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What is the difference between animals and humans that justifies killing one for food when we can just eat plants, but not the other?

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 No.1[Reply]

Daily reminder that you're either a vegan, or you support the internment and slaughter of at least some subset of humans as well as animals.

What's the difference between humans and animals that makes it acceptable to slaughter one for food when we could eat plants, but not the other?

>They aren't human

This implies you would find these things acceptable:

Advanced aliens farming humans

Humans farming aliens

Eating cows/chickens/pigs who's consciousness has been swapped with a humans

>They aren't intelligent

This implies you would find interning severely mentally disabled people (who are less aware than cows/chickens/pigs etc) and breeding them into slaughter acceptable.

>It's tradition, and convenient

Owning slaves, raping children, sacrificing innocents and more have all been cultural tradition that wasn't easily outgrown. Are things of this sort also acceptable, Anon?

>I like the way they taste

If I find something tasty, that makes it acceptable for me to consume it? What if I find newborns tasty?

>We evolved to eat animals

1. Things like rape also have evolutionary value. Is this acceptable behavior for moral agents such as humans, Anon?

2. Carnivores and most omnivores evolved small intestines 3 to 6 times the length of their trunk. They also have a high level of acidity in their gut. These are tools designed for rapid elimination of food that rots quickly (animal flesh and byproducts). Humans, as well as other herbivores small intestines are 10 to 12 times the length of their body, and have low levels of acidity.

3. Look at all the herbivores that have canine teeth.

>We must eat meat for our health

For every health claim you make, I'll rebut it aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.495

>>1

I'd also like to point out that morality is a very dubious basis for the argument in favor of the preservation of animal life. Human beings pride themselves on being intellectual and considerate and thoughtful and logical, but we would be remiss to mention that human beings are also very much in obligation to their basal urges and instincts. People will claim in principle that they uphold a certain morality, yet such morality will cave under the pressures of reality. It's not reasonable to expect someone to maintain the consistency of their moral framework under the stress that reality may bring. For example, if given the opportunity to save oneself in lieu of killing another being, most people would fold under the pressure of their own sense of self preservation, and take the life of another so they could continue existing. Does this suddenly mean that such a person is not invested in their conviction to preserve human life at all costs? No, and that's because the intellectual aspect of the mind cannot inform the visceral reactions that one may have in the heat of any given moment.




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 No.520[Reply]

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 No.519[Reply]

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 No.518[Reply]

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 No.32[Reply]

Would a vegetarian be okay with eating lab-produced meat? No animal is harmed during the process.

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 No.106

>>34

>Veganism is simply rejecting the concept and status of animals as a commodity.

but what's so bad about it? obviously factory farms are disgusting, but take small, local, family farms as an example. those animals have far easier lives than they would in their natural environment. they don't have to worry about getting ambushed gnawed alive by a predator. eventually, they'll get slaughtered, but they'll suffer less than they would from most natural causes of death (obvious exception for kosher/halal slaughter which is unnecessarily cruel for the sake of a primitive religious ritual)


 No.115

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>>106

>take small, local, family farms as an example. those animals have far easier lives than they would in their natural environment. they don't have to worry about getting ambushed gnawed alive by a predator. eventually, they'll get slaughtered, but they'll suffer less than they would from most natural causes of death

If I know that you're almost certainly going to be eaten by a tiger, does that give me the right to go kill you and eat you? How do these "small local farms" slaughter their animals? It's a bolt gun to the head, and a knife in the throat. It's a blender on your first day of life. It's losing your child an hour after it's born so that some smart aliens can drink your milk instead. All farms do this. Tell me how I can do these things, while saying that I love animals, and treat them kindly and humanely?

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 No.126

>>34

Is this the same concept why Vegans justify eating vegetables and fruits? Because the plant itself is alive, it's been proven that they react with fear at being cut, but the produce is basically their way of preserving their sperm, it's technically called fake fruit for a reason.


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 No.517

>>32

Doesn't it defeat the point?

No one's rushing to make human flavoured burgers




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 No.15[Reply]

Well, I honestly think veganism will just restrict your diet and will not provide you with necessary nutrition. So instead of going full blown vegan and avoiding anything animal related, just avoid the meat. Restricting things like egg, or say milk for example would extremely reduce your protein intake. Reason why I'm vegetarian, is because I can't take the taste of meat. But…everything else that isn't meat gets a green light. Sometimes, even fish could do in place of meat, since comparatively fish is a bit more healthier, than say beef.

As for the animal cruelty part, well plants are living things too. Just because they don't show pain, does not necessarily mean they don't feel it. So…you can either feel the guilt and stop eating living things and starve to death, or you can simply accept the truth that to survive as a biological entity, you need to consume other biological entities.

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 No.153

>>151

Not all animal foods require destroying living animals. For example, unfertilized eggs fall out of a chickens ass and rot on the ground if you don't do anything with them just like fruits.


 No.157

>>153

If you eat eggs you're still a vegetarian, retard.


 No.170

>>27

Way more than B12 and dirt is not edible.


 No.235

>>153

If that was what's happening, if you were picking an egg that fallen out of free wild hen's ass on the ground and was abandoned then this analogy could roughly work. But that's not how egg industry works, actually it requires things worse than killing a hen.


 No.516

Drinking milk is still supporting the rape if cows

Eating eggs is still supporting the murder of male chicks/nuggets




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 No.515[Reply]

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 No.179[Reply]

Okay, I can understand the issues with milk. But whats the problem with eggs if you source them locally, know that they're treated well? Those little fuckers would hardly be treated better in 'the wild'. Is it solely the premise of 'owning' the animal that upsets people?

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 No.357

>>237

>Missing the point this hard still


 No.450

>Those little fuckers would hardly be treated better in 'the wild'.

Getting killed quickly by a predator after living free is not worse than being forced to lay eggs 24 hours a day and force fed to the point where their legs break. How long did you think before writing that?

From https://veganrabbit.com/the-issues/rotten-why-eggs-are-bad/:

>When you eat an egg you are supporting the murder of hundreds of millions of male chicks every year (200,000,000 – two-hundred million in the United States alone). They are killed by the hundreds of thousands every day by being thrown in a dumpster and left to die, tossed in garbage bags and suffocated, or more commonly, by being ground up alive in meat grinders.

>Free-range eggs

>The label “free-range eggs” might conjure images of an open pasture, where chickens are free to run around, peck at the dirt, flap their wings and enjoy life, but in truth it is just another marketing ploy. In the USDA’s own words:

> “The birds are raised in heated and air-cooled growing houses with access to the outdoors…”

>This outdoor area that chickens may have access to (and the amount of access they have varies) can be as small as a back porch or covered patio, with a small, hard to find door. While this is a great step in the right direction compared to the lives of conventionally raised egg-laying hens, it is still most definitely not cruelty-free. Once again, many chickens are debeaked, forced to live in their own waste, often fed the same antibiotic and arsenic-laden feed that conventional chickens eat, and are still slaughtered in ways that will make your stomach turn. Free-range chickens are far from free, and they don’t live on a range.


 No.451

>>234

>Normal people don’t have thoughts of “think of the poor farm animals”.

Most "normal" people are nothing more than pleasure seeking animals.

>That’s more of a vegan homo thing.

citation needed.


 No.508

My mum has rescue chickens (ones that escaped slaughter) Is it ok to eat their eggs?


 No.509

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 No.492[Reply]

Reminder for all non-vegans:

WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BUCKO

 No.493

Yeah, because alcohol prohibitionism and the war on drugs were so immensely successful in keeping people from consuming those substances, right?


 No.500

>>493

I disagree with making it illegal, but if it were, it would be more effective than both, at least in reducing meat or eliminating it for a massive amount of the populace.


 No.502

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>>493

Look, nobody's forcing you to eat veggies only, but if you don't start chowing down on some delicious black bean burgers you're going to be munching on bullets instead, capisce pal?


 No.505

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I'm well aware.




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 No.128[Reply]

>I wont go Vegan because its hard and all the food I like is non-Vegan!

I keep seeing Meatcucks say this. I think the biggest problem people have with going Vegan is that they really do feel like they're sacrificing a lot. Which isn't true at all. In fact most things meat eaters like is already Vegan and they don't even know it

ITT: post good vegan food, bonus points if its something people normally don't even associate with Veganism

I'll start with something simple, motherfucking french fries. Bonus: Ketchup to dip the fries in

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 No.481

>>150

That depends HIGHLY on where any given population of humans lived.

That wouldn't have been true for people living in the arctic circle, for example.


 No.485

>Good

>Vegan

>Food

Choose 2 and only 2.


 No.486

>>128

Good 'ole oatmeal.

Bread.

Beer counts as food right? (although some breweries like Guiness apparently use some fish byproduct to control foaming or something)

>>129

True about mushrooms but..

>Oyster shrooms taste just like seafood

You've never had actual seafood, have you?

>>130

>>132

Dairy is OK, but eggs are definitely not vegetarian.

>>411

Give this man some hemlock extract!


 No.503

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>>128

All vegan. The key is in learning to cook, thankfully, plants seem to be easier/faster to cook usually


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 No.35[Reply]

The main reason people find vegetarians and vegans to be so annoying, on a tier above and beyond other proselytizers such as (for example) Jehova's Witnesses, is that deep down they know that the vegetarians and vegans are morally correct, and they resent that.

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 No.252

>>247

dumbass meat eater continues to lie to himself

>>27

>>197


 No.254

>>252

>meat eaters are one person

>there couldn't possibly be two unenlightened non-vegans here


 No.343

>>223

> 80 iq people

Being an effeminate faggot that is too pussy to eat meat despite being evolutionarily predisposed into needing it is not a sign of being smart, faggot.

That's why you vegan faggots shit all day, have vitamin deficiencies (or are addicted to food supplements) and are starving simultaneously.


 No.477

>>223

I forgot about the part of the IQ test at the end where they deduct points for morality


 No.489

>>343

retard alert




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 No.464[Reply]

If it could be demonstrably proven that practically all plant life, and especially the edible varieties that people would consume to sustain themselves, has consciousness, can feel pain, can display some degree of intelligence, and other qualities that vegans attribute to animals in order to assert that their lives are as meaningful or valuable as human life, and therefore should be preserved, would it not stand to reason that their moral high ground would be shattered, should they continue to eat said vegetation? Then what would we eat? Rocks and sand, so that we may honor the sanctity of all life on the planet?

>b-but what about muh environmentalism

Fine, you can have that point in your favor. The agriculture industry and animal slaughterhouses are in large part responsible for the destruction of the planet to some degree, but then again there are many other sources of this destruction and, in order to fully address the issue, we as a society would need to not only cease these activities and industries, but also find tenable alternatives that would allow the products that are yielded from them to continue to be produced. Is such a thing even possible?

 No.470

Fruits and nuts would still exist.


 No.472

>If it could be demonstrably proven that practically all plant life, and especially the edible varieties that people would consume to sustain themselves, has consciousness, can feel pain, can display some degree of intelligence, and other qualities that vegans attribute to animals in order to assert that their lives are as meaningful or valuable as human life, and therefore should be preserved, would it not stand to reason that their moral high ground would be shattered, should they continue to eat said vegetation? Then what would we eat? Rocks and sand, so that we may honor the sanctity of all life on the planet?

Carnist often become plants-right activist when confronted with the system of veganism, ultimately, if this were true, considering that vegans are not against eating meat or killing animals per se, but it is a position of minimizing harm to the greatest degree possible and practicable as in the definition of it then eating plants would still be vegan. If plants were sentient in this way, which they aren't, then not eating meat would reduce the overall harm to them and allow us to live. We aren't against humanity.




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 No.407[Reply]

give me 1 (one) reason to go vegan

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 No.440

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>>407

My opinion of you will go up.


 No.448

>>414

Diets are also propaganda and there is no vegan food.


 No.452

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Taking an animals life is unnecessary when you can get all the nutrients you need from plants. The hidden cost of eating animal products is higher risks of disease; cancer and other diseases are usually just karma.

>inb4 B12

watch video


 No.454

>>452

<Taking this skeleton cuck seriously.


 No.458

>>452

You can't get K2 w/o meat if you're allergic to soy




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 No.403[Reply]

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

A thought I had about this article was that humans and their ancestors could have achieved the same end by developing agriculture and techniques for it, on top of cutting up/mashing their food to reduce the need for so much tooth-age. On top of this, vegan agriculture would lead the way for the establishment of civilization while not draining so many resources, including precious water and land, for raising livestock – this in turn increasing the margin of resources able to be used for the development of said civilizations. I won't deny that meat was convenient for pre-modern humans to consume, but certainly it seems it could have gone a better way, though of course then again you can't really blame semi-primitive apes for not knowing better; historian's fallacy and all. In the modern age, however, we do realistically have no excuse not to transition food production to a vegan base, since the level of productive forces in the world is so intense that there is now way more food in the world than people need – it's just that much of it also gets thrown away because it's not profitable to feed everyone.

Also I guess selective breeding of plants would have helped older human-types to have softer, more nutritious foods, but once again that's something that's rather difficult for ancient people to stumble across, yet something we certainly are able to in the present.

 No.408

>>403

Pretty shit speculation. The reason there are no such cases of this anywhere is because it was ineffectual. If it was so resource draining, any tribe, any group really, which adopted a 'so much more efficient' strategy would have come about and dominated the rest.


 No.410

>>408

More likely that the vegans stopped being fertile (like usual) and/or were killed.

For the health, energy, and hydration that meat provides, there is no real waste.


 No.447

>>415

It's called a farm, which includes livestock.

Your vegan version of history is a fantasy.




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 No.198[Reply]

Not all animals that get eaten are cute and cuddly like some here would lead you to believe with all the cute animal pics posted.

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 No.385

>>345

They would do better than vegan for sure, but of course vegans have to compare themselves to old men because they are so degraded.


 No.406

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 No.417

>>344

Even if you are a veggie or a vegan you should never fucking support PETA holy shit, they're a borderline scam charity.


 No.431

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This is literally what a stack of meat looks like at a butcher's, except in human form. HUNGRY NOW, CARNIVORES?


 No.446

>>431

That is one shitty butcher but the answer is yes.




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