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4a53ab No.61402

A recipie that if you were to put together on paper sounds good but in reality tends to go together like chili and dark chocolate; a very aquired taste that usually only extreme autists like. You'd think this would be kind of hard to fuck up but usually it's down to the playerbase making the games shit. Fags only have to remember (((The Empires Community))) to know what I am on about.

Despite this there are some decent games in the genre out there. All fags have to do is look at games like Battlezone. There's also the various Battlefield games before they went to shit that toyed around with the Commander idea that are fun. While the original Renegade was not an FPS/RTS Hybrid Renegade X got updated to include a Commander.

So the real question I put to fags is what FPS/RTS Hybrids work and when do we play them?

d72cb3 No.61404

Does Zombie Master count? I overall liked Zombie Master even if it was kind of simple.

Wasn't Natural Selection one as well? Only played a little bit of NS though.


4a53ab No.61407

File: 5f15742f362f0c7⋯.jpg (99.23 KB, 1276x720, 319:180, Stanks Vs Adv Guard Tower.jpg)

>>61404

Anything that combines FPS and RTS mechanics together anon counts. Natural Selection is another example of being good in idea but (((community))) turns it to shit.


40f1eb No.61409

>>61407

>Stanks Vs Adv Guard Tower

He finally got his revenge?


4a53ab No.61411

File: a5b0818e0abb0eb⋯.jpg (1006.8 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Rx_PTMenu_Nod_Main.jpg)

>>61409

We don't know how many Stanks he lost in the process :^)


e1ea97 No.61423

File: 5ea6a2aa4223b50⋯.jpg (647.1 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ss_2db02481853f42c146fed58….jpg)

Thoughts on Nuclear Dawn?

I didn't play much and was never a commanderfag myself but I remember enjoying it.

I think what makes these hybrid genre games work is that players are assigned separate roles as seperate genres and depend on each other.

As opposed to a generic FPS where you shoot the other team to win (everyone has the same role).

The (((community))) matters more because you rely on communicating with the other players on your team and them fulfilling their role.

Therefore playing with randoms is a suicide mission.

Also I will now try chili + dark chocolate it seriously sounds pretty good.


4a53ab No.61430

>>61423

I played it briefly and all I remember is finding the UI ass and being unable to figure out shit. Also maps felt a bit claustrophobic. I'm willing to chalk this shit about me being unable to play but honestly I tend to pick up this shit rather quickly and it never clicked.


5c6ea0 No.61444

SOCOM, Ghost Recon and Star Wars Battlefront I guess?


7623d6 No.61535

>>61444

No, no and no!

What honestly is RTS in those games faggot?


3fa820 No.61566

There was fags shilling Savage a while back but I have no idea what came of them. I was debating on trying it but hear mixed things mainly bad stuff about the netcode and balance.


5bb7cc No.61577

>>61444 (wasted trips)

Those are RTT/FPS, my dude.


83c455 No.61579

File: 0f5896755529c98⋯.jpeg (296.58 KB, 1192x1080, 149:135, shinryaku ika musume trap….jpeg)

>>61402

Can Mountain Blade be considered an FPS/RTS?

I mean there is resource collection, Getting units and ordering them around in combat

It has a lot of aspects from both


e57373 No.61586

>>61579

With some mods? Yes. Although it's often played in Third Person.


fc52f7 No.61588

>>61579

The battles would be FPS/RTT, the campaign just a plain old RTS/RPG.


5c6ea0 No.61595

>>61535

Oh RTS

Eeeehm, Battleswarm?


382e9b No.61672

>Renegade

If Renegade is so great why haven't we played it yet?


4a53ab No.61718

File: ed52571a6ca3400⋯.jpg (240.33 KB, 485x600, 97:120, renegade-concept28.jpg)

>>61672

I've asked before if anons wanted me to host a server for a brief bit but there was not much in the way of interest.


d72cb3 No.61797

>>61718

There's also the Tiberian Sun and Red Alert mods for the classic Renegade, but both of those require some shitty launcher that I couldn't get to install properly.


e9f252 No.61799

>>61718

Did you make a thread saying what the game actually is with DL links and such?


4a53ab No.61812

File: b120e01947c4d17⋯.jpg (28.32 KB, 497x373, 497:373, Needspoonfed.jpg)

>>61797

Attempts were made to get a non shit launcher working but it didn't get that far.

>>61799

What anon? Do you need spoonfed? :^)


73e5c6 No.61929

>>61812

I like being spoonfed though?


aa351a No.62196

>>61579

god i want to munch squid pussy


ace24f No.62516

So does nobody want to play Renegade X? I guess OP was right


b02a22 No.62577

File: 4d750908b461de8⋯.png (1.46 MB, 1024x768, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>61579

Well for one thing it's considered mostly Third Person rather than First Person

Which begs a good question. Why does everyone focus on FPS/RTS hybrids when there's tons of Third Person RTS hybrids? Rise and Fall being an example of one of them which was essentially Age of Empires but you could play as your hero units. Then there's also Men of War. List goes on.


81f6b2 No.62626

I unironically enjoyed the new Carrier Command except when the game turns into a manta racing sim


b804f9 No.62706

>>62626

I was wondering what that game was like. Debated waiting till "Mods will fix it!" then sort of forgot about it.


6a978f No.62814

>>62626

>manta racing sim

Care to explain anon? I am interested about piratefagging it


cb181a No.62943

>>61579

Well it is probably the best hybrid.


5bb718 No.62954

>>61579

Base Blade? Not really.

Butterlord though is going to be a hybrid of Total War and an RPG.


31c6af No.63129

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

NEVER EVER


60ec7a No.63136

>>63129

Not without a cancer client anyway.


31c6af No.63152

>>63136

>implying the gamenight fags can't just zip the program folder and use the CnCNet Renegade Launcher


b99c9b No.63161

>>62706

>>62814

The game is rough as hell, plus people lost their fucking minds when you start out as an infantryman and you get the carrier later in the plot. The shooting is crap and the pathfinding is terrible, but you can switch to controlling individual units on the fly, so it's easily able to be worked around. When you're actually into it, you get 4 ground vehicles with a bunch of selectable weapons, and armor platings with a speed vs health tradeoff. Same with 4 aircraft called mantas. It's surprisingly hard to hit shit with your weapons on the move as a ground vehicle, especially powerful stuff like plasma cannons, so I always had a vehicle with the hitscan laser. Or you can turn on auto-aim but it's stupidly heavy as in your laser practically shoots sideways to hit shit.

The manta racing sim is what I'm calling a mission where you have to catch some guy in a manta. The mantas have a huge acceleration on their controls like a racing sim. I was playing on PC and I found this section so bad I had to get out a controller to complete it.

I have a perverse love for 6-7/10 games, bear this in mind when you decide.


003f78 No.63205

>>63161

>Controls making shit impossible

This triggers me a lot about games. Do devs not playtest anything before they release it?


24c8c9 No.63284

>>63152

You'd be surprised since it was tried before and it did not work properly or at least in a way that was not a pain in the ass.


92ce00 No.63325

>>63152

Fags won't even download Renegade X what makes you think they will try that?


266883 No.63370

File: 445817c54f3b12a⋯.png (10.87 KB, 307x462, 307:462, 1450834470825.png)

>>63325

>things they do every game night won't do this time

They've downloaded Project Reality before.


66867b No.63520

>>63370

>Project Reality

That was funny how the PRfags managed to get into a war with the /k/ cause they could not take honest criticism of the game and the community at large.


4a53ab No.63541

Half tempted to host a Renegade X game if only for a few hours to test the waters this weekend but that's only if I get chance to do it. That or try and get Piratefag Renegade working and make it retard anon proof


ace24f No.63560

>>63541

It would conflict with the Barotrauma fags though.


f08c75 No.63580

>>63520

The fuck why? It's not like making accurate depictions of weapons or history is hard.


29c3ec No.63590

>>63580

Wish I took screencaps but to give an idea /k/fags made a legit criticism on the game mechanics and approached it as if it was vidya; in particular they complained about how the bleeding worked was bad and drawdistance abuse made a lot of cover worthless. PR fags claimed that the game was hyperrealistic at which point /k/ tore them to shreds later being revealed in a meta discussion that PRfags tried to argue with a real life US Combat Medic and Brit Paramedic on how bleeding worked and lost badly. Then they tried to claim the game was good cause it was unrealistic which just made /k/ tear them apart harder. It was like watching a bunch of retards dig a pit for themselves and each time they tried to dig themselves out of it they just dug themselves deeper.

PRfags essentially made it impossible to invite /k/ to gamenights for a long ass time due to their blind shilling of PR trying to defend the game against a board that is legitimately the last place you want to pick a fight with.


392d44 No.63812

>>63560

So? /vg/ has had multiple gamenights going before.


64dc10 No.64352

You know we could always squat on a Renegade X server if fags really wanted to play? There are a few admins who are chill. Just saying.


390103 No.64540

>>64352

Might as well throw an unofficial night for it.


4a53ab No.64628

>>64540

>>64352

If you make a gamenight in a server you don't control then it will end badly. We learned this the hard way when there was a PR gamenight which honestly majority of the problems were down to anons not having their own server to shitpost in.

Still nothing stops us meeting up and squatting in a server and shitposting together. I just think we'll all end up banned for stacking Nod.


31c6af No.64659

>>64628

>I just think we'll all end up banned for stacking Nod.

Autobalance?


5509e4 No.65139

>>64659

One Nod against 63 (((GDI))) players? I'd still think that makes Nod OP.


44de8a No.65176

>Anons stack Nod

>Proceed to drive Stanks into pillboxes placed by (((GDI))) Kurwas


7c5dac No.65236

>>65176

pillboxes are Allied though.


7c5dac No.65237

File: 3bbb1ff19967901⋯.png (34.06 KB, 1114x192, 557:96, ClipboardImage.png)

>>63129

wich of you fags wants to infiltrate the team and make maps for them?


883997 No.65289

>>65237

What are the map tools even like? I could have a go if they are simple enough.


125586 No.65294

>>65289

IIRC W3D is retarded and it uses 3D modelling tools for mapping:

https://w3dhub.com/forum/topic/414491-very-basic-map-making-tutorial/


20c60e No.65298

>Anons making Renegade maps

All I can picture is the Gas Chamber of Secrets and the Peace Windmills.


125586 No.65313

File: 031169fbd0de4c0⋯.png (1.12 MB, 1202x655, 1202:655, ClipboardImage.png)

>>65298

You can also heil in APB (but your weapon remains in your hand).


495dec No.65397

>>65313

SIEG HANDGRANATE!


725f3f No.65740

>>65294

That would mean maps would involve a lot of autistic playtesting.


3b1238 No.65936

>>65313

It wouldn't be hard to mod the grenade model out.


943788 No.65997

>>63590

Oh, so that's why they don't allow anyone else to edit their mod or even just host servers for their mod - they're giant, retarded narcissists.


49424e No.66061

>>65997

Most modders are. See what happened to Tripwire as a prime example of a mod team turning into the ultimate faggot.


60ec7a No.66081

>>65997

There's instructions for hosting a LAN server using the BF2 dedi on their forums, but not sure if it actually allows you to connect:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134409#post2068401




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