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 No.372790[View All]

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 No.373359

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>>373353

Hang in there ♥


 No.373360

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>>373355

you have to say pls

>>373356

does acid really make you rainbow coloured?


 No.373361

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>>373358

Not at all. They didn't have a clue about it.

N-not really sadly

>>373359

I'll try.

>>373360

I think it would be more appropriate to see the rainbows.


 No.373362

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>>373361

How are you using your trip and your pics if you're not back home?


 No.373363

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 No.373364

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>>373363

>>373358

>hey are you back home?

>>373361

>Not at all.

>N-not really


 No.373365

>>373362

I was saying that they didn't find out about this place.


 No.373366

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>>373360

Wow I'm not degrading myself publicly


 No.373367

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>>373365

So then you ignored his question of "are you back home?"

So it was pretty reasonable for me to ask the question I did.

Are you fixed now?


 No.373368

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>>373346

>>373348

Hey.

>>373357

Yeah. dvt555#1212


 No.373369

>>373367

I didn't ignore it. I'm sure he knew what I meant.

Nope. i'm worse than ever and my psych gave up on me.


 No.373370

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>>373369

Then why were you discharged?

What do you mean he gave up on you?


 No.373371

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>>373370

He told me that he can't do anything for me anymore and said that I could just leave whenever.

Rather be at home than the hospital.

Said that i should just do CBT instead because he can't help me at all.


 No.373372

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>>373370

hey how are you? :)

don't take this the wrong way but how come you don't come into chat and ask stuff? everyone is there.

>>373368

unlock all the heroes one by one 1st, there are a bunch of hidden ways to get gold i will send you a link to the list.


 No.373373

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>>373364

sorry just trying to confirm

>>373366

degradation is hot tho


 No.373374

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>>373371

Find another doctor, he sounds shit.

Good to have you home so you can get back to your shitposting, I guess.

>>373372

What do you mean? Ask what?

I don't join often because I'm an introvert and I like my space. I don't like being messaged all the time.


 No.373375

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>>373374

Probably should… but then it's like starting all over again. I don't know if I can do it all again.

Yeah. Thanks a lot..


 No.373376

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>>373375

What other choice do you have?

I was being sarcastic.


 No.373377

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>>373374

ok i get it. thought i saw you there one time.

<3


 No.373378

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>>373377

You did.

We literally spoke yesterday.

I just don't go that often.


 No.373379

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>>373376

I don't know. Giving up. I had a feeling that a stimulant might've helped me be able to just push through shit with concentration and focus but they can't give me any because australian laws are stupid.

I don't know if I can put more trust in anti-depressants after reading things in research that make me question them even more. Plus the doctors never being able to give me a solid answer on why I should trust them and try again apart from saying "I think this one will work" with no more reasoning and expecting me to blindly believe say "sure" and down pills.

That's not like you to be sarcastic to me.


 No.373380

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>>373379

You don't want to give up. Inside we all have a will to survive. You need to focus on that.

You should trust them because they're doctors and they go to medical school for a long time.


 No.373381

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 No.373382

>>373380

I'm slowly losing that will. I try to, but it gets harder and harder.

Putting psychs on par with doctors is demeaning to real doctors.

The research is even worse. The general consensus is that they don't have a fucking clue and just have stab in the darks with shit.

I want their opinion on why I should try them given results in numerous papers stating that each is no more special than the last. Plus self-reporting is hard to say "oh it definitely works".

He wanted to change me to a med that had the highest increase of suicidal thoughts amongst all anti-depressants and I told him that I was already having severe suicidal thoughts that and didn't feel comfortable taking them. If all he can tell me is "take this pill, we'll see how it goes". How can I put faith in him when the research itself can't even put faith in anything besides: it sometimes works but nearly all patients relapse and only score their personal symptoms with self reporting.

Until there is a better way to measure such a thing the research is just taking stabs in the dark.


 No.373383

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>>373372

I've been unlocking them. Alright. Thanks.

>>373381

Good night.


 No.373384

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>>373383

I'm not going to bed..


 No.373385

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>>373384

Vampires sleep in coffins.


 No.373386

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>>373385

The fuck are you on about?


 No.373387

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>>373382

Being a psychologist is in some aspects even more challenging than being a medical doctor since you're not treating a physical ailment and you can't just treat it with a physical procedure, you're dealing with the mind and all of it's complexities.

I understand what you're saying, but unfortunately this is where our science is at right now. As evolved as we are, we don't have all the answers.

Look at cancer treatment. Literally the best we have is drowning people in radiation and cutting chunks of them out.

The best we have for mental illness is certain medications and things like CBT.

Maybe that pill he is suggesting would make you feel better. You shouldn't just write it off as a "stab in the dark".


 No.373388

>>373387

Sure. I agree. But it doesn't make them smarter by any regards.

I know. That's the problem. Cancer research is further along than mental illness. We already know why cancer happens, the exact genes in combination that result from it. The problem is the genetics of the cancer itself.

He was literally the one to tell me to stop taking it when I told him that my suicidal thoughts had increased and said it was a waste of time. This was the med he told me was "the best". It literally is a stab in the dark when the best advice/reasoning he can give me is "it's worked in another of my patients".

Besides not listening to me and telling me that my depression is just a result of my anxiety only makes me feel worse.

My sister has already tried CBT and told me about what they do. It's not going to help when I know of the problems and ways to try and deal with them despite it not helping.


 No.373389

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>>373388

It's all about how you look at it. Yes you could see it as a stab in the dark. Or you could see it as people have different minds and different things work better for different people. So you have a process of trial and error to find out what works best for you.

It likely is a result of it though. They have an extremely high rate of comorbidity.

Obviously I can't help you that much since I'm still very ill myself and clearly don't have the answer.

All I can say is vid related.


 No.373390

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>>373385

>>373386

DARREN I MUST KNOW!!!


 No.373391

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>>373389

If he told me directly to stop taking his so called 'best medicine' why would I try others that even in all papers give similar results if not worse.

I agree. I didn't say it wasn't. But I told him numerous times that my depression was far worse than anxiety yet he still said i was only depressed because of my anxiety.

Even when I told him that I could deal with my anxiety in parts but not my depression he still said no. Then how am I to feel after he tells me i'm practically a lost cause and to get fucked.

>>373390

I didn't know you like Mckenna.


 No.373392

>>373388

But he's right, if you find yourself incapable of pursuing other means you should definitely at least try certain meds.

I'm probably going to be on meds myself in a few weeks, something which I've tried to avoid but it seems unavoidable at this point.

In this regard the comparison to cancer is extremely valid, if your options are perishing or putting yourself in active danger because there's a chance the treatment will be successful to a certain degree, there really is no need for analysis there.

CBT from what I've heard is or can be extremely viable so I think it would be extremely unwise to not attempt it either.


 No.373393

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>>373391

I just started saving pics.


 No.373394

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>>373392

I've tried certain meds as they have suggested with everything only getting worse.

Comparing it to cancer is absurd. Treatments are vastly different. Not to mention there are high survival rates with most common cancers.

Sure it can. There's also several papers stating over 70% relapse rates in such cases after 6 weeks. I've done mindfulness to no avail. Of course im still going to try CBT; only because it's free. If it works then fucking fantastic, but the idea's and theories behind it don't sound promising at first glance. Especially when my sister has directly told me "it's a load of shit and did nothing for me".

But as I said, fucking great if it works.

I find it hard to believe it will help much when i already can identify my own cognitive behaviours in response to things and ideas or w/e to try and deal with them.

>>373393

She really is such a qt.


 No.373395

>>373391

>If he told me directly to stop taking his so called 'best medicine' why would I try others that even in all papers give similar results if not worse.

what did he mean by best? most likely he meant 'was most effective for the largest number of patients', or alternatively 'worked best for patients in such and such situation'. that doesnt mean that another medication that isn't 'best' for the majority of people isn't 'best' for you.

>Even when I told him that I could deal with my anxiety in parts but not my depression he still said no. Then how am I to feel after he tells me i'm practically a lost cause and to get fucked.

that's one idiot. psychiatrists' knowledge is mostly quantitative; this medicine caused such and such an increase in seratonin uptake in 58% of patients with the Dnat-1 gene and 33% with the dnat-2 variant or whathaveyou. Their ability to empathize with patients and understand their personal psychology is almost nil. even he understands that at a high level, which is why he recommended you to a psychologist. at least give cbt a go. it's one thing knowing the big picture of what it is, it's another to experience it yourself. it's like trying to know everything about what it's like to live in paris by reading travel guides.


 No.373396

>>373394

>Of course im still going to try CBT; only because it's free. If it works then fucking fantastic, but the idea's and theories behind it don't sound promising at first glance. Especially when my sister has directly told me "it's a load of shit and did nothing for me".

I'm glad to hear that you're trying. But a lot of it is dependent upon who you're working with. Shop around for a psychologist you like and who clicks with you personally. if you have to visit ten different people before you find one you like, then so be it


 No.373397

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btw mckenna is queen


 No.373398

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>>373394

one med or technique not working for someone doesn't mean it won't work for everyone. CBT has a lot of evidence behind it which is meant to be your reason for not trying the other drug, stop looking for the negatives in every option.


 No.373399

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>>373394

I didn't mean to suggest that the comparison to cancer is valid in terms of the details of treatment or anything, only that cancer patients endure incredible pain for the chance of betterment.

Similarly, one should also be willing to perhaps waste time and energy to get better when one suffers from mental illness.

That was my only proposition.

I'm not sure what you're suffering from but I reckon it's some form of anxiety disorder, I've actually spoken to many people who told me that CBT saved their lives but I realize I can't make generalized statements here, I also don't want to invoke unfulfillable hopes within you.

But yeah you should definitely try it at least, and perhaps not go into it with this ominous pessimism that seems to be clouding your consciousness.

This probably sounds very invalidating, but I'm not trying to judge you or perhaps pin-point any kind of fault on you, but as clichéd as it sounds, hope and a positive approach is really crucial a lot of the time.

Understanding the roots of your problems and perhaps having a semi-concrete idea of how to battle them is really good, but CBT isn't just talking things through, it's about conditioning your behaviour into a more stable and self-preserving state which cannot be achieved that easily on your own without professional help.

So what I'm saying is any preconceived ideas you have regarding CBT are probably largely useless right now.

Mindfulness has helped me an incredible amount, so I would actually like to accuse you of not handling mindfulness the right way but I really don't know your situation and it might be an inappropriate suggestion.


 No.373400

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>>373395

Naturally it was a vague statement and I knew that. In papers and his own experience it has slightly better results and was able to be prescribed for a wider range of conditions making it more effective.

I understand that completely. I know why the medicine/research targets such things too. I'd do the same fuckin' thing if i was designing a drug. Doesn't mean it works though.

As i said I will give it a go, but am not expecting that much. I get 10 free sessions apparently.

>>373396

The idea of starting again with a new psychologist makes me anxious but I know I should do it. It's most likely due to him being my first psychologist giving me a fairly deep impression on them too.

Not to mention if I can't have it bulk billed then I can't go to them because I don't have the money for such a thing.

>>373398

I didn't say that. I didn't even bring up CBT at all. HE did. I merely mentioned to him what I had read on the medications alone.

Papers mentioned it in conjunction with medication as a means for comparison in their results at times.

>>373399

I know all these things already. I know that pessimism only ruins the outcome of such a thing. I have an open mind to it it's just something I consider in it.

I was literally just in a psych ward for over a week doing mindfullness four times a day.


 No.373401

>>373400

That's good.

Mindfulness starts having real effects on your psyche -and- most importantly on the make-up of your brain after 8 roughly weeks.

It takes years, probably decades to 'unlock' an enlightened level of mindfulness.


 No.373402

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>>373400

Even if they won't bulk bill many psychologists are open to negotiating on fees. In fact the best ones in it for the right reasons generally will, and if they're not willing it's probably a good sign you'd be wasting your time in the first place. when you call to make an appointment with these people asking about payment should be one of the first things you do. explain your financial situation and how much you're able to afford. if they're not going to talk to you for less than 200 bucks an hour then don't let them bully you into it.

i know it's stressful and a huge undertaking so try to prepare a little bit. try googling for advice on picking the right psychologist and what are some good things to pick up on when you're talking to them on the phone for the first time and when you go to make your initial session.

best of luck. like i said before we're rooting for you.


 No.373403

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>>373401

My primary concern with mindfulness is having to continually do it. I know it's a lazy idea but I know that i would almost certainly waver in my schedule if you want to call it that.

Probably doesn't help that my brain is currently all kinds of fucked from the large amounts of AD i was on only a week ago.

>>373402

I wouldn't. I would tell them to get fucked if they try to charge me that.

I can barely pick up a phone to call someone so that's probably going to be had.

Anyway i'll stop now.. I really hate talking about this and just annoying everyone with my problems.


 No.373404

>>373403

Well the studies I read claimed that 10 minutes a day is enough, though an open end is preferable.

It doesn't really interfere with anything in my life, I do it in the morning.


 No.373405

>>373404

Yeah, i know. Even that I would fall out of habit with i'm sure.

The research is promising indeed though. It really is probably the best thing to do i agree. Most studies always mention to use in conjunction with meds but nonetheless that it was at the forefront of research.

Just needs more cunts to do it.


 No.373407

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>>373403

>Anyway i'll stop now.. I really hate talking about this and just annoying everyone with my problems.

I understand completely and I'm sorry. I'm being a busybody.

i need more mckenna webms


 No.373408

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howdy, time to migrate boys

>>373406

>>373406

>>373406

>>373406


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>>372790

i wish i could find fan girl torrent




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