, 453:640, Laxia.png)


>It's probably the translation's fault but I'm sick of all his lines starting with Gah-ha-ha

Falcom just a problem with writing characters starting their lines with laughter. It's just this writing tic they've always had. People made fun of Cold Steel for all the "ha ha"s but I've seen the game in Japanese and I swear like 25% of every line starts with "Fufu." XSeed probably cut at least half of them.

>Laxia is an A++ waifu

She's good yeah. I like her a lot. She kind of gets shelved once Dana shows up, though, who is also very good in my opinion.

>isn't a terrible mistake and she's voiced by Burch or some shit

She's voiced by Kira Buckland, aka 2B.

302090  No.16222782


Most of the time when someone talks and their subtitles appear in the top left I normally get hit or die because I want to read what it is they say, it's kind of like the most recent Samurai Warriors, I'd rather not take my eyes off the action for a second or keep going into a menu to read what I had missed.

Also I'm curious what VA they chose for Adol since he does seem to be talking during the interception missions.

8acfc4  No.16222799


>Also I'm curious what VA they chose for Adol since he does seem to be talking during the interception missions.

Bryce Papenbrook. It sounds a lot like what he did for Agate.

8a40ee  No.16223077

so anons, playing CS1 again on PC and finally at the cutscene where vita shows you the shit going down at the capital and the game crashes. Ive read everything online and I do have an AMD gpu so I had to lower msaa way back at the start of the game. However, nothing has worked so far and I should also point out the game is not crashing during that video scene, rather it crashes when the suits of armor are coming down and begin to move during the cutscene that follows after the little video vita shows any help is appreciated though I have a feeling im fucked and it will never get fixed

8b871a  No.16223192

File: 3d57f41e3d35eef⋯.jpg (463.65 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Ys-VIII-Lacrimosa-of-Dana_….jpg)


At the end of the day its all about money.

People buying Ys 8 for €70 vs. people being angry on imageboards. We know who won that round.

The next match is

People buying CS3 for €70 vs. people being angry on imageboards.

8b871a  No.16223210

File: 447330937d8a5b3⋯.jpg (138.32 KB, 960x544, 30:17, The-Legend-of-Heroes-Trail….jpg)


I feel bad for those who played FC on release.

Imagine that GODDAMN cliffhanger and having to wait 4 years. Sasuga Xseed.

874734  No.16223214


I still had to wait like 18 months as I played it maybe a year after launch. Was worth it though.

8b871a  No.16223218


Definitely. I feel the PSP was Falcom golden age.

8a40ee  No.16223330


Went through some testing and I suspect it was a Windows 10 update that breaks the game at least on some systems. Windows 7 works perfectly fine. I really need to grab a 7 install to use for offline games.

27966a  No.16223723


This is one of the problems with win10. There are games that run fine on 1607 but become unplayable when MS releases a feature update.

Developers generally don't give a shit about their old catalogue so when MS breaks something you're SOL.

8acfc4  No.16224303

File: a4d898031af1664⋯.jpg (283.46 KB, 1268x1816, 317:454, RenneDo1.jpg)

File: dc8854577e8b92a⋯.jpg (586.88 KB, 1250x1818, 625:909, RenneDo2.jpg)

File: 2320ba0a7c005e5⋯.jpg (668.61 KB, 1250x1820, 125:182, RenneDo3.jpg)

File: 722e512753de790⋯.jpg (547.95 KB, 1250x1817, 1250:1817, RenneDo4.jpg)

File: fefb78f07a990e8⋯.jpg (526.5 KB, 1249x1820, 1249:1820, RenneDo5.jpg)

8a40ee  No.16225763


Yea ive just gone and placed an install of windows 7 on an empty ssd i had. Game works flawlessly. Fuck microsoft for their shit OS, but it will only continue to grow. Ill just keep an offline 7 for the rest of my days since i know it will work

d5b2c1  No.16225815

File: 0e82e9f37d15cab⋯.png (106.91 KB, 226x437, 226:437, 15561489498894165.png)


>Windows 10

49c578  No.16226331


You should still let them know in the steam forums, Xseed will actually put out fixes as long as people come forward with accurate descriptions of the problem.

Also if you're using windows 10, block feature updates, or at least defer them for the maximum amount of time possible. They always break a ton of shit because they release completely untested. Last year they put out a feature update that deleted files, MS has nothing but streetshitters on visas working for peanuts slamming together windows now.

8acfc4  No.16230289

File: 545015bb46e76dc⋯.png (285.59 KB, 513x657, 57:73, TioRenneHappyFace.png)

302090  No.16230460

Here's a thought, how about instead of stupid annoying sexy party members, Adol tries his hands at different weapons, each giving him new movesets and skills and shit? And party members are just support faggots who cast magic or something like Noi from Nayuta no Kiseki?

I can't help my autism, Adol just doesn't seem as cool if he isn't one man army-ing entire monster armies, three health bars makes bosses less tense than before and it makes the entire party even lamer by comparison when it comes to someone like Scias, Renmos or Nameless where like 7 fuckers, including motherfucking Adol, can't take out a single edgelord.

That aside I really want to see Ys 9 gameplay

ec23b0  No.16230536

Oh boy, NISA stream in 6 hours.

8acfc4  No.16230543


Supposedly the same "insiders" who correctly predicted CS3 back in January say no Falcom stuff this time. I guess we'll see.

302090  No.16230545


If Ys 9 is anywhere near that stream I'm going to be mildly upset but also happy that I can pirate it with a free conscious.

ec23b0  No.16230619


I'm already planning on importing it. Ys VIII was manageable in Japanese with google translated walkthroughs. I'll still pirate it in 2022 when it's playable on PC.

ec23b0  No.16230621


Everybody was going "TIME FOR COLD STEEL HAHA" every time NISA made an announcement. Could've just gotten lucky.

8a40ee  No.16230723

What are the primary characters in 3 and 4? I take it rean is the MC in both but does it follow the same chars that 1 and 2 focused on or are we working with entirely different people?

a6f857  No.16230823


I'm gonna try this and hope for the best. I haven't played an Ys game since origin/Felghana.

b31856  No.16230847

Falcom have split the trails team into two, they now use motion capture techniques and are looking into more piss4 ports. According to a new gematsu article.


Rean oversees a new class at the new Thors branch in 3 and 4. The old class 7 still shows up but it mainly has to do with the new class. Older characters from Sky and Crossbell show up as well. in 4 nearly everyone shows up from the past games and they mix together with the newer characters fairly well

d6f017  No.16230942


So the story doesnt focus around the old class from 1 and 2? Instead theyre more like side characters? Is it comparable to how josh and estelle appear during the crossbell arc? do i at least get to romance my waifu from the first two games still?

a6f857  No.16231041



Do Seven and Celceta suck? Should I just skip them? I played the whole series up to Origin/6/Felghana.

b31856  No.16231159


You can still waifu the characters from the first 2 coldsteel games, yeah.

8acfc4  No.16231549


It's definitely not as drastic a screentime reduction as Joshua and Estelle in Zero. In CS3 the story is primarily about Rean and his new class, but the old characters do show up plenty and each chapter focuses on a set of them and the final chapter has all of them. CS4 has everyone and both new and old Class VII are pretty much around the whole time. And yeah, all of Rean's main six possible love interests are from the first games.

b31856  No.16231607


Turns out they just picked up some games Atlus had originally published.

c43101  No.16231943


Pisses me right the fuck off.

Why Atlus why?

NISA couldn't have possibly outbid them, why'd they give them up so easily?

8acfc4  No.16231982


>why'd they give them up so easily?

Well…it could be they're busy. They have a lot of stuff coming down the pipe.

302090  No.16232231


I don't particularly feel much about Seven. It has some really cool story beats and whatnot, but gameplay wise it's a bit rough with you having seven characters that all pretty much play the same and needing to hold down attack for SP buildup(which is pitiful in Seven, like 5 points compared to Celceta/Dana's 40-ish and also charges automatically on not attacking which is heaven for your hand relief) and also a final boss that's a big fuck you since you are more than likely to have favorites of the seven characters, usually Adol who is also an unswappable member. I'd recommend it for some really cool story beats like Adol's coolest fucking trial by fire and a neat boss fight before the final boss. I also condone using a trainer or something for the first two phases of the final boss before reverting back to normal for the final phase, which is pretty good.

Celceta I hated through and through. The whole Adol has amnesia shit goes nowhere, the music is mostly ass and is often reused(for example the town->dungeon music is reused) and by the 2/3rd point of the game where you navigate the town before and during the stormwall and tower the game starts pulling some serious assery with the enemies, where every enemy is just fucking unfun to fight, can oneshot you and take a good solid 2 or so minutes of wailing on to kill. Those enemies exist earlier in the game but they are clearly higher level enemies to be ignored for later. It has the absolute worst fast travel/crystal teleport gimmick of any game I've played. The only good things I can say about it is that it has a nice ara mage who uses a halberd, and it introduced a QoL upgrade from Seven where charge attacks occur on your next attack, after a small period of not attacking, and SP gain is at least 7 times boosted from Seven which is a blessing. Also skill level ups are three levels rather than 10 and also every level adds an additional effect or something which is cool. Getting skills is

Dana I feel is a massive step up from either game. I'm going to list the major problems I had with either Seven or Celceta and whether or not Dana fixed them

<No jumping/aerial combat

>Fixed, the game has jumping and as a whole feels a lot faster and fluider than the previous two

<Rock/Paper/Scissors weapon type bullshit not really doing anything but forcing a character type on you

>Kind of fixed, the game introduces a break mechanic where a bar fills up after an enemy gets hit with the vulnerability attack type, and after it fills their armor breaks and they take a lot more damage from all weapon types

<Bosses are too boring, with easy, slow attack patterns that deal absurd 1-2 shot damage and also very large health bars

>Definitely fixed. Bosses don't have absurd health bars, and while they don't always have perfect movesets certain bosses have difficult movesets that favor just keeping your distance and waiting for an opening rather than just flash guarding through it. A few bosses still retain bullshit 1-2 shot damage though, though it might be because they outleveled me.

<Leveling later on is a chore

>Circumvented by Raid/Hunt missions, exp boost meals and items. Leveling feels faster.

<Flash Guard/Move breaking the game while also being integeral parts of the combat(Basically timing your dodge/guard before you get hit to get stuff like invincibility+speedup/crits for ~3 seconds)

>Still around, although with enemies and bosses feeling less spongy I don't feel like I'm relying too heavily on them and usually I just get a flash guard/move without actually intending to. The exception being the flash guard I always do before my extra attack for crits.

<Massive amount of materials leading to massive amount of farming

>Shops are all based around trading materials, trading up, trading down, lots of material type heavy landmarks, raid/hunt missions give a large list of materials, can also occasionally wash ashore the main village and you can find all sorts of materials through fishing

<Adol is the only fun character to play

>Sahad is pretty much the only not fun character to play. Everyone else is fast, has some really neat synergy with their skills and their charge attack hitbox and hitstrings makes for some neat variety. Ricotta's english voice fucking sucks.

<Where are the tiddies


tl;dr: Seven/Celceta/Dana introduce the party system. It's not as well implemented as 6/Oath/Origin especially when looking at bosses, but Dana is a massive step in the right direction. I have faith for Ys 9, especially since the difference between Seven/Celceta/Dana is quite noticeable compared to Origin/Oath/6. I'd recommend trying out Seven and dropping it when you feel like it, not really bothering with 6 and playing Dana.

b31856  No.16232570

I guess NISA apparently did have a cold steel 3 spot in that stream of theirs. Didn't watch it because I wouldnt be able to handle their bullshit. Perhaps they'll upload it separate at some point.

8acfc4  No.16232605


Apparently it was just the trailer again and Kondo talking about some gameplay mechanics, which everyone knows, on a bad mic. Nothing new was talked about or shown.

b31856  No.16232620


>still nothing to show despite now two months since they announced they got it and even more since they got it proper

Yeah, its fucked.

c513df  No.16232753

File: 3f8ef42c563b854⋯.jpg (161.98 KB, 744x850, 372:425, 1447330185396.jpg)


Seven has cruxie though, so it gets saved.

I'm starting to think i played a different game to everyone else when i played celceta, the only two things i agree are the lack luster music and kinda annoying fast travel, aside from that the game is completely okay as long as you know how to defend you can down any enemies really fucking fast and aside from the last boss in seven, i didn't felt any bosses in either 7 or celceta to be damage sponges.

302090  No.16234781


I played on nightmare and they just feel that way when they don't have attacks that feel satisfying to dodge. Let me explain

Think back to the second boss in Felghana, the big tiddied demon who throws vertical and horizontal saws at you. Basically she goes down really fast, but so do you, and her attacks are pretty dangerous and require lots of focus and positioning to get past, but also she never lets up so while you're dodging, you also need to attack while dodging, which makes for some really intense boss fights. Most bosses in Oath had this, most bosses in Origin had this, particularly the rival characters.

The problem with Seven is, a lot of attacks can one/two shot you, mainly because it feels like it's taking into consideration the healing/revive items. For me I do not wish to have a downed party member during a boss fight because they miss out on the XP. Meanwhile a lot of their attacks are very telegraphed and favor keeping your distance and waiting for their cooldown/not attacking period to start wailing on them. And keeping your distance is boring, so you get flash guarding. Flash Guarding in seven is pretty fuck considering it has no Iframes so you're stuck mashing the shoulder buttons since a lot of attacks in Seven like the tornadoes and charges have multiple hitboxes or something like that, so sometimes you can spend up to a minute just flash guarding an attack(See the wind dragon's tornado, some of the final boss attacks for an immediate example) so you can crit, but they still have a lot of health even after you crit them and use your extra skill, and you can die very quickly where in Oath, Origin, and in most Dana fights(funnily enough I feel normal encounters are more susceptible to this than bosses, who deal much more reasonable damage with some exceptions(the big bird dinosaur at the mountain is the immediate example here)) you can take a few hits and keep going.

I think it's all because of the healing item system. Sure you can opt out of using them but the whole game feels designed around that shit. Healing on demand just doesn't really fit Ys at all and I wish they'd understand this in Ys 9, but I doubt it.

Cruxie is alright. I hated her segment of the final boss fight slightly less than Dogi's.

8a40ee  No.16234880

So anons, these past few months I have gone through sky, crossbell, and am currently re-playing cold steel again. I finished 1 and went straight into 2, but I am beginning to see it in a different perspective. Having played CS1+2 first in this series and then going to Sky/Crossbell, it feels like CS is really dull. I'm not sure what word to use to describe it but CS just feels like a really bad extension after going through it again. CS1 was rough around the edges but I could accept that after having gone through Sky and Crossbell in certain areas. But CS2 just kinda feels like it slowed down a lot and you're basically working with a class of kids who have zero conviction. This is especially true at the ending when everyone leaves and goes their own ways. It felt like that was a rather strange contradiction to what the game had been hyping up. I don't know much of 3 or 4, but I do know that a lot of characters from the past 2 arcs appear and I wonder if they just wanted to toss everyone in to make it seem epic or something. At the end of the day it feels very boring and far too "we're going to save the world". Maybe playing again was a mistake

8a40ee  No.16234887


Hate to double post but one more thing has been bothering me as well. The scale of the cast in CS just seems like it works against it more than it does for it. I am talking about mostly the males in this game though to an extent the females too. Elliot especially is one that I have seen pretty much no development for other than "muh music" Additionally, Jusis is pretty much given no defining role in what he does. Perhaps its the nobility factor that restrains him, but there just seems to be so little development for such a prominent character

b31856  No.16235130


>class of kids with no conviction

except when their conviction is what they're going to do after getting out of Thors. That was kinda the whole point for a lot of them. To just boost their resume for after they were done so they had a better chance at doing what they wanted they sped through their learning because they felt like they were ready enough to take on the world. They all went their separate ways because that's how things are in the real world and it was to accentuate how much Rean was chained in his position. While everyone else got to leave and do their own thing, Rean was stuck being a puppet and essentially back to square one in how he felt about himself. There wasn't a contradiction I do think it was a bit rushed though.

8a40ee  No.16235149


I guess it just felt like they had a chance to stop osborne which falcom has built up as someone who needs stopping since sky. But then crow dies and nothing happens. In fact, the entire plot of cs2 feels like bring crow back to graduate which just makes it seem odd. It seems like there are far more pressing matters but its always crow graduate, grow dead, crow crow crow in fact i really dont know why we go do attached to him. Maybe i missed something after 2 playthroughs but he feels so minor in one that him becoming a central plot point feels out of place. I both enjoy/dislike cold steel after this replay. And reading spoilers for 3 and 4 isnt helping.

b31856  No.16235222


I think you did miss a major plot thing about how crow was just acting like everyone's friend and when it turned out he was the big bad of CS1, his betrayal hit hard with everyone dunno how you can call him a minor character. CS2 was about how they gradually learn that Crow was just, ultimately, being used and the point was to get him back and make him realize that even if the friendship was all an act to him, they didnt care. They felt that friendship. They made that their mission to show him that. When he died and Osborne came strolling out, they were defeated. They lost the chess game. Rean offered himself to end the war. They were put in a really shitty situation and Rean took the path that would end the suffering. That's why they couldn't defeat Osborne there.

8a40ee  No.16235236


No i saw it maybe im just overthinking it. We had one field study with him and chilled for a couple months. But that hardly makes me wanna go save his ass. I guess to me that plot point makes the whole of CS2 unbearable because if i knew someone for such a short time and then they shot a big time politician and betrayed me, i wouldnt feel so betrayed as i would disdain for having killed a prominent politician. I just dont see the hard on rean has for crow and it feels forced. I guess i never connected with crow. Had the story been something like laura or emma betraying us i could get that but crow always felt secondary.

b31856  No.16235277


It really doesn't matter how you would feel if you were in Rean's shoes. Rean isn't you. We can see that Rean attaches himself pretty hard to those he considers his friends and after the moment in the Old Schoolhouse where Crow helps protect Elise, Rean considers Crow a friend I do think the player didnt see a whole lot of crow, but that's due to the game skipping months and a field study that Falcom cut but made into a drama CD. The player needs to realize that when the game is skipping months, the characters are still interacting and building friendships. I do agree that it is jarring sometimes but it does make sense.

217ce7  No.16236434

I hope Falcom understands

>no cunnies no munnies

There better be some cute girls for Adol to rescue and ignore in Ys 9.

8acfc4  No.16236944

File: 0f2603a79d9c030⋯.jpeg (589.45 KB, 1448x2048, 181:256, Nox.jpeg)


Goth-chan looks cute, at least.

e72d37  No.16237965


Rean is one hell of a guy if he can become besties with him that quick to warrant a game that practically revolves around plz crow come graduate with us all overall, i gave up a second play through of CS2 since it just isnt holding up for me and id rather keep some good memories of my first play through. Thanks for the thoughts anon

8acfc4  No.16238011


>game that practically revolves around

That's not the main plot, though? It's always a secondary thing. There's always a main plot point that drives them to where they go and he just happens to be there too. For the record, despite what Crow says it's pretty damn obvious he liked Rean and Class VII and considered them friends. I mean his dialogue makes this pretty clear. It's also true for Towa Angelica and George.And let's be real here this series of full of characters who forgive other characters for bad things. Lowe did a shitton of damage with the dragon and could have easily killed people. Like with Crow he was just lucky other people stopped that from happening. He, in the end, meets a very similar fate. I honestly think people give the plot way too much shit considered some of the other things this series has pulled pre-Cold Steel. If you wanna talk about easily forgiven enemies don't get me fucking started on Crossbell.

e72d37  No.16238032


Im not disagreeing that rean and crow are buds in the universe. Im sure they feel like bros and all but the games do a terrible job, in my view at least, making me feel any connection to crow. The whole betrayal and everything that followed felt so rushed. Im aware of the drama CD but i didnt see it. My main point is that to me, crow is a no one that acts as a funny character here and there and then leaves to do his own stuff. My first time through i guess i didnt really mind cause of other parts but my second time through it just makes it annoying. The "friendships are powerful" trope just isnt appealing to me at the moment

8acfc4  No.16238071


I always felt they were pretty clever at forcing screen-time for him that you wouldn't notice. He's around for some pretty pivotal plot scenes (like seeing Rean's ogre form for the first time), but they didn't overplay it too hard to the point where several people actually did get surprised by the twist. Cold Steel has problems, for sure, especially the first two parts of the arc, but I really don't think Crow is one of those problems.

e72d37  No.16238076


Im probably just picking on him more than i should, though it doesnt change how i feel towards that whole story plot. I enjoy trails but i think for me its a one time play kind of game. Maybe ill visit it again in a decade or two

8acfc4  No.16238097


That's fine. I can definitely see people playing these games like that. They're very long, after all. There's plenty of games I feel that way about, too.

c271e6  No.16238544


You should really do a second play through, because there are you few things in CS2 you won't get unless you have played The 3rd.

The New Game+ content is part of this and it's also pretty important for the story.

a3a432  No.16238586


Two days after I make this post, in comes Dana with exactly what I just asked, and it's fucking glorious, and she has her own solo dungeon that's similar to CS1's ever changing basement, complete with its own set of questlines and I dare to say it might be better than the main game.

What exactly changed in Falcom to trigger such an insane leap in quality from MoC to this game?

XSeed/Falcom I know you lurk this thread you disgusting fucking shills, please make Ys 9 more like this. Fuck the party members, give me cute spirits to rescue and then use their powers.

b31856  No.16238725


XSEED doesn't make these games, anon. Dunno why you're trying to call out to them.

7eca44  No.16239185

File: 08ac8996114bfcd⋯.png (98.84 KB, 320x320, 1:1, 60fbbfb68a2260c13fdea87779….png)

>Lacrimosa of Danas True Ending

I hate the implications of this.

a3a432  No.16239257

>Ricotta: Babies are cute, I'm going to make one!

Honestly I rue the day Falcom makes h-games. Every single woman in Ys 8, every single woman in the brandish games, pure sex.

8acfc4  No.16239476

File: e3248d937b114b4⋯.png (852.4 KB, 722x1009, 722:1009, Ricotta3.png)


You're going to have party members in IX. It's more or less already confirmed.


You just need 200 reputation. As long as you do the sidequests and interception/raids you should have no problem with it.


I remember that line. I had the same thought. Her outfit, goddamn. Nothing under the overalls. Always just an inch or two from showing something, but still technically covered.

a3a432  No.16239793



At least they're probably going to have a counterpart to Dana in this game who has her stances and shit, Dana is great to play as.

Honestly Adol could use a better moveset. I'm not a big fan of wide circle attacks and light blade slashes, Dana is much more dynamic to use especially with her forms giving her different variations of the skills. I'm hoping the big monkey trainer gives him a really good skill because I'm kind of getting sick of spamming Blade Rush now.

a3a432  No.16239802


But if I'm being fair, Dana has like three or so skills that are just standalone attacks from her 40 sp attack.

b8d64b  No.16240533


Actually, some rumours says that Adol will not be playable in this one, and that he will fill the role of guide to the main characters, it is after Seven, so it's possible he will be forty or something this time.

8acfc4  No.16240575


I'm fairly certain he'll be playable. He'll likely just be upper 20s, which is still the latest we've ever seen him.

b17fda  No.16240594


>imblying Adol's 40s will stop him

He'll probably turn into Cassius Bright by Ys 12 or something. if we get that far, thanks NISA.

4c5d5a  No.16244340

I'd like a game about Hummel. It could be Falcom's intro into TPS or something.

8acfc4  No.16244516


Ys; Dirge of Cerberus

e1fb0c  No.16247704


Hummel's not even remotely as edgy as Vincent is though.

ec23b0  No.16247808


Going to be real disappointed in Adol if he's not still adventuring at 40.

e1fb0c  No.16249118

Man that ending hit hard. It's a shame they didn't give the rest of the castaways a "where are they now?" text crawl, but I bet later games will have one or two of them in a cameo.

Dana's final boss was amazing. The true ending's final boss, not so much. Ys8/10

You're telling me Adol didn't bone a single woman on the island? Bullshit.

The gallery had some really neat "Mural" images, does anyone have those in wallpaper quality?

dd0196  No.16249224

File: c4cdefcc08148eb⋯.jpg (79.23 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault(190).jpg)

I have been reading about Steam censorship and apparently they have a problem with games set in schools? Thats pretty much 90% of Japanese vidya output.

At least cute Rem is on GOG.

e1fb0c  No.16249320

File: ebf64e2652b29e7⋯.png (1.34 MB, 1016x630, 508:315, Swimsuit Ys8.png)

So I forgot I had the artbooks downloaded too. They have some cute images.

e1fb0c  No.16249478

File: 285dd8f65f41efb⋯.png (1.91 MB, 1276x705, 1276:705, WP1.png)

File: 792916f493d9278⋯.png (1.33 MB, 1278x714, 213:119, Wp2.png)

File: 2c7feb18b138765⋯.png (1.19 MB, 1278x708, 213:118, WP3.png)

File: d3c6fb064a11f3a⋯.png (1.94 MB, 1279x709, 1279:709, WP4.png)

Not exactly wallpaper quality but I hastily cropped a few of these in Paint because I couldn't find them in the files. Enjoy(?).

8acfc4  No.16249508

File: 4a1f1d1e4374ca9⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 6.84 MB, 2067x2923, 2067:2923, Dana.png)


>You're telling me Adol didn't bone a single woman on the island? Bullshit.

Adol's first and only love is Adventure. Any woman who has a chance of actually tying him down either dies or ascends to a higher plane of existence.

e1fb0c  No.16249544


But T. is an adventurer/explorer and he's clearly getting some, even if he isn't getting tied down.

c7c3ba  No.16249561



Where did you find it?

b31856  No.16249838


Irrelevant. Two people who do the same thing as a profession/hobby aren't going to lead the same lives.

746fe5  No.16249970


Dana is best grill

746fe5  No.16249977


>I have been reading about Steam censorship and apparently they have a problem with games set in schools?

Why? That's retarded.

8acfc4  No.16250669



That's easy. It gives them an easy excuse to target anime games, since that was always the goal. an SJW is in charge of content policing there and they hate anime and are trying to take it down any way they can.

1b617a  No.16250754

File: c98f6884c5d18c3⋯.png (2.1 MB, 2047x1135, 2047:1135, d1baefaf-2f4c-493a-bd73-8a….png)

File: 89b49488e18c450⋯.png (2.55 MB, 2045x1143, 2045:1143, 1be723af-70a1-4460-9f2d-cc….png)

File: 0682a0f2674ce18⋯.png (2.02 MB, 2045x1133, 2045:1133, 39796ef4-398b-40ef-82e1-00….png)

File: 615b15255c13b5d⋯.png (2.39 MB, 2042x1128, 1021:564, b11827e7-e3b9-4a40-adc4-9d….png)


These are beautiful.

49c578  No.16250868



>muh underage girls

Normalfags and SJWs suddenly got really invested in being concerned about age of consent in regard to anime characters. Steam takes it one step further and even bans games in college settings, only if they have anime-style artwork. They're either actively discriminating against anything with that art style, or the kind of retards that think all anime girls are lolis regardless of body type. Honestly eroge on steam was a dumb idea in the first place, devs need to realize it's a hostile platform for the medium and they need to stop pretending releasing on steam will make their game the next Nekopara.

75fb4b  No.16251828


This pretty much. How many Western games are set in schools?

SJWs really hate Japan and normalfags don't care.

ec23b0  No.16252260

The mechanics of just walking around on the field while enemies are around are so awful in TitS. I'd almost rather have random encounters. They should give you cloak and haze from the start of the games instead of toward the end.

ec23b0  No.16252268

Like, I legitimately don't know if I've seen a worse implementation of "you see enemies on field and walk into them to initiate combat". Especially annoying when I'm replaying on Nightmare and the enemies always get to attack 3 times before I can run.

8acfc4  No.16253031

File: a091f320d251304⋯.png (335.53 KB, 377x879, 377:879, LloydHarem2.png)

File: 2b91a45fb5fd04a⋯.jpg (474.61 KB, 953x869, 953:869, RixiaElieBoobs.jpg)

File: 552c7461616fc8f⋯.png (653.43 KB, 1046x480, 523:240, LloydHarem1.png)

9aaec1  No.16255289


Can't tell if intentionally thick or just playing it to get a harem.

c8c04b  No.16255351

Judging by Ys VIII the series is going in a bad direction. I'm not excited about Ys IX, I'm worried.

Ys fans want more action less rpg progression and story stuff.

I know dumbing down the series attracts more consumers, but it's a shame to sacrifice integrity for cash.

c8c04b  No.16255365


>SJWs are against murder and rape

>I guess I have to be pro-murder and pro-rape now!


pedo shit is gay and should be shamed and discriminated against.

b8d64b  No.16255367

File: 034f6c05c4e3ae5⋯.jpg (484.79 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190317032005_1.jpg)

Okay, why?

Why there is a grave for Dana (not any Dana at that, as "the displaced" doesn't even try to hide it) in the floating continent of Ys in a game that happens years before Ys VIII?

I would think of this as just a little cameo of no importance, but Falcom likes to drop this type of hint at things to come all the time, just like in the first Ys manual they talk about the 5 dragons of altago and Kefin the kingdom of sands.

Wouldn't even be surprised if we discover that Dana is a time hopping Eldeen or some shit.

c622e0  No.16255440

File: 9d1557e138348e6⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 27.46 KB, 311x362, 311:362, NOOOOOOOOOOOO.jpg)

Should I even bother playing cold steel 1 & 2 when nisa has the rights to 3 and possibly 4? Fuck man, how screwed is part 3 going to be

8acfc4  No.16255451

File: 89243a6525fb299⋯.jpg (84.88 KB, 621x619, 621:619, 50Mira.jpg)


I'll let you know when it comes out, I guess. I'll probably do for it what I did for TX. Though, ultimately, when I went through Ys 8 I didn't find lines that triggered my autism like I did with the TX ones further up the page. Granted, that was only post-patch. The little bit I saw of pre-patch was quite atrocious. I guess in the end it'll depend on how much Kris and Ryan were involved. They seem to be acting like they've been on the project for a long time, like long before it was announced they were, but I can't know anything until I see it. For now, it's not like Cold Steel 2 ends on a cliffhangar and it's not like there aren't plenty of unresolved plot points at the end of Sky and Crossbell too. So stopping there isn't really any better than stopping at CS2 if you really can't stomach where it goes from there.

c622e0  No.16255463


That's reassuring I guess. It just sucks knowing i'm getting in to something and the sequels might end up censored and "localized" to death.

8acfc4  No.16255479



This I doubt. Truth be told there's not really much to censor in the games.

>"localized" to death.

I can't vouch for this one as much. Post patch I can objectively say Ys VIII has a better, less memey and cringy script than Tokyo Xanadu. And, well, memes and cringe weren't really the problem with the original Ys 8 script either. It was just really, really poorly translated. Like bad 90s fansubs with load of unnatural dialogue and other things. Which isn't to say NISA hasn't memed it up before. I think the Nep and Dang It Grandpa games got hit with that, to my knowledge. All I can say is that wasn't a problem Ys VIII had. I can't know if CS3 will have it until I see it.

dae0d2  No.16255607

File: a48dee2fcc6df02⋯.png (40.01 KB, 810x450, 9:5, 1 dfvXx0k3TufQTgKXmKQKDA.png)

File: 0be680f9008ed57⋯.jpg (17.45 KB, 251x335, 251:335, meditation_orig.jpg)

Getting angry about Nisa is like getting angry over China. They are not going to disappear no matter how much you cry.

Stage 5 everyone.

6d51c5  No.16255706


Wow shit.


All that it needs is to get its footing back with the bosses and in that line of thought I think that Ys 8's Dana segments are truly the best gameplay segements in the game.

>Not bogged down by insane amounts of materials, grinding, etc.

>Side quests are relevant and to the point

>Lack of healing items(You can buy them but that's faggotry and not at all needed)

>No party system, meaning no three health bars at any given time, meaning bosses are intense and actually feel challenging considering they're made in a way where they don't one shot you but they're also not pushovers.

>Dana's styles change gameplay in a meaningful way, not only in the rock paper scissors damage system, but also completely different hitstrings, changing skills as well as interactions in the dungeon

It's pretty much pure gameplay for all of 20 or so minutes per floor and I loved it the most. Yes, the castaway village was nice. Yes, the characters being fleshed out was nice. Yes, the raids/hunts and fishing were nice touches, and so were the approval events. But at the same time there's no doubting that there's something off gameplay wise, especially considering the bosses.

I think the flash guard and flash move system should no longer be a thing. I think the dodge button should be a movement mechanic button with a special function to every character.

At the same time I think Ys 9 will turn out good. I do not really wish to fall into hype and blind "it's falcom so it's good", since I geniuenly disliked Memories of Celceta and Cold Steel 1 to the point of not finishing any of the games, as well as dropping the Legend of Heroes series for good. I also disliked Tokyo Xanadu quite a lot, and Gurumin felt mediocre in many ways. But, the leap from Celceta to Lacrimosa I felt was a massive one, and what little I read of an article gave me some semblance of hope that maybe Dana's forms are what is going to be the idea in mind for the party members in 9.

I guess all I could do is wait for gameplay footage and then play it when it's out. I do feel you when you say the Ys series doesn't feel particularly focused after Origins.


It makes me wonder if the romun officers who were mentioned in 8 are supposed to be the ones who throw him in jail.

5eb703  No.16255711


>They are not going to disappear

challenge accepted

516318  No.16255723

File: 32bcbd08767c969⋯.jpg (62.28 KB, 600x845, 120:169, 1471853535467.jpg)

>Caring about NISA doing Kiseki when CS4 exists

>Caring when 3/4 CS games are terrible

I'd rather care about Ys IX honestly

8a40ee  No.16256399


After my earlier posts about not really enjoying this story this is how i sort of feel. Fuck nisa and all, but i just feel like id play cs3/4 because im already this far invested in the series. Its not like nisa can fix some of the shit the game has going for it.

8acfc4  No.16256423


>Muh CS is bad meme

Please return to cuckchan where they give out cool boy points for saying that. No one does factionalization here.

2fb203  No.16258740



Is it ok to start with Ys with Oath and Ark or will I be lost plot-wise?

It sounds like they have a combat system like Seiken Densetsu's, which I really like.

1f1886  No.16258778


There isn't an over-arching plot. There's a chronological order and references but each game is pretty much self contained

2fb203  No.16258920



these run on Windows 10 without issue?

1f1886  No.16258933


No idea

c622e0  No.16259159


>stopping caring goy, just buy buy BUY

Not thanks, I'll just play 1 & 2 while waiting to see if 3 gets a pc port I can pirate. Haven't given nisa money in years and that's not about to change.

b8d64b  No.16259472


They run even on linux with steam play anon, though some people seems to have a problem where the game skips video cutscenes (like the logo and opening)

XSeed did a really fucking good job on the ports.

71b159  No.16259484


Nu/pol/ tryhards like yourself should be shamed and bullied back to reddit and kiketube where they belong.

215129  No.16261092

Is Ys VIII worth the 50 dollar price tag on PS4? I could get it for pc but I figure I’d like to own a physical copy if it’s good as I’m really enjoying Ys Origin.

4640fb  No.16261561


>I think that's every Cthulu reference in the script, though.

I'm pretty sure Cthulu was an option choice in one of the school questions as well.

4640fb  No.16261564


Pirate it on pc. Don't give NISA money.

8acfc4  No.16261570


It is. It was earlier in my gallery and I missed it. I took a several month long break from the game and most of the cancer is back-loaded.

215129  No.16261573


Id get it second hand of course.

215129  No.16261740


Also, what is considered the best port of the game? Looks like it’s on the switch as well

8acfc4  No.16261790


PS4 probably. It's the only one NISA didn't fuck up on a technical level. You can get PC to work pretty well but it still has performance issues. The Switch version is locked to 30 fps, which makes flash guards and dodges tougher.

215129  No.16261985


Cool, then PS4 it is.

Also, are any of the games as good as Origin? I’m going to have to take a break from it and go back to play 1 and 2 as I want to get them in the proper order the guide recommends, but after only fighting 2 of the bosses I’m pretty amazed with how great Origin is.

248d90  No.16262755


Felghana is kind of the only rival to Origins if I'm being honest, and Felghana doesn't have The Claw's gameplay anywhere so I do not really think so.

Ys 8's great but at the same time it's not really as good as the previous games in a gameplay prespective, mainly bosses because FUCKING FLASH GUARD AND FLASH MOVE.

516318  No.16263051

>Buying Ys 8

>Not pirating the game or buying a cheap second hand copy

fe3065  No.16263183


He's getting it second-hand.

acb9b1  No.16263364


Well shit, looks like I accidentally started with the best one.


Yep, looks like I may have found it for 40 bucks which isn’t to bad compared to its online prices.

7db15e  No.16263414


Opinions differ, but Ys VIII is still very highly regarded, try it for yourself.

248d90  No.16263431


Opinions can differ all they like, it's a fact that flash guard and flash move is a cancer that should be removed from the series.

545a7f  No.16264647

Is Ys 1&2 Chronicles+ a good game to start with?

Which game mode should i play Complete (2001) or Chronicles (2009)?

248d90  No.16264837


Yes. Play Chronicles since it basically is Complete, even allows you to use the latter's music and portraits.

It's bump combat, by the way. As in you bump into enemies off center/from the sides/from behind to deal damage to them. It seems odd at first but then you realize it makes grinding pretty natural and bosses are really nicely designed.

Two in Ys 1 are pretty bullshit, one is the final boss.

2fb203  No.16264946

Can I adjust framerateon Chronicles? The first boss's fire pillars are moving and respawning way to fast for this to be correct. Or is this the autism """difficulty""" I've read about?

248d90  No.16264955


That's the difficulty. Git gud or don't play Nightmare.

Or you could record and post it, you might be having a bug.

838f63  No.16265104


Cool, I was able to get it for 32 bucks though it’s the day 1 edition and it’s missing the art book and ost. Also, it says it includes an exclusive dungeon and Dana quests. Is that on disc and was the exclusive content later ported to other versions of the game?

517ada  No.16265140


It might be worth using the PC Engine music mod, the music in that game was top-tier

248d90  No.16265177


If it's on the PS4/PC, then that content should be on disk.

838f63  No.16265288


Sweet, thanks

7eca44  No.16265880

Weren't we supposed to get a stream of Ys9?

acb9b1  No.16266456

File: 9d4dcc277439256⋯.png (4.2 MB, 1403x1415, 1403:1415, ClipboardImage.png)

anyone have the GOG installer for Ys Seven?

d3c30a  No.16267759

Fuck this abandoned mine.

Is there something I can do to light the place up?

acb9b1  No.16268406

File: 090e84c59ae66b2⋯.jpeg (118.97 KB, 800x511, 800:511, C2748E7B-729F-420B-820A-A….jpeg)

Man, Ys 1 is comfy. The bump combat is a little bizarre but I’ll get used to it especially knowing how good the combat is going to get later in the series.

8acfc4  No.16268433


You'll find adventuring items that give you a light source.

248d90  No.16268535


>Abandoned mine


Don't give up on the boss. No one else is as bullshit until the final boss.

2fb203  No.16270450

File: 6ce41a3a6222c6a⋯.png (203.85 KB, 500x281, 500:281, ClipboardImage.png)


I have a light source, a dinky little light source. I was hoping there was a way to put up some torches or HM05 to just make it not dark.


He appears to take no damage, do I need to equip a certain item?

2fb203  No.16270597

>can't use healing potion in a boss fight


b8d64b  No.16271912

File: d82e018b4995b19⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 279.19 KB, 1500x938, 750:469, 4684168416846876.jpg)

Just finished Ys 2 and i'm kinda confused on the ending

Did Reah and Feena sublimated like Alma and just her statues remain taking care of the black pearl or they petrified themselves and can come back whenever they want?

b31856  No.16272813


petrified themselves and will wake hundreds of years later so the cycle will begin again

ade5e4  No.16273663

File: a4b1998a26396b5⋯.jpg (254.3 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Legend-of-Heroes-Zero-no-K….jpg)

The needs of the cunny outweigh the needs of the many. Give back our KeA!

1f1886  No.16273675


>having useable items in the first place

>not playing nightmare where items are automatically used upon picking up

Git gud faggot

8acfc4  No.16273699

File: 3176b12cc408bd8⋯.png (1.34 MB, 886x868, 443:434, KeaBrainDamage.png)

8acfc4  No.16283022

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

In about 3 hours and 15 minutes Dengeki Live is going to be on. There's going to be a 90 minute Falcom presentation where we'll see Ys 9 gameplay for the first time. In addition, Kondo also said he'll be talking about the "future of the Kiseki series." We already know that the Kiseki team has been split in two, with one half doing preliminary work on Calvard while the other is apparently working on some story DLC for CS4. So we might hear about that too.

201700  No.16283226


Falcom's making fighting games now? :^)

No seriously what is that game and why do they have a 5 year old on the commentary team?

Please not NISA, please not NISA, please not NISA, please not NISA.


8acfc4  No.16283242


Falcom won't be on for another hour.

201700  No.16283244


I know, I just don't think I'd seen that fitan before so I was confused. I thought DoA was supposed to have more T&A.

8acfc4  No.16283256


>I thought DoA was supposed to have more T&A.

DOA6 chased the SJW and esports money and lost their audience as well as still being scorned by the people they tried to appease. It was a disaster.

201700  No.16283334

Ys 9 gameplay started.

8acfc4  No.16283335


Well…there's never been movement like that in Ys before…

201700  No.16283341


I'm impressed, it'll make for some really neat dungeon designs.

Now what we need is combat that doesn't have fucking flash guard or move and we're golden.

The entire party is going to be furries ain't it

201700  No.16283347

Imagine how sick that scarf(? My stream's on like 240p) grappling hook would be if it were not contextual.

8acfc4  No.16283351


Honestly, I'm surprised we're getting what we are. I doubt Falcom could pull it off natively.

201700  No.16283355


It's not so much what we're getting as much as it's how we're getting it. This is all neat, no doubt about that, but if it's going to be the same design like Celceta or Seven, where these powers are used for one dungeon before being forgotten it's going to be quite annoying. Also I hope this doesn't run into the old musou problem of movement and combat feeling like two completely seperate paces.

Why are the showing Celceta and Dana PS4 versions? I thought they already existed, with those DLCs?

201700  No.16283384

I nodded off, was that it for Ys 9, those three videos?

It was okay I guess. For those of you who missed it

>Catgirl party members who can run up buildings(yes, buildings, the game seems very vertically oriented)

>Some guy with crow wings who can glide over things

>Adol's stupidly fast and has an either teleport or a grappling hook extendable thing that he can also use in combat

>Dodging was present so I assume Flash fuckIhatethismechanicsomuch is still on.

8acfc4  No.16283433

File: 5b00b3f6cd76395⋯.png (615.04 KB, 1297x782, 1297:782, RixiaThoma.png)

File: 9c2aa2e7e024cfa⋯.png (520.56 KB, 943x788, 943:788, ScarletWald.png)

The Ys stuff was some very short clips that showed off movement and a tiny bit of combat and that's it. Adol is 24 in this game. The Kiseki stuff was just going over polls, Kondo answering some innocuous questions and basically an announcement for an announcement in June for the 15th anniversary of Kiseki. He did pull out some character art for Rixia, Thoma, Scarlet and (presumably) Wald, though, indicating whatever CS4 DLC they're thinking about doing will probably involve those characters in some way.

a4b82d  No.16283437


Plot twist: it's actually Ries with an eye patch and the shadow is Kevin.

ec23b0  No.16284240

Falcom really should've stuck to small environments if they're not going to update their engine. The city looks so empty and lifeless.

8acfc4  No.16284255


I'm willing to bet it will have more NPCs later. There wasn't a hud either. It seems like a really early preview.

201700  No.16284258


I'd like to say it's placeholder but it sure as shit isn't. The only other reasonable explanation is that they might be going the castaway village route and have NPCs gradually fill up the village.

8acfc4  No.16284292


Well supposedly it's a prison city so there might not be many people. Also you;re supposedly building a guild so you might not be too off-base.

f546a9  No.16287112

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

YS 9 demo

what is this gay shit? The town looks too big and empty. the movement is too weird.

da0ccc  No.16287146

File: 3fbaad1d44d8dae⋯.jpg (119.12 KB, 600x600, 1:1, nigger master 1200.jpg)


>The town looks big

That's good.

>and empty.

That's not good, however it looks like a test build, so I'm not too worried yet.

>movement is too weird.

But having that kind of freedom of movement is fucking rad if there's good vertical level design and fighting mechanics to go with it. I'm curious to see how it turns out and how NISA fucks up the western release.

516318  No.16287253



>game in development


201700  No.16287256


>force edge is still one of Adol's skills

For fucks sake, vertical large blade isn't a cool or fun ability even if you color it red and black.

383030  No.16287272


>he town looks too big and empty.

anon is a gameplay test demo. why would they add NPCs if they are testing the game mechanics?


>adol ninja teleportation


2fb203  No.16289936


The number of people needed to make the city feel alive would greatly exceed the number I want to talk to and would make it very difficult to find any one person if they move around.

8acfc4  No.16289987

File: 7bb159fc53c9b38⋯.jpg (161.04 KB, 750x1000, 3:4, Ys9.jpg)


Keep in mind this city is not a normal city. It's literally supposed to be a place they threw a bunch of prisoners. It's not going to have the population of a regular city.

2fb203  No.16290007


I don't see what that has to do with my point. Population makes the city seem lively and interesting, but there is so much space to fill you could fill a couple VNs with all their dialog/begging Adol to unfuck their shit up.

a4b82d  No.16291080


>Kondo also shared that in addition to plans for future numbered titles in the series there are also plans to explore certain side-stories, “What has become of this/that?” scenarios, and it has been previously revealed that the Trails team has been split into two groups, one working on a main series title and the other the side-stories.

More spin-offs.

21d8e0  No.16291198






DIRGE OF fuck who's a decent edgy gunman in the trails games






055626  No.16291259

File: 8ab87c9b149856e⋯.jpg (63.43 KB, 850x565, 170:113, fatman.jpg)


>World class architecture in a video games prison

>One of my real life schools was designed by a prison architect which looked and operated like a prison

Escapism only makes the real world hurt more

343e92  No.16291348

File: d861a035342b6e7⋯.jpeg (488.23 KB, 839x642, 839:642, 2012-02-19-476972.jpeg)

We were lolis and shit. LOLIS

3d2334  No.16291541


>The number of people needed to make the city feel alive would greatly exceed the number I want to talk to

Is that not what jrpgs are all about?

8acfc4  No.16291895

File: eea748f4dd1c41d⋯.jpg (256.42 KB, 1293x877, 1293:877, 3rd.jpg)


This isn't a shock, The other team is working on CS4 DLC and most people have predicted it will be a 3rd type deal.

2fb203  No.16292104


one big city is much less interesting than a bunch of small towns

21d8e0  No.16292374


Castaway Village was pretty nice.

But at the same time Castaway Village was pretty small and cosy.

Wait, considering this is a prison town, does this mean the raid missions will be Adol and Co. fending themselves from niggers looking for man ass?

928e04  No.16293184

File: 47a597e20ba6bc3⋯.jpg (5.79 MB, 3481x2843, 3481:2843, The_Ruins_of_Holyrood_Chap….jpg)

I enjoyed jumping around the place with Dana but had felt that something was a little off, unrefined, or that maybe the controls were poor because of NisAs lazy port; but they were actually looking forward to further develop new mechanics for IX. I hope it's not an annoying gimmick or took the focus off of developing Ys core gameplay mechanics and narrative.


What a fucking useless article.


Imagine if it were a penal colony set on an island like those built by the French in Guiana.

2fb203  No.16293250



8acfc4  No.16295699

File: 3af96e62fe61d62⋯.jpg (309.09 KB, 1174x996, 587:498, Ys9Dengeki1.jpg)

File: 9260ebf3fcb6b32⋯.jpg (266.46 KB, 1202x832, 601:416, Ys9Dengeki2.jpg)

There was a dengeki article and we finally got some character art. Is it just me or do the female characters seem way more…modest this time?

36992a  No.16296272


Ys is an ARPG.

a8caa6  No.16296974


>combat is braindead easy as fuck, use any AT Delay craft combined with the Orbment system simplified for retards and you win

>animations are robotic and god-awful

>major step down from the world-building and plot seen in previous games, with very noticeable asspulls

>everyone's "merely holding back" all the damn time

>actually good characterisation replaced Persona-lite character links, polluting the fandom with harem wars and shipperfags

>Mr. Mean Rean "Gary Stu" Machine himself

a8caa6  No.16297062

File: d15a332578e1f4b⋯.jpeg (102.69 KB, 1024x673, 1024:673, CGF.jpeg)

Is this pic real? Who is this character?

8acfc4  No.16297129

File: b02bd2bf8b0651e⋯.jpg (44.42 KB, 302x564, 151:282, JunaErebonians.jpg)

File: 1f6f104693c8096⋯.png (227.89 KB, 800x1095, 160:219, JunaCS4.png)


>combat is braindead easy as fuck

Like every Trails game

>use any AT Delay craft combined with the Orbment system simplified for retards and you win

Let me take you back one game where the answer to every encounter was "spam spark dyne"

>major step down from the world-building and plot seen in previous games, with very noticeable asspulls

Highly debatable. Name me anything you consider an "asspull" and I'll bet I kind find one just as strong in Crossbell

>animations are robotic and god-awful

Welcome to all AA weeb games. The Tales series with well over double the budget and quadruple the staff can't manage much better.

>everyone's "merely holding back" all the damn time

"Holding back" is a Trails meme as old as Sky.

>actually good characterisation replaced Persona-lite character links, polluting the fandom with harem wars and shipperfags

Absolutely nothing critical is revealed in bonding events. The only reason Sky wasn't a harem game was because Estelle was the protagonist instead of the planned Joshua. Crossbell is full on harem complete with choosing your waifu and a beach episode. Critical backstory details for Rixia, Randy and Wazy are locked behind final bonding events, something even CS doesn't do.

>Mr. Mean Rean "Gary Stu" Machine himself

Rean is a consummate failure who hates himself. For all his supposed "power" all it does is hurt him and everyone close to him. Lloyd, conversely is actually a Gary Stu. Perfect in every way, everyone loves him, he finishes every game victorious and is excellently skilled from the start of his game. How big of a Gary Stu is Lloyd? When he and Rean meet Rean's reaction is "God I wish that were me." Rean is nowhere near as good as Estelle and Kevin, but he actually does have an arc, something that is in no way true for Lloyd.


That's Juna from CS3 and 4 and that's a DLC outfit.

a8caa6  No.16297327


Whoa that outfit is overtly sexual, not that I'm complaining, but I've played TitS 1,2,3, currently on ToCS1, and this isn't very characteristic of the franchise.

8acfc4  No.16297554

File: 57f8306fc756fbc⋯.jpg (153.33 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, JunaCS4Bikini.jpg)

File: 7b7242233203af6⋯.jpg (90.69 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, LauraBikini2.jpg)

File: bec8503e6b298c5⋯.jpg (561.31 KB, 1280x655, 256:131, MusseAss.jpg)

File: 53af47570adae9b⋯.jpg (119.2 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, SaraNinja.jpg)

File: a346da51c05092a⋯.webm (12.96 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, EmmaASStral.webm)


CS3 and 4 are pretty lewd overall.

928e04  No.16297706


Do we get to play the sister with the horns!?

a8caa6  No.16297725


What do you think of this? Pandering? Or have times changed?

8acfc4  No.16297766

File: be767a10633c254⋯.png (1.45 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, Sunbathing.png)


I'd be shocked if those weren't all party members.


Given the beach scene in Ao they were probably always gonna go this way. The graphics just allow for it now.

928e04  No.16298157


I think those that see the Cold Steel games as a step down in the world-building or try to divide the Trails series generally into an old good, new bad perspective are limited by their own preconceived ideas that prevent them from making an objective evaluation of the games. They may feel a personal aversion to the student setting in Cold Steel which they then try to rationalize by pointing to other changed aspects; but I only base this idea off of posts like yours and I remember it being purported in a previous thread that this useless discussion was more of an issue for faggots elsewhere because the narrative categorization is obviously in which part of Zemuria the games take place, what new characters you play as, and how their local position (as bracer, detective, or student) impacts story progression to further develop the world building.

Anyway, it's because we'll be seeing all of our favorite characters that have grown beyond their original roles together in the latest Cold Steel that has me very excited.


The potatoes were delicious.

605ce2  No.16298598

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


It is so dubsman, probably due to it being a Roman-knockoff prison in what appears to be Bordeaux.

The real question is what will Adol's Devil Trigger will be

7a2cc6  No.16298660

File: f096085ab9bb5c0⋯.png (836.88 KB, 894x713, 894:713, saya.PNG)


But will nisa allow this to the western audience?

a8caa6  No.16298702


Fucking hell, Nisa got the game just as the games started getting lewder.

acb9b1  No.16299008


Is it still on track for its 2019 release?

8acfc4  No.16299223



NISA actually made a comment about this saying they didn't expect the game would run afoul of Sony's new policies.


Falcom is usually pretty solid in their dates.

a8caa6  No.16299741


>NISA actually made a comment about this saying they didn't expect the game would run afoul of Sony's new policies.

You mean the game was unexpectedly lewd, or they knew it would be fine?

8acfc4  No.16300394


>they knew it would be fine

This one. To be fair most of CS's lewdness comes from DLC costumes (which don't really fall under the traditional umbrella) and stuff you aren't technically supposed to see, but is still there if you know how to find it, like the panties.

acb9b1  No.16301032

File: 281986d42e929f7⋯.png (358.26 KB, 333x500, 333:500, ClipboardImage.png)

found a copy of Legacy of Ys today for 13 bucks and decided to pick it up. Is it a decent version of the first two games?

49dd8a  No.16301987


lewd but the art and models look like really cheap, generic trash

a8caa6  No.16304317


I'm on ToCS 1, I can't stop thinking about Emma now, holy fuck. I like the expanse of the world and characters as they change in this game.

8acfc4  No.16304620

File: ba238edb288a834⋯.jpg (97.22 KB, 600x1200, 1:2, Ys9Cat.jpg)






We're hitting the body limit lately, so I had to trim some things.

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