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9953d5 No.222

I'd like to suggest compiling a sweet beginners guide for all this vaping stuff, I look through this board and have no idea what the fuck you guys are talking about. I just wanna be a xXSweetxCloudxChaserXx

3ecb4b No.223

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That's not a bad idea ohmo. I have some tips I guess. If you want to be a cloudchaser, don't worry too much about how much you spend on your gear. Obviously, get some decent gear, but don't go all out. If you spend around 100 bucks on a mod, and an rda, put a good build on it, you're set. How new are you to this?

b4066d No.224

that's an excellent idea
I'll work on a sticky tomorrow

9953d5 No.236

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>>223
I got this hand-me-down from my mom a few weeks ago with some other tank on it, she's really into this vaping and like 4 different vaping stores have sprung up in my town in the past 2 years. I dig reading about all this coiling and whatnot, seems like a neat little hobby.

I don't really care about "cloudchasing", it was something I heard my little brother say that I thought was funny. Being able to blow bigger clouds than him would just be a bonus, he's always buying new mods, if I find out the name of his latest I'll post it here

583b94 No.248

Image is too big to upload so here is a url:
https://i.imgur.com/5s8ScEK.jpg

87582e No.250

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>>248
this ones a good informational starting point, theres also this which is a simpler "wut do i buy" image

0371bb No.261

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This is not an end all be all list for information or videos and there is room for improvement as the industry is constantly changing. I did no image for retailers as everyone has different favorites for who they use. Feel free to add, change, or modify these images as you wish.

Some retailers I have used and like for gear are as follows

http://www.worldofvape.com/
http://101vape.com/
http://www.discountvapers.com/
http://sweet-vapes.com/
http://www.fasttech.com/category/1411/electronic-cigarettes
http://www.vaporalley.com/
http://www.madvapes.com/
http://www.myvaporstore.com/default.asp
https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/

Please note for prices it pays to shop around and it pays to look for on-line coupons.

87582e No.263

>>261
im gonna shill

http://originvape.com/

theyve done me good in the past

2077b0 No.303

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One word of advice I'd definitely give to newbies is to avoid the fucking cigalikes. At least the rechargables. If you wanna try a disposable to see if vaping's for you, go ahead, but the rechargable Blu's are garbage, the Mistics are worse, and while I haven't tried the rechargable EZ Cigs, I can't assume they're much better.

The Blu starter kit seemed like an economical entry point to me a few months back, but since then Evod and a couple others have gotten proper PVs on the market at competitive prices. No point even fucking with them anymore.

929b2a No.307

>>263

Decent prices yo.

9821f5 No.387

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540dd8 No.458

>>303
This. I tried a cigalike thing similar to the Blu maybe a year ago. Didn't do it for me and started smoking again.
Couple of months ago took the plunge with an Innokin Itazte VTR and not smoked for 53 days now. Very happy with it.

7d1dd7 No.487

>>303
I liked using the NJOY king size but they never last for more than a day, plus a single one was more expensive than a pack of smokes so they never worked out

Even the clearos and eGos didn't do it for me

76f0b5 No.1183

>>303
Tried a disposable, and couldn't get a good hit. Then I switched to real vape & fluid and haven't gone back.

Bought a Blu Starter pack for my mom, because she's getting on it years and the cigs are killing her. She can't take a real vape without coughing up a lung.

First Blu Starter Kit was DOA, nobody would give a refund. Blu sent me a new one, but it only decided to charge about half the time. Bought a second kit so she'd always have a cig charged - and the second one was DOA. Didn't even bother sending it back in for a replacement. Switched her to Vuse, but they were too strong and she coughed like it was a 3ft steam roller.

Tried Mark10's… and she gets a good hit, loves the flavor, finally started to get off cigs… but found out that the cartridges only last a few hours before getting "stuck" and burning up, leaving the pull tasting like burnt cotton. 2 refills that only last half a day at 8.00 a pop isn't viable on a fixed income.

Moral of the story… Cigalikes are fucking garbage, every one, and will probably only reinforce your current smoking habit or at the very least burn through your wallet and force you to dual wield anyhow.

Do not buy.

bd8cfc No.1185

Anons i guess this is the place to ask, is this like a hookah in a way?

e7f731 No.1190

>>1185
Very much so. Think portable hookah. Only differences would be that there's no tobacco, or sticky shisha to have to mess with. There's also no water to help cool the vapor. This can be simulated by having a lower power level to your vape. I might be wrong on that last part though as most of that applies to Mech mods and drippers.

Obligatory HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE Because Brazil

e7f731 No.1191

>>1185
I forgot to mention they have this now. It's basically the same concept to vaping and putting it through a hookah. the price is RE-FUCKING-DICULOUS but it's a pretty cool thing if you want that same hookah experience with your own juices.

www.epuffstore.com/portable-shisha-amanoo-e-hookah-head.html?acc=c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b

4df953 No.1194

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>>1191
I never considered such a thing…. but at that price I might just stick to pipe tobacco and my shisha. (Picked it up for $39USD in Ho Chi Minh City last year.)

8c67c7 No.1209

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>>387
That last info graph is just so fucking wrong.
Comparing different nicotine levels to different kinds of Marlboros (light ultra light) is complete nonsense.
Marlboro menthol light was what I would buy when my normal brand was out of stock. The packaging says something along the lines of
"Light in no way refers to nicotine content or as being healthier. Light is a reference to taste."
So please just stop.

>Harmless Vapor

Nicotine is not harmless.
0 nic, you say?
Vaping still has strong links to things like phenomena, more research is needed for anything conclusive but still, until someone debunks it it shouldn't be ignored.
We don't have enough research on the long term affects of vaping to be throwing around words like "harmless", bottom line.

>no such thing as second hand smoke

Technically true in the a very misleading way.
There is instead second hand vapor. There is still smaller amounts of everything that was in the vapor in the second hand vapor, including nicotine. Nicotine is unarguably bad for you. The other things in it? Too soon to say.

Don't fucking lie to people.

dcd61a No.1210

>>1209
This.

76f0b5 No.1216

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>>1209
>Vaping still has strong links to things like phenomena

Can you cite some links to these studies? I searched PubMed and came up with nothing except a single case study. Didn't really find much about it with a Google search either, except for one preliminary study by Laura E. Crotty at University of California San Diego. It seems like extremely preliminary work that was just done this year - meaning no real verification, and not a great deal of rigor. More like something that was worked up to generate interest in conducting further studies for a conference… which it basically was.

Her team's described mechanism for the effect is basically that vaping e-cigs
trigger the MRSA bacteria with a false-positive "danger" stimuli, and triggering their defense mechanisms - making them potentially harder for the bodies immune system to deal with.

http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2014.189.1_MeetingAbstracts.A6624

That's not what I'd call "Strong Links".

If there are other studies, and better ones than this, that I didn't find (granted, I didn't really look that hard)- then please post them.

Studies are great and all, but positive or negative, they don't really amount to crap unless they are indicative of a larger body of work pointing towards a concordance of findings. That's part of why it takes so damned long to determine safety and efficacy in these kinds of things… even moreso on a highly controversial/political subject such as nicotine addition.

76f0b5 No.1218

>>1216
Also, it should be noted that there is a substantial body of research which shows direct and substantial correlation between Tobacco smoking and increased rates of pneumonia incidents and severity. Studies using large samples of actual human smokers and non-smokers.

The study I found only focused on one out of a multiplicity of different (and not the most common, by far) causative agents leading to the development of pneumonia. E-Cigs do not pose a NEW RISK FACTOR, and would only need to demonstrate a reduction in harm potential in order to still be promoted as a safer (though not safe) substitute for Tobacco smoking in regard to increased incidents of pneumonia from use.

8c67c7 No.1223

>>1216
>>1218
"strong links" is a direct quote from my doctor when I asked about vaping. I had seen a few articles, journalistic articles, showing cases of this happening and citing other cases. They also made claims that there was a reason for this to occur not just a fluke. Making the case that even if it's not affecting everyone they are at increased risk.
As far as scholarly articles, I'm starting from square one like you. With a quick search I found a few.
A case study:
http://journal.publications.chestnet.org/article.aspx?articleid=1206478&issueno=4&rss=1
The bring the case that this strain of pneumonia is often caused by fat deposits in the lung tissues.
There are cases where VG is made using animal fats and various other things.
To me this would create some link between the two.

This isn't causal, but that it makes these things worse.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge
Basically, the bacteria that would cause these things more resistant.

So you may be right, and what I said could not be completely accurate in choice of wording, and for that I apologize.

Thank you for questioning it and making me do a bit of research on my own.
This is all just in a few mins searching. I intend to do more in depth research within the next few days and I'll post what I find then.

8c67c7 No.1224

>>1223
I almost forgot.
I am not claiming that it's more risk or new risks in relation to smoking.
I personally think that it's less risks, but the research doesn't seem to be there yet.
My argument is just that it's not without risk.

76f0b5 No.1227

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>>1223
I would ask your doctor for more literature on the subject matter, because it just doesn't seem to be there. My own doctor says he hasn't heard anything about it, and it's not often reported by those in other e-cig forum in threads where they are reporting their experience describing their doctor's reactions.

As to the first link, I'm not really impressed by the findings. By the studies own breakdown of the patient's medical history - she was a trainwreck of a patient that was on several medications.

"Her past medical history also was significant for asthma, reported rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia, schizoaffective disorder, and hypertension. Her medications included amlodipine, albuterol metered dose inhaler, lovastatin, lisinopril, multiple vitamins, cyclobenzaprine, citalopram, and multiple psychiatric medications. The patient reported a recent exposure to fumigation chemicals, as the result of a bedbug infestation of her apartment building 2 weeks prior to her hospitalization."

I would be more apt to suggest that there is a high risk of drug interaction or exposures that lead to the conditions inductive to her E-Cigarette causing lipoid pneumonia, and with more testing on similar cases (if they pop up) - perhaps work out why that is and put the relevant info into a warning section of the literature, just like any drug comes with.

In contrast, the case report I found on PubMed was of an otherwise healthy 20 year old male. Though, the case was acute and there was no causative, only a weak correlative, link established. It's basically just a head's up to other doctors that E-Cigs may possibly be involved with the development of acute eosinophilic pneumonia, and that if patients enter the ED with pulmonary symptoms after Ecig use, that AEP should be considered in the diagnosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24462024


The second link you provided (at least in regards to pneumonia) was citing exactly the same study I already put a link to in my previous post, only filtered through a media outlet. I'm not particularly fond of science and medical reporting in the media, for reasons as described in the pic posted to the left. Sadly, this even effects major science publications like Scientific American and New Scientist (the latter more than the former, but still). I always like going back to the source paper, and to it's credit, the site did a good job of that. Most don't.

Good luck with your search, and definitely give PubMed a try. I didn't find anything particularly relevant, but that's not to say you won't, and there's lots of other good info about E-Cigs there (both positive and negative) - even if it's mostly just abstracts. Sometimes you get lucky and there's a free version in the Link-Out section. Let me know what you turn up.

And just for the record, I wouldn't be surprised if there are strong correlative links to an increase risk of pneumonia, I just don't think the data is there and the exact risk factor has to be known before the statements of "increased risk of pneumonia" can carry any real weight.

Hopefully, if the community can be demonstrated to have a good handle on the actual risk evaluations associated with E-Cig use (which, by and large, they have) and not act like teenagers trying to justify their pot smoking, then we're in that much better of a position to be advocating for sane and reasonable regulations when the regulations do start to really clamp down.

04e945 No.1254

>>1223
VG stands for vegetable glycerine. As long as you get it from a trusted source, I can guarantee you it is not made from any animal.

8c67c7 No.1389

>>1254
From what I've read "glycerin" is a by product. Often produced as a by product when making soap, using fats and/or oils.

VG is most often made using vegetable oil. The two can also be mixed.

>As long as it's a trusted source

I'm not sure about that. I haven't seen anyone publicly state their VG source, or production procedures.

I personally doubt that most of it is but it is possible, especially in cheap juices.

80e588 No.2200

>>250
So I've had a kanger evod 2 for several months. It's okay, but sometimes overheats. How do I into more advanced stuff? How do I coils and wicks? What about vendors?
Can you save money over time with mods, or are they always more expensive than pens, but worth it? Is there a setup I can get for less than $100, or should I stick with what I have if I don't want to spend more?
Sorry for stupid questions, but I don't want to but something and regret it.

9a17eb No.2202

>>2200
I have a K-simar 20 and a aspire atlantis (online less than $100) and there are other tanks that are less expensive than the atlantis. K-simar is not a rebuildable, but I like it more. I'm not sure if they save money, I just wanted something nicer because all the ego/kanger evod types kept breaking on me.



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