/wrol/ - Without rule of law, or shtf.

Solar cooker seems easy enough to make if you live in a place with a lot of sunlight.

I personally live in an area with a lot of trees so I just thought I would go cut down some to start fires during WROL. You can heat rocks in a fire at one location, then move the rocks to a cooking pit, in which you bury your food and rocks.

This is an ancient method of cooking which takes a couple of hours, but the actual cooking doesn't take place with a lit fire (which produces light and smoke).

What more cool methods could be used for cooking/heating/pasteurizing?

>>734

I live in an apartment, so I'll be going outside as infrequently as possible if something happens before I move. I was thinking of getting a few car batteries and either a transformer/inverter of some sort, or maybe a piece of an RV kitchen that can run on 12V power.

If I lived in a rural area I'd definitely do what you're doing, the buried rocks method sounds like nature's slow cooker. In that scenario I'd love to set up some fish traps as well, and just do outdoor cooking during the day. It should be fairly safe as long as you're secluded enough and don't burn smoky wood.

Apartment prepping is tough though. I'm planning to buy a shitload of oats, rice, beans, and bouillon cubes to have a good stock of non-perishable foods that won't murder me with sodium. I think the safest way for me is to use an electric stove to boil water to cook in, it's quiet and doesn't carry smell or create smoke. If someone hungry smells cooking food, you can guarantee you'll have a problem to deal with.

Water is by far going to be the most difficult resource for me as it's hard to keep large quantities potable for a long time. It rains a lot where I live, but it's hard to think of a good way to collect it inconspicuously. Perhaps some way to redirect a gutter inside would work.

>>733

>>734

>>735

Stay away from automotive batteries, look for Marine or other batteries that are "deep cycle". Vehicle batteries are designed to provide a quick electrical jump to a system, where deep cycle are designed to be charged and run until depleted.

If you inspect the battery on an RV, you'll notice it's a deep cycle battery.

Become familiar with how to wire batteries in "series" or "parallel" to obtain your goal voltage or to create a bank.

Heating stones is a good method, but stone will cool quickly if uninsulated. Ash is what is often used to be used to insulate stones, as well as dirt.

A Dakota Fire Hole is a great way to build a fire and keep it hidden. You could make a semi-permanent Dakota Hole using steel pipe for the chimney and brick, clay, or other material to line the hole.

Stay away from green wood, it will smoke badly. Dried, seasoned wood is the best.

My advice when storing food goods is 5gal buckets, with Mylar bags, thrown in an O2 absorber, then sealed the Mylar using a hair straightener, use a Gamma Lid on the 5gal bucket. You can also use Caprisun packets for this, drink the contents, dry out the packets, fill with rice or oats (or whatever you want), O2 absorber, and seal with hair straighten. Makes a neat little meal packet.

You can use electric, but a clean burning fuel stove will net you the same outcome. This ensures you have a cooking source, even if electricity isn't available.

hose gutter hose to redirect to a bucket or drum, get something like a Berkey or Berkfeld filter, or some other charcoal based filter. Berkleys

Can we bring in animal husbandry into this thread?

You don't need too much space to house rabbits in your backyard. If you live in an apartment you can do it as a communal thing, get other people to help you.

Rabbits are excellent at converting their food into nutrients in their tissues, and they provide high quality manure and skins. They are also relatively easy to handle and reproduce incredibly fast.

Downside is that you gotta find their food for them, but they can eat wild herbs, grass, leaves etc (which humans can't eat).

Rabbit meat does need regular cooking, you can stew it, barbecue it etc, but the skins just need to dry outdoors and some salt, oil and astringent plants to do basic treatment.

>>736

I have a pretty good understanding of basic electronics, I'm hoping to use it on some basic projects to learn the practical skills like soldering (solar phone charger, guitar amp, etc.).

The Dakota fire hole looks great, if I get camping any time soon I'll definitely practice making one. What do you mean by seasoned wood? Is it something you do to it? or just wood that's been dry for a long time.

>>737

Sure. Rabbits would be a great thing to keep if I had space for them, I had never considered doing anything like that. My current setup is very regulated and very strict on space, so nothing that I can't do inside is going to be kosher unfortunately. Others browsing might find the information useful though.

When I was young my family had a few chickens, and I remember really liking the fresh eggs and enjoying playing with them as a child. Do you or anyone here have experience with chickens? How do they do compared to rabbits?

>>738

It's wood that has dried thoroughly. "Seasoned" is just a term for dried wood.

Normally, wood is split, piled into a full rick with the bark side up (three ricks is a cord), cover with a tarp and allowed to set for drying. Granted, most people aren't going to have the space or wood supply to have full cords or even a rick, but seasoning is best. It ensures a through burn, burns hotter and doesn't smoke heavily like green wood.

>>738

Do you have a balcony? A rabbit hutch doesn't take a lot of space, especially if you build it yourself to fit properly.

Check the conditions of your housing, what pet regulations they have. For feed you can just collect hay, herbs and leaves, along with purchased commercial feed. Might not produce a whole lot but in case of WROL you have the option of scaling up, and will be used to handling them.

Chickens are easier to keep outdoors in some ways. They forage by themselves and don't dig their way out of pens. Their poop is caustic though, burns vegetation which is directly exposed to it.

I found a really good book on this subject, The Art of Eating through the Zombie Apocalypse.

There is a torrent on i2p for it, so you can get it anonymously. It's filled with good ideas both for survival and for avoiding a flavourless post-apocalyptic existence. Recipies for everything from canned food to wild plants, strategic advice for wether to bug in or bug out etc.

Probably a good idea to buy a physical copy if you want to read it during WROL.

>>743

You get to explain to your gf that you're raising them for meat.

So Glhf convincing her to keep cute animals for the purpose of slaughtering them.

>>745

Another great source for this topic would be "Cowboy" cookbooks, which will be filled with some excellent information. Most of the recipes will be based on common everyday items like flour, butter, cheese, beans, veggies, ect… items you can acquire before SHTF or grow/make during SHTF.

Heck, something like hardtack with some bacon grease and beans is a tasty meal.

>>736

This. When I first started offgridding I used some kind of battery that advertized itself as being a hybrid of deep cycle/auto. You'll only get a few months out of them before they start losing life and becoming useless.

I'm currently using gel batteries like you'd see in an electric scooter or some shit, They hold a charge pretty well considering I only have 4 of them.