/wrol/ - Without rule of law, or shtf.

>>67

I think with all those farms around I don't think those people will be starving as bad as the rest of the nation, and if some of them aren't retarded they can join us.

>>71

Is that an Island I see to the north of the dam? Perhaps we could at first have HQ there and move it to the dam once things settle down.

>>77

I actually think the National Guard would welcome any help they can get, I know a lot of them browse /k/. if it goes mega SHTF and US government is gone completely they would have no reason to push us away.

>>138

Setting up on a small island, surrounded by a flowing river, is not a good idea. We can easily be surrounded, and will have no way out.

I suggest setting up in the sorthwestern portion of the images, in those mountains.

>>80

This makes sense to me.

Why not focus on somewhere up in the Cascades? For example the area arpund Darrington backs up on wilderness so wont have people coming from that side, lots of water wihtout needing to keep a dam intact or operate an irrgation system etc. Biggest downside is the forest gets in the way of farmland though you have infinite firewood and building material.

>>155

>>156

This, the dam is next to 30,000 people AND next to a highway I doubt we would have that many rounds, not to mention how many could we get there at most would be around 5, now 5 even with all the ammo in the world would get reckt by 30K people.

Isolation and being hidden is a must.

>>165

Nice.

What are the coords so I can look up on google map?

>>155

For natural resources you have wood obviously and it looks like high quality lime stone: https://nwgeology.wordpress.com/the-fieldtrips/baker-river-limestone-and-the-town-of-concrete-washington/

Making a kiln to get cement from it would be possible if you really needed some.

mindat lists a few old galena mines in Skagit county so you could smelt your own lead for boolits if needed as well.

garnet deposits for use as abrasives are likely in that area too.

>>155

I love it

I would like to bring up a meeting location for the midwest area - We need one. I am checking maps in Colorado right now

>>205

Remember to post pictures

Classic firearms is selling crates of Mosin's for $180 each, with a minimum of 18 rifles per shipment.

That would be about $3,240 and we would have a good supply of rifles for any nofunz.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/mosin-nagant-rfile-by-the-crate

>>138

>I actually think the National Guard would welcome any help they can get, I know a lot of them browse /k/. if it goes mega SHTF and US government is gone completely they would have no reason to push us away.

Except, that is not how Continuity of Government works.

The US Government wouldn't just disappear. Since the Eisenhower Administration the US Government has dumped TRILLIONS into Continuity of Government (COG) on all levels. Once the flag goes up, all government offices will transfer to their hardened facilities, with essential personnel in tow.

The National Command Authority (POTUS, VPOTUS, SecDef, SecState) once nestled into their new abode, would declare a National Emergency and Martial Law, thus giving control of US infrastructure over to the Military.

In between the time of “the incident” and the NCA declaring a National Emergency, State Governors and Adjutant Generals would be mobilizing their Guard units and other assets (Law Enforcement, Emergency Services, Emergency Management, ect…) to predetermined staging/marshalling areas. Once the NCA declares a National Emergency/Martial Law, Combined Arms Guard units would secure whatever was deemed Strategic Infrastructure at the State or National level. This includes dams, locks, roadway, rail lines, petroleum reserves/storage, munitions plants/stockpiles, refineries, bridges, water reservoirs/aqueducts, food production facilities/warehouses, airports, ports, ect… as outlined in Presidential Directive

Currently, some 50,500 miles of rail and road fall into the Strategic Highway Network (STRAHNET) and Strategic Rail Corridor Network (STRACNET). These lengths would fall under the control of the Department of Defense and would be considered Strategic Infrastructure.

Within seventy-two hours, the XVIII Airborne Corps, various NORTHCOM assets, and others within the Rapid Deployment Force (battalions of the 75th Rangers and various Marine Expeditionary Units, within CONUS) would be deployed to Power Projection Platforms and Power Support Platforms around the country (Priority 1 installations), then deployed to bolster Guard units and secure additional facilities.

Initially, a structure like a dam would have a unit no smaller than a company deployed to secure it. Broken down, (lets say an Infantry Company) you're looking at three rifle platoons, a heavy weapons section, mortars section, ect… depending on the priority of the dam (or whatever the structure may be) an entire Brigade Combat Team could be deployed or at the very least have it with the Brigade Area-of-Operations, this allowing the company at the dam, not only their company -evel support, but battalion-level Fires, FACC/JTAC, Intelligence, ect…

Following right along with the “help them” theme.

The Guard isn't going to look at a group of 25-50 Cold War-era gear clad, Mosin griping innawoods dwellers as “help”. “Local Militia” is what you'd be labeled and depending on what intelligence has to say, and what orders have come down the line, could be considered hostile or at the very least a nuisance to unit operations. (The browsing of /k/ by the minuscule amount of Guardsman or any military members for that matter has no effect on policy, doctrine, or directives)

The most that'll happen, assuming intel (along with policy and directives) have determined you to be benign in terms of a threat, is they'll pump you for information regarding the local area (HUMINT), maybe toss some MREs at you, and tell you to keep out of the local AO.

If you're deemed hostile. You stand no chance, not even enough of one to form a cohesive thought about taking a defensive posture.

Now, this is assuming that whoever in the Chain-of-Command hasn't decided upon their on cognizance to disarm the civil populace by force beforehand. If that's the case, you're royally fucked. The only way around this is to keep out of the public eye at all times from the beginning, which is what you should be doing to begin with (OPSEC/PERSEC).

This is all assuming the “event” is something minute like an economic collapse or social breakdown, rather than a Scalar Weapon, Nuclear Conflict, or some other major catastrophe you can manage to not be burned, blinded, or killed by.

>>476

Fuck off stormfaggot.

I feel like for Washington we might want two meetup points, because of the obvious difficulties of passing through the cascades during SHTF. The passes can get blocked by snow during the winter, and without crews going through to clear them, they could stay blocked throughout winter.

I propose that we have both an East Washington Rally point and a West Washington Rally point, and then move to the final meetup point when the weather is favorable.

So the Concrete Cement Plant makes a pretty good East Washington rally point, but it is clear across the state from me and a couple other guys I know, what locations can we find for a West Washington rally point? I suggest something further south, as the Concrete rally point is in the north.

Apologies for reviving an old thread, but I deemed it more appropriate to update an old thread rather than create a whole new one.

>>476

What makes you think you're welcome here?

>>877

Concrete is west of the Cascades, /k/omrade. But I agree that the passes would be difficult in a wrol scenario, especially given a lack of communications with Streloks on the east side.

I am a canadafag from vancouver. if shit ever goes south in both countries at once, what will I have to do to team up with you lot? I already know it is a 30 hour hike from my current place to Conrete WA. I can get there.