/wrol/ - Without rule of law, or shtf.

Im going up to maine, actually the county next to the other strelok up there, and i want to go out camping. Its most likely going to be just me and one friend. I want to take a bag which would mock a bugout bag. If it works, then this bag will become my bugout bag.

Its a green 3-day assault pack, so it has plenty of room. Im going to bring a tent, a rifle each (PTR, SKS, AR-15, or M1 Garand), M1911 each, hand flares, glowsticks, paracord, that strong black tape, gloves, fire starting equipment, gun cleaning equipment, a deck of cards, spare glasses, and some sleeping pills. I dont know what else i should be putting into the bag.

What should go into a 3-day assault pack for camping/SHTF? I want it set up to be helpful camping for a few days, but i moreso want it to be capable of long-term survival, such as getting lost out there for a week or two.

>>297

While SHTF is an umbrella term, any situation under that umbrella is going to affect a few things universally.

1.) Banks. They won't open during/after a major disaster, during riots, during a financial crisis, during a conflict, ect… the same goes for ATMs, they'll be drained in a few hours and you're limited in what you can withdraw.

Not only will banks have to contend with issues unique to the SHTF situation, but banks are also run by people, people who aren't going to risk their lives and have issues of their own to deal with.

2.) Commercial businesses. When the SHTF, retailers, if they're open, will be SWAMPED. You'd have to be out of your mind to attempt going inside any retail location post-SHTF.

The same as banks, run by people who aren't going to take the risk and have lives of their own to worry about.

You need to have the essentials, NOW.

If the proverbial excrement has already hit the rotary air ventilation equipment, it will be far too late for Wal-mart. Everyone and their dog will be rushing to convenience stores, gas stations etc.

Scavenge from schools, jails, offices and so on. Get creative on where you find your supplies.

The best idea is of course to get all of your stuff before WROL, preparation is always the key to success.

>>297

First day of The Happening would be stampede day.

You need to have essentials always ready. That's what this board is about.

>>758

So what do we buy prior to it?

>>760

That is for you to decide. You need to determine your priorities.

Generally food, water, and defense are the top three.

1.) Non-perishable, long last food stuffs

2.) Water storage and a way to filter and purify water

3.) A weapon or weapons used to defend yourself

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>>761

Don't you fucking forget medical supplies. Antibiotics, antiseptics, bandaged, all first aid equipment. Getting shot means there's a 60% chance of dying. But you wont live long enough to get shot if you die from dehydration from diharrea or that tiny cut of your finger gets infected. Also hygiene is important. Tooth brush/paste, soap, and keeping facial hair and fingernails trimmed are the essentials.

>>775

Firstly, antibiotics can NOT be gotten over the counter, they must be prescribed to you. The other option is to utilize animal antibiotics, but that's a decision for the individual and not advised.

Secondly, you run-of-the-mill first aid kit isn't going to do anything for a GSW (Gun Shot Wound) or other major wounds, you need an IFAK (Individual/Improved First Aid Kit). An IFAK should have a hemostatic agent (cloting agent), chest seal, tourniquet, nasopharyngeal airway, decompression needle, combat/trauma bandage, ect…

Hygiene has importance, but not to the level most think.

You're not going to stop diharrea without an antidiarrhoeal , the only alternative is to drink water and utilize electrolyte sources to replace salts and fluids, if applicable.

Medical supplies is a SMALL portion of the pie, it's medical KNOWLEDGE, even basic knowledge, that is the important part of the equation.

>>779

>it's medical KNOWLEDGE, even basic knowledge, that is the important part of the equation

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>>785

ya got me, sorry

anyone have any opinions on the swiss 20L water bladders? they seem pretty good

>>802

Never used one, but seem decent to me, never had an a piece of Swiss surplus that wasn't up to snuff with it's NATO equivalent.

Just treat them before use. If they're just standard rubber, bleach should be fine.

I'm making a belt with a few SHTF essentials on it that I carry everywhere, just in case of a sudden societal collapse.

I just bought a personal first aid kit, which has most of the bits you need for basic first aid (bandages, dressings etc.), some saline solution plastic ampoules, a small CPR mask with a one way valve on it and some butterfly wound closers/steri-strips. Gonna put some paracetamol, ibuprofen and maybe some codeine in there if I've got any left laying about.

Anyone else know what else I can shove in there?

>>829

So far you've got a decent aid kit, look into IFAK (Individual/Improved First Aid Kit) to see if it's something you'd want to carry. You don't have to carry an IFAK purchased from a vendor, I put one together on my own, have field compression bandages, quikclot (hemostatic agent), eye patch, some wound treatment, as well as what you'd find in a standard aid kit.

Do you have any water filtration or treatment systems? Something like Lifestraw or treatment tablets?

Knives, not knife, but knives. Two is one, one is none.

A way to start a fire, something like a magnesium flint or a small, reusable lighter like a Zippo (but you do need to carry fuel for a lighter).

A flashlight, something with decent lumens, that has a decent battery life, and is water resistant.