2ab135 No.8742291
I never seen anyone talk about this, probably because it's an unfinished game you can only buy directly from the dev.
It's essentially a single layer sci-fi western Dwarf Fortress clone with the addition of cover mechanics similar to CoH/DoW.
Looks quiet similar to Prison Architect and has a some of the same mistakes, like a shallow research tree that might as well not be there and you feel like you've seen everything very quickly.
There's a lot of items but you're stuck being able to craft only shitty ones and have to trade for everything advanced like cybernetic prostheses or even guns.
Was gonna gonna drop it until I looked at the mods and there's a modpack called Hardcore SK that actually fixes most of these issues, mainly by the addiction of more complex resource chains.
If no one wants to talk about it we can talk about Dwarf Fortress and similar games in general.
What other games like that can you recommend?
2ab135 No.8742327
Forgot to mention.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/qxqb6
Should contain the latest version for GNU/Linux.
53ffad No.8742407
>>8742327
You were doing well until >for GNU/Linux
If you post a link to a windows download, you might get some more people talking about the game.
I personally haven't played it in months, but I did enjoy it when I played it last. Definitely a neat game.
2ab135 No.8742435
>>8742407
That's how I found out about the game.
If I had a windows link I'd give it to you.
2ab135 No.8742488
I found an older version for Windows.
https://mega.nz/#F!Jdw2XA6C!S3aXUd1ADd5d_Tt9uqijug
Can't really recommend it without the mod and animal taming.
57bfd9 No.8742491
i haven't played this game for ages, since a much earlier version. i need to revisit this sometime
865299 No.8742492
>>8742291
It's shit.
>develvopers barely updates
>when they do, the updates are underwhelming as fuck
>needs to be modded to hell and back just so that you can play it longer than a week
>main dev goes on vocation for six months and decides to hold back an update until he comes back
>wants to do a steam release even though the game feels bare bones as fuck at the moment
2ab135 No.8742510
>>8742492
Seems about right.
Last major patch was august and like I said, you can see everything there is to the game in a few hours if you don't use any mods.
6f5cd1 No.8742525
>>8742488
You don't need the modpack, just manually install SuperiorCrafting. You should generally avoid modpacks anyway, they tend to include fucktons of useless mods that slow down the game (a game of this size should not take over three minutes to load a save).
2ab135 No.8742566
>>8742525
I'm gonna do that.
I like a few other things in it like the colony manager and I just didn't wanna bother handling mod conflicts manually until now.
1ac79e No.8742795
>like X but worse in every way
Why people do this?
2ab135 No.8742801
>>8742795
It has mouse support.
2ab135 No.8742805
>>8742801
This reminds me.
Is Gnomoria any good?
ba3d0c No.8742865
>>8742492
>wants to do a steam release
I don't get how they justify this in their hands. They're imitating/diluting a game that's famous for being free as in beer and obviously worked on for much longer, with much more depth and dedication. And yet they still feel entitled to extorting for the software license?
Well I know how they justify it: they can get away with it. Why does anyone fucking put up with it?
6fffa9 No.8742994
>>8742291
>Tried Dwarf fortress once
>couldn't figure out how to place the thing
Gonna give it another go.
dd2656 No.8743007
>>8742805
No. It's watered down dorf fort, but not as watered down as the abortion that is rimworld.
>>8742994
What thing?
c166cd No.8743026
>>8742492
This is accurate and I stopped playing months ago
I bet you STILL can't craft basic prosthetics besides peg legs
765850 No.8743048
>>8742865
>I don't get how they justify this in their hands. They're imitating/diluting a game that's famous for being free as in beer and obviously worked on for much longer, with much more depth and dedication. And yet they still feel entitled to extorting for the software license?
>Bob does it for free, so must I
What are you, an idiot?
Since when is anyone EVER beholden to give things for free to you?
How the fuck can you even utter the word "entilted" without exploding from hypocrisy overload?
6fffa9 No.8743055
>>8743007
I think it was the vase itself, the starting position, but that was years ago.
2ab135 No.8743067
>>8743026
You can craft neholitic weapons which are completely useless. Not even basic handguns.
You can only craft 9 different clothings.
No armor either so the crafting skill is pretty much useless.
Skyrim is a really good game without mods in comparison.
>>8743048
He's right though.
The game itself is pretty much shit on it's own.
They even want to charge 30$ bucks.
I'm only mentioning it because it's actually fun with mods and there aren't enough games where you indirectly command units.
What do you call the genre anyway?
Would you say Dungeon Keeper belongs to the same genre as dwarf fortress?
6fffa9 No.8743078
>>8743055
>vase?
Base, fuck me.
dd2656 No.8743120
>>8743055
>>8743078
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here. You have a wagon full of the bullshit you embarked with at the start. You can't/don't need to place it anywhere.
87198c No.8743140
>>8742407
>You were doing well until >for GNU/Linux
Nice try Microsoft.
Will check it out OP.
765850 No.8743508
>>8743067
>He's right though.
No, he's not.
You don't get to dictate price or weather something can be sold or not.
Neither do you get to decide what a produce is supposed to be like.
Quit acting like the world revolves around you and your tastes and wishes.
97eb85 No.8743560
impressed with the gui, unless df lowered that bar for me
too purist/lazy to bother with mods, so i'm stuck waiting on dev
afaik about df-clones, rimworld stands top
>gnomoria
i played it before i played df, and thought it was cute and unfinished. sucks it finished on a low note, last i checked.
inb4 sad dog vid
099542 No.8743561
>>8743508
>You don't get to dictate price or weather something can be sold or not.
>weather something can be sold or not
>weather something can be
>weather something
>weather
6dcdfd No.8743568
>>8743508
He just questioned how they think selling a game and putting it on DRM is a good idea when a far superior version of it it available for free and wiothout DRM so any non-retard would just play dwarf fortress
6ae8dd No.8743745
>>8743048
I don't think it's a matter of "they shouldn't EVER be allowed to charge!" and more a question of "what made them think this was a good idea?"
Dwarf Fortress is the mechanically-superior game, and it's free. All Rimworld really has over DF at the moment is more accessible gameplay, and they think that's worth the $30 price tag?
As a consumer, you're essentially just paying for a better GUI, and trading in a huge amount of depth for the privilege.
I can't imagine the overlap between "want's to play a complex colony management game" and "wants to immediately jump in with no prior learning needed" is particularly large.
In fact, given how many of these types of game have sprung up over the past 5 years, only to wither, I can guarantee you the overlap is fairly small.
The number one complaint I've seen levied against all of these pay-money-for-a-slightly-better-interface management games is "why should I play this when DF has more content and is free?"
The problem is that, essentially, we have a group of developers out there that want to have their cake and eat it - they want to profit off of the niche Dwarf Fortress has carved out without investing nearly as much effort.
Should Rimworld exist? Yes. Should they be allowed to make a profit off of it? Yes. Should people that want a game with DF levels of complexity give them $30? Probably not.
253faa No.8744024
Good game but takes way too long between updates. Even DF updates faster.
Combat is nightmare hard, I always get wiped out by the first mechanized or sometimes raiding parties. It seems like you have to get a sniper rifle and abuse it as fast as you can or doom stack turrets fucking everywhere.
Building walls does nothing except temporary cover. I wouldn't even bother putting a full wall around my base. Maybe like this pattern I . I . I . I for the cover bonus.
Except on maybe a tundra base where it's worth building double walls to keep the temperature warm.
253faa No.8744041
The medieval weapons are actually pretty good. The longbow can be quite effective and plasteel / steel longswords usually kill in two hits. If you can attack a raider with a gun you have a guaranteed kill since they only use their fists.
Also melee equipped troops with shields are really useful for reducing your casualties and drawing fire away from your snipers.
253faa No.8744063
Alpha 13 should hit sometime this month according to dev log and when it does we should have some more bionics/prosthetics/medical procedures to play with. It would be nice if you could operate on cataracts instead of just amputating the eye like some kind of third world quack.
2ab135 No.8744163
>>8744063
>It would be nice if you could operate on cataracts instead of just amputating the eye like some kind of third world quack.
That's why you use mods.
It's almost unplayable without them.
07d008 No.8745477
I like it but it becomes frustrating to see the unrealized potential. Medical procedures are something that I really enjoy but the dev doesn't seem to care and puts in stupid shit. Mods save it.
The game is also much more fun if you concentrate on base and character building instead of pursuing the actual goal of building a spaceship and getting off the planet.
84967c No.8745668
This game had a huge amount of potential when I first heard about it. It turned out to be such a disappointment.
I liked the idea so much I donated enough money to the Kickstarter to get myself added as a colonist. I paid money to get myself added in a shit game.
I think that's when I realized I was wasting my life.
c128e2 No.8745871
>>8743055
>>8743078
Nigger there is no base.
You cut down trees, build a wall in case someone has to go back. Then you set up the basic workshops and set them to building enough beds, a crossbow and some bolts.
Then you dig down 2 levels, uppermost for starting farming, the one lower for housing.
Then dig another level down and use that for storage. This is the point where you deconstruct the wagon for parts.
Then dig another level down and transfer your workshops underground.
Thats it.
ce64a1 No.8745913
>>8745871
He means selecting an embark position.
3df1a3 No.8746063
>>8742291
this time i heard about rim world
i though it was an Sex game about rimjobs
765850 No.8746420
>>8744024
It updates fast enough, it's just that the game was a several month hold.
New features are coming in soon.
765850 No.8746457
>>8743745
>Should Rimworld exist? Yes. Should they be allowed to make a profit off of it? Yes. Should people that want a game with DF levels of complexity give them $30? Probably not.
Should people expect or even want DF levels of complexity? Are the devs required to give them that? Probably not.
DF is a only for the biggest autists and those that don't have any life whatsoever.
The UI is a fukken nightmare, the fortress becomes unmanagable and starting at the ugly text the entire time is a murder on the eyes.
I could never get far into it.
>>8743568
>when a far superior version of it it available for free
>far superior
By whose standards?
DF isn't nearly as good as some you autists believe.
865299 No.8748371
>>8745477
It's pretty sad to see how this game a lot of potential just to end up trash. I don't blame the fact that it's a DF clone, but rather the lazy devs and the retarded community who says "The longer, the better!" yet no matter how much time you give this developer, the updates are always shallow as fuck. The game has been around forever and nothing has really change.
If I can remember correctly, the main developer even created a thread on his forum dedicated to which e-celebs he should mail the game to. Of course this was early in the game's developement but it's an obvious flag that the game should be advoided, and with the steam release coming out soon, I'm pretty sure he's going to fuck off some time after its release.
911809 No.8748403
>>8742291
>probably because it's an unfinished game
DROPPED
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If you buy early access you are killing gaming
c5d661 No.8748460
>>8743508
>You don't get to dictate price or weather something can be sold or not
Sure I can. If I think it's not worth the price I don't buy it, if enough people agree with me it flops. Quit thinking like a kid who needs permission from mommy and daddy anon
ba3d0c No.8748697
>>8743048
>Since when is anyone EVER beholden to give things for free to you?
What? It's freely available on the internet. Look, it's right here:
>>8742327
Since when was I beholden to arbitrarily give money to someone for something I can get for free?
bbc4f9 No.8748771
>>8746457
It's Reykjavik, right? That's why it's the capital. By my guesstimate, the city closest to the volcano has got to be the one with the best hot springs and most drinkable potable water springs therefore: that.
52cbc9 No.8748840
Why the fuck isn't this F2P?
d65c88 No.8748909
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>8743560
but srsly rimworld is a good. shame development has slowed to a crawl, but I can't be mad until they abandon it like some kikestarter project. Far stretch between giving money to a basement game project with a lot of soul and giving money to Tim Shitface tier bullshit peddling.
d65c88 No.8748922
>>8748840
> why the fuck am i too retarded to pirate a game that has no copy protection
52cbc9 No.8749025
>>8748922
Just saying in general. This game is $30 too expensive for life.
ec5643 No.8751158
>>8749025
>$30 dollaroos for an half abandoned game
7fc476 No.8753547
>>8743140
i wanna jam my dick in her throat. do you think thats why no one ever comes out of my monitor like that?
d3d795 No.8753600
Yeah I'm looking for more game like Dorf Fort just not as fucking hard to get into.
I've had this game sitting in my Steam library forever. Is it any good?
d3d795 No.8753605
>>8743140
For some reason I really want that Internet Explorer mug.
a189db No.8753645
>>8746457
You know, I would love something as complex as Dwarf Fortress but without it being a pain to play and to look at.
19f6ce No.8753685
I played it a few months ago and found it kinda [s]fun[/s]. In comparison to DF, it has a much better UI (I'm not talking graphics here, but the ability to use mouse instead of typing everything is pretty neat, and the various menus are much easier to navigate through), and the injuries system is cool too. The main issue was the absense of mid and late game content and the inability to get out of the starting field, as well as the lack of possible interaction with outside world. Might be good if it gets several big addons
19f6ce No.8753692
>>8753600
That gnome looks like a kike
d3d795 No.8753698
f065a4 No.8754121
>>8748371
>It's pretty sad to see how this game a lot of potential just to end up trash. I don't blame the fact that it's a DF clone, but rather the lazy devs and the retarded community who says "The longer, the better!" yet no matter how much time you give this developer, the updates are always shallow as fuck. The game has been around forever and nothing has really change.
How long has DF been around?
How good was it on release?
How much content did it have?
Cease your retardation, sir.
The janitors have enough to do without cleaning your drool.
f4c4e2 No.8754157
its immensely fucking tedious
mods are 90% of the game
equipment degrades faster than you make the money to buy it, and you have to individually equip every weapon and every piece of armor.
raids are even more tedious than dwarf fort with its broken military
your settlement will get destroyed out of nowhere if you dont very carefully meter out what you choose to build and when
farms are worthless
invasions are at least interesting mechanically, sometimes they charge into your facility, sometimes they use drop pods to get into unroofed areas, sometimes they set up a mortar position to bomb you from afar.
3 starting settlers is not enough, settlers are far too valuable and take up far too much room
settlers very easily become suicidally depressed from heat or cold turning the game into micro hell
power is always open to destruction from invaders because they must be built outside
thats all I care to write about
played it solidly for 2 weeks with and without mods
a788e6 No.8754171
>>8753600
Gnomoria is alright, you can play it for 15-20 hours before getting bored. If you already have it in your library, might as well play it.
d3d795 No.8754348
>>8754121
Fuck, I'll bet you purchase early access too, you faggot.
7fc476 No.8755393
>>8753605
me too, if by mug you mean the girls face, so i can cum in it
3abdd1 No.8755600
>>8754121
Boatmurdered, arguably the best known DF succession game, began in 2006 a few months after the game was released. Also the game is free like free beer, not early access.
f065a4 No.8756202
>>8754348
I purchase when I want. Does that bother you?
>>8755600
So?
3abdd1 No.8756444
>>8756202
You asked how good DF was on release. Apparently quite good. Being free also means that Toady can progress as slowly as he wishes since nobody's paying for it.
865299 No.8757590
>>8754121
>>8754121
But I wasn't talking about df you dumb nig. Learn to read you'll understand why I don't like rimworld.
DF itself takes forever to update but It's free and overall a better game. Rimworld isn't and its updates come slow. Nothing interesting has been added to the game for the past few alphas besides animal breeding and joy.
33a79e No.8759828
RimWorld is quite fun but limited. I really just love the atmosphere, and since it looks so much nicer than DF it's a comfy game. I used the mod that lets you create custom colonists to allow myself to start with 5 ubermensch and play on harder difficulties. I know it's kinda casual but RimWorld is pretty casual in general.
On an unrelated note, I was playing DF for about 7 hours last night without saving and then it crashed. Finally after nearly a decade realized I can set it to autosave… Fuck. It was a really fun fortress too, I had an insane defense setup from outside threats but had a few unfortunate moods that resulted in berserk->tantrum spirals. My population kept ballooning to 80 and then dropping to 50, over and over again.
3ad1a7 No.8768754
>>8759828
>>8759828
>I know it's kinda casual but RimWorld is pretty casual in general.
There's nothing wrong about enjoying something you like. The main problem is the shitty developers in general.
927381 No.8770730
>>8756444
And how long was DF worked on before that?
How was the development time allocated?
Nothing on graphics and UI, I can tell you that much.
b3c7e0 No.8770836
>>8742291
[spoilered text]
it's nothing for me already. How are you going to do all the logistical fun without routing in all three dimensions?
DF is one of the most comfiest games in my opinion, can't see myself liking a casualised version of it.
Really like the setting thuogh
a0b3e3 No.8772386
>start game
>pick randy on rough
>tropical mountains
>get a sweet cove start
>see a massive square room at the exit of the cove
>yes it's a free room right of the bat!
>open it up
WHAT THE FUCK
d1e9a1 No.8772475
>>8772386
Randy randumb had nothing to do with that, the closed buildings always have big bads in them
a0b3e3 No.8772517
>>8742407
>If you post a link to a windows download, you might get some more people talking about the game.
It's unfinished so I'm completely against anyone paying for it. Here's the torrent hash for the lastest version.
fe6cfef07ce1aedc7232ce9fe5d682b0df0fa4ec
Alpha 13 soon apparently.
>>8772475
>the closed buildings always have big bads in them
Fug. Oh well. Now that I've been slaughtered I see that even getting near it makes a notification pop up saying "you're going to get rekt if you open this". Whoops.
db80a3 No.8772718
>>8770730
Good luck having anything higher then tilesets in graphics for DF, the sheer number of things being kept track of and controlled in the game means that anything higher then that would have to be designed to be a simulator of reality like biology for example.
Toady making the world even bigger and constant is going to make that even more intensive.
As for updates there is usually a cumulative small changes while working on much bigger changes in the background with the odd bug or two that causes a massive change like boiling hot rain that melts everything.
6355e2 No.8773571
>>8773011
Does stonesense have any support for an interface or anything to make it easier to get into?
a0b3e3 No.8782593
So how goes the fort?
>eclipse
>already run out of battery power
>haven't been raided in a while
only a matter of time, now.
97eb85 No.8785805
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a66351 No.8785836
>>8753547
I mean, I could try and we'll see I guess
96e578 No.8786031
>>8785805
If you want, I can pack up all my mods for you to use. There's a fuckton of them though so it's hard to set them up because the mod loader tends to fall apart.
a12101 No.8787410
>>8772718
Poor optimization
Last time I checked, DF didn't make use of multiple cores
96838a No.8794957
>I only wanted DF deep or even just half of it
>I want to not get blind while watching a screen
>rimwolrd and others copygames can't even scratch the surface of DF
Fug. There is a mod to make it more deep?
2e6f0a No.8795030
>>8754121
i played the game a long time ago and none of the shit you listed was ever a problem if you use your fucking brain, youre a casual
31e0bf No.8803287
>>8794957
No you can't make it deep, but you can download a lot of mods to actually make it fun.
b5637e No.8803630
>>8803287
>>8794957
Would you settle for dark? there's a pretty gud darkness/lighting mod out there