/v/ - Video Games

Yesterday I was sitting in the Steam group chat. Someone mentioned that there wasn't a thread on 4/vg/ for once in a day, or something like that.

Did the general finally move off 4chan or what?

If anything, welcome.

I admit there's a few tendencies in the general that's strained my perception of it, but no doubt I like the games.

Did you guys move here because of all the stupid shit the new users have been doing. I'd like to post over there but I got permabanned for something someone else did and the mod is a fucking retard

also I hate /cgg/ because you guys act like retards, or maybe that's just the aforementioned retards fucking up the general.

Either way the general feelings towards the thread are not positive to say the least.

Play Vanquish

I tried to start playing Metal Gear Revengeance but I couldn't get into it because of the awful camera, it ruins everything for me, especially since the block mechanic is based on where you are facing.

I tried camera mods but it didn't help, it's a shame because I heard a lot of good things about it, and the slicing system is pretty fun, but I just can't play this game.

>>8752801

Use a keyboard if you're on PC and blocks are giving you trouble. I shit you not, it's way more forgiving than using an analog stick for some reason.

And to think all this bullshit could've been avoided if they'd just used a hard lock-on.

>>8747558

LDK mode, while incredibly fun, is also incredibly easy to get stylish rank on, since part of the stylish rank is based on either number of enemies hit, or amount of damage per hit. In either case, you hit a lot of enemies and do a lot of damage.

I want LDK to be an orthogonal choice to difficulty though. I finished it and went back on the harder difficulty (DMD, iirc) and had an easier time on it since there just wasn't as much shit attacking you at once.

Lady best character, although Trish is fun except for those lightning fuckers.

Not playing cuhrayzee right now, but I will like to bump this thread.

I'm thinking of getting into the DMC games, but my TV is a shitty LCD. I'm going to wait until I get a CRT with proper response times.

>>8752873

Also aside from shitty players is just general disinterest, I did post stuff I found for a few games, but the general response was either ignoring or "hurr why go through the effort when you could just cheese it" which ended up pissing me off too much

but bitching aside I still love these games, so I'll cool it down at this point

For god knows what reason I just can't get the style switch mod to work on a pirated copy of DMC3:SE

Did I download an out-of-date version?

Is version 2.4.3 a shit?

the error message I get is 0xc0000142 and google-fu has failed me.

So is dmc3 for pc worth getting? I hear the port is shit, but on the other hand its got a style switching mod. What do?

>>8761017

you have to delete music files and get a 3rd party program for the controls.

but with the mod it still is the best version of the game and you could always use the steam overlay to play your own music or just a normal media player if you plan to pirate.

>>8761047

I read somewhere that the style switcher mod fixs the music bug. Is that true?

>>8761093

I don't know but that would be cool if it fixed it

>>8761093

I don't think so. Although I think the sound bug was only a problem for the PCs that existed when DMC3 came out, so if your computer is fairly new/good I don't think it's a problem.

>>8752630

OP here, I came here because cuckchan is cancer and I want /cuhrayzee/ discussion on 8/v/. That's pretty much it

Playing DMC3 for the first time currently, trying to learn to jump cancel on my Hard playthrough now. Jump cancelling is hard as fuck but from what I've heard it takes people a long time to perfect it so eh. Just gotta keep practicing

>>8761125

>>8761125

So would you guys say that dmc3 pc is the way to go?

>>8761208

I'd say yeah

Well I got a new controller. So I can play DMC 1/3 on my PS3, and DMC4 SE on my PC. I need to finish DMC 4 still.

>>8752801

I'm no expert on MGR but the whole combat is based on parrying, you need to get good at blocking if you want to enjoy the game.

>>8761222

Well fuck it. Im gonna get it.

How's the DMC 4 special edition compared to the original? I played it a few years back and thought it was ok but not as good as 3.

>>8752801

As someone who played through it multiple times I can honestly say you get used to the camera. It really needed more tinkering.

>>8761311

Higher resolution textures. Some new modes. Vergil. Some changes here and there. Overall it's still pretty good.

>>8761311

You get Vergil, Lady and Trish as extra characters.

Vergil is lifted from DMC3 like Dante was but with a few changes here and there. Angelos are more aggressive now and all the flaws of the original game are still there. I don't know what Trish and Lady are like because I haven't played as them yet. They also added costumes for each character.

>>8761392

Trish is a stronger Sword Master

Lady is Shotgun to win

>>8761311

Three new characters, two of which are meh and one is pretty gud.

New graphical functions, some okay (god rays) some absolute shit (DoF, motion blur). Expect to have to hex edit the executable to remove those.

All in all the game still runs great (especially if you turn off the stupid shit) but it's still a far cry from the technowizardry that was the vanilla port.

>>8753863

Yeah I'm conflicted on Vergil, mostly on the trick up, trick down issue. I prefer his ability to teleport straight to a summoned sword though, with that there's virtually now downtime between hits. On the other hand it makes Vergil's dodging harder to pull off as he'll just disappear for a brief moment if he's already in front of an enemy. The thing is that issue could be fixed if you could still trick up and trick down like you could in DMC3.

>>8761401

Good to know. Is Lady an easy mode character? She really seems like it judging by how much range she can get on enemies.

>>8761507

All the new characters are Easy Moudo pretty much, Lady gets a charge Shotgun that can one shot most demons, even the armor dudes.

Trish just has so much to stun and hold them that pretty much nothing gets in her way.

Even in her DT she can normally attack those elec lizards and stun lock them.

where the heck's a /cuhrayzee/ FPS? closest thing I can think of is Desync, but it looks like garbage

>>8761876

oh, and maybe the Doom WAD, Demonsteele

>>8761876

I doubt we'd be seeing anything like a cuhrayzee fps soon. The only people that seem capable of producing cuhrayzee right now are very few in number. Namely Platinum, Itsuno and Team Ninja when they had Itagaki. FPS is also more of a western genre and we've yet to get a cuhrayzee game from a western developer even with attempts like GoW.

Though Scalebound and Nier Automata are pushing into jrpg territory so we'll probably see cuhrayzee gameplay work it's way into other genres in the future if they do okay sales wise.

>>8761876

Brutal DOOM and Quake Arena.

>>8753863

>>8761775

I pirated DMC4 but only got the regular version, I'll have to track down SE. I need to be going this fast.

Currently making it through Bayonetta 2 on Infinite Climax

>>8762143

What's this game called? I remember seeing it in an /agdg/ thread.

>>8761299

Unless,you REALLY want to try the style switcher mode you're better off emulating or getting the HD collection on PS360

It really is a godawful port. My specs are pretty decent and certainly exceed the recommended specs for DMC3 but the game still dips in FPS

>>8762264

Isn't the HD collection 30fps though?

>>8762308

It's 60fps.

>>8762143

seeing some improvements there, do enemies work yet?

>>8762845

What's up with the FPS being bouncing at a consistent 65, or higher? I mean, that's good it isn't shitting itself but still.

If those are weak(er) enemies I'd expect them to attack slow like that. Just add some more attacks to them?

Got any other footage of other types of enemies you've made so far? if you're the creator

>>8763040

All right. Keep going then. Nice model. She has some well rounded breasts

>>8761540

> Lady gets a charge Shotgun that can one shot most demons, even the armor dudes.

bruh, charge shotgun can put most bosses in stun lock even on DMD. With berial I just charge up and hop shots until he's dead, he can't even get a single animation out. Love that shit

>>8757108

I checked 4/vg/ for once, and it turns out there's still a general. So if you're concerned about that pool of people coming over and being in this thread, it's not to worry about as far as I can tell.

>>8761507

>I prefer his ability to teleport straight to a summoned sword though, with that there's virtually now downtime between hits.

He already did something similar in DMC3, but it didn't require a summoned sword. In DMC4SE, if you didn't already have a summoned sword in a target, you have to wait for the sword to reach the target for him to teleport.

bumping the thread with some top-tier Uncle Dante

>>8764435

I think it's cute that they tried to balance him by limiting his trick to a summoned sword but then gave him retardedly OP shit like his DT finisher

>>8764435

He only went a certain distance though, in DMC4 it goes wherever the sword is and isn't limited by range.

>>8764513

>>8764518

We really didn't need that bump since we were still at Page 2 or 3. But I at least preferred DMC3 Trick Actions, and not having completely OP damage. I don't know what you guys do for Berial when he does that explosion thing, besides running out of the way.

At least for Nero, I could double jump back and use the recoil from a charged shot.

>>8764604

He was OP in DMC3 as well don't kid yourself. Yamato only gets outdone by Beowulf when it comes to damage and had heaps of range on top of being quick. Add summoned swords to that and you can ruin every enemy in a matter of seconds.

As far as Berial goes, I jump into DT and use Vergils dash. Embed related.

>>8764604

I don't care if we didn't need it, top tier Uncle Dante is always good for posting.

These videos are 60fps uploads, so if you're not using a botnet browser you can download them manually to see it.

>>8764654

I really need to get around to unlocking Super Vergil. His DT really tickles my near-fetish for teleport spam.

>>8764654

I wasn't, but I had 2:29 of embed in mind when I posted that.

>>8764705

Oh he's definitely more broken in DMC4. I'll concede to that. I imagine it'd be hard to balance Vergil though, given his boss fights. He has a bit of a legacy to live up to and he might not be able to satisfy that if he were balanced. Honestly I think he needs his own difficulty setting.

Oh shit, we've got a large enough population here for a general? The only reason I checked 4chan anymore was to see what /cgg/ posted.

>Anarchy Reigns removed from the pedastal of cuuhraazey

I'll never forgive you fucks for that.

>>8761047

By the way, recent versions of the style switcher mod fixes everything - in my recent installation, installing the mod also fixed the controller recognition and even fixed the sound bug. I turned the sound back on with an ini edit and the only issues I've run into thus far is a tiny frameskip whenever I enter a new area, too.

>>8760269

>/vg/

>needed

/vg/ was containment, something not really applicable to 8ch, always was, always will be.

The whole reason it was made because there came a point where 4/v/'s page 1 was:

>lolg

>sc2g

>Souls General

>Tribes General

>4am thread

>>8746842

Check out this video for in-depth techniques in MGR. It has tons of small things I didn't know about. Details are in the description which is a bit cumbersome.

>>8765086

That's what needed means you dipshit. You don't like it so it's containment. People who do like it call it useful.

>>8764978

/cgg/ is retarded. I'm a huge cuhrayzee player but I can't stand that fucking thread. I love DMC4 and have put tons of time into it but it's not the only game and those fuckers are unhappy with anything that isn't it.

>>8765695

I stopped actually reading what they wrote a while ago. Pretty much the only place where content in this vein was posted.

It was hilarious when they disowned the We Shall Wake devs after they posted to 8chan when they didn't just want to make DMC though. That was the nail in the coffin for me.

>>8766035

(That was me. I'm the WSW guy who posts on 8chan and was one of the two who posted in CGG. Part of the disownment was due to dramaz)

I just didn't say anything in this thread because I don't have anything new for you WSW wise right now. We've been working on another much faster easier game to put out to help pay for WSW. Art assets and big robot models be expensive yo. So we've been doing back end engine improvments and other stuff for WSW and doing this other game to help fund our robot punching dreams.

>>8765014

Keep in mind that most of the stuff in OP is copied from cuckchan. There is a bit that we can do to personalize this general more. Although I haven't played Anarchy Reigns so I don't know whether it is cuhrayzee.

>>8765086

And even then the main reason was how cancerous LoL and SC2 generals were. The former was rife with attention whoring tripfags, while the latter was K-pop central. So far 8/v/ has nothing of sort going on, even Undertale general is relatively tame.

>>8767378

Doesn't look very cuhrayzee to me.

Are there any cuhrayzee games where the main method of fighting or weapon is either a:

>spear

>ballistic weapons besides vanquish

>wrasslin moves

?

>>8767378

May? That soon?

I'm not too optimistic after Devastation. I don't want competent action games, I want stylish action games.

>>8766406

Anarchy Reigns is kind of done due to how much emphasis platinum put on multiplayer. I still think its garbage that you need a player minimum to start the match, but ignoring that it's fairly decent.

>>8767940

literally basara, but I want a full on luchador game someday. Perhaps I'll have to make it

>>8767940

>>8766335

Oh, brilliant. I'm a fledgling game dev and am more or less going the same route, making a simpler game first to become self supporting, though I hope to go on to make a cuhrayzee-inspired one in the years to come.

bumping with almost an hour and a half of cuhrayzee

Woah, woah…did you guys FINALLY move out of halfchan? This is that Ninja Gaiden guy!

>>8760269

>tfw I come back to check if someone knows the issue I'm going through

>only reply is a misreply

Guess I'll look for a different version to pirate and work on gitting gud in DMC4SE instead

>>8780737

I don't think they did, generally speaking /vg/ was a pretty insulated board that really didn't care about what was happening around them.

On top of that it's a small insulated community within /vg/

>>8762143

Your game's really shaping up anon.

Keep it up.

Why is no combat system as good as DMC4?

Even Bayonetta's not as good.

How do I stop my hands from cramping when I use gunslinger style in DMC3SE?

>>8782156

I dropped DMC4 because it requires a lot of multitasking, Vergil so far looks a bit more easier to manage than Dante anyway I like Bayo because the combat system is a bit more intuitive.

>>8781849

>would a Vergil revival work in any way?

Depends on if he's actually dead, he kind of just disappeared in a flash of light. Even if he is dead, he could just be in Hell and Dante can walk in and out of there easily enough.

>>8782156

DMC has had the most games in the cuhrayzee genre and thus more chances to be refined and perfected. The only thing DMC really needs to take from it's competition would be dodge offset. Maybe take some ques from NGB as far as enemy design/AI goes as well but that's just me.

>>8784770

I personally actually think NG is a bit better like…conceptually. I much prefer "efficiently accomplishing objectives in ways that look cool, with varied mechanics" than the DMC4 staple of "doing skateboard tricks off an unresisting scarecrow"

Some of those combos are cool and all but I have a lot more fun like, trying to beat BP or doing S-rank DMD runs and shit. Because it interacts more with the mechanics of the game.

I think Ninja Gaiden got the overall structure/design right, but could have used a bit more depth to the actual combat to accomplish that.

>DMC4SE finished torrenting

Now I just need to get good at Vergil

Does Warframe count? It feels crazy but lacks some of the defining features of Devil May Cry.

>>8784832

It does quite a few things better but I can't really place one series over the other because they both play to their strengths and know what they want to achieve.

>"doing skateboard tricks off an unresisting scarecrow"

Yeah that's one of the gripes I have with DMC's enemies. I like being able to do stylish shit but some of the enemies just submit to you.

I'm not sure how you could correctly balance stylish combat with something more like NG's brutal and efficient approach.

>>8781849

>would a Vergil revival work in any way?

Think during DMC1 Nelo Angelo disappeared in a flash of light. Probably something with Vergil can be done afterwards, but another thing is that Nero's dialogue in 4 implies Vergil exists incorporeal. So unlikely.

>with dmc5 pretty much in "announced" indirectly, what do you guys think we'll get to see?

Storywise, something that ties up loose ends between Nero and Vergil.

No indication of what they're doing for combat though.

>>8784902

No. First I'd say it's because "cuhrayzee" isn't really a genre specifier. It just names a community (from 4chan) that plays a set of games that also share characteristics with each other. Like the first few generals people asked if Quake counted, but it was declined since there were Quake generals to discuss with instead. Warframe also has a general (or used to since those died).

Second, Warframe just fast paced. At least the parkour and variant of bunny hopping that doesn't comprise entirely of spamming the spacebar. However the melee combat is E spamming, the "combos" in Warframe not having anything to them, and the gunplay is kind of standard.

>>8784967

Honestly, it's why I prefer Nero over Dante. He's savagely efficient if you get good with him, there's a lot to learn, and he's quite stylish without a lot of extra unecessary frills. Mastering Max-ACT, shuffle invulnerability, etc are all stylish and efficient.

Dante's got a lot of cool shit but it doesn't fit together as well.

>>8785026

I could say the same thing but I'd replace Nero with Vergil. Even in DMC3SE he traded Dante's versatility for brutal efficiency but kept the style and gets pretty close to balancing style with efficiency. The only issue is that the standard enemies become too easy to fight with Vergil.

That might just have more to do with DMC having an unspoken rule about enemies only attacking when they're on camera and generally being less agressive in comparison to NG's enemies that will relentlessly attack whether they're on camera or not.

>>8785117

I absolutely love DMC4SE Vergil because of the Motivation Gauge. Missing attacks or running around loses you power and reach, so, you reach peak meatgrinding efficiency only if you play with calm perfection. No mashing. No wasted attacks, no risky hit taking.

You play him perfectly for maximum efficiency and style together.

He's my go to for sure these days. Also, he has a tool for everything, but, they're dependant.

If there's any enemies/attacks you've got a problem with I can tell you exactly what Vergil has to deal with them.

Knight Captains: Round Trip

Frosts: Level 3 Motivation High Time interrupts them.

Mephisto/Faust: Lunar Phase is pretty much guaranteed to parry. In the case of Faust you then time trick to avoid his counter attack, then you can attack him through the cloak for full damage.

Etc. The thing is that Force Edge is considered bad/inferior to Yamato by most players but it actually is just a weird multitool that can be used for a lot of situations but isn't great for just mashing combos.

….Sorry for all the text. I love Vergil.

>>8785019

>not wanting to play as Ghost Vergil

I just realized that God Hand is cheap as fuck on the Playstation Store. Never really got into it. Played a bit back when I was a scrub. Really excited now. I remember making a combo that incorporated both full pimp slaps. I will do that again.

Everyone feel the hype.

>>8764513

>find this video in the related queue

>start thinking about how radical it would be to fight with your friend in the bloody palace competing to see who can kill the most enemies the most stylishly

>>8786181

That's a thing I have yet to see properly implemented in spectacle fighter/ 3D brawlers/ cuhrayzee games.

Bayonetta 2 made an attempt and while it's decent enough fun, it's just not fleshed out at all.

>>8784770

DMC doesn't really need dodge offset though, since all the attacks can be done with no buildup, whereas Bayonetta can only do certain attacks (Low spin kick for a non WW example) through a combo.

>>8786181

With 5 characters in 4SE, if they made 2 player Co oP, I would just claim DMC4 to be the best game in existence.

That mod just shows mountains of untapped fun and I want it.

>>8788872

There's a real old mod for DMC4 vanilla that allowed for netplay.

obviously as you can see it never took off, I can't recall what exactly the problem was with it as a few people claimed it was functional. It's somewhere on infernal works

>>8786458

Perhaps in cemu you will co-op at 60fps and not 15.

>>8796918

Perhaps.

>>8796918

When that actually is ready for use, I'm going to record Bayonetta a lot. Been recording DMC4 gameplay, but I never really bothered to get a capture card just for Bayonetta.

Already I want to post my progress to this general threads; however fitting stuff in 8 MB is a hurdle. (More along the issue of optimal resolution/fps for different lengths).

>>8797418

I just want to play Bayo 1 at stable 60fps, the Wii U version has slowdowns here and there.