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File: 5b897ed9e30a496⋯.jpg (1.46 MB, 2820x1773, 940:591, GSC.jpg)

8ad038  No.16673254

Pokémon thread, only the original 251 from Bulbasaur to Celebi. Gen 3 discussion is tolerated but nothing after that.

Post your:

>Favorite mon

>Favorite romhack

Scyther

Crystal Clear

98aa9a  No.16673260

Aron, Larvitar, Totodile

Polished Crystal


edadd4  No.16673261

File: 35cea60762ed244⋯.jpg (320.52 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, 神つりえさ.jpg)

Landorus-Therian

Pokemon Reborn


98aa9a  No.16673264

>>16673261

uma delicia


8de199  No.16673266

>Gen 3 discussion is tolerated but nothing after that.

I'll decide if I want to talk about later gens, not you you piece of shit kike.


98aa9a  No.16673270

>>16673266

let's get this shitshow started I guess

2 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 8


8ad038  No.16673279

File: 10a020eceb589d2⋯.jpg (343.92 KB, 1724x1244, 431:311, Oak.jpg)

>>16673270

I'd switch 5 with 3.

They were both "reboots" but Hoenn felt like an exotic vacation whereas Unova's urban city life doesn't do it for me. Pokémon is about exploring caves, forests, mountains, seas and natural shit. Unova lacks that atmosphere because it's based on New York.


f74a73  No.16673281

File: 27e87934f3726f5⋯.png (81.66 KB, 1022x1108, 511:554, 1273883240408.png)

>>16673254

Platinum was the absolute apex peak tippest top of the entire franchise. B/W was where Gamefreak lost the fucking plot. The only good Pokemon games are the ones set in Japan.


0e0065  No.16673282

Crobat, Heracross, Toxicroak

Only mod I tried was glazed


4ea3cd  No.16673283

File: 1c28acea2af266d⋯.png (44.58 KB, 232x218, 116:109, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16673254

crobat first, quagsire after that

crystal clear at the moment

thinking about with a rock/ground style team but I don't want to leave crobat out or not be able to use fly


8ad038  No.16673288

>>16673283

>thinking about with a rock/ground style team but I don't want to leave crobat out or not be able to use fly

Aerodactyl?


44f8c6  No.16673289

There any fun gen 1 romhacks that are compatible with Stadium?


1211b1  No.16673317

I still have my pokemon blue and yellow carts.


4ea3cd  No.16673379

>>16673288

that would work

>>16673317

did you change the batteries on them? I did it proper with my crystal cart but something went wrong with my blue cart and now it doesn't start


267903  No.16673382

The only poke thread necessary is Fullderp. Express your tits on your own, dilate, what have you.


49e79e  No.16673397

>>16673382

Fullderp is gay as fuck. I bet you niggers secretly still play with 4um.


d885b2  No.16673408

>>16673270

God Tier;

B2/W2

HG/SS

Emerald

Great Tier;

B/W

Platinum

Colosseum

XD: Gale of Darkness

Good Tier;

FR/LG

Crystal

Yellow

Okay tier;

G/S

R/S

D/P

OR/AS

R/B/G

Shit tier:

X/Y

S/M

US/UM

LGP/LGE


ead4c0  No.16673412

>>16673270

5 > 4 > 3 = 2 > 1 > 7 > 6 > 8


2a5f26  No.16673633

>>16673279

it's based on NY really only in the basic shape of the overworld map, I'd guess BW2 actually has many more caves, mountains, and ruins than Emerald and the rest of gen 3


2a5f26  No.16673650

>>16673254

>OP trying to limit what gens we can talk about because he couldn't figure out how to run the rest on his third-world PC


28e258  No.16673658

>>16673408

That's a great list.


1762cf  No.16673662

>>16673254

Hi, I’m going to talk about all generations after gen 3 and there’s not a goddamn thing you can do to stop me because yours is a spam thread.


8ad038  No.16673675

>>16673650

Actual reason:

>don't have to fuck around with Natures, Abilities, EVs and 31 IV range


b88566  No.16673682

Mawile & Vega, kinda wish there were more hacks with decent fakemon.

>>16673612

been playing through UltraShinyGoldSigma too, still in Johto but everything that wasn't just imported from Crystal suffers from awful fucking writing.

>>16673397

take a dogars

>>16673675

all of those were in gen 3


22f5c6  No.16673741

File: dafc0acc8605962⋯.jpg (284.13 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, smogon.jpg)


b18168  No.16673805

The only good gen 3 design is shedinja, but the draw back is having to put up with yet another bug/flying type to get it. Thought experiment time though: assume you had a team of leet hackers and you could import gen 2 models from Go into LG: how would you change the gym leader and elite four rosters?


c0a7bb  No.16673869

File: 3b4d6787c3339a1⋯.jpg (53.87 KB, 400x400, 1:1, unothreepley.jpg)


7be6e5  No.16673886

File: 2f05f7bcd8d2388⋯.jpg (306.93 KB, 1600x730, 160:73, s-l1600.jpg)

but objectively better remakes exist. The series never got better.


c30d20  No.16673894

>>16673289

No as I'm aware of but crystal clear is compatible with the official games from both generations and stadium 2. you can train your mons from the hack and transfer them to RBY.


8ad038  No.16673902

>>16673886

see

>>16673675

to why HGSS aren't better than GSC.


c30d20  No.16673904

>>16673894

…and vise versa.


b88566  No.16673907

File: 6376923564ed15e⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 4.9 KB, 240x160, 3:2, ultra-shiny-gold-sigma-v1.….png)

File: 2058dcd98cd0040⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 5.35 KB, 240x160, 3:2, ultra-shiny-gold-sigma-v1.….png)

File: ca5d4031acedd99⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 7.08 KB, 240x160, 3:2, ultra-shiny-gold-sigma-v1.….png)

>>16673865

tries to force Zinnia as a secondary rival, and random other characters show up for no reason and act about as well as you'd expect from a romhack. So far it's stuck pretty close to Crystal, but any additions stick out like a sore thumb.

>>16673902

Gen 2 still has IVs, DVs are similar enough to EVs and there's no phys/special split so some mons like Sneasel are utterly gimped by their typing.


011892  No.16673932

File: 9d4bf9235ccaab4⋯.png (211.24 KB, 718x628, 359:314, ClipboardImage.png)

What is it about Crystal Clear that is so likeable? It's a shame I already finished it. Please tell me there's more like it, or even a newer romhack that has the new 3D pokemon in the 2D format? I hope it's not my rose-tinted nostalgia goggles, but I just think the pokemon look a lot better in this gameboy-esque appearance.


30529c  No.16673948

>>16673907

source?

inb4 my ass

>>16673932

the amount of self inserts drops the quality and ur mum succs me off


b88566  No.16673979

File: e5caeced1b634e7⋯.png (1.4 KB, 160x144, 10:9, >Crystal Clear.png)

File: 9e894d9a7f96e72⋯.png (3.56 KB, 160x144, 10:9, >Crystal Queer.png)

File: 8ca8866b932e990⋯.jpg (113.59 KB, 399x697, 399:697, unused femtrainer.jpg)

File: 0129560fe3507bc⋯.jpg (72.41 KB, 327x676, 327:676, unused femtrainer 2.jpg)

File: bf2cd746a847f60⋯.png (3.44 KB, 160x144, 10:9, >Crystal Clear nig.png)

>>16673932

>open world memehack

>discord

>shittons of self-insert trainers

>tranny shit

<made a character from some old pre-gen 1 concept art

>nigged it

Not pictured: NPCs getting an updated and semi-randomized palette, nigging about 70% of NPCs

I really don't get why CC is getting shilled so hard here of all places. Once the novelty wears off it really has nothing going for it.


30529c  No.16674006

>>16673979

Because people are retarded


8ad038  No.16674029

>>16673932

Because unlike 90% of romhacks, CC doesn't change the fundamentals and is still link-compatible with the vanilla games, on top of having a fuck huge amount of content and detail that went into it.

>pokémon can follow you like in Yellow/HGSS

>unique sprites in party screen for all 251 mons

>can start in Kanto or Johto

>can pick your own trainer model

>over 30 starter options, each starting with held items and egg moves

>increased shiny odds for starters/gifts

>built-in quick soft resetter

>can see DVs of your pokemon

>can see DVs of wild pokemon if you get pokédex upgrade

>rival in Mt. Silver is Gold if you started in Kanto

>can battle and re-battle Gyms in any order

>can customize battle music (8-bit RSE, DPP, etc)

>all 251 are available and cleverly put in places where you'd expect them (like Mew being actually under the truck) and for trade evolutions there's a dude in Goldenrod/Celadon

>botched Kanto areas in GSC are recovered and made exactly like they were in Gen 1: Cinnabar island, Viridian forest, Cerulean cave, etc

>a lot of easter eggs like the Magikarp guy in the Mt. Moon Pokecenter giving you a shiny Magikarp if you buy it

It's essentially just Crystal+, I can't even go back to playing vanilla GSC anymore especially since CC fixes the biggest flaw: low level curve. Its open-world freeroam allows a lot of possibilities or combinations of starting town + starter. Some starters know HMs already.

It only sacrifices the linear story of GSC and removes the rival and team rocket from the picture, but fuck man you can now PLAY as a Rocket grunt or Silver.

>>16673948

Yeah the only drawbacks are the few self-inserts tucked here and there or the SJW pandering in the intro (male/female selection being separate from character sprite selection.

also anyone who wants to get CC, stick with 2.0 BETA which is the best version. Don't get the latest one (2.0 "BABY") which has more SJW pandering in it (they made half the NPCs in the game black).


dd4519  No.16674037

>>16673979

>>16673932

>>16674029

get Polished Crystal instead

it's stuck on development hell but the latest beta release is already pretty good. Just make sure you get the version that doesn't use custom pokemon typing.


8ad038  No.16674067

>>16674037

We've had this discussion before, CC is better than PC.

PC has gen 4 pokemon in it and isn't even link compatible with the real games. It's a typical "special snowflake" romhack. CC is just "Crystal but better".


1762cf  No.16674072

>>16673907

I really like the potential of Ultra Shin Gold Sigma because he somehow managed to balance a game that actually has all the regions. It’s just nowhere near done. Most of Kanto is literally just imported from FRLG without any changes to text or function (you go “backward” around the map from the original play through and get nothing but inverted early-game dialogue). At least he’s still working on it.


1738ba  No.16674078

Every generation after the 1st has been shit.


b88566  No.16674098

File: e7039a1be9f3515⋯.png (2.33 KB, 160x144, 10:9, "DJ".png)

File: b96504b13f3e506⋯.png (3.16 KB, 160x144, 10:9, nicknamed mons.png)

File: f0a8375cc62ab91⋯.png (2.11 KB, 160x144, 10:9, crystal queer.png)

>>16674067

because a dozen or so dev inserts with full teams of nicknamed mons isn't special snowflake, but g-d help you if you like Weavile


dd4519  No.16674111

>>16674067

>We've had this discussion before

kek

>PC has gen 4 pokemon in it

only evos and pre-evos from the normal available pokémon in Crystal

>isn't even link compatible with the real games.

literally nobody gives a shit

The hack you're presenting here isn't "Crystal but better", it can change starting region and started mons, it's a big enough departure from Crystal.


239ad4  No.16674122

>>16674078

Gen 1 was janky trash with poorly thought out features. It took GF another three fucking gens to split physical and special by move instead of type.

Fuck you


368723  No.16674144

>>16673408

My fucking nigger.


dd4519  No.16674148

>>16674122

>see you mention physical/special split

>notice CCfag didn't mention it in his enormous post listing features

>look it up

>doesn't have it because "muh compatibility"

and it's trash

get Polished Crystal if you guys really want Crystal but with up to date mechanic improvements and quality of life changes


8ad038  No.16674166

>>16674148

>it's a "can't live without phys/sp split" faggot

lol

Then why bother with playing gen 2, retard?

Go play the remakes then. It has all the "Quality of Life™" changes you want so much. It even has Wi-Fi™ and 3D Graphics™!

Can you see your Pokémon's DVs or Stat Exp in Polished Crystal? The answer is no.


be6a9d  No.16674171

btw polished crystal sucks and crystal clear is also a "special snowflake hack"

the real Crystal+ hack is called Perfect Crystal


c30d20  No.16674179

The only reason I'm playing CC is to make my dream teams to finish both PokeStadium games completely, only finished R1 in stadium 1 years ago and never got the chance to buy the second game.

Im just using that SJW pandering shit of a romhack to train my mons.


2ba877  No.16674192

>>16673254

>>16673650

OP knows EXACTLY when Pokemon died. A true gentleman and scholar.

I'd also say Pokemon was dead with Emerald and onwards, which ironically is the oldest entry point in the franchise where you could theoretically trade pokemon into your current dex.

Everything prior exists in this kinda forgotten and abandoned bubble, where everything in that bubble is still connected to each other. Just think about the stadium games, maybe even Colloseum.

I know it's partly about the new Stat system, but it's like gamefreak purposely decided to segregate the original generation from the milking generation that resided to this day.

Where pokemon was just edgy and world-building enough, without it being solely a waifu generator and gameplay handholding with the odd super competitive autism.


05829b  No.16674197

File: 23a9ac40388b023⋯.jpg (42.76 KB, 552x557, 552:557, pretty lady.jpg)

>>16674171

>crystal clear

Its a discord tranny hack, you cant get it unless you go to the discord filled with trannies.


147101  No.16674233

>>16674197

theres links on reddit same thing really


dd4519  No.16674237

>>16674166

>Then why bother with playing gen 2, retard?

play vanilla crystal then

I get liking the older versio better for many reasons, but defending pre-split moves is an instant retard flag you're holding

>Can you see your Pokémon's DVs or Stat Exp in Polished Crystal? The answer is no.

again, nobody gives a shit

it's a "can't live without visible minmax points" faggot, why bother playing gen2, retard?

>>16674171

Looks pretty solid, but more of a basic Crystal but with every mon internally, non-retarded evo methods and bugfixes rather than an expansion of mechanics. Perfect if you just want the "vanilla crystal" experience but with fixes and without having to rely on link cabling to complete it. If you want Crystal but updated and with expanded canon content, like orange isles and stuff, then Polished Crystal is the one. If you want Crystal but with random pozzed OCs hamfisted in then apparently Crystal Clear is a thing. CC actually looks like the best option for grinding and building mons for transferring purposes, like >>16674179 mentions. But, standalone? Stay clear.


b18168  No.16674251

>>16674098

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05829b  No.16674272

>>16674233

The CC fag on here would refuse to post it and only link the discord. He did attach a file once but wouldn't do it again.


480aaa  No.16674273

File: f8ef1a3df687360⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 241.51 KB, 765x661, 765:661, fef5bf20055187398565a10ffe….png)

Why does Crystal Clear get shilled so much, and with so much zeal? Is it just discord?


147101  No.16674277


475151  No.16674286

So does Pokémon Crystal Clear restore the Japanese sprites?


8ad038  No.16674305

>>16674273

>why is the best romhack talked about so much??

Because it's good?

>>16674286

Yes, and the Celebi event is restored and even improved upon.


3705ed  No.16674320

File: 739d11734542ff4⋯.png (24.04 KB, 829x541, 829:541, zubat hotdog.png)

What do you think of Physical/Special split? Do you wish it was in the earlier games?


ef1dfd  No.16674369

>>16674320

It's nice. Fire attacks being special based, while fire pokemon are usually attack based is retarded.


011892  No.16674383

I’m not sure if what Im thinking of is Crystal Clear but a while ago (5+ years I think) I played a game like it with newer pokemon (all the way up to gen 4 if memory serves) and some custom totally new pokemon but with the Crystal style. Is that Crystal Clear or something else? I wish to revisit it.


cf79a3  No.16674536

>>16674383

Crystal Clear has no new mons beyond Gen 2. You probably played Liquid Crystal.


94cbdd  No.16674544

>>16674320

It's nice, but I don't know how it would affect the earlier games. I just wish Hidden Power received a physical variation maybe Hidden Force? seeing as physical attackers can't use HP as well as pre-split. It'd be similar to how Hyper Beam became special in gen4, but Giga Impact was its physical replacement.


b18168  No.16674588

File: 8ee29c814ac7ece⋯.png (4.61 MB, 3960x2160, 11:6, fat pokemon trainers cream.png)

>>16674273

Discord shills of course–think about it anon, have you ever seen a romhack get this much noise naturally? The tranny hivemind is doing what it always has, latch on to something and attempt to suck it dry for attention's sake.


011892  No.16674610

>>16674536

No, it definitely wasn't. It was in the style of Crystal with the gameboy color graphics.

>>16674588

Why would you save such an image?


b18168  No.16674620

File: 860b14c2b216dc5⋯.png (485.12 KB, 500x542, 250:271, mistyedit.png)


6d4337  No.16674632

>>16673281

i agree, b/w made me so mad when it came out

the region is literally a circle and who cares about fucking plot in a pokemon.

The rivals were the worst TO DATE and the music mostly sucked

New animated pokemon models were cool i guess but a lot of new pokemon sucked and there were 200 of them and you could only catch from them

off topic sorry


72eea9  No.16674640

File: 853552d06b3a18f⋯.gif (1.97 MB, 448x336, 4:3, yellow freedom boner.gif)


011892  No.16674650

>>16674632

How are you offtopic? You're talking about pokemon. Is this how emasculated the posting audience on /v/ has become under Mark's awful moderation?


ab7760  No.16674653

File: feed8320e6ec6df⋯.jpg (230.14 KB, 1024x767, 1024:767, thicc festival.jpg)

>>16674588

EXTRA THICC


22f5c6  No.16674709

File: 5fa94daa0d25ad1⋯.jpg (284.03 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favetypes.jpg)

>>16673675

>>16674029

>don't have to fuck around with Natures, Abilities, EVs and 31 IV range

<but muh DVs, muh built in soft resets

<also don't you dare touch or even mention any hack that isn't just vanilla Crystal with niggers

Really makes you think.

>>16674650

Anyone capable of speaking his mind has already been permabanned for calling out DmC2 shills, so these gentiles are the new face of /v/.


adc705  No.16674717

>>16674029

I was curious why CC was getting shilled so hard until I noticed the reddit spacing.


8ad038  No.16674844

>>16674717

>Reddit invented spacing meme

I've typed like this long before reddit existed.


075e8d  No.16674872

>>16673650

>OP trying to limit what gens we can talk about because he couldn't figure out how to run the rest on his third-world PC

Actually I think it is because OP is likely between the ages of late 20's to early 30's. This is the age group that most likely grew up during the Pokemon craze of the late 90's that was basically the biggest thing for young boys growing up at the time. The first generation of Pokemon was a massive hit in the way Fortnite would be today only I think Pokemon was much bigger than even that because it had a ton of merchandise and the anime to go along with it. The reason he included gen 3 as tolerable is because so many old gen fans checked out of the franchise after the second generation, many even after the first gen. Some however decided to give gen 3 a try and many liked it even though at that point they were growing out of liking Pokemon. So gen 3 for this age group is likely a cut off for many old fans. You either liked it enough to keep going on being a fan and enjoying newer games in the series or you didn't. Then there are some that liked gen 3 but not enough to continue on enjoying the cashcow that is Pokemon.

The only real reason I am bringing this up in the first place is actually because I have seen this unfold in my own life. Pokemon was a way of life for the majority of kids when I was in elementary school. The pokecraze was unlike anything I had experienced for gaming as a kid. By middle school the gen 3 games were coming out and by then most of my peers weren't into Pokemon anymore because it was seen as a childish game series and played out by that point. I remember some however liked the gen 3 games. My old friends I talked to thought they were pretty decent fun games and we got enjoyment out of it but it just wasn't the same at that point so I'd guess the majority of them probably did stop being fans by the end of gen 3. So for most old fans gen 2 or gen 3 is the cutoff for Pokemon. For many it is even the first gen. I think after this cutoff a new crop of younger fans started to come up and the sales trends even kind of prove this a bit since the fourth gen sold better than the last and the trend for Pokemon was continuing to go down in sales for the games a lot from gens 1-3. It is safe to say many could have seen Pokemon as just a fad back then and that kids would move on to the next craze. Of course time has proven Pokemon to have some serious staying power though being the largest media franchise in the world.

So long post here but for many of us with fond nostalgia for those old days of Pokemon we just wouldn't feel right discussing newer games. Doesn't mean they are bad at all. Its just not something we were into and Pokemon as a franchise just isn't the same thing as something along the lines of MGS, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty and many other things where older fans may feel fine talking with newer fans even if they didn't play or enjoy the newer games in these other franchises. Pokemon is a milking cow that basically has a proven formula that works to forever milk to the next batch of kids that come up. If you are an adult that likes that fine, just don't be mad that not everyone feels the same as you might.

>>16673254

>favorite mons

Mewtwo, Charizard, Muk, Pikachu, Dragonite, Gyrados, Feraligatr, Wobuffet, Mankey, Primeape, Scizor, Poochyena, Zigzagoon and Linoone are some of my biggest favorites. Mewtwo being my all time favorite.

>Favorite romhack

I've yet to dive into a romhack. Most interested in trying Prism. I played a bit of it but haven't gotten around to playing the whole thing. I'd love to make my own romhack if I even had the ability to and the time.


47658a  No.16674875

>>16674653

why are you a nigger?


011892  No.16674921

>>16674872

>20's to early 30's

Late 20's at the very least.


dd4519  No.16674940

>>16674709

I didn't even realize it was the same anon.

I couldn't even fathom that the "don't fuck around with natures and EVs and shit" anon would be the same as the "does Polished have visible DV and stat EXP, the answer is no", so didn't even check the IDs.

Holy shit you can't make this stuff up.

Btw, Polished Crystal adds natures and abilities, but gives you the option to disable them.


0e0065  No.16674997

>>16674029

Any idea where I can find the 2.0 Beta version?


f27320  No.16675084

Why are disCUCKS so obnoxious?


7fc3e6  No.16675155

>>16673408

move Colosseum to Okay Tier and D/P to shit tier and I'd agree with this.


011892  No.16675167

>>16673408

B/W should be moved down to Okay or at least Good tier. While it introduced some good things I feel like it was also missing a lot - which B2/W2 certainly did fix but to me those were things that should have been fixed from the getgo.


b704cd  No.16675169

>>16674588

There was that Doom one that turned the game into a PvP Mega Man FPS.


c1cab0  No.16675170

File: 2274db2de479497⋯.jpg (32.37 KB, 640x480, 4:3, one and the same.jpg)

>>16675084

Same reason trannies are. Pic related.


d885b2  No.16675181

File: 9f9ec8dc0ecfb9d⋯.jpg (82.1 KB, 499x497, 499:497, 9f9.jpg)

>>16673932

>What is it about Crystal Clear that is so likeable?

Crystal Clear is fucking trash. It keeps all the problems the older games had for the sake of being trading/stadium compatible when 99% of the people playing it would be using an emulator. It also is filled with OC DONUT STEELS and they removed the battle tower for no good reason.


4486c1  No.16675281

HGSS to B2W2 is the peak of the franchise for me, but that's mostly because I enjoy all the little shit in Pokemon and maybe because /vp/ existed during that time. For a while I've been considering making some sort of Pokemon fangame, but with Game Freak massively fucking up I might have to expedite the process. I heard that Essentials is sort of being replaced with something called Pokemon SDK, but I also heard it's not to far into development itself yet. Not to mention that while for the most part the game is fairly normal, I've got some fucking out there ideas that might not quite work in RPG Maker XP. Regardless, I don't want to ask anybody for help until I have a solid grasp on that sort of shit, and my motivation problems are pretty bad.


258379  No.16675417

Crystal Clear's AIDS levels used to be tolerable even with all the OC's due to it's unique open world design but the 2.0 version turned almost every random NPC into a nigger and it absolutely destroys your immersion. Their Discuck squad is also aware of it and deletes every message pointing that out.

Polished Crystal meanwhile includes all the good features of the future gens and improves the ones that are there. The new areas and writing are taken from the Pokemon Adventures manga and certain anime set pieces and is implemented seamlessly into the vanilla game. And if you hate these features, you can just disable them on startup. And if you don't want to bother with IV autism you can also activate max IV mode on startup where every pokemon has, as the name suggests, max IV's. Also inbuilt nuzlocke mode if that's your thing.


258379  No.16675421

>>16675417

Actually while we are at it, here is a link. Just try it, it's not like you have anything better to do.

https://www.gbahacks.com/2017/03/polished-crystal.html


b18168  No.16675494

File: b7d9ed00d879ea2⋯.jpg (123.1 KB, 1002x1462, 501:731, fat2.jpg)

>>16675169

I'll give you a mulligan for that one, the mega man doom hack is actually good. The thing is though, that one actually did something clever where as cc just shoved trannys into the faces of players and demanded respect for it, then paid some loser pennies on the dollar to shill for it.


e52a4b  No.16675537

>>16673412

>>16673270

>>16673408

>>16673270

>>16673658

>>16674144

>>16675155

>>16675167

>>16674078

Any list that puts gen 1 over fucking anything is being delusional.

Gen 1 looks like dogshit visually, half the types don't even have a move over 60bp, the type chart itself was inbalanced as fuck, it lacked basic quality of life features such as bag pockets, there'e's no held items, and the lack of a SPA/SPD split is shit

The fact of the matter is that Pokemon games change so little entry to entry that the iterative improvements each new gen makes more or less makes each new game better then the last. This is true for a lot of vidya, with people only saying otherwise because of nostaglia and rating things "for their time"; honestly, but especially, ergegiously pokemon, to the point it's not even arguable.

The only times a prior Pokemon Game has been better then a newer one even arguably has been when you go from a thid version to a new gen and miss out on functionality (IE Emerald > DP, and to a lesser extent Crystal > R/S); and then gen 6/7 is very debatably inferior to gen 5 and PT/HGSS for similar reasons.

But Gen 1 being above anything, or Gen 6/7 being below Gen 2 or 3 or DP is your nostalgiagoggles being on way too god damn tight and/or shitting on new things for being new, and/or rating them particularly low due to being unambitious and dissapointing relative to how good they COULD have been, even if putting potential and personal dissapointment aside, say, XY is still blatently a better game then something like GS.

Like shit, I have an insane amount of nostalia for Pokemania, gen 1-2, etc; but be fucking honest with yourself here.

>b-but I AM ranking them based on how good they were for their time

Then fucking say that.

>>16674029

That sounds cool anon. Do they add in new moves to make up for gen 2 not having a lot of goog moves for various types or add the physical/special split?

Would also be cool if they added in some gen 3/4 etc mons, Prism had some really nice gen 2 style sprites for them, but based on what you said it doesn't.

>Don't get the latest one (2.0 "BABY") which has more SJW pandering in it (they made half the NPCs in the game black).

Does it change anything beyond the SJW pandering? I don't mind dealing with silly pronoun stuff or characters being black or whatever if there's other actual gameplay improvements.

>>16674067

>>16674098

>>16674111

How does PC compare to CC exactly beyond the extra mons? How are the sprites for the extra mons?


dadb48  No.16675548

File: f4e92a000d06257⋯.png (391.37 KB, 650x900, 13:18, B_Bvuv D8Yhu80UYAUz8Za ori….png)

File: 75af749737d67f8⋯.jpg (400.88 KB, 1672x2048, 209:256, 52875484_p24.jpg)

File: 21013a0429cfe81⋯.png (660.72 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, ce870b8e608a8cf12c7a919df9….png)

File: 812e8d5e1289a48⋯.jpg (564.99 KB, 1662x2048, 831:1024, mint_nappa Dko3g_aUcAAtES7….jpg)

File: 78e93ce3b8ccc1f⋯.jpg (58.37 KB, 466x700, 233:350, CVTmW9CUsAEVr8Q.jpg)

>>16673254

The DS Era was the the Golden Age.

The Main Line was pretty good (The 3rd Version, at least) and had the best library of Spin Offs.

The 3DS makes me sad, I think that XY where actually okay as Gen Starters (those always suck) and had lots of potential. Kalos really needed its "Platinum" but it never came. Alola had neat ideas but they where all implemented poorly or halfassed.


4383fd  No.16675585

File: db4914e146e7897⋯.gif (334.23 KB, 945x834, 315:278, eeveelutions.gif)

I forgot how beautiful the Crystal animated sprites looked. They all look 10 outta 10 and perfect. By comparison, I really can't stand the retarded derpiness of the Red and Blue sprites.


22f5c6  No.16675735

File: 35d326951897ed6⋯.jpg (518.18 KB, 700x475, 28:19, 39402875_p1.jpg)

>>16675181

>and they removed the battle tower for no good reason

That makes DVs even more pointless than they already are. Then it's even funnier that they are trying to market it like it's so much better than the alternatives because DVs this, egg moves that, when the one place that you may want to min-max for was removed.


8ad038  No.16675843

>>16675735

>what are Gym rebattles at their highest level

>what is the E4

>what is trading to RBY/GSC

>what is trading to Stadium/Stadium 2

The Battle Tower in Crystal was barebones anyway, it wasn't until Emerald we got a proper one.


60c1a7  No.16675852

File: ed8d41d32575ad7⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 56.6 KB, 320x320, 1:1, Togemonx.jpg)

Can one of you jolly folks answer a question on trading in DS games?

I'm pirating Platinum on the 3DS so I can play a rom hack. I want to trade with a physical card in a normal DS to make my Electabuzz evolve. I go to the local communication room and it doesn't detect the other console. Any tips?


1bb771  No.16675868

>>16675843

>what are Gym rebattles at their highest level

Easy EXP and money.

>what is the E4

A collection of gay OC's

>what is trading to RBY/GSC

For what purpose?

>what is trading to Stadium/Stadium 2

The only legitimate argument in favor of that shitheap. But you could just as well use gameshark in the vanilla game for tweaking purposes and skip the subversive tranny middleman.


932233  No.16676330

>>16673254

Celebi. If no legends then its a toss between Bulbasaur and Haunter.

Never played a romhack. Thinking of dumping an emulator or two on a phone to try some.


b9ded0  No.16676528

File: 06f42fa77361539⋯.png (5.94 KB, 168x168, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

File: d04dd1dfbcc3752⋯.png (8.81 KB, 320x288, 10:9, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 897de20db146ec4⋯.png (25.02 KB, 660x432, 55:36, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16675537

https://github.com/Rangi42/polishedcrystal/blob/master/FEATURES.md

It's outdated, but here's the official feature list.

The current version has a lot more stuff. Off the top of my head: varying pokemon color variations a-la stadium(magikarp being a special case, based on that mobile game), last gym leader pokémon music like in B/W, and sound test.

The only downside I can see on this hack is the fact that they had to remove some vanilla mons to open space for more relevant ones. I didn't remember that, it might be a big deal if you happen to like one of them.

Sprites look alright to me.


4486c1  No.16676566

>>16676528

Weren't they working on fucking around with the indexes so they could fit more than 256 slots in there? Or am I thinking of some Red disassembly?


60c1a7  No.16676567

>>16676528

removing perfectly good pokemon so you can add in your furry fetish shit with Eevees is already a red flag. Eevee was neat in first gen. Second gen sure but now it's just out of hand and stupid. Eevee doesn't need 15 evolutions. The original 3 was cool and made sense . Now if you lick it's asshole during a Tuesday near the space needle it evolves into Digimon type. Just too fucking much and every generation it fucks them over because they have to include more and more awkward ways to make it evolve.


b6e3f3  No.16676582

File: a7526551f79c3e0⋯.png (815.64 KB, 1198x1198, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f40584c971e54a4⋯.png (412.29 KB, 947x506, 947:506, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1bbba17f147a381⋯.png (761.6 KB, 892x576, 223:144, ClipboardImage.png)

File: ae5247ecf78499d⋯.gif (664.92 KB, 500x348, 125:87, dunsparce.gif)

>Favorite Mon

Dunsparce

>Favorite romhack

Never played any


956b64  No.16676641

>>16676567

I hate that they keep introducing new convoluted ways to make mons evolve. Or create infant versions of themselves when breeding. We're at a million held items, two hundred location specific evolutions that they need to come up excuses for including in ever subsequent game (well, not any more, now that they're started cutting) and fifty other gimmicks like leveling up while you hold the 3DS upside down. For some retarded reason they keep pretending that evolutions need to be consistent, meaning that they act like the evolution wasn't available because you didn't have the means to get it rather than because it didn't fucking exist in that game. They've already screwed that up anyway, with things like Lickitung and its evolution method. Stop adding more held items and just make breeding always result in a baby form if you have to add another baby form to an existing line.


b9ded0  No.16676655

>>16676566

Maybe, I haven't kept up with it.

>>16676567

Yeah, man I can't even think how we can live without Stantler, Aipom and the baby pokémon that need abnoxious and obscure breeding methods. Meanwhile, the eeveelutions are 3 of 17 added pokes that are all evos to pokemon that really benefit from evolutions, like misdreavus, murkrow, yanma and gligar.

Eevee is a fan favorite, and the way they did their adding and removing of pokémon, if a pokemon has a new evolution it either gets in the game, or the pokemon is removed and no new evo gets in, like lickitung and lickylicky and aipom and ambipom. They'd either add the new evos or remove eevee, and that would be the dumbest removal on their list if they did.

The only questionable decision there imo is Munchlax, that is also a meme useless baby pokémon. I'd rather they keep Delibird or Shuckle in favor of it.

Also, if you see normal eeveelutions sprites, not sexualized fanart, and think of them as furry fetish, then you've already been infected with the "big fur".


60c1a7  No.16676661

>>16676641

They fucked that in gen 1 where your Eevee just didn't care enough about you to evolve like it did in gen 2.

There's no good reason why Eevee couldn't use evolution stones, a long with a lot of others. They added a bunch of new stones and they barely got used.

>>16676655

I like Stantler and I like Aipom. Aipoms a pretty cool design in general. Just because you want to fuck a dog doesn't mean I don't enjoy slapping people with a monkey's ass tail.

>If you point out it's furries being furry then you're a furry

Neck yourself you queer.


b9ded0  No.16676709

>>16676661

I actually like Aipom's design too. But they'd also have to add it's awful looking evolution if they kept it. That's two slots for a pokémon that has a neat looking first stage, but almost no one uses. And Stantler would be one slot for a pokémon that absolutely no one uses.

>if there's a dog, it means it's there because people want to fuck it

There's more to life than furfaggotry, anon. Don't let it consume you.


22f5c6  No.16676811

>>16676567

>>16676661

You are literally the only one talking about fucking an eevee. Stop projecting and kill yourself instead.


60c1a7  No.16676833

>>16676811

>Kill yourself.


628ad7  No.16676852

>>16673264

Its spanish, not portuguese, you retard.


e29569  No.16677151

>>16673408

I haven't played a Pokemon game since Pearl, but lately I've gotten the urge so I downloaded an emulator.

Which is the better choice between B2 and W2?


b88566  No.16677181

File: 5e4001e534cbdcd⋯.png (14.36 KB, 137x80, 137:80, cream pokémon.png)

>>16677151

I'd recommend you play Black Blaze or Volt White first, they're good improvement hacks. B2W2 are sequels instead of the usual emerald/crystal rerelease too, so more reason to go through Black/White first


9df3f5  No.16677191

>>16676852

There's a difference?


60c1a7  No.16677223

>>16677212

Grimer and Muk.


8952e5  No.16677227

>>16677223

Yeah, I'd fuck them. They're original sludge husbando pokemon. So what?


f206aa  No.16677233

>>16677212

I don't even care about the new pokemon designs, I just wish these people could tolerate the existence of the older games without having to screech about muh bugs and muh speed crits. They never have any arguments against the more fundamental aspects like difficulty, map design or writing (the things people crticise in the new games), it's just autists getting upset about minor balance issues.

I don't give a shit if they don't like the old games, I just wish they'd shut the fuck up about it.


4486c1  No.16677253

>>16677233

Do I have to post my list of Gen 1 trainers from every route, and my sort of analysis of them? Because the map design causes a pretty big problem there. The "choose your path" thing fucks up the level curve a little, there's only a handful of optional areas at all, and because like 60 Pokemon were cut all the teams are super redundant (although I'm going to be honest I'm not sure that would have helped).


f206aa  No.16677307

>>16677253

>The "choose your path" thing fucks up the level curve a little

Yeah, a little. There's also the problem of there being nowhere to level up between Blaine and Giovanni, just pretty much have to grind. Fucked level curve is also a problem in Gen 2, where you'll outlevel all trainers past the 3rd gym in a game with 16 gyms. I'm not trying to claim the games are perfect, just better than their sequels.

>teams are super redundant

I think that's less to do with the smaller pool of pokemon and more because Game Freak deliberately limited the variety that trainers use. They had plenty of pokemon to work with, they just didn't use them. As an example, the bug catchers in Viridian Forest could have mixed in things like Venonat and Paras, but nope, it's entirely Caterpie and Weedle, and one Kakuna. Game Freak seemed to have an aversion to giving non gym leaders pokemon that you couldn't yet catch yourself, which severely limited teams. It's one of the reasons I think Gen 3 is better than Gen 1.


60c1a7  No.16677356

>>16677307

Pokemon is really complex, limiting the starting area to 10 or so basic pokemon is a good idea for people learning types. Introducing too many things at once is a good way to piss people off. And Those early pokemon are weaker as they evolve, they're supposed to be a stepping stone to better things. Venonat evolves into a good pokemon to match up with Scyther and Pinsir if you're looking for late game bug types. It also appears in victory cave and you don't want all your end game stuff to just be route 1 stuff evolved. Gen 1 has a few problems with geodudes and zubats being every where. Making distinct areas is important to make a player feel they are progressing.


a5bb7b  No.16677871

>>16673408

this is a pretty good list but I don't think the shit tear should even really exist, except for Let's Go

XY and Gen 7 are disappointing in many ways but it's not as though they completely fucked everything up like GF is doing on the Switch I'd put them in the okay tier


a5bb7b  No.16677904

>>16673932

>>16674037

Just play Perfect Crystal, simple improvement hack, you can catch all the mons, some sprites are uncensored, and levels are balanced to be like how they are in HGSS


b9ded0  No.16677914

>>16677904

see

>>16674171 and >>16674237

it's neat, but too basic imo

ctrl+f the thing you're gonna recommend next time


e52a4b  No.16677999

>>16676528

>>16676567

Wait, so PC doesn't just add pokemon, it removes some too?


f206aa  No.16678018

>>16677999

Yeah, there's only so many pokemon you can fit in so to add evos they had to remove some. As mentioned Stantler and Aipom are gone, off the top of my head I can remember that Spearow and Fearow are also absent.


f206aa  No.16678029

>>16677999

>>16678018

Oh wait, here's the full list:

>Added: Leafeon, Glaceon, Sylveon, Togekiss, Weavile, Honchkrow, Mismagius, Electivire, Magmortar, Magnezone, Tangrowth, Rhyperior, Porygon-Z, Yanmega, Gliscor, Mamoswine, and Munchlax.

>Removed: Spearow, Fearow, Lickitung, Goldeen, Seaking, Hoppip, Skiploom, Jumpluff, Shuckle, Aipom, Stantler, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Smoochum, and Delibird.

There's a similar case with moves, some were removed to make room for new ones.


011892  No.16678042

File: 1ff41ce513516e1⋯.png (982.14 KB, 1123x747, 1123:747, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16678029

Why would it remove those pokemon? Like Seaking. Why the fuck would they remove fucking SEAKING? And Jumpluff? Dude, this is such bullshit.


b9ded0  No.16678092

>>16678042

Who else would they remove?

Removing any pokémon is alrady bad, no matter what, so all they could do was select some that were either not very useful or that already had it's niche filled. There's already a shitton of water and plant pokémon, and I'm guessing those were the less popular ones.

>inb4 they should just not add the new evos

The goal is to have the mons in their most updated status, with typing, moves, abilities and also evos. Not having their baby forms was just another compromise (again, I do think munchlax was a stupid addition). Having to remove some mons was just the price to pay, unfortunately.

Apparently according to some anon they were trying to expand the slots for pokemon in the hack just to bring those guys back, so there's that.


e1ee42  No.16678123

>>16677223

>grimer and muk, basic and not over designed slime monsters made from pollution

>Nupokenigger: OMGZ DIS DESIGN SO BAWD WHERE R THE BELTS AND HIPS AND WAIFU BEWBS?! SUM 1 GIVE THESE TO TETSUYA NOMURA TO REDESIGN STAT!!1!


3bcedf  No.16678144

File: 75414c21b28631f⋯.jpg (320.29 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpg)

Objectively superior taste coming through. Everything is heresy perpetrated by gays.

>>16678123

Who the fuck types like that in an argument anymore? Go back to 2004 you fucking teenaged girl.


e52a4b  No.16678267

>>16678029

I like Fearow;, but if you HAD to remove mons, that does seem like the ideal list of ones to drop.


f206aa  No.16678296

File: 8dff3686bfd5415⋯.jpg (328.91 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, pokes.jpg)

>>16678144

>Breloom

>Sableye

>Flygon

Some pretty good shit there, I guess you-

<Electivire

Nope, shit taste. Take a look at my actual superior taste.


c1cab0  No.16678330

File: cf721d72bfcf19b⋯.jpg (328.99 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpg)

>>16678144

>>16678296

All pretty top taste anons


8952e5  No.16678342

File: 96b3ce722a304e1⋯.png (66.72 KB, 220x220, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)


a5bb7b  No.16678402

File: d5628e572b115d4⋯.gif (321.48 KB, 250x250, 1:1, dancing orc.gif)

>>16677914

>ctrl+f the thing you're gonna recommend next time

_n_o_


04b0c5  No.16678417

>>16673254

>original 251

fuck off zoomer, the original is 151


c58ca7  No.16678432

File: 86f048a13ef6669⋯.gif (3.09 MB, 400x200, 2:1, 86f048a13ef6669021a74d4734….gif)

>>16678144

>has no argument

>defaults to adhoms


7be277  No.16678489

>>16673254

>Brobat

<Haven't played enough ROM hacks to pick a favorite.

Sigma Emerald was nice with gen6 mechanics and reusable TMs, but changing level up moves was annoying to get used to, giving the starters their hidden abilities was outright broken, and I fucking hate Fairy type.

FireRed Omega was alright. It changed the starters and upped their stats to compensate for being weaker than the other starters, pokemon levels in encounters and battles are scaled up, and started you off with the National Dex. (Great for those who like Zubat and get stuck with the … stopped evolving message because of friendship pre-national dex.) Unfortunately, the professor aide rewards are still only given based on the Pokemon you caught in the Kanto dex. (No, national dex Pokemon don't count. I tried) Because the 2 regions that don't count towards that total now make up roughly 2/3 of encounters, the already tedious rewards are now 3x worse. Also, because you're given the National Dex early on, you can start doing post-game content before beating the Elite 4. I figured this would be a good place to grind because the Elite 4 was about 10 levels ahead of me (6x vs 7x), but I did too much post-game content and then had to fight an Elite 4 about 15 levels ahead of me (7x vs 9x) after grinding despite having never beaten them yet. It was partially my fault for forgetting that the Elite 4 gets stronger post-game, but it was still frustrating to deal with the stronger Elite 4 team on my first time facing them due to an oversight. (I'm not sure if it was just the Lorelei quest or the RS quest that changed the Elite 4, but if you skip them you should be fine if you want to train in the Sevii islands first.)

Both ROMs are designed to catch everything in 1 game. They added new areas or added legendaries/mythical to existing areas based on their theme.

I've downloaded Crystal Clear and Perfect Crystal, but haven't gotten around to playing them yet.


7be277  No.16678515

>>16673270

2 = 3 > 4 > 1 = 5 > shit > 6 > 7

>gen 2 and 3 offered a lot of exploration

>Kanto was barren in GSC but completing it after the E4 still gave more playtime

>pretty good for first post-game outside of completing the dex

>RSE has the most secrets of any Pokemon game to date

<would have ranked higher if its events were used or distributed more frequently

>half the events were in Braille, you had to figure stuff out without handholding

>also silky smooth 60 FPS and no loading gates

>DP brought slowdowns but the region was really nice I'm a sucker for mountains and snow

>battle mechanics were improved a lot (phys/special split)

>introduced online play

>RBY had a lot of noticeable glitches during gameplay and questionable design choices (special for both attk/def, 100 acc moves missing, soft lock in cinnabar, etc)

>still good for what it was, can't be too hard on the first in the series

>BW had some great improvements with seasons, new moves and abilities, auto-repel in BW2

>fixed all slowness from DP

<awful pokemon designs held back the generation

<linear design and lack of exploration made the areas more forgettable

>still fun to play through, especially in BW2 with a better roster available to play with

>first game to add a challenge mode

<requires someone else with a completed save first to unlock

<restarting deletes the challenge key

>gen6/7 are just garbage

<too many cutscenes and tutorials

<too fucking easy

<game gives you stuff when you don't need it just to make sure you won't ever struggle

<models look awful

<so poorly optimized that frame dips are nearly unavoidable

<gen7 kept all the same performance issues from gen6

>Wonder Trade is actually a great idea (in theory)

>really nice if you want to give away Pokemon without expecting anything back

<don't expect anything back, 95% of it is people tossing the region's equivalent of Rattata (at least you can ignore those faggots in GTS)


9af719  No.16678536

File: e407fc80687324c⋯.jpg (319.63 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, 04fca1e1b5f441cb594825757e….jpg)

5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 7 > 6 > 1


9e7ead  No.16678541

File: 9627a6c7f1f0687⋯.gif (258.08 KB, 268x199, 268:199, 1440380504576.gif)

>>16678536

>grass

>nu-owl

stopped looking there


9af719  No.16678545

>>16678541

What's your favourite Grass-type?


f65646  No.16678571

File: 72973be60890547⋯.jpg (322.08 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, 12b18660d8b7c16cac3fa83c1f….jpg)

>>16678536

>6 > 1

I'd argue yellow is much better than ORAS or XY.

blue i can't be sure on, i haven't played that game legit in like ten years; though it might actually function as a game unlike those


60c1a7  No.16678883

>>16678092

You don't remove Goldeen either way. It's an iconic water pokemon. There are much better removals like Taurus, Mr. Mime, Mankey line, even the Ledyba line which I like. But a better idea is to just not add all the evolutions to these things. Most of them are shit and serve no purpose. And adding Muchlax when you remove other babies is just fan wank


011892  No.16678900

>>16678545

He won’t say, he just wants to act contrarian and derail threads.


9de1c7  No.16679003

File: 451db233f94a3f3⋯.jpg (332.27 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, pokemontypefav.jpg)

megas are for fags


9de1c7  No.16679051

!rank Regular Oink is the enter code for the crystal clear trannycord: xmTXhtV


b9ded0  No.16679220

File: a2a8f1ad84dee08⋯.png (55.82 KB, 722x511, 722:511, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16678883

>iconic water pokémon

>the fish everyone skips because it's just a fish

>pure type of the most common type, with no special gimmick

>two stages

<In place of the male counterpart of miltank and another mon

<in place of the actually unique and rare typed on gen 2 Mr.Mime and another mon

<in place of the mankey line, only pure fighters other than the machamp line and hitmon line, poliwrath and heracross being the only others with the figthing type as secondary.

<instead of one of the coolest pokémon to get in early game gen2


60c1a7  No.16679273

>>16679220

Golden is the geodude of the ocean man. Pokemon without a goldeen and magikarp infestation just isn't pokemon.

Miltank can fuck off too. It's just budget chansey.


f65646  No.16679279

>>16679273

Nobody cares about Goldeen.


22d370  No.16679284

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>>16678571

That's understandable but Gen 6's QoL features are pretty nice even though it doesn't really save the generation.

>>16678900

All he had to do is say Gen 7 is the best gen or something if he wants to pull the contrarian schtick.


60c1a7  No.16679288

>>16679279

I care about Goldeen.


f65646  No.16679294

>>16679288

Okay then hitler.

On a actual note though, Miltank is probably more "distinct" now that i think about it.

It probably deserves to stick around due to notoriety, its not really chansey outside of the "tank" thing; miltank is fast and not skewed.


a5bb7b  No.16679326

>>16679294

miltank is actually much more like tauros than chansey, the only thing that's really similar to chansey is Milk Drink and Soft-Boiled functioning in an identical way


f206aa  No.16679337

>>16679294

Yeah, Miltank has an important status as Whitney's steamrolling machine, I wouldn't want it gone. Mr. Mime is pretty unique too. I can't defend Munchlax though, it's not even available before the elite four without abusing wonder trade which is the only justification I could think of for its presence.


b9ded0  No.16679347

>>16679337

>can't defend Munchlax though

The only reason I can think for it being there is as a proof of concept of being able to add pre-evos.

I'd still have Delibird or Shuckle instead of it, though.


60c1a7  No.16679362

>>16679294

Tanky normal type who people only remember because no one knew WTF Roll out did the first time they met it and couldn't kill it fast enough.

You already have Chansey and Snorlax performing the normal tanky types.

>>16679337

Being unique isn't a justification for keeping it. Suudowoodo is unique and fucking terrible, but it's useful for the path blocking, which I appreciate. Where as stuff like Mr Mime and Girafarig don't really serve a purpose. They appear so rarely in the game that losing them changes very little.

>>16679347

I like delibird but it needs an evolution. Shuckle is a faggot but he's a useful faggot who deserves a tank slot for his unique typing and stalling tactics. Which aren't super common back then.

Pre-evos is easy to do, same mechanics as a 2-3 gen evolution.

Cut Jigglypuff or Clefairy. You free up 2 slots and they are interchangable. I'd be more prone to cutting Jiggly because Clefairy has metronome , but Jiggly is way more iconic so it can go either way


d93767  No.16679378

>>16679362

>You already have Chansey and Snorlax performing the normal tanky types.

So what, none of those are the same archtype.

>slow special tank

>slow special tank with offensive abilities

Neither of those archtypes are miltank. Its a fast physical tank. This is the equivalent of cutting zangoose because slaking and Exploud exists.


60c1a7  No.16679431

>>16679378

Could cut all 3 of those faggots and lose nothing of value.


e9fb5f  No.16679438

>>16679431

>disrespecting slaking

Everything but slaking is pretty non-memorable but the point still stands; Zangoose wouldn't get cut for that reason.

Unless you seriously want to push that.


60c1a7  No.16679445

>>16679438

Loudred is more memorable than slaking because it has that mine area where you can't avoid them. Like Goldeen, Magikarp, Geodude, Ratata and Sentret I'd say it's generation defining.


e9fb5f  No.16679463

>>16679445

Well he's a hint, i don't remember that section in the slightest.

Slaking is a gym mon with an odd gimmick, which i remember more than a dungeon gimmick or whatever the fuck you're talking about because i can't remember what the hell it is.

How the fuck is goldeen gen defining?


f206aa  No.16679475

>>16679445

>>16679463

I'm pretty sure you could only catch Goldeen by fishing, which most people didn't do much of. Nodbody cares about Goldeen because they just didn't encounter it often unless they went out of their way to fish loads.


60c1a7  No.16679517

>>16679475

Goldeen appears constantly when you surf along side tentacool and magikarp who just gives bad exp and wastes your time.


c5d3bf  No.16679551

Guys I need a ROM hack that removes story barriers from Emerald to make it open world. Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby is fine aswell.


6d200d  No.16680005

Your time is over, grandpa. These have been remade with all the better mechanics, graphics, storyline, and music.


c0a7bb  No.16680082

>>16674632

region is shit ill give you that but bw2 fixed it

>who cares about fucking plot in a pokemon

alot of fucking people apparently.

music from b/w is some of the best in pokemon games


67356c  No.16680383

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>>16680005

You absolute moron.


40327a  No.16680528

>Favorite Pokemon

Clefairy/Jynx

>Favorite Romhack

I don't really play romhacks of this gen.

>think about pre-evolutions

>Smoochum only provides to benefit of learning Charm and Kiss moves

If Sweet Kiss is a kiss on the cheek, is Lovely Kiss a kiss in the mouth?


40327a  No.16680530

>>16679273

Nah, that's Tentacool.


adc705  No.16680532

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e52a4b  No.16680585

>>16680383

he's 100% right though

there's not a single thing RB does better then FRLG, and HGSS is arguably the single best pokemon game in the entire franchise, with even more added content over GSC then FRLG did to RB.

The only arguable thing is that since GSC's visuals still holds up decently and there's a specifc stylization to it's sprites, it can be argued that HGSS loses some of that aeshetic (RBY just looks like shit in general)


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ec4304  No.16680622

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>it's the CC autist again

wew fucking lad

>unironically liking pre attack split

>everything after the gen I grew up with is bad!!!

Not to mention there's already one pokemon thread (and a bunch of others for specific pokemon stuff) but OP had to post this one to make sure everyone knows about the romhack.

>>16674273

It's the same guy every time, with the same filenames and arguments. If it's actually a group, then it's even more retarded. Most of the problems have been explained already, but if constant shilling and open world meme doesn't raise red flags for you, the devs are waiting on trapcord


dbd08b  No.16680690

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This took me longer than I expected


6d200d  No.16680698

>>16680690

Why did you do this?


4b4556  No.16680712

File: f4377fac3b8547a⋯.jpg (311.05 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpg)

I like CC for its features (follow poke, open world, custom protag and fresh start). If other romhacks implemented this, I'm open to suggestions.


6d200d  No.16680715

>>16680712

Why do you people do this? Is anyone going to study, comment on, or recall your favorite pokemon of each type?


ec4304  No.16680727

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Forgot to add

>who cares about the split lmao / it sucks

This goes for this guy in particular, the rest of the romhack trapcord and every other nostalgia fag because it gets brought up too frequently (more than one dude is already too many).

Half of the pokemon get handicapped or completely neutered by pre split. Pokemons with big attack stat can't utilize it because their type is special (and most of them lacked physical moves added later on, like flare blitz for fire). Same thing for special attackers, but in fewer numbers. Not having the split (and extra attacks, but that's not as important) is just detrimental for the game. Making a romhack and not adding it is just lazy at best, unironic nostalgia retarded at worst.

If you enjoy it because that's what you burned into your brain as a kid and change scares your autistic mind, more power to you, but defending it over something that objectively improves the game is pretty dumb.

Also I did the thing

>>16680712

I'm almost sure pokemon outside of battles are about the first feature to be added into every gen 2 romhack, but the rest are rare

>>16680715

Because it's fun


4b4556  No.16680729

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>>16680715

Why do people post their decisions on CYOA? It's fun.


a1296e  No.16680830

>>16680082

>music from b/w is some of the best in pokemon game

this, that music when you got a low hp, fucking god, it's just glorious, they turned a angry pitifyl noise into a magnificient glorious music that made you press your ass thight cause shits gonna get real.


b9a181  No.16680872

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Gen5 has some underrated pokemon.


f234e9  No.16680891

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OMABRO 4 LYFE

I havent played many hax, usually because it's fille with meme/edgelord shit. But Pokemon Prism seems pretty cool if you don't mind the Sound and Gas types.


4383fd  No.16680894

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yo. came to post this


e52a4b  No.16680904

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File: 49132a90f4f1c52⋯.png (323.04 KB, 1089x892, 1089:892, top 10 per type wip.png)

I agree with >>16680715: doing these charts is useless without actually talking about WHY you like each pokemon or ask other people questions about their tastes.

I'll put my money where my mouth is: Here's why I like my top 10 mons

>Sneasel

I love, love monster designs with large arms/hands and huge claws (hence Zangoose being as high as it is) and sneasel itself is a fantasttic combination of fierce and cute. Ice, while not my favorite elemental type, is one of favorites in most typical video game/fantasy settings. The Asymmetry of him also looks neat. From a gameplay persoetive, I also tend to like fast, death-of-a-thousand-cuts sot of stuff in most games, which also fits well here

If I lived in the Pokemon world, Sneasel is who i would have on my shoulder, not in a Pokeball

>Giratina

Absolutly killer design, manages to really look the part of a demonic, otherwordly monster without explicitly looking demonic or just being a mass of tentacles (I like Arceus for similar reasons: it manages to look cesestial and "holy" without just being an angel or an alien). From a lore perspective, how it seamlessly has dex entries, species names, ettc tthat both tie into it being a satanic archtype but also a represeentation of anti-matter is also cool ( for instance the "violence" it was banished for is anti-matter's explosive reactions with normal matter)

I also really like the idea of portals and alternate dimensional bullshit as an powerset, it's probably my single favorite fictional power.

>Haunter

My original gen 1 favorite alongside Nidoking back in the day (I have scyther ahead of nidoking but they are more really tied, I need to update it), I love it's spikey apperance and jagged mouth and it's disembodied hands, espeecially in some of it's TCG art it just looked super threatening. There's also a bit of a personal connection but I can't clarify withoug giving away more IRL info then I want to share.

>Scyther

It's a raptor-mantis with sword arms, what more do I have to say? Also ties into what I said about liking fast, multiple hit stuff, and liking blade/claw themed monsters

>Nidoking/Drapion

So I said that while ice isn't my favorite generic element in fictioon, it's up there, poison is my ACTUAL favorite element (not counting portal bullshit, which isn't really an "element") Nidoking was probably my favorite pokemon design as a kid, especially wiith it's early sugi artwork having it be super spiny and prickly. Justt a big, generic spiny, horned, poisonous monster was and is cool to me, especiially as a kid super into dinosaurs and godzilla, he's basically just a fucking kaiju. Also, while he doesn't havee big claws, he does have rather largee arms, and the mental image of him just swinging his arms around to hit shit or grappling with them or tail swiping is pretty cool.

Most of the above also appliees to drapion: Scorpions are some of my favorite animals, and the mental image of him just using his longass arms and tail to grapple shit is so cool.

>Skarmory

If you can't tell by now my tastes are pretty suited to "generically badass", and Skarmory just looks like a fucking mean, dangerous animal, which is great. Steel/metal as a type/element is something i'm intto just as much as ice, and the idea that it can just run around like a prehistoric terror bird murdering shit or shooting it's feathers like throwing knives is great

>Dragalge

Beyond being poison type, which is an added bonus, his design is just "alright". But skrelp is fantastically designed, and it's shiny, with it's bright lime green, blueish purple, and cyan is pretty much my favorite combination of colors.

>Groyvle/Rayquaza

Green is my favorite color alongside purple, and Rayquaza just being a giantass aztec-esque green dragon, alone puts it pretty up there. Goyvle is up there for the same reason scyther is: Blade armed raptor, though I think when I update the chart, I'll remove groyvle from the top 10, as I don't think I like it as much as Rayquaza, Magmortqar, or jolteon anymore.

>Magmortar

I originally hated Magmortar when it came out, but it's grown on me. It's basically a crazy, evil clown with cannons for arms, and that's pretty fucking cool. I also liked Magmar as a kid, who now I think seems dumb, and Magmorttar improves on what made Magmar good, while getting rid of it's bad elements.

>Jolteon

Electricity is another element I really like, but most Electric pokemon don'tt appeal to mee: jolteon is an exception, though back in the day I thought it was cool, but not a top favorite, but over time he's grown on me a lot.. Conceptually, it haviing spikey, electrical fur is too this day one of the most creative concepts in the type, the fact it can fire them off even cooler.


f206aa  No.16680910

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>>16680894

>Megas and legendaries everywhere


0e56ac  No.16680913

>>16678417

this right here familycom


4383fd  No.16680938

>>16680910

well yeah. alpha sapphire is tied with white 1 as my favorite pokemon game. it has all the megas from x & y + added a few hoenn-exclusive megas. i love how the mega evolution concept has beefed up many of my old childhood favorites

the legendary pokemon are because i liked them a lot in the movies


bf592c  No.16680959

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It's the truth.


98aa9a  No.16680990

>>16675537

>XY is still blatently a better game then something like GS.

no way fag

I could see a case that every game from 1 to 5 was an improvement on the previous (which I would disagree with but it's viable if you use that kind of "muh features" criterion) but every game of the 3DS era and beyond is hot trash


4383fd  No.16681028

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>>16680990

>every game of the 3DS era and beyond is hot trash

>every

x/y, sun/moon, & ultra sun/moon weren't as good as white/black 1. i will give you that.

but how can you say that about alpha/omega?! it has one of the most emotionally satisfying stories and characters in the whole series! i'm jaded as fuck but this great game still tugged at my heartstrings!


6d4337  No.16681074

>>16674650

>>16680082

Its a gen1-3 thread and i talked about gen 5

Apology was for helping hijacking, look at the thread now, its all about arguing gens now when thread couldve been more focused. I dont give a shit about bans

>music is some of the best

Lol no all battle themes sucked except legendaries, theres like 2 good route and town themes


6d4337  No.16681078

>>16681074

Also vs team plasma was an alright theme


8db94f  No.16681083

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>>16681028

>story in a pokémon main title


a5bb7b  No.16681084

>>16681028

ORAS is hated just because they didn't put the Battle Frontier in from emerald, Steven gives you a Mega Lati@s relatively early in the game if you want to use it, and the Game Corner's been cancelled since gen 5

Yes, those are seriously the only three reasons that ORAS is the most hated game in the series (besides nostalgia goggles), despite being a decent game on par with most other entries in the series.


8952e5  No.16681092

I dont see how people can argue that modern games are any good.

Look at Gen 5, Gen 6. You had a event only thing for Zoroark which can never be legitimately caught in game now. You have spots in postgame to evolve Leafeon and Glaceon. Irrelevant one-off evolution held items are acquired via battle subway. You had a fucking ocean ruin to explore, just for Arceus held items and his legendaries.

The only way to get him was via transfer so why not just let transferred mons hold a fucking item

Why did they do and stat a million hidden abilities for dream forest only to kill it next gen? The wiki still has contest data for new mons even though contests dont exist anymore. Gen 6 is just as bad, why have ingame achievements and dressup just to cut it again?

Its all so fucking baffling and angering


b94c7a  No.16681096

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>>16681092

my favrite is pickachu


a5bb7b  No.16681106

>>16681092

>Why did they do and stat a million hidden abilities for dream forest only to kill it next gen?

Nearly all of those abilities are attainable now, they were just made attainable through different means.

>You had a event only thing for Zoroark which can never be legitimately caught in game now

You mean like Mew or Celebi or Deoxys or Darkrai or Manaphy…

This is a practice that has been around since the very first Pokémon games. You can still cheat to activate the events very easily. In fact, Zoroark is probably the worst example of something like this, since you had two in-game events to get it in BW, and it wasn't even a legendary, so it could be bred and traded without any issues.

>The only way to get him was via transfer

and a dreamworld event given out to every player who could connect to the internet

>Irrelevant one-off evolution held items are acquired via battle subway.

Diamond and Pearl were way worse, they gave certain Pokémon new evolutions and didn't even give players a way to obtain them unless they had Battle Revolution or a gen 3 game.


8952e5  No.16681134

>>16681106

Except Zoroark wasnt legendary and became catchable as a regular pokemon the very next game.

I didnt have a home network at the time when that game came out. I didn't live in a city and we only had satellite internet, which was USB and had specific software, so there was no wireless network or hotspot for my DS to connect to.

Oh, and gen 6 had at least 4 empty caves that were used in events. Why would they not use existing places and instead design a conspicuous setpiece for each? Annoying.


4383fd  No.16681141

>>16681084

>no battle frontier

so hoenn's Battle Maison doesn't count or something? each gen has had different Frontier Brains for you to take on. even heartgold shares the same exact battle facility as the d/p/pt games. likewise, all gen 6 games share the same battle facility as well. the Battle Maison and Battle Chatelaines.

emerald: hoenn's frontier brains

diamond/heartgold: sinnoh's frontier brains

black: subway bosses

x / omega: battle chatelaines

sun: battle legends

>early lati@s

and? getting a legendary early before the elite four isn't unusual. in most games, you'll encounter a legendary with a master ball in hand before you take on the champion.

the eon flute and flying sections were also great additions! they eliminated the need to put Fly on an hm slave. this feature would later be expanded in sun/moon, which had designated pokemon to help you fly and surf. you don't have to carry around a useless hm slave anymore.

you can thank Lati@s for that

>no gambling

so? the censorship of gambling minigames didn't start with gen 5. it started with heartgold/soulsilver and many anons here still love those remakes


798a17  No.16681198

>>16673675

>>16673675

>>16673675

This garbage ruined pokemon.


22f5c6  No.16681339

>>16681141

Battle Maison is just Battle Tower, the most barebones part of the Battle Frontier. And of course they copy paste that from XY instead of bringing back the Frontier in a shitty remake of the gen that actually introduced it.


c14809  No.16681408

>>16681084

>despite being a decent game on par with most other entries in the series.

It has a main game on par with XY; in other words its manages to be below fucking average in the main game, the main game is worthlessly bad in other words.

It tones down the difficulty of the original and adds the XY share along with it.as in they nerfed trainers and added a broken tool

The reason why the latis don't help its case is because its a free mega luke like mon again.

The average pokemon game is not good, but ORAS is not average; its a story bloated piss easy slog with little post game but one of the shittiest stories in a pokemon game.


66fdb9  No.16681667

What's the latest version of Polished Crystal?


067de5  No.16681689

2 > 1 > 3 > I stopped paying attention to pokemon after that. I recently tried black/white and dropped it after 2 hours. I can't believe how fucking hand holdy that shit was and the story was the most fucktarded tree hugging hippie shit I've ever seen. Then I read that sun/moon was universally panned but people somehow think sword/shield will be good.

Was HeartGold any good? I might try some a remake or remaster, whatever the fuck the marketing term is these days. I don't play competitive so idgaf about natures or ev/iv and whatever autismal filler shit they've added.


f206aa  No.16681888

>>16681084

I also agree with >>16681408

I don't even care about the battle frontier or game corner and I still hate ORAS. It turned up the story and turned down the difficulty which turns the whole game into a snoozefest. Not to mention the constant handholding kills any sense of adventure which is something Hoenn was really good at. Aside from mechanical updates, which you can already get through romhacks, ORAS makes no improvements over the originals.

>>16681689

HeartGold is good, it adds some extra areas and somewhat fixes the retarded level curve, though I think the music and artstyle are worse than the originals. Gen 2 is still the best in that regard.


fb2b7e  No.16683573

I never played gen 2, but was thinking of giving it a go. Should I play Crystal vanilla, Crystal modded, or HG/SS?


b7ea43  No.16683585

>>16683573

HG/SS or Crystal with a romhack that adds QOL features. Depends on which aesthetic you prefer.


e52a4b  No.16683590

>>16680904

whoops, meant to quote >>16680715 here

>>16681084

>>16681141

>>16681408

>>16681888

>It has a main game on par with XY; in other words its manages to be below fucking average in the main game

Except that's litterally wrong. The main game of XY or ORAS is pretty objectively better then for RBY, GSC, the original RSE, and DP at least, which would put them at least right in the middle of the series, only below arguably Platinum, HGSS, BW, BW2, and SM and USM.

i
The only reason you say "below average" is because you aren't actually comparing them to the other games, but how impressive ORAS and XY are relative to how impressive they could be given tthe hardware they released on and how much better PT, HGSS, etc were in cxomparsion.

The problem with XY and ORAS aren't that they are bad, it's that they are dissapointing and could have been much better. see >>16675537

>>16680990

Justify how the main game of XY is worse then the main game of GS, considering XY has better presentation, a wider variety of pokemon, way more quality of life features, a wider variety of moves and items, the physical special split, the PSS, super training, amie, etc.


1389f4  No.16683641

File: 8b837323245b712⋯.jpg (1.46 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, (YOU).jpg)

>>16673869

i like this one better


c14809  No.16683879

>>16683590

>muh pogaymans, muh features

Thats not the main game, the main game is the trainers; as in the things you actually need to fight to beat the game.

XY and ORAS fails at that level, something only gen 1 really shares.


e52a4b  No.16683898

>>16683879

>Thats not the main game, the main game is the trainers; as in the things you actually need to fight to beat the game.

What the fuck does this even mean, that the only thing that matters for the quality of the main game is the enemy trainers and their teams and that's it? That's fucking retarded.


c14809  No.16683913

>>16683898

Yes it is much more important to the main game than the other factors.

The entire true main game is the trainers, thats all you're forced to fight 99% of the time.

The main game does not matter if this part is bad, more mons and features are merely toppings.; they can make a good or decent meal better but can't save a bad one.


e52a4b  No.16683959

>>16683913

Like, i'm not gonna site here and claim that XY's trainers aren't casualized, because that'd be dishonest, but in practice they really just have less mons, and considering that none of the NPC trainers in prior games were a real challenge either, it's arguably that all XY is really doing is cutting down the grind.

Anyways your assertion that that's all that matters is fucking moronic. Access to new moves, new gimmicks like amie, quality of life shit like multiple registration buttons, etc matters a lot.


c14809  No.16683979

>>16683959

The difference between gen 6 and other gens NPC trainers is that it doesn't even muster up any resistance; making the main game painfully boring.

>Anyways your assertion that that's all that matters is fucking moronic.

Okay then explain to me how the main game isn't what matters to the main game.

Dexnav isn't what your forced to fight through to get access to more shit.


f206aa  No.16684280

>>16683959

>Access to new moves, new gimmicks like amie, quality of life shit like multiple registration buttons, etc matters a lot

Not really, that's all just polish. The actual core of the game is fighting trainers and exploring the region, and gen 6 fails at both of those.

Why do you think people played games in the past before they had all those extra features? It's not because people in the 80s and 90s didn't know any better, it's because the games were fun in spite of how primitive they were.


b6e3f3  No.16684343

>>16676664

>Why?

Because it's cute


1353c1  No.16684656

>>16673408

>>16673408

Put B2/W2 in great tier and I can approve


a5bb7b  No.16684691

>>16681408

I don't know exactly what you're referring to with "broken tool," but pretty much all trainers were buffed slightly from the original games. And some trainers were extensively buffed for the post-game, such as Wally and the Elite Four.


7417d3  No.16684762

File: 8514521f86e6fc9⋯.jpg (734.08 KB, 2736x882, 152:49, nerfs.jpg)

>>16684691

The mystery tool is megas and nu-exp share.

>but pretty much all trainers were buffed slightly from the original games

Say that to the early game. The trainers were buffed because there was more shit to go through from what i remember, its a jump because they added more things; not a actual difficulty bump like say emerald.


6d200d  No.16684847

>>16684762

>encore and yawn on a truant mon

What were they thinking?


80720e  No.16684932

File: d4aa1d73687e594⋯.jpeg (83.64 KB, 1300x957, 1300:957, C401DF49-60A6-47CC-8645-4….jpeg)

>>16681141

If i see another exclamation mark i will fury nut


1f8893  No.16684941

>>16684656

why, anything wrong about it?


f6da7c  No.16685072

File: f4b0319afaa11b7⋯.jpg (330.36 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpg)


a5bb7b  No.16685163

File: 4cb34eece9e14e6⋯.jpg (69.31 KB, 577x498, 577:498, wally team.jpg)

>>16684762

>megas and nu-exp share

You know, you don't have to use those though. Complaining about them is like complaining about how recent Mario and Donkey Kong games giving you the ability to play through levels as an invincible palette-swapped character. It's an optional feature meant for kids who are bad at games.

It is unfortunate that early game levels were lowered, but in the later game the levels were raised.


f206aa  No.16685400

>>16685163

>but in the later game the levels were raised

That's because there are more trainers in the game, so the player gains more levels. The overall difficulty is still lower than the originals, and definitely lower than Emerald.


7be277  No.16687688

File: 9dafbbe7ad48d40⋯.png (748.65 KB, 1030x1240, 103:124, my_poke_fav.png)

Here's an old chart I made for /vp/ back in gen 5. I hated gen6+, so I don't see a reason to use a chart with Fairy. Crobat is my top favorite, followed by (in no particular order) Lugia, Weavile, Latias, and Empoleon for top 5.

>>16679220

What the hell happened to ice? It used to be ghost and dragon were the least common types.


a5bb7b  No.16687764

>>16685400

If you're really desperate for a challenge there still are places to find it though, like ORAS' E4 rematches. Theoretically speaking if you beat the Elite 4 normally and felt they weren't a challenge the very first thing you should do in ORAS is go back and challenge them again. After you beat them once they become the strongest Elite 4 of any game.


f206aa  No.16687832

>>16687688

>It used to be ghost and dragon were the least common types

Dunno why ghost jumped up, but with dragon it's because they have add five new dragon legendaries every gen.

>>16687764

>The entire game is mind-numbingly easy to the point of boredom

>But it's okay because the Elite Four are tough

Four battles cannot redeem an entire game.


512adb  No.16687855

File: 6eee43c24f864a2⋯.jpg (100.85 KB, 1129x1200, 1129:1200, epsxe.jpg)

>>16674653

That's not thicc that's obese


dd9f56  No.16687869

File: 3bc542652080569⋯.jpg (321.72 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpg)

Hurr durr, muh 1996 black nd white RBY bettr thn modern technology games with objectively better gameplay.

Here's my favorites


f75ed8  No.16687871

File: 9d14913a6d7f9c7⋯.png (1.11 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, accidentally fucking used ….png)


8ad038  No.16688163

Best gen 2 romhacks from best to worst

1. Crystal Clear 2.0 BETA (the non-nigger'd version)

2. Perfect Crystal (just vanilla Crystal but with all 251 available)

3. Polished Crystal (changes core mechanics to include nu-gen stuff, also furry bait)


7b505c  No.16688174

>>16687855

>cuckchanneler can't into non-wojack memes


8ad038  No.16688236

File: c0d5e2a8ee95bcf⋯.png (1.2 MB, 1360x746, 680:373, favorites.png)

>>16687869

Does this trigger you?


0c5c75  No.16688262

>>16688236

it only triggers me because your taste in grass fire psychic, ground, flying, and steel are shit, even for gen 1 and gen 2.


8ad038  No.16688324

>>16688262

>Bayleef

The gen 2 starter that easily takes care of Whitney's Miltank whereas the chinese rat and flintstone croc get their ass annihilated by the cow.

>Growlithe

OG Fire Dog badass police K9.

>Slowking

Mad because it's not Alakazam or Mewtwo?

>Cubone

Literally me. The cutest Pokémon with an emotional background. Its evolution makes it more badass but less cute.

>Farfetch'd

Ultimate end-game utility mon with FLY, CUT, False Swipe for catching and Thief to get rare items.

Get on my level.

>Magneton

Steelix has retarded teeth, Scizor is edgy. Forretress is forgettable. It was either Magneton or Skarmory, and Magneton is cooler in my objective and superior opinion


a56cd0  No.16688425

>>16688324

>Scizor is edgy

How? He's too round to be edgy.


a5bb7b  No.16688452

>>16688163

it's inaccurate to say perfect crystal is "just" Crystal with all 251 mons since there are many other small but great changes, such as reuseable TMs, uncensored sprites, restoration of the GS Ball event, balance changes for trainer levels, and a few other minute changes I can't recall.


a5bb7b  No.16688460

>>16687832

Game isn't any less difficult than RS (which aren't even hard anyway). If it is, then really prove it. Megas and EXP Share are handicaps for kids. Also being an eight-year old retard is not an excuse for why RS was harder for you ORAS.


48336e  No.16688461

>>16688324

>not trading a worthless abra for a machop to lolshrek the miltank


24a1a0  No.16688473

Pokemon has always been shit and never will be better.


4d2de5  No.16688505

>>16687869

>1996 black nd white RBY bettr thn modern technology games with objectively better gameplay.

We know that genwunning is retarded, but that doesn't mean you have to say it using the perspective of a normalkike.


06c245  No.16688524

No Probopass liking goys here?


a56cd0  No.16688527

>>16688524

What is there to like about it?


06c245  No.16688550

>>16688527

I thought it was obvious that it is a literal happy merchant.


a56cd0  No.16688605

>>16688550

I thought you meant you actually liked the pokemon.


1f8893  No.16688618

>>16688550

I got good news for you >>16688084


9d830a  No.16688775

>>16688163

You can shill all you want, but Crystal Clear is never gonna be a good romhack. It's a novelty at best

>>16688324

>The gen 2 starter that easily takes care of Whitney's Miltank whereas the chinese rat and flintstone croc get their ass annihilated by the cow.

I never understood the people that said Whitney's Miltank was hard. I've never at trouble with it regardless which starter I picked, you had too many options available to you for your starters to deal with it at that point. You don't even need to grind.


53a9ac  No.16688799

>>16688775

Whitney's Miltank used attract which meant if your Pokemon were male it would be helpless as she would attack and heal herself without retribution. Needless to say, wasn't too bad with a female equipped.


58d8f3  No.16688828

>>16688775

Because people are retards and keep trying to fight her with a team consisting of quilava, pigeotto and beedrill. These are the same people who think gen 2 was the peak of the series.


0b943c  No.16688869

File: 8c6da0c864c00a8⋯.gif (1.81 MB, 350x364, 25:26, kirb_jammin.gif)

File: e22603a5d0050af⋯.png (1.83 MB, 1741x1195, 1741:1195, Sinnoh_Underground.png)

File: 06038c4889bea7d⋯.png (1.3 MB, 1024x724, 256:181, Pt_Sinnoh.png)

>>16673408

Finally a near-perfect tier list. Personally I'd move Platinum up to top of Great Tier or just above Emerald in God Tier, and RS to Good Tier. Platinum doesn't get nearly enough credit nowadays.

>Underground

>Team Galactic and Cyrus look and feel like Jojo villains

>comfiest soundtrack in the series

>coolest region design by far

>the Poketch

>every event Pokemon has a special and unique story event

>majority of new Pokemon look great Dusknoir, Rhyperior, Roserade, Luxray, Toxicroak, Gliscor, and Spiritomb are cool as hell, get fucked

>everything involving Mt. Coronet

>develops the lore based upon what Gen 3 started and massively expands upon it i.e. Pokemon responsible for the creation of the world

>has motherfucking Bidoof

>well-developed post-game consisting of, for example, Battle Frontier, already making it better than every game post-Gen V


8ad038  No.16690067

>>16688775

>Pokemon can follow you like in HG/SS

>Unique sprites for each 251 mon in party screen

>novelty

Nah, the amount of detail and work that went into CC is unparalleled, no other romhack compares.


1a529d  No.16690361

>>16690067

Yes that shit is novelties, its not a part of the main game.

Novelty doesn't mean "doesn't make experience better" but that it is not actually important.

CC is very much a novelty game, open world is a huge meme.

It might have 5000 bells and whistles, but thats not all that goes into making a good game.


6533a9  No.16690406

>>16688869

How could Platinum be God tier when Diamond and Pearl were so fucking shit?


1a529d  No.16690419

>>16690406

First versions tend to be shit in general, and i'd argue outside of the speed DP is solid.


3e1d6f  No.16690430

>>16690067

>a few hundred sprites are an "unparalled" effort

Even Reborn had more work put into it than CC.


8ad038  No.16690448

>>16690361

Reading the changelog/documentation and telling yourself it's just "novelty" you must be brain damaged.

CC is packed with content and fixes while remaining link compatible with the vanilla games because it doesn't change the core fundamentals. It's the only romhack with little conveniences like

>Automatically turn around after healing to avoid talking to nurse again

>Hold B for running shoes, same speed as bike

>Option for fast wild encounters

>Option for soft-resetting for hunting shiny gifts

>"Reset Clock" is part of main menu

>ONLY romhack to allow you to see DVs and Hidden Power types, making it viable to build competitive teams and switch them to RBY/GSC/Stadium

>All TMs available in dept. store after 8 badges

It's not novelty, it's literally Crystal+.

It makes vanilla Crystal obsolete.

If you still want the linear handholding and Team Rocket story elements, play Perfect Crystal. But most have already played through the story countless times so CC is exactly the dream game for a veteran.

Shitting on CC just outs you as a Polished Crystal nu-gen furryfag.


3e1d6f  No.16690452

File: 7401e29552e8176⋯.png (162.45 KB, 500x500, 1:1, smugperior.png)

>>16690448

>getting this superior over fucking pokemon romhacks

You're still the biggest chodenigger ITT for playing the games at all.


8ad038  No.16690467

>>16690452

>get Told and proven wrong

>"lol y u so serious i dunt even care bout pokeymen"

Surrender accepted.


3e1d6f  No.16690470

>>16690467

Maybe you should learn how to read IDs sometime. I'm just here to snipe at the vidyafags.


1a529d  No.16690474

>>16690448

muh competitive mons, you are ten times more autistic than "furry nu-genners".

The link shit is basically worthless for anyone who isn't terminally autistic.

A crystal+ it may be, but crystal isn't exactly the apex of design. It is literally crystal with a bunch of bells and whistles as i said.


1cdd76  No.16690844

Fuck your Clear Crystal cancer

whens Red++ V4?


a5bb7b  No.16690876

File: fd3c5b5c4f973a9⋯.png (37.34 KB, 256x192, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: e61978ff3b3c74e⋯.png (32.49 KB, 256x192, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16690406

Most of DP is pretty good, but there was a huge graphical overhaul in Platinum that hasn't been seen since, as it was the last true third version to be released

this is just one example, nearly the entire game, including battles, looks different


1cdd76  No.16690888

>>16690406

Because Platinum fixed all of D/P's problems on top of environmental improvements and a massive expansion to the post-game.


caa1d4  No.16690943

File: cc7f5bdf9607220⋯.png (2.45 MB, 1500x1339, 1500:1339, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16690876

>as it was the last true third version to be released

Pokemon Z never ever. I still see potential in Kalos, specially if they revisited it like in Platinum.


866ffb  No.16691396

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16690448

>Automatically turn around after healing to avoid talking to nurse again

Are you fucking serious right now? THIS is the feature you open up your shitty argument with? Jesus Christ, just hold down on the Dpad.

>Hold B for running shoes, same speed as bike

A staple in just about every hack these days.

>Option for fast wild encounters

You will be playing this on an emulator, unless you have autism, and they all have turbo mode.

>Option for soft-resetting for hunting shiny gifts

<Shiny hunting.

Vid related. This is you.

>"Reset Clock" is part of main menu

Because it's that hard to input a code on the main screen and formulate a password online?

>ONLY romhack to allow you to see DVs and Hidden Power types, making it viable to build competitive teams and switch them to RBY/GSC/Stadium

<Competitive teams in Gen 2\Stadium.

Please stop. I am dying from laughter. But just for the sake of an argument, you can do what you described either with gameshark, within the game, or cut the bullshit and just use a save editor.

>All TMs available in dept. store after 8 badges

See above.

Holy shit. I am starting to suspect this is bait. Crystal Clear used to have potential with it's open world design idea, but it was drowned out under a million discuck user OC trainers placed everywhere, including outright replacing the elite four and turning almost every other character in the game into a nigger.


97cd97  No.16691658

>>16691396

>A staple in just about every hack these days.

I remember back in the day when an LPer called my hack innovative for being the first to do that. I was genuinely surprised to find I was the first to have done that. It seemed like such an obvious improvement to include.


919705  No.16691773

>>16673408

This is objectively correct.


97cd97  No.16691882

>>16680585

HGSS also takes like five goddamn minutes to kill a caterpie in a single move because of how fucking bad the engine is. Four if you turn animations off.


e51899  No.16692375

Charizard

Gyarados

Rhydon is badass as fuck

Typhlosion

Genghar

I don't really like the look of him, but for some reason I always go after alakazam, or kadabra, if I can't get him.

The new starter gen pokemon always suck and look like shit, and it is depressing.


584871  No.16692965

File: a7ddff28912917b⋯.png (325.5 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.png)

I hate designs of new mons so much. Digimon continues to come out with cool new monsters even if they are overdesigned a lot of the time but I'd take that over the garbage that gamefreak shits out.


18d80f  No.16693231

File: 9c1e2418c79dbca⋯.jpg (23.85 KB, 320x320, 1:1, weregarurumon.jpg)

File: 08d874183e8b3b4⋯.jpg (20.57 KB, 320x320, 1:1, banchomamemon.jpg)

File: 1bc5249e14ede42⋯.jpg (26.7 KB, 320x320, 1:1, pukumon.jpg)

File: 09500524051f654⋯.jpg (17.08 KB, 320x320, 1:1, numemon.jpg)

File: 5665fb4a4c3e2e5⋯.jpg (22.15 KB, 320x320, 1:1, sukamon.jpg)

>>16692965

Talking shit about pokemon designs is one thing, but let's not try to defend digimon. Digimon started with the shit that pokemon is slowly turning into.


584871  No.16693318

>>16693231

What the fuck are you on about? They've moved in complete opposite directions design wise


85faa5  No.16693339

File: e6bcfd2366783ee⋯.png (77.82 KB, 350x517, 350:517, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16693231

Digimon

>Started with highly detailed designs that have clothing on, because it doesn't not make sense that these beings made of data given physical form could have clothing on.

>has admittedly fallen into the same trap of large headed mascots the Pokemon has, albeit with higher detail for some

Pokemon

>No effort at making highly detailed designs

>Excessive use of large head mascots

>Clothing on Pokemon doesn't make sense, as unlike Digimon which are abstract concepts given physical form, Pokemon are run of the mill animals that go through complex metamorphosis over their lifetimes.

Yup totally the same direction.


47bad3  No.16693343

>>16693231

Digimon is punk

Pokemon is the trend-hopping mainstream


85faa5  No.16693352

>>16693339

>Started with highly detailed designs that have clothing on, because it doesn't not make sense that these beings made of data given physical form could have clothing on.

Fucking hell i need to start proofreading my own posts

>Started with highly detailed designs that having clothing on, doesn't not make sense as these beings made of data given physical form could have clothing on.


18d80f  No.16693396

>>16693339

>muh data

Every time. It's not an excuse to have shit designs.


538461  No.16693417

>>16693343

>punk

>not a trend-obsessed fashion movement


07cc21  No.16693431

File: 8a46b1025e30804⋯.jpg (331.92 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, b598b389d21a9735c26eea0bc4….jpg)

Gliscor is best pokebro.


919705  No.16693435

File: abbbd3e21bfd045⋯.jpeg (335.04 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, favorites.jpeg)


a56cd0  No.16693727

File: 2872cd004ed8694⋯.jpg (250.16 KB, 800x1000, 4:5, ce0599f7bfa569abcb3398cfc6….jpg)

>>16693431

my nigga


8ad038  No.16694586

>>16691396

Gen 2 has the best metagame you retard.


7a4712  No.16694636

File: 237bab4e39a7bea⋯.png (1.54 MB, 1812x1134, 302:189, Digimon vs Pokemon.png)

File: 10e12f19063591c⋯.jpeg (53.85 KB, 900x900, 1:1, digimon.jpeg)

>>16693339

>>16693231

Digimon is tamagotchi with the ability to fight. Every digimon game is a spinoff with the tamagotchi being image related the true mainline product.

That's the biggest difference. Pokemon is a monster collector RPG while Digimon is a virtual pet raising series where you raise only one Digimon and it can evolve into any monster given how you raise them and the conditions they meet.

Numemon and Sukamon are the evolutions of any digimon that were neglected in cleanliness. Aleays clean after your digimon.


6971fa  No.16695428

File: cb387b78354cc60⋯.gif (64.09 KB, 300x300, 1:1, ty.gif)

Did they ever finish Pokemon Sage?


13e709  No.16695651

File: 29a419dee6ea9ad⋯.jpg (45.8 KB, 630x478, 315:239, 29a419dee6ea9ad9561b0245d5….jpg)

Gens II through V are good. Gen I was great when it came out but anyone who puts it above anything between II and V (unless you're referring to FR/LG which isn't actually gen I) is a retarded shiteater.

Get upset.


a56cd0  No.16696230

>>16695428

I don't think so. They might still be working on it. I dunno.


b6aab3  No.16696244

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.


970dab  No.16696424

>>16675537

Most of the shit you're talking about is either subjective (saying it looks like dogshit) or doesn't matter unless you're a minmaxing tourneyfag trying to play a game competitively when even at high levels the gameplay mostly involves grinding for weeks only for the actual battles to consist of just praying to the RNG gods.

>The only times a prior Pokemon Game has been better then a newer one even arguably has been when you go from a thid version to a new gen and miss out on functionality (IE Emerald > DP, and to a lesser extent Crystal > R/S); and then gen 6/7 is very debatably inferior to gen 5 and PT/HGSS for similar reasons.

How could you not list Gen II being better than III? III removed more features than it added. Can't even trade over your old pokemon. But then they don't even give you a whole new pokedex, so you get a random smattering of old ones, which only serve to remind you of the old ones you already caught but can't trade over, including a bunch that you can't get PERIOD. Oh wait, don't worry goy, we'll sell you remakes. The best selling games of all time from only like five years ago, which we already tried to sell you three times. Buy it twice more! But even that isn't enough to get all the Pokemon you already had before we broke compatibility! Buy a Nintendo Gamecube, and a Game Boy Advance to Gamecube Link Cable! And then two Gamecube games, and make sure you get the special edition bonus discs!

Also, fuck Day/Night cycles and week cycles. Have fun getting Espeon and Umbreon.

Took until Gen IV to re-add most of the things that were lost to III, and even that was with more remakes. At least Platinum fixed a lot of things on its own though.

>>16680727

>Half of the pokemon get handicapped or completely neutered by pre split.

It's not a big deal because competitive pokemon sucks anyway. The fact of the matter is that most pokemon are just boxes to mark off on a checklist, so I really don't give much of a shit about the stuff you're complaining about.

>>16693231

Digimon started edgy and became waifus. Pokemon started with more realistic looking animals and then became more cartoony. Less edgy, if anything.


6827d4  No.16696441

>>16696424

> Pokemon started with more realistic looking animals and then became more cartoony

>Mr Mime, Jynx, Magneton, Diglet, voltorb

>realistic

The artstyle's changed over the years but don't try to bullshit me with saying it was more "realistic" when that shit existed from the start.


d6da69  No.16696482

File: 513fcae2700b06c⋯.gif (1003.25 KB, 250x251, 250:251, download.gif)

>>16696424

Call me back even they use tree models that aren't ripped from the n64, this is the biggest rush job I've seen since Radical Heights


956b64  No.16696501

>>16696441

Does it hurt to be as stupid as you? Do you even have the brain capacity to understand concepts like "the exception, not the rule"? There is an extremely obvious shift towards more cartoony designs. That there were outlandish designs from the start doesn't change that the designs have become much more outlandish.

I can't even imagine how it's possible to be as stupid as you are. Do you also believe that whites commit as many terrorist attacks as muslims? It's essentially the same as your retarded claim; that the frequency of something happening doesn't matter, only that it does at all.




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