/v/ - Video Games

A worthless language only a fool would spend thousands of hours of his life to learn to hear the sheer awkwardness of Japanese animation firsthand, teenage Japanese women pretending to be children, blatant and cringeworthy "fanservice," and a dying culture. Go learn a useful language like Spanish or Mandarin instead.

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>>8770882

がんばって

あきらめない

>>8771540

The first one means keep going right? I dunno what the second means because I'm still shit at knowing what it means.

>>8771669

Oh fuck I just realized it was a Nai verb so that means you were telling me not to give up right?

>>8771616

http://jisho.org/

http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/

がんばって → 頑張って　→　ヅー　ヨーア　ベースト

あきらめない　→　諦めない　→　ドンート　ギッブ　アップ

>>8771540

>>8771708

あきらめないで

ドゥー・ユア・ベスト

ドント・ギブ・アップ

>>8771831

>あきらめないで

ごめん

それと書くべきだった

>>8771872

死ぬことがあっても、いつかこの月語は容易に読める

>>8772146

thanks nigga. I don't plan on it.

>>8772216

are you me?

>>8772216

Once you start you can never stop.

>>8772216

Don't worry too much about that. A lot of Japanese people don't know Kanji that well either.

>>8772248

This shows that they can't write them from memory too well, but they should still be able to read all common words.

You need to grind them Kanji.

>>8772216

基本的な漢字は易しいよ。　かなより易しいかもしれん。　数量は障害。 助数詞はマジ難しい。

>>8772261

Of course.

>>8772691

なま先生？

>>8772691

何しようかな

>>8772691

わかりません。。。

>>8772691

なんでやねん

>>8772736

俺、牧場物語しています。

>>8772834

何飲んでる？私ちょっとけどビール飲んでるよ

>>8772834

スピーーードワゴン！！！

>>8772864

ゲームって子供っぽいよね

>>8772956

好きじゃないもん

>>8772939

テメエって子供っぽいだぜ。

NIP NONG CHING CHONG

HERRO? HERRO U WANT DA ORANGE CHICKEN???

>>8772969

ニートだからもちろんだよ

>>8772979

単一言語の馬鹿

>>8772984

おいおいおい、お前もゲム好きだろ！違うか?

>>8772956

自殺しろ。

>>8772939

＞ゲーム

＞／ヴィー／に

出て行け

>>8772956

三しかクリアー出来なかったがそうだ。

百合同人誌も好きだぞ

>>8772979

何

>>8772956

まあまあ

多くのファンはゲームを遊ばなかったね

>>8773077

>メメヤできない

>>8773097

>多くのファンはゲームを遊ばなかったね

そうね。　悲しいよ

>>8773125

じゃあ、社会生活を辞めて。

>>8773125

>I'm too busy going to college and having a social life

>>8773071

このアドバイスを使え

>>8773125

時間が足りないな？　時間捜し出さなくていけない

>>8773165

冗談じゃなくって、本当だぜ。リア充の生活をや・め・てゾオオオ

>>8773165

辞書の使い方を知り成る

>>8773179

>>8773191

I agree, meaningless hieroglyphs

Yins are my real friends. You're so easy to talk to.

>>8773243

GOOGLE・TRANSLATEを使えばやや分かる。

>>8773316

ググルはボットネットだよ

>>8773327

確かに。でもあいつは日本語全然できない平民だよ。

>>8773363

倫理的な代替がある？

>>8773382

おめでとう！

>>8773355

そう？じゃ、「諦めない」じゃなくって、「あきらめないで」を使ってね

「諦めない」の意味は「私が諦めない」などで、「諦めないで」を使うとしたら「がんばって」と同じように使われる。

>>8773388

さあ、辞書を使うほうがいい。

所で、ナイスダッブス。

>>8767480

Beaner/ChiCom detected. Fuck off, commie

>>8773453

Beaner here, fuck you asshole.

I'm trying to learn chink as well.

Now go back and eat cat

>>8767480

come mierda y matate.

>proper sentence structure in Japanese.

Remember the order: when, where, what, action.

Their vowels are pronounced phonetically; long and short vowel sounds are thrown out the window.

>>8773455

Stop being such an obvious troll. Lurk moar, you fucking faggot.

>>8773466

御見事

>>8773466

ナイスですね

>>8773475

日本語には語順がなくて動詞や形容詞が最後だといいよ

>>8773466 (チェックしました)

>>8773522

I'm not a gook, retard. You can't even use racial slurs properly. For the record, I'm Puerto Rican.

>>8773533

If you want to be more productive for a while, disable your internet access. Fast imageboards are particularly distracting.

>>8773543

Chinese eat cats, Koreans eat dogs.

>>8773596

>You're worse than scum then.

What, because I'm legal, and you're not? Because I bothered to speak English without an accent?

Fuck off, D&C wetback.

>Weebs pretending not be weebs

>Learning the language of extremely xenophobic nation

>All because of "muh games"

How about you learn a real mans language you

педики нахуй

I don't care I'm just too stupid to learn nip and I'm learning RussianJust play old games that weren't SJW shit, new games are trash anyways

>>8773676

>not learning both

сука バカ

>>8773676

ロッシア語も面白いそうだね。

寝る時間だ

>>8773687

I used to work at a K-Mart, so I feel your pain.

I'm really young, so I can't full embrace your pain, nor would I want to.

Hang in there brudda

>>8773691

面白いそう

>>8773703

おやすみなさい

>>8767480

aprender y hablar en español es demasiado fácil

>>8773676

Fuck off. People are learning the language because NoA and Treehouse thought it would be a bright idea to fuck over their customers.

FUCK OFF, YOU STUPIC COCK-EYED RUSSIAN!

>>8773749

Cojeme papi

>>8773769

I love your passion.

It's kind of hot.

ASL?

>>8773727

あ、すまん。

>>8773769

Perhaps you should calm down and learn English before you learn the most difficult language there is дружище.

Also I am baffled you'd learn another language entirely because of a business fucking you. Just don't consume their products and they'll die or improve, that's how capitalism works.

But hey you're free to do what you want.

>>8773382

My first game I finished in moon was PSMD. I actually imported that damn game like a fucking faggot so I could play it 2 months before it came out in English.

Worth it.

>>8773816

>Just don't consume their products and they'll die or improve, that's how capitalism works.

That would be true if it weren't for how marketing works. Kotaku and its ilk spent weeks telling people the only changes to Fates were sexual related things that only a pedophile would defend. What did retards do? They listened and believed so hard that Fates broke sales records for the FE series in the west. There are even people so mind bogglingly brain dead that they understand the issues with Fates and still say they'll buy it anyway. Voting with our wallet doesn't work when we're a tiny minority.

That's how capitalism really works.

>Lazy faggot.

>Masturbate too much.

>Can't stop feeling horny every three hours.

>Just want to sleep all day.

Pfft. Having nothing else drown my days out doesn't help. I'll get started on Jap I guess. Tired of feeling like I accomplish nothing. Being broke all the time makes it worse.

I'll get at it tomorrow. I've been awake for 14 hours. So I'll be passing out soon.

>>8773880

So then point out to the normies that what they are doing is cancerous. It's not hard.

Anyone interested in the new クラダン? It has coop so that's cool, but I wouldn't have anyone to play with. Also worried that current nis will fuck it up. Biggest worry is if there's going to be a lot of that handwritingcalligraphy? style font. That shit fucks me up.

>>8773914

What do you think Operation Torrential Downpour was about? It was about educating normalfags. Like I said, of the few that listened and looked at the evidence, the vast majority just said "I'm still going to buy it. The changes don't effect me", and Fates sold like crack laced pancakes.

>>8773944

Then that's how it works. Look I don't support censorship of any kind but I just think learning a language simply because of a hobby is a bit extreme. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying it's weird.

>>8773966

I've always wanted to learn it either way. My Uncle got me into it. As he went over there, knows quite a few people. If I can ever annoy him I could see if he could find me places to stay if I ever can afford a trip to, and fro.

>>8773966

>nobody thinks anything of it when someone who loves cars decides to learn how to maintain or even build one

>nobody thinks anything of it when someone who loves music decides to write a song

>nobody thinks anything of it when someone who loves reading decides to write a book

>somehow, it's strange for people who love video games to try to cut out the middle man between themselves and their hobby, not even make their own game

No, there's nothing strange about it. As you said, that's capitalism. Western localizers are fucked? They don't get our business. We'll buy direct.

>>8774007

A year. Actually. As long as you stick to it. Several years to master it. Though you'll still need to practice as you can forget.

>>8773921

I'm kinda interested and it looks pretty cheap. I might pick it up, but there's so much other shit coming out right now in Japan that I might just wait for the localization since I'll be able to get that for free.

Going to Japan for a year in two weeks. I know virtually no Japanese. How much should I be able to get done between now and then?

>>8774274

You should be able to Hiragana and Katakana done in that time.

You're lucky. A year in Japan? You'll be closer than most of us to fluency in 6 months.

>>8772248

>>8772261

They don't need to remember because they use the Asian version of spellcheck. They write the word phonetically and the computer supplies the kanji. For real.

I guess it's a good thing in a way, because otherwise they would also forget how to read them. Ironically this might actually save kanji from disappearing, since before the age of computers the young were writing increasingly many words phonetically instead of using Chinese.

>>8774274

>going to a country without even remotely knowing the language

I don't understand this.

Do as much as you can, you can easily do Hiragana, Katakana and (very) basic grammar/vocab.

>>8774343

That's pretty much what I'm hoping.

>>8774354

Nobody in Australia was hiring me for anything at all, so I tried elsewhere. Japan responded, so off I go.

>>8774370

Well, you got instructors waiting for you there right? You're not going to be working without plans any formal language training, right?

>>8774421

I'm going to be teaching English.

I'm planning on taking Japanese classes though.

>>8774445

oh god, you poor poor soul

>>8774457

A job is a job. I'm just happy to be working finally. Plus, Japan right?

>>8774483

Thanks.

>>8774483

no he's not

he's in for one hell of a rude awakening

>>8774486

I'm going to be frank; teaching English is probably the worst job you could've gotten in Japan.

Your pupils will not respect you, and maybe even hate you.

>>8774490

Oh I know. I've read the horror stories. But after being unemployed for over a year, I don't really care.

>>8774540

I'm not gay, but alright. I'll do it for you, anon.

>>8773676

>Weebs pretending not be weebs

I don't think anybody is "pretending" here buddy, this entire site would be better if it was owned by /jp/.

>>8774540

This is why weebs should be killed on sight.

>>8774274

It's going to depend greatly on your level of immersion. If you're going to be on some kind of program to teach English in Japan or something like that, you're unlikely to learn much of anything. A friend of my sister's did one of those programs and came back after a year without knowing a word of the language.

On the other hand, if you're there on your own or as part of a decent language program, you'll learn fast because you'll be using it in every aspect of your daily life. I went that route for two years. Within six months, I was playing video games in Japanese and watching anime without subtitles at a level of "understand more than just the gist of it" level. After a year, I was doing those things with very few instances where I needed to look up a kanji or word. Your mileage may vary.

>>8772956

大好きです。マイ・ワイフは幻想郷人だから。

>>8774540

>三次元

>ショタコン

死ね

>>8774556

moar?

イスラムは糞

>>8782701

お前の特権をチェックしろ、クソ様。

So, I'm playing through DQVII 3DS in Japanese.

…and I'm looking up every bit of vocab I don't know and archiving the word and its meaning on a spreadsheet.

There's exactly two ways this will end. I either get a huge boost of my 日本語 or I die trying.

>>8785990

My man, you need to get anki or memrise or something to that effect. Just add said words/meanings to your deck/personal course, then review every day.

I've been playing through Lufia 2 and adding words to memrise. So far it's been reasonably effective.

Only problem is not every textbox waits for a button prompt and in fact flashes up very fast. So I end up having to pause the emulator for enemy attacks and shit.

>>8786008

I think I'll make it a habit to add my current list once a week and do just that. It'll definitely be good practice.

Huh, actual proof that /v/ can into Japanese pretty well. Well then, it's time to study those Anki flash cards I've been putting off for a while…

>tfw when you manage to understand an entire conversation that you would've had trouble with 6 months ago

I'm getting a little emotional here…

>>8786065

>actual proof that /v/ can into Japanese pretty well

Not really. The Japanese that's been used in this thread shows good effort, but it's still just a step or two above Chaika speak.

>>8787438

Tezura

It's just an item

>>8787894

Looking at it and a few of the spell names in the game, I'm inclined to agree.

I'm guessing it's some obscure pun or something instead of just a random nonsense word.

>>8785990

>>8786008

An easy way to make Anki cards is to use Rikaisama's Anki Import feature. You can even have it automatically add sound.

>>8783796

な… 何？

>>8793109

Well, having 3 languages is always a useful thing on your resume

What kind of retention do you guys realistically shoot for in anki reviews?

I'm currently getting about 10-15% wrong, and wondering if I should stop introducing new cards and just do double reviews for a couple weeks.

>>8793403

I typically get >90% correct, doing 25 new cards per day.

>>8787438

Isn't Katakana used for invented words?

>>8794865

You study vocabulary, and then eventually you will intuitively know when to use which reading.

>>8793580

No. Katakana is used for foreign loan words like hamburger, television, ect. Words made up for a specific game/movie/book/whatever are free to use whichever writing system they want.

>>8794908

I see. Should I just start learning grammar by using Genki, and learn kanji along the way?

>>8794865

http://www.kanjidamage.com/kanji_facts

これは説明する

訓読みと音読みの違いに仕込め

>>8794926

If you haven't already, first you learn hiragana and katakana. After that I recommend you learn all of the kanji meanings in Heisig's Remember the Kanji, which will help you to recognize kanji easier later on. Then start with grammar/vocab while practicing reading with games/manga.

There is no one right way to learn, so you don't have to follow my advice exactly, but you must learn hiragana and katakana before anything else.

>>8793403

I did a fullstop on new cards when I foolishly had a rep limit of 200 and my true reps piled up to over 1000. You should adjust the amount of new cards so your reps stay in a range you are willing to do every day, but definitely do all your reps every day.

Currently I'm going at 25 new cards with about 10% of reps wrong, and my mature cards are increasing.

>>8794952

Shit, thanks anon. Bookmarked.

>>8794965

>first you learn hiragana and katakana.

Yeah I've been practicing that, and I'm finally feeling confident in my ability with those. I can actually read basic twitter conversations that don't use kanji. I still have to look up what I'm reading even means, but I can read it.

>>8795003

rikaichanはインストールしたか？

>>8794925

It's also sometimes used with Japanese words for emphasis or effect or something. When I played Zwei!!, when the dragons talked everything that would be hiragana was katakana. Even the okurigana was in katakana.

>>8795027

rikaichanがないと、全部の言葉を探すことの悪い習慣を取らないかもね

>>8796053

Are there any good websites to practice kana besides real kana?

>>8796096

I think realkana is the best.

>>8796096

色々なことを読んだらきっと分かるようになるね

>>8796096

sorry, didn't mean to reply

>>8796256

大丈夫です

Here's a nice program for learning/practicing moon: http://www.tagaini.net/

It's basically a dictionary aimed at learning. It has animated stroke order, flash cards on par with Anki, and it's free and open source.

>>8773769

I don't even give a shit about currentyear Nintendo, I just like learning the language.

http://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions

このサイトは便利

>>8795993

I know some games where if there is a "foreigner" then their dialogue might be in all katakana too. Pretty funny.

>>8795993

And NoA "translates" it to 1337 sp3ak.

>>8767480

>Spanish

>Mandarin

>useful for vidya

The only thing the Spaniards have done to vidya lately is fuck up Castlevania, and I can't think of anything the Chinks have done at all.

>>8795027

You want を, not　は - the latter indicates that rikaichan is the object that initiated the action of installation, rather than being the object being installed.

>>8807174

MMOs? Also I remember seeing a few Chinese PC RPGs that got localized to Japan by Falcom back in the day which looked interesting. I'd still just play them in Japanese though.

Man, I'm learning Japanese partly to play games in their original language so it'll be a weird day when I play something localized into Japanese.

Now that I think about it, it might be fun to see how some of the translations for western games are. I remember seeing The Witcher 3 got the full treatment with voice acting and everything.

>>8807174

Obscure late-80s and 90s bootleg games. Fun for novelty; not nearly a good enough reason to learn the language though. Other than that, >>8807266

>>8772730

Holy shit! I figured out what that said by context alone, without knowing what 先 says. I feel like I just leveled up a little.