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d93100  No.16236155

Backers will not receive steam or GoG keys for a year either.

3f92e2  No.16236161

I love seeing the market implode in on itself like this. Digital competition is so fake it's hilarious.


4395bd  No.16236166

It's going to be shit anyway. None of these vidya has-beens have been able to bring the old magic back.


441324  No.16236170

>>16236155

Fucking dumbasses


eb11c3  No.16236175

File: 11f1d6888018e47⋯.jpg (43.78 KB, 291x280, 291:280, LooksLikeIMadeAMistake.jpg)

And things seemed to be going so well, too.

Thank god I held back from funding it.


bfbc23  No.16236178

File: 3d2da41b1e7c4df⋯.jpeg (67.39 KB, 700x700, 1:1, C08F00F9-4A9E-44DC-B97E-5….jpeg)

Who cares? Steam gets shitted on and I was gonna pirate it anyway. Steam shitters get assblasted and kikes get less shekels. It’s a win win.


5db4cc  No.16236180

I would not be surprised in the slightest if the shekels they got from Epic are more than what they'll lose from refunds.


0ffc51  No.16236184

>make timed exclusives with some nigger store no one uses

>be shocked later when you sell 100 copies total worldwide

As shit as Steam is, it's still the largest market and to ignore it is to ignore profits


468138  No.16236193

File: 733fdd4828a10b4⋯.mp4 (2.93 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Phoenix Point Epic Games S….mp4)

File: bd333d218e400d7⋯.png (815.21 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, __original_drawn_by_karaku….png)

>OP is a double nigger faggot AGAIN


a2fe8b  No.16236222

>Get more profit from purchases.

>But get less costumers to purchase it.

Seems like a sound strategy if they are being bribed with a contract beforehand. More a loss on their customers if the gamble doesn't work out but more money for the developers, at least short term. PC online store exclusivity is very stupid. The only way I'd accept game exclusivity on a online storefront is if they specifically paid for the development of the game. Unless someone can name one, I don't remember any game with a 1 year timed exclusive deal that has ever benefited on the console it was released on first. Most people aren't going to buy or purchase a console for just 1 game, and they certainly won't for a different store front unless they are certain that they can't get that game on their preferred online store. If it will come out a year later, most people can wait the year, unless they have the disease of the fear of missing out.


6c880d  No.16236245

File: 119e2336f072ad5⋯.jpg (13.44 KB, 225x225, 1:1, Smug Crook.jpg)

Well for your sake I hope Tencent paid enough to not only cover development, but also the refunds of everyone you stabbed in the back Gallop.


468138  No.16236251

>>16236245

they have the chink government backing them, have to get all burger personal info.


2bf6c8  No.16236318

>>16236178

You do know that Epic is owned by China, right? Their plan is to turn PC gaming into the equivalent of a console war. Everybody will lose, starting with the consumers.


97e3e9  No.16236395

File: ec2c8afe47d0ff5⋯.png (262.49 KB, 720x392, 90:49, Deathmatch Handicap Settin….png)

>>16236178

They also advertised GOG keys which are now out of the question. DRM Free no more.


85833c  No.16236437

Why does the guy talking look like Colin Mochrie with AIDS?


aa1beb  No.16236444

>>16236193

That was a nice image set.


000000  No.16236453

>>16236155

Buyfags BTFO.

Pirate everything.


b3232d  No.16236480

File: 57c1731fa2c8987⋯.png (6.2 KB, 454x111, 454:111, nigger.png)

File: 1b30dab15eac746⋯.jpg (122.03 KB, 430x788, 215:394, delicious.jpg)


9528dd  No.16236508

>video unlisted

that was quick


d93100  No.16236540

>>16236508

It was a private video made for their reddit (I think). A friend linked it to me who was also excited for it.

Glad I didn't back it, I was planning on buying it on release but now I'll just pirate it. Denuvo announcement when?


1bfd39  No.16236556

>Pre-pay and wait a long ass time to get a key for the product you purchased well ahead of time to support the devs and a project you believe in

>get stabbed in the back, given the reach-around, betrayed, spit on your face and maybe even more! imagine all at the same time

LM,AO


9dcfe5  No.16236594

The worst thing about all of this is that instead of competing on features and price and what else, they decide that its better to compete on something that wasn't a problem before in the PC gaming space and which they completely created themselves: exclusive games.

Friendly reminder that if you support epic games in any way, they are the ones that stopped developing UT4 and they are china owned, so double fuck them. You shouldn't even think about using unreal engine for any projects.


083e1f  No.16236674

File: 6cd8c43ef63a2e8⋯.gif (1.24 MB, 400x533, 400:533, 1496120840285.gif)

>>16236453

>people fuming on discord, leddit and twitter

This is just too fun to watch. How much of a greedy stupid jew do you have to be to still go on with it after the metro shitshow? My god.


544765  No.16236686

Oh good, gives me even more reason to pirate and save some money.


5cefd1  No.16236697

>>16236178

You do know that people should care about these shitty business practices, right? Even if they are dumbasses who kickstarted it, they should still get the game as soon as it is ready. This sets a really shitty precedent.


544765  No.16236706

>>16236178

I can't tell if posts like this are bait or not.

>Shit on Steam for removing certain games from the store

>Games that aren't even allowed on the other major stores and never will be.


0a1d32  No.16236723

>buying games

FYI, epic store games get cracked faster than Denuvo


0a1d32  No.16236731

Lot's of devs that go with Epin Gays explain that they get a bigger cut. Well, that's great for them but shitty for us, our data is getting sold to the fucking chinese, that's why they can give them a bigger cut. I'm not gonna defend Steam, but at least it has more features and of course doesn't sell you out to the bugmen.


81ed64  No.16236742

>>16236731

isn't the real reason because epic games is backed by tencent so they can afford to give away money to people to make their games store exclusive for a long ass time


544765  No.16236743

>>16236742

In other words because they sell our data to chinks.


0a1d32  No.16236748

>>16236742

Yes they get paid a lot for exclusivity, take a look at Satisfactory, they paid them enough to run the studio for a long time.


0a1d32  No.16236752

>>16236748

Also I forgot to add, the game was advertised on Steam for a long ass time, to gather interest and then they removed it. Thanks for free publicity, fucking sellouts.


5a2789  No.16236757

>>16236222

If they're smart they just pirate it and then it's a lose lose for the dev because now that customer has even less incentive to buy it. It really is a short sighted idiotic move.

>>16236731

It's short sighted and greedy. Steam for all its faults is convenient and generally locking people out for a whole year for their preferred platform is going to rub people the wrong way. I hope every dev that took the short term money end up to rue their decision and people choose to pirate this shit instead.


1e5c68  No.16236780

>>16236731

>they get a bigger cut

From smaller sales than steam.


864399  No.16236783

>>16236731

>our data is getting sold to the chinese

all you have to do is not buy their and not use their shitty services and this point is moot. if you're a buyfag in current year youre just fucking retarded


3264b8  No.16236806

>>16236155

As somebody who funded it.

I am getting access to alphas and betas, so I am not sure if it is going to affect me all that much. I will probably get access to the latest betas all the way till the release date.


2f9ba3  No.16236892

I love how Epic's business model is to anger and piss off every potential customer that exists. They somehow do not realize that a 90/10 split means shit if you only sell 5% of your potential customers. People playing fortnite are not potential customers they are children who cannot pay for video games.


1e5c68  No.16236904

>>16236892

>they are children who cannot pay

on top of that

How can someone be so retarded to think that just because there's more fortnite players than steam users, that fortnite players will buy your game because it uses the same client?


acdda3  No.16236926

>>16236318

>Epic is owned by China, right

Majority shares of Epic Games are owned by Tim Sweeney, not Tencent. I think the share split was 60/40.


2f9ba3  No.16236935

>>16236742

Yeah but they are also owned by Tencent and are based around "social marketing". Tencent have control of your data from Epic thinking otherwise is foolish. They also recently went on record to say that their store is the perfect place for customers and needs no new features. The Epic game store will be a joke the only positive they have is what developers think of them and nobody who plays fortnite cares about developers. Then every developer that goes to them immediately destroys the entirety of their goodwill. 4A's is destroyed and they didn't even make the decision.


85833c  No.16236951

Notice how everyone in this thread defending or making excuses for Epic types like English is their second language at most.


c6510e  No.16236965

>>16236926

>Tim Sweeney

Aside from him being a kike which expectedly would help chinks, Tencent has major influence over Epic Games due to this 40% shares ownership.


346eec  No.16236992

What a fucking faggot.

>Ebin Store exglusive :DDD Refund if you don't like :DDDD

He only got the funds to make the fucking game in the first place thanks to the backers, only to throw them under the bus.


c6510e  No.16236999

>>16236992

Typical for kikestarter anyway. Funny that no one learned anything from all those shitshows.


92a239  No.16237018

>>16236480

>>16236508

They just realized how badly they fucked up. Oh well can't back out now can they?


2f9ba3  No.16237033

>>16237018

Not if they already took/spent the money


2f9ba3  No.16237062

>>16236508

Sure it wasn't unlisted from the start and only intended for backers?


0fa847  No.16237063

>>16236245

they did

the deal they got from Epic was just bundle of cash, "minimum sales" thing where even if PP doesn't sell a single copy they'll still get paid up to X amount

supposedly it's enough to keep their company running for a few years


0fa847  No.16237067

>>16236992

even worse, it had actual investors from Fig who probably only invested with the idea that the game was going to be sold on steam/gog and reach enough of the market that way


346eec  No.16237072

>>16237063

They're pretty much banking on the fact Epic is trying to barge into the market. Pay a dev far more than he's worth not in the hopes of making profit from him, but in the hopes of drawing customer base away from the competition.


2f9ba3  No.16237075

>>16237063

What happened to making more of the game when it sells well so you know you have a market for it? What if everyone hates the game? I don't think it would be wise to invest a bunch of money into DLC for it.


735abc  No.16237087

>>16236992

Call it an interest-free loan.


0fa847  No.16237100

>>16237075

see >>16237072

Epic is trying to buy their way into market share/customer base, it's probably gonna backfire massively. The PR backlash alone is going to put Epic's store into the grave.

It's hilariously incompetent

Devs who take the deal are chasing the money and burning all their bridges at the same time.


346eec  No.16237103

>>16237087

Fuck, anon, that's literally what I've been thinking. Not only is it interest-free, but the lender is the one who takes ALL of the risk.


b3c17e  No.16237109

File: 424895bdf36655b⋯.gif (269.2 KB, 200x150, 4:3, 1439935448001.gif)

>>16236155

>The only way digital marketplaces can even think to compete is by making even more walled gardens

Please god let this lead to another crash


85833c  No.16237125

File: 90b338eb09f10bf⋯.png (1.63 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, endless trash.png)

>>16237100

Even without the backlash the store is killing itself well enough. Seriously just look at this screenshot and tell me in one single concise phrase what the fuck kind of layout this is.


dd5de1  No.16237131

>friends keep rubbing the game in my face

>telling me that I like UFO Defense so I would love this

>they back it

>constantly tell me that I'm being a downer and how good it will be

>they sell it to Epic because they don't have money to make it after crowdfunding

Funny, I never looked at the game. I just knew that Gollop was a washed-up hack whose best successes, like UFO Defense, were complete accidents caused by random producers throwing demands at him. I didn't expect a game made by someone who was retweeting a certain bluehair from 2014 to be any good to begin with.


2f9ba3  No.16237142

>>16237100

Naw paid exclusivity always works. Xbone was built around it at first, look at how amazing it is doing. SFV took a bunch of money to stay PS4/PC only and that game sold gangbusters as well.


b3c17e  No.16237152

>>16237142

>Look how amazing it's doing.

Most of it's exclusives were later released on PC (an obvious indicator of poor performance).


b22d5d  No.16237158

File: d82c4d370c3706a⋯.mp4 (550 KB, 480x480, 1:1, fdfggdgdgdg.mp4)

what the fuck are they doing !

i was following this shit too


85833c  No.16237160

>>16237109

About a year ago or so when every other company was trying to make their own netflix there was a slue of articles about how piracy was going up because people just said fuck it to having to manage like 10 different online accounts.


97cea6  No.16237164

>>16236155

Literally who?


2bf6c8  No.16237167

File: 458396206702978⋯.jpg (134 KB, 504x644, 18:23, 1450810587729-0.jpg)

>>16237067

>it had actual investors from Fig


b22d5d  No.16237169

>>16237164

xcom spiritual successor


16191b  No.16237170

File: e992e5b26df4748⋯.jpg (139.57 KB, 698x536, 349:268, fuck my life.jpg)

>Coming soon to a PC near you Epic vs Steam wars

>PC owners can now experience the joys of a Console War type experience but now with 120fps and 4k shitposts.

Yeah this is one console to PC port I could do without.


d93100  No.16237177

>>16237109

What would an ideal digital distribution platform look like?

I imagine something like this

>GoG style simple DRM free executable downloads

>Optional "library" client that can scan for games and automatically add them as well as manually add any executable

>Library client can be used as above with no internet connection, optional log in to service to automatically update games (game updates can also be downloaded in the same way game executables can be from the site) which can be enabled or disabled on a per game basis


97cea6  No.16237182

>>16237167

How did anyone expect anything good from a dev cozying up to Mr Shitface? Are you guys retarded?


2f9ba3  No.16237185

>>16237109

>>16237170

If it keeps going it will lead to another PC crash similar to the early steam days. PC has piracy as a competitor and every time a game goes "exclusive" it is met with universal backlash. Division 2 started to give away free games with every pre-order a few weeks ago.


163659  No.16237264

>>16237125

Your tab memes did not go unappreciated, anon.


bfbc23  No.16237278

File: fc910bf2a82212f⋯.gif (1.3 MB, 400x360, 10:9, F1276C89-90FD-48AC-B6BE-2C….gif)

>>16236697

>Selling on steam itself is not a shitty practice

>>16236706

I can’t tell if you read my post or are clinically retarded.

Steamfags btfo.


b58dde  No.16237287

>>16236193

I can't find the image set even with the filename, sauce?


2f9ba3  No.16237337

>>16237278

Selling your game on every platform that is willing to sell it is the only not-shitty practice.


15c57f  No.16237375

>>16237287

You can say "md5:1a2b3c4d" to a booru.


87cceb  No.16237577

File: 7d86093373c2267⋯.png (80.04 KB, 828x522, 46:29, screencap from a neato lil….png)

>>16237087

So it's a literal investment scam. This is the first Kickstarter I've heard of that's a literal investment scam.

But it's not only an interest-free loan that they've suddenly turned it into: It's an index-linked loan as well, as in one that's made to be immune to inflation, since the people who are being made to get refunds are also being made to accept refund fees to compensate the company for any currency inflation that's taken place between the crowdfunding campaign and the time of the refund.


87cceb  No.16237629

File: 8fb4773842b199f⋯.png (17.97 KB, 777x97, 777:97, screencap1.png)

File: 35fe289539b33cf⋯.png (10.91 KB, 465x62, 15:2, screencap2.png)

File: 9e39337cc9e1cf7⋯.png (19.86 KB, 771x80, 771:80, screencap3.png)

File: b13af113f1aeb84⋯.png (24.49 KB, 811x124, 811:124, screencap4.png)

File: c1182264d7d5226⋯.png (53.08 KB, 442x450, 221:225, screencap5.png)

Here's a little something from the official Discord.


38b867  No.16237653

File: d4260b8280edec9⋯.jpg (12.26 KB, 151x192, 151:192, 1345966340235.jpg)

>please give us money! Publishers won't fund our game!

>piss on all of your fans because a publisher gave you all this money


2f9ba3  No.16237654

>>16237629

So the mod and one of the devs are against the decision to go to Epic?


468138  No.16237655

File: cfbf436cb80d315⋯.jpg (50.36 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 1443052118586.jpg)

>>16237577

kickstarter is a great way to show publishers the product actually has worth, so once they got the deal, they just can refund all the good goys.


97cea6  No.16237660

>>16237629

>won't somebody think of the poor devs!


87cceb  No.16237662

>>16237654

It's a moderator warning a shill and then one of the game's developers coming in to express some support for the shilling of the shill. It's really rather petty for me to make a post out of it, but it's something.


468138  No.16237667

File: 7624f839af123af⋯.gif (2.94 MB, 359x346, 359:346, JEW.gif)


87cceb  No.16237678

I posted a screencap from the Discord that made a person who was actually against this look like another shill because of something he said appearing at the wrong time, so I've just deleted that screencap now.


d93100  No.16237687

>>16237678

Instead of deleting shit just explain how you fucked up retard


068c9c  No.16237693

>>16236155

And everyone who pre-ordered got fucked, those Chinks are sneaky, they already got confirmation that their 90/10 deal is hurting GOG since their little press release about laying off some employees after fucking around with Gwent and not updating their GOOD OLD GAMES catalog, it's gonna be interesting that's for sure, Valve and GOG better do some planning.


468138  No.16237698

>>16237693

>valve

>planning

to big to care, but gog is in trouble, if they are depending on newer releases which is fucking retarded, they should have released most of the pornographic japanese vns when they had the change, but they let that ship sail a long time ago.


87cceb  No.16237701

File: 618cfded484b0fb⋯.png (26.05 KB, 807x120, 269:40, screencap7.png)

File: 9dc27ca51d4f22b⋯.jpg (160 KB, 612x792, 17:22, 9dc27ca51d4f22b789126898cb….jpg)

>>16237687

It was revealing a person's details when there was no call for them to be revealed. I wouldn't want a person who isn't actually one of the shills getting included in a video laughing at the shills.

Here's this, though.


b58dde  No.16237715

File: e1f7b96b48f27a9⋯.jpg (36.94 KB, 557x387, 557:387, thank.jpg)

>>16237375

Thanks anon


dcebaf  No.16237722

File: 6239ee259e53b5a⋯.png (130.89 KB, 717x390, 239:130, AnonsDeletedImage.png)

>>16237701

Don't be a faggot.


97cea6  No.16237730

File: 57f878ce5680a25⋯.jpg (28.33 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 1385760226096.jpg)

>>16237722

>saving a thumbnail


d93100  No.16237732

File: 9a85153e0c8a482⋯.png (34.99 KB, 583x315, 583:315, niggers.png)

>>16237722

>>16237730

Here's the image

Still don't quite understand the issue


97cea6  No.16237735

>>16237732

Hanekem was probably responding to a different post of RogueVector I guess.


bf629c  No.16237744

File: bda8405f96c82d6⋯.jpg (117.66 KB, 668x613, 668:613, bda8405f96c82d673765f92590….jpg)

I remember there were anons who said developers would never go exclusive to any store, even for a limited time.

Those anons were so fucking wrong. How many devs is this so far?


d93100  No.16237752

>>16237735

Or possibly he was saying that the developer's actions aren't acceptable


2673ce  No.16237762

>>16237744

Everyone.


3b639e  No.16237763

File: 6017b5beeca0233⋯.jpg (44.72 KB, 768x432, 16:9, who-was-the-tank-man-of-ti….jpg)

Once again I have to remind everyone in these threads that this Epic nonsense is not just "lel lmfoa steam BTFO", it's artificial competition by way of foreign money power from a hostile market. Epic is using Chinese money power to essentially bribe publishers and restrict your options as a consumer, while offering an inferior service to all its competitors and likely selling your data to the Chinese government too. It's corrupt chink business practice brought to life in front of our eyes in the western market, and it should not be tolerated.

The correct answer is piracy always, but those seeking to buy a game should have as many options as possible. Anyone who defends this bullshit every time Epic pulls it is either a sub-80 IQ retard who doesn't really understand what's happening, or a chink shill running damage control for his glorious eastern hegemony and its third world tier market corruption.


97cea6  No.16237767

>>16237744

Whoever said that is a retard. Exclusives have been a thing for decades.


2e7621  No.16237771

File: 1a835bb65a5e2b6⋯.jpg (78.09 KB, 768x960, 4:5, Wot.jpg)


978b25  No.16237809

>>16237732

>I want PP on steam

heh

>>16237763

Once they have enough dumb normalfags with accounts on their store, they'll increase the developer revenue fees. They're probably losing more money than making money to establish this new storefront.


b1116b  No.16237811

File: 91303506a0c35a4⋯.png (11.22 KB, 636x108, 53:9, pp1.png)

File: 094344efd652c51⋯.png (19.38 KB, 243x519, 81:173, pp2.png)

Get in their discord, they get super butthurt when you say that you're going to pirate it.

https://discord.gg/eNh9RJ8


1cce87  No.16237814

File: b011548f1823b68⋯.jpg (85.34 KB, 550x733, 550:733, Question Marquis.jpg)

Literally what the fuck is the "Epic Store"?


978b25  No.16237817

File: a753a511e0d413f⋯.webm (5.37 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, why discord is trash.webm)

File: 241ef855ac095f3⋯.jpg (41.69 KB, 421x421, 1:1, no longer smug.jpg)

>>16237811

>Get in their discord

If you're using discord you might as well use the epic store, since tencent funds both.

>>16237814

Epic games made a storefront and offered lower fees than any other store, and is actively targeting games for exclusivity or timed exclusivity in return for extra development money. A lot of anons speculate that this money comes from tencent, but I'd wager a lot of it comes from fortnite.


b1116b  No.16237822

File: 6d1781f139652f6⋯.png (39.15 KB, 1352x150, 676:75, discord2.png)

File: 18715126b432072⋯.png (78.05 KB, 982x273, 982:273, discord1.png)

>>16237817

You're aware that discord has a browser app, right? That massively limits the amount of information that they can (and do, with the desktop application) steal.


876d4d  No.16237837

>>16236904

They have to be extremely out of touch to think normalniggers even know their fortnite account is connected to some store.


083e1f  No.16237846

>>16237763

>The correct answer is piracy always

Yeah, then no games are made anymore, genius.


3b639e  No.16237868

>>16237846

Attempted thread derailment.


1cce87  No.16237881

>>16237817

Huh. I appreciate the informative reply. I basically live under a rock as far as the video games industry is concerned.

Sounds the the future is full of butthurt. This is almost exciting to hear, except fucking china is involved.


468138  No.16237940

>>16237744

> How many devs is this so far?

i remember rogue galaxy outcast.


3ccd94  No.16238161

>Another game I had my eyes on that I can pirate no strings attached

Thanks Gollop!


6fec7b  No.16238226

As much as I hate steam, I hate Epic for ruining UT and creating fortnite and a load of other garbage games. Epic can burn in hell and doesn't deserve anyone's money.


a32974  No.16238408

>>16237846

One can only hope.


694e01  No.16238431

File: d6d8989c082c973⋯.jpg (149.77 KB, 775x600, 31:24, diana.jpg)

>>16236155

I was actually excited for this game until this was brought up. What's next? They're just going to cancel releasing on GoG and add Denuvo?


b3bd49  No.16238467

>yt comments, twitter comments, even their own little subreddit eating them alive

>comments about pirating it getting yuge upboats when normalfags typically respond to piracy as if it's a violent mugging

The backers for this project must be slightly above your average normalnigger, the usual chattel would never show so much spine.


76d70f  No.16238475

>>16237698

>but they let that ship sail a long time ago

They wouldn't do that even now, not even if they were in agony. They would rather get bigger portion of indie hipster shit since this seems to be what their "principles" are.

>>16237744

>Those anons were so fucking wrong

They probably didn't expect chinks with shitton of money to appear on the market. Tencent must be paying a very great portion of money if those companies are so willing to take such huge risks and they hate to take any kind of risks. I wonder how much it takes, do they cover budgets of those games or promises to compensate all the losses too?

>>16237814

A perfect digital store made solely for developers/publishers which automatically translates into anti-customer since all those publishers are kikes.


d93100  No.16238479

>>16238475

>I wonder how much it takes, do they cover budgets of those games or promises to compensate all the losses too?

I have heard that, in addition to an upfront payout, they have "Guaranteed sales" which means they say (using arbitrary numbers) "You'll sell half a million copies, and if you don't we'll give you the difference between what you made in actuality and what you would have if you sold half a million".


76d70f  No.16238559

>>16238479

That does makes sense. There is no way they would risk their asses otherwise and the risk is even bigger than making something different instead of using existing AAA formulas.


3ccd94  No.16238589

So what's the game like anyways? A compromise between nu-xcom's simplicity, skill system and old xcom's TUs, aiming and ballistics? Because quite frankly that's what Firaxis should have done in the first place but didn't because they're fucking hacks.

It's such a shame this game is raising red flags with this move and the fact that I recall it was funded by Fig or something.


ce8811  No.16238608

>>16237185

This is so true. The reason why I've never truly minded Steam all these years is because it provides enough value to make having it on my pc worth while.

Valve gets a lot of hate these days, but the reason why Steam has done so well is because Gabe was right when he said "piracy is a service issue" (or something to that effect).

The fact is that despite many missteps and controversies, Valve has proven to be a very good caretaker of PC gaming. There was a period where PC gaming was practically dead. I remember when game smugly reviewers joked that PC gaming should be renamed "wow gaming", because that was the only widespread game being played (aside from stuff like CS 1.6, DOTA and a few RTS games). Steam literally made pc gaming a viable space for developers by getting the product to the people and being unobtrusive enough that gamers didn't mind having the software on their pc.

PC gamers are a fickle bunch, always have been. People will start pirating and hacking games again if they try to upset the market here.


c4ade0  No.16238621

You mean Epicfags get to beta test this shit for a year and pay full price for it? That's a damn good thing.


c4ade0  No.16238641

>>16238639

>literally a crappy RTS

Your google-fu is pretty weak. Upgrade yourself.


21a165  No.16238655

>>16238467

I'd like to think so but no they're probably just steam drones.


97cea6  No.16238664

File: 4f1b77500d927f9⋯.jpg (15.44 KB, 255x246, 85:82, 4b862b42bfd3d8bde8e9fbcf6f….jpg)

>>16238639

>be me


373013  No.16238674

File: fef1457e1ec79dc⋯.png (79.57 KB, 302x449, 302:449, e9759e197a10eabe310c30c1fb….png)

>Backers will not receive steam or GoG keys for a year either.

HOLY FUCK


373013  No.16238682

>>16236697

>This sets a really shitty precedent

One that no one will follow when no one buys the fucking game and everyone who backed it shit talks the game up and down their board of choice not only until launch but for an entire year afterward.


39ebeb  No.16238691

>>16236245

From what the devs said so far they've given them enough money that even if all backers request a refund they'd still have money left over.


39ebeb  No.16238698

>>16236904

Don't forget that a lot of the fortnite playerbase is on consoles and mobile. The 200 million number isn't the one that is using the epic store to play it.


58714d  No.16238940

>>16237177

>No DRM

>good security

>website internet 1.0 UI that's clean, clear and not resource heavy

>client has screenshot server (no public, friends-only or private or ratings), and friends lists with voice chat and group chats.

>refunds

>>16237732

>expecting something you were offered delivered in that way is unacceptable behavior

Topkike

How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

>>16238698

Good to know, that's something I completely forgotten about.

Since it's F2P I'm betting it isn't all unique players either.


4fbc66  No.16238961

>>16236155

Pay pigs BTFO. I love seeing the Valve drones squirm, I never wanted Steam to begin with yet the Valve drones refusing to boycott is why digital distribution has a monopoly on PC.

Anyone that has ever paid for digital distribution voted with their wallet for this because you voted with your wallet for the developer to make as much profit as possible with the least amount of effort even at the expense of the game. DLC and micro transactions are a bad thing yet no one is bitching about that, just proves that Valve has done irreversible damage to gaming and has brainwashed people.

Perfect opportunity to start demanding DRM free physical releases, whether it be on flash drive or disc, but everyone is too busy praising le gaben. Fuck Valve and fuck Epic.


7d83d2  No.16239059

So are backers locked into their key choice? They don't get an Epic key?


85833c  No.16239070

>>16238475

Who says it has to be money? There's a good chance it's just straight up blackmail.


864399  No.16239082

>>16238940

>How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

the industry thats currently taking a shellacking? It's getting what it deserves, provide shit quality and people leave/find other alternatives. any freemarket fag claiming that everything wil lbe honest and work without issues is stupid or naive. what will happen is what you're eeing with phoenix point, people abandon your product.


dd5de1  No.16239090

>>16236892

>They somehow do not realize that a 90/10 split means shit if you only sell 5% of your potential customers

>>16237811

>States that the money will help them get the professionally-made already-funded project done

>Comes into work and reads this speech >>16236193 he had clearly never read before from a monitor

>Plays Warframe for the entirety of his waking day on a Wednesday afterwards

No amount of money is going to make this game feel complete.


dd5de1  No.16239093

>>16239090

Oh fuck me right in the ass, I had company show up and interrupt me and I forgot to even reply to one of the posts I quoted. I was going to say that 5% was a generous prediction, because the overwhelming majority of people who download the Epic launcher know it only as the Fortnite launcher. But I guess everybody knows that.


4b29ee  No.16239096

File: b055607dbcb65da⋯.gif (Spoiler Image, 55.32 KB, 450x338, 225:169, 1545395312583.gif)


4d584d  No.16239140

File: 7a07c30f0ace9ef⋯.png (5.74 KB, 100x100, 1:1, 3029101.png)

>>16237629

>Discord

Why even use this kike datamine?


21a165  No.16239163

>>16238940

>How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

The video game market is being hot really hard right now because their practices are coming back to hurt them. It's great but it cannot always be there best markets take time to react but they are a hell of a lot faster than governments. The one shitty thing is terrible companies taking over cherished properties. However this is because of the insane copyright legislation


fa933e  No.16239164

>>16239059

He basically told his backers to choose between:

>requesting a full refund

>stay with gog and steam with free DLC for a year

>to go fuck themselves

The DLC one is obviously a garbage choice, why an epic key was never given as well for free is amusing, and assumes that some people will use the refund to do so.


21a165  No.16239173

>>16239164

Wait you cannot just choose to get the game for epic and cuck out? So all their backers are the last people to have access to the game they backed?


709ac7  No.16239191

>>16239140

because my shitposting will ruin the credibility of their database


fa933e  No.16239228

>>16239173

That's how I read some of the backers comments after this came out and what Gollop says in the video.


58714d  No.16239239

>>16239163

>because their practices are coming back to hurt them

Better not tell you the gacha revenue (^:


b622ce  No.16239243

>>16236155

>Backers will not receive steam or GoG keys for a year either.

Is that even legal?


85833c  No.16239246

>>16239239

The post revenue instead of profit on those for a reason you know.


110af9  No.16239249

>people pay extra to get GoG keys

>lol you're not going to get them for a year after launch

How the FUCK did they EVER think this was going to be a good idea?


b622ce  No.16239252

This wasn't even a particularly well-known game to begin with, why did they get Epicbux?


85833c  No.16239259

>>16239252

Perhaps despite all the grandstanding Epic is terrified of anything getting big enough on their platform to topple Fortnite. The game is supposedly already bleeding users at an insane rate anyway.


58714d  No.16239266

>>16239252

Because chinese government can get user data through tencent and on top of that they want to compete with steam


b622ce  No.16239272

>>16239259

>The game is supposedly already bleeding users at an insane rate anyway.

That's because of the Titanfall spinoff Apex Legends, I don't play BRs but I've heard it's a much better game from the very foundation up.

>>16239266

That doesn't answer my fucking question, this game was super obscure, there would have been better games to buy.


85833c  No.16239276

>>16239272

>but I've heard it's a much better game from the very foundation up

I have a very hard time believing that.


21a165  No.16239279

>>16239272

Maybe everyone saw what happened to metro and are avoiding them?


b622ce  No.16239283

>>16239276

Again, never played it.


21a165  No.16239309

>>16239239

Among gacha games all the most successful ones are the ones that have threads here where people talk about how they are happy with the games. You may not like those games but their customers seem to be. None of them are locking of brands either, CyGames is expanding into console games and there is still tons of fate stuff and SNK are still making other games as well.


97cea6  No.16239409

File: 8b5a719a661a26b⋯.png (56.33 KB, 273x391, 273:391, 8b5a719a661a26bffe3c4a786c….png)

>>16239309

You're telling me addicts don't realize they have a problem?


ff3e01  No.16239497

File: 80f40fa122d26d0⋯.png (422.5 KB, 431x477, 431:477, alexjoneschampagne.png)

Reminder that Epic has given newcomers to its store a minimum sale guarantee, and that you can pirate said games and the studios will still turn a profit.


d93100  No.16239545

And even if epic doesn't tencent can bail them out.

And even if tencent doesn't the chinese govt can bail them out.


d93100  No.16239548

>>16239545

was a reply to >>16239497


ff3e01  No.16239561

>>16239548

We should all be campaigning for piracy of any Epic store game. This is because Epic are the ones losing money if sales thresholds aren't being met, and developers are getting free money to make the games we want.


aa0f24  No.16239573

its interesting, its pretty obvious the are doing things in the shadows to better the situation for developers unlike steam that focuses almost entirely on user experience

also i read somewhere they prioritize other things above "number" of features


468138  No.16239641

>>16237811

>reddit 4chan

always the perfect crime.

>>16238431

the sky is the limit!


58714d  No.16239679

>>16237811

>reddit 4chan

God damn those cursed ebaumsworld terrorists.

What does discord offer in terms of totalitarian control that reddit is seen as "hub of toxicity"?


21a165  No.16239730

>>16239561

Yeah if they actually make up for lost sales the way to maximize the money developers get is to pirate their games. The game will sell like shit therefore get more money from epic. Then but the game when it releases everywhere else. Even the normalfags who denounce piracy as stealing won't be able to argue against it. Did this shit to Reddit.


0fa847  No.16239804

>>16238431

>They're just going to cancel releasing on GoG

They might, according to one of the devfag leakers both GoG and Steam are pissed


97cea6  No.16239821


d93100  No.16239898

File: 17c308096facfd7⋯.png (22.35 KB, 1129x133, 1129:133, h85ndar19vl21[1].png)

I'm on their reddit currently because I believe an AMA is supposed to be in progress. Here's sauce on that rumor of them saying they don't need backer money.


ea90a5  No.16239906

>>16239898

assholes. Straight up assholes. Make sure to save all incriminating evidence because you'll need it to attack the shill fags.


d93100  No.16239915

File: 80c2a71daab04a4⋯.png (45.85 KB, 906x481, 906:481, IFImZdE[1].png)

File: 4707c5dc3d1b0be⋯.png (78.34 KB, 321x185, 321:185, 1494858107001.png)


d93100  No.16239939

File: 0efc1ce9f16aa60⋯.png (79.26 KB, 1239x749, 177:107, p74me7p6ewl21[1].png)

1. A PR rep insulting customers then editing his posts after realizing he banned someone for being insulting

Well, I was planning on a bunch of screenshots but they've answered maybe 6-8 quests in 45 minutes, most of which are extremely mundane, and all they've really said is that they're going to be making "at least 3 DLCs".


ea90a5  No.16239940

>>16239915

kek. Refusal of refund as well.


3ccd94  No.16239954

File: f981cac2caa636a⋯.png (568.44 KB, 1280x13092, 320:3273, trustpilot epin games.png)


297de6  No.16239959

File: 72674044d27573e⋯.png (176.9 KB, 303x311, 303:311, 1.png)

You have received your lesson #112412632634634609489493584 to never buy a game before it's finished.

Yet you'll make the same mistake again in the future, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.


fa933e  No.16239960

>>16239939

They're probably not going to answer many important questions, more damage control screenshots would be neat though.


d93100  No.16239962

File: 735825344a18322⋯.png (37.67 KB, 914x528, 457:264, 1ZX83fM[1].png)

File: b58dd4491bb4a43⋯.jpg (476.69 KB, 960x640, 3:2, 1506889713001.jpg)

>Chinks buy you out

>You can't give the game to chinks who bought it


60c61b  No.16239970

>>16239252

>>16239272

It's a Chinese business tactic, buy everything that is low hanging fruit to pad out your hastily propped up competitor. After a certain point they'll start shilling for hueg original game exclusives and making any suckers who are with them longer term to churn out shitty trash, possibly with the employees they hired from those companies.

>>16239939

That is just sad.


ea90a5  No.16239972

>>16239962

>Tencent owns WeGame and EpicStore

>Can't get the game on WeGame

Great company. DING DONG PING PONG.


4f5918  No.16239975

Fig should've been warning enough for those who pay attention.


d93100  No.16239977

File: 1fe3bdc276a8426⋯.png (27.93 KB, 857x291, 857:291, rrWiEbb[1].png)

They currently claim it will still be DRM free, so there's that at least. Can anyone confirm if any epic games store games are currently DRM free?


60c61b  No.16239988

>>16239977

Your screenshot already answers the question.

>and will run without the Epic Launcher


ea90a5  No.16239990

>>16239977

>Can anyone confirm if any epic games store games are currently DRM free?

Its up to the developer. They can turn around and shove Denuvo in it if they want to. At this point would anyone be surprised if they did that?


39ebeb  No.16240010

File: b62a9551ec61150⋯.png (58.28 KB, 1013x701, 1013:701, Unbenannt.PNG)

>>16239977

>they approached Epic

EIther pr talk or they're more stupid then the look.


d93100  No.16240015

File: 1a25c2b5ab84d77⋯.png (20.05 KB, 620x233, 620:233, wNbqJ6B[1].png)

File: c5cdd91ef77bdbc⋯.png (13.86 KB, 616x191, 616:191, jzr6Nd6[1].png)

1. A lie, Metro honored steamkeys

2. Also their response for any question as to their decision making process

Reddit currently won't load more things that Julian said because it's a fucking dogshit site with a dogshit layout so I may as well post now

>>16239988

Here's another quote from him

>Backers will get GoG/Steamkeys

I was just wondering if it was possible or if they had their own steamworks style shit


c24601  No.16240023

>>16239962

Wait, why is the epic launcher blocked in china? What insane chink thought it was a good idea to do that?


3ccd94  No.16240026

>>16240023

Are you telling me you don't expect China to make their own Fortnite clone for chinks only?


811367  No.16240059

>>16236318

>Their plan is to do what steam did 15 years ago

. . .


811367  No.16240135

>>16237744

>I le remember back le when there were le anons said things retarded I we le all le believed each other

You didn't remember shit nigger >>>/reddit/ >>>/cuckchan/ >>>/suicide/


5e6723  No.16240150

File: 47f715e46350a1d⋯.jpg (42.46 KB, 640x480, 4:3, thinking.jpg)

>>16240026

But isn't epic owned by Tencent which is a Chinese company already?


85833c  No.16240152

>>16240023

>>16240150

The whole purpose of Chink buyouts is to bankrupt competition. This includes the companies bought out as well.


d93100  No.16240168

>>16240152

Yeah, I can't imagine this company will ever make a successful game after this, and if there isn't a lot of interest why would tencent bribe them to make it?


60c61b  No.16240212

>>16240168

They need to do it long term.


d93100  No.16240240

It's been 37 minutes since a question was answered so I assume the AMA is over.


7d83d2  No.16240404

>>16239082

that might be true of the frozen pizza or pig iron industry, but video games are an addictive escape for generations of now aging disaffected and alienated youth


15c57f  No.16241239

>>16239090

>reads […] from a monitor

I didn't even notice that, I was laughing too hard.

Also, I guess people are angry, not just because they got shafted, but because it looks like an independent gamedev signing a contract with the devil, the exact scenario that crowdfunding was meant to replace (or at least people think that way).


b22d5d  No.16241392

>>16239898

WE DON'T NEED YOU TO BUY OUR GAMES

the state of gaming in 2019


acdda3  No.16241431

>>16240150

It's not. The founder of the company is the majority share holder.


2e385a  No.16241792

>>16239249

They probably though they could get away with it because in their eyes people are morons who will eat anything from their hands. There is really too much of overconfidence and this will bite them in the ass, at least as soon as chinks stop giving them money.

>>16240010

>EIther pr talk or they're more stupid then the look

I think they're just typical kikes who wanted the safest approach for getting maximized profit.


97cea6  No.16241817

>>16241792

>in their eyes people are morons who will eat anything from their hands

To be fair, most people are.


85833c  No.16241831

>>16241817

Most people aren't the ones funding this game.


b1116b  No.16241857

File: 18d3679ac1b93c2⋯.png (210.77 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, get off my certs reeeeeeee….png)

File: a61266769eda536⋯.png (204.11 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, I'm sure there's nothing i….png)

File: 4c8ec2863f04128⋯.png (86.08 KB, 728x797, 728:797, internet exploder keys v2.png)

File: 9b7ce2db198f6c8⋯.png (207.88 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, internet exploder keys.png)

File: 67c13678207fb19⋯.png (205.86 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, kyaa, not my cookies.png)

Today I pulled out a spare laptop, did a fresh win7 install, and set up fiddler and procmon to see just how botnet the Epic Games Store client is.

Let's take a look, shall we?

We've got it poking at my root certs, doing a hardware survey, messing with IE's registry entries, and reading IE's cookies.


305b9a  No.16241872

>>16241857

so Every poor mother fucker who got an Epic Account is now held by Chinese Government? Dumb Cunts


60c61b  No.16241875

>>16241792

>I think they're just typical kikes who wanted the safest approach for getting maximized profit.

What kind of Kike would deliberately sign a 1-year deal that prevents them from tapping into all three markets at their choosing? A retarded one that's who.


b1116b  No.16241883

File: 2f3d5dc3110e2d5⋯.png (126.01 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, look ma i have an entire s….png)

File: 7e13c4708d1ce74⋯.png (15.53 KB, 1104x59, 1104:59, multicast spam.png)

File: f66c6ee5fd8033c⋯.png (19.56 KB, 1341x88, 1341:88, process enum.png)

File: 7db759251411bbe⋯.png (134.19 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, tracking.js sure isn't sus….png)

File: 26461088b0e7418⋯.png (212.36 KB, 1366x728, 683:364, why are you looking for sh….png)

>>16241857

Gosh, that's an awful lot on two separate tracking subdomains, and it's serving js directly to the store client. There's nothing strange, suspicious, or sketchy about that.

Oh and look, it's checking out all processes on the computer that are running under my username! It's poking at fiddler, too - why is it doing things to DLLs that don't exist inside of the fiddler install folder? Why isn't it staying in its own folder?

It's also flooding multicast in a way that'll kill any internet TVs you might have. I hope you don't have more than one computer on your home network running EGS at a time!

Oh, and here's a copy of that tracking.js script: https://pastebin.com/yqeeqSvq

I give it a rating of ChiCom Botnet / 10. Be sure to like and subscribe, and email Julian Gollop with exactly what you think of his choice of platforms.


1bfd39  No.16241915

>>16241883

>>16241857

Excellent investigative work, thanks anon


d93100  No.16242663

>>16241392

>Developers don't need gamers anymore and that's a good thing


2e1967  No.16242743

>>16241857

>>16241883

I mean, has anybody expected anything else from Chinese-sponsored storefront trojan? Too bad Steam or whatever probably aren't much better in that regard.


fff104  No.16242800

>>16241817

>To be fair, most people are

Yes, but to what extend?

>>16241875

>A retarded one that's who

It's not like there are smart kikes. In the end nearly all of them are retarded which is why we have the industry is such garbage state. You don't have to be smart to exploit a bunch of retards, getting into business wouldn't be as easy otherwise.

>>16241857

>>16241883

Not surprised even in the slightest.


7d83d2  No.16242968

>>16241883

so their client a wrapped IE?


463e5c  No.16242982

SORRY GOYIM, but a deal's a deal! We made this deal with Epic to snaure the success of our game. What's that? You're saying you backed our game expecting a DRM-free release on GOG? Do you have any commitment written and signed by us? No? Too bad, guess you'll have to sit around and wait for a year! Try to avoid in spoilers! Guess you'll just have to stay out of any discussion threads about a game you were excited enough about to back!


4fbc66  No.16243385

It should be illegal to charge for digital distribution and piracy should be legal.

>>16242982

>GOG

>DRM-free

I'm tired of this meme


86cb64  No.16243449

>>16237125

F L A T

D E S I G N


d8f4e5  No.16243450

>>16242663

I could see the article now "Developers No Longer Need Customers and That's a Good Thing". They right a giant piece pointing out that all developers should go to epic they have no user reviews or forums for harrasment campaigns. Plus they give you sales even if nobody buys your game.

The normalfags need to be educated about how epic's guaranteed sales agreement works. Also that because of this the way to ensure developers to get the most money is to boycott the epic store and buy the game on steam/gog after exclusivity ends.


d8f4e5  No.16243455

>>16243385

Gog has me really worried right now but they are drm-free I don't know why you think otherwise.


86cb64  No.16243456

>>16237846

There will always be normalfags that waster their money.


47a215  No.16243475

>>16243385

Feel free to dispute this fact of you've found some cute anecdote.


1c093c  No.16243507

>>16237752

>>16237735

I just assumed he was a typical person of the current year and stating that it's unacceptable to hold people to their promises. Because the world has fallen and nothing can save it from circling the drain.


c7e91c  No.16243544

File: e30e96edc12f215⋯.jpg (538.51 KB, 2560x2930, 256:293, 7ce9e433c31ae11e04e7f3a9df….jpg)

>>16241857

>>16241883

>Video game journalists

>Shill a blatant Chinese data mining front

>Some random autistic on /v/

>Does actually investigation into the allegations of data mining and finds them to be true

Funny how that works.


0f7f76  No.16243592

But will PP be good?


6c880d  No.16243674

>>16243592

It's Nu-XCOM with free aim from what we have seen so far. Not bad, but it's been pushed back twice already. Given that they just took a lot of Chink money I would guess they ran into problems.


358b9a  No.16243961

File: a34e09cb2dc5e3b⋯.png (264.56 KB, 500x540, 25:27, this kills the man.png)

>>16241857

>tell my friends that discord and the epic launcher are botnets

<hurr what's that?

>They steal your information and sell it to marketing companies

<hurr and why should I care lmao, what are they gonna find, my porn folders? looooool, who cares dude, discord is the best voip and all my friends use it, stop being so paranoid

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DO NORMALFAGGOTS DON'T CARE?! THE FUCKING CHINKS ARE TAKING YOUR INFORMATION AND SELL IT AND THESE RETARDS ARE CLUELESS! THEY THINK I AM SOME KIND OF PARANOID WEIRDO


d8f4e5  No.16244005

>>16243961

I think discord is going to start shrinking soon. I hardly hear anybody talk about it in a positive light anymore. Most people just use it now because it's free and what everyone was using. A privacy centered alternative that cut out all the bloat and memes would probably find a starting userbase that could grow.


778f32  No.16244036

>>16243961

This is why an internet reset needs to happen, if it doesn't normalfags are going to lead the world into a cyberpunk nightmare that hasn't even been imagined yet.


5db4cc  No.16244047

>>16241857

So it's doing essentially what every other big corporation does? Certainly hope you don't use Windows 10, Google Chrome or Facebook.

There are so many good reasons to shit on Epic/Tencent, and they absolutely are spying on the user, but it's reminiscent of the Huawei situation: Who would you rather spy on you, a country that can prosecute you or a country that can't?

The correct answer is neither. Pirate everything.


97cea6  No.16244057

>>16244005

You don't hear about it on /v/ because we mostly bully the discord fags out of here. I imagine it's still in widespread use elsewhere.


4f9648  No.16244058

File: 91facd7a3468444⋯.mp4 (1.27 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Discord - Don't Be A Broom….mp4)

File: 7548cdf9d7b5e82⋯.png (765.19 KB, 922x5275, 922:5275, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16243961

lmao you actually think people sell your information

even if it was true, who cares

oh no the chinese will know where some dude lives in the US, what a cyberpunk nightmare lmao

you're probably being tracked right now, and unless you want to go amish, you won't be able to avoid it

(USER WAS DATAMINED FOR THIS POST)

b1116b  No.16244068

File: 5ad40d6f7a99296⋯.webm (14.77 MB, 720x720, 1:1, OH_SHIT_I'M_FEELING_IT_(B….webm)

>>16244036

A reset isn't going to happen. Resort to hidden services. Not even TOR, just start doing things like using OpenNIC and getting other people to do the same. An entire internet separate from ICANN DNS, inaccessible without using their DNS servers (or editing your hosts file).

There are open alternatives to most major services. Matrix/Riot instead of Discord, for example. Shit, even IRC is still around.

It's all what you make of it.

>>16244058

Begone, NORP.


58714d  No.16244081

File: 8c3020cac358819⋯.jpg (36.31 KB, 320x486, 160:243, 8c3020cac358819539ea5b9062….jpg)

File: 989cec075ab10c8⋯.png (468.71 KB, 630x590, 63:59, crying_skellington.png)


58eb33  No.16244115

>>16244058

>Chinese

The owners are a jewish.

I know… /pol/ crap and stuff, but let's call a cat a cat and a jew a jew shall we?

http://archive.fo/NuGHZ


d93100  No.16244168

>>16244115

>I know… /pol/ crap and stuff

Cuckchan?


358b9a  No.16244173

>>16244068

My buddies are too apathetic to switch to riot or matrix unfortunately


b1116b  No.16244254

>>16244173

Make buddies who do care.

I really hope /cyber/ can coalesce around a handful of services and become more of a community thing


d8f4e5  No.16244418

>>16244057

It is but before normalfags would say discord is great I'm glad it was made. Now the conversation is not happening or people are negative about it


4d584d  No.16244965

File: 42f99e30d67f739⋯.jpg (3.89 KB, 119x119, 1:1, you.jpg)

>>16244058

>lmao lmao dude lmao chinese lmao cyberpunk lmao

You goddamn stupid, worthless nigger.


26577f  No.16244980

File: af1f2179ffed66d⋯.png (627.39 KB, 1597x1600, 1597:1600, EXCELLENT QUALITY.png)


3528fe  No.16244997

>>16244168

He says that because fags always go "muh pole" or "dah joos" every time someone names the jew. The has been happening more lately.

>>16244980

Theres no meat on that hook.


db84f2  No.16245132

What is Phoenix Point?


58714d  No.16245160

>>16245132

Bootleg X-com but advertised as not as shitty as firaxis ones.


374466  No.16246297

File: ca68ad90be4b0d1⋯.jpeg (102.96 KB, 790x600, 79:60, ca68ad90be4b0d11e4724622c….jpeg)

>>16244058

or the fact that everything that connects to the internet collects data that is extraordinarily easy to take and store, which overtime builds behavior patterns that wont just track you but would actively predict your behavior. and that's not even mentioning that other people collect data about you, no matter what security measures you take or if you go completely dark all you need is someone to talk about you on faceberg to have data points collected on you. we live in a cyberpunk dystopia but we forgot to add the cool stuff.

>>16244173

not only do my friends refuse to use riot, they try to bully me for caring about things and then get so pissy they refuse to even talk to me for weeks at a time


0f6191  No.16246346

File: 924af75928f9e5c⋯.jpg (84.7 KB, 720x545, 144:109, 924af75928f9e5c3d96909f60a….jpg)

>>16244058

>USER WAS DATAMINED FOR THIS POST


f95214  No.16251062

I stopped pirating PC games maybe 10 years ago, but this whole Epic bullshit is gonna make me restart.

The funny thing is that with the minimum sales guarantee, even buyfags can pirate with a clear conscience, since Epic will graciously pay for our non-sold copies to devs! Great, huh? So pirate fucking everything.


c266d6  No.16252565

>>16237125

Valve did the same thing with that pointless community tab. Where did this "randomly size the tiles and mix them up" shit come from?


4975b8  No.16253038

>>16252947

Just privacy. One you get a profile built even if you move to a new computer it can follow you. I personally don't like the idea of someone tracking my tastes and looking in on what I am doing.


f1a94f  No.16253057

>>16244058

oh my god, they had to make a shitty annoying meme to combat the anti-discord hate


f1a94f  No.16253069

>>16252947

there are billions of TERABYTES of info being collected off everybody. big companies like google and amazon have literal black holes of storage space. if this doesn't scare you you're a retard. there gonna let an ai have access to all that data at some point.

it's going to get worse with as many people there are like you. apathetic retards. why let those greedy jews steal shit from you and make a profit

data mining is the new way to make cash off people who wont pay. it's replacing ads. ads are cancer and so is data mining. I bet you don't use adblock


4395bd  No.16253085

>>16253069

I'm less concerned with them selling my information for profit and more about when they decide to use the information they have gathered offensively to blackmail politicians and rig elections.


cf3da6  No.16253201

>>16243961

I'd wager modern marketing, maybe marketing in general, has always had some sort of "bot net." If it's supposed to go to marketing companies, then people who are resistant to influence will notice very little change in their lives, if there is any change. I know I do. "Predicting behavior patterns" doesn't faze me either, since people knowing what I like might actually help normalfags stay the hell away from me. "Predicting behavior patterns to sell to governments" doesn't faze me either, since not wanting to be a normalfag makes me to probably every government an inherent domestic terrorist anyway, and I'm still here, so whatever.


b1116b  No.16255265

File: 195a91f48671519⋯.png (1.46 MB, 1914x4402, 957:2201, the ebin store.png)

>>16241857

>>16241883

So this was all sorts of fun. 8ch was actually the third place I posted this info to, although it's always first in my heart. Since there's a small audience here, I posted it on leddit and then made an infographic (pic related) for cuckchan, each pandering to the respective style and userbase of the site. I got schooled pretty hard on not knowing the Windows API, and that a lot of things that are happening here are normal Chromium/Electron app things (apparently any time you use SSL it loads the entire cert store for example, and all http stuff is going to be poking at IE registry keys). But it took off enough that Sweeny himself responded to a comment chain, and other users started investigating it, and as it turns out, Epic scrapes information on the friends list and recently played games from Steam. Now Valve is investigating, Epic says they're going to change things in the launcher, and overall it kicked off a minor shitstorm.

No archive because bleepingcomputer is actually good and has saved my ass many times: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/epic-promises-to-fix-game-launcher-after-privacy-concerns/

(also the bit about scraping process names to avoid updating running games is bullshit, it was scraping even before I had anything in my library, much less installed)

Just remember anons, a well-crafted shitpost or two can cause some genuinely interesting, far-reaching changes.


97cea6  No.16255277

File: 53f1268b0508e3e⋯.jpg (52.92 KB, 591x381, 197:127, 53f1268b0508e3e8b1745657a4….jpg)

>>16255265

>I posted it on leddit and then made an infographic (pic related) for cuckchan


79e871  No.16255281

>>16255277

2 shekels deposited in your account


f328bd  No.16255287

File: d108fe3cb3494a3⋯.png (369.29 KB, 802x723, 802:723, CIA NIGGERS.png)

File: edc35d3c37687f9⋯.png (554.9 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 1461544938120.png)

>>16244058

FUCK OFF YOU BOTNET LOVING FAGGOT


b1116b  No.16255288

File: 340aed86c9f5050⋯.png (3.26 MB, 1133x1650, 103:150, 1535930486449.png)

>>16255277

You're a piss-poor opportunist. The effectiveness of the strategy can pretty clearly be seen in the fact that it didn't come to the attention of the mainstream from here or from cuckchan, although it spread a lot of excellent FUD in cuckchan.


97cea6  No.16255291

>>16255288

Get the fuck out of our site you rapefugee.


b1116b  No.16255302

>>16255291

I was here before (you)


1bcce9  No.16255313

>>16255291

You're a faggot and you have never contributed anything to any operations that have ever been done.


596f09  No.16255328

File: 29f837a153c9cdf⋯.jpg (8.51 KB, 224x225, 224:225, 4free.jpg)

>>16255291

>stop exposing my botnet!

typed Chang nervously as Xao Ping looked over his shoulder, lowering his social credit score every second he didn't audibly praise the communist party.


fa9f26  No.16255331

File: ceb00319497325a⋯.jpg (119.99 KB, 688x714, 344:357, 1444975360946-4.jpg)


305b9a  No.16255338

>>16255288

Source?


f95214  No.16255345

I'm pretty happy overall. They get more money to work on DLCs in the short term, more hate is generated toards Epic (which is always good), and the game is being released DRM Free, so I can pirate it on day one with no fear of botnets or cryptominers. Sounds good to me.

>>16236926

There are 2 board members on Epic from Tencent. This does not bode well. Plus, Epic could end up being purchased by Tencent in the long run, which I think is their actual end game once they finish fattening up the western pig.

Incidentally, here's a Grid 2 steam key I dont need:

V9WJX-CKP8C-M2QXM


fa9f26  No.16255347

>>16255345

>Pasting the key vanilla into the website

I wonder what bot got it.


84ad62  No.16255360

>>16255302

>>16255313

>>16255328

>>16255331

No matter how many times you change vpns it won't change the fact that you are a self admitted browser of both cuckchan and reddit.


596f09  No.16255384

File: ee251112ee29abd⋯.jpg (159.33 KB, 700x609, 100:87, M'Fuhrer.jpg)

File: d0937d834bc4378⋯.png (8.36 KB, 813x123, 271:41, lel.PNG)

>>16255360

>everyone who calls out my chink malware is the same person


7e817e  No.16255385

>>16255347

it was me, you could have gotten it but you just assumed it was already gone

>>16255345

thank you kindly


113807  No.16255393

>>16236155

Oh no, I have to open the red DRM software instead of the blue DRM software! What ever shall I do?

Not just play a fucking video game regardless of the client software like a non-retard, obviously.


596f09  No.16255396

>>16255393

A non-retard pirates it so you don't have to open either DRMware.


113807  No.16255401

>>16255396

That's all well and good, but I'm interested in putting my earned money towards things I care about. Whether I buy this game all depends on how the content is looking at release though.


132a33  No.16255406

>>16255393

>Not pirating

Tiannanmen Square ching chong ding dong


84ad62  No.16255433

File: be52deaada783fc⋯.png (25.95 KB, 1088x163, 1088:163, html.png)

>>16255384

I'm not defending the chink spyware; I am criticizing you for behavior that you admitted to on your most used IP in this thread. It seems pretty damn suspect that 3 new anons all just happened to enter the thread at once and all attack the same guy. It would have been more believable if you kept it to 1 or maybe 2 new IPs, but you got greedy and went for 3.


84ad62  No.16255473

File: d5b6a00a1dca70b⋯.png (143.26 KB, 1209x393, 403:131, FaggotOutsHimself.png)

>>16255435

The faggot that >>16255291 was telling to leave outted himself as a cuckchan and reddit poster, and then back to back posts by a bunch of new IPs decided to defend the guy. There's no way in hell that there is that much organic support for the crossposter.


cac055  No.16255513

>preorder games

>get fucked

good


97cea6  No.16255886

>>16255473

>here's no way in hell that there is that much organic support for the crossposter.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised though, considering how thoroughly invaded this board is. Cuckchan cancer should have been dealt with when it wasn't such a big problem.


b1116b  No.16255889

File: c2d8caafdbe872d⋯.png (141.08 KB, 447x632, 447:632, received_1814293318880282.png)

>>16255433

>new people show up in a thread after it has been bumped to the top of the index repeatedly

Anon, do you know how imageboards work?


bb429a  No.16255892

>>16236155

I had to google phoenix point


250023  No.16256132

>>16236155

shrug, I got that dumb launcher for gesesis alpha something something, the colony clones are you are lives game. still on my first serious run of that, once you get 4 shields(muh plat) almost everything is a joke. there is some area that is still yellow. I was just going to beat the game, unlock and research everything and then uninstall epic but now PP will keep it on there.

PP is pretty far from release. we should get backer build 4?I think soon but there are a lot of systems to tweak. It seems to me based on backer 3. So we are looking at a year till release and then another year after that?

PP has a lot of potential and it should be close to original real not shit xcom. More money to this dev in this case is fine with me.

all that said we need to mode this guy's body into game as a corrupted human or something. Xcom: enemy unkown was one of the greatest pc games ever made


a0487d  No.16256204

>>16255265

Good work anon. It's always nice to see autism have real world effects


786a46  No.16256310

>>16253038

>>16253069

Yeah, I understand it's a little fucked to have your privacy invaded like that… but at the same time I feel like nowhere on internet is safe anymore. So I don't care much about it. I just hope the fbi doesn't come to my house just because I post racist stuff.


d93100  No.16257101

>>16256132

Are you actually a child?




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