cd3056 No.8721036
FALLOUT THREAD
What are you:
SHOOTAN?
SMASHAN?
SLICAN?
SURVIVAN?
CRAFTAN?
QUESTAN?
LOVAN?
HATAN?
729c31 No.8721051
>>8721036
stop using that shit template
88fb7c No.8721065
>>8721036
Playing Fallout 2 with a weak ass character trying to get into the Sierra military depot but keep getting shredded by the turret sentries. Any tips on how to take care of them? Ive was able to walk past them following a very specific path where I was able to make my way without entering into their range of fire. But now I have to go take the howtzer shell to warehouse to blow up a path into the base or something.
31fa9f No.8721078
I'm playing Underrail before the fallout games, but I will get to them eventually. I unfortunately quit the first fallout since I played the game on my laptop, but then it broke.
cd3056 No.8721081
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Third for Cass.
>>8721051
>saging a general
Pep.
>>8721065
>a weak ass character
Found your problem.
31fa9f No.8721087
Also, please stop using that template. You could have posted magnet links or charts for newfags.
d2bb4d No.8721093
>>8721065
nigger theres a pillbox entrance to the bunker outside of the turret range
cd3056 No.8721094
>>8721081
Damnit.
>>8721087
Sorry Master Anon. My first post in weeks and I am a little drunk.
2f7af4 No.8721096
>>8721036
>Fallout
>Crafting
What a wonderful dubs thread
89b6cf No.8721105
>>8721096
Fuck off nigger this is a general.
cd3056 No.8721114
>>8721096
There was crafting in New Vegas – I'm not talking about Fallout 4.
31fa9f No.8721160
>>8721094
Well, please try to avoid posting drunk, anon. It reduces you INT temporarely, and as much as vidya tells you that it increases your CHR, it actually decreases it.
a6ba2e No.8721182
>>8721036
NORMALFAG THREAD
What are you:
FUCKAN?
DRINKAN?
DRUGGAN?
BULLYIAN?
WORKAN?
(also pretend ur gmer so fatses not attak u! say u like one of the kool gams like fallot 4 or cod 3 black warfare or fatsos will h8! uv bin warned m8s!
cd3056 No.8721218
>>8721160
I do feel stronger, though…
Bumping with some pics.
31fa9f No.8721241
>>8721218
>>8721224
Dumping such pics really offers nothing new, mate. In-game screenshots would have been better since they actually offer something to discuss about
cd3056 No.8721244
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a6ba2e No.8721250
fuck you cripplecuck that's not what I uploaded. fix your fucking website
89b6cf No.8721257
4a589a No.8721278
>>8721081
>saging a general
Extreme newfag. A general isn't a sticky or cyclical unless it's made into one.
a6ba2e No.8721321
>>8721282
stop bumping this shit you faggot, clearly no one is interested in your Chad thread. Fuck off to fagbook and ask your cool friendo's to talk about fagout with you.
b34dd1 No.8722002
Anyone has that one video that explains how to make skyrim into a playable more classic RPG?
I'm installing porn mods and I need a scapegoat.
2e1f04 No.8722208
>>8721160
Not true. Moderate intoxication shifts your CHA a little away from the average. If your sober CHA is below average it gets lower, if it is above it gets higher. Anything beyond moderate intoxication shits on all your stats tho.
eb1026 No.8726805
I want blackoutfag and the faggout nazi to fuck off from these threads.
31fa9f No.8726835
>>8722002
No, it's impossible. I tried, but I couldn't.
d84500 No.8726859
>Fallout 1 and 2 have been ruined by 3 and 4
>you can't even talk about the original games without people shitting up the threads
0cfd2f No.8726993
>played Fallout years and years ago, formative part of my gaming youth
>same goes for FO2
>get hype by FO3 trailer, then find the game itself merely amicable
>love the absolute shit out of FO:NV
>been playing it since release
>only just now, on what is easily my 20th+ playthrough, play through the DLCs (excluding Honest Hearts, did that once a few years ago)
Why on earth did the quality vary so sharply between the 4 add-ons? HH was passable, DM was god awful, OWB was by and far the shining jewel of the pack, and LR was over in less than 2 hours. I'm glad I didn't pay full price for all of them.
Also, Ulysses was hyped up so much throughout the entirety of the story, yet I felt incredibly let down when I finally learned his history. Oh boo-hoo, some settlement got accidentally nuked while you were there. This is a post-apocalyptic world, destruction of this magnitude is pretty commonplace. Get over it, you giant pansy.
Love the elite riot armor, though.
2976da No.8727189
>>8726993
>DM was god awful
>LR was over in less than 2 hours
>can't handle the Dungeon Master of all Monty Hauls
>probably walked straight to the Silo, and really thought Ulysses was meant to be taken seriously
He's a fucking pisstake on the Nameless One from Planescape, you donkey.
eea0af No.8727309
>>8721321
You are not the content gatekeeper of 8chan. Fuck off.
>>8726993
Dead Money isn't awful, it's just different, which I can appreciate because as an add on it brings something new to the table. It gets a little annoying near the end with the radios but most people whining about it just need to git fucking gud.
LR Is interesting but ultimately feels like an inferior Dead Money since it has a very similar grim atmosphere, the antagonist is neat but ultimately I feel like his reveal and his motive fell kind of flat. His hate boner for the Courier sort of feels unnecessary and shoehorned, I don't know if I just didn't pay close enough attention or if my memory's just a little clouded since I kind of rushed through it at the end of my playthrough, but I'd consider it second weakest next to Honest Hearts, which despite adding a nice chunk of explorable land is pretty damn dull and not being able to bring all your gear is a retarded unnecessary limitation.
>>8727189
>You just don't GET IT man!
That's a pretty gay justification if it's the actual intent.
2976da No.8727555
>>8727309
>that's a pretty gay
You don't say, anon?
ffd783 No.8735319
Fallout Fukushima Five years on
10 March 2011
8d652c No.8742373
I'm playing Fallout 2 for the first time and I have no idea where to sell shit. I haven't found any merchants with a decent supply of money and both me and my companions are constantly at full capacity because I have so many expensive guns.
62f648 No.8742519
>>8726805
I just got into thread, don't be a fag.
also I normally don't sage.
And faggout is shit but Todd saved the crap franchise from avelone lore breaking garbage that was NV.
630c66 No.8742755
>>8742373
Vault City has some good vendors. Stimpacks are weightless and expensive, so they're excellent for currency conversion.
There are several extremely high-end merchants in san fran (very bottom left of the map), but do know that there is an annoying bug where if you stock an inventory with too many different items (including your car trunk) your skill button will get blacked out. It still works, but it looks like shit.
For now, just fix the car and dump your shit in your trunk. To make the guns stack properly and take up less "unique" space, load them with the same ammo type and then unload them, since they have a different "id" if loaded with JHP vs FMJ for example.
Have fun, anon. Fallout 2 is by far the best game in the series.
2f9ea0 No.8742806
>all these newfags don't understand that fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are good.
I know you popped over on the anti-hype train for Fallout 4, but 4chan is more your type of meme and speed, friends.
>>8721036
>What are you:
I'm trying to get the Fallout mod for EU4 so I can take to all of America and conquest, but you need either a steam copy or legit copy in order to get it from anywhere trustworthy.
Failing that, I was thinking of getting back into Vegas
96e77f No.8742810
>>8742519
Even the robot, goddamn.
<Determined beeping>
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a04042 No.8742947
> tfw the Enclave was supposed to make this Country great again
A-America is b-b-back, right guys?
775898 No.8742954
What the fuck's up with shitposting.
Anyway, I'm waiting for Frontier to come out and give me a reason to reinstall the game(which implies redownloading all those fucking mods and using nvedit to make everything work again).
0da184 No.8743022
Should Bethesda give up and sell the Fallout IP after the mess that was Fallout 4? What developer would give it a good go?
Has anyone ever played Shadowrun returns, that would be interesting as a fallout game
775898 No.8743025
>>8743022
That implies they'll sell their second biggest cash cow.
0da184 No.8743050
>>8743025
I mean if making good quality games was their aim, not making loads of money.
fd3cff No.8743131
should I play through new vegas again or play 2 for the first time?
if new vegas what mods should I go with
0ab200 No.8743138
>>8726993
>Also, Ulysses was hyped up so much throughout the entirety of the story, yet I felt incredibly let down when I finally learned his history. Oh boo-hoo, some settlement got accidentally nuked while you were there. This is a post-apocalyptic world, destruction of this magnitude is pretty commonplace. Get over it, you giant pansy.
I think it fails because primarily because of narration trying to go beyond "setpiece rollercoaster adventures". This results in utter failure of communicating "that town and any other form of settlement with more then 10 people is precious in wastelands" to players.
It only gets worse when the main game is about two super powers of wasteland fighting over the biggest (or at least best preserved) city (built mostly with shit brown half destroyed assets of FO3 but still) and a functioning Hoover Dam..
775898 No.8743141
>>8743131
>he haven't played 2 yet
Brace yourself, fagola, and play it.
1c7dcf No.8743429
>>8742954
There is a MAXIMUM AUTISM Bethesdrone who gets assblasted every single time someone makes a FO thread that isn't specifically about Todd's games, just take his posts to the trash where they belong along with Todd.
2f9ea0 No.8743450
>>8743131
You should stop using a flag, fag. Filtered.
1f12d1 No.8744125
GAS THE NCR
GAS THE LEGION
GAS THE BOS
GAS HOUSE
NUCLEAR WAR NOW!
REESTABLISH THE ENCLAVE
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
that being said, Independent > House > NCR > Legion
591420 No.8744136
>>8744125
From the thumbnail, I thought the first picture showed a bunch of Jar Jar Binks. Maybe I'd play that piece of shit game if it had Jar Jar Binks
a04042 No.8745849
>>8744125
FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
697573 No.8746571
>Thought Fallout 4 was rather mediocre from a gameplay standpoint but couldn't pinpoint why, as I could understand in terms of shooter mechanics it's leaps and bounds above Fallout 3 and New Vegas
>Managed to get a hold of the DLC early through a leak on /fog/
>Build a character based around settlement and equipment construction, very basic offensive capabilities
>Make my own custom robot followers
>Have significantly more fun with the game
Tesla armor is back by the way, pic related.
ba1903 No.8746622
Should I pirate FO4? Off for a vacation from uni, so I want to get some good vidya done. I haven't played anything new since last summer, so I want to make sure I imbile good shit. I just finished binging on XCOM 2, and I'd really like another new game I can just get lost in for days on end.
e690c9 No.8746632
>>8746622
Don't bother tbh
e61868 No.8746720
>>8746622
>should I pirate FO4
If you're curious, why not.
>I want to get some good vidya
In that case don't get FO4.
f6a6a0 No.8746759
>>8746571
The DLC is the beta version, right? Notice any issues?
697573 No.8746813
>>8746759
So far the only issues I've noticed are
>Robots with treads will frequently run into the Workshop house in Sanctuary and get stuck
>Robots will clip through artificial floors where they're assigned to e.g. scavenging stations and get stuck
>The fight with the Mechanist has a tendency to CTD the game if you destroy the robots one by one with the Robotics Expert perk
Tesla Gun is pretty cool, it arcs lightning between targets and deals a fuckton of damage when you modify it so it's a charging shotgun.
ed8e43 No.8746860
>>8726993
>he doesnt like dead money
Go back to reddit, fag.
9fe2ff No.8746911
Fallout 2 = best of them all
New Vegas = almost as good as 2
Fallout 1 = pretty good
Fallout tactics = fun gameplay but shit story, not canon not a real fallout game
Fallout 3 = basically just a fallout themed mod for Oblivion. Shit story, shit gameplay, bad dialogue
Fallout 4 = haven't played it, just going to assume it's terrible. I'm sure the world is pretty though.
How did I do?
697573 No.8746931
>>8746911
Fallout > New Vegas > Fallout 2 > Fallout 4 > Shit > Fallout 3
Fallout 4 may not have much in terms of in-game story roleplaying, but the gameplay elements it has puts it far beyond Fallout 3 which was just shit all round.
c6c584 No.8747979
>>8746571
>was rather mediocre from a gameplay standpoint but couldn't pinpoint why
It's because, as a shooter, it is indeed better than NV or 3. But that's not saying much because those sucked as shooters anyway. You need tons of mods to correct weapons and even collision meshes in the scenery to make it decent.
However, Fallout was supposed to be an RPG, and if they said instead "it's an action game now", some people would be upset but not so much as making an RPG where the RPG mechanics feel so disconnected from the gameplay. Where at best they don't impact it significantly and at worst just gate content. You can't build a lot of things in your settlement until you have the proper perks, for instance.
The thing is, there's no replayability. I am still amazed at how many people are talking about "builds" in FO4 when it theory you could grind XP to adquire all stats and all perks eventually. And it's not like you even need them all, most are meaningless shit like "extra caps from containers" that you are never gonna notice.
You don't even get many choices that actually have any impact to make, so starting a new character only differs in what perks you get first, not which ones you actually get.
It's terrible as an RPG, but somewhat decent as a shooter. However, it's announced as an RPG and sucks compared to actually good shooters.
c6c584 No.8748157
Since this is the Fallout General, I might as well post it here.
Did everyone that liked New Vegas actually liked the Mojave Desert?
I liked almost all the characters in pretty much everyone, and some of the landmarks where quite cool as well. But the entire desert felt terrible boring. Like there was nothing but a big plain of nothing inbetween places.
I'm not saying there should be a tomb filled with Draugr every 5 meters, but a desert doesn't seem like a very interesting terrain and a lot of it could be gone or replaced with hills, crags and canyons and the whole thing would be better.
Borderlands actually had a neat starting zone with an area that had a lot more interesting features and a terrain that was actually more interesting than a simple desert.
From small camps that raiders had to caves out of which animals cave, to variations in altitude…
I understand that they are entirely different games, but even FO3 had a somewhat better worldmap (sometimes) because there was more detail around, even if just some rubble around. At least it beats a plain desert.
I've also heard the argument that many settlements in FO3 were complitely ridiculous and unrealistic, while NV had ones that made much more sense. But here's the thing… Some of them weren't particulary interesting, whereas in FO3, many of them were unique and interesting.
Take for instance, Goodsprings. It's a town with a few farms, a saloon, general shop and sources of water nearby. Even a doctor and a school. It makes perfectly sense but it's also quite bland and boring.
Freeside was also mostly uninteresting on it's own, entirely forgettable where it not for the Kings.
Novad had a funny name and a giant Dinosaur, but nothing else to it.
Nipton had the thing with the Legion crucifixing people but entirely generic otherwise.
The military encampments on both sides were also fairly similar, but that's understandable I guess.
Meanwhile, FO3 had a city built inside a carrier, a city built in a cratter, a city built in a gigantic tower, a city filled with only kids, a city with all the adults kicked from the previous city, a city built on top of a bridge, a city built inside a museum…
I mean, none of those cities make any fucking sense, and some are plain retarded. But at least most of them are at least a bit interesting.
Wouldn't it have been better to have those cities be better developed so they weren't so retarded instead of scrapping them altogether for (mostly) generic cities that aren't interesting at all?
Like Megaton having some large depot where they trade stuff with passing caravans, as well as a farmland surrounding it, maybe in another crater connected by a tunnel. Or Little Lamplight explaining where they get the kids from (maybe offsprings from Big Town, sent there for safety)
Just saying that although NV is indeed better than FO3 in pretty much every way, some things were lost in the transition and not for the best…
0ab200 No.8748379
>>8748157
Mojaves biggest problem was size to me; it feels like all of the towns should have been more like "a bed, bunch of side quests to fleshout the area a bit and only civilization you will see for next hour of travel" with New Vegas actually being impressive instead of being fucking empty and locked behind 3 loading screens. And making the "emptiness" even larger could have been compansated with the fucking train functioning at least between the quarry and airport or a fucking car.
After all it is a console game for inferior hardware no matter how much you and I like it.
9fe2ff No.8748488
The most important thing that NV got right was that it "felt" like a fallout game. Fallout 1 and 2 were my favorite games as a wee lad and NV gave me the same fallout-y feelings. The dark humor, the dialogue, the quests all just felt right to me. Fallout 3 had none of that, I just felt like I was playing Oblivion.
697573 No.8748539
>>8748488
Bethesda is very schizophrenic when it comes to quality in writing. I know for a fact that there are writers there who can match the grim humour of the old games because I've seen it in the Mechanist DLC. You enter a RobCo factory that had an entire section dedicated to the creation of Robobrains and there are terminals belonging to the division dedicated to processing prisoners. Some sick shit in there like the brain cake and chugging the brain fluid of a failed test subject on a dare, then wondering why the rest of the RobCo staff think they're a bunch of nutjobs they want nothing to do with.
a55e64 No.8748557
The Perfect modern, i'm sorry isometric rpg fans Fallout Game
>created by Obsidian Entertainment
>Avellone brought back, head writer
>Tim Cain as game director
>500$ million budget
>5 year time limit
>a better character design team
>dedicated bug fix team :^)
b2248a No.8748583
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Someone make a webm of this please.
2f9ea0 No.8749316
>>8748583
Hope mp4 is okay-dokay
2f9ea0 No.8749347
Also what happened to that guy who'd always post his waifu in pics related? I hope he's still having fun with her.
fafab1 No.8749417
New Vegas was the pinnacle of the series
2f9ea0 No.8749430
>>8749417
That's hardly an unpopular opinion.
fafab1 No.8749510
>>8749430
Some people are very dedicated in the support of 1 & 2. But for me New Vegas lifted the series beyond the first two games.
312483 No.8749525
>>8746571
>tesla armor isnt Enclave based, but its Beth"s OC power armor
Not very surprised that they wouldnt stop to try alienate the fanbase even more with DLC.
>>8746931
FO4 might be better than Brotherhood of Steel, but this isnt a big achievement after all.
2f9ea0 No.8750049
>>8749510
I like F1 and F2, but Fallout is basically a new franchise since Bethesda brought the IP and ran it through the mud.
Might as well have OldFallout and NewFallout distinguishers between the two now.
9c0dcc No.8750485
>>8746571
Is the leak still there or could I suck your dick for it? I'm desperate….
6d99e2 No.8750507
>fo4
>exterminating all synths
why won't it let me kill detective shithead
96e77f No.8750527
>>8746571
Can you date your robots?
2f9ea0 No.8750547
>>8750218
You know what continuously pisses me off about fallout?
You got these factions like Enclase and the Brotherhoods and the Institute capable of making all kind of this advanced shit that shouldn't exist due to the simple lack of infrastructure to harvest the materials required to make said advanced shit, yet somehow, somehow joe and jane average of the wasteland still hasn't figured out how to make a new house. Not how to cut trees to make wooden houses or how to make concrete to make new concrete ones.
How many years has it been? And these fuckers still can't build new homes. In fallout 1 and 2 some people had manage to make Adobe-walled houses at least.
>>8750527
Given how you had to turn Curie into a synth human in order to date her I'm going to say not a chance.
697573 No.8750559
>>8750485
It's in the archives on /vg/ somewhere, the link I have has expired.
>>8750527
Based on the current content, no. However there's no guarantee Bethesda isn't adding or changing stuff for the actual release of the DLC. This is after all a closed beta test.
103592 No.8750568
>>8726993
>epin maymay pic
>hating dead money
DELET THIS -__-
9c0dcc No.8750643
>>8750559
I feel like a retard looking for this thing, ah well back to modding for 3 hours than playing for 3 minutes.
2f9ea0 No.8750693
>>8750559
Is that an attempt to make Mr Handy's look more like their original concept? I guess they're just re-purposed the Power Armour customization system for each type of droid?
103592 No.8750694
>>8748157
>But the entire desert felt terrible boring. Like there was nothing but a big plain of nothing inbetween places.
Atleast it's incredibly realistic
Source: I live in this fucking desert hell and there havent even been any nukes and it looks just like the game.
Patrolling the mohave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
103592 No.8750696
>>8750694
flag fuck off pls
2f9ea0 No.8750700
Filter flagfags, don't reply to them.
>>8750559
>>8750693
Uh, wrong image.
9c0dcc No.8750801
>>8750643
Nevermind I got the link, I would put it up here but will I get a slap on the ass for doing so? Or should I put up like my steam and i'll pm it to anyone who wants it.
54f058 No.8750860
>>8749525
>implying the BoS wouldn't reverse-engineer the shit out of Tesla Armor and use it widely
697573 No.8750922
I would advise not using mods with the DLC in its current state, it really throws the game stability out the window.
The DLC starts at Lv15, and if you want the most out of it you pretty much NEED all of the builder perks (Armorer, Blacksmith, Gun Nut, Science!) and the Robotics Expert perk on top of that.
2f9ea0 No.8750956
>>8750922
I love it when a game decides what skills you must have while letting you pick whatever before letting you know what's needed.
c6c584 No.8750979
>>8750694
But that was my whole point.
It might be realistic, but it's not interesting nor fun.
Same for the cities and towns. All of them make sense and are credible, but utterly dull.
In contrast, Fallout3 had these incredibly absurd cities that have no way to sustain themselves for longer than a week, but at least they were fun and interesting.
And the weirdest thing is that Obsidian made NV, not 3. They are the ones supposed to write places that are incredibly fucked up but actually make sense in their world.
The explanation for Fallout 3 is pretty simple. A lot of the team working on it clearly treated the game as if the bombs fell off about 6 months ago. Thus all the debris, patchwork building and lack of infrastructure.
Even Lamplight makes sense when you assume the war happened maybe at best 5 years ago. It's in the logs that it was an expedition to those caves that got stuck once the bombs fell. If the war had happened recently, those kids are the ones trapped there.
But for Fallout New Vegas, there's no explanation for going with a desert except to recapture the spirit of F1 and F2. However, those games had fast travel, as in you traveled the world map in that topographic map (which was pretty cool). Having an entire empty boring desert that you must cross manually while playing the game was always a terrible idea. And most of the towns you find on 1 and 2 are also patchwork stuff with people trying to get by, while on NV most places seem to be doing quite well on their own, as if there never was a nuke that fell off in that general area.
697573 No.8750980
>>8750956
To be fair, when you're building robots it's no surprise you need all these perks. It does help encourage tinker characters that don't need to focus on guns themselves.
57d4b1 No.8750989
Why the fuck is leveling up in Fallout 2 so fucking hard? Why do I need to do quests perfectly in order to get maximum XP and keep up with the game? I hate this kind of getting XP from quests bullshit, it takes away the freedom. Why can't it be like Morrowind where there's so much freedom in gaining skill points?????
2f9ea0 No.8751118
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>>8750980
Of course its no surprise you'd need those skills to work with robots, but to be fair to make an 'RPG' that requires a specific skill set for its DLC from the core game is retarded. They should make new skills for you to spec into for this DLC, not force you to remake a character to get those skills easily I don't know if re-specializing is a thing in Fallout 4, but either way it would be retarded.
b6a155 No.8751142
>all this talk of FO3 and FO4
>barely anybody talking about the actually good games in the series
>>8750989
git gud
2f9ea0 No.8751164
>>8751142
>people aren't talking about X
>better just complain instead of encouraging a discussion about X
57d4b1 No.8751196
>>8751142
>shit, over simplistic game design
>git gut
yeah, git cucked reddit.
312483 No.8751234
>>8750979
I think that FO 3 was supposed to be a soft-reboot, were the MC is born in the day the bombs fell, but Bethesda changed the date for reasons, who knows.
Its said by House, that himself shot down almost all the nukes before they could hit Vegas. Plus at this point people are rebuilding or building infrastructure and NV is 39 years after FO 2, giving enough time for rebuilding to take place. Since FO1 people were starting to build and produce their own shit already, 80 years after the bombs fell, only FO 3 kept the retard idea of permanent post-apoct.
As a matter of fact according to Bethesda/Obsidian/original lore, the west and mid-west were the only parts to get shit done while the east is inhabited by dumb retards fucks. The BoS that bethdrones praised and now hate, are a western thing.
>>8750989
Its mostly about how much patience you have, FO 2 isnt that free but have tons of content.
You can savescum if you are a scrub.
did you played FO 1 ?
7fa813 No.8751250
>>8751164
He went on to reply to somebody talking about FO2, m8000.
>>8751196
FO2 really isn't like a modern open world game, anon. If you don't like rules like that being laid down then you probably shouldn't be playing it.
51ec2d No.8751252
I installed Project Nevada and started a new character, and HOLY SHIT, everything is so fucking STRONG. I was promised a weird sort of Heaven or Hell kind of game baalance where everything is squishy, including you, but I'm getting Hell or Hell instead. I die in maybe four shots from your generic raider, and said generic raider takes maybe eight shots from my shitty varmint rifle.
I mean, I know it's a shitty varmint rifle, but for fucks sake the enemy's using the same goddamn gun in the same goddamn armor.
Tempted to roll an energy weapons character. Maybe it's just a guns thing?
2f9ea0 No.8751273
>>8751234
>I think that FO 3 was supposed to be a soft-reboot
I think writers just don't care both for Fallout 1 and 2 or for integrity of the universe.
>>8751250
>He went on to reply to somebody talking about FO2, m8000.
>reply
>"git gud"
Sure thing, bud. That'll totally encourage discussion about the good Fallouts.
b6a155 No.8751306
>>8751252
I always wanted to make an energy weapons character, but the ammo for energy weapons is so fucking heavy in hardcore mode. Carrying 200 MFCs will weigh 20lb unless you're carrying optimized ones or have that skill that reduces the weight of light items.
>>8751196
You honestly don't sound like the kind of person who'd like FO2, you should stop playing it if it's frustrating you. Don't just force yourself through a game if you're not having fun.
9c0dcc No.8751341
Anyone know where to get a shit ton of steel? These robots take a lot and i'm autistic so I have 200 aluminum but 4 steel.
57d4b1 No.8751343
>>8751234
>Its mostly about how much patience you have, FO 2 isnt that free but have tons of content
What's the point of having so much content, but little opportunity to exploit them? I have tried to hack the game to get 1 billion golds so I can get the best guns and armors I can buy, but still combating enemies is a bitch and I still have to grind the fuck out. It's stupid.
Morrowind can be a hard game if you want to play it in a "vanilla" way, but there are so much subtle things I can exploit which makes the game becomes more exciting.
>>8751250
>>8751306
But the quests and dialogs are fun…
221490 No.8751423
>>8748157
I like it that way because the Mojave is indeed just a big stretch of nothing. I've attended Wasteland Weekends a few times, which is located in the Mojave. Basically Mad Max themed party hosted by Humongous himself.
2f9ea0 No.8751440
>>8751423
I assume all Caesar's Legion cosplayers are also Mad Max cosplayers as well.
b6a155 No.8751471
>>8751440
>>8751450
But there weren't any women in the legion.
2fbe68 No.8751484
>>8743022
Fallout 4 is a better Fallout game than Fallout 3. At least they took a couple steps in the right direction, Only to take three or so back mechanically but hey, could be worse.
221490 No.8751516
>>8751484
There absolutely no role-playing aspects in 4, it's Far Cry: Wasteland. I didn't think it could get lower than 3, but Shitthesda outdid themselves. So in conclusion I disagree, sir.
2f9ea0 No.8751529
>>8751471
You want to be surrounded by soldier men is what you're saying, profligate?
Well the NCR is more open to your kind.
What's with Fallout and fangirls? They lost their shit over the Legion and Boone, and now they've lost their shit over Hancock from Fallout 4. Girls are a real abstract kind of fucking stupid weird at times.
e3af49 No.8751543
>>8727189
>He's a fucking pisstake on the Nameless One from Planescape, you donkey.
I.. It makes sense now. How could I never notice?
b6a155 No.8751561
>>8751484
>Fallout 4 is a better Fallout game than Fallout 3
It's not even a Fallout game outside the name.
>At least they took a couple steps in the right direction
Like completely removing any aspects of role-playing and making it an outright open-world shooter with a "fucktons of gun; most of them useless" weapon system à la Borderlands?
2fbe68 No.8751594
>>8751516
There's less in terms of bullshit you can make up about your character, but there are several unique factions in the game that you can join and follow to the conclusion of the game.
While in those factions you can take pretty different approaches to how you handle the quests that get thrown at you.
There's some, at least. I do agree that Beth took a nice steamy dump on a lot of what makes roleplaying a rewarding experience with it's early-onset railroading and shitty voiced protagonist, but it took a lot of steps in the right direction besides those two colossal fuck ups.
And don't get me wrong, they are colossal, I couldn't even stomach playing the game until I got a mod that removed the player voice and fixed the dialogue system.
But the game ultimately fits a lot better into the universe than 3 ever did, and there's at least a variety of factions you can join with wildly different views that conflict and have entirely different quests from one another. In New Vegas, despite it's emphasis on the faction system, each faction only had a handful of unique quests to themselves.
Not to sound like a shill, but it is better than Shitout 3 in almost every way.
e3af49 No.8751602
>>8751450
>>8751440
They have surprisingly good trigger discipline.
>>8751561
Fallout 1, 2, and NV make up the core game trilogy. NV wraps up the setting pretty well thematically, with its "…but men can change, and if they do then maybe there will be no need for war".
Tactics and Beth games are spinoffs.
2fbe68 No.8751605
>>8751602
Beth should have just gone with the original plan and called 3 a fucking reboot. You can practically feel that's how it originally started.
b6a155 No.8751614
>>8751602
Don't put Tactics and Fall of Duty in the same category, Tactics is actually a good game.
ca35c2 No.8751662
>>8751605
Honestly, I just think they underestimated Obsidian.
Right from the start you can tell FNV was meant to be used to absorb Obsidian like they did with Arkane Studios and Dishonored. They never expected Obsidian to make a better fallout game than them on their own turf (by turf I mean the open word rpg setting that morrowind, oblivion and skyrim are set in). This type of setting was always Bethesdas niche, and you can tell lately how salty they are about how it went down, between barely recognizing the lore for FNV, retconning the fallout bible, refusing Obsidian their bonus, and other shit i've forgotten but we've talked about on /v/ before. Obsidian beat Bethesda at their own genre and Bethesda FUCKING HATED THAT. And all the constant fans of theirs saying their game is good, but nowhere near as amazing as FNV, and when will Obsidian make another like they did with FNV just rubs salt in the wound.
That's not to say Bethesda doesnt try tho. You can tell with the new Fallout 4 that they tried to emulate Obsidians type of plot with FNV, albeit badly. What with the whole seperate factions you have to help to become the leaders of the area, or have your own faction (minutemen or Yesman) take over with you in control. They even made the one massive central city idea like Obsidian did with FNV. Only problem is they kinda half assed the story, my guess is due to time constraints.
This is also why i don't expect we'll ever get another Obsidian made Fallout, which makes the whole Chris Avellone leaving moot. I really doubt Bethesda will ever let Obsidian within a mile of their IP again after the way they got shown up.
b770c4 No.8751682
Can we all just bitch about brotherhood of steel?
the fact is that nobody's mind is going to change about what they like, everyone is too stubborn to admit they're wrong.
9c0dcc No.8751701
>>8751682
Everyone just want's to ignore that the best Fallout is the app one. Prove me wrong, spoiler, you can't.
ca35c2 No.8751703
>>8751682
Brotherhood of Steel is so shit we dont have to. It's why no one ever even bothers to talk about it in the first place. It's like shitting on the new Tomb Raider reboots. there's no point as everyone knows its shit and there isnt really a reason to trash something so obvious.
b6a155 No.8751715
>>8751704
While there's definitely some shit art there, I don't think any of it is Shadman's.
ca35c2 No.8751733
>>8751715
Is he holding up chocolate because Shadman is into scat?
2f9ea0 No.8751736
>>8751704
None of that is shadmans stuff, ricky retardo.
2fbe68 No.8751750
>>8751662
What you said is totally accurate, you can tell Beth got pretty buttblasted when New Vegas came out and showed them how to do a proper RPG, with all their mechanics, and improve on the gameplay, all the while releasing a game that not even the most rabid of Bethfags can deny that it managed to be a better game than 3 and 4.
It's why they tried to push the 'DEEP AND EMOSHUNAAAL NARRATIVE!' during Fallout 4, though they pushed in all the wrong directions, like the aforementioned voiced protagonist and shoehorned familial element.
Still, I can appreciate a solid attempt on their part to at least kind of pay attention to what New Vegas did right. From fixing the Brotherhood of Steel's ideals to incorporating a pretty decent faction system I honestly had a harder time choosing between all the factions in 4 than I did New Vegas, Shandifying the world, and creating a plethora of companions with personality and likes/dislikes that you can get to follow you around. They even mentioned the NCR, so at least you know somebody is at least aware of the lore in the previous games to some extent. Boston itself fits a lot more within the timeframe the game's are currently set in aesthetically, in that it doesn't look like the bombs were dropped yesterday, there's some actual plantlife and a decent amount of civilization.
A few of Fallout's more widely known themes are present in the narrative as well, which is nice.
>We'll never get another Obsidian made Fallout again.
To be honest I'm pretty okay with that. New Vegas put a pretty decent cap on the franchise as a whole and I'm perfectly happy just playing 1, 2, New Vegas and calling it good. I don't think we'd really want another one considering the very realistic possibility that Obsidian is on the decline to Biocuck levels of disgusting.
b770c4 No.8751754
>>8751733
With or without nuts
2f9ea0 No.8751757
>>8751733
No, it's chocolate with nuts or without, much like shadman's tendency to make a version with cock and balls of every female drawing he does.
ca35c2 No.8751807
>>8750980
Run nigger, you just made the robo version of Jason!
>>8751750
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head with a lot of the examples I forgot. You can see Bethesda tried to emulate Obsidian with a lot of their decisions, it's just they're not as good with plot as Obsidian was, which ended up with them flat on their face. The factions in 4 were much more interesting true, the only issue being they were really barebones and pretty much all of them needed to be fleshed out (an example would be not being able to question shaun on why the institute is modifying people with FEV and torturing others), tho that prolly goes back into the time constraints shit.
I don't think they were referencing FNV tho when it came to the NCR. prolly just using the established lore for a cool background character, tho even in the flashbacks Kellogs mom shits on the NCR. I'm a bit worried they're gonna retcon FNV tho, due to the cabot guy talking about going back to the Mojave desert to find some city.
And yea, you're right with no more Obsidian games. Frankly, with how "progressive" Obsidian has gotten and their loss of Avelonne, I wouldn't trust them to make a proper sequel on par with the other 3.
>>8751754
>>8751757
Ahhhh, now I get it. Eww
9c0dcc No.8751816
Love my robot waifu, she can fight and her gun has an added bonus.
ca35c2 No.8751818
>>8751807
Oh, I meant to add in that I liked the change in the Brotherhood of Steel. They were much more interesting. Hated how Danse is inexplicably a Synth tho. And never uses these spy powers to help the Institute like how the NCR colonel in FNV tried to blow up the monorail.
d27301 No.8751833
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>>8751529
Because Hancock is a roguish character with a heart of gold, duh.
Boone brings out the "I want to love him and make him better" instinct
Both are also proficient at what they do, which is attractive
Not so abstract is it?
ca35c2 No.8751840
>>8751833
"Abstract"
They just like masculine men, hence their girl hardon for the Legion too. Hancock can be construed as a Han Solo type that's ambiguously good but also bad. And boon is fucked in the head and emotionally damaged. Pretty much the trifecta of bad boy types women usually love.
2f9ea0 No.8751851
>>8751833
What's abstract to me is he's a fucking disgusting, ass looking corpse faced ghoul and they think he's hot and draw him like his face is a good boy who dindu rot off.
d27301 No.8751854
>>8751840
Nigga that's literally what I just said.
d27301 No.8751871
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>>8751851
To be fair fallout 4 ghouls look way less assface than new vegas or 3. They should rot anyway, they should be basically severe burns victims
d27301 No.8751873
>>8751871
*shouldn't god damn
dac491 No.8751874
>>8751701
>crashes instead of loading the vault
It's probably my phone being shit but still, it gets 0/10 if i can't even try it.
ca35c2 No.8751887
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>>8751851
Women are usually much more attracted to power or mentality than appearance. Its why you often see those hot as fuck women with those fat slobs. Either the fat guys got money, or are masculine enough for them to want them. Its also why you often see 19 or 18 year olds get with 30 year olds or 40 year olds.
>>8751854
You were being obtuse about it. I cut right to the heart of it. They just like masculine men.
>>8751874
It's shit. I played it for like an hour and a half and every time i'd load it up i'd get attacked by deathclaws, which can somehow break through a vault door.
b6a155 No.8751918
>>8751816
What is up with that torso?
It looks like it has a breast plate.
d27301 No.8751925
>>8751887
The fact he is asking in the first place implies he does not understand masculinity/ female sexuality - hence I gave specific attributes pertaining to each character. I don't really understand this "women are magical mind mazes that are unsolvable" schtic
2f9ea0 No.8751940
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>>8751887
>Women are usually much more attracted to power or mentality than appearance.
>Its why you often see those hot as fuck women with those fat slobs.
I'm fairly certain it's money that does that.
2fbe68 No.8751954
>>8751807
>They're just not as good with writing
Which has been one of Beth's biggest issues. I get the feeling that the folks at Bethesda are a very tightly knit bunch, but they're in desperate need of a cleansing of their writing staff. Shit, they should just offer to give Avellone a fucking job, then Fallout would be mostly taken care of.
>They need some fleshing out
That's true, but I feel like it's less a constraint of time and more of the completely fucked dialogue system. You'll notice when talking to people in 4 you're given the chance to ask maybe one or two questions max per conversation, with it counting as an option in itself, and moving on from there. Really ninety percent of Fallout 4's issues could be removed with the implementation of a more traditional dialogue box and a silent protagonist.
>Kellog's mom shits on the NCR
That's not necessarily out of character for anyone in the universe though. The NCR in New Vegas were painted pretty negatively in a lot of conversations, and she seems to take offense mostly to the fact that they're trying to brainwash children with propaganda about how they're going to bring back the good ol' days.
>Bit worried they're gonna retcon FNV tho, due ot the cabot guy talking about going back to the Mojave desert to find some city
Right, the alien city supposedly hidden in the Mojave desert. It's totally possible we'll be getting a DLC that completely deletes New Vegas from current canon, would be the final middle finger from Beth to Obsidian. I find it more likely they'll just sort of tiptoe around the issue by not mentioning any of the goings on of New Vegas or the current state of the Mojave by just sending you directly to the alien city and calling it good. We'll just have to wait and see though, I suppose.
>I wouldn't trust them to make a proper sequel on par with the other 3.
That's how I feel about it. Modern Obsidian is slipping down a very dangerous slope, and without Avellone, who, to be fair, didn't write everything in New Vegas Just most of the really good shit it'd be a definite blow to the quality.
>>8751816
So is the new DLC actually out or is this just from the leak? I checked the store today and didn't see any ways to DL it, I'm actually kind of interested in seeing what it has to offer.
>>8751818
Turning the Brotherhood back into the kind of dickish tech hoarding jerks with a smattering of 40K Inquisitor was nice, I agree.
>Hated how Danse is inexplicably a synth though.
I actually haven't gotten a chance to do the quest myself, since I sided against the Brotherhood in both my playthroughs, but I think it makes for a kind of neat twist on his character. Him not using it in order to spy on the Institute is likely more that The Brotherhood would never trust him to actually manage to do such a thing, and even if you end that quest in the best possible way his relationship with them could be considered strained at best.
>>8751851
Women are about the emotional bro. I guess I might just not be able to judge though because I'd totally fuck some Fallout Universe robots.
9c0dcc No.8751964
>>8751918
The assault trons have that along with a female robot voice, kinda like the whole agile female assassin thing going.
9c0dcc No.8751974
>>8750829
>>8751954
Leaked DLC files are there, if that link doesn't work I have another that will. It's pretty cool.
2f9ea0 No.8751995
>>8751954
>I guess I might just not be able to judge though because I'd totally fuck some Fallout Universe robots.
I hear that.
All I want is to roam the Mojave with an eyebot with a radio, laser pistol, and fleshlight hatch installed ;_;
2fbe68 No.8752009
>>8751974
Neat, I'd consider giving it a go but it doesn't work terribly well with mods apparently. I'd rather wait. Thanks anyway though, anon.
>>8751995
>You'll never wander the Wasteland with your lovable robot sidekick with moddable vibrating fleshlight attachments
>You'll never be able to reprogram her with any number of waifu subroutines, from tsundere dominatrix to loving housewife.
A man can dream… and mod
2f9ea0 No.8752026
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>>8752009
The last fallout sex mod ignored robots entirely. I expect with the Assaultron's they might include it this time around, but I just doubt they'll add anything outside the Assaultron robots to it.
9c0dcc No.8752027
>>8752009
I have a few mods going so far so good, I think mods that effect major things will mess with it like AI or something.
2fbe68 No.8752054
>>8752026
I think with the positively insane modding community that's going to crop up for Fallout 4 robosex is a given, they also have a bigger emphasis and more characters than ever are robots.
The addition of more 'female' robots are going to help. Assaultrons, like you mentioned, but there's also the new Mrs. Nanny bots. I'm sure there'll be some suitable robofucking at some point or another.
The Mechanist also opens up a whole new realm of lewd possibilities.
>>8752027
I have a pretty big overhaul for The Minutemen installed but since I killed Garvey this playthrough I don't think they have any presence in the worldspace. Does the dialogue overhaul work? I'm not playing with that one word shit dialogue wheel.
9c0dcc No.8752070
>>8752054
I have the Dialogue overhaul it works fine. Minutemen shouldn't really effect the DLC, it's got like it's own groups.
b6a155 No.8752072
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0b96aa No.8752074
>borrow a console version of FO4 from a friend
>get a "legendary" shotgun from a "legendary" radroach at like level fucking 4
>it's better than all the end game weapons
legendaries were a fucking mistake
2f9ea0 No.8752084
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>>8752072
Just surrender yourself, or we'll send out our ultimate robot to get you.
2fbe68 No.8752102
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>>8752070
Neat, I'll be sure to check it out anon, thanks.
>>8752072
Embrace the cold steely hands of the robot waifus.
>>8752084
That dog barking fucking kills me every time.
b6a155 No.8752372
>>8752102
JESUS CHRIST, GET IT TO A MECHANIC AND KEEP IT AWAY FROM FLAMES
IT'S LEAKING OIL
2f9ea0 No.8752395
>>8752290
Night anon, thanks for the images.
ccff9e No.8753434
>>8751252
It gets even worse
>old world blues
>super sledge fuckers wearing full powerarmor
>get one-shotted by lobotomites with hunting revolvers from 50ft away
Project Nevada is shit.
7429bc No.8753841
I imagined that the White Glove Society came from Vault 36. Well that is the least bad outcome that I could think of for Vault 36.
>>8751682
>Can we all just complain about shit the toilet instead of shit served in a plate?
ftfy
ccff9e No.8753887
>>8753841
>Vault 34
So, what happened to it? Everyone shot each other instantly, because as every librul knows the moment you're handed a firearm you go on a murderous rampage?
697573 No.8753901
>>8751918
Welcome to the wonderful world of Assaultrons, one of the best things Bethesda ever added to the Fallout world.
They're based on those sci-fi chrome robot women you'd see in artwork from the 50s and 60s.
96e77f No.8753955
>>8753887
They just fucked the guns.
7429bc No.8754013
>>8753887
They became the Boomers in Fallout: New Vegas.
ce4295 No.8754027
>>8752054
Neither the Japs nor the Loverslab modders ever made any /clang/ for Fallout. Nobody even bothered replacing the Fade-to-black scene with FISTO. Instead people made anmiations of being fucked and impregnated by Bloatflies.
It shouldn't be to difficult to use human animations and poses on humanoid robots like Synths and Assaultrons but unless someone suddenly decides to make new skeletons, meshes and Animations for all the other robots you shouldn't get your hopes up you disgusting robot-fuckers
54567d No.8754099
>>8753887
They've became Boomers.
7429bc No.8754101
>>8753841
>Vault 42
>No light bulbs of more than 40 watts
The LED light bulbs that I bought were only 8 watts.
I guess that incandescent light bulbs weren't very bright.
2f9ea0 No.8754133
>>8754101
>The LED light bulbs that I bought were only 8 watts.
Nigga you live in 2016.
d79234 No.8754231
I love the overly emotional parent angle of Fallout 4. You could literally punch a guys head into bits and then go into a dialogue with someone about how depressed you are that you lost your son with a shakey and emotional voice.
The whole confrontational scene with kellogg, no matter what answer you chose, was cringe worthy as fuck because to get to kellogg you ripped over 80 people from the world in the same way they ripped your spouse from the world. Only to get to him as a crying blubbering mess.
The best part? Kellogg seems like a better character than your own. Just trying to get by on mercenary work and had to do what he had to do to make ends meet. I respect the guy were meant to hate more then the supposed character we are that Bethesda wrote out for us.
sage because rant
958b2c No.8754287
>>8754231
>Kellogg seems like a better character than your own. Just trying to get by on mercenary work and had to do what he had to do to make ends meet.
Kellogg is pretty much your typical Playercharacter. A very simple quast-for-revenge backround that turned him into a murderhobo.
I'd suggest he was created and then executed as a metaphor to the death of that trope. But we're talking about Bethesda-writers who are neither that clever nor that pretentious so it's probably just a coincidence.
697573 No.8754336
>>8754231
The PC kills out of necessity, unless you obviously choose to murder others for no good reason.
No matter what RPG, I never raise my weapon unless I have to.
c594ee No.8754450
>>8754287
Nice Moon Over June picture, friend.
bcaea7 No.8755431
What gets me is how quickly these games fade into obscurity.
It happens with pretty much all big name releases these days, but it was more obvious with FO4.
It was heavily shilled for maybe about 2 weeks (a week prior to release and a week after) and then just, nothing.
It was like they realise that they weren't going to convince anyone that the game isn't anything other than irredeemable garbage and just gave up.
05d81c No.8756425
fallout after 2 didn't happen
c6c584 No.8756446
>>8755431
Why keep talking about it? Soon you'll have a new DLC for more content to talk about it.
And after a year or two, there will be a new game in the same franchise to talk about. Stop clinging to the past and buy our new shit, Anon!
This is how the entire Call of Duty franchise works, they cut support to previous titles so people feel the need to buy the new ones.
Videogames are a product to them, so it makes sense that they focus on how to sell more to you, instead of caring about past iterations of them.
It's funny that "videogames are art" is always rebutted as a pretensious hipster argument, but the thruth is, previous Devs made their games thinking of them as art. As something they wanted to have a place in the world and be remenbered for many years. And currently we have companies that make "products" instead, like some people seem to wish things were, and the result is forgetable-on-purpose games that last a year at best before a new "product" enters the market.
e8a22b No.8757353
>>8756425
No shit, the fallout happened immediately after the bombs dropped. It doesn't just keep producing more fallout.
0ab200 No.8757479
>>8754287
He is as shallow as "Gruff Mercanry With History" characters as come. The only reason he stood out beause even passing mentions of East Coast are both more interesting and exciting then entire Fallout 4.
9c0dcc No.8759063
I go through the new DLC fine with mods even though others say not to. Then I finish the last building place but now every time I try to exit game crashes…
eb1026 No.8759274
9c0dcc No.8760097
>>8759274
I found out you could fast travel out so it's cool, no idea why trying to leave through doors was fucking it.
e50c86 No.8760232
>>8760097
So who's the Mechanist anyway?
It's that stupid fucking Kid from Canterbury Commons in FO3, right?
9c0dcc No.8760252
>>8760232
It's a girl, something Cruz. She found a Mechanist picture (Drawn could be from that kid) from a raided caravan.
ad9345 No.8760260
>>8751662
Your post gave me a thought, what if Obsidian had made an Elder Scrolls game, when they were still good?
Sage for off topic.
2fbe68 No.8761958
>>8760252
So she's just an autist in cosplay? Cool.
103592 No.8762812
I'm retarded when it comes to modding this game. It worked fine on my steam version before but now it will not work with my pirated version. Is it the load order? mod compatibility?
9c4421 No.8762865
>pirated at launch
>Ran at 60 fps, but was completely unoptimized and constantly crashed
Was there ever an optimization mod? Why the fuck did the devs have the world render twice with the second being hidden underground?
9c4421 No.8762882
>>8754027
>mfw will never get loli/shota mods on Loverslab
8e6dd4 No.8763102
>>8754133
>Nigga you live in 2016
Nigga they live in 2077.
89a898 No.8763138
Well I'm definitely not playing anything in this piece of shit series that's for sure.
>>8726859
That would imply that 1 and 2 were anything but trash in the first place.
2fbe68 No.8763143
>>8762812
I don't think nexus mods work with pirated versions of the game, that might be your issue.
>>8762865
There's a mod that attempts to optimize the textures a bit, but I have no idea how well it works.
Beth's retarded, so this isn't a surprise.
>>8754027
I think the issue stemmed mostly from the fact that most robots in New Vegas were ugly and not feminine, we'll at least be getting some assaultron porn.
6ee776 No.8763190
fallout 4 is working weirdly for me. My gfx card and pcie slot got damaged after two international flights and it can't handle Dragon's Dogma without the entire card overheating and the computer going into blue screen. However it can handle Fo4 with everything turned to low (textures on ultra) without the bluescreen problem. I switched my card to the pcie x16 2.0 slot instead of the 3.0 slot and there's no bottleneck in the card's performance as far as I can see, but my card still has the blue-screening problem.
Does this mean bethsoft's graphic department is so shit that a 2012 Jap game strains my gfx card more than a 2016 release?
And should I send my card to a shop to have the heatsink repasted?
558a9a No.8763233
>>8760252
I didn't think FO4 could dissapoint me anymore but here we go.
271566 No.8763239
>>8763138
>That would imply that 1 and 2 were anything but trash in the first place.
Get a load of this underage.
2fbe68 No.8763260
>>8763190
Sounds like sending your shit to a shop is a good way to get it working again in general.
e7b938 No.8763292
Has anyone else on /v/ tried FOnline:Reloaded?
Personally I like it quite a bit. It's got professions, crafting, pvp, quests everything you want from an MMO
It doesn't have crazy lots of player but it's definitely not close to being a dead game either
ad2bed No.8763298
>>8763292
Does it still have Russians and shoveling shit to grind caps?
e7b938 No.8764277
>>8763298
Haven't seen any Russians the entire time I played and about 10 minutes of grinding will get you enough caps to explore and wander for hours, so I'd hardly say its a grind
2f9ea0 No.8764304
>>8763102
And they clearly live in a world where everything needs to be powered by a nuke. Good tech, shitty tech level.
89a898 No.8764378
>>8763239
Sorry bro, I grew up when PC RPGs hadn't chucked gameplay completely out the window to pander to D&D RPers who just want a shitty story to project into. Fallout 1 and 2 are horseshit.
2f9ea0 No.8764393
>>8763138
>>8764378
Even for raw bait this is undercooked.
151927 No.8764547
>>8764393
>it's bait
>lemme reply to to anyway
2f9ea0 No.8764647
>>8764547
>not rubbing their obvious bait in their face once before filtering
Here's yours, mr sage (1) :^)
151927 No.8764723
>>8764647
>what are dynamic IPs
I was ID: b6a155 before my router reset.
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3e2f2b No.8772824
>>8763233
>was disappointed by FO4
What?
I expected it to be a shitty Bethesda game that would need mods to play.
I was right and had fun after installing over 140 mods.
2f9ea0 No.8772865
>>8772824
The best thing to come out of FO4 was the Boston Salt Party Threads here on /v/.
1c0455 No.8772889
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>>8753901
>sci-fi chrome robot women you'd see in artwork from the 50s and 60s
From the 80s, actually.
3e2f2b No.8773546
>>8772865
I wasn't here for that because I take breaks.
Any one have an archive?
ca35c2 No.8773700
>>8754287
1: It's the west coast, not east.
2: He stood out mostly due to his badassry. As well as the lack of interesting antagonists. Most large factions are not very antagonistic due to the nature of the factions, and the institute themselves are just egghead fucks with robots.
>>8754287
They suck at weaving a story, but I wouldn't put it past them to make an interesting character. They did make Desmond Lockheart who was pretty badass, and Bethesda games are usually surprisingly redpilled. They're nowhere near as good plotwise as obsidian, but they have their moments.
2f9ea0 No.8773834
>>8773546
No. There's wasn't anything really stand out, they were just fun shitposting threads at launch.
ca35c2 No.8773838
>>8773834
Don't forget the porn dump after all the fallout shilling.
2f9ea0 No.8773946
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>>8773838
Yes, I remember. So much porn.
7429bc No.8774952
>>8773700
>Bethesda games are usually surprisingly redpilled.
I hate this meme. Liking Bethesda games is the biggest bluepill.
ca35c2 No.8775078
>>8774952
An example:
>Tenpenny tower
>Ghouls want in
>Residents say no, they're not civilized like us
>3 Dog screaming thats not ok
>Help ghouls get in
>Ghouls murder everyone
>3 Dog compliments pc on "ending that racism"
>Kill ghouls
>3 Dog "Man those racists killed those good ghouls, evil bastards"
d810fd No.8775109
>>8746571
https://thepiratebay dot se/torrent/13970890/Fallout.4.Automatron.DLC-MERCS213
c6c584 No.8775201
>>8774952
Except he never said he liked them, only that they were more redpilled than you'd expect them to be.
And even then, what the fuck does liking shit games have to do with bluepills? It means you have shit taste or low standards sure, but that has nothing to do with bluepills. Disliking a particular game because it's shit doesn't mean you are suddendly redpilled. Stop trying to fit in this badly.
60b591 No.8775976
So I just played dem Robot DLCs, the VA for the Mechanist is cringe as fuck, I wonder if it's who I think it is.
affb35 No.8776043
Do mods fix the fourth one yet? I've been itching to play a shooter for a while now…
7429bc No.8776075
>>8775078
If that was the case, they wouldn't give you negative karma for killing him afterwards.
>>8775201
>And even then, what the fuck does liking shit games have to do with bluepills?
Believing the gaming media's lies. Believing marketing lies.
A goy is a goy.
60b591 No.8776098
>>8776043
The GECK isn't even out yet.
7429bc No.8776099
>>8776043
>Do mods fix the fourth one yet?
Mods make games better not make games good.
ca35c2 No.8776126
>>8776075
Karma is a reflection on how the world, and 3 Dog sees you, not on your actions. If anything, its a biting comment on the state of the world, and peoples racist perceptions that you're seen as the monster when it was them who did the evil act. Hell, the only reason why you're seen as the monster is due to 3-Dog screaming it from the rafters.
228d6e No.8776131
>>8776043
The modding tools aren't even out yet. The only mods people have made have been by nigger-rigging the engine.
>>8776126
I never thought of it that way.
ca35c2 No.8776132
>>8775134
Also, forgot this pic existed. Ty anon.
60b591 No.8776156
>>8776126
Now that's reading into it, good job.
>>8776131
The Robot DLC is sorta cool, I have my own Sentry bot to roam around with, and the most boring landscape to roam around within.
ca35c2 No.8776164
>>8776131
Yeah it only hit me a little while ago, but makes much more sense than it implying you're evil or good, seeing as the player decides that and there is no discernible change in the character when at full karma or full evil karma, like the Fable series of Kotor series, etc.
Really, as your karma increases either way, the change is 3-Dogs comments about you on the radio, as well as how some people view you. And it happens slowly, over time as you steal more items, kill more innocent people, etc. Unless you decide to nuke Megaton, which would obviously earn you villainhood, you murdered and entire town with a nuclear weapon.
The player, and by extension his avatar never changes, you're always you and in charge of yourself, the only difference is just how the people of the wasteland perceive you.
7429bc No.8776168
>>8776126
>Karma is a reflection on how the world, and 3 Dog sees you, not on your actions. If anything, its a biting comment on the state of the world, and peoples racist perceptions that you're seen as the monster when it was them who did the evil act.
I had a feeling that you would use that argument but I think that you are looking too deep into Bethesda incompetence. Besides, it doesn't explain his omniscience.
ca35c2 No.8776188
>>8776168
Let's be fair, it is an rpg. For the karma system i'm talking about to work, it would require 3-Dog knowing about everything you do, right down to the panties you put on that day. Otherwise, it wouldn't be known as "Karma".
And besides, from a roleplay perspective, sure some of the little stuff like thieving and killing wouldnt be found out. But enough people would see you steal shit in town, or hear about you killing regulators, or hobos from passerbys or survivors and you would earn a reputation for being a scoundrel or a hero over time, like Jericho did.
As for the big shit, like bombing megaton, or tearing Paradise Falls to pieces, big shit like that would inevitably get around. It's not everyday one person takes on an entire town and wins.
2f9ea0 No.8776208
>>8776188
>it is an rpg
It wishes.
7429bc No.8776210
>>8776188
>Let's be fair, it is an rpg. For the karma system i'm talking about to work, it would require 3-Dog knowing about everything you do, right down to the panties you put on that day. Otherwise, it wouldn't be known as "Karma".
Your argument is on the basis that it isn't really a karma system.
You just want to justify your conclusion that Bethesda, the Jew RPG company, is red pilled.
ca35c2 No.8776244
>>8776210
Your defense is lol no. Bethesda are jews.
And you conveniently left out the part where I described how it could work from a realistic context like you wanted. It'd also make sense considering the ghouls in tenpenny tower. The only people who know the ghouls killed the people in the tower is you. You killed the ghouls in retaliation, and you're then seen as the only person leaving tenpenny tower alive. They don't know the ghouls killed them, all they know is everyone is dead except you.
Show me exactly how i'm wrong.
>>8776208
It's not an amazing rpg, but it still has enough stats and required skills at that point to be considered a traditional rpg, albeit a bad one.
fallout 4 tho is not an rpg.
fafab1 No.8776269
What are the best New Vegas legion mods?
7429bc No.8776278
>>8776244
You said
>>8776126
>Karma is a reflection on how the world, and 3 Dog sees you, not on your actions. If anything, its a biting comment on the state of the world, and peoples racist perceptions that you're seen as the monster when it was them who did the evil act.
Which implies that the karma system is actually a reputation system.
I said
>>8776168
>Besides, it doesn't explain his omniscience.
You said
>>8776188
>Let's be fair, it is an rpg. For the karma system i'm talking about to work, it would require 3-Dog knowing about everything you do, right down to the panties you put on that day. Otherwise, it wouldn't be known as "Karma".
Which goes back to it being karma
Also,
>>8776188
>And besides, from a roleplay perspective, sure some of the little stuff like thieving and killing wouldnt be found out. But enough people would see you steal shit in town, or hear about you killing regulators, or hobos from passerbys or survivors and you would earn a reputation for being a scoundrel or a hero over time, like Jericho did.
That doesn't explain why you can make up for blowing up Megaton by giving someone water.
7429bc No.8776287
>>8776244
You said
>>8776126
>Karma is a reflection on how the world, and 3 Dog sees you, not on your actions. If anything, its a biting comment on the state of the world, and peoples racist perceptions that you're seen as the monster when it was them who did the evil act.
Which implies that the karma system is actually a reputation system.
I said
>>8776168
>Besides, it doesn't explain his omniscience.
You said
>>8776188
>Let's be fair, it is an rpg. For the karma system i'm talking about to work, it would require 3-Dog knowing about everything you do, right down to the panties you put on that day. Otherwise, it wouldn't be known as "Karma".
Which goes back to it being karma
Also,
>>8776188
>And besides, from a roleplay perspective, sure some of the little stuff like thieving and killing wouldnt be found out. But enough people would see you steal shit in town, or hear about you killing regulators, or hobos from passerbys or survivors and you would earn a reputation for being a scoundrel or a hero over time, like Jericho did.
That doesn't explain why you can make up for blowing up Megaton by giving someone water.
New Vegas manages to have a karma and a reputation system so they aren't the same thing.
e9fc44 No.8776321
>>8751440
>Females in the legion
>Not broodmares
The fuck is wrong with with these fucking normies?
ca1f19 No.8776334
>>8776321
In their mind, they're probably some special snowflake mary sue who somehow is accepted amongst the legion, despite being a woman.
7429bc No.8776347
>>8776334
I think an acceptable compromise between the VB and NV Legion is allowing female Frumentarii.
ca35c2 No.8776350
>>8776278
>Doesnt explain how you can make up by giving someone water
Game limitations on redemption arc. People often like to think the bad guy can become good. Just look at any game or story with a reformed villain.
>>8776287
New vegas just left in the karma system. It was obvious it wasnt really used. New vegas opted to use faction rep, which was much more useful.
Either way tho, faction rep is how the FACTION sees you.
Karma is how EVERYONE sees you.
You can be loved by the NCR, and have em say, "glad you're on our side!", with it meaning one of two things
1: cause "you're such a gosh darned good person!"
2:cause: "Better you not kill my kids in their sleep but the other guys"
fafab1 No.8776356
>>8776321
>play legion playthrough as female
>Caesar rewards me with a coin instead of becoming personal fuckslave to Lanius
2f9ea0 No.8776359
>>8776321
>>8776334
>>8776347
The simple and correct answer is that there are just a lot of female Fallout fans.
839db1 No.8776365
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
HEya GUYS DURR DIRR DURR xDDD XDD XDD
>8chan leader interview in 3 days
>i think im on the right track
ca35c2 No.8776367
>>8776356
>Wanting to be personal fuckslave to a guy who sets people on fire as a hobby.
fafab1 No.8776373
>>8776367
He probably has a big dick.
ca35c2 No.8776382
>>8776373
He'll set you on fire.
7429bc No.8776386
>>8776350
>Game limitations on redemption arc. People often like to think the bad guy can become good. Just look at any game or story with a reformed villain.
People don't tend to forgive others for wronging them just because they helped an unrelated third party.
>New vegas just left in the karma system. It was obvious it wasnt really used. New vegas opted to use faction rep, which was much more useful.
Except Fallout 2 also had both. Karma in New Vegas served a very different purpose than "general reputation." Why else would lying to your brain give you negative karma?
>>8776367
The Legate is Frank Horrigan 2.0. Useless for everything else but fighting.
>>8776373
UUUU
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>>8776373
I know his head is swollen with cancer Anon, but it's not that head.
ca35c2 No.8776408
>>8776386
>They dont tend to forgive those who wronged them
Who? The people you wronged are dead. The only survivors of the big shit are megaton citizens and you cant convince them to like you. As for thieving and other shit, remember, its how people see you overall, not specific people. Anyone who catches you doing something shitty to them attacks you. Others are afraid or wary. And if you hear some guy who used to go around killing everyone turned over a new leaf and is now risking is life and nearly dying every day to save people, you'd probably think he's a hero too.
>Karma served a different purpose
And what purpose is that exactly? Give examplse. Cause as I recall, it wasnt used for much of anything other than farming good guy points by killing ghouls. Anything worthwhile was done through the faction rep system.
>>8776386
Shitty version of the legend if you ask me. Lanius is nothing compared to Franky muscle arms.
e9fc44 No.8776412
>>8776359
>Female fans
Thats not how you spell vapid attention whores
fafab1 No.8776414
>>8776388
I was talking about Lanius
>>8776382
Only if you're a profiligate
b497b5 No.8776432
>>8751925
Women are the ones who push that so they look less shallow
7429bc No.8776436
>>8776408
>Who? The people you wronged are dead.
Friends and relatives.
>And what purpose is that exactly?
Ending slides, Cass' reaction to you, and your brain's reaction to you. If karma was general reputation, it would lead your brain to be a mad scientist.
ca35c2 No.8776469
>>8776436
>Cass reaction
Her perception of you, hence karma as it was used in Fallout 3. You're proving my point.
>Your brains
Which would be its perception of you divorced from your personality. Which was stupid enough on its own anyway.
>Friends and relatives
Except that you have no way of knowing if the people who you killed are relatives. How should I know if regulator 77 is regulator 21s kid or husband. Game doesnt say that. And if you're referring to named npcs thats due to game engine limitations, and if it were possible to remember, it wouldnt matter if you were seen as a saint or demon, if you killed their dad they'd want to kill you, as seen in just about every revenge arc on a hero in media.
Once again, you're confusing FACTION consequences with KARMA. If you kill someones family or fellow soldier and he wants to kill you thats a FACTION thing, KARMA is your overall actions in the world, hence how the world percieves you. Hell, your own examples for fnv show thats how its used.
>>8776414
No, pretty sure he sets everyone on fire. Its kinda why everyones afraid of him. He'll fuck you twice then roast you.
b497b5 No.8776479
>>8776126
>Karma is a reflection on how the world
Then how does stealing and hacking without being seen effect your Karma? They wouldn't if Karma were a measure of how the world saw you.
Not to mention how NV has both a reputation system and a Karma system so it can't measure how the world sees you since that would make the Karma system redundant.
7429bc No.8776494
>>8776469
>Her perception of you, hence karma as it was used in Fallout 3.
Then why not use the reputation system?
>Except that you have no way of knowing if the people who you killed are relatives.
That really isn't your problem.
>Once again, you're confusing FACTION consequences with KARMA. If you kill someones family or fellow soldier and he wants to kill you thats a FACTION thing, KARMA is your overall actions in the world, hence how the world percieves you.
And the ending slides?
This bullshit started because you claimed that Bethesda is red-pilled. That is just like saying John Oliver is red-pilled.
b497b5 No.8776509
>>8776494
But John Oliver is totally redpilled
Notice how he ironically uses the [CURRENT YEAR] meme on tv to make fun of SJWs? It's a subtle nod to how he's an avid reader of /pol/.
And notice how he ironically blames white men for everything? That's just him ironically being racist to show that Social Justice isn't justice at all.
7429bc No.8776516
>>8776469
There is no way to differentiate karma and reputation if you argue from a perspective that there is always a witness to your crimes.
If that was the case, why would secretly stealing something lead to negative karma but not negative reputation?
228d6e No.8776519
>>8776494
>congratulations on your white penis
It's also uncut, so I must be an antisemite in edition to being a racist misogynist.
ca35c2 No.8776525
>>8776479
It could be construed as random people noticing over time, which is why it happens gradually.
Not to mention if karma wasnt how people saw you why would people call you a hero and offer you shit when you're wasteland hero and conversely give you bribes and ask not to hurt them or their families when wasteland demon. Both ends alter how the common people of megaton respond to you, the player as well as 3-Dogs comments on you on the radio. Everything to do with your karma is people reacting to it and treating you differently. If thats not how the world perceives you I dont know what is.
Same thing as killing NCR soldiers or Legion soldiers reduces faction rep even when out in the wastes.
>>8776494
>Why not use rep system
Because the faction system is better suited to the fallout games? Obsidian were right to add it as Karma is ok for general perception but in terms of factions its important to have differing opinions.
>You claimed they're red pilled
Because they are. people perceived you as a monster for killing everyone in tenpenny tower, as well as 3-Dog screaming it, whereas you know the ghouls murdered innocent people and you put them down as a result.
As for ending slides, the ones you brought up are cass and your own brain (once again, in my opinion, most idiotic part of OWB) perception of you, which ties into what im saying. Which by the way would be moot, because I was talking about how BETHESDA made and used their karma system, not OBSIDIAN. two entirely different developers and games.
ca35c2 No.8776535
>>8776516
By that logic, when out in the wastes or under disguise how do the ncr or legion or khans know its you offing their people, especially when you leave no witnesses. For the game engine to work with its General rep and Faction rep it requires people to know or have a general idea of what you've done.
7429bc No.8776567
>>8776525
>Because the faction system is better suited to the fallout games? Obsidian were right to add it as Karma is ok for general perception but in terms of factions its important to have differing opinions.
I meant instead of a karma system.
>>8776525
>As for ending slides, the ones you brought up are cass and your own brain (once again, in my opinion, most idiotic part of OWB) perception of you
I gave those as examples outside of just the ending slides.
>>8776535
>By that logic, when out in the wastes or under disguise how do the ncr or legion or khans know its you offing their people, especially when you leave no witnesses.
Disguises stop working after the murdering starts. Besides, I killed those guys at Nelson without gaining negative CL rep.
Really the burden of proof is with you.
ccff9e No.8776577
>>8776479
>Then how does stealing and hacking without being seen effect your Karma?
>a stranger armed to the fucking teeth walks in to town
>rummages through everyone's houses squatting the whole time
>afterwards everything of value in town is gone
>"gee, i wonder who could have stolen from us?"
You still get the negative "karma" even if you're never seen by anyone in town, but to "fix" that you would have to code it in, which is a stupid amount of work just to sate your autism and lack of imagination.
7429bc No.8776600
>>8776535
>By that logic
Also, no. It isn't by that logic. Because my logic is that
If you can avoid faction reputation penalties from crimes by doing it in secret and karma is based on people's perception of you, then you should be able to avoid karma penalties from crimes by doing it in secret.
0b38de No.8776602
>>8742519
Here's your response
b497b5 No.8776614
>>8776577
That's for stealing
How about hacking or just breaking into someones room? How would that affect your "general reputation" if noone ever knows that you open a door or read some mail?
>but to "fix" that you would have to code it in
No you wouldn't. To "fix" that, you would have to find and replace "Karma" with "General Reputation".
>autism and lack of imagination
Just like how we clearly can't stand Pre-War Jet because of our autism and lack of imagination right?
That kid could have totally survived 200 years in the fridge, you just need some imagination. The radiation caused some potatoes in the fridge to mutate and kept the kid hydrated and fed for 200 years and it just died and turned to ash the moment the PC got there. Just use your imagination bro :^)
ca35c2 No.8776627
>>8776567
>Disguises stop working after the murdering starts
Yes, but if we're using yours and the other guys logic, once everyones dead, no one knows you did it. On top of that, thats bullshit with Nelson. I've killed all of them and the commander dude and I was villified for it.
>Burden of proof is on you
Which i've given an example of. Tenpenny tower. Unless you're referring to getting negative rep when killing while disguised, which would be kinda sad to try and suggest, considering anyone who has played FNV for even a little bit of time can quickly figure out still goes through. hell, just need to kill some powder gangers wearing ncr armor then take it off to find yourself vilified.
Oh and you never answered how anyone knows you killed their soldiers when their are no survivors, other than passerbys witnessing it. And no, using anectdotal evidence contrary to the status quo isnt good. Anyone who has played Fallout 3 or FNV for any amount of time knows killing someone that gets you karma or faction points whether + or - still happens even if everyone is dead and in the middle of the wastes.
>>8776600
Yeah, i'll admit the disguise part I didnt think through. Still, them knowing you killed their people when their are no survivors or when you're not caught can only be explained by passerbys seeing you from an rpg perspective or by game limitations for the system itself.
Also, we've gotten offtrack. My argument still stands. Your karma is peoples perception of you. And faction rep is the factions opinion on you. When you killed the ghouls in tenpenny tower, all anyone knows is everyone is dead and the only one walking out is you. By that logic, the most likely assumption people are going to come up with is that you did it, which is why you get negative rep.
I doubt 3-Dog would be screaming that it was clearly the ghouls when it was him defending them, and he's the only source of media in the capital wastelands.
b497b5 No.8776641
>>8776627
>Still, them knowing you killed their people when their are no survivors or when you're not caught can only be explained by passerbys seeing you from an rpg perspective or by game limitations for the system itself.
OR it could be explained by the factions having this magical tool called a Radio
Let me explain this magical device to you. You see, it allows long distance communication so even if you kill someone while they're in the middle of the desert, they can still call other people with radios and tell them who is doing the slaughtering.
ccff9e No.8776647
>>8776614
>To "fix" that, you would have to find and replace "Karma" with "General Reputation".
But that's exactly what "karma" is and always has been in the series, you sperg.
>Just like how we clearly can't stand Pre-War Jet because of our autism and lack of imagination right?
That's inconsistent storytelling, which is a valid criticism unlike getting -5 karma for going around sniffing people's asses, hacking every computer, lockpicking every lock and stealing everything they own
ca35c2 No.8776661
>>8776641
Right. And how many NCR soldiers do you see with one? And legion? And why do you never see them use it? If we cant assume bystanders see you killing or stealing why are we assuming NCR & Legion are somehow radioing out shit you never see or hear in the heat of battle?
This also doesnt account for sneak kills or stealing from them which does net you negative faction points.
b497b5 No.8776722
>>8776647
In fallout 1 they used "General Reputation" and it worked fine. Why else would they use the word "Karma", a word that has spiritual connotations implying that what you're doing is either objectively good or evil, unless they are saying that your actions are objectively good or evil.
And what the fuck are you going on about? The "criticism" is that Bethesda wouldn't use the word Karma if they don't mean objective morality, not that you get evil points for doing evil things.
>>8776661
Nigga, the NCR fucking hands you a radio for doing almost jack shit. It's almost guaranteed that every soldier in the NCR has a personal radio or they're stupid and hand out precious radios to random non-NCR citizens.
>This also doesnt account for sneak kills or stealing from them which does net you negative faction points.
Objectively wrong, let me quote the wiki for you
>Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause the player to gain infamy, though only if the weapon is silent and a one hit kill is achieved.
7429bc No.8776723
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>>8776627
>Which i've given an example of. Tenpenny tower.
Your one example which is an outliner that you solely based your outrageous claim on when it could be simply explained that Bethesda didn't added an extra script that replaced the ghoul with an evil karma version of the same ghoul.
Occam's razor
b497b5 No.8776756
>>8776723
The simplest explanation for this is that Bethesda are lazy and couldn't be bothered to change what karma the ghouls give you because they expected you to just do nothing to the ghouls who just murdered their way through an entire town.
They may not be redpilled but at least they aren't completely stupid. The conversation with Nathan shows that at least one member of their team isn't a "BAN GUNS ;_;" liberal who thinks we should mindlessly obey the government.
ccff9e No.8776773
>>8776756
>implying ribluls don't hate the government
Don't ask me how they do it, the level of cognitive dissonance these fucktards have rivals women.
7429bc No.8776786
>>8776756
>The conversation with Nathan shows that at least one member of their team isn't a "BAN GUNS ;_;" liberal who thinks we should mindlessly obey the government.
Wow one guy. Here is what the Vice-President of Bethesda has to say:
>PH: I like what we’ve done with the dialogue system… and having played Fallout 3 again recently I keep, in Fallout 4 when I’m playing, I keep hitting the button to leave dialogue. I keep forgetting, ‘Oh, I can just walk away’. I don’t have to wait for this guy to stop talking’. And now I’m playing other stuff, where there’s dialogue and I’m thinking, ‘Oh, I wish I could just walk away’. Because I don’t have the attention span for long dialogue!
>GC: The catchphrase for gaming used to be ‘Just one more go’, nowadays it’s just ‘Get on with it!’
>PH: [laughs] Exactly! Unless it’s Uncharted or anything by Naughty Dog, and then I never skip any of the dialogue – ’cause theirs is awesome.
https://archive.is/47pLP
b497b5 No.8776791
>>8776773
They have a love/hate relationship with the government because the Government is their surrogate parent. Turns out if you don't act like a fucking parent to your children, the state raises them for you to become mindless obedient slaves.
>rivals women
Because they are women
acfc3c No.8776803
>start the automatron quests
>immediately get gangraped by mechanist robots
b497b5 No.8776820
>>8776786
What else do you expect from the company which hires it's members based almost entirely on nepotism. Did you know the guy responsible for Oblivion potato faces was hired because he was Todd's highschool friend and not because he was competent?
2f9ea0 No.8776825
>>8776803
Something tells me that's poetic language, and there aren't gangbanging robot gangs.
2ed96e No.8776871
>>8751252
tweak settings right off the bat
vanilla project nevada settings are hell
228d6e No.8776883
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>>8776825
>that iamge
>Mr. Handy rape
>not consensual love
acfc3c No.8776885
>>8776825
>Ahab just skips everything and straight-up murders me on the spot
It's poetic alright.
acbb52 No.8776908
3bd517 No.8777139
>>8750989
>Why the fuck is leveling up in Fallout 2 so fucking hard?
>infinite XP from random encounters
Yes, why?!?
acfc3c No.8777175
If you wear the Silver Shroud armor when you confront Not-Mechanist, you get unique dialogue
acbb52 No.8777195
>>8750989
>Why do I need to do quests perfectly in order to get maximum XP
228d6e No.8777200
>>8777139
>>8777195
He posted that two days ago, he's probably not even reading the thread anymore.
c6c584 No.8777283
>>8776075
>they wouldn't give you negative karma for killing someone
Murder is murder, you'd still get the penalty for it. Really, the only kind of murder that should be positive is killing people with negative karma themselves. And even then it's still pushing it, since it's still murder.
>Believing the gaming media's lies. Believing marketing lies.
What lies? When Todd tells you "it just werks" and "you can climb every mountain" that has nothing to do with political stances or commentaries on feminism. You like that kind of games, you have shit taste and that's all. You can dislike those shit games and still buy into the whole media narrative, and you can like them without buying into it. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
7429bc No.8777320
>>8777283
>Really, the only kind of murder that should be positive is killing people with negative karma themselves.
You mean like the ghoul in Tenpenny Tower because that is what we were talking about.
The gaming media has gone beyond shit taste. They are out to exploit. It is like saying Microsoft is red-pilled.
ccff9e No.8777325
>>8777283
>murder is murder
Yes goy, a pack of niggers raping your daughter's asshole is all fine, you're the bigger man for not fighting back! They'll surely learn their lesson when they're making money and living under armed protection!
e392f6 No.8778804
>>8750049
>>8751704
>>8751715
>>8751736
Is Shadbase the reason the Slooty Vault Suit mod was created or was someone else the origin of all the "skintight vault suit" art?
Here's that mod in 4K. I usually dress her in the Commonwealth Shorts from another mod.
3e2f2b No.8779169
>>8778804
Yes, as well as a number of adult mods.