/vir/ - Virtual Reality

>>1477

No date yet, but probably in November or in the holiday season at the latest.

Hopefully posting will pick up when they are out. Gear VR is already out. Why is no one contributing to the board hardly.

Except

>>1537

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>>1628

It's like the chicken and egg problem of online communities. Since there's not many people, people aren't as inclined to join in or start something.

I have a Gear VR and love it. I love talking about it. I'm actually already quite satisfied with the amount of discussion I have about it in real life and online, not on /vir/. So I'm already taken.

No shit they're supporting the GearVR with Oculus SDK, it should have been obvious that the games being developed for the Rift would be ported to later versions of the GearVR as it's a device being made in close collaboration with Oculus. The software store on it is called 'Oculus Home'. This says jack shit about third party developers wanting to use their exclusive platform.

That's the whole issue he's been constantly avoiding for over a year now. He initially sold his project as 'an open platform' for VR. The only thing that's 'open' about his SDK is that the source is open to the public;

>One can't redistribute anything less than the whole program libOVR.

>One's distribution rights can be terminated on vague conditions.

>Those who make modified versions are required to send them to Oculus on demand.

>Use is allowed only with their product.[1]

>New license versions totally supplant old versions, which means that permissions already given can be withdrawn.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#OculusRiftSDK

[1] This isn't 100% correct, there's a provision allowing 'DIY' HMD projects to use it. Commercial headsets aren't allowed to use it without permission.

And let's not forget them dropping the Linux and Apple support while throwing in a Windows 10 exclusive wireless controller with every consumer headset;

>My computer doesn’t “magically” gain any new broadcast capabilities when I upgrade it to Windows 10. This is purely a driver issue, and Microsoft decided not to build drivers for people on Windows 7 and Windows 8. That’s ridiculous. It’s the exact opposite of an open community.

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>>1472

This

>>1494

Most I've seen is a ponyville environment. with ponies wandering around

>>1142

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>>1407

If all bronies did was want to fuck girls like that, I'd accept them. Sadly, it seems they can't stay in the containment boards with the rest of the furfags.

>>1142

Time has been irrelevant for a long time now. I stopped thinking of it as reliable once m00tle was voted the most influential person in the world.

>>1301

There is some decent reason for it if you employ critical thinking instead of waiting for retards here to regurgitate things they read on "news" sites.

>>1299

>Oculus has said before that their Constellation tracking system will be free and open to third parties in the same way HTC has announced theirs will.

Yeah, and Oculus said before that their whole damn SDK would be free. HTC is no better, with the nerve to call their shit OpenVR.

>>1305

>But in the back of my mind there's a voice saying that it's all wishful thinking and that Valve will end up disappointing those of us expecting VR to be open and free in a manner similar to what Oculus did.

Stop expecting things if you're so fucking dense.

>>1306

>I am speaking from experience of the Vive, Rift, etc.

I hope the "etc" means you're an OSVR partner with a recent HDK, else your claims are just as bullshit as everyone else's. See: >>1279

I swear everyone here is either a shill or a retard, or both.

>>1306

>But Valve isn't completely open. Their solution isn't actually open source.

According to what Valve said when they announced it it'll be possible to use it without Steam and it will be open. Right now it's still in beta testing and it's still far off from a commercial release so you're right that it isn't 'open source' right now. And most people here I'd expect know better than to use that worthless marketing term, it's the permissiveness of the license that matters not whether the code is provided to the public.

Again I'm half expecting them to go back on their word and that their claims are all bullshit to build up hype similar to what Oculus did.

>>1307

>HTC is no better, with the nerve to call their shit OpenVR.

They're much better considering that OpenVR uses an FSF approved license;

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/blob/master/LICENSE

I have no idea what your problem with the Vive is. Did I miss something that makes this not worth using to someone who cares about the licensing issues?

>>1308

OpenVR is NOT free software. The Oculus SDK is closer to being free (but still is not).

1) That repository is not free, because it does not contain the source code.

2) Even if it was free, it is useless by itself and useless in the free world in the context of the proprietary runtime.

See: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/issues/8

This cheeses me off no end but I'm going to bite the bullet and get the vive and the rift. Money isn't an object to me.

It's annoying because I want to stick to FOSS as much as possible but I figure money spent on VR in general will show that there is demand and we'll get more open platforms eventually. Mostly looking forward to flight/space sims and porn.

I want Vive right now, even though the technology for it might change pretty quickly. I plan to resist buying a Rift, because I don't want to support them. For the time being, I'm getting a GearVR

>>1531

After you create a light field video, you probably are going to want something to watch it back on. Lytro has built a player that will leverage the entire 4D light field, allowing positional tracking, for example, during playback. Initially, the company is only focused on ‘higher end’ VR headsets like PSVR, the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, but others are likely to follow (hardware constraints on positional tracking notwithstanding, of course).

Beyond the actual player software, Lytro has also built a streaming server prototype, which should optimize bandwidth for streaming delivery by only delivering the content within the user’s field of view (while streaming other regions at lower resolution). Lytro’s team compares it to Facebook’s streaming 360 video solution, though with the obvious added complication of positional data.

Lytro is planning to make prototypes available to content creators in Q1 2016, just in time for the consumer VR headset releases. According to the company, Lytro Immerge will be available for purchase at a cost that is “in line with other high end systems,” as well as being available for rental.

With the Lytro Immerge we are preparing to enter a whole new realm for filmmaking, especially within the VR space and it is something that has even the biggest VR content companies jumping for joy.

“Everybody is talking about light fields and nobody fully understands the potential yet. Light field technology is probably going to be at the core of most narrative VR,” says Aaron Koblin, Co­founder and CTO of Vr​se. “At Vr​se, we’re just waiting for the moment when we have the tools. I think both the capture and playback of light fields will be the future of cinematic virtual reality.”

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New Thread >>1537

This one is getting slow.

FreeVR is an open-source virtual reality interface/integration library. It has been designed to work with a wide variety of input and output hardware, with many device interfaces already implemented. One of the design goals was for FreeVR applications to be easily run in existing virtual reality facilities, as well as newly established VR systems. The other major design goal is to make it easier for VR applications to be shared among active VR research sites using different hardware from each other.

Currently, C is the only language for which a fully developed API exists. Of course, C++ will also work, but no extra features have been added to complement it. However, many C++ applications have been written using the FreeVR library, including many student programming assignments, and interfaces to other libraries with only C++ APIs, such as OSG and ODE.

Thus far, FreeVR has been interfaced to four graphics libraries:

OpenGL,

OpenSceneGraph,

Delta3D,

OpenSG, and

SGI's Performer.

Input devices/protocols that are currently able to be used:

X-windows (provides keyboard & mouse input – useful for simulating VR inputs)

Win32 (used for keyboard and simulated inputs under Cygwin)

Static — a device with constant (or constantly changing) inputs

Generic Shared Memory (usable with systems that put values into shared memory)

Ascension Flock of Birds

InterSense IS-900

AR-Tracking systems via dtrack protocol

Polhemus Fastrak

Magellan (aka SpaceMouse) 6-DOF input device

SpaceTec SpaceOrb 6-DOF input device

SpaceTec SpaceBall 6-DOF input device

Fakespace Pinch Glove

Linux "joydev" game controller interface

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The Developer Edition of the HTC Vive is only available to a select few.

The SDK is open for public use. It provides support for the HTC Vive Developer Edition, including the SteamVR controller and Lighthouse.

Based on this information we can't be sure if this library will change drastically in the future or not, since the currently available SDK only covers for the Developer Edition.

This SDK comes with documentation and samples. Valve likes calling things "open" and "source", but obviously this SDK is not open-source.

Along with the OpenVR SDK support has been added to support Unity via the SteamVR Unity Plugin and native SteamVR support in Unreal 4.8. Both will be available soon(™).

You can still sign up as developer at the time of this post: http://steamcommunity.com/steamvr/signup

http://steamcommunity.com/steamvr

http://www.htcvr.com/

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/

>>845

I don't see the value in such a high level interface. Just present the programs with a double buffered framebuffer to render into or one or more video-outputs to render to (and desired fov, resolution, current orientation/location, etc).

>>405

>>413

>implying OSS VR hasn't existed before the OR

>implying the OR didn't start on a forum filled with OSS VR HMDs.

>>1279

So you propose scaring people away with elitism instead?

>the sensations while playing are very strange a new kind of out of body experience almost your eyes tell you you're moving but your body doesn't.

Sounds like "simulation sickness". But considering the game in the video had a cockpit view, it probably wan't as bad as some of the other classic vr games.

This playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97EDA740343B580B has a fairly large collection of classic vr gameplay clips.

I especially like clips that have Jaron Lanier interviews from his vpl days.

This one has another great interview with Jaron Lanier.

A report on virtual reality in japan at the time.

I think it would be extremely cool to have an empty room set up for VR along with a Vive, so that you can set up an entire room of virtual monitors and data visualizations.

let's discuss hardware-wise how we can achieve the most realistic waifu simulator possible right now (or in the next few years)

don't worry about how consumers will fit whatever in their living rooms or about how stupid people will look strapped into a harness to walk or about how normie gaymers will afford a comprehensive vr setup

* hmd

* locomotion

* head tracking

* hand tracking

* limb tracking

* handholding

* hugging

* responsive onaholes

* robot waifus mirroring in-software waifu behaviour

* facial expression detection

* eye tracking

>>1469

>hmd

osvr hdk, or anything else per personal preference

>locomotion

virtuix omni: can sit, crouch

infinadeck: can use waifubot, onahole, etc more comfortably without a harness?

the biggest problem I see with the whole setup lies here: transitioning from sleeping to walking to lewd is difficult when locomotion revolves around a surface or harness. I guess the best that can be done trivially is to put a bed next to an infinadeck. orientation is a problem

>head tracking

osvr hdk (ir)

>hand tracking

leap motion: bare hands enables handholding

glove-based tracking with haptics: includes haptics, but are they good enough for feeling you're waifu?

>limb tracking

kinect: don't need to wear shit

ir: accurate

useful for tracking lewd and other activities off the locomotion device especially

>handholding

diy cyberskin-covered robot hands?

>hugging

same?

haptics?

>responsive onaholes

novint falcon

>robot waifus mirroring in-software waifu behaviour

the hardest thing to emulate in vr is touch. haptics aren't enough. for the near future, we can mirror what happens in the virtual world in reality with robots

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>What 3DS content would you like to play in VR?

pokemon, what else?

I wouldn't mind playing an arcade racer in VR, one with drifting controls. would be pretty fun, if not nauseating

>>1371

''There's a kart racing game, VR karts, that you could try. It's old and was made for DK2 so I think that they'll improve it after CV1 comes out.

>>1372

I think it is best practice to refrain as much as humanly possible from using HUDs because they detract from the experience and get in the way more often than not. Well at least for video games that might even be the case for CAD tools and what have you.

A good HUD should be minimal and as unnoticeable as possible popping up only when you absolutely need it then disappearing when you do not.

Ideally I'd want as many functions as possible to be easily accessible and feel natural without the need for a HUD or intrusive elements obscuring your vision or hindering your focus on whatever it is you intend to do.

In some cases the HUD might be your object of focus momentarily, such as opening up a map of the area, or you might want to keep a small mini map in the corner of your vision to guide you.

There must be a way to remove all HUD elements however should they become an eye soar.

Hell a good idea would probably be to have HUDs as intractable objects in the environment.

Like looking down and playing around with the radio in the car for instance, or ordering your fleet from a hologram in the command room.

GUI objects should not be parented to your head or waist because it's awkward to have an interface object that's a part of your body. Further, a GUI can't interrupt your movement or reset your body position, which makes a traditional game pause menu cheat-prone. Menu objects would either be independent objects in the world or hand-held, and would not interrupt the application.

The most comfortable standing experiences will be applications that are designed as if they were room-scale holograms rather than massive open worlds.

Wait two more years

option 1: Realize you're not having facebook strapped to your face and buy the rift.

option 2: Forget vr and move on with your life.

>Can't Vive

>Don't want oculus

>Hate Samsung

>what do?

PSVR

>>1352

>>1353

Graphics cards will be cheaper late 2016 and as the gen 1 headsets will all have released by then, it's easier to plan long-term for the road ahead.

Hardware manufacturers are collaborating with Oculus to create "Oculus ready" pre-built PCs. Naturally, you can get better graphics cards for less if you can wait a while.

That also guarantees more content, because if VR really takes off, content will be coming at a much faster pace. The launch content seems pretty slim with few actual games and mostly tech demos.

Until then, PSVR seems like the best option as it's standardized to a closed ecosystem, especially if you already own a PS4. If not, then well, you'll need to cough up cash for a rig that can power VR anyway, be it a PC or a console.

PSVR comes with waifu simulator and I already have a PS4 so for me that's a no-brainer.

I'm going to invest in a killer mustard rig probably late 2016, but that depends on the market. I might wait.

Either way, we have nothing to lose by looking ahead and seeing how VR is received and how it evolves, if you are in doubt.

>>504

liberal dancing simulator