/v/ - Video Games

is this video games

>>8700223

Yes

OMG THIS SHIT AGAIN

My gf made me watch the first season of RWBY with her a few weeks ago. This show is shit. There is nothing appealing about it at all.

>>8700878

Here that not the problem

how do you pronounce it?

>>8700958

most here don't like RWBY and were shitting on it last thread

>>8700971

Ruby

>>8700986

focus more on rip-off evidence

quite frankly I want to see this show completely die and killed brutally

>>8701099

What you don´t mention is that monty didn´t simply die, ´´his wife pulled the plug on him after seven days´´

>>8701099

You forgot

>wife pulls the plug on her 20something year old husband after a week

>>8701111

Nice quads

>>8701269

I've grown up with them, one of them lived to 19 with three legs.

Cats are cold creatures, but give them time and they will branch out to you

>>8701145

The cat was supposedly a stray that the woman found (she was fond of feeding stray cats, apparently), and attacking someone who gets too close is pretty normal for a wild cat.

>>8701061

This is what I wish would happen except everybody is focused on talking about Monty dying.

>>8701564

>dying

He was essentially murdered

>>8701806

Oh, there's definitely no question that Monty brought his death on himself, but fuck, there's no way I can believe that he wasn't straight up murdered by his wife.

>>8701847

She knew that he had an allergy to cats, but instead of saying "okay, we'll just get a dog instead" she purposfully got a street cat and brought it into the home, knowing full well of what might happen

They most you could get her with is 2nd Degree Murder, maybe Manslaughter

>>8701875

Kill me, Pete.

>>8701875

Kill me Pete

>>8701269

>The puppys pee bags

Why the hell would you make it piss in a bag?

>>8701847

So let me get this straight.

Secretly marries Sheena on May 10, 2014 in desperation for her to get a US visa? So married for just under 9 months up until Oum's death.

Was a cosplayer before the marriage but still gets a small amount income and fame and connections thanks to Oum's working at RT. Is eventually told to stop using RT equipment. In the past she also seems to take advantage of the fact she resembles another famous cosplayer.

Motive

Uses Monty weakness to cat allergies to end up sending him to hospital where he goes into a coma and dies (or she was the one who pulled the plug?)

Even though Monty is allergic, he doesn't leave the house at the risk of his own health.

After his death, she gets a large amount of donations/money (which should have been used for medical) while still retaining some fame and connections with RT.

>>8701847

I have to admit, what happened is a pretty "out there" way to murder someone. It does make me wonder does it count as murder? He was willing (not forced) to stay in a environment that was harming his health, this might end of more as a manslaughter charge.

In the end it seems like Monty was a "kind", "nice guy", "pushover sort of person", who refused to stand up against her actions and say NO to her (which would be hard to prove in court).

She possibly took advantage of that niceness, to get quickly married, use his RT connections, get a stray cat and have him willingly stay with the cat even at the cost of his own health.

>>8701115

>Only seven days

Jesus fucking christ. This is why you don't sign over those kinds of rights to your shitty spouse, this seems pretty clear cut murder to me, even if it didn't start intentional, a comatose state for seven days hardly begets pulling a plug.

>>8703822

Maybe murder is a bit strong, but the intent and possibility is all there, the shady bit comes from her yanking the cord out on the poor bastard after sucking up 20K worth of donations.

Video games?

Also, this gives me more ammo to stay a wizard. 3dpd not even once.

Reminder you can get the Grimm Eclipse models here http://sticklove.deviantart.com/gallery/57446035/RWBY-Grim-Eclipse

But you need the xps/xnalara program or the blender xnalara addon to toy with them.

>>8705829

Thanks, Anon. Been playing with Blender lately, with an intent to pick up animation and pick up where Monty left off.

>>8701945

Everything in that post is well known, and was talked about openly by everyone involved when it happened. It shouldn't be hard to dig up their posts relating to it. However, I seem to recall that he was actually undergoing treatments for the allergy, not just taking medicine.

>>8701301

That's how they are taking over Japanese islands.

NEVER TRUST A CAT.

>>8702677

Its about catheters. Because most of commercial dog breeds are genetic clusterfucks on four legs.

>>8705829

>Unsupported model type that require 3rd part plug ins.

God damn I hate this. Literally every time I find a model I actually want to use, I have to go to some pain in the ass process to even get it useable. Why are there so many damn 3d model files types.

I mean, I can guess why there is, but I thought .obj was suppose to be the standard or something.

>>8702095

Depends on how old the cat is. I've taken in a few strays already, and most of the time it's just kittens who somebody didn't feel like keeping (their cat probably got pregnant and they didn't feel like taking care of her young) and so they just kicked the kittens out and barred the door. Such cats then tend to stick to humans and I've found a few sitting by my front door, only few months old, wanting cuddles and food. Took them all in and had no problems.

>>8707056

Well in order for that to happen to Burch, you would have to pretend to love him, and no one can do that. Not even on their marriage day could Ashley muster the emotion to do so.

>>8707056

>[?]

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>>8707112

THE 8TH FUCKING TIME I'VE MISSED TRIPS BY ONE. IT'S A STREAK.

>>8701099

What a fuck. Sounds like a straight up sociopath.

>>8707152

She is.

>She anounced she is her wife when he is in coma.

>Not even his family knew about it

>Not even her family knew about it

>She was already travelling to cons and cosplaying 15 days after he died.

>She was banging another guy 2 monts after he died.

>She may have banged another guy in that same period of time too.

>Guy has been dead for over a year and she still gets money from the indiegogo shit.

>She has sold shit with his signature on it just to make more money.

I still wonder, why did he hook up with her. She isn't even specially cute or sexy.

>>8707265

>>She anounced she is her wife when he is in coma.

What does this line mean?

>>She was already travelling to cons and cosplaying 15 days after he died.

>>She was banging another guy 2 monts after he died.

Holy shit. Do you have a source on these?

>I still wonder, why did he hook up with her.

Given some of the things he said and did, he kinda acts like an anime character. I wonder if he was just naive. Given his lifestyle, he was probably very lonely.

>>8707265

Absolutely shameless, hardly waited for the body to get cold. No idea, perhaps she was simply the first girl to be forward with him.

>>8706948

Maybe its just the render?

If not, you can upload the UV map and I'll see if I can do a quick diffuse map for it.

Also, to anyone that can open the models, would you mind uploading an .obj of them? Would appreciate it a lot.

>>8707731

https://volafile.io/get/-FYrP-kdOg9mM/yangTest.mtl

https://volafile.io/get/OPbiPu8dOg-fM/yangTest.obj

Here is the mlt too. I'm pretty sure I just need to name the .obj files the right names. 3d modeling has never been my thing, I just try to get them to work, and program from there. I never even know where to but the Materials folder, or where to put the .tga files and what not.

I only messed with Yang though.

About Monty's death, can anyone site where his wife pulled the plug after the week?

I need sources people. Or at least tell me if that source was deleted or what not.

>>8707834

>When you hover a file with your mouse the icon will transform into a button that lets you download the file.

On what should I be hovering over? The Link? the tab? the web page?

>>8707834

>>8707961

Nvm. Got it.

>>8708131

After installing that plug in, I just clicked on both files and clicked open, and then clicked export. Probably shouldn't have opened both the generic_item.mesh and the generic_item.mesh.ascii…

It may be just Baader-Meinhoff but for some reason it seems like I've seen this RWBY thing mentioned a great deal recently, despite never having heard of it a week ago. It's become conspicuously common enough to pique my curiosity.

What actually is it? Clearly a show and a game of some kind, but why is it noteworthy other than the creator dying?

I don't know my Chinese cartoons; do people hate this one the same way I always see hate for the Sword Art thing? Do they hate one of the companies behind it?

>>8709961

Don't lie to yourself. You already knew it.

>>8709895

It's like CGI anime with some cool fight scenes, and that's about it.

>>8709895

>I don't know my Chinese cartoons; do people hate this one the same way I always see hate for the Sword Art thing?

RWBY isn't an anime, it's a poor man's imitation of it.

>>8710720

On one hand, it imitated all of the terrible "character development" of generic anime and western dubbing. On the other, it imitated several anime's worth of frames per fight scene, so that's cool. It's definitely a guilty pleasure sort of thing.

>>8709895

It's basically a poor man's version of an anime that has girls doing cute things but beat the shit out of each other show. There's a good amount of different reasons people don't like the show. One of them is that the majority of the fan base are autistic that matches LoK or even SU, and another is Monty can't really take criticism when it comes to the animation errors (ex. Loads of clipping and what not).

>Shares the same amount of hate like that shit SAO show

It probably does, but comparing those two shows is like apples and oranges. Both are hated, but both are different storylines.

>>8709895

different reason for being hated but both pander to little nerdy teenagers that shop at hot topic.

>>8710980

My understanding is that the range of skill between the various people who work on RWBY is extremely wide. They seem to go from "Intern animator who just did the bouncing ball exercise for the first time" to "Monty." Also, it's looking like there's a very high turnover rate. Which is why you get shit Cinder running over the rooftops, and shit like this within the same season.

>>8711051

My bad, that's the last episode of season 1. Still, the fact that Cinder on the rooftops came after says something.

>>8710907

>>8710996

I wasn't so much asking about the reasons for being hated, just trying to figure out why it drew /v/'s attention.when it seems to be a mediocre-at-best series. I wasn't sure if the company behind it was somehow unpopular, or if it was a particularly disliked series, or some other reason to pay it any attention that led to the unusual death circumstances being noticed.

>>8711069

I grew /v's attention when Death Battle rigged a fight to have a Rwby character win by exaggerating their abilities and handicapping the others

>>8711069

>what rooster teeth did to catch /v/'s attention?

Maybe it's the fact they're not ethical, would shill for shit, and probably have undisclosed relationships with other people/channels/ect.

>>8711069

>trying to figure out why it drew /v/'s attention.

I've noticed that a significant portion of /v/ has a huge autism boner for certain kinds of direction and cinematography, which RWBY has a lot of, so it's not surprising that it has a little bit of a following here. This is the same kind of thing that gives Super Mario Bros. Z a fanbase here, despite everyone knowing that it's absolute DeviantArt-tier garbage in terms of story.

I've never seen anyone on /v/ argue that RWBY is a high-tier show, but it does contain a lot of satisfying elements, which unfortunately aren't complemented by the rest of the whole. The show's creator, Monty Oum, has been on the internet radar for the better part of a decade, due to his making well-choreographed video game character dream match-ups, like Haloid (vid related), and later Dead Fantasy. This sort of thing was unheard of in 2007, and is still on a level that almost nobody reaches nowadays, at least in terms of pure animation skill.

RWBY has been showing up a lot more recently due to its third season ending, which was one of those "everybody dies" endings, and it set up another season hard, so there's a lot of hype. Also, >>8711132 happened. I'm not sure why his death has been coming up a lot more lately. It's been just a little over a year now, and while it seemed like some bizarre freak accident at the time, the suspicious circumstances are now getting a ton more exposure. I've seen people from >>>/rwby/ really pushing to dig lately.

Also, in case it wasn't clear, Monty was not a regular part of RoosterTeeth. He signed on to work with them on Red vs. Blue for a while, and RWBY happened as a result.

>>8710980

Better choreography. The video you posted had cleaner animation, while the other one had much better flow to it in terms of timing and execution. That's the difference between RWBY fight scenes that are and aren't animated by Monty.

>>8700203

There really isn't anything to dig at, unless you mean digging more into how fucked everything is at Rooster Teeth like how /tv/ did with TGWTG and Channel Awsome. What the anon said in the power level thread is most likely what everything was. Monty Oyum had a Gold digger of a girlfiend, and unless someone kills her, that's the end to this story.

>>8700959

More like homicide. It's hard to argue in a court of law that the murder was premeditated since Monty let her bring the cat in. Murder no, homicide maybe.

There's a thread about Monty's death over at >>>/rwby/.

>>8711380

Pulling the plug on him seven days after he went into the coma is suspicious as fuck, considering that they'd only been married for 9 months, and especially considering that so much fucking dosh was involved. Not to mention her behavior afterwards. Maybe she's not an outright murderer, but it sure as fuck looks like she's an opportunist. No matter what her train of thought was, she was gifted the means to give her husband a chance at life, and she chose to deny him that and keep it for herself.

>>8711355

>Letting the story end on injustice.

I realize that's how life is sometimes, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to try.

>>8709758

Damn, models look pretty good without the whole animu cellshading gimmick.

Also, anyone into modding here? I'm interested in doing some texture edits to the character's models, but haven't worked with unity before.

>>8709961

Just google Sheena Duquette, and yes, she photoshops herself beyond infinity.

>>8709758

She has no "shorts". It's literally painted on the model.

>>8715570

Guilty pleasure for a lot of people here, don't like it myself, but the Monty story of that bitch straight-up getting away with murder gave me Gone Girl vibes, like fuck, and the amount of SJWs in ANN and other animu communities giving Monty and Roosterteeth shit.

>>8715570

The "weight" part is an issue with losing Monty. When you have Monty animating a scene, you get this:

>>8710898

While when you have the current animators, you get this:

>>8710980

The simple fact is, Monty Oum was one of the best animators alive, and God only knows what he could have done with the unlimited budget that major companies like Pixar have instead of working within the limits of what RT had for him. Hell, what he could have done if he had the budget RT had for RWBY V3 instead of what was present at the start.

Instead he was killed by his wife.

>>8715757

Check lolcow. Lots of sources posted there.

>>8715855

>Best animator

Kek.

Oh, he's better than the sub humans who are doing the animations now, but he's not the best.

He's just average who so happened to make his animation shiny. That's it.

You go to any animator worth his salt, 2D or 3D and he'd tell you Monty's animations are wrong. They look pretty, but they're wrong.

>>8711454

What's even more messed up is that this "secret wife of 9 months" had more sway than the rest of Monty's family that has 4 older brothers and 2 older sisters, and possibly even his own parents. Even the friends from RT (who knew about the marriage) not get a chance?

I talked to a lawyer in training friend about this case, they mentioned that in the US, this probably would not count as murder because Monty was willing (not forced) to stay in his home despite what it did to his health.

Though they the friend said it would be more likely to charge Sheena for staying in the US illegally (and possibly even tax evasion). But if she did get caught for that, wouldn't she just start a sob story and then get more donated money?

>RWBY fights have been uploaded in 60FPS

Dear lord yes.

>>8716813

Hmmm, have you compared Yang's model with the TDA Miku Append one?

Does anybody care about the MMD copyright thing anymore?

>>8716813

What do you plan on doing with them? Porn?

>>8716813

Can you edit/delete object files in Unity? The translucent arms must be a problem from the Weapon.sh object, deleting that should probably fix it.

>>8717626

Not that anon but on my case I'm considering doing an auction pic using ruby. I think she (in blender) doesnt have a lot of problems unlike Yang…

>>8716813

>I got the damn model working.

How? I got it imported but couldn't stay awake long enough to get the textures working.

Can you upload them as .obj?

>>8710898

>On the other, it imitated several anime's worth of frames per fight scene, so that's cool.

Anime is hand-drawn (and looks drastically better), RWBY is done with 3D models.

>>8718257

My comment was more about the amount of effort put into the individual motions. It would have made more sense for me to say Keyframes.

>>8718632

Again, RWBY is 3D animation. It's completely different from 2D animation where every single frame is drawn (usually on pen and paper), scanned and colored one at a time.

And I doubt we will be seeing this kind of animation quality from RWBY any time soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1cMPnMcaY

Even if Pixar recreated that scene shot for shot, it still wouldn't look as good. Because 3D animation cannot look as good as 2D animation.

>>8718760

>3D animation cannot look as good as 2D animation.

That's a mere matter of opinion. It's always going to boil down to whoever is animating it to begin with.

>>8719231

>dicks

>>8701145

As much as I like cats strays are different than domestic, they get straight up territorial and if they decide they don't want you in their area, an area they claimed as their own they will attack.

Especially if it's a male in rut, they'll go batshit at times

>>8719432

>Catnip

Question:

What was Monty's state before she pulled the plug?

I understand he was in a coma, but was he brain dead (or have any other kind of brain injury), or was he just in a coma?

Polite sage because I simply do not wish to bump the thread.

>>8718796

>>8718813

3D animation is more science than art, compared to 2D animation (by which I mean anime in this case). It's compartmentalized so that models, animation, textures, lighting and camera work are all separate tasks that can be and most likely are worked on separately by different people. Any individual component of the animation can be incrementally fine-tuned to perfection with relative ease, and many things are automated. This makes 3D animation easy compared to 2D animation, where everything is painstakingly animated one hand-drawn image at a time. The animator has to keep the character "on model" (unless their style is to not do so), maintain proportions, perspective and parallax, apply lighting and shading, give the movements appropriate weight and momentum, and figure out how things like hair and clothes react to the character's movements. All of this may have to be done in combination with complex three-dimensional camera work and even the scenery itself being animated. https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17747/

2D animation is impressive because of how much skill and effort goes into it. But it's also very personal because it's done by individual artists with their own recognizable ways of drawing characters, lines, shading, movement and effects, and even framing shots (how much they get to exhibit their individual style depends on how much freedom they've been given, but the more of a superstar someone is the more freedom they're likely to get, and they might even be the director). This kind of individuality is possible in 3D animation, but not nearly to the same extent, and the production method strongly discourages it.

3D animation is also stiff and sterile compared to 2D animation. Manipulating 3D models doesn't afford the same kind of nuance and raw creativity that a pen does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLNHSrJoqFM

>>8720484

>models, animation, textures, lighting and camera work are all separate tasks

True, but they all head towards one direction. That's why there's an art director.

Even with 2D, it's the same, just with different name. You think animators got time to create and make the background while they're drawing the action?

All animators, whether 2D or 3D, get segregated into scenes, so whatever point you have goes up in smokes there.

For the really important scenes though, like the one in that link you posted with Sauske fighting, they give to their real big gun animators, who are all likely been in the industry for 5+ years. Like the art director themselves.

What I'll give you points for is that 2D animators do have to keep characters "on model", but then again, thats what they first look for when hiring 2D artist. Everything else is the same for 3D.

>"complex three-dimensional camera work"

Kek. They all decided that in conceptualization in the production pipeline. Both 2D and 3D. If you're going to give credit to that, give it to the concept artist and storyboards, cuz they're the ones that did that.

>3D animation is also stiff and sterile compared to 2D animation.

Talking out of your ass.

>Manipulating 3D models doesn't afford the same kind of nuance and raw creativity that a pen does.

True, but 2D animations have to follow the same logic as 3D, which is real life logic physics. And again, all the action and animation you see is already done in the concept stage and storyboard stage of the production.

>>8716813

>She got stuck with ghost hands.

GHOST HANDJOB

WOO WOOOO

>>8719231

>chicks jerking off futas

I like, but at the same time think they should be using that baby batter to knock up the woman instead, tbh.

>>8718760

>3D animation cannot look as good as 2D animation.

I'm guessing you havent' seen a thing that Sanzigen is doing. One of the few Japanese animation studios that are pushing 3D in Japan. I guess if you are comparing it with what is put on Television then I could understand. There was a dark time when there were cartoons based on 3D animated movies and the quality drop was huge. Not only in quality of animation, texture but also in writing. I think the worse example of this I saw was for that Monsters vs Aliens cartoon, the one that featured Seth Rogen in the movie as a blob.

>>8700915

>3DPD

>not even once

>>8720162

It probably is but autist fans and waifu fags tend to ignore minor details.

>>8720766

>True, but they all head towards one direction. That's why there's an art director.

>Even with 2D, it's the same, just with different name. You think animators got time to create and make the background while they're drawing the action?

>All animators, whether 2D or 3D, get segregated into scenes, so whatever point you have goes up in smokes there.

In anime 2D animation, all the things I listed in the first paragraph are done by one animator alone, and then (usually) filled in by an in-between animator. In 3D animation, you can have different people in charge of textures, models, animation, lighting, camera work, effects and moving props whereas all of their equivalents in anime are done by one animator in his assigned cut. We're not even talking about background art yet (which, as I said, can sometimes be made by the animator himself in anime, e.g. like this: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/4751/ or this https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/8783/ ).

The process of creating 3D animation is very different from creating 2D animated anime.

>For the really important scenes though, like the one in that link you posted with Sauske fighting, they give to their real big gun animators, who are all likely been in the industry for 5+ years. Like the art director themselves.

Well of course. What about it?

>What I'll give you points for is that 2D animators do have to keep characters "on model", but then again, thats what they first look for when hiring 2D artist. Everything else is the same for 3D.

Keeping characters strictly on-model isn't usually considered that important in anime, and some animators like Shinya Ohira intentionally disregard it.

>Kek. They all decided that in conceptualization in the production pipeline. Both 2D and 3D. If you're going to give credit to that, give it to the concept artist and storyboards, cuz they're the ones that did that.

Storyboarding a scene isn't hard. Storyboards are usually very sketchy, and the fine details are left to the animators. Actually animating the storyboard is the hard part. Look at that fight scene again, and keep in mind that in 2D animation you can't just move the camera however you like. Everything has to be drawn frame by frame. It's not like 3D animation.

Here is part a storyboard for a scene: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19153/

Here is the actual scene: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/16157/

Storyboard > key animation > in-betweened animation > finished animation: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15898/

>Talking out of your ass.

No, it's just the nature of 3D animation. For example, you can't do these in 3DCG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BosH9d56SsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf6r19JIGRU

Or I guess you could somehow do something similar, but it would require extremely contrived, counter-intuitive and jury-rigged techniques.

>True, but 2D animations have to follow the same logic as 3D, which is real life logic physics.

Neither of them have to follow real physics. https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/10753/

>And again, all the action and animation you see is already done in the concept stage and storyboard stage of the production.

That's not how it works in anime. Or anywhere else… if the storyboard already contains all the animation then what do you need animators for? But come to think of it, who animated the storyboards? Well, animators most likely.

>>8721120

More like normalfags are such utter faggots and straight up fear the truth.

I know a guy who's a real big fan of Monty and Rooster Teeth, and when I brought up Monty's wife may have murdered him he immediately says he doesn't want to know more cuz he didn't want to taint his memory of Monty.

>>8701115

Oh is that why he suddenly died.

>>8722209

>egoraptor

Disgusting, anon.

>>8722209

>egoraptor

Disgusting, anon.

Out of curiosity, is there any digging or is this thread mostly Rwby shilling/circle jerking and having interesting debate between 2D and 3D animation?

>>8721475

In anime, the normal workflow is that the director draws a (usually rough) storyboard and assigns "cuts" (shots or scenes) to animators (or someone else might assign the cuts in his stead). The animators are responsible for all the animation in the cuts they've been given, whether it's walking, talking, fighting, effects or vehicles. They draw layouts (essentially more detailed storyboards) which are then approved or rejected by the director. After that the animators draw the key frames, and once they've been approved they are sent to in-between animators who fill in the missing frames according to the key animator's instructions.

This is the usual way of doing anime whether you're a superstar animator doing big scenes or a "nobody" doing mundane work. But even if you're a nobody, you're still an animator of some experience since you've been put in charge of key animation. Beginning animators do in-between animation to learn the ropes.

The point is that this is very different from 3D animation where the entire process is divided into discrete tasks that can easily be done by different people across the entire movie. If a movie like Frozen was done the same way as anime, then a cut would be assigned to a single animator who would create the 3D models from scratch and animate them himself, animate all the effects and props in the scene himself, and set the cameras and lighting himself. Then an animation director would go over the work and correct it so it doesn't have any errors and looks consistent with everyone else's cuts. This would be a fantastically inefficient way of doing 3D animation, so of course people don't do it that way.

>That's because they show actions and minor backgrounds ONLY.

Did I say anything to the contrary? I've already stated that storyboards are rough visualizations of what happens in the episode/movie.

>Again, no it's not. Concept artist are the ones that do that, and 2D animators reproduce an even less detailed version of the art.

By fine details I mean producing a more detailed conceptualization of the scene and then animating it.

Storyboard for the opening sequence of Tamako Market, by the series director: https://imgur.com/dMbtW2S

Layout based on the storyboard: https://imgur.com/GO6XMdb

Key frames based on the layout: https://imgur.com/OntK68K

Finished product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV4R2AUZbek

It depends on the director, but the storyboards might be really vague and only give a general idea of what's happening. Even if they are more detailed, they are still just storyboards. The animator has to animate everything. You seem to think that animation is some kind of menial labor that practically happens by itself, but the animator has to figure out how the clothes, hair and shoulder bag of the character react to her running, how her clothes deform as she moves, how shadows are cast on her body, and so on.

I already showed you this: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/16157/

Which is based on nothing more detailed than this: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19153/

That storyboard gives the animator a general idea of what happens in the scene, and that's it. The animator also has a design sheet for the character, but that also doesn't tell him (or her) how to animate the scene. It's the job of an animator to decide and know how to animate things.

>I may have worded it poorly, but all actions in animation, in 2D or 3D, must adhere to the principles of animations, which is based on real life logic of how things move, react, squash, stretch, etc. Otherwise they look unnatural as fuck.

There are many ways to animate characters. Disney had theatrically restless and sweeping movements and seamlessly smooth animation, while https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17166/ makes minimal use of in-between animation in favor of "cool and interesting poses." https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/11273/ has realistically understated character acting, and and in https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/5109/ characters melt.

3D animation is more constricted in how it can animate characters, but also leads animators down certain paths to animate characters in certain ways.

>It has all KEY FRAMES numb nuts. The only thing Animators do is fill in the gap.

As far as I know American TV shows have very detailed storyboards so that the Korean studios can fill in the rest, but we're talking about how anime is made.

>>8722500

Today I learned something.

Thank you, /v/.

(Also, I'm used to MMD used for lewds, so RWBY is fucking weird to me)

>>8716813

>no this'll be the day in the background

You had one job, man.

>>8722451

From Chung's perspective it is true that 3D animation is better, because 2D animation production is so difficult and limited outside of Japan, with the actual animation usually being outsourced. It's also true that 3D animation is easier to work with. But, at the end of the day, 2D animation still produces superior results in the right hands. It's similar to computer special effects vs. practical special effects.

His comment about animation not being about drawing is kind of in line with Disney's approach to animation, because they sought to create the illusion that the drawings are moving on their own and are not comprised of individual images, just like film and 3D animation. And Disney has had a pervasive influence on how Americans see animation. Chung doesn't even seem to be interested in animation in and of itself, since he says that animation shouldn't draw attention to itself. This is in diametric opposition to anime.

>>8722500

10/10 informative post.

>>8722525

>>8723167

I'm somewhat just recycling this presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLNHSrJoqFM . It's not all I've learned about the subject but it was my starting point.

>>8715570

You'll like Hong Kong live action movie fights then. They have both the weight and the impractical choreography.

>>8718760

>Because 3D animation cannot look as good as 2D animation.

Anon pls just look at embed.

>It's a game doesnt count.

Still in 3D and people had to animate the scenes anyway.

>>8722476

>>8722499

Ego remembers some small spark of who he was. It's been beaten down and suppressed by his wife and the soullessness of GameGrumps, but after hearing the passion with which he spoke about animation, there's no way he doesn't (or at least didn't) understand and desire something better.

Skip to 38:40. That's not the demeanor of somebody who doesn't care.

>>8723304

Ah I forgot that she fell for that shit… The world's most powerful woman, and she fell for the sexy no jutsu…

Naruto pls.

>>8723304

Well to be more clear, or as I've already made more clear, I'm not talking about just how things look at face value, but how they were made.

Nobody really cares about computer effects and sets in movies, and the best compliment you can give them is that you didn't notice them. Practical effects and real sets on the other hand are respected. It's the same with 3D vs. 2D animation.

There's a substantial fandom around anime animation which extends somewhat to other 2D animation, but I've never seen anything equivalent for 3D animation.

>>8706698

>you don't need a source, everything's talked about openly!

Fuck off.

https://twitter.com/sheenaoum/status/569319575579283456

https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/456015378649743360

https://twitter.com/sheenaoum/status/586591454002155520

https://archive.is/2dnx7

https://8ch.net/v/src/1458080445614-2.jpg

https://8ch.net/v/src/1458080445614-1.jpg

https://8ch.net/v/src/1458080445613-0.jpg

>>8701945

>>8701099

>>8701115

I heard she had him on a DNR, but I couldn't find any evidence that she pulled the plug or any evidence of a DNR. Another anon should dig into this.

>>8722499

There *was* digging in the previous threads on ripping parts from MMD models and editing them without attribution, but that has been dropped because everybody thinks Monty's death is more interesting.

If we're autistic enough to get a model rip working properly in Unity on our own and extract its UV maps, we can investigate just how much RT took from other sources and the legality of it.

http://archive.is/o0As6

In case anybody had interest on digging up info from RT, Spread the word out. Let RoosterGate be a thing, help out the ED writers.

>>8723283

I hate women fight scene but It's original

>>8725480

>RoosterGate

>just throwing Gate onto the end of anything

McFucking Kill yourself

>>8725610

>>8725610

>Weiss

>Green skin

Pepe?

Bump in hopes of finding something more out about the circumstances of Monty's death.

>>8727152

He went for a typical operation (I think it was dentist related), and he had a reaction to the anesthetic. It caused him to go into a coma, and after only 7 days the cunt cut his life support.

Now here's the thing… He was medically insured, RoosterTeeth had really good medical coverage for him, it wasn't going to cost them much to keep him alive so that he could, you know, recover. Instead she killed him, then went on a vacation.

>>8727210

I'm aware of all that, aside from the insurance part. I'm hoping somebody will find something else. Or maybe even, God willing, somebody who has insider information will drop us a trail of breadcrumbs. Wouldn't be the first time we got picked up by a first-party source on a story.

>>8727225

They didn't even know Sheena and Monty were together, what the fuck are you expecting? What kind of INSIDER INFO can you get from people who don't know anything?

>>8727244

Who is "They?"

>>8727263

RoosterTeeth, his family, anyone who knew Monty. No one knew. They kept it that way so that people at RoosterTeeth wouldn't see Sheena as a conflict of interest.

I'll also point out that the people at RoosterTeeth alluded to her in a dreadful way several times on the podcast, without ever naming her.

>>8727280

Fuck. I guess that kind of down-low is possible when you never go out and do anything physically.

I would be interested to see the clips of people referring to her.

>>8727319

Monty was a workaholic, he spent almost all of his time at work. It wasn't uncommon for Monty to work too hard. In the podcast talking about Monty after he died, one of the roosterteeth guys said that it actually wasn't uncommon for him to find Monty with chemical burns on his hands (which he'd then transfer to his face from wiping his brow, thus having burns on both hand and face) from the work that he did for RT. I'm not sure what it is that he was making, but whatever chemicals he was mixing together, he was doing it in an unsafe fashion.

>>8727356

Also he pretty much lived in one of the mocap suits they bought, they retired the suit when Monty died and so far as I know, they haven't washed it so it still smells like him. The guy didn't have much growing up, so he was a tinkerer and used to take apart electronics and put them together to make things he didn't have but wanted, so working at RT with actual money made him so excited that it wasn't really a job to him.

Guy fucking loved the work he did.

>>8723499

Too bad he's still and always will be a cuck.

>>8727428

Despite your assumption, I actually don't have much history with their podcasts. When I heard that Monty died, I was checking out their shit seeing what that was all about, I watched the tribute podcast, that made me watch some of their podcasts.

I don't know what their podcast deletion is like, but if they're anything like mega64 you can probably download all of their podcasts on itunes as audio files. They're more professional than mega64, so yeah, if it's not on Youtube, check itunes.

>>8727375

I may not like RWBY, Roosterteeth, or its Fanbase, but that guy had a lot of ambition and i can respect that. Put time into the things he love and work himself half to death for his dreams. I bet most of the shit he did like animation and programming was all self taught too, imagine what he would've accomplished if he had more education on the arts of animation

He could've probably left RT and started his own thing, probably could've completed his dream not for the fact he PROBABLY got murdered

>>8727497

Monty didn't really need to leave RT though, RWBY was his baby. He wanted to be there. I don't think an "education" would have benefited him in any way, you should know that college graduates typically spend the next several years UNLEARNING their college education to acquire actual applied knowledge in the field that they work. This especially applies to programmers and animators.

Monty wouldn't have benefited from a paper saying "hey, this guy's got a BA in animation" or "hey this guy's got a BSc in computer science" because he only learned that which he needed for the purposes he needed it. Most of the animation process was mocap anyway.

>>8727548

Hmm, you're right, you're right.

I just think the guy could've done so much more with all his skills, too bad we'll never know for sure.

>>8727613

He did give us one final gift.

He died young enough to be a hero. He could be used as an actual example of where hard work gets you. He was the embodiment of Just Like Make Game, but animation.

>>8727636

>He did give us one final gift.

>He died young enough to be a hero.

I dunno mate, I think the Dark Knight is a bit out of place here, kind of macabre, no?

>He could be used as an actual example of where hard work gets you. He was the embodiment of Just Like Make Game, but animation.

Absolutely agree there, though.

>>8727882

>I happen to like roosterteeth

What does that have to do with the topic at hand, you double nigger? People aren't shitting on them, they're talking about the shitty circumstances and goings on surrounding the death of Monty Oum. Go fuck yourself.

>>8728004

calm down m8

>>8728363

>Barbara isn't good

Fuck you, mate.

>>8728420

Elyse is miles better, bruv.

>>8728481

This ain't no competition, Myrtle.

Did anybody archive the older threads?

it's almost like rooster teeth lucked into their fame with an entertaining-at-first machinima, quickly ballooned to a bloated mess, and now only produces total garbage (except rage quit and even that is only barely okay)

>>8733645

Kind of reminds me of Blizzard and/or Valve.

Get lucky with some halfway decent stuff at first (heavily based on other companies' IPs), then just start buying other peoples' ideas. When you realize you've got nothing of your own.

X-Ray and Vav? Fucking seriously?

I'd actually like to see the animators on /v/ do something cool with the models, and I don't mean that in a "I'd like to see you do better!" kind of way. A little project to keep these threads alive might be interesting.

Not sure why, but /v/'s RWBY threads are actually pretty chill.

I want a cat but might be allergic. Will this fate befall me?

>>8736192

Get tested.

>>8736192

Im in the same boat, allergic to some cats. Try and find one that doesnt trigger an allergic reaction

>>8738723

>Yang is shadow, but her hair is normal

Something to do with her intro in the Yellow Trailer? It had the same effect.

>>8738723

Something about Weiss' skirt…

Seems to be no jigglebone physics.

>>8736377

Pretty sure it was stated earlier that Monty had a strict no-nudes policy on the models with the exception of Velvet for the competition.

>>8700203

RWBY is getting nailed pretty hard in futaba and Jap twitter as several of their model seems to be frankenstein style crafts made of several other popular MMD models.

>>8701875

Kill me, Pete

>>8748850

The ghost arms are still a problem tho?

>>8753233

>Neo

>That pose

Anon, are you trying to make me fap?

>>8748923

I actually came here to ask about this, since I heard that apparently the game had a bunch of repurposed 2hu assets (Yang's boots for example). Anyone know any details?

>>8745926

>with the exception of Velvet for the competition.

w-what?

>>8753985

N-no

Pls more

>>8745926

Elaborate please

>>8754513

Jesus I hope so.

>>8754475

>forcing her tongue

>her breast pressing up against your lower chest

That's a hell of a neck right here.

>>8754645

do it

>>8754645

It need a lot of weird body proportion, please

>>8754575

Copy that

>>8754864

Make her a futa

This thread ended here >>8727548

stop /trash/ing the thread and let it die faggots

Anons, we need to find that Medical report on Oum. We need to find out who the doctor who was treating him to see if he's a legit doctor.

>>8760112

Whether or not you're being entirely serious, any doctor who would let their patient die after a week is extremely suspect.

>>8760352

Exactly, we actually had two possible suspects…

The wife, and the Doctor. We haven't talked about Oum's Doctor, so that's why I asked for a medical report.

>>8755218

>>8756180

More like her semen tastes like vanilla

Her pussy still tastes like strawberries though

Also aren't you forgetting chocolate? Neapolitan is three flavours, right?

>>8707294

> she announced she was his wife

He meant no one knew they were really married at all we knew about her but assumed they were just bf/gf

>>8703822

Monty left the house but he generally stayed away from cats and such like the plague, hell fucking burnie and Matt at RT got rid of the office cat at because they knew they were practically killing monty from his allergies.

>>8707909

They talked about it on the podcast as well as had a special monty podcast talking about him and what happened.

>>8720437

All we know is that they have been secretive as fuck regarding this especially with what happened. Anyone that even remotely tried to ask questions at the time got shouted down or had comments removed on reddit/the rt site.

>>8727210

> dentist

I thought he went into the doctors for allergy related shit and had a violent reaction to the medication.

>>8727428

They never directly talked about sheena at all except for once where monty almost ate a wedding cake before the bride/groom even cut it. They said her name maybe 3? Times and talked about her maybe 6-7 times mainly with sheena constantly hounding Monty to make her a costume for her cosplay.

>>8754513

she was a nerdy looking teen that didnt blossom until she was in her early 20s anon and has talked about how shes taken a fart to the face during a blow job so probably

>>8764623

From what I know, there's gotta be some hospitals in the Austin, TX area. We should give it a search.

>>8766831

>$25 for a checkup.

This might take awhile.

Damn floods

>>8769772

> Miles, kerry, and monty barely knew what animu was

Nah they knew what animu was but they went with alot of the very popular anime the west gets. So its why rwby writing is shit in the first place.

Found a list of other examples besides the recolored Reisen.

Yang's boots taken from a Mokou model, Adam's hair taken from a Grimmjow model, and several examples of Luka and Miku textures being used in places including Weiss' face.

It also seems like it wasn't 2ch that originally discovered this, but rather Chinese users. I guess it makes sense they'd be experts in knockoffs.

>>8771148

> needed homework

They were only into the super popular animes that were on toonami. Fuck even miles and kerry had stupid figurines on they're desks and stuff. But then again miles probably took cues from erin on how to write since he essentially brought her onto the show just because she was his gf.

>>8772490

I don't know but apparently the writing for the show got better or so I heard since monty's passing last year. Also i wonder how long they'll milk rwby like they did rvb

>>8772884

I found the latest season to be pretty awful and ended up dropping it a few episodes in, largely because the dialogue seemed really lame and characters acting dumb.

>>8772995

Really well thats a shame, also how the fuck is this so popular?

>>8773098

It got picked up by warner brothers japan

Well unfortunately we can't get Oum's medical records, wished any anon had some insider information.

>>8773029

Mostly because is fun, even if its pretty bad.

Think about it, is family friendly webseries you can watch for free, has an anime-ish look to it, tons of cute girls with cute outfits, good music, interesting fight choreographies, and the story is entry level deep. It can appeal to a lot of people.

>>8773189

Warner Brothers picks up a lot of stuff that isn't popular (yet).

Reminder that they helped publish Bastion before it got any coverage. I think WB might be keeping an eye out for IPs that may go far.

>>8776812

I mean he only needs 1 good shot anon unless of course he ends up fucking it up .

>>8774596

Thats true I guess but I want this series to crash and burn simply from the fact that I would love to see them justify the whole shitting on fans they do whenever they change something.

>>8700203

WHY ARE THE CHARACTERS SO FUCKING TINY COMPARED TO THE ENVIRONMENT

>>8721264

>>8721487

>>8721264

This. Autists obsess over details while normalfags ignore them because they cling to narratives

I guess the bump limit is almost reached, sucks that we can't get the medical records, without insider info.

>>8784793

brilliant idea

>>8784793

Well, you did get some good points anon.

>>8784793

Now who will actually do this shit?

>>8773625

>Well unfortunately we can't get Oum's medical records

What makes you say that? Did you try?

>>8784793

The idea is great, but yeah, keep in mind what >>8786020 said: most doctors won't give away medical records of his pacient to a anyone. It's against their ethical rules. I asked this on /rwby/ already, but, has anyone show this stuff to /x/? They like looking for clues on mysterious deaths and stuff like that.

>>8786020

Sure. I'm even considering downloading everything I need to start doing my own shit too, it really looks fun.

>>8786148

Yea, we should ask /x/ about Oum's death. Then maybe they'll have something interesting.

RWBY is dog shit and I'm glad Oum can't make it anymore.

Still, RIP though.

>>8790997

>Week early

Yea, pretty much shady.

>Don't you talk bad about her she's a sweet angle to good for this world!

Why the fuck are these retards so delusional?

>>8790997

Would you mind spoonfeeding me a little on what I need to download to set up for playing around with the models like that?

>>8795870

Doubt that would work to be honest. Most tumblr people are probably the kind of deluded fans that worship Sheena because she was Monty's kawaii muse and shit. Or the kind of fans that 'Don't want to tame Monty's memory with dark stuff like that'.

I think we'll do better if we wait until we have a really solid proof to spread it to tumblr or rt.

>>8796155

Pretty much this, we needed to make enough evidence to make it solid proof. Right now we're busy trying to find Oum's Doctor.

>>8796155

Not that anon, but you will need either Unity and/or Blender. If I recall other anon is using Unity.

>>8796507

This is fun but needs an update.

RWBYg:

>Accepts RWBY's flaws and treats it like the guilty pleasure that it is.

>Can view the show with an objective and critical mindset, revealing its many flaws but also allowing superior enjoyment of its good points.

>Fixated on sexuality and fetishes.

>Produces a lot of fan content but is largely tainted by the above point, to the point mods it gets reported and deleted.

>Takes an individual waifu, and sometimes likes an unlikely pairing between characters, but focuses upon shaming people with a different choice.

>Dislikes the rest of the fanbase (includying themselves) even if a lot of the posted content comes from them.

>>8797131

The updated version was pretty much true.

>>8797436

Thanks, I have been avoiding unity for too long, guess it's finally time to give it a try.

Sadly the only thing I have ever used for making animations is MMD. Is kinda difficult to get used to it at the beginning, but once you get a little bit of practice you can make good stuff with it. I have seen pretty impresive shit online animated there. It also has Kinect support, so you can make motion capture as a basis, and then polish it manually to get it to look decent. Don't know if you can export those animations to something Unity compatible though.

So, any anons thinking about posting this mystery to /x/? We should continue digging this.

>>8806229

If you think you got something. Probably could use something more concrete though.

>>8803020

Good to hear. I'll give it a try, good luck with yours.